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In a huge shock, David Amess has decided to vote for Dominic Raab.
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One aspect of Bozo becoming PM.
A so called true believer . Will the right wing press spin the smallest of concessions from the EU as a massive victory .
They’re desperate to say , there see it’s May the non believers fault we’re in this mess .
I despise Bozo but if anyone can spin not very much into something wonderful he can .
In terms of the backstop there’s possibly only one thing that can be done and something Katya Adler mentioned .
If you have a system whereby elements of the backstop fall away as alternative arrangements come in . Bozo could say there I’m confident we can do this . And spin it .
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The BoJo effect is confusing. Everyone on here seems to hate him, yet he seems popular in the polling. I look upon him as an amiable clown, and if he becomes PM, so what?
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.
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Morning. That's correct, in the first round it's 5%, and 10% in all other rounds. Funny thing is that it's being reported that this will be 17 votes and 33 votes respectively, even though 5% of 313 is 15.65, so you'd think it would be 16 and 32.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Morning all,AndyJS said:I'm not sure Leadsom can get 17 votes. She could be knocked out of the race in 2 hours and 10 minutes.
So in this contest, there's a minimum threshold of votes, not just the last-placed candidate obliged to withdraw?0 -
Basil D'Oliveira not picked for the England cricket tour of South Africa in 1968.SouthamObserver said:Pandering to Donald Trump's racism is a new low for this country, but it is something we will have to get used to when Johnson becomes PM.
Sajid Javid omitted from the Trump dinner in 2019.
Key difference (other than the obvious) - the first abomination was reversed.0 -
This raised a Platonic (PB version) wtf from me! Is their sprog really called Brexit?
https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/1139112671826108416
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True, there does not seem to be a plausible explanation as why our current home secretary Sajid Javid was not invited.Nigelb said:
Even odder that he apparently wanted to go.Theuniondivvie said:The Saj unhappy about non invite, with some justification it would appear.
https://twitter.com/Jacqui_Smith1/status/1139105348470673408
It has a terrible smell of racism about it.0 -
It’s a battle of nerves and this is squeaky bum time.DecrepitJohnL said:Rationally I ought to press my bets. Trouble is, everything is so nicely balanced as they are.
If your analysis is rational: hold your nerve.0 -
Surely we already knew Boris's views?TGOHF said:0 -
Said it before, but anyone that believes in something so mind numbingly puerile as Brexit accusing anyone else of childishness is ironic in the extreme. Go and read your war comic and stop trying to play with the grown-ups.CD13 said:The BoJo effect is confusing. Everyone on here seems to hate him, yet he seems popular in the polling. I look upon him as an amiable clown, and if he becomes PM, so what?
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.0 -
Is this going to do any better than the attempted dragging of Boris to court?Scott_P said:
Offensive speech certainly,
racist speech possibly,
incitement to violence no,
comments aimed at a specific individual no.0 -
Andrea wants to be the Corbyn of the Tories?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Nickname.Theuniondivvie said:This raised a Platonic (PB version) wtf from me! Is their sprog really called Brexit?
https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/1139112671826108416
He was born the day Article 50 was triggered.
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They absolutely will. That must be Boris's plan: revive Theresa's deal (possibly with some trivial 'amendments') then sit back as the joyous right-wing media/Tory party dance around the Boris maypole.nico67 said:One aspect of Bozo becoming PM.
A so called true believer . Will the right wing press spin the smallest of concessions from the EU as a massive victory .
They’re desperate to say , there see it’s May the non believers fault we’re in this mess .
I despise Bozo but if anyone can spin not very much into something wonderful he can .
In terms of the backstop there’s possibly only one thing that can be done and something Katya Adler mentioned .
If you have a system whereby elements of the backstop fall away as alternative arrangements come in . Bozo could say there I’m confident we can do this . And spin it .0 -
You really are an unpleasant piece of work, aren’t you?Nigel_Foremain said:
Said it before, but anyone that believes in something so mind numbingly puerile as Brexit accusing anyone else of childishness is ironic in the extreme. Go and read your war comic and stop trying to play with the grown-ups.CD13 said:The BoJo effect is confusing. Everyone on here seems to hate him, yet he seems popular in the polling. I look upon him as an amiable clown, and if he becomes PM, so what?
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.
I can’t think of a single post you’ve made that’s contributed anything to this site.
You don’t offer insight, perspective, humour, tips or analysis; you’re just an angry and rude keyboard ranter.1 -
Appreciate you are injecting some humour here but it does seem disturbing if he was not invited when previous Home Secretary's always have been.Nigelb said:
Even odder that he apparently wanted to go.Theuniondivvie said:The Saj unhappy about non invite, with some justification it would appear.
https://twitter.com/Jacqui_Smith1/status/11391053484706734080 -
The Tory Party is now beyond parody. I might even start advocating Scottish independence and ask you if I can have political asylum.Theuniondivvie said:This raised a Platonic (PB version) wtf from me! Is their sprog really called Brexit?
https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/11391126718261084160 -
5% + a vote for themselvesAndyJS said:
Morning. That's correct, in the first round it's 5%, and 10% in all other rounds. Funny thing is that it's being reported that this will be 17 votes and 33 votes respectively, even though 5% of 313 is 15.65, so you'd think it would be 16 and 32.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Morning all,AndyJS said:I'm not sure Leadsom can get 17 votes. She could be knocked out of the race in 2 hours and 10 minutes.
So in this contest, there's a minimum threshold of votes, not just the last-placed candidate obliged to withdraw?0 -
Wiki says NOTheuniondivvie said:This raised a Platonic (PB version) wtf from me! Is their sprog really called Brexit?
https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/1139112671826108416
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It is indeed very strange.Benpointer said:
Appreciate you are injecting some humour here but it does seem disturbing if he was not invited when previous Home Secretary's always have been.Nigelb said:
Even odder that he apparently wanted to go.Theuniondivvie said:The Saj unhappy about non invite, with some justification it would appear.
https://twitter.com/Jacqui_Smith1/status/11391053484706734080 -
We've pandered to US racism in the past.kinabalu said:
Basil D'Oliveira not picked for the England cricket tour of South Africa in 1968.SouthamObserver said:Pandering to Donald Trump's racism is a new low for this country, but it is something we will have to get used to when Johnson becomes PM.
Sajid Javid omitted from the Trump dinner in 2019.
Key difference (other than the obvious) - the first abomination was reversed.0 -
So he's really called Clifford? Not much better really is it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nickname.Theuniondivvie said:This raised a Platonic (PB version) wtf from me! Is their sprog really called Brexit?
https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/1139112671826108416
He was born the day Article 50 was triggered.
Edit: perhaps he should have been called Cliff-edge?0 -
I've never really got the argument that the modern Conservative Party is so extreme as to be beyond the pale, on the part of people who voted Conservative in the Seventies and Eighties, when you had MP's demanding repatriation or the recriminalisation of homosexuality.Casino_Royale said:
You really are an unpleasant piece of work, aren’t you?Nigel_Foremain said:
Said it before, but anyone that believes in something so mind numbingly puerile as Brexit accusing anyone else of childishness is ironic in the extreme. Go and read your war comic and stop trying to play with the grown-ups.CD13 said:The BoJo effect is confusing. Everyone on here seems to hate him, yet he seems popular in the polling. I look upon him as an amiable clown, and if he becomes PM, so what?
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.
I can’t think of a single post you’ve made that’s contributed anything to this site.
You don’t offer insight, perspective, humour, tips or analysis; you’re just an angry and rude keyboard ranter.0 -
I suppose this pair of sinful adulterers were voting Boris!
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The talking heads are saying it is the 5%, 10% threshold plus the leadership contenders own vote. So 16 other MPs plus 1 own vote.AndyJS said:
Morning. That's correct, in the first round it's 5%, and 10% in all other rounds. Funny thing is that it's being reported that this will be 17 votes and 33 votes respectively, even though 5% of 313 is 15.65, so you'd think it would be 16 and 32.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Morning all,AndyJS said:I'm not sure Leadsom can get 17 votes. She could be knocked out of the race in 2 hours and 10 minutes.
So in this contest, there's a minimum threshold of votes, not just the last-placed candidate obliged to withdraw?0 -
In response to @isam, I have written a number of headers since the referendum result which were more sympathetic to the Brexit position or to those who voted for it than you might suppose from my current views.
See here -
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/07/12/uniting-the-country/
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/08/18/cyclefree-on-the-perils-of-hubris/
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/09/30/a-new-settlement-for-europe/
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/10/14/cyclefree-with-a-mischievous-suggestion/
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/05/07/terms-of-endearment/
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2018/05/28/taking-back-control/
And if I've become more pro-Remain than I was then it's very largely because of the behaviour of so many of those pushing Brexit. That is something which they ought to reflect on. They have done very little to try and get a consensus about the way forward which will last. That is a shocking failure and pointing to the Remainers' similar failure in the past is no answer.0 -
+1argyllrs said:
5% + a vote for themselvesAndyJS said:
Morning. That's correct, in the first round it's 5%, and 10% in all other rounds. Funny thing is that it's being reported that this will be 17 votes and 33 votes respectively, even though 5% of 313 is 15.65, so you'd think it would be 16 and 32.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Morning all,AndyJS said:I'm not sure Leadsom can get 17 votes. She could be knocked out of the race in 2 hours and 10 minutes.
So in this contest, there's a minimum threshold of votes, not just the last-placed candidate obliged to withdraw?0 -
...Says a rather angry and rude @Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale said:
You really are an unpleasant piece of work, aren’t you?Nigel_Foremain said:
Said it before, but anyone that believes in something so mind numbingly puerile as Brexit accusing anyone else of childishness is ironic in the extreme. Go and read your war comic and stop trying to play with the grown-ups.CD13 said:The BoJo effect is confusing. Everyone on here seems to hate him, yet he seems popular in the polling. I look upon him as an amiable clown, and if he becomes PM, so what?
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.
I can’t think of a single post you’ve made that’s contributed anything to this site.
You don’t offer insight, perspective, humour, tips or analysis; you’re just an angry and rude keyboard ranter.
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I thought it was a libel claim in relation to the comments made by Corbyn at a pro-Palestinian event where he talked about Jews lacking irony etc and at which the claimant, Richard Millett, was present.Sandpit said:
Is this going to do any better than the attempted dragging of Boris to court?Scott_P said:
Offensive speech certainly,
racist speech possibly,
incitement to violence no,
comments aimed at a specific individual no.0 -
One things for sure .
Brexit has caused other EU countries to think again about embarking on the same course of action .
Support for the EU has gone up , more Eurosceptic leaders now talk about staying in and making changes from within the EU not leaving .
For Leavers they won’t be getting any validation from another EU country , but they can of course run along to Trump to get given a little pat on the head !
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I think they named him after the late father of Andrea Jenkyns.Benpointer said:
So he's really called Clifford? Not much better really is it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nickname.Theuniondivvie said:This raised a Platonic (PB version) wtf from me! Is their sprog really called Brexit?
https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/1139112671826108416
He was born the day Article 50 was triggered.
Edit: perhaps he should have been called Cliff-edge?
Edit - Here’s the linky
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/jack-lopresti-calls-son-brexit-10046770 -
oh dear, touched a nerve. I have added quite a number of insights relating to the constitution, correct understanding of how the EU works (contrary to people like you) and how the Conservative Party used to be before it was taken over by insanity. I believe in prosperity, the rule of law, and human decency, which is why I am vociferously opposed to fascism and puerile and divisive philosophies like Brexit, and I will continue to mock stupid posts like the one I previously commented on. If that makes me an unpleasant piece of work in your tiny mind I really couldn't give a shit, but you, mate, advocate a hateful divisive policy called Brexit, so take the beam out of your own eye. Now I ought to do some work!Casino_Royale said:
You really are an unpleasant piece of work, aren’t you?Nigel_Foremain said:
Said it before, but anyone that believes in something so mind numbingly puerile as Brexit accusing anyone else of childishness is ironic in the extreme. Go and read your war comic and stop trying to play with the grown-ups.CD13 said:The BoJo effect is confusing. Everyone on here seems to hate him, yet he seems popular in the polling. I look upon him as an amiable clown, and if he becomes PM, so what?
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.
I can’t think of a single post you’ve made that’s contributed anything to this site.
You don’t offer insight, perspective, humour, tips or analysis; you’re just an angry and rude keyboard ranter.0 -
And quite conceivably conceived on EUref day. We all have our celebratory rituals.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nickname.Theuniondivvie said:This raised a Platonic (PB version) wtf from me! Is their sprog really called Brexit?
https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/1139112671826108416
He was born the day Article 50 was triggered.0 -
Do you work?Nigel_Foremain said:
oh dear, touched a nerve. I have added quite a number of insights relating to the constitution, correct understanding of how the EU works (contrary to people like you) and how the Conservative Party used to be before it was taken over by insanity. I believe in prosperity, the rule of law, and human decency, which is why I am vociferously opposed to fascism and puerile and divisive philosophies like Brexit, and I will continue to mock stupid posts like the one I previously commented on. If that makes me an unpleasant piece of work in your tiny mind I really couldn't give a shit, but you, mate, advocate a hateful divisive policy called Brexit, so take the beam out of your own eye. Now I ought to do some work!Casino_Royale said:
You really are an unpleasant piece of work, aren’t you?Nigel_Foremain said:
Said it before, but anyone that believes in something so mind numbingly puerile as Brexit accusing anyone else of childishness is ironic in the extreme. Go and read your war comic and stop trying to play with the grown-ups.CD13 said:The BoJo effect is confusing. Everyone on here seems to hate him, yet he seems popular in the polling. I look upon him as an amiable clown, and if he becomes PM, so what?
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.
I can’t think of a single post you’ve made that’s contributed anything to this site.
You don’t offer insight, perspective, humour, tips or analysis; you’re just an angry and rude keyboard ranter.0 -
Yes. You should.Nigel_Foremain said:
oh dear, touched a nerve. I have added quite a number of insights relating to the constitution, correct understanding of how the EU works (contrary to people like you) and how the Conservative Party used to be before it was taken over by insanity. I believe in prosperity, the rule of law, and human decency, which is why I am vociferously opposed to fascism and puerile and divisive philosophies like Brexit, and I will continue to mock stupid posts like the one I previously commented on. If that makes me an unpleasant piece of work in your tiny mind I really couldn't give a shit, but you, mate, advocate a hateful divisive policy called Brexit, so take the beam out of your own eye. Now I ought to do some work!Casino_Royale said:
You really are an unpleasant piece of work, aren’t you?Nigel_Foremain said:
Said it before, but anyone that believes in something so mind numbingly puerile as Brexit accusing anyone else of childishness is ironic in the extreme. Go and read your war comic and stop trying to play with the grown-ups.CD13 said:The BoJo effect is confusing. Everyone on here seems to hate him, yet he seems popular in the polling. I look upon him as an amiable clown, and if he becomes PM, so what?
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.
I can’t think of a single post you’ve made that’s contributed anything to this site.
You don’t offer insight, perspective, humour, tips or analysis; you’re just an angry and rude keyboard ranter.0 -
AndyJS said:
Morning. That's correct, in the first round it's 5%, and 10% in all other rounds. Funny thing is that it's being reported that this will be 17 votes and 33 votes respectively, even though 5% of 313 is 15.65, so you'd think it would be 16 and 32.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Morning all,AndyJS said:I'm not sure Leadsom can get 17 votes. She could be knocked out of the race in 2 hours and 10 minutes.
So in this contest, there's a minimum threshold of votes, not just the last-placed candidate obliged to withdraw?ralphmalph said:
The talking heads are saying it is the 5%, 10% threshold plus the leadership contenders own vote. So 16 other MPs plus 1 own vote.AndyJS said:
Morning. That's correct, in the first round it's 5%, and 10% in all other rounds. Funny thing is that it's being reported that this will be 17 votes and 33 votes respectively, even though 5% of 313 is 15.65, so you'd think it would be 16 and 32.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Morning all,AndyJS said:I'm not sure Leadsom can get 17 votes. She could be knocked out of the race in 2 hours and 10 minutes.
So in this contest, there's a minimum threshold of votes, not just the last-placed candidate obliged to withdraw?
Thanks, will be interesting to see how many survive beyond 1pm!
Fun fact in 2016 was that Theresa May won an outright majority (just about!) in the first ballot, given Dave abstained.0 -
Yeah Wiki says the same.TheScreamingEagles said:
I think they named him after the late father of Andrea Jenkyns.Benpointer said:
So he's really called Clifford? Not much better really is it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nickname.Theuniondivvie said:This raised a Platonic (PB version) wtf from me! Is their sprog really called Brexit?
https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/1139112671826108416
He was born the day Article 50 was triggered.
Edit: perhaps he should have been called Cliff-edge?
Edit - Here’s the linky
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/jack-lopresti-calls-son-brexit-1004677
I had to check because after posting I thought maybe 'Brexit Clifford' (Brexit Cliff-edge) was the nickname and the poor mite's real name was something more mundane.0 -
Ah okay, so it will get tested in court then. That could be very awkward indeed for Mr Corbyn, not to mention very expensive to defend.Cyclefree said:
I thought it was a libel claim in relation to the comments made by Corbyn at a pro-Palestinian event where he talked about Jews lacking irony etc and at which the claimant, Richard Millett, was present.Sandpit said:
Is this going to do any better than the attempted dragging of Boris to court?Scott_P said:
Offensive speech certainly,
racist speech possibly,
incitement to violence no,
comments aimed at a specific individual no.
Did you enjoy NY (apart from the airport experience and having your speech cancelled)?0 -
"Brexit isn't like coursework, baby!"DecrepitJohnL said:
Surely we already knew Boris's views?TGOHF said: 0 -
Hunt now longer than Leadsom whilst Boris shortens further!0
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That can't be right - after we leave the whole evil empire is going to collapse under the domino effect surely?nico67 said:One things for sure .
Brexit has caused other EU countries to think again about embarking on the same course of action .
Support for the EU has gone up , more Eurosceptic leaders now talk about staying in and making changes from within the EU not leaving .
For Leavers they won’t be getting any validation from another EU country , but they can of course run along to Trump to get given a little pat on the head !0 -
Trump's a bit unpredictable though. I can imagine him suddenly deciding that EU membership is quite cool after all and tweeting accordingly. That would then only leave us with Vlad and Tony Abbott.nico67 said:One things for sure .
Brexit has caused other EU countries to think again about embarking on the same course of action .
Support for the EU has gone up , more Eurosceptic leaders now talk about staying in and making changes from within the EU not leaving .
For Leavers they won’t be getting any validation from another EU country , but they can of course run along to Trump to get given a little pat on the head !0 -
I wonder if it was planned or accidental?Ishmael_Z said:
And quite conceivably conceived on EUref day. We all have our celebratory rituals.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nickname.Theuniondivvie said:This raised a Platonic (PB version) wtf from me! Is their sprog really called Brexit?
https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/1139112671826108416
He was born the day Article 50 was triggered.
'We weren't expecting this outcome but we're going to make a bloody good go of it. Brexit Clifford means Brexit Clifford!'0 -
What a stupidly pants question.Sean_F said:
Do you work?Nigel_Foremain said:
oh dear, touched a nerve. I have added quite a number of insights relating to the constitution, correct understanding of how the EU works (contrary to people like you) and how the Conservative Party used to be before it was taken over by insanity. I believe in prosperity, the rule of law, and human decency, which is why I am vociferously opposed to fascism and puerile and divisive philosophies like Brexit, and I will continue to mock stupid posts like the one I previously commented on. If that makes me an unpleasant piece of work in your tiny mind I really couldn't give a shit, but you, mate, advocate a hateful divisive policy called Brexit, so take the beam out of your own eye. Now I ought to do some work!Casino_Royale said:
You really are an unpleasant piece of work, aren’t you?Nigel_Foremain said:
Said it before, but anyone that believes in something so mind numbingly puerile as Brexit accusing anyone else of childishness is ironic in the extreme. Go and read your war comic and stop trying to play with the grown-ups.CD13 said:The BoJo effect is confusing. Everyone on here seems to hate him, yet he seems popular in the polling. I look upon him as an amiable clown, and if he becomes PM, so what?
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.
I can’t think of a single post you’ve made that’s contributed anything to this site.
You don’t offer insight, perspective, humour, tips or analysis; you’re just an angry and rude keyboard ranter.
Do you work? Does Ms Free? Does Mr Meeks? Does it matter?
There are a whole host of commentators on here who write quality threaders and give many good comments despite holding down (sometimes rather hard) jobs.
And then there's me... 0 -
Was the circumstance not that he was married at the time, and his wife left him when she found out about the pregnancy?Theuniondivvie said:
I wonder if it was planned or accidental?Ishmael_Z said:
And quite conceivably conceived on EUref day. We all have our celebratory rituals.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nickname.Theuniondivvie said:This raised a Platonic (PB version) wtf from me! Is their sprog really called Brexit?
https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/1139112671826108416
He was born the day Article 50 was triggered.
'We weren't expecting this outcome but we're going to make a bloody good go of it. Brexit Clifford means Brexit Clifford!'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4440892/Tory-MP-Jack-Lopresti-facing-deselection-calls.html0 -
Fair enough. Point taken.JosiasJessop said:
What a stupidly pants question.Sean_F said:
Do you work?Nigel_Foremain said:
oh dear, touched a nerve. I have added quite a number of insights relating to the constitution, correct understanding of how the EU works (contrary to people like you) and how the Conservative Party used to be before it was taken over by insanity. I believe in prosperity, the rule of law, and human decency, which is why I am vociferously opposed to fascism and puerile and divisive philosophies like Brexit, and I will continue to mock stupid posts like the one I previously commented on. If that makes me an unpleasant piece of work in your tiny mind I really couldn't give a shit, but you, mate, advocate a hateful divisive policy called Brexit, so take the beam out of your own eye. Now I ought to do some work!Casino_Royale said:
You really are an unpleasant piece of work, aren’t you?Nigel_Foremain said:
Said it before, but anyone that believes in something so mind numbingly puerile as Brexit accusing anyone else of childishness is ironic in the extreme. Go and read your war comic and stop trying to play with the grown-ups.CD13 said:The BoJo effect is confusing. Everyone on here seems to hate him, yet he seems popular in the polling. I look upon him as an amiable clown, and if he becomes PM, so what?
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.
I can’t think of a single post you’ve made that’s contributed anything to this site.
You don’t offer insight, perspective, humour, tips or analysis; you’re just an angry and rude keyboard ranter.
Do you work? Does Ms Free? Does Mr Meeks? Does it matter?
There are a whole host of commentators on here who write quality threaders and give many good comments despite holding down (sometimes rather hard) jobs.
And then there's me...0 -
Ken Clarke, laid back as ever, just makes the deadline apparently to vote for Rory.0
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Ah, an action with far reaching and unintended consequences.Sandpit said:
Was the circumstance not that he was married at the time, and his wife left him when she found out about the pregnancy?Theuniondivvie said:
I wonder if it was planned or accidental?Ishmael_Z said:
And quite conceivably conceived on EUref day. We all have our celebratory rituals.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nickname.Theuniondivvie said:This raised a Platonic (PB version) wtf from me! Is their sprog really called Brexit?
https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/1139112671826108416
He was born the day Article 50 was triggered.
'We weren't expecting this outcome but we're going to make a bloody good go of it. Brexit Clifford means Brexit Clifford!'0 -
The vague domino effect thing is another data point for the "Brexit is the Tory Vietnam" theoryBenpointer said:That can't be right - after we leave the whole evil empire is going to collapse under the domino effect surely?
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And me too, unfortunatelyJosiasJessop said:
What a stupidly pants question.Sean_F said:
Do you work?Nigel_Foremain said:
oh dear, touched a nerve. I have added quite a number of insights relating to the constitution, correct understanding of how the EU works (contrary to people like you) and how the Conservative Party used to be before it was taken over by insanity. I believe in prosperity, the rule of law, and human decency, which is why I am vociferously opposed to fascism and puerile and divisive philosophies like Brexit, and I will continue to mock stupid posts like the one I previously commented on. If that makes me an unpleasant piece of work in your tiny mind I really couldn't give a shit, but you, mate, advocate a hateful divisive policy called Brexit, so take the beam out of your own eye. Now I ought to do some work!Casino_Royale said:
You really are an unpleasant piece of work, aren’t you?Nigel_Foremain said:
Said it before, but anyone that believes in something so mind numbingly puerile as Brexit accusing anyone else of childishness is ironic in the extreme. Go and read your war comic and stop trying to play with the grown-ups.CD13 said:The BoJo effect is confusing. Everyone on here seems to hate him, yet he seems popular in the polling. I look upon him as an amiable clown, and if he becomes PM, so what?
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.
I can’t think of a single post you’ve made that’s contributed anything to this site.
You don’t offer insight, perspective, humour, tips or analysis; you’re just an angry and rude keyboard ranter.
Do you work? Does Ms Free? Does Mr Meeks? Does it matter?
There are a whole host of commentators on here who write quality threaders and give many good comments despite holding down (sometimes rather hard) jobs.
And then there's me...
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What an appalling nickname to foist on an innocent child. Couldn't they just have eaten him, as Tories are supposed to do?Benpointer said:
Yeah Wiki says the same.TheScreamingEagles said:
I think they named him after the late father of Andrea Jenkyns.Benpointer said:
So he's really called Clifford? Not much better really is it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nickname.Theuniondivvie said:This raised a Platonic (PB version) wtf from me! Is their sprog really called Brexit?
https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/1139112671826108416
He was born the day Article 50 was triggered.
Edit: perhaps he should have been called Cliff-edge?
Edit - Here’s the linky
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/jack-lopresti-calls-son-brexit-1004677
I had to check because after posting I thought maybe 'Brexit Clifford' (Brexit Cliff-edge) was the nickname and the poor mite's real name was something more mundane.0 -
Re the Leadsom odds, one possible explanation is that somebody out there knows there is a story that will force Johnson out. In that case, she suddenly becomes a strong candidate - it would be her, Raab and McVey for the Brexit vote.0
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Oh come on, do you know nothing of baby eating? You have to fatten them up first.AlastairMeeks said:
What an appalling nickname to foist on an innocent child. Couldn't they just have eaten him, as Tories are supposed to do?Benpointer said:
Yeah Wiki says the same.TheScreamingEagles said:
I think they named him after the late father of Andrea Jenkyns.Benpointer said:
So he's really called Clifford? Not much better really is it.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nickname.Theuniondivvie said:This raised a Platonic (PB version) wtf from me! Is their sprog really called Brexit?
https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/1139112671826108416
He was born the day Article 50 was triggered.
Edit: perhaps he should have been called Cliff-edge?
Edit - Here’s the linky
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/jack-lopresti-calls-son-brexit-1004677
I had to check because after posting I thought maybe 'Brexit Clifford' (Brexit Cliff-edge) was the nickname and the poor mite's real name was something more mundane.2 -
Will there be a 100% turnout?rottenborough said:Ken Clarke, laid back as ever, just makes the deadline apparently to vote for Rory.
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I think so. All this 'No Deal' stuff is just to get the job.Stark_Dawning said:They absolutely will. That must be Boris's plan: revive Theresa's deal (possibly with some trivial 'amendments') then sit back as the joyous right-wing media/Tory party dance around the Boris maypole.
'Boris Bikes', 'Boris Island', 'Boris' this that & the other -
Next up, ratified sometime in 2020, a Boris Brexit.
Essentially the same as Theresa's May's Brexit but infinitely better because it has 'Boris' in front of it.0 -
May I just say re Stacey Dooley that David Lammy is a bigger arse than I thought possible. Thank you.0
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STOP WRITING0
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My Boris prediction -
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(Hastily checks to see if Leadsom or Johnson winning is my biggest red).TheKitchenCabinet said:Re the Leadsom odds, one possible explanation is that somebody out there knows there is a story that will force Johnson out. In that case, she suddenly becomes a strong candidate - it would be her, Raab and McVey for the Brexit vote.
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Disappointed you didn’t work in a ‘pulling out’ gag there.Theuniondivvie said:
Ah, an action with far reaching and unintended consequences.Sandpit said:
Was the circumstance not that he was married at the time, and his wife left him when she found out about the pregnancy?Theuniondivvie said:
I wonder if it was planned or accidental?Ishmael_Z said:
And quite conceivably conceived on EUref day. We all have our celebratory rituals.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nickname.Theuniondivvie said:This raised a Platonic (PB version) wtf from me! Is their sprog really called Brexit?
https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/1139112671826108416
He was born the day Article 50 was triggered.
'We weren't expecting this outcome but we're going to make a bloody good go of it. Brexit Clifford means Brexit Clifford!'0 -
I think for a lot of the Faragist and ERG loons Brexit alone isn’t actually enough. They see the EU as an enemy that has to be defeated. And defeat means the EU being forced to accept terms the UK has dictated. Because that will not happen they will always feel betrayed.nico67 said:One things for sure .
Brexit has caused other EU countries to think again about embarking on the same course of action .
Support for the EU has gone up , more Eurosceptic leaders now talk about staying in and making changes from within the EU not leaving .
For Leavers they won’t be getting any validation from another EU country , but they can of course run along to Trump to get given a little pat on the head !
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Mr. Root, is that a reference to the white saviour nonsense of a few months ago, or something new?0
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Illegitimate children?kinabalu said:My Boris prediction -
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that said I think that
It's a good article and no one should try to wriggle out of the fact that immigration has depressed the wages of the lowest-paid. Although over the period 1992 - 2017 wages of the lowest paid rose nearly 50% so the depression must be taken in context ( https://ft.com/content/797f7b42-bb44-11e8-94b2-17176fbf93f5 )isam said:
Happy to oblige!GIN1138 said:I'd like to see a thread header from @isam on the virtues of Brexit.
Oh and happy First Round Thursday PB
http://aboutasfarasdelgados.blogspot.com/2014/08/mass-immigration-stealth-tax-on-working.html
So what's my (gilded cage) view on it all? The orthodoxy is that low-skilled immigrants push the indigenous population up the labour value chain although there is a like-for-like skills match often. I think that as aggregate rather than per capita GDP grows then that gives the government more room to help those indigenous lower paid workers, in education, for example.0 -
Sound man as alwaysrottenborough said:Ken Clarke, laid back as ever, just makes the deadline apparently to vote for Rory.
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She should have run for the leadership.Theuniondivvie said:
I wonder if it was planned or accidental?Ishmael_Z said:
And quite conceivably conceived on EUref day. We all have our celebratory rituals.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nickname.Theuniondivvie said:This raised a Platonic (PB version) wtf from me! Is their sprog really called Brexit?
https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/1139112671826108416
He was born the day Article 50 was triggered.
'We weren't expecting this outcome but we're going to make a bloody good go of it. Brexit Clifford means Brexit Clifford!'
"I'm the only candidate with a proven record of delivering Brexit."3 -
Possibly an overlap, but the number of stories Gove's wife is trying to get in the Sunday papers....RochdalePioneers said:
Illegitimate children?kinabalu said:My Boris prediction -
118.0 -
Boris at his lowest yet? 1.370
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The average age of theedmundintokyo said:
The vague domino effect thing is another data point for the "Brexit is the Tory Vietnam" theoryBenpointer said:That can't be right - after we leave the whole evil empire is going to collapse under the domino effect surely?
UK voter was forty
[Chorus]
On Conhome, he was seventy two
On Conhome, he was seventy two
On Conhome, he was seventy two
On Conhome, he was seventy two
S-s-s-s-seventy two0 -
Nearly as big of an arse as the head of one of our few good charities, who panders to this racist nonsense.SquareRoot said:May I just say re Stacey Dooley that David Lammy is a bigger arse than I thought possible. Thank you.
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It was the most pointless work trip ever.Sandpit said:
Ah okay, so it will get tested in court then. That could be very awkward indeed for Mr Corbyn, not to mention very expensive to defend.Cyclefree said:
I thought it was a libel claim in relation to the comments made by Corbyn at a pro-Palestinian event where he talked about Jews lacking irony etc and at which the claimant, Richard Millett, was present.Sandpit said:
Is this going to do any better than the attempted dragging of Boris to court?Scott_P said:
Offensive speech certainly,
racist speech possibly,
incitement to violence no,
comments aimed at a specific individual no.
Did you enjoy NY (apart from the airport experience and having your speech cancelled)?
As Bogart should have put it: "Of all the buildings in all the world, it had to fall onto mine!"
Basically, I had two luxurious flights on Virgin Upper Class, ate two delicious meals in NY, met a friend, saw a good exhibition at the NY Public Library (about the 50th anniversary of Stonewall), sat in the park in the sunshine and wrote this header.
I nearly managed to lose both my phone and glasses on the flight and it was only the brilliance of the Virgin ladies that saved me from my own unexpected ditziness.
I am now pretty bloody tired. Flights never agree with me - what with my asthma and Protein Factor C deficiency which makes me prone to thrombosis (which I've had twice).
But I hope the event will be rearranged. And it provides material for a good story. 2 -
Gove's wife is one of those annoying people in life.MarqueeMark said:
Possibly an overlap, but the number of stories Gove's wife is trying to get in the Sunday papers....RochdalePioneers said:
Illegitimate children?kinabalu said:My Boris prediction -
118.0 -
Context?SquareRoot said:May I just say re Stacey Dooley that David Lammy is a bigger arse than I thought possible. Thank you.
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Read up about it on the bbc websiteBenpointer said:
Context?SquareRoot said:May I just say re Stacey Dooley that David Lammy is a bigger arse than I thought possible. Thank you.
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Did try, but all I could come out with was 'are you out yet?' which didn't really fit.TheScreamingEagles said:
Disappointed you didn’t work in a ‘pulling out’ gag there.Theuniondivvie said:
Ah, an action with far reaching and unintended consequences.Sandpit said:
Was the circumstance not that he was married at the time, and his wife left him when she found out about the pregnancy?Theuniondivvie said:
I wonder if it was planned or accidental?Ishmael_Z said:
And quite conceivably conceived on EUref day. We all have our celebratory rituals.TheScreamingEagles said:
Nickname.Theuniondivvie said:This raised a Platonic (PB version) wtf from me! Is their sprog really called Brexit?
https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/1139112671826108416
He was born the day Article 50 was triggered.
'We weren't expecting this outcome but we're going to make a bloody good go of it. Brexit Clifford means Brexit Clifford!'0 -
I hope Rory makes > 17 but equally am fully aware he has no chance.0
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He’s done himself no harm at all for a run next time though, even if he’s not what what’s been looked for at the moment.BannedInParis said:I hope Rory makes > 17 but equally am fully aware he has no chance.
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I'd be surprised if Boris clears 110. We should recall that in 2016 the undeclareds split fairly evenly amongst the candidates, perhaps reflecting that they were genuinely a bloc of undecideds. And while Boris might get more votes due to his frontrunner status, you can't curry favour by voting for someone in a secret ballot. And May was an even bigger frontrunner in 2016 by this stage, but she didn't gain hugely from the undeclared.
It might be different this time, for sure, I'm just saying that I (literally) wouldn't bet on it. 95-105 is my guess, and I'm on at Ladbrokes for 90-99 and 100+ brackets.0 -
Theuniondivvie said:
The average age of the
UK voter was forty
[Chorus]
On Conhome, he was seventy two
On Conhome, he was seventy two
On Conhome, he was seventy two
On Conhome, he was seventy two
S-s-s-s-seventy two
No Viet Cong ever called me Gammon.0 -
There doesn't seem to be anything new from Lammy, just more self exoneration (justified or not) from Dooley?SquareRoot said:
Read up about it on the bbc websiteBenpointer said:
Context?SquareRoot said:May I just say re Stacey Dooley that David Lammy is a bigger arse than I thought possible. Thank you.
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Ban it altogether?Casino_Royale said:STOP WRITING
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He is just the man to pick up the pieces when Boris's premiership detonates.Sandpit said:
He’s done himself no harm at all for a run next time though, even if he’s not what what’s been looked for at the moment.BannedInParis said:I hope Rory makes > 17 but equally am fully aware he has no chance.
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Mr. B2, bloody Mesopotamians and their fancy cuneiform.0
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Any odds on the number of votes cast for Boris in a secret ballot being fewer than the number of MPs who said publicly they voted for him?0
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You forgot Boris Bus!kinabalu said:
I think so. All this 'No Deal' stuff is just to get the job.Stark_Dawning said:They absolutely will. That must be Boris's plan: revive Theresa's deal (possibly with some trivial 'amendments') then sit back as the joyous right-wing media/Tory party dance around the Boris maypole.
'Boris Bikes', 'Boris Island', 'Boris' this that & the other -
Next up, ratified sometime in 2020, a Boris Brexit.
Essentially the same as Theresa's May's Brexit but infinitely better because it has 'Boris' in front of it.0 -
The average age of a person in the UK is about 40, but the average age of a voter would be a fair bit higher (as under 18s pull the average age of people in the UK down, but aren't voters).Theuniondivvie said:
The average age of theedmundintokyo said:
The vague domino effect thing is another data point for the "Brexit is the Tory Vietnam" theoryBenpointer said:That can't be right - after we leave the whole evil empire is going to collapse under the domino effect surely?
UK voter was forty
[Chorus]
On Conhome, he was seventy two
On Conhome, he was seventy two
On Conhome, he was seventy two
On Conhome, he was seventy two
S-s-s-s-seventy two
And if you mean actual voter rather than person eligible to vote, the average would be higher still (as older age groups are disproportionately likely to vote).0 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRJFvtvTGEkTheuniondivvie said:
The average age of theedmundintokyo said:
The vague domino effect thing is another data point for the "Brexit is the Tory Vietnam" theoryBenpointer said:That can't be right - after we leave the whole evil empire is going to collapse under the domino effect surely?
UK voter was forty
[Chorus]
On Conhome, he was seventy two
On Conhome, he was seventy two
On Conhome, he was seventy two
On Conhome, he was seventy two
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And Boris Bridge...Sunil_Prasannan said:
You forgot Boris Bus!kinabalu said:
I think so. All this 'No Deal' stuff is just to get the job.Stark_Dawning said:They absolutely will. That must be Boris's plan: revive Theresa's deal (possibly with some trivial 'amendments') then sit back as the joyous right-wing media/Tory party dance around the Boris maypole.
'Boris Bikes', 'Boris Island', 'Boris' this that & the other -
Next up, ratified sometime in 2020, a Boris Brexit.
Essentially the same as Theresa's May's Brexit but infinitely better because it has 'Boris' in front of it.0 -
Rory could lead the same breakaway when Boris splits the partySandpit said:
He’s done himself no harm at all for a run next time though, even if he’s not what what’s been looked for at the moment.BannedInParis said:I hope Rory makes > 17 but equally am fully aware he has no chance.
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