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Terrible and incredible scenes in N Yorks the other day.OldKingCole said:A dam has collapsed on the River Goyt in Derbyshire and the town of Whalley Bridge is being evacuated.
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Mr. Borough, missed most of the footage but I did hear a month's worth of rain (day before yesterday) fell in 4 hours.0
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Interesting that support for a No Deal in the IPSOS-Mori is 38%, which is less than the combined Tory/BXP score. 50% are opposed and 54% believe it will adversely affect them.
Despite that 10 point Tory lead I think it is way to soon to be calling any pre-Brexit election for Johnson. His lead looks very vulnerable to me.0 -
He's almost the same age as Roger Federer and Serena Williams.FrancisUrquhart said:Time to move on from Anderson now I feel. He is just too liable to break down.
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A Yorkshireman paid for a round?rottenborough said:
Terrible and incredible scenes in N Yorks the other day.OldKingCole said:A dam has collapsed on the River Goyt in Derbyshire and the town of Whalley Bridge is being evacuated.
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Any ETA for the by-election result?0
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"Birthrate in England and Wales at lowest since records began"
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/birth-rate-in-england-and-wales-at-lowest-since-records-began-fw06v59pb0 -
Where Apple leads everyone else follows
Samsung Expected to Remove Headphone Jack from Galaxy Note 10 as Seen in New Dongle Leak
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/08/01/samsung-headphone-jack-dongle/0 -
Looking at the scope of the evacuation I am guessing this is either a smallish reservoir or they are not anticipating a major collapse, otherwise they would be evacuating further downstream rather than just Whalley Bridge. The Sheffield Wikipedia page suggests that a large breach into a substantial downstream river had a destructive range of about 5 miles or so and I think that was similar for the other Victorian dam collapse above Holmfirth.JosiasJessop said:
Not fully collapsed yet, but looks serious:OldKingCole said:A dam has collapsed on the River Goyt in Derbyshire and the town of Whalley Bridge is being evacuated.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-49189955
As folks from Sheffield know well, when a dam goes it can be catastrophic:
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Mr. JS, sounds like a fucking crisis.0
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Declaration was at 2:37am in 2017 and 2:53am in 2015. It's a night count again this time. The last time they started counting the next day was in 1997.Morris_Dancer said:Any ETA for the by-election result?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19pjmPA5bAYievt7plp9SOKce4EbXBeamLmww2Ba2GCA/edit#gid=01 -
I had tickets for Day 5, and a house 400m from the ground. I was willing England to win but wanted it to stretch into the final day :-(tlg86 said:
Fun fact. That test match at Trent Bridge was the only one in which an Australian team featuring Shane Warne was forced to follow-on (and Vaughan enforced it without knowing the extent of the injury to Jones).Fenster said:
YEP! I remember he looked superb with the bat that day. Really in good nick, then Marto ran him out. The famous sub fielded GARY PRATT!Sandpit said:
Are we thinking of the same Ponting?Fenster said:
He's ranked second highest on the all time batting ratings.DavidL said:Smith continues to make a game of it with almost no support. He really is a class act although you have to take the rough with the smooth, I suppose.
1. The Don 961
2. Smith 947
3. Hutton 945
4. Ponting 942
5. Jack Hobbs 942
Ponting was the best I ever saw, between Ashes 2005 and summer of 2008. His batting, in all formats, was just unreal. He made back to back centuries in his 100th test (against SA) with his eyes closed. It was the way he did it too, batting under big pressure after the Proteas made a big first innings score. Won the game too, one of his 108 Test wins. Another unreal stat.
(Why Gary Pratt will always be a great pub quiz question answer).
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TxiSWKYjc20
It all could've been so different
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Burnham (Greater Manchester) and Rotheram (Greater Liverpool) have won the trigger ballot to be reselected as Labour candidates for next mayoral elections0
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Babylon worked well for me, I must admit.Scott_P said:0 -
3 am was best guess from a local councillor I spoke to when visitingMorris_Dancer said:Any ETA for the by-election result?
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It can go either way to be fairSouthamObserver said:Interesting that support for a No Deal in the IPSOS-Mori is 38%, which is less than the combined Tory/BXP score. 50% are opposed and 54% believe it will adversely affect them.
Despite that 10 point Tory lead I think it is way to soon to be calling any pre-Brexit election for Johnson. His lead looks very vulnerable to me.0 -
Good news. Presumably the loonies on the Left are crying their eyes out?AndreaParma_82 said:Burnham (Greater Manchester) and Rotheram (Greater Liverpool) have won the trigger ballot to be reselected as Labour candidates for next mayoral elections
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The current Toddbrook reservoir apparently holds 300,000,000 gallons, but the old Dale Dyke Reservoir that failed held 114,000,000 cubic feet of water, or 691,000,000 gallons (but afaicr wasn't full when it collapsed). So it's about half the size.Pro_Rata said:
Looking at the scope of the evacuation I am guessing this is either a smallish reservoir or they are not anticipating a major collapse, otherwise they would be evacuating further downstream rather than just Whalley Bridge. The Sheffield Wikipedia page suggests that a large breach into a substantial downstream river had a destructive range of about 5 miles or so and I think that was similar for the other Victorian dam collapse above Holmfirth.JosiasJessop said:
Not fully collapsed yet, but looks serious:OldKingCole said:A dam has collapsed on the River Goyt in Derbyshire and the town of Whalley Bridge is being evacuated.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-49189955
As folks from Sheffield know well, when a dam goes it can be catastrophic:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Sheffield_Flood
Wiki indicates that work was done a while back to aid problems caused by old mineshats adjacent to the dam at Todbrook. Any betting that the old shafts are a contributory factor to this mess?0 -
Apple are an evil company. It's a shame that everyone else has to jump into the cesspit with them.TheScreamingEagles said:Where Apple leads everyone else follows
Samsung Expected to Remove Headphone Jack from Galaxy Note 10 as Seen in New Dongle Leak
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/08/01/samsung-headphone-jack-dongle/
(And as I doubt the dongles will be compatible, it's an utterly anti-consumer move as people will need to carry about different dongles. 3.5mm jacks work perfectly well.)0 -
Raining again at Edgbaston.0
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Mr. Jessop, does remind me of school seating plans, where good kids are sat beside bad kids to be a positive influence. That worked well.
Likewise videogame companies, mostly in a race to see who can have the scummiest microtransactions.
(CDPR do seem to be bucking the trend, though, and I like the look of Obsidian's The Outer Worlds).0 -
How on earth can you claim that Apple are an evil company? They are far more ethical than the likes of Facebook, Microsoft and Google and invest a hell of a lot of money into accessibility features.JosiasJessop said:
Apple are an evil company. It's a shame that everyone else has to jump into the cesspit with them.TheScreamingEagles said:Where Apple leads everyone else follows
Samsung Expected to Remove Headphone Jack from Galaxy Note 10 as Seen in New Dongle Leak
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/08/01/samsung-headphone-jack-dongle/
(And as I doubt the dongles will be compatible, it's an utterly anti-consumer move as people will need to carry about different dongles. 3.5mm jacks work perfectly well.)0 -
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Sony dropped it from their new phone alreadyTheScreamingEagles said:Where Apple leads everyone else follows
Samsung Expected to Remove Headphone Jack from Galaxy Note 10 as Seen in New Dongle Leak
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/08/01/samsung-headphone-jack-dongle/0 -
At least Apple are clear that they sell hardware and software. You are their customer.Gallowgate said:
How on earth can you claim that Apple are an evil company? They are far more ethical than the likes of Facebook, Microsoft and Google and invest a hell of a lot of money into accessibility features.JosiasJessop said:
Apple are an evil company. It's a shame that everyone else has to jump into the cesspit with them.TheScreamingEagles said:Where Apple leads everyone else follows
Samsung Expected to Remove Headphone Jack from Galaxy Note 10 as Seen in New Dongle Leak
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/08/01/samsung-headphone-jack-dongle/
(And as I doubt the dongles will be compatible, it's an utterly anti-consumer move as people will need to carry about different dongles. 3.5mm jacks work perfectly well.)
With Google and Facebook, they primarily sell data to advertisers and marketers. You are their product.0 -
By knowing how they work in the industry. I'm not defending the likes of MS, Facebook and Google (although MS does a lot of good stuff), but the Apple fanbois really should dig a little deeper.Gallowgate said:
How on earth can you claim that Apple are an evil company? They are far more ethical than the likes of Facebook, Microsoft and Google and invest a hell of a lot of money into accessibility features.JosiasJessop said:
Apple are an evil company. It's a shame that everyone else has to jump into the cesspit with them.TheScreamingEagles said:Where Apple leads everyone else follows
Samsung Expected to Remove Headphone Jack from Galaxy Note 10 as Seen in New Dongle Leak
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/08/01/samsung-headphone-jack-dongle/
(And as I doubt the dongles will be compatible, it's an utterly anti-consumer move as people will need to carry about different dongles. 3.5mm jacks work perfectly well.)
They are not 'ethical' at a business level.0 -
And neither is any company really?JosiasJessop said:
By knowing how they work in the industry. I'm not defending the likes of MS, Facebook and Google (although MS does a lot of good stuff), but the Apple fanbois really should dig a little deeper.Gallowgate said:
How on earth can you claim that Apple are an evil company? They are far more ethical than the likes of Facebook, Microsoft and Google and invest a hell of a lot of money into accessibility features.JosiasJessop said:
Apple are an evil company. It's a shame that everyone else has to jump into the cesspit with them.TheScreamingEagles said:Where Apple leads everyone else follows
Samsung Expected to Remove Headphone Jack from Galaxy Note 10 as Seen in New Dongle Leak
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/08/01/samsung-headphone-jack-dongle/
(And as I doubt the dongles will be compatible, it's an utterly anti-consumer move as people will need to carry about different dongles. 3.5mm jacks work perfectly well.)
They are not 'ethical' at a business level.0 -
Convicts looking good for 300...0
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It was just before 3am at the last two general elections.IanB2 said:
3 am was best guess from a local councillor I spoke to when visitingMorris_Dancer said:Any ETA for the by-election result?
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Rotheram is a sort of Corbynite. But some left dominated CLPs like Liverpool Riverside voted to trigger him out of a "let's have an open selection everywhere" idea.rottenborough said:
Good news. Presumably the loonies on the Left are crying their eyes out?AndreaParma_82 said:Burnham (Greater Manchester) and Rotheram (Greater Liverpool) have won the trigger ballot to be reselected as Labour candidates for next mayoral elections
It would have been funny if the first to be trigger had been a Corbynite.
Edit: ok, I always forget about them. 2 Police and Crime Commissioners have already been triggered.0 -
No, Apple takes it a stage or two beyond what is acceptable IMO.Gallowgate said:
And neither is any company really?JosiasJessop said:
By knowing how they work in the industry. I'm not defending the likes of MS, Facebook and Google (although MS does a lot of good stuff), but the Apple fanbois really should dig a little deeper.Gallowgate said:
How on earth can you claim that Apple are an evil company? They are far more ethical than the likes of Facebook, Microsoft and Google and invest a hell of a lot of money into accessibility features.JosiasJessop said:
Apple are an evil company. It's a shame that everyone else has to jump into the cesspit with them.TheScreamingEagles said:Where Apple leads everyone else follows
Samsung Expected to Remove Headphone Jack from Galaxy Note 10 as Seen in New Dongle Leak
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/08/01/samsung-headphone-jack-dongle/
(And as I doubt the dongles will be compatible, it's an utterly anti-consumer move as people will need to carry about different dongles. 3.5mm jacks work perfectly well.)
They are not 'ethical' at a business level.
Going away from business practices, their attitude towards standards is sh*t. And I love standards.0 -
Off-topic;
If you want bad timing, a hiking acquaintance of mine has been sidelined by ill-health for a year. He got the all-clear last month, and chose this week for his first back-to-health backpack. In the Peak District ...0 -
Implying their views were changed by the visit? Probably not....williamglenn said:0 -
I love standards too. What standards are you referring to?JosiasJessop said:
No, Apple takes it a stage or two beyond what is acceptable IMO.Gallowgate said:
And neither is any company really?JosiasJessop said:
By knowing how they work in the industry. I'm not defending the likes of MS, Facebook and Google (although MS does a lot of good stuff), but the Apple fanbois really should dig a little deeper.Gallowgate said:
How on earth can you claim that Apple are an evil company? They are far more ethical than the likes of Facebook, Microsoft and Google and invest a hell of a lot of money into accessibility features.JosiasJessop said:
Apple are an evil company. It's a shame that everyone else has to jump into the cesspit with them.TheScreamingEagles said:Where Apple leads everyone else follows
Samsung Expected to Remove Headphone Jack from Galaxy Note 10 as Seen in New Dongle Leak
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/08/01/samsung-headphone-jack-dongle/
(And as I doubt the dongles will be compatible, it's an utterly anti-consumer move as people will need to carry about different dongles. 3.5mm jacks work perfectly well.)
They are not 'ethical' at a business level.
Going away from business practices, their attitude towards standards is sh*t. And I love standards.0 -
So where is Boris? During Brown's honeymoon (between his accession to the throne, and the bottled election) he was forever being photographed up to the top of his wellies in a torrent of water, and getting praise from all quarters for giving good flood. Is Johnson more keen to follow in May's footsteps and react too little and too late as she did with Grenfell?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Borough, missed most of the footage but I did hear a month's worth of rain (day before yesterday) fell in 4 hours.
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Defending the Cayman Islands' status publicly is rather different than more passive support.RobD said:
Implying their views were changed by the visit? Probably not....williamglenn said:
Arguably, it's a poor use of he Cayman Islands Government's money if their £17k didn't mean they gained vocal support from these two.0 -
Cricket Fans: New Thread
Everyone else: As You Were0 -
England slowly screwing this up, letting 60 go for the 9th wicket.0
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Looks like the Tories' efforts to discourage the lower orders from breeding is bearing fruit.AndyJS said:"Birthrate in England and Wales at lowest since records began"
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/birth-rate-in-england-and-wales-at-lowest-since-records-began-fw06v59pb0 -
Looks like i was being optimistic about england batting for an hour this evening...0
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Plans for a 3800km (!) Australia to Singapore power cable:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jul/14/just-a-matter-of-when-the-20bn-plan-to-power-singapore-with-australian-solar1 -
Gotta cut carbon emissions somehow.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Looks like the Tories' efforts to discourage the lower orders from breeding is bearing fruit.AndyJS said:"Birthrate in England and Wales at lowest since records began"
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/birth-rate-in-england-and-wales-at-lowest-since-records-began-fw06v59pb0 -
If he convinces Brussels that he is mad enough to do it, then it will be job done.RobD said:
Is he mad enough to do it? Suspect they'll be wondering the same thing in Brussels.Scott_P said:
I wrote earlier this year that we needed to appear mad to Brussels. That what we needed was not just to act hard, but to act full on Vinnie Jones levels of "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" stark raving bonkers to the Europeans.
Being "diplomatic" won't work.
From the movie Eurotrip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyFwViOiAqY0 -
They'll just wait for us to come to our senses, at which time our bargaining position will be even weaker than it currently is.Philip_Thompson said:
If he convinces Brussels that he is mad enough to do it, then it will be job done.RobD said:
Is he mad enough to do it? Suspect they'll be wondering the same thing in Brussels.Scott_P said:
I wrote earlier this year that we needed to appear mad to Brussels. That what we needed was not just to act hard, but to act full on Vinnie Jones levels of "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" stark raving bonkers to the Europeans.
Being "diplomatic" won't work.0 -
If the UK is determined to go for No Deal, it is not in the EU’s interests to try to stop it. You can’t appease madmen drunk on nationalism.Philip_Thompson said:
If he convinces Brussels that he is mad enough to do it, then it will be job done.RobD said:
Is he mad enough to do it? Suspect they'll be wondering the same thing in Brussels.Scott_P said:
I wrote earlier this year that we needed to appear mad to Brussels. That what we needed was not just to act hard, but to act full on Vinnie Jones levels of "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" stark raving bonkers to the Europeans.
Being "diplomatic" won't work.
From the movie Eurotrip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyFwViOiAqY1 -
Said I'd seen Siddle batting well. He's after all part of the reason Essex are top of the County Championship, and not just for his bowling.FrancisUrquhart said:Looks like i was being optimistic about england batting for an hour this evening...
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Except we have no need to come to our senses. We can cope either way, even HM Treasuries pessimistic forecasts show we'll be better off in a future no deal scenario than we are now, what will be foregone is some growth. The longer we get past the event horizon of a no deal Brexit the less disruptive it will be to us too.Richard_Nabavi said:
They'll just wait for us to come to our senses, at which time our bargaining position will be even weaker than it currently is.Philip_Thompson said:
If he convinces Brussels that he is mad enough to do it, then it will be job done.RobD said:
Is he mad enough to do it? Suspect they'll be wondering the same thing in Brussels.Scott_P said:
I wrote earlier this year that we needed to appear mad to Brussels. That what we needed was not just to act hard, but to act full on Vinnie Jones levels of "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" stark raving bonkers to the Europeans.
Being "diplomatic" won't work.
Their position of maximum strength is now when people are worried. Once we've gotten over any disruption they'll be weaker than now.2 -
It would actually help the EU if we crash out in chaos.williamglenn said:If the UK is determined to go for No Deal, it is not in the EU’s interests to try to stop it. You can’t appease madmen drunk on nationalism.
What better advert for Union could there be?1 -
It will come down to politics. Will there be a blowback for Merkel and Macron in their own countries if they don't blink and stop No Deal? I think not, and so they will not cave.williamglenn said:
If the UK is determined to go for No Deal, it is not in the EU’s interests to try to stop it. You can’t appease madmen drunk on nationalism.Philip_Thompson said:
If he convinces Brussels that he is mad enough to do it, then it will be job done.RobD said:
Is he mad enough to do it? Suspect they'll be wondering the same thing in Brussels.Scott_P said:
I wrote earlier this year that we needed to appear mad to Brussels. That what we needed was not just to act hard, but to act full on Vinnie Jones levels of "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" stark raving bonkers to the Europeans.
Being "diplomatic" won't work.
From the movie Eurotrip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyFwViOiAqY
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If the Tories win Brecon & Radnor the pressure on Johnson to hold a snap election could become irresistible.0
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That is what Kieren Pedley thinks in this good news/bad news thread.SouthamObserver said:Interesting that support for a No Deal in the IPSOS-Mori is 38%, which is less than the combined Tory/BXP score. 50% are opposed and 54% believe it will adversely affect them.
Despite that 10 point Tory lead I think it is way to soon to be calling any pre-Brexit election for Johnson. His lead looks very vulnerable to me.
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Absurd.Philip_Thompson said:
If he convinces Brussels that he is mad enough to do it, then it will be job done.RobD said:
Is he mad enough to do it? Suspect they'll be wondering the same thing in Brussels.Scott_P said:
I wrote earlier this year that we needed to appear mad to Brussels. That what we needed was not just to act hard, but to act full on Vinnie Jones levels of "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" stark raving bonkers to the Europeans.
Being "diplomatic" won't work.
From the movie Eurotrip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyFwViOiAqY0 -
The EU's best bet is to let us get blind drunk on the beer and cider of full nationalism, then wait until, after the inevitable hangover of almost national bankruptcy, we come back inside again.williamglenn said:
If the UK is determined to go for No Deal, it is not in the EU’s interests to try to stop it. You can’t appease madmen drunk on nationalism.Philip_Thompson said:
If he convinces Brussels that he is mad enough to do it, then it will be job done.RobD said:
Is he mad enough to do it? Suspect they'll be wondering the same thing in Brussels.Scott_P said:
I wrote earlier this year that we needed to appear mad to Brussels. That what we needed was not just to act hard, but to act full on Vinnie Jones levels of "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" stark raving bonkers to the Europeans.
Being "diplomatic" won't work.
From the movie Eurotrip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyFwViOiAqY0 -
The only thing that might make them blink is that a massive recession in UK just as the EU hits a recession is going to possibly break the euro.OldKingCole said:
The EU's best bet is to let us get blind drunk on the beer and cider of full nationalism, then wait until, after the inevitable hangover of almost national bankruptcy, we come back inside again.williamglenn said:
If the UK is determined to go for No Deal, it is not in the EU’s interests to try to stop it. You can’t appease madmen drunk on nationalism.Philip_Thompson said:
If he convinces Brussels that he is mad enough to do it, then it will be job done.RobD said:
Is he mad enough to do it? Suspect they'll be wondering the same thing in Brussels.Scott_P said:
I wrote earlier this year that we needed to appear mad to Brussels. That what we needed was not just to act hard, but to act full on Vinnie Jones levels of "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" stark raving bonkers to the Europeans.
Being "diplomatic" won't work.
From the movie Eurotrip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyFwViOiAqY0 -
Yeah yeah.Philip_Thompson said:Except we have no need to come to our senses. We can cope either way, even HM Treasuries pessimistic forecasts show we'll be better off in a future no deal scenario than we are now, what will be foregone is some growth. The longer we get past the event horizon of a no deal Brexit the less disruptive it will be to us too.
Their position of maximum strength is now when people are worried. Once we've gotten over any disruption they'll be weaker than now.
Even if your fantasy was correct, there is the little problemette that they know perfectly well that Boris hasn't got a majority, so what on earth would be the point of doing a deal with him, at the cost of losing political face, destroying their unity, and appearing to abandon an EU member state, even if they wanted to?
Not to mention the fact that Boris has put himself in a straitjacket and thrown away the key, with a deadline which would be impossible to meet even if there were no other issues.0 -
Common EPS for a start (and loads of others). This is why, when we go away, we need to take chargers (ahem, dongle) just for any Apple devices.Gallowgate said:
I love standards too. What standards are you referring to?JosiasJessop said:
No, Apple takes it a stage or two beyond what is acceptable IMO.Gallowgate said:
And neither is any company really?JosiasJessop said:
By knowing how they work in the industry. I'm not defending the likes of MS, Facebook and Google (although MS does a lot of good stuff), but the Apple fanbois really should dig a little deeper.Gallowgate said:
How on earth can you claim that Apple are an evil company? They are far more ethical than the likes of Facebook, Microsoft and Google and invest a hell of a lot of money into accessibility features.JosiasJessop said:
Apple are an evil company. It's a shame that everyone else has to jump into the cesspit with them.TheScreamingEagles said:Where Apple leads everyone else follows
Samsung Expected to Remove Headphone Jack from Galaxy Note 10 as Seen in New Dongle Leak
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/08/01/samsung-headphone-jack-dongle/
(And as I doubt the dongles will be compatible, it's an utterly anti-consumer move as people will need to carry about different dongles. 3.5mm jacks work perfectly well.)
They are not 'ethical' at a business level.
Going away from business practices, their attitude towards standards is sh*t. And I love standards.
You may also want to look at the licensing conditions for any of *their* standards. Open and free they are not.0 -
What could be a potential EU wedge between Johnson and the DUP?Richard_Nabavi said:
Yeah yeah.Philip_Thompson said:Except we have no need to come to our senses. We can cope either way, even HM Treasuries pessimistic forecasts show we'll be better off in a future no deal scenario than we are now, what will be foregone is some growth. The longer we get past the event horizon of a no deal Brexit the less disruptive it will be to us too.
Their position of maximum strength is now when people are worried. Once we've gotten over any disruption they'll be weaker than now.
Even if your fantasy was correct, there is the little problemette that they know perfectly well that Boris hasn't got a majority, so what on earth would be the point of doing a deal with him, at the cost of losing political face, destroying their unity, and appearing to abandon an EU member state, even if they wanted to?
Not to mention the fact that Boris has put himself in a straitjacket and thrown away the key, with a deadline which would be impossible to meet even if there were no other issues.0 -
I notice the Tories have put a "how many days do we have left in office" clock up in No10Richard_Nabavi said:Not to mention the fact that Boris has put himself in a straitjacket and thrown away the key, with a deadline which would be impossible to meet even if there were no other issues.
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In Test news, I've never really rated Denly as a bowler. So he'll probably achieve the breakthrough.0
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He was still playing for Durham last season. He lives in my village, and is often out running. Does loads for local cricket too.rcs1000 said:
Nor does Paul CollingwoodFrancisUrquhart said:
Simon Jones doesn't appear to have aged at all.tlg86 said:Some of the 05 team looking better than others...
twitter.com/WisdenCricket/status/11569102089853050880 -
The BBC (like others) has fact-checked Dominic Raab's latest pack of lies:
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You cannot negotiate with nutters, you just contain them. That is why the EU will stick by Ireland. Those German car makers are not interested in bailing out Boris.Philip_Thompson said:
If he convinces Brussels that he is mad enough to do it, then it will be job done.RobD said:
Is he mad enough to do it? Suspect they'll be wondering the same thing in Brussels.Scott_P said:
I wrote earlier this year that we needed to appear mad to Brussels. That what we needed was not just to act hard, but to act full on Vinnie Jones levels of "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" stark raving bonkers to the Europeans.
Being "diplomatic" won't work.
From the movie Eurotrip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyFwViOiAqY0 -
They are a bunch of chancers, they will all have accounts there for sure.RobD said:
Implying their views were changed by the visit? Probably not....williamglenn said:0 -
Keith Fletcher doesn't play any more but still comes and watches Essex II's. Always has a group of young men around him listening to him.dixiedean said:
He was still playing for Durham last season. He lives in my village, and is often out running. Does loads for local cricket too.rcs1000 said:
Nor does Paul CollingwoodFrancisUrquhart said:
Simon Jones doesn't appear to have aged at all.tlg86 said:Some of the 05 team looking better than others...
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38% is even more than the 34% the Tories are polling on the headline pollTheScreamingEagles said:Well well well
If a deal between the UK and EU cannot be reached:
38% support leaving the European Union without a deal, whereas 50% oppose. 67% of Conservative voters support this outcome but 74% of Labour voters oppose.
50% support delaying the UK leaving until an agreement can be reached, 37% oppose. 62% of Conservatives oppose this outcome and 75% of Labour voters support it.
56% support a General Election to elect a new parliament, 29% oppose. 87% of Labour voters and 71% of Lib Dems support this outcome but a majority of Conservatives (55%) oppose.0 -
I see posters are arguing over labour at a range of 24% to 26% in the polls
Even discussing labour in this range is surreal and illustrates Corbyn's corrosive effect on the labour party1 -
Also tonight, two local by-elections, one in Cambridgeshire and one in Stockport, both LibDem defences that look safe.0
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Yeah you are aware it's not a Hollywood film.Philip_Thompson said:
If he convinces Brussels that he is mad enough to do it, then it will be job done.RobD said:
Is he mad enough to do it? Suspect they'll be wondering the same thing in Brussels.Scott_P said:
I wrote earlier this year that we needed to appear mad to Brussels. That what we needed was not just to act hard, but to act full on Vinnie Jones levels of "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" stark raving bonkers to the Europeans.
Being "diplomatic" won't work.0 -
Mori also has even LD voters preferring Boris to Corbyn as PM by 42% to 21%
https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/public-see-johnson-most-capable-pm-vs-corbyn-ipsos-mori-political-monitor-july-20190 -
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https://twitter.com/keiranpedley/status/1156890529675776000?s=20Foxy said:
That is what Kieren Pedley thinks in this good news/bad news thread.SouthamObserver said:Interesting that support for a No Deal in the IPSOS-Mori is 38%, which is less than the combined Tory/BXP score. 50% are opposed and 54% believe it will adversely affect them.
Despite that 10 point Tory lead I think it is way to soon to be calling any pre-Brexit election for Johnson. His lead looks very vulnerable to me.
https://twitter.com/keiranpedley/status/1156890526999863296?s=19
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You're an economist by training. Tell us about the time value of money. How much is a dollar today Vs a dollar tomorrow worth?Philip_Thompson said:
Except we have no need to come to our senses. We can cope either way, even HM Treasuries pessimistic forecasts show we'll be better off in a future no deal scenario than we are now, what will be foregone is some growth. The longer we get past the event horizon of a no deal Brexit the less disruptive it will be to us too.Richard_Nabavi said:
They'll just wait for us to come to our senses, at which time our bargaining position will be even weaker than it currently is.Philip_Thompson said:
If he convinces Brussels that he is mad enough to do it, then it will be job done.RobD said:
Is he mad enough to do it? Suspect they'll be wondering the same thing in Brussels.Scott_P said:
I wrote earlier this year that we needed to appear mad to Brussels. That what we needed was not just to act hard, but to act full on Vinnie Jones levels of "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" stark raving bonkers to the Europeans.
Being "diplomatic" won't work.0 -
So Rabb thinks maybe sort of saying it on *ONE* interview on Radio 5 is enough to say that there is a democratic mandate for no deal? Wow.Chris said:The BBC (like others) has fact-checked Dominic Raab's latest pack of lies:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-491658360 -
I am not sure day to day movements in currency worthwhile.TOPPING said:
You're an economist by training. Tell us about the time value of money. How much is a dollar today Vs a dollar tomorrow worth?Philip_Thompson said:
Except we have no need to come to our senses. We can cope either way, even HM Treasuries pessimistic forecasts show we'll be better off in a future no deal scenario than we are now, what will be foregone is some growth. The longer we get past the event horizon of a no deal Brexit the less disruptive it will be to us too.Richard_Nabavi said:
They'll just wait for us to come to our senses, at which time our bargaining position will be even weaker than it currently is.Philip_Thompson said:
If he convinces Brussels that he is mad enough to do it, then it will be job done.RobD said:
Is he mad enough to do it? Suspect they'll be wondering the same thing in Brussels.Scott_P said:
I wrote earlier this year that we needed to appear mad to Brussels. That what we needed was not just to act hard, but to act full on Vinnie Jones levels of "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" stark raving bonkers to the Europeans.
Being "diplomatic" won't work.
Lets see where the pound is in the autumn0 -
It would be nice to know whether Carney there is a chance of recession with no Brexit.DavidL said:FPT
rcs1000 said:
Scott_P said:
https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky/status/1156882370752057347
RCS said:
That shouldn't be an enormous surprise. The PMIs point to high risks of recessions in both the Eurozone and the UK.
In the US, the PMIs are the merest smidgen above 50. More worryingly, the yield curve has properly inverted. Out of the six recessions in the post WW2 era, this has only happened on seven occasions. On all but one of those, it was followed within six months by a recession.
What should scare policymakers in both Europe and the US is that monetary policy cannot easily be used to boost demand. Interest rates in the US are a mere 2%. In the UK they're are... ummm... 0.75%. The Eurozone is - what - 0.25%.
I said:
Too conventional in your thinking. Monetary policy has a larger tool kit these days. The ECB are already talking about going back to QE along with negative interest rates.0 -
I think TOPPING is talking about the worth of spending a dollar today, rather than saving it to spend tomorrow.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am not sure day to day movements in currency worthwhile.TOPPING said:
You're an economist by training. Tell us about the time value of money. How much is a dollar today Vs a dollar tomorrow worth?Philip_Thompson said:
Except we have no need to come to our senses. We can cope either way, even HM Treasuries pessimistic forecasts show we'll be better off in a future no deal scenario than we are now, what will be foregone is some growth. The longer we get past the event horizon of a no deal Brexit the less disruptive it will be to us too.Richard_Nabavi said:
They'll just wait for us to come to our senses, at which time our bargaining position will be even weaker than it currently is.Philip_Thompson said:
If he convinces Brussels that he is mad enough to do it, then it will be job done.RobD said:
Is he mad enough to do it? Suspect they'll be wondering the same thing in Brussels.Scott_P said:
I wrote earlier this year that we needed to appear mad to Brussels. That what we needed was not just to act hard, but to act full on Vinnie Jones levels of "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" stark raving bonkers to the Europeans.
Being "diplomatic" won't work.
Lets see where the pound is in the autumn
That, or I'm an idiot. Probably the latter, actually.-1 -
Indeed - that does appear to be the explanation. Thanks for that!Tissue_Price said:
The methodology changes can only have had a tiny effect at most (it was just whether to prompt for the Brexit Party or not, a decision YouGov have already implemented without calling it a "methodology change").rcs1000 said:
What they should have done is shown the figures forjustin124 said:
That would make nonsense of their last poll which had the Tories 2% ahead. They now seem to imply that actually Labour was 2% ahead! Are they now claiming that last month the LibDems were not - after all - on 22% but just 15%? Similarly the Brexit Party had not fallen to 12% but was still on 16%? If so, Ipsos Mori has credibility issues.TheScreamingEagles said:
Ipsos MORI have made some methodological changes, so they aren't comparing to last month per se.justin124 said:
Those figures are wrong Labour is unchanged - Tories are up 8 % - Lib Dems have dropped 2% - Bxt Pty has dropped 3%. - Greens down 2%.Gallowgate said:Why are these changes different?
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1156908313872949250?s=21
Apparently they do not prompt for the Brexit Party - hence, its lower rating.
New Methodology - July vs June
Old Methodology - July vs June
They should then have indicated they would only be showing new methodology in future.
The reason BritainElects' figures look so different is that they have missed out the June poll altogether!1 -
I would be grateful if you could provide me with a source for that. Genuinely interestedHYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/keiranpedley/status/1156890529675776000?s=20Foxy said:
That is what Kieren Pedley thinks in this good news/bad news thread.SouthamObserver said:Interesting that support for a No Deal in the IPSOS-Mori is 38%, which is less than the combined Tory/BXP score. 50% are opposed and 54% believe it will adversely affect them.
Despite that 10 point Tory lead I think it is way to soon to be calling any pre-Brexit election for Johnson. His lead looks very vulnerable to me.
https://twitter.com/keiranpedley/status/1156890526999863296?s=19
No leader who has led on best PM ratings has failed to win the general election even if their party lacked a clear lead on headline voting intention0 -
Big G it's nothing to do with the exchange rate. If you have a dollar today it is worth more than being given a dollar in a year's time. Even at today's low interest rates.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am not sure day to day movements in currency worthwhile.TOPPING said:
You're an economist by training. Tell us about the time value of money. How much is a dollar today Vs a dollar tomorrow worth?Philip_Thompson said:
Except we have no need to come to our senses. We can cope either way, even HM Treasuries pessimistic forecasts show we'll be better off in a future no deal scenario than we are now, what will be foregone is some growth. The longer we get past the event horizon of a no deal Brexit the less disruptive it will be to us too.Richard_Nabavi said:
They'll just wait for us to come to our senses, at which time our bargaining position will be even weaker than it currently is.Philip_Thompson said:
If he convinces Brussels that he is mad enough to do it, then it will be job done.RobD said:
Is he mad enough to do it? Suspect they'll be wondering the same thing in Brussels.Scott_P said:
I wrote earlier this year that we needed to appear mad to Brussels. That what we needed was not just to act hard, but to act full on Vinnie Jones levels of "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" stark raving bonkers to the Europeans.
Being "diplomatic" won't work.
Lets see where the pound is in the autumn
So if we forego growth today and it arrives some time in the future it makes less of an impact on our wealth.
@Philip_Thompson will explain.0 -
No. The former.RobD said:
I think TOPPING is talking about the worth of spending a dollar today, rather than saving it to spend tomorrow.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am not sure day to day movements in currency worthwhile.TOPPING said:
You're an economist by training. Tell us about the time value of money. How much is a dollar today Vs a dollar tomorrow worth?Philip_Thompson said:
Except we have no need to come to our senses. We can cope either way, even HM Treasuries pessimistic forecasts show we'll be better off in a future no deal scenario than we are now, what will be foregone is some growth. The longer we get past the event horizon of a no deal Brexit the less disruptive it will be to us too.Richard_Nabavi said:
They'll just wait for us to come to our senses, at which time our bargaining position will be even weaker than it currently is.Philip_Thompson said:
If he convinces Brussels that he is mad enough to do it, then it will be job done.RobD said:
Is he mad enough to do it? Suspect they'll be wondering the same thing in Brussels.Scott_P said:
I wrote earlier this year that we needed to appear mad to Brussels. That what we needed was not just to act hard, but to act full on Vinnie Jones levels of "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" stark raving bonkers to the Europeans.
Being "diplomatic" won't work.
Lets see where the pound is in the autumn
That, or I'm an idiot. Probably the latter, actually. 0 -
Is it any wonder, what with all the chaos at Westminster?AndyJS said:"Birthrate in England and Wales at lowest since records began"
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/birth-rate-in-england-and-wales-at-lowest-since-records-began-fw06v59pb
People can't concentrate.0 -
Callaghan led Thatcher in best PM ratings in 1979.HYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/keiranpedley/status/1156890529675776000?s=20Foxy said:
That is what Kieren Pedley thinks in this good news/bad news thread.SouthamObserver said:Interesting that support for a No Deal in the IPSOS-Mori is 38%, which is less than the combined Tory/BXP score. 50% are opposed and 54% believe it will adversely affect them.
Despite that 10 point Tory lead I think it is way to soon to be calling any pre-Brexit election for Johnson. His lead looks very vulnerable to me.
https://twitter.com/keiranpedley/status/1156890526999863296?s=19
No leader who has led on best PM ratings has failed to win the general election even if their party lacked a clear lead on headline voting intention0 -
Fair commentTOPPING said:
Big G it's nothing to do with the exchange rate. If you have a dollar today it is worth more than being given a dollar in a year's time. Even at today's low interest rates.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am not sure day to day movements in currency worthwhile.TOPPING said:
You're an economist by training. Tell us about the time value of money. How much is a dollar today Vs a dollar tomorrow worth?Philip_Thompson said:
Except we have no need to come to our senses. We can cope either way, even HM Treasuries pessimistic forecasts show we'll be better off in a future no deal scenario than we are now, what will be foregone is some growth. The longer we get past the event horizon of a no deal Brexit the less disruptive it will be to us too.Richard_Nabavi said:
They'll just wait for us to come to our senses, at which time our bargaining position will be even weaker than it currently is.Philip_Thompson said:
If he convinces Brussels that he is mad enough to do it, then it will be job done.RobD said:
Is he mad enough to do it? Suspect they'll be wondering the same thing in Brussels.Scott_P said:
I wrote earlier this year that we needed to appear mad to Brussels. That what we needed was not just to act hard, but to act full on Vinnie Jones levels of "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" stark raving bonkers to the Europeans.
Being "diplomatic" won't work.
Lets see where the pound is in the autumn
So if we forego growth today and it arrives some time in the future it makes less of an impact on our wealth.
@Philip_Thompson will explain.0 -
In the 1930s some Communists in Germany were glad the Nazis won. They were bound to cock it up and then the Communists would get their chance.
In 2016, there was much certainty Remain had won. For an hour.
I'd be wary of predicting how things will go and the consequences that follow.0 -
Even in 1992 and 2015 when the Tories lacked a clear lead in most polls and Labour even led in most 1992 polls Major and Cameron led Kinnock and Ed Miliband as preferred PM.viewcode said:
I would be grateful if you could provide me with a source for that. Genuinely interestedHYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/keiranpedley/status/1156890529675776000?s=20Foxy said:
That is what Kieren Pedley thinks in this good news/bad news thread.SouthamObserver said:Interesting that support for a No Deal in the IPSOS-Mori is 38%, which is less than the combined Tory/BXP score. 50% are opposed and 54% believe it will adversely affect them.
Despite that 10 point Tory lead I think it is way to soon to be calling any pre-Brexit election for Johnson. His lead looks very vulnerable to me.
https://twitter.com/keiranpedley/status/1156890526999863296?s=19
No leader who has led on best PM ratings has failed to win the general election even if their party lacked a clear lead on headline voting intention
Same in Australia a few months ago when Labor narrowly led most polls but Morrison led Shorten as preferred PM and the Coalition got a shock 1992 style win.
Only exception may be 1970, I think even in 1979 Thatcher led Callaghan in final polls0 -
We are now 8 days through Boris as PM.
Put another way, he has used up one-twelfth of his time before a NoDeal exit.0 -
Siddle gone I see. As an Essex supporter it's good to see 'one of ours'; as an E&W Cricket supporter......Hmmm.0
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You are no idiot and it is fair commentRobD said:
I think TOPPING is talking about the worth of spending a dollar today, rather than saving it to spend tomorrow.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am not sure day to day movements in currency worthwhile.TOPPING said:
You're an economist by training. Tell us about the time value of money. How much is a dollar today Vs a dollar tomorrow worth?Philip_Thompson said:
Except we have no need to come to our senses. We can cope either way, even HM Treasuries pessimistic forecasts show we'll be better off in a future no deal scenario than we are now, what will be foregone is some growth. The longer we get past the event horizon of a no deal Brexit the less disruptive it will be to us too.Richard_Nabavi said:
They'll just wait for us to come to our senses, at which time our bargaining position will be even weaker than it currently is.Philip_Thompson said:
If he convinces Brussels that he is mad enough to do it, then it will be job done.RobD said:
Is he mad enough to do it? Suspect they'll be wondering the same thing in Brussels.Scott_P said:
I wrote earlier this year that we needed to appear mad to Brussels. That what we needed was not just to act hard, but to act full on Vinnie Jones levels of "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" stark raving bonkers to the Europeans.
Being "diplomatic" won't work.
Lets see where the pound is in the autumn
That, or I'm an idiot. Probably the latter, actually.0 -
Could swear Callaghan led Thatcher. But am prepared to be proved wrong.viewcode said:
I would be grateful if you could provide me with a source for that. Genuinely interestedHYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/keiranpedley/status/1156890529675776000?s=20Foxy said:
That is what Kieren Pedley thinks in this good news/bad news thread.SouthamObserver said:Interesting that support for a No Deal in the IPSOS-Mori is 38%, which is less than the combined Tory/BXP score. 50% are opposed and 54% believe it will adversely affect them.
Despite that 10 point Tory lead I think it is way to soon to be calling any pre-Brexit election for Johnson. His lead looks very vulnerable to me.
https://twitter.com/keiranpedley/status/1156890526999863296?s=19
No leader who has led on best PM ratings has failed to win the general election even if their party lacked a clear lead on headline voting intention0 -
I had thought that but apparently Thatcher edged ahead of Callaghan by Spring 1979 on a net satisfied basis tooFoxy said:
Callaghan led Thatcher in best PM ratings in 1979.HYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/keiranpedley/status/1156890529675776000?s=20Foxy said:
That is what Kieren Pedley thinks in this good news/bad news thread.SouthamObserver said:Interesting that support for a No Deal in the IPSOS-Mori is 38%, which is less than the combined Tory/BXP score. 50% are opposed and 54% believe it will adversely affect them.
Despite that 10 point Tory lead I think it is way to soon to be calling any pre-Brexit election for Johnson. His lead looks very vulnerable to me.
https://twitter.com/keiranpedley/status/1156890526999863296?s=19
No leader who has led on best PM ratings has failed to win the general election even if their party lacked a clear lead on headline voting intention
https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/british-public-opinion-march-19790 -
“This party will self-destruct in x seconds.”Scott_P said:
I notice the Tories have put a "how many days do we have left in office" clock up in No10Richard_Nabavi said:Not to mention the fact that Boris has put himself in a straitjacket and thrown away the key, with a deadline which would be impossible to meet even if there were no other issues.
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Boris is doing his best to increase the birthrate...kinabalu said:
Is it any wonder, what with all the chaos at Westminster?AndyJS said:"Birthrate in England and Wales at lowest since records began"
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/birth-rate-in-england-and-wales-at-lowest-since-records-began-fw06v59pb
People can't concentrate.0 -
If interest rates are 5% and inflation is 2%, £1 today will be worth £1.05 in a year's time, or £1.03 in real terms. So £1 today is better than £1 in a year's time. 3p better in this example.TOPPING said:
Big G it's nothing to do with the exchange rate. If you have a dollar today it is worth more than being given a dollar in a year's time. Even at today's low interest rates.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am not sure day to day movements in currency worthwhile.TOPPING said:
You're an economist by training. Tell us about the time value of money. How much is a dollar today Vs a dollar tomorrow worth?Philip_Thompson said:
Except we have no need to come to our senses. We can cope either way, even HM Treasuries pessimistic forecasts show we'll be better off in a future no deal scenario than we are now, what will be foregone is some growth. The longer we get past the event horizon of a no deal Brexit the less disruptive it will be to us too.Richard_Nabavi said:
They'll just wait for us to come to our senses, at which time our bargaining position will be even weaker than it currently is.Philip_Thompson said:
If he convinces Brussels that he is mad enough to do it, then it will be job done.RobD said:
Is he mad enough to do it? Suspect they'll be wondering the same thing in Brussels.Scott_P said:
I wrote earlier this year that we needed to appear mad to Brussels. That what we needed was not just to act hard, but to act full on Vinnie Jones levels of "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" stark raving bonkers to the Europeans.
Being "diplomatic" won't work.
Lets see where the pound is in the autumn
So if we forego growth today and it arrives some time in the future it makes less of an impact on our wealth.
@Philip_Thompson will explain.
This is known as Net Present Value.0 -
That's not what @TOPPING meant, @Big_G_NorthWales . The theory is that a dollar now is worth more than a dollar in ten years time, because a) you could have put that dollar in a bank account and got interest, b) the purchasing power of that future dollar is less due to inflation, and c) there is a non-trivial chance of you dying in the meantime.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am not sure day to day movements in currency worthwhile.TOPPING said:
You're an economist by training. Tell us about the time value of money. How much is a dollar today Vs a dollar tomorrow worth?Philip_Thompson said:
Except we have no need to come to our senses. We can cope either way, even HM Treasuries pessimistic forecasts show we'll be better off in a future no deal scenario than we are now, what will be foregone is some growth. The longer we get past the event horizon of a no deal Brexit the less disruptive it will be to us too.Richard_Nabavi said:
They'll just wait for us to come to our senses, at which time our bargaining position will be even weaker than it currently is.Philip_Thompson said:
If he convinces Brussels that he is mad enough to do it, then it will be job done.RobD said:
Is he mad enough to do it? Suspect they'll be wondering the same thing in Brussels.Scott_P said:
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I wrote earlier this year that we needed to appear mad to Brussels. That what we needed was not just to act hard, but to act full on Vinnie Jones levels of "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" stark raving bonkers to the Europeans.
Being "diplomatic" won't work.
Lets see where the pound is in the autumn
I used to work in an actuarial firm (many years ago!) and you have to take things like that into account.0 -
I accept your commentsviewcode said:
That's not what @TOPPING meant, @Big_G_NorthWales . The theory is that a dollar now is worth more than a dollar in ten years time, because a) you could have put that dollar in a bank account and got interest, b) the purchasing power of that future dollar is less due to inflation, and c) there is a non-trivial chance of you dying in the meantime.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am not sure day to day movements in currency worthwhile.TOPPING said:
You're an economist by training. Tell us about the time value of money. How much is a dollar today Vs a dollar tomorrow worth?Philip_Thompson said:
Except we have no need to come to our senses. We can cope either way, even HM Treasuries pessimistic forecasts show we'll be better off in a future no deal scenario than we are now, what will be foregone is some growth. The longer we get past the event horizon of a no deal Brexit the less disruptive it will be to us too.Richard_Nabavi said:
They'll just wait for us to come to our senses, at which time our bargaining position will be even weaker than it currently is.Philip_Thompson said:
If he convinces Brussels that he is mad enough to do it, then it will be job done.RobD said:
Is he mad enough to do it? Suspect they'll be wondering the same thing in Brussels.Scott_P said:
Ing
I wrote earlier this year that we needed to appear mad to Brussels. That what we needed was not just to act hard, but to act full on Vinnie Jones levels of "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" stark raving bonkers to the Europeans.
Being "diplomatic" won't work.
Lets see where the pound is in the autumn
I used to work in an actuarial firm (many years ago!) and you have to take things like that into account.0 -
So it depends how close we are to an election.HYUFD said:
I had thought that but apparently Thatcher edged ahead of Callaghan by Spring 1979 on a net satisfied basis tooFoxy said:
Callaghan led Thatcher in best PM ratings in 1979.HYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/keiranpedley/status/1156890529675776000?s=20Foxy said:
That is what Kieren Pedley thinks in this good news/bad news thread.SouthamObserver said:Interesting that support for a No Deal in the IPSOS-Mori is 38%, which is less than the combined Tory/BXP score. 50% are opposed and 54% believe it will adversely affect them.
Despite that 10 point Tory lead I think it is way to soon to be calling any pre-Brexit election for Johnson. His lead looks very vulnerable to me.
https://twitter.com/keiranpedley/status/1156890526999863296?s=19
No leader who has led on best PM ratings has failed to win the general election even if their party lacked a clear lead on headline voting intention
https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/british-public-opinion-march-1979
How much did May lead Corbyn before the June 2017 where she lost seats and Labour gained?0
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