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We are not even getting Bauhaus architecture, expressionist cinema or a thriving counter-cultural cabaret scene by way of compensation for the larval stage fascism.SouthamObserver said:If you have read Travellers in the Third Reich you will know that there were very clear signs and strongly flashing red lights all along the road that Germany travelled between 1930 and 1939.
The UK is probably winter 1931 into 1932 at this stage.2 -
Good moaning!AlastairMeeks said:
It's more like Secret Army acted out by the cast of 'Allo 'Allo.Cyclefree said:"Collaborators".
"Traitors".
"The enemy."
I had an early night last night. Have I hugely overslept and we are now somewhere in France ca. 1940?
I bring you a massage: The Remoaners and Bruxiteurs are still arguing about whether the United Kongdom should loave the European Onion or nit.1 -
TGOHF said:
ST story falling apart by the minute
https://twitter.com/gibraltargov/status/1163020869192552448?s=21
The critical parts of that document are the last two paragraphs. They do not support the Leaver case that all will be wonderful and that there is nothing to worry about.
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Hey, I'm quite happy with just one!another_richard said:So ydoethur is half way towards his threesome
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Stokes has made this match safe for England. Can he give them a chance to win it?0
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Is that the selfsame backstop as proposed by the May Government? Are they the enemy too?Philip_Thompson said:
For as long as they insist upon the undemocratic backstop they absolutely are.rottenborough said:
The EU are not "our enemy".Philip_Thompson said:
I am.MaxPB said:
Just in case it's not obvious, I wasn't being serious.Philip_Thompson said:
The problem with Benedict Arnold isn't that he was called a traitor.MaxPB said:Operation Yellowhammer - written by the fifth columnist collaborators in the civil service. Time for a purge.
Collaborators and traitors need to be removed from office. Though if this was written as a worst case problem identifying exercise then that is sensible. The leaker though is a traitor.
I don't want violence but anyone who is working for the government and undermining their government while collaborators with our enemy in these negotiations is a traitor. They should be fired if they can't recuse themselves.0 -
Thank heaven for small mercies.Dura_Ace said:
We are not even getting Bauhaus architecture, expressionist cinema or a thriving counter-cultural cabaret scene by way of compensation for the larval stage fascism.SouthamObserver said:If you have read Travellers in the Third Reich you will know that there were very clear signs and strongly flashing red lights all along the road that Germany travelled between 1930 and 1939.
The UK is probably winter 1931 into 1932 at this stage.1 -
But think how disappointed the other one might beydoethur said:
Hey, I'm quite happy with just one!another_richard said:So ydoethur is half way towards his threesome
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Stokes does seem to have a high ratio of getting runs in a crisis to being a flat track bully.DavidL said:Stokes has made this match safe for England. Can he give them a chance to win it?
If there are any stats on that they would be very interesting.0 -
She won't be Robbied.another_richard said:
But think how disappointed the other one might beydoethur said:
Hey, I'm quite happy with just one!another_richard said:So ydoethur is half way towards his threesome
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My Gaulle was to lighten things up.Theuniondivvie said:0 -
Ah but he got 92 and put England in serious trouble. Stokes has once again batted England out of it. He has looked our best test batsman this summer. Very disciplined effort by Buttler too. With these 2 at the crease and Bairstow to come I would like to see a quick dash to another 50 (for the benefit of your love life, obviously) and then have a go at an Australia without Smith.ydoethur said:
Jofra Archer's ball to Steve Smith begs to differ.DavidL said:Stokes has made this match safe for England.
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I don’t think anyone has taken your post seriously tbf ...SouthamObserver said:
Given how completely you have misunderstood my post, I think you need the lie down, dear boy xTGOHF said:
Bit harsh and inappropriate to compare Merkel to Adolf. Think you need a lie down SO.SouthamObserver said:If you have read Travellers in the Third Reich you will know that there were very clear signs and strongly flashing red lights all along the road that Germany travelled between 1930 and 1939.
The UK is probably winter 1931 into 1932 at this stage.0 -
For what it’s worth, I take the ST (online, v.good value generally). Today’s edition has what feels like 50% of the articles/stories written by work experience students and/or are palpably filler. There’s an awful lot of, “will this do?” to the whole paper. Mid-August.0
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I don't follow cricket or the Archers, so I don't know what you are referring to.ydoethur said:Jofra Archer appears to have just won the Ashes for England.
Although probably (hopefully) not quite he way he intended...0 -
I think that's a bit harsh on Burns.DavidL said:Stokes has once again batted England out of it. He has looked our best test batsman this summer.
Why thank you! It's good to know everyone is so anxious to improve my sex life...it's as though you think my ability to play with an 8-foot horn once a week is insufficient.DavidL said:I would like to see a quick dash to another 50 (for the benefit of your love life, obviously) and then have a go at an Australia without Smith.
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TBF there’s a long history of idiot Brits seizing on Ulster to further their own political objectives (cf Randolph Churchill)TOPPING said:
I don't know what kind of a supposed Brit you think you are but what a staggeringly ignorant comment. And the bar can be pretty low on PB at times.Philip_Thompson said:
Yes absolutely. Because of the principles behind the Good Friday Agreement.OblitusSumMe said:
Really? The population of Northern Ireland support the backstop by nearly 3:2, but it's fine to ignore their wishes because 5 out of 6 people, who make up 2 out of 3 people in one part of NI are opposed?HYUFD said:
Its largest county, Antrim, is still 2/3 UnionistSunil_Prasannan said:
I'm glad you aren't involved in drawing up constituency boundaries.
The principle is one of compromise and consensus between the communities not one community forcing their will upon the other.
The Irish are standing firm behind the nationalist community and ignoring the unionists. So I have no qualms supporting the unionists and ignoring the nationalists. When the communities can come together we can have compromise.
That won't happen until the crisis comes to the fore. We need to trigger a crisis on the border or we won't have any compromise.0 -
The Tories are now the party of the hedge fund elite. Hedge funds thrive on chaos, instability and the difficulties these pose for solid businesses. No Deal will make a lot very rich people with strong links to many government ministers, including the PM, even richer.0
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Burns has started to look like a proper opener. Roy not so much.ydoethur said:
I think that's a bit harsh on Burns.DavidL said:Stokes has once again batted England out of it. He has looked our best test batsman this summer.
Why thank you! It's good to know everyone is so anxious to improve my sex life...it's as though you think my ability to play with an 8-foot horn once a week is insufficient.DavidL said:I would like to see a quick dash to another 50 (for the benefit of your love life, obviously) and then have a go at an Australia without Smith.
And can I gently suggest its better when someone else plays with it for you?0 -
You think that being in the EU guarantees goodwill?SouthamObserver said:
What the government of Gibraltar forgot to say is that all its plans are almpst entirely dependent on the goodwill of the Spanish government. Just as the UK will be entirely dependent on the goodwill of others after a No Deal Brexit. That is the reality of taking back control.TGOHF said:ST story falling apart by the minute
https://twitter.com/gibraltargov/status/1163020869192552448?s=21
Someone has a short or selective memory.0 -
About what are you talking?Floater said:
You think that being in the EU guarantees goodwill?SouthamObserver said:
What the government of Gibraltar forgot to say is that all its plans are almpst entirely dependent on the goodwill of the Spanish government. Just as the UK will be entirely dependent on the goodwill of others after a No Deal Brexit. That is the reality of taking back control.TGOHF said:ST story falling apart by the minute
https://twitter.com/gibraltargov/status/1163020869192552448?s=21
Someone has a short or selective memory.0 -
Being in the EU means not having to rely on goodwill.Floater said:
You think that being in the EU guarantees goodwill?SouthamObserver said:
What the government of Gibraltar forgot to say is that all its plans are almpst entirely dependent on the goodwill of the Spanish government. Just as the UK will be entirely dependent on the goodwill of others after a No Deal Brexit. That is the reality of taking back control.TGOHF said:ST story falling apart by the minute
https://twitter.com/gibraltargov/status/1163020869192552448?s=21
Someone has a short or selective memory.0 -
Or poorer.SouthamObserver said:The Tories are now the party of the hedge fund elite. Hedge funds thrive on chaos, instability and the difficulties these pose for solid businesses. No Deal will make a lot very rich people with strong links to many government ministers, including the PM, even richer.
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SsssshhhhhhhDavidL said:
Ah but he got 92 and put England in serious trouble. Stokes has once again batted England out of it. He has looked our best test batsman this summer. Very disciplined effort by Buttler too. With these 2 at the crease and Bairstow to come I would like to see a quick dash to another 50 (for the benefit of your love life, obviously) and then have a go at an Australia without Smith.ydoethur said:
Jofra Archer's ball to Steve Smith begs to differ.DavidL said:Stokes has made this match safe for England.
You just cannot help yourself, can you??
There are 60 or so overs left in the day and England have a propensity to collapse spectacularly. We need to be batting at tea to be confident of getting a draw. The Aussies will still fancy their chances, especially with an early wicket this session.
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Well, perhaps. That's a hard one to judge.DavidL said:
Burns has started to look like a proper opener. Roy not so much.ydoethur said:
I think that's a bit harsh on Burns.DavidL said:Stokes has once again batted England out of it. He has looked our best test batsman this summer.
Why thank you! It's good to know everyone is so anxious to improve my sex life...it's as though you think my ability to play with an 8-foot horn once a week is insufficient.DavidL said:I would like to see a quick dash to another 50 (for the benefit of your love life, obviously) and then have a go at an Australia without Smith.
And can I gently suggest its better when someone else plays with it for you?0 -
Buttler will be out immediately after lunch, as you and I both know.SouthamObserver said:
SsssshhhhhhhDavidL said:
Ah but he got 92 and put England in serious trouble. Stokes has once again batted England out of it. He has looked our best test batsman this summer. Very disciplined effort by Buttler too. With these 2 at the crease and Bairstow to come I would like to see a quick dash to another 50 (for the benefit of your love life, obviously) and then have a go at an Australia without Smith.ydoethur said:
Jofra Archer's ball to Steve Smith begs to differ.DavidL said:Stokes has made this match safe for England.
You just cannot help yourself, can you??
There are 60 or so overs left in the day and England have a propensity to collapse spectacularly. We need to be batting at tea to be confident of getting a draw. The Aussies will still fancy their chances, especially with an early wicket this session.
But England all out for 200 might not be a bad thing.0 -
It means there is legal recourse in the absence of goodwill.Floater said:
You think that being in the EU guarantees goodwill?SouthamObserver said:
What the government of Gibraltar forgot to say is that all its plans are almpst entirely dependent on the goodwill of the Spanish government. Just as the UK will be entirely dependent on the goodwill of others after a No Deal Brexit. That is the reality of taking back control.TGOHF said:ST story falling apart by the minute
https://twitter.com/gibraltargov/status/1163020869192552448?s=21
Someone has a short or selective memory.
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Looks like England might get 200.0
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Just in case there was anyone left taking my comments on Brexit seriously I should reveal, in the interests of full disclosure, that I bought kebabs for a BBQ yesterday. The rain is once again torrential.
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Is it the 50% you disagree with?matt said:For what it’s worth, I take the ST (online, v.good value generally). Today’s edition has what feels like 50% of the articles/stories written by work experience students and/or are palpably filler. There’s an awful lot of, “will this do?” to the whole paper. Mid-August.
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It's your cricket comments we're worried about.DavidL said:Just in case there was anyone left taking my comments on Brexit seriously I should reveal, in the interests of full disclosure, that I bought kebabs for a BBQ yesterday. The rain is once again torrential.
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I thought the jury was in on that. Harsh but fair I thought.ydoethur said:
It's your cricket comments we're worried about.DavidL said:Just in case there was anyone left taking my comments on Brexit seriously I should reveal, in the interests of full disclosure, that I bought kebabs for a BBQ yesterday. The rain is once again torrential.
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You lost us the Edgbaston Test (you and seven so-called batsmen). It nearly earned yunperpetual banishment to ConHome.DavidL said:
I thought the jury was in on that. Harsh but fair I thought.ydoethur said:
It's your cricket comments we're worried about.DavidL said:Just in case there was anyone left taking my comments on Brexit seriously I should reveal, in the interests of full disclosure, that I bought kebabs for a BBQ yesterday. The rain is once again torrential.
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Not sure how I did that. I don't think I was even on during the sad collapse. It was a busy day.ydoethur said:
You lost us the Edgbaston Test (you and seven so-called batsmen). It nearly earned yunperpetual banishment to ConHome.DavidL said:
I thought the jury was in on that. Harsh but fair I thought.ydoethur said:
It's your cricket comments we're worried about.DavidL said:Just in case there was anyone left taking my comments on Brexit seriously I should reveal, in the interests of full disclosure, that I bought kebabs for a BBQ yesterday. The rain is once again torrential.
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Cricket =ydoethur said:
You lost us the Edgbaston Test (you and seven so-called batsmen). It nearly earned yunperpetual banishment to ConHome.DavidL said:
I thought the jury was in on that. Harsh but fair I thought.ydoethur said:
It's your cricket comments we're worried about.DavidL said:Just in case there was anyone left taking my comments on Brexit seriously I should reveal, in the interests of full disclosure, that I bought kebabs for a BBQ yesterday. The rain is once again torrential.
#justsaying
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The cricket comments here seem to lurch from the most incredulous pessimism through to some absolutely vile stuff re Smith's concussion. Weve got a good chance to win today precisely because our batting isn't top notch. Australia need quick wickets to give us a chance though. Listen to @AndyJS0
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Smith did some bad things and for my mind his punishment was too short. But that is history and, ignoring the basic fact that we don't want people to get hurt, he showed some great courage in the first innings and will have won over a lot of those fans who were booing him. He deserves plaudits for his performance even if we wish it were not so good against usPulpstar said:The cricket comments here seem to lurch from the most incredulous pessimism through to some absolutely vile stuff re Smith's concussion. Weve got a good chance to win today precisely because our batting isn't top notch. Australia need quick wickets to give us a chance though. Listen to @AndyJS
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