A so called true believer . Will the right wing press spin the smallest of concessions from the EU as a massive victory .
They’re desperate to say , there see it’s May the non believers fault we’re in this mess .
I despise Bozo but if anyone can spin not very much into something wonderful he can .
In terms of the backstop there’s possibly only one thing that can be done and something Katya Adler mentioned .
If you have a system whereby elements of the backstop fall away as alternative arrangements come in . Bozo could say there I’m confident we can do this . And spin it .
The BoJo effect is confusing. Everyone on here seems to hate him, yet he seems popular in the polling. I look upon him as an amiable clown, and if he becomes PM, so what?
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.
I'm not sure Leadsom can get 17 votes. She could be knocked out of the race in 2 hours and 10 minutes.
Morning all,
So in this contest, there's a minimum threshold of votes, not just the last-placed candidate obliged to withdraw?
Morning. That's correct, in the first round it's 5%, and 10% in all other rounds. Funny thing is that it's being reported that this will be 17 votes and 33 votes respectively, even though 5% of 313 is 15.65, so you'd think it would be 16 and 32.
True, there does not seem to be a plausible explanation as why our current home secretary Sajid Javid was not invited. It has a terrible smell of racism about it.
The BoJo effect is confusing. Everyone on here seems to hate him, yet he seems popular in the polling. I look upon him as an amiable clown, and if he becomes PM, so what?
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.
Said it before, but anyone that believes in something so mind numbingly puerile as Brexit accusing anyone else of childishness is ironic in the extreme. Go and read your war comic and stop trying to play with the grown-ups.
A so called true believer . Will the right wing press spin the smallest of concessions from the EU as a massive victory .
They’re desperate to say , there see it’s May the non believers fault we’re in this mess .
I despise Bozo but if anyone can spin not very much into something wonderful he can .
In terms of the backstop there’s possibly only one thing that can be done and something Katya Adler mentioned .
If you have a system whereby elements of the backstop fall away as alternative arrangements come in . Bozo could say there I’m confident we can do this . And spin it .
They absolutely will. That must be Boris's plan: revive Theresa's deal (possibly with some trivial 'amendments') then sit back as the joyous right-wing media/Tory party dance around the Boris maypole.
The BoJo effect is confusing. Everyone on here seems to hate him, yet he seems popular in the polling. I look upon him as an amiable clown, and if he becomes PM, so what?
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.
Said it before, but anyone that believes in something so mind numbingly puerile as Brexit accusing anyone else of childishness is ironic in the extreme. Go and read your war comic and stop trying to play with the grown-ups.
You really are an unpleasant piece of work, aren’t you?
I can’t think of a single post you’ve made that’s contributed anything to this site.
You don’t offer insight, perspective, humour, tips or analysis; you’re just an angry and rude keyboard ranter.
I'm not sure Leadsom can get 17 votes. She could be knocked out of the race in 2 hours and 10 minutes.
Morning all,
So in this contest, there's a minimum threshold of votes, not just the last-placed candidate obliged to withdraw?
Morning. That's correct, in the first round it's 5%, and 10% in all other rounds. Funny thing is that it's being reported that this will be 17 votes and 33 votes respectively, even though 5% of 313 is 15.65, so you'd think it would be 16 and 32.
The BoJo effect is confusing. Everyone on here seems to hate him, yet he seems popular in the polling. I look upon him as an amiable clown, and if he becomes PM, so what?
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.
Said it before, but anyone that believes in something so mind numbingly puerile as Brexit accusing anyone else of childishness is ironic in the extreme. Go and read your war comic and stop trying to play with the grown-ups.
You really are an unpleasant piece of work, aren’t you?
I can’t think of a single post you’ve made that’s contributed anything to this site.
You don’t offer insight, perspective, humour, tips or analysis; you’re just an angry and rude keyboard ranter.
I've never really got the argument that the modern Conservative Party is so extreme as to be beyond the pale, on the part of people who voted Conservative in the Seventies and Eighties, when you had MP's demanding repatriation or the recriminalisation of homosexuality.
I'm not sure Leadsom can get 17 votes. She could be knocked out of the race in 2 hours and 10 minutes.
Morning all,
So in this contest, there's a minimum threshold of votes, not just the last-placed candidate obliged to withdraw?
Morning. That's correct, in the first round it's 5%, and 10% in all other rounds. Funny thing is that it's being reported that this will be 17 votes and 33 votes respectively, even though 5% of 313 is 15.65, so you'd think it would be 16 and 32.
The talking heads are saying it is the 5%, 10% threshold plus the leadership contenders own vote. So 16 other MPs plus 1 own vote.
In response to @isam, I have written a number of headers since the referendum result which were more sympathetic to the Brexit position or to those who voted for it than you might suppose from my current views.
And if I've become more pro-Remain than I was then it's very largely because of the behaviour of so many of those pushing Brexit. That is something which they ought to reflect on. They have done very little to try and get a consensus about the way forward which will last. That is a shocking failure and pointing to the Remainers' similar failure in the past is no answer.
I'm not sure Leadsom can get 17 votes. She could be knocked out of the race in 2 hours and 10 minutes.
Morning all,
So in this contest, there's a minimum threshold of votes, not just the last-placed candidate obliged to withdraw?
Morning. That's correct, in the first round it's 5%, and 10% in all other rounds. Funny thing is that it's being reported that this will be 17 votes and 33 votes respectively, even though 5% of 313 is 15.65, so you'd think it would be 16 and 32.
The BoJo effect is confusing. Everyone on here seems to hate him, yet he seems popular in the polling. I look upon him as an amiable clown, and if he becomes PM, so what?
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.
Said it before, but anyone that believes in something so mind numbingly puerile as Brexit accusing anyone else of childishness is ironic in the extreme. Go and read your war comic and stop trying to play with the grown-ups.
You really are an unpleasant piece of work, aren’t you?
I can’t think of a single post you’ve made that’s contributed anything to this site.
You don’t offer insight, perspective, humour, tips or analysis; you’re just an angry and rude keyboard ranter.
Is this going to do any better than the attempted dragging of Boris to court?
Offensive speech certainly, racist speech possibly, incitement to violence no, comments aimed at a specific individual no.
I thought it was a libel claim in relation to the comments made by Corbyn at a pro-Palestinian event where he talked about Jews lacking irony etc and at which the claimant, Richard Millett, was present.
Brexit has caused other EU countries to think again about embarking on the same course of action .
Support for the EU has gone up , more Eurosceptic leaders now talk about staying in and making changes from within the EU not leaving .
For Leavers they won’t be getting any validation from another EU country , but they can of course run along to Trump to get given a little pat on the head !
The BoJo effect is confusing. Everyone on here seems to hate him, yet he seems popular in the polling. I look upon him as an amiable clown, and if he becomes PM, so what?
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.
Said it before, but anyone that believes in something so mind numbingly puerile as Brexit accusing anyone else of childishness is ironic in the extreme. Go and read your war comic and stop trying to play with the grown-ups.
You really are an unpleasant piece of work, aren’t you?
I can’t think of a single post you’ve made that’s contributed anything to this site.
You don’t offer insight, perspective, humour, tips or analysis; you’re just an angry and rude keyboard ranter.
oh dear, touched a nerve. I have added quite a number of insights relating to the constitution, correct understanding of how the EU works (contrary to people like you) and how the Conservative Party used to be before it was taken over by insanity. I believe in prosperity, the rule of law, and human decency, which is why I am vociferously opposed to fascism and puerile and divisive philosophies like Brexit, and I will continue to mock stupid posts like the one I previously commented on. If that makes me an unpleasant piece of work in your tiny mind I really couldn't give a shit, but you, mate, advocate a hateful divisive policy called Brexit, so take the beam out of your own eye. Now I ought to do some work!
The BoJo effect is confusing. Everyone on here seems to hate him, yet he seems popular in the polling. I look upon him as an amiable clown, and if he becomes PM, so what?
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.
Said it before, but anyone that believes in something so mind numbingly puerile as Brexit accusing anyone else of childishness is ironic in the extreme. Go and read your war comic and stop trying to play with the grown-ups.
You really are an unpleasant piece of work, aren’t you?
I can’t think of a single post you’ve made that’s contributed anything to this site.
You don’t offer insight, perspective, humour, tips or analysis; you’re just an angry and rude keyboard ranter.
oh dear, touched a nerve. I have added quite a number of insights relating to the constitution, correct understanding of how the EU works (contrary to people like you) and how the Conservative Party used to be before it was taken over by insanity. I believe in prosperity, the rule of law, and human decency, which is why I am vociferously opposed to fascism and puerile and divisive philosophies like Brexit, and I will continue to mock stupid posts like the one I previously commented on. If that makes me an unpleasant piece of work in your tiny mind I really couldn't give a shit, but you, mate, advocate a hateful divisive policy called Brexit, so take the beam out of your own eye. Now I ought to do some work!
The BoJo effect is confusing. Everyone on here seems to hate him, yet he seems popular in the polling. I look upon him as an amiable clown, and if he becomes PM, so what?
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.
Said it before, but anyone that believes in something so mind numbingly puerile as Brexit accusing anyone else of childishness is ironic in the extreme. Go and read your war comic and stop trying to play with the grown-ups.
You really are an unpleasant piece of work, aren’t you?
I can’t think of a single post you’ve made that’s contributed anything to this site.
You don’t offer insight, perspective, humour, tips or analysis; you’re just an angry and rude keyboard ranter.
oh dear, touched a nerve. I have added quite a number of insights relating to the constitution, correct understanding of how the EU works (contrary to people like you) and how the Conservative Party used to be before it was taken over by insanity. I believe in prosperity, the rule of law, and human decency, which is why I am vociferously opposed to fascism and puerile and divisive philosophies like Brexit, and I will continue to mock stupid posts like the one I previously commented on. If that makes me an unpleasant piece of work in your tiny mind I really couldn't give a shit, but you, mate, advocate a hateful divisive policy called Brexit, so take the beam out of your own eye. Now I ought to do some work!
I'm not sure Leadsom can get 17 votes. She could be knocked out of the race in 2 hours and 10 minutes.
Morning all,
So in this contest, there's a minimum threshold of votes, not just the last-placed candidate obliged to withdraw?
Morning. That's correct, in the first round it's 5%, and 10% in all other rounds. Funny thing is that it's being reported that this will be 17 votes and 33 votes respectively, even though 5% of 313 is 15.65, so you'd think it would be 16 and 32.
I'm not sure Leadsom can get 17 votes. She could be knocked out of the race in 2 hours and 10 minutes.
Morning all,
So in this contest, there's a minimum threshold of votes, not just the last-placed candidate obliged to withdraw?
Morning. That's correct, in the first round it's 5%, and 10% in all other rounds. Funny thing is that it's being reported that this will be 17 votes and 33 votes respectively, even though 5% of 313 is 15.65, so you'd think it would be 16 and 32.
The talking heads are saying it is the 5%, 10% threshold plus the leadership contenders own vote. So 16 other MPs plus 1 own vote.
Thanks, will be interesting to see how many survive beyond 1pm!
Fun fact in 2016 was that Theresa May won an outright majority (just about!) in the first ballot, given Dave abstained.
I had to check because after posting I thought maybe 'Brexit Clifford' (Brexit Cliff-edge) was the nickname and the poor mite's real name was something more mundane.
Is this going to do any better than the attempted dragging of Boris to court?
Offensive speech certainly, racist speech possibly, incitement to violence no, comments aimed at a specific individual no.
I thought it was a libel claim in relation to the comments made by Corbyn at a pro-Palestinian event where he talked about Jews lacking irony etc and at which the claimant, Richard Millett, was present.
Ah okay, so it will get tested in court then. That could be very awkward indeed for Mr Corbyn, not to mention very expensive to defend.
Did you enjoy NY (apart from the airport experience and having your speech cancelled)?
Brexit has caused other EU countries to think again about embarking on the same course of action .
Support for the EU has gone up , more Eurosceptic leaders now talk about staying in and making changes from within the EU not leaving .
For Leavers they won’t be getting any validation from another EU country , but they can of course run along to Trump to get given a little pat on the head !
That can't be right - after we leave the whole evil empire is going to collapse under the domino effect surely?
Brexit has caused other EU countries to think again about embarking on the same course of action .
Support for the EU has gone up , more Eurosceptic leaders now talk about staying in and making changes from within the EU not leaving .
For Leavers they won’t be getting any validation from another EU country , but they can of course run along to Trump to get given a little pat on the head !
Trump's a bit unpredictable though. I can imagine him suddenly deciding that EU membership is quite cool after all and tweeting accordingly. That would then only leave us with Vlad and Tony Abbott.
The BoJo effect is confusing. Everyone on here seems to hate him, yet he seems popular in the polling. I look upon him as an amiable clown, and if he becomes PM, so what?
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.
Said it before, but anyone that believes in something so mind numbingly puerile as Brexit accusing anyone else of childishness is ironic in the extreme. Go and read your war comic and stop trying to play with the grown-ups.
You really are an unpleasant piece of work, aren’t you?
I can’t think of a single post you’ve made that’s contributed anything to this site.
You don’t offer insight, perspective, humour, tips or analysis; you’re just an angry and rude keyboard ranter.
oh dear, touched a nerve. I have added quite a number of insights relating to the constitution, correct understanding of how the EU works (contrary to people like you) and how the Conservative Party used to be before it was taken over by insanity. I believe in prosperity, the rule of law, and human decency, which is why I am vociferously opposed to fascism and puerile and divisive philosophies like Brexit, and I will continue to mock stupid posts like the one I previously commented on. If that makes me an unpleasant piece of work in your tiny mind I really couldn't give a shit, but you, mate, advocate a hateful divisive policy called Brexit, so take the beam out of your own eye. Now I ought to do some work!
Do you work?
What a stupidly pants question.
Do you work? Does Ms Free? Does Mr Meeks? Does it matter?
There are a whole host of commentators on here who write quality threaders and give many good comments despite holding down (sometimes rather hard) jobs.
The BoJo effect is confusing. Everyone on here seems to hate him, yet he seems popular in the polling. I look upon him as an amiable clown, and if he becomes PM, so what?
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.
Said it before, but anyone that believes in something so mind numbingly puerile as Brexit accusing anyone else of childishness is ironic in the extreme. Go and read your war comic and stop trying to play with the grown-ups.
You really are an unpleasant piece of work, aren’t you?
I can’t think of a single post you’ve made that’s contributed anything to this site.
You don’t offer insight, perspective, humour, tips or analysis; you’re just an angry and rude keyboard ranter.
oh dear, touched a nerve. I have added quite a number of insights relating to the constitution, correct understanding of how the EU works (contrary to people like you) and how the Conservative Party used to be before it was taken over by insanity. I believe in prosperity, the rule of law, and human decency, which is why I am vociferously opposed to fascism and puerile and divisive philosophies like Brexit, and I will continue to mock stupid posts like the one I previously commented on. If that makes me an unpleasant piece of work in your tiny mind I really couldn't give a shit, but you, mate, advocate a hateful divisive policy called Brexit, so take the beam out of your own eye. Now I ought to do some work!
Do you work?
What a stupidly pants question.
Do you work? Does Ms Free? Does Mr Meeks? Does it matter?
There are a whole host of commentators on here who write quality threaders and give many good comments despite holding down (sometimes rather hard) jobs.
The BoJo effect is confusing. Everyone on here seems to hate him, yet he seems popular in the polling. I look upon him as an amiable clown, and if he becomes PM, so what?
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.
Said it before, but anyone that believes in something so mind numbingly puerile as Brexit accusing anyone else of childishness is ironic in the extreme. Go and read your war comic and stop trying to play with the grown-ups.
You really are an unpleasant piece of work, aren’t you?
I can’t think of a single post you’ve made that’s contributed anything to this site.
You don’t offer insight, perspective, humour, tips or analysis; you’re just an angry and rude keyboard ranter.
oh dear, touched a nerve. I have added quite a number of insights relating to the constitution, correct understanding of how the EU works (contrary to people like you) and how the Conservative Party used to be before it was taken over by insanity. I believe in prosperity, the rule of law, and human decency, which is why I am vociferously opposed to fascism and puerile and divisive philosophies like Brexit, and I will continue to mock stupid posts like the one I previously commented on. If that makes me an unpleasant piece of work in your tiny mind I really couldn't give a shit, but you, mate, advocate a hateful divisive policy called Brexit, so take the beam out of your own eye. Now I ought to do some work!
Do you work?
What a stupidly pants question.
Do you work? Does Ms Free? Does Mr Meeks? Does it matter?
There are a whole host of commentators on here who write quality threaders and give many good comments despite holding down (sometimes rather hard) jobs.
I had to check because after posting I thought maybe 'Brexit Clifford' (Brexit Cliff-edge) was the nickname and the poor mite's real name was something more mundane.
What an appalling nickname to foist on an innocent child. Couldn't they just have eaten him, as Tories are supposed to do?
Re the Leadsom odds, one possible explanation is that somebody out there knows there is a story that will force Johnson out. In that case, she suddenly becomes a strong candidate - it would be her, Raab and McVey for the Brexit vote.
I had to check because after posting I thought maybe 'Brexit Clifford' (Brexit Cliff-edge) was the nickname and the poor mite's real name was something more mundane.
What an appalling nickname to foist on an innocent child. Couldn't they just have eaten him, as Tories are supposed to do?
Oh come on, do you know nothing of baby eating? You have to fatten them up first.
They absolutely will. That must be Boris's plan: revive Theresa's deal (possibly with some trivial 'amendments') then sit back as the joyous right-wing media/Tory party dance around the Boris maypole.
I think so. All this 'No Deal' stuff is just to get the job.
'Boris Bikes', 'Boris Island', 'Boris' this that & the other -
Next up, ratified sometime in 2020, a Boris Brexit.
Essentially the same as Theresa's May's Brexit but infinitely better because it has 'Boris' in front of it.
Re the Leadsom odds, one possible explanation is that somebody out there knows there is a story that will force Johnson out. In that case, she suddenly becomes a strong candidate - it would be her, Raab and McVey for the Brexit vote.
(Hastily checks to see if Leadsom or Johnson winning is my biggest red).
Brexit has caused other EU countries to think again about embarking on the same course of action .
Support for the EU has gone up , more Eurosceptic leaders now talk about staying in and making changes from within the EU not leaving .
For Leavers they won’t be getting any validation from another EU country , but they can of course run along to Trump to get given a little pat on the head !
I think for a lot of the Faragist and ERG loons Brexit alone isn’t actually enough. They see the EU as an enemy that has to be defeated. And defeat means the EU being forced to accept terms the UK has dictated. Because that will not happen they will always feel betrayed.
It's a good article and no one should try to wriggle out of the fact that immigration has depressed the wages of the lowest-paid. Although over the period 1992 - 2017 wages of the lowest paid rose nearly 50% so the depression must be taken in context ( https://ft.com/content/797f7b42-bb44-11e8-94b2-17176fbf93f5 )
So what's my (gilded cage) view on it all? The orthodoxy is that low-skilled immigrants push the indigenous population up the labour value chain although there is a like-for-like skills match often. I think that as aggregate rather than per capita GDP grows then that gives the government more room to help those indigenous lower paid workers, in education, for example.
That can't be right - after we leave the whole evil empire is going to collapse under the domino effect surely?
The vague domino effect thing is another data point for the "Brexit is the Tory Vietnam" theory
The average age of the UK voter was forty
[Chorus] On Conhome, he was seventy two On Conhome, he was seventy two On Conhome, he was seventy two On Conhome, he was seventy two S-s-s-s-seventy two
Is this going to do any better than the attempted dragging of Boris to court?
Offensive speech certainly, racist speech possibly, incitement to violence no, comments aimed at a specific individual no.
I thought it was a libel claim in relation to the comments made by Corbyn at a pro-Palestinian event where he talked about Jews lacking irony etc and at which the claimant, Richard Millett, was present.
Ah okay, so it will get tested in court then. That could be very awkward indeed for Mr Corbyn, not to mention very expensive to defend.
Did you enjoy NY (apart from the airport experience and having your speech cancelled)?
It was the most pointless work trip ever.
As Bogart should have put it: "Of all the buildings in all the world, it had to fall onto mine!"
Basically, I had two luxurious flights on Virgin Upper Class, ate two delicious meals in NY, met a friend, saw a good exhibition at the NY Public Library (about the 50th anniversary of Stonewall), sat in the park in the sunshine and wrote this header.
I nearly managed to lose both my phone and glasses on the flight and it was only the brilliance of the Virgin ladies that saved me from my own unexpected ditziness.
I am now pretty bloody tired. Flights never agree with me - what with my asthma and Protein Factor C deficiency which makes me prone to thrombosis (which I've had twice).
But I hope the event will be rearranged. And it provides material for a good story.
I'd be surprised if Boris clears 110. We should recall that in 2016 the undeclareds split fairly evenly amongst the candidates, perhaps reflecting that they were genuinely a bloc of undecideds. And while Boris might get more votes due to his frontrunner status, you can't curry favour by voting for someone in a secret ballot. And May was an even bigger frontrunner in 2016 by this stage, but she didn't gain hugely from the undeclared.
It might be different this time, for sure, I'm just saying that I (literally) wouldn't bet on it. 95-105 is my guess, and I'm on at Ladbrokes for 90-99 and 100+ brackets.
[Chorus] On Conhome, he was seventy two On Conhome, he was seventy two On Conhome, he was seventy two On Conhome, he was seventy two S-s-s-s-seventy two
How will those who constantly advised us lay Boris at 5/1 and bigger over the last two years apologise to @HYUFD for the snarky comments they threw at him when he begged to differ?
They absolutely will. That must be Boris's plan: revive Theresa's deal (possibly with some trivial 'amendments') then sit back as the joyous right-wing media/Tory party dance around the Boris maypole.
I think so. All this 'No Deal' stuff is just to get the job.
'Boris Bikes', 'Boris Island', 'Boris' this that & the other -
Next up, ratified sometime in 2020, a Boris Brexit.
Essentially the same as Theresa's May's Brexit but infinitely better because it has 'Boris' in front of it.
That can't be right - after we leave the whole evil empire is going to collapse under the domino effect surely?
The vague domino effect thing is another data point for the "Brexit is the Tory Vietnam" theory
The average age of the UK voter was forty
[Chorus] On Conhome, he was seventy two On Conhome, he was seventy two On Conhome, he was seventy two On Conhome, he was seventy two S-s-s-s-seventy two
The average age of a person in the UK is about 40, but the average age of a voter would be a fair bit higher (as under 18s pull the average age of people in the UK down, but aren't voters).
And if you mean actual voter rather than person eligible to vote, the average would be higher still (as older age groups are disproportionately likely to vote).
That can't be right - after we leave the whole evil empire is going to collapse under the domino effect surely?
The vague domino effect thing is another data point for the "Brexit is the Tory Vietnam" theory
The average age of the UK voter was forty
[Chorus] On Conhome, he was seventy two On Conhome, he was seventy two On Conhome, he was seventy two On Conhome, he was seventy two S-s-s-s-seventy two
They absolutely will. That must be Boris's plan: revive Theresa's deal (possibly with some trivial 'amendments') then sit back as the joyous right-wing media/Tory party dance around the Boris maypole.
I think so. All this 'No Deal' stuff is just to get the job.
'Boris Bikes', 'Boris Island', 'Boris' this that & the other -
Next up, ratified sometime in 2020, a Boris Brexit.
Essentially the same as Theresa's May's Brexit but infinitely better because it has 'Boris' in front of it.
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https://twitter.com/amessd_southend/status/1139103584317071361
A so called true believer . Will the right wing press spin the smallest of concessions from the EU as a massive victory .
They’re desperate to say , there see it’s May the non believers fault we’re in this mess .
I despise Bozo but if anyone can spin not very much into something wonderful he can .
In terms of the backstop there’s possibly only one thing that can be done and something Katya Adler mentioned .
If you have a system whereby elements of the backstop fall away as alternative arrangements come in . Bozo could say there I’m confident we can do this . And spin it .
PMs are figureheads, like the POTUS. They need to pick the right people to do the jobs, not try to do it themselves.
You only know how they'll go when they do the job.
One up-side of the Brexit log-jam is the rose-tinted spectacles worn by some Remainers need a polish. They are looking after number one, and will always do so. On their terms. The 'if we're nice to them and give way' hope that they'll respond is childish.
Sajid Javid omitted from the Trump dinner in 2019.
Key difference (other than the obvious) - the first abomination was reversed.
https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/1139112671826108416
It has a terrible smell of racism about it.
If your analysis is rational: hold your nerve.
Offensive speech certainly,
racist speech possibly,
incitement to violence no,
comments aimed at a specific individual no.
He was born the day Article 50 was triggered.
I can’t think of a single post you’ve made that’s contributed anything to this site.
You don’t offer insight, perspective, humour, tips or analysis; you’re just an angry and rude keyboard ranter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Jenkyns
Edit: perhaps he should have been called Cliff-edge?
See here -
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/07/12/uniting-the-country/
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/08/18/cyclefree-on-the-perils-of-hubris/
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/09/30/a-new-settlement-for-europe/
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/10/14/cyclefree-with-a-mischievous-suggestion/
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/05/07/terms-of-endearment/
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2018/05/28/taking-back-control/
And if I've become more pro-Remain than I was then it's very largely because of the behaviour of so many of those pushing Brexit. That is something which they ought to reflect on. They have done very little to try and get a consensus about the way forward which will last. That is a shocking failure and pointing to the Remainers' similar failure in the past is no answer.
Brexit has caused other EU countries to think again about embarking on the same course of action .
Support for the EU has gone up , more Eurosceptic leaders now talk about staying in and making changes from within the EU not leaving .
For Leavers they won’t be getting any validation from another EU country , but they can of course run along to Trump to get given a little pat on the head !
Edit - Here’s the linky
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/jack-lopresti-calls-son-brexit-1004677
Thanks, will be interesting to see how many survive beyond 1pm!
Fun fact in 2016 was that Theresa May won an outright majority (just about!) in the first ballot, given Dave abstained.
I had to check because after posting I thought maybe 'Brexit Clifford' (Brexit Cliff-edge) was the nickname and the poor mite's real name was something more mundane.
Did you enjoy NY (apart from the airport experience and having your speech cancelled)?
'We weren't expecting this outcome but we're going to make a bloody good go of it. Brexit Clifford means Brexit Clifford!'
Do you work? Does Ms Free? Does Mr Meeks? Does it matter?
There are a whole host of commentators on here who write quality threaders and give many good comments despite holding down (sometimes rather hard) jobs.
And then there's me...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4440892/Tory-MP-Jack-Lopresti-facing-deselection-calls.html
'Boris Bikes', 'Boris Island', 'Boris' this that & the other -
Next up, ratified sometime in 2020, a Boris Brexit.
Essentially the same as Theresa's May's Brexit but infinitely better because it has 'Boris' in front of it.
118.
So what's my (gilded cage) view on it all? The orthodoxy is that low-skilled immigrants push the indigenous population up the labour value chain although there is a like-for-like skills match often. I think that as aggregate rather than per capita GDP grows then that gives the government more room to help those indigenous lower paid workers, in education, for example.
"I'm the only candidate with a proven record of delivering Brexit."
UK voter was forty
[Chorus]
On Conhome, he was seventy two
On Conhome, he was seventy two
On Conhome, he was seventy two
On Conhome, he was seventy two
S-s-s-s-seventy two
As Bogart should have put it: "Of all the buildings in all the world, it had to fall onto mine!"
Basically, I had two luxurious flights on Virgin Upper Class, ate two delicious meals in NY, met a friend, saw a good exhibition at the NY Public Library (about the 50th anniversary of Stonewall), sat in the park in the sunshine and wrote this header.
I nearly managed to lose both my phone and glasses on the flight and it was only the brilliance of the Virgin ladies that saved me from my own unexpected ditziness.
I am now pretty bloody tired. Flights never agree with me - what with my asthma and Protein Factor C deficiency which makes me prone to thrombosis (which I've had twice).
But I hope the event will be rearranged. And it provides material for a good story.
It might be different this time, for sure, I'm just saying that I (literally) wouldn't bet on it. 95-105 is my guess, and I'm on at Ladbrokes for 90-99 and 100+ brackets.
No Viet Cong ever called me Gammon.
And if you mean actual voter rather than person eligible to vote, the average would be higher still (as older age groups are disproportionately likely to vote).