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Alright then. We'll agree to call them "massive twats".Byronic said:
"Brexiturds" is really ugly, and unpleasant, and, worst of all, won't be taken up by anyone else, making you look idiotic and mad.Phukov said:
I though all we needed to do was believe hard enough to achieve something? Isn't that the central lesson that Brexiturds want us to learn? Confused now.Philip_Thompson said:
Good for Boris.Scott_P said:
This is like those complaining about Cameron not halting Lisbon when he took over after it was ratified. Neither Cameron nor Boris own a Tardis.0 -
Yes. That's better.Phukov said:
Alright then. We'll agree to call them "massive twats".Byronic said:
"Brexiturds" is really ugly, and unpleasant, and, worst of all, won't be taken up by anyone else, making you look idiotic and mad.Phukov said:
I though all we needed to do was believe hard enough to achieve something? Isn't that the central lesson that Brexiturds want us to learn? Confused now.Philip_Thompson said:
Good for Boris.Scott_P said:
This is like those complaining about Cameron not halting Lisbon when he took over after it was ratified. Neither Cameron nor Boris own a Tardis.0 -
Starting to wonder whether both Hunt and Gove will do worse than expected.0
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It is possible to bet on Gove getting knocked out tonight without necessarily coming bottom?Casino_Royale said:
I've got £2 on Betfair on that at 85s.DecrepitJohnL said:
Gove is 50/1 in Shadsy's fewest votes market.Byronic said:
His performance in the C4 debate was dismal. The audience openly laughed at him, when he claimed he would "terrify" Corbyn. I would not be remotely surprised if he went out this time around.Casino_Royale said:
It could be that Gove is the shock casualty this afternoon.Byronic said:
Yes, that was my vague line of thinking. Gove is leaving it perilously late, if that is the case, however. His powder dampens in the summer drizzle.Phukov said:
Wonder whether Gove has a story about Boris to plant in the press? Nothing so far, but he could be keeping his powder dry cards close to his chest.Byronic said:
Gove versus Boris might be fun. Gove must be fuming about the cocaine story.logical_song said:
Agreed, won't bother watching if he's out.DavidL said:
I just fear that the debate tonight is going to be such an anti-climax if Rory is not in it.Tissue_Price said:I could do with a Rory elimination today.
Gove +29
Javid +27
Boris +5
Hunt +1
Raab +1
Stewart -10
Remember: he only had 37 votes in the first round.0 -
That's a poor comparison. Halting the Lisbon Treaty after it had been signed would have involved negotiating and pi**ing off all the other EU nations as it was very much a shared external treaty. Whilst I can understand how you'd like that, it wasn't a goer.Philip_Thompson said:
Good for Boris.Scott_P said:
This is like those complaining about Cameron not halting Lisbon when he took over after it was ratified. Neither Cameron nor Boris own a Tardis.
Whereas Heathrow R3 is fully within our own remit. If he wanted to stop it as PM, he could make it government policy to scrap it (probably in favour of a new grand scheme such as Boris Island) and hold a vote in the Commons. Some penalties may need to be paid, though.
AFAICR he's also against HS2. It'll be interesting to see if he says he cannot stop that project, given it is much further into development and construction.0 -
Raab all the way out to 140 now.
Someone's got it wrong, either the bettors or those speculating the ERG will flee to Raab.0 -
True, but Boris hasn't exactly been rushing around making his case either.Andrew said:
Hunt seems to have fatally undermined himself by doing nothing at all.AndyJS said:Starting to wonder whether both Hunt and Gove will do worse than expected.
The "low energy" jibes from the Boris camp are pure Trump, but they kinda strike home (especially contrasted to Rory).0 -
All this stuff about Boris being lazy. I am myself profoundly lazy (excellent Ken Bruce gag: I am a recovering workaholic, I've been clean these 40 years) and the most obvious manifestation of that laziness is the amount of time I spend on PB. I would invite Boris's critics to consider how well qualified they are to criticise, and whether they have written as many books as Boris has in his spare time, and whether they realise what fecking hard work it is writing books - even short, bad ones.kinabalu said:
Yes, the consensus on here is that pigs are brain boxes who do not like to put the work in. The case that we are about to have one as PM is becoming unanswerable.DavidL said:Orwell really was brilliant. My favourite equivalent is whoever you vote for the government always gets in.
And on pigs they are generally thought to be quite intelligent. You may be on to something.
There is some truth in the "all the same" sentiment - trouble is, it does feed that sterile, knee jerk cynicism about politics and politicians which is IMO misplaced and unhealthy.
On the whole, I respect politicians. Or to be more precise, there are many other professions that I hold in lower esteem than theirs.
Investment banking, for example. My old stamping ground.0 -
What's weird is that it's no different from what Brexiturd Boris is doing. You don't get lower energy than hiding behind the sofa.Andrew said:
Hunt seems to have fatally undermined himself by doing nothing at all.AndyJS said:Starting to wonder whether both Hunt and Gove will do worse than expected.
The "low energy" jibes from the Boris camp are pure Trump, but they kinda strike home (especially contrasted to Rory).0 -
Mr. Z, I'm not sure writing books proves much, to be honest.0
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I think it is quite good! Vaguely amusing. Brexiters are very easy to mock though. Brexiteer or Brexiter will eventually become a pejorative term when history looks back at how dumb the whole venture was. Someone susceptible to bullshit will be mocked, not as a gullible fool, but as a brexiter. "Oh you dumbass brexiter, you've fallen for it again!" To Brexit will be a verb, meaning to do something that is completely against logic and your own self interest. eg. "What an idiot, he brexited his whole fortune on that venture".Byronic said:
"Brexiturds" is really ugly, and unpleasant, and, worst of all, won't be taken up by anyone else, making you look idiotic and mad.Phukov said:
I though all we needed to do was believe hard enough to achieve something? Isn't that the central lesson that Brexiturds want us to learn? Confused now.Philip_Thompson said:
Good for Boris.Scott_P said:
This is like those complaining about Cameron not halting Lisbon when he took over after it was ratified. Neither Cameron nor Boris own a Tardis.0 -
It's a fair question. I think the difference is that there is a remorseless emotional logic to LHR3, we can all see airports are crowded, we've been talking about it for 30 years, FFS just get on and build it now.JosiasJessop said:
That's a poor comparison. Halting the Lisbon Treaty after it had been signed would have involved negotiating and pi**ing off all the other EU nations as it was very much a shared external treaty. Whilst I can understand how you'd like that, it wasn't a goer.Philip_Thompson said:
Good for Boris.Scott_P said:
This is like those complaining about Cameron not halting Lisbon when he took over after it was ratified. Neither Cameron nor Boris own a Tardis.
Whereas Heathrow R3 is fully within our own remit. If he wanted to stop it as PM, he could make it government policy to scrap it (probably in favour of a new grand scheme such as Boris Island) and hold a vote in the Commons. Some penalties may need to be paid, though.
AFAICR he's also against HS2. It'll be interesting to see if he says he cannot stop that project, given it is much further into development and construction.
HS2 appears much more speculative - and it seems outrageously expensive, to the layman.
If Boris is gonna cancel anything it will be HS2, IMHO. Suddenly he has more money for other projects.
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Not that I can see. Shadsy has 2/1 Rory not to be in the third ballot but not the equivalent bet for Gove, sfaict. You could ask for a price but the bookies will probably assume you are one of Rory's spy chums with a camera inside the ballot box.AndyJS said:
It is possible to bet on Gove getting knocked out tonight without necessarily coming bottom?Casino_Royale said:
I've got £2 on Betfair on that at 85s.DecrepitJohnL said:
Gove is 50/1 in Shadsy's fewest votes market.Byronic said:
His performance in the C4 debate was dismal. The audience openly laughed at him, when he claimed he would "terrify" Corbyn. I would not be remotely surprised if he went out this time around.Casino_Royale said:
It could be that Gove is the shock casualty this afternoon.Byronic said:
Yes, that was my vague line of thinking. Gove is leaving it perilously late, if that is the case, however. His powder dampens in the summer drizzle.Phukov said:
Wonder whether Gove has a story about Boris to plant in the press? Nothing so far, but he could be keeping his powder dry cards close to his chest.Byronic said:
Gove versus Boris might be fun. Gove must be fuming about the cocaine story.logical_song said:
Agreed, won't bother watching if he's out.DavidL said:
I just fear that the debate tonight is going to be such an anti-climax if Rory is not in it.Tissue_Price said:I could do with a Rory elimination today.
Gove +29
Javid +27
Boris +5
Hunt +1
Raab +1
Stewart -10
Remember: he only had 37 votes in the first round.0 -
Diligence - unless they're ghost-written. But you are better qualified than I am to comment.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Z, I'm not sure writing books proves much, to be honest.
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I'm taking Rory back to 0 in my book, I think he is just short but can see him tightening up if he makes it through. Someone is fibbing about how much backing they have right now.0
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Mr. Z, writing a book can be very enjoyable. I'd be more impressed if he proofread his own stuff, as that's pretty damned tedious and difficult.0
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LHR3 is fully committed, although its necessary surface access (i.e. transport) schemes are not. Of course the government can u-turn on even a fully committed plan, but not without consequence.JosiasJessop said:
That's a poor comparison. Halting the Lisbon Treaty after it had been signed would have involved negotiating and pi**ing off all the other EU nations as it was very much a shared external treaty. Whilst I can understand how you'd like that, it wasn't a goer.Philip_Thompson said:
Good for Boris.Scott_P said:
This is like those complaining about Cameron not halting Lisbon when he took over after it was ratified. Neither Cameron nor Boris own a Tardis.
Whereas Heathrow R3 is fully within our own remit. If he wanted to stop it as PM, he could make it government policy to scrap it (probably in favour of a new grand scheme such as Boris Island) and hold a vote in the Commons. Some penalties may need to be paid, though.
AFAICR he's also against HS2. It'll be interesting to see if he says he cannot stop that project, given it is much further into development and construction.0 -
Bottled it ;-)Pulpstar said:I'm taking Rory back to 0 in my book, I think he is just short but can see him tightening up if he makes it through. Someone is fibbing about how much backing they have right now.
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I think Rory is. He's playing the classic "it's really close" game. That's either true, or he thinks it's in the bag.Pulpstar said:I'm taking Rory back to 0 in my book, I think he is just short but can see him tightening up if he makes it through. Someone is fibbing about how much backing they have right now.
I wonder whether Saj is so confident because Boris lent him some votes...because if he went home surely a lot of his votes would go to Rory...0 -
They are tiny stakes in a £6m market.Phukov said:Raab all the way out to 140 now.
Someone's got it wrong, either the bettors or those speculating the ERG will flee to Raab.
I wouldn't reach much into it.0 -
I'm sure there are experts here that can tell you the deets. I'd guess it's the complex civil engineering in London plus, yes, pricey land all the way to Brum.Phukov said:
What's behind the high cost, do you know? Is is driven much by land purchase?Byronic said:
HS2 appears much more speculative - and it seems outrageously expensive, to the layman.0 -
It's good to still have an author on here.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Z, writing a book can be very enjoyable. I'd be more impressed if he proofread his own stuff, as that's pretty damned tedious and difficult.
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Fibbing that you're just short of the mark is quite a well established ploy to encourage waverers, isn't it?Pulpstar said:I'm taking Rory back to 0 in my book, I think he is just short but can see him tightening up if he makes it through. Someone is fibbing about how much backing they have right now.
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As I said, 'some penalties may need to be paid.'TheWhiteRabbit said:
LHR3 is fully committed, although its necessary surface access (i.e. transport) schemes are not. Of course the government can u-turn on even a fully committed plan, but not without consequence.JosiasJessop said:
That's a poor comparison. Halting the Lisbon Treaty after it had been signed would have involved negotiating and pi**ing off all the other EU nations as it was very much a shared external treaty. Whilst I can understand how you'd like that, it wasn't a goer.Philip_Thompson said:
Good for Boris.Scott_P said:
This is like those complaining about Cameron not halting Lisbon when he took over after it was ratified. Neither Cameron nor Boris own a Tardis.
Whereas Heathrow R3 is fully within our own remit. If he wanted to stop it as PM, he could make it government policy to scrap it (probably in favour of a new grand scheme such as Boris Island) and hold a vote in the Commons. Some penalties may need to be paid, though.
AFAICR he's also against HS2. It'll be interesting to see if he says he cannot stop that project, given it is much further into development and construction.
It is fully within the government's ability to decide not to go ahead with HR3 (I hope they don't, though).0 -
The BBC debate will be a lot more entertaining if Rory is in it.
For that reason only I hope he squeaks through.1 -
Rory = Austin Powers
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It has been raining here in London for about the last three hours solid.
Cold, hard rain. Like late November. Wrist-slitting stuff.0 -
I would far prefer Hunt to Boris "fuck business" Johnson, but the reality is that Hunt has very little charisma. He is therefore unlikely to appeal to the electorate, either within the Party or without. Unless Rory pulls off a most unlikely coup I think we are stuck with Bozo.Andrew said:
Hunt seems to have fatally undermined himself by doing nothing at all.AndyJS said:Starting to wonder whether both Hunt and Gove will do worse than expected.
The "low energy" jibes from the Boris camp are pure Trump, but they kinda strike home (especially contrasted to Rory).0 -
Mr. Price, thanks. I forget who said it but the quote that writing being the only profession in which you can make no money and still be taken seriously.
Leaving aside my own interests (*cough*buybooksbyThaddeusWhite*cough), I do have serious concerns at the difficult and worsening prospects for making money writing. Even £10,000 a year (far more than I make from it) is significantly above average, and piracy makes things very difficult.
If this persists then we're going to have a tiny number of superstars, a few people doing well, and everyone else writing will be independently wealthy or doing it as a hobby. The talented average man simply won't be able to afford it, and we'll miss out on thousands of great books because the market is simply dysfunctional.
[I am, incidentally, available for hire as a writer, whether creatively or factual, where I also have some experience].1 -
The Saj out to 310 now. Sub 33?0
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Just read through Ed Davey's live Q&A with Mumsnet.
Mein gott, they are absolutely obsessed with trans issues. Probably 70% of the comments were on that. Fair play to Davey, he stood his ground and answered "you're evidently not going to agree with me on this".0 -
Nah had him as a positive result actually. I've changed my mind a couple of times on him, which means he will probably get 33 votes and shorten to 9-1.Casino_Royale said:
Bottled it ;-)Pulpstar said:I'm taking Rory back to 0 in my book, I think he is just short but can see him tightening up if he makes it through. Someone is fibbing about how much backing they have right now.
He's not the same bank job Leadsom was at this point.0 -
Come on Ken .... get those hush puppies on and amble down the corridor before poor old Rory has a fit of the vapours ....0
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Leadsom said she was confident on the morning of he first vote tooChris said:
Fibbing that you're just short of the mark is quite a well established ploy to encourage waverers, isn't it?Pulpstar said:I'm taking Rory back to 0 in my book, I think he is just short but can see him tightening up if he makes it through. Someone is fibbing about how much backing they have right now.
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When do we get the result?0
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Suggestion for an anti-HS2 campaign: Let's take all the money we were going to spend on HS2 and give it to the NHS.JosiasJessop said:
As I said, 'some penalties may need to be paid.'TheWhiteRabbit said:
LHR3 is fully committed, although its necessary surface access (i.e. transport) schemes are not. Of course the government can u-turn on even a fully committed plan, but not without consequence.JosiasJessop said:
That's a poor comparison. Halting the Lisbon Treaty after it had been signed would have involved negotiating and pi**ing off all the other EU nations as it was very much a shared external treaty. Whilst I can understand how you'd like that, it wasn't a goer.Philip_Thompson said:
Good for Boris.Scott_P said:
This is like those complaining about Cameron not halting Lisbon when he took over after it was ratified. Neither Cameron nor Boris own a Tardis.
Whereas Heathrow R3 is fully within our own remit. If he wanted to stop it as PM, he could make it government policy to scrap it (probably in favour of a new grand scheme such as Boris Island) and hold a vote in the Commons. Some penalties may need to be paid, though.
AFAICR he's also against HS2. It'll be interesting to see if he says he cannot stop that project, given it is much further into development and construction.
It is fully within the government's ability to decide not to go ahead with HR3 (I hope they don't, though).
There are many candidates for the title of the worst thing David Cameron did to the country, but inventing or at least approving that fallacious sanctimonious general purpose drek of an argument in the AV campaign is a strong contender.0 -
Don't chase the market.Andrew said:The Saj out to 310 now. Sub 33?
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Ah, I see.Pulpstar said:
Nah had him as a positive result actually. I've changed my mind a couple of times on him, which means he will probably get 33 votes and shorten to 9-1.Casino_Royale said:
Bottled it ;-)Pulpstar said:I'm taking Rory back to 0 in my book, I think he is just short but can see him tightening up if he makes it through. Someone is fibbing about how much backing they have right now.
He's not the same bank job Leadsom was at this point.0 -
https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1141002379338211328
As predicted here on PB. This is going to be a clusterf**k that makes May's tenure looking balanced. 0 -
I'll do a final prediction at about 5:30pm, but I'd be amazed if I get it as accurate as last time. That was probably a fluke. 😊0
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Dealing with the issues that matter!El_Capitano said:Just read through Ed Davey's live Q&A with Mumsnet.
Mein gott, they are absolutely obsessed with trans issues. Probably 70% of the comments were on that. Fair play to Davey, he stood his ground and answered "you're evidently not going to agree with me on this".0 -
Oh it's a massive issue in some circles. Scottish politics is churning with transbaiting right now. It's really depressing.El_Capitano said:Just read through Ed Davey's live Q&A with Mumsnet.
Mein gott, they are absolutely obsessed with trans issues. Probably 70% of the comments were on that. Fair play to Davey, he stood his ground and answered "you're evidently not going to agree with me on this".0 -
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Although 9/10 the opposite of Dan Hodges predictions happens...rottenborough said:https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1141002379338211328
As predicted here on PB. This is going to be a clusterf**k that makes May's tenure looking balanced.
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I assume MI6 will now do their part to keep their man in the game?3
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I wouldn't be backing Boris at 1.17 before this live debate.
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Ken has voted.0
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Sky News - Ken Clarke ambled up at the last minute to vote
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Don't be so down on Mumsnet.RobD said:
Dealing with the issues that matter!El_Capitano said:Just read through Ed Davey's live Q&A with Mumsnet.
Mein gott, they are absolutely obsessed with trans issues. Probably 70% of the comments were on that. Fair play to Davey, he stood his ground and answered "you're evidently not going to agree with me on this".0 -
Williamson waiting for as full a picture as possible of the numbers before deciding who to vote for?0
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As votes closed early, I assume that every Conservative MP voted?AndyJS said:0 -
Just laid a bit more Hunt at 22.0
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and a few pseudo-BXP MPs as well.JosiasJessop said:
As votes closed early, I assume that every Conservative MP voted?AndyJS said:0 -
Better money in backing BorisCasino_Royale said:Just laid a bit more Hunt at 22.
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Which is why my major investment advice for the next 6 months is popcorn manufacturers...GIN1138 said:
Although 9/10 the opposite of Dan Hodges predictions happens...rottenborough said:https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1141002379338211328
As predicted here on PB. This is going to be a clusterf**k that makes May's tenure looking balanced.0 -
Surely the question is "which humans". I'm not sure Olly Robins would be much missed...Sean_F said:
Human sacrifice is cheap at the price.AlastairMeeks said:
More to the point, what's the problem with the resurrection of the dead anyway? Surely that would be more like a Brexit bonus...0 -
Yes, I expect that's correct.JosiasJessop said:
As votes closed early, I assume that every Conservative MP voted?AndyJS said:0 -
If Hunt underperforms I expect his price to fly out.Phukov said:
Better money in backing BorisCasino_Royale said:Just laid a bit more Hunt at 22.
I'm betting in anticipation of the Betfair market as much as anything else.0 -
Lots of Tory voters amongst those dead people. The living is more problematic.theProle said:
Surely the question is "which humans". I'm not sure Olly Robins would be much missed...Sean_F said:
Human sacrifice is cheap at the price.AlastairMeeks said:
More to the point, what's the problem with the resurrection of the dead anyway? Surely that would be more like a Brexit bonus...0 -
I sense (but do not know) that he is intellectually lazy as opposed to indolent.Ishmael_Z said:All this stuff about Boris being lazy. I am myself profoundly lazy (excellent Ken Bruce gag: I am a recovering workaholic, I've been clean these 40 years) and the most obvious manifestation of that laziness is the amount of time I spend on PB. I would invite Boris's critics to consider how well qualified they are to criticise, and whether they have written as many books as Boris has in his spare time, and whether they realise what fecking hard work it is writing books - even short, bad ones.
Yes, to write a book, a proper one, any book of say 30,000 words or more, takes a concerted effort of which probably the majority of people are not capable.
I wrote one a few years ago and it wore me out. I could not write one now.0 -
Probably. Also, him voting last gives him an extra air of authority.MikeL said:Williamson waiting for as full a picture as possible of the numbers before deciding who to vote for?
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Though not many of his critics have had the temerity to put themselves forward as Prime Minister...Ishmael_Z said:
All this stuff about Boris being lazy. I am myself profoundly lazy (excellent Ken Bruce gag: I am a recovering workaholic, I've been clean these 40 years) and the most obvious manifestation of that laziness is the amount of time I spend on PB. I would invite Boris's critics to consider how well qualified they are to criticise, and whether they have written as many books as Boris has in his spare time, and whether they realise what fecking hard work it is writing books - even short, bad ones.kinabalu said:
Yes, the consensus on here is that pigs are brain boxes who do not like to put the work in. The case that we are about to have one as PM is becoming unanswerable.DavidL said:Orwell really was brilliant. My favourite equivalent is whoever you vote for the government always gets in.
And on pigs they are generally thought to be quite intelligent. You may be on to something.
There is some truth in the "all the same" sentiment - trouble is, it does feed that sterile, knee jerk cynicism about politics and politicians which is IMO misplaced and unhealthy.
On the whole, I respect politicians. Or to be more precise, there are many other professions that I hold in lower esteem than theirs.
Investment banking, for example. My old stamping ground.
... and I thought that Boris used his spare time to do his actual job ?
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Probably standing outside the room, whittling a pencil with a very sharp knife while muttering under his breath about the value of loyalty. A helpful reminder to colleagues as they walk past to vote.MikeL said:Williamson waiting for as full a picture as possible of the numbers before deciding who to vote for?
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Extra ?Casino_Royale said:
Probably. Also, him voting last gives him an extra air of authority.MikeL said:Williamson waiting for as full a picture as possible of the numbers before deciding who to vote for?
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You’re assuming that he did the actual writing and research himself. A literary agent and publisher friends of mine have some stories to tell about authors who do remarkably little actual writing.kinabalu said:
I sense (but do not know) that he is intellectually lazy as opposed to indolent.Ishmael_Z said:All this stuff about Boris being lazy. I am myself profoundly lazy (excellent Ken Bruce gag: I am a recovering workaholic, I've been clean these 40 years) and the most obvious manifestation of that laziness is the amount of time I spend on PB. I would invite Boris's critics to consider how well qualified they are to criticise, and whether they have written as many books as Boris has in his spare time, and whether they realise what fecking hard work it is writing books - even short, bad ones.
Yes, to write a book, a proper one, any book of say 30,000 words or more, takes a concerted effort of which probably the majority of people are not capable.
I wrote one a few years ago and it wore me out. I could not write one now.0 -
IHT nightmare.theProle said:
Surely the question is "which humans". I'm not sure Olly Robins would be much missed...Sean_F said:
Human sacrifice is cheap at the price.AlastairMeeks said:
More to the point, what's the problem with the resurrection of the dead anyway? Surely that would be more like a Brexit bonus...0 -
Whatever happens just after 6pm I will regret not doing whatever would have given me the better result, which will look more obvious with hindsight.
The gambler's curse.0 -
doubledNigelb said:
Extra ?Casino_Royale said:
Probably. Also, him voting last gives him an extra air of authority.MikeL said:Williamson waiting for as full a picture as possible of the numbers before deciding who to vote for?
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That's true of all of us I think.Casino_Royale said:Whatever happens just after 6pm I will regret not doing whatever would have given me the better result, which will look more obvious with hindsight.
The gambler's curse.0 -
I assume Boles, Soubry, Allen and Wollaston probably all would have voted Stewart.
It would be amusing if Stewart gets 32 and eliminated by 1 that any of them could have given him. If none had quit he would be pretty certainly safe already.2 -
Authority?Nigelb said:
Extra ?Casino_Royale said:
Probably. Also, him voting last gives him an extra air of authority.MikeL said:Williamson waiting for as full a picture as possible of the numbers before deciding who to vote for?
Could be one of the most depressing things about the new regime.0 -
Right, I think I have time to get to my car because Tories count so slowly. The shades of Alec Douglas Hume and his matchsticks lives on.0
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No matter how many times I do this the bedwetting stage (now) doesn't get any easier.AndyJS said:
That's true of all of us I think.Casino_Royale said:Whatever happens just after 6pm I will regret not doing whatever would have given me the better result, which will look more obvious with hindsight.
The gambler's curse.0 -
They count at the pace required to hit the start of the news.DavidL said:Right, I think I have time to get to my car because Tories count so slowly. The shades of Alec Douglas Hume and his matchsticks lives on.
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Yes, I can imagine. If you can sell it on your name it must be tempting (if you are not in love with the creative process) to take a ride. Writing is quite an onerous activity. Even somebody with a lot of natural talent has to work hard to produce something which is both lengthy and genuinely good.Cyclefree said:You’re assuming that he did the actual writing and research himself. A literary agent and publisher friends of mine have some stories to tell about authors who do remarkably little actual writing.
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I'm praying for a 4-way tie for last place.
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Javid coming in a bit.0
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Off topic, this would tend to lend more weight to Alastair's theory:
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Wonder who Gavin lent his vote to0
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Hunt.Pulpstar said:Wonder who Gavin lent his vote to
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I had dinner with a chap who claimed to have written much of Boris’ Churchill Factor Book. Don’t know how true it was, however, the individual in question was a historian and has published on Churchill.Cyclefree said:
You’re assuming that he did the actual writing and research himself. A literary agent and publisher friends of mine have some stories to tell about authors who do remarkably little actual writing.
Who knows.0 -
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No-one is looking to back him at less than 1000 at the moment.rottenborough said:Javid coming in a bit.
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Well if it was him I'm afraid he's neither a good writer nor a good historian.Jim_the_Lurker said:
I had dinner with a chap who claimed to have written much of Boris’ Churchill Factor Book. Don’t know how true it was, however, the individual in question was a historian and has published on Churchill.Cyclefree said:
You’re assuming that he did the actual writing and research himself. A literary agent and publisher friends of mine have some stories to tell about authors who do remarkably little actual writing.
Who knows.0
