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The narrative at the moment is all about how appallingly the Tories will do in the Euro elections on May 23rd. Almost no threads appear on PB these without some new prediction of the impending disaster. But are we overstating this? I think that we might be
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@AlastairMeeks - This isn’t you is it ?
AA Gill Memorial Prize - Pinsent Masons solicitor
"London lunches are good, in Glasgow I'd rather eat shavings from a ped egg."
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Loving the fact that you posted that under a pseudonym.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Is the problem that Huawei lets the Chinese spy on us, or that it doesn't let the Americans spy on us? I always work on the assumption that someone could read all my electronic communications if they wanted to, and it doesn't bother me personally as I am not doing anything anyone would be interested in. (typed on a Huawei phone).JosiasJessop said:
Whilst I share your concerns, the US are not exactly disinterested parties in this, in several ways.FrancisUrquhart said:
Seconded....while the leak is incredibly serious, it is overshadowing the fact the government are willing to go with them, despite serious warnings from the likes of the US.Cyclefree said:
What bothers me more is the decision to invite the Chinese into our telecoms infrastructure.rottenborough said:I noted the other day that this story could build and become very serious for someone in government:
https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/11216602076191621180 -
UKIP was always a colossal lay in the Newport West market. The Brexit party is not in the euros. THe FPTP distribution of the Brexit parties votes in particular will shit both parties up.0
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Wasn't Hamilton being the UKIP candidate a factor? He's marmite without the love component.0
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I had not realised that Gordon Pollock QC had died. He was one hell of a barrister. I worked with him years ago on a couple of cases. A ferocious intellect and utterly fearless.TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
@AlastairMeeks - This isn’t you is it ?
AA Gill Memorial Prize - Pinsent Masons solicitor
"London lunches are good, in Glasgow I'd rather eat shavings from a ped egg."
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He’s only saying that because he’s got a Tory leadership contest to win.williamglenn said:0 -
Trouble at t’ mill for the TIG/CUK/RA/whatever
Founder of their activist network quits;
https://www.twitter.com/thetimes/status/11217029693916897280 -
F1 farce in Baku, as first session abandoned after a manhole cover lifted on the track, causing damage to two cars.0
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As if I'd eat in the staff canteen.TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
@AlastairMeeks - This isn’t you is it ?
AA Gill Memorial Prize - Pinsent Masons solicitor
"London lunches are good, in Glasgow I'd rather eat shavings from a ped egg."
https://www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/firm-year-2019-best-comment-awards
(I suspect that comment was from a Glasgow solicitor.)
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Corbyn’s a fan of manhole covers.Sandpit said:F1 farce in Baku, as first session abandoned after a manhole cover lifted on the track, causing damage to two cars.
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Yes, and then after winning the leadership contest, he'll have Tory MPs/activists to keep happy...TheScreamingEagles said:
He’s only saying that because he’s got a Tory leadership contest to win.williamglenn said:0 -
The people prepared to quit the established parties for a new party have self-selected to be a group of people with little tolerance or patience for reality falling short of perfection.brokenwheel said:Trouble at t’ mill for the TIG/CUK/RA/whatever
Founder of their activist network quits;
https://www.twitter.com/thetimes/status/1121702969391689728
Some level of discord would seem to be inevitable.0 -
He is having a free to air personal meltdown.brokenwheel said:Trouble at t’ mill for the TIG/CUK/RA/whatever
Founder of their activist network quits;
https://www.twitter.com/thetimes/status/1121702969391689728
https://twitter.com/DanHeley1?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
Also fair to point out that the evidence, looking at TIG's progress, suggests he wasn't terribly good at founding activist networks.0 -
Good to see at least one of the Cabinet realise that we are going to end up with that binary choice.williamglenn said:0 -
Mr. Sandpit, weird. Although something similar happened somewhere else. Maybe Monaco?0
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Still a Remainer then.williamglenn said:0 -
Na, Friday is jam day.TheScreamingEagles said:
Corbyn’s a fan of manhole covers.Sandpit said:F1 farce in Baku, as first session abandoned after a manhole cover lifted on the track, causing damage to two cars.
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On the plus-side, they've got UKIP's endorsement:brokenwheel said:Trouble at t’ mill for the TIG/CUK/RA/whatever
Founder of their activist network quits;
https://www.twitter.com/thetimes/status/1121702969391689728
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There was a time, not so many years ago, when politicians understood that the national interest was more important than, and could conflict with, their own personal career interests.TheScreamingEagles said:
He’s only saying that because he’s got a Tory leadership contest to win.williamglenn said:
There are still a few such in the Tory Party, but none are in the Cabinet.
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With foreboding I had to look up what a ped egg is.TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
@AlastairMeeks - This isn’t you is it ?
AA Gill Memorial Prize - Pinsent Masons solicitor
"London lunches are good, in Glasgow I'd rather eat shavings from a ped egg."
https://www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/firm-year-2019-best-comment-awards
Deep fried they'd be fine.0 -
On topic, it will be a good test of the extent of bovine loyalty to the Conservative party. It's hard to identify a single reason to vote for the Conservatives in the EU elections no matter what your political perspective. So we shall get to see the pure and inalienable Conservative vote.0
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The only reason to vote Tory since 1997 has been to try and keep Labour out. Given the total muppets in the current parliamentary party and in Gov in particular, that reason no longer seems so compelling notwithstanding the absolutely disgusting nature of Corbyn’s Labour.0
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If we assume the Brexit Party are overstated then does that make it a close three-way battle for the win between Labour, Conservative and Farage?
My Lib Dem step-mother is spitting nails at the thought that Remain voters will vote Labour (that set includes my Dad).0 -
It’s happened in Monaco before, and also in Malaysia, where a drain lifted on a permanent track. It’s because the cars have so much downforce generated under the car, they literally suck up anything not properly welded down.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Sandpit, weird. Although something similar happened somewhere else. Maybe Monaco?
By the way, my first tip for this weekend is Leclerc for his maiden win, currently 4.5 on Betfair. He loves the place and won several times here in F2.0 -
Whilst Ishmael_Z is very happy for his friends, family and employers to know his inner political thoughts....Ishmael_Z said:
Loving the fact that you posted that under a pseudonym.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Is the problem that Huawei lets the Chinese spy on us, or that it doesn't let the Americans spy on us? I always work on the assumption that someone could read all my electronic communications if they wanted to, and it doesn't bother me personally as I am not doing anything anyone would be interested in. (typed on a Huawei phone).JosiasJessop said:
Whilst I share your concerns, the US are not exactly disinterested parties in this, in several ways.FrancisUrquhart said:
Seconded....while the leak is incredibly serious, it is overshadowing the fact the government are willing to go with them, despite serious warnings from the likes of the US.Cyclefree said:
What bothers me more is the decision to invite the Chinese into our telecoms infrastructure.rottenborough said:I noted the other day that this story could build and become very serious for someone in government:
https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/11216602076191621180 -
If you are in favour of a negotiated Brexit who else would you vote for?AlastairMeeks said:On topic, it will be a good test of the extent of bovine loyalty to the Conservative party. It's hard to identify a single reason to vote for the Conservatives in the EU elections no matter what your political perspective. So we shall get to see the pure and inalienable Conservative vote.
Surely the Conservative vote is a proxy for support for May's Deal?0 -
That’s why I’m voting Tory in the Euros.OblitusSumMe said:
If you are in favour of a negotiated Brexit who else would you vote for?AlastairMeeks said:On topic, it will be a good test of the extent of bovine loyalty to the Conservative party. It's hard to identify a single reason to vote for the Conservatives in the EU elections no matter what your political perspective. So we shall get to see the pure and inalienable Conservative vote.
Surely the Conservative vote is a proxy for support for May's Deal?0 -
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For the EU elections, probably around 15%?AlastairMeeks said:On topic, it will be a good test of the extent of bovine loyalty to the Conservative party. It's hard to identify a single reason to vote for the Conservatives in the EU elections no matter what your political perspective. So we shall get to see the pure and inalienable Conservative vote.
I don’t think any candidate except Dan Hannan (#1 in an 11-seat region) thinks they are safe.0 -
Do the funky bunch know yours ?MarqueeMark said:
Whilst Ishmael_Z is very happy for his friends, family and employers to know his inner political thoughts....Ishmael_Z said:
Loving the fact that you posted that under a pseudonym.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Is the problem that Huawei lets the Chinese spy on us, or that it doesn't let the Americans spy on us? I always work on the assumption that someone could read all my electronic communications if they wanted to, and it doesn't bother me personally as I am not doing anything anyone would be interested in. (typed on a Huawei phone).JosiasJessop said:
Whilst I share your concerns, the US are not exactly disinterested parties in this, in several ways.FrancisUrquhart said:
Seconded....while the leak is incredibly serious, it is overshadowing the fact the government are willing to go with them, despite serious warnings from the likes of the US.Cyclefree said:
What bothers me more is the decision to invite the Chinese into our telecoms infrastructure.rottenborough said:I noted the other day that this story could build and become very serious for someone in government:
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Labours leaflet silliness has the potential to badly affect their euro vote. I'm increasingly of the opinion both the big two will be in the teens. Brexit to win imo on ca 25%, change, ld and green to be in the 7 to 11 range0
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They would seem to be the obvious party to vote for if you favour the Deal.AlastairMeeks said:On topic, it will be a good test of the extent of bovine loyalty to the Conservative party. It's hard to identify a single reason to vote for the Conservatives in the EU elections no matter what your political perspective. So we shall get to see the pure and inalienable Conservative vote.
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I think 25 is a bit on the low end.dyedwoolie said:Labours leaflet silliness has the potential to badly affect their euro vote. I'm increasingly of the opinion both the big two will be in the teens. Brexit to win imo on ca 25%, change, ld and green to be in the 7 to 11 range
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Well, yes, but I'm not the one claiming that "I always work on the assumption that someone could read all my electronic communications if they wanted to, and it doesn't bother me personally as I am not doing anything anyone would be interested in", am I?MarqueeMark said:
Whilst Ishmael_Z is very happy for his friends, family and employers to know his inner political thoughts....Ishmael_Z said:
Loving the fact that you posted that under a pseudonym.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Is the problem that Huawei lets the Chinese spy on us, or that it doesn't let the Americans spy on us? I always work on the assumption that someone could read all my electronic communications if they wanted to, and it doesn't bother me personally as I am not doing anything anyone would be interested in. (typed on a Huawei phone).JosiasJessop said:
Whilst I share your concerns, the US are not exactly disinterested parties in this, in several ways.FrancisUrquhart said:
Seconded....while the leak is incredibly serious, it is overshadowing the fact the government are willing to go with them, despite serious warnings from the likes of the US.Cyclefree said:
What bothers me more is the decision to invite the Chinese into our telecoms infrastructure.rottenborough said:I noted the other day that this story could build and become very serious for someone in government:
https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1121660207619162118
I'd also expect you of all people to be aware that _Z is a very old Devon surname.0 -
Mr. Sandpit, odds a little short, and accidents happen easily. What are his pole odds?
If I were backing a top dog to do well I'd probably be keener on qualifying bets.0 -
Possibly but I think with 7 parties all hoping to secure at least 1 mep theres limited numbers to play with. If brexit are much north of 25 I think its going to be existentially horrific for the ToriesRobD said:
I think 25 is a bit on the low end.dyedwoolie said:Labours leaflet silliness has the potential to badly affect their euro vote. I'm increasingly of the opinion both the big two will be in the teens. Brexit to win imo on ca 25%, change, ld and green to be in the 7 to 11 range
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Chucka's just not up to it... Time for Heidi to unleash her inner Tory, push him under the proverbial bus and take back control for herself.brokenwheel said:Trouble at t’ mill for the TIG/CUK/RA/whatever
Founder of their activist network quits;
https://www.twitter.com/thetimes/status/1121702969391689728
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What I can't understand is why Lord Adonis agreed to that ridiculous statement. He should have stood his ground - they knew his views when he was selected as an MEP candidate. He would have done far better to stick to his principles even if he was deselected.dyedwoolie said:Labours leaflet silliness has the potential to badly affect their euro vote. I'm increasingly of the opinion both the big two will be in the teens. Brexit to win imo on ca 25%, change, ld and green to be in the 7 to 11 range
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No Leaver is going to trust Hunt. He’s always blown with the wind and what he did to the junior doctors shows he’s totally self serving and untrustworthy.williamglenn said:0 -
He showed he was a true Thatcherite as he put a trade union in its place.AmpfieldAndy said:
No Leaver is going to trust Hunt. He’s always blown with the wind and what he did to the junior doctors shows he’s totally self serving and untrustworthy.williamglenn said:0 -
Williams have a history with Baku drain covers:Sandpit said:
It’s happened in Monaco before, and also in Malaysia, where a drain lifted on a permanent track. It’s because the cars have so much downforce generated under the car, they literally suck up anything not properly welded down.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Sandpit, weird. Although something similar happened somewhere else. Maybe Monaco?
By the way, my first tip for this weekend is Leclerc for his maiden win, currently 4.5 on Betfair. He loves the place and won several times here in F2.
https://www.foxsports.com/motor/story/f1-baku-williams-valtteri-bottas-drain-cover-061816
Idiotic that they’re still not properly welded down after the numerous incidents over the last few years.0 -
Hunt was astute. Having won his pyrrhic victory over the juniors, he quietly abandoned plans to bugger us seniors about. Rota gaps abound.TheScreamingEagles said:
He showed he was a true Thatcherite as he put a trade union in its place.AmpfieldAndy said:
No Leaver is going to trust Hunt. He’s always blown with the wind and what he did to the junior doctors shows he’s totally self serving and untrustworthy.williamglenn said:0 -
Certainly but I have had extensive dealings with the office of one of the leading TIGs and I have to say they were the most arrogant, insensitive and high-handed bunch I have ever had the misfortune to encounter. Quite unable to understand that not everyone believed that the sun shone out of their boss's nether regions and impervious to any criticism or suggestion from those outside the charmed circle (most of whom had no experience of politics outside the Palace of Westminster). Those people probably wrote the paper dissing the Lib Dems, they will never be able to form a broad-based political party.OblitusSumMe said:
The people prepared to quit the established parties for a new party have self-selected to be a group of people with little tolerance or patience for reality falling short of perfection.brokenwheel said:Trouble at t’ mill for the TIG/CUK/RA/whatever
Founder of their activist network quits;
https://www.twitter.com/thetimes/status/1121702969391689728
Some level of discord would seem to be inevitable.0 -
TheScreamingEagles said:
That’s why I’m voting Tory in the Euros.OblitusSumMe said:
If you are in favour of a negotiated Brexit who else would you vote for?AlastairMeeks said:On topic, it will be a good test of the extent of bovine loyalty to the Conservative party. It's hard to identify a single reason to vote for the Conservatives in the EU elections no matter what your political perspective. So we shall get to see the pure and inalienable Conservative vote.
Surely the Conservative vote is a proxy for support for May's Deal?
Certainly more rational than voting for Farage’s Brexit ‘to give the government a nudge’.
But nothing around Brexit is rational any more.0 -
Its indicative of the deep division in labour between the old left/current leadership leavers and the centre left remain majority. It's as ridiculous a coalition as the Tories. Both deserve an utter drubbingAlastairMeeks said:
What I can't understand is why Lord Adonis agreed to that ridiculous statement. He should have stood his ground - they knew his views when he was selected as an MEP candidate. He would have done far better to stick to his principles even if he was deselected.dyedwoolie said:Labours leaflet silliness has the potential to badly affect their euro vote. I'm increasingly of the opinion both the big two will be in the teens. Brexit to win imo on ca 25%, change, ld and green to be in the 7 to 11 range
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There is nothing Thatcherite about Hunt - at all. Nothing Thatcherite about this Tory Party sadly. Try running a health service without doctors. Thatcher was smart enough not to try.TheScreamingEagles said:
He showed he was a true Thatcherite as he put a trade union in its place.AmpfieldAndy said:
No Leaver is going to trust Hunt. He’s always blown with the wind and what he did to the junior doctors shows he’s totally self serving and untrustworthy.williamglenn said:0 -
Inclined to agree.RobD said:
I think 25 is a bit on the low end.dyedwoolie said:Labours leaflet silliness has the potential to badly affect their euro vote. I'm increasingly of the opinion both the big two will be in the teens. Brexit to win imo on ca 25%, change, ld and green to be in the 7 to 11 range
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Sky just showed a replay of that one. Not a good look for the circuit. Apparently there’s 350 of them, that now all need to be double checked. We are only an hour away from the F2 qualifying session, which could delay (or worse) the F1 P2 session.Nigelb said:
Williams have a history with Baku drain covers:Sandpit said:
It’s happened in Monaco before, and also in Malaysia, where a drain lifted on a permanent track. It’s because the cars have so much downforce generated under the car, they literally suck up anything not properly welded down.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Sandpit, weird. Although something similar happened somewhere else. Maybe Monaco?
By the way, my first tip for this weekend is Leclerc for his maiden win, currently 4.5 on Betfair. He loves the place and won several times here in F2.
https://www.foxsports.com/motor/story/f1-baku-williams-valtteri-bottas-drain-cover-061816
Idiotic that they’re still not properly welded down after the numerous incidents over the last few years.
George Russell won’t be going out in P2 whatever happens though, he probably needs a new chassis.0 -
After hearing reports on the NSC leak, I am struggling to to see who benefits. The report I heard said For (Hunt) Home (Javid) and Def (Williamson) secretaries all spoke out against Huawei involvement but May was the voice of reason and allowed non essential items such as aerials to be supplied by them.
If this is supposedly related to leadership positioning who is that supposed to benefit?0 -
His time as Foreign Secretary has really shown his limitations.AmpfieldAndy said:
No Leaver is going to trust Hunt. He’s always blown with the wind and what he did to the junior doctors shows he’s totally self serving and untrustworthy.williamglenn said:0 -
Irregular verbs time.Nemtynakht said:After hearing reports on the NSC leak, I am struggling to to see who benefits. The report I heard said For (Hunt) Home (Javid) and Def (Williamson) secretaries all spoke out against Huawei involvement but May was the voice of reason and allowed non essential items such as aerials to be supplied by them.
If this is supposedly related to leadership positioning who is that supposed to benefit?
That's another of those irregular verbs, isn't it?
I give confidential press briefings; you leak; he's being charged under section 2A of the Official Secrets Act.
From the peerless Yes, Minister.0 -
Agreed. Can see why the statement was made (to remind people that Labour, unlike the Tories, can still impose message discipline on candidates) but the tone was too servile and obviously forced.AlastairMeeks said:
What I can't understand is why Lord Adonis agreed to that ridiculous statement. He should have stood his ground - they knew his views when he was selected as an MEP candidate. He would have done far better to stick to his principles even if he was deselected.dyedwoolie said:Labours leaflet silliness has the potential to badly affect their euro vote. I'm increasingly of the opinion both the big two will be in the teens. Brexit to win imo on ca 25%, change, ld and green to be in the 7 to 11 range
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It's going to be close between Con and Lab in terms of the popular vote IMO, at both the Euros and the local elections.0
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I know.Nigelb said:TheScreamingEagles said:
That’s why I’m voting Tory in the Euros.OblitusSumMe said:
If you are in favour of a negotiated Brexit who else would you vote for?AlastairMeeks said:On topic, it will be a good test of the extent of bovine loyalty to the Conservative party. It's hard to identify a single reason to vote for the Conservatives in the EU elections no matter what your political perspective. So we shall get to see the pure and inalienable Conservative vote.
Surely the Conservative vote is a proxy for support for May's Deal?
Certainly more rational than voting for Farage’s Brexit ‘to give the government a nudge’.
But nothing around Brexit is rational any more.
We’re dealing with people who assured me that only a Leave vote would unite the country and Tory party.
Oh and end the Tory fracture on Europe.0 -
Yes, Prime Minister - Man Overboard. I believeTheScreamingEagles said:
Irregular verbs time.Nemtynakht said:After hearing reports on the NSC leak, I am struggling to to see who benefits. The report I heard said For (Hunt) Home (Javid) and Def (Williamson) secretaries all spoke out against Huawei involvement but May was the voice of reason and allowed non essential items such as aerials to be supplied by them.
If this is supposedly related to leadership positioning who is that supposed to benefit?
That's another of those irregular verbs, isn't it?
I give confidential press briefings; you leak; he's being charged under section 2A of the Official Secrets Act.
From the peerless Yes, Minister.0 -
Worse, the recovery truck hit the bridge, and they now have to check its structural integrity.Sandpit said:
Sky just showed a replay of that one. Not a good look for the circuit. Apparently there’s 350 of them, that now all need to be double checked. We are only an hour away from the F2 qualifying session, which could delay (or worse) the F1 P2 session.Nigelb said:
Williams have a history with Baku drain covers:Sandpit said:
It’s happened in Monaco before, and also in Malaysia, where a drain lifted on a permanent track. It’s because the cars have so much downforce generated under the car, they literally suck up anything not properly welded down.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Sandpit, weird. Although something similar happened somewhere else. Maybe Monaco?
By the way, my first tip for this weekend is Leclerc for his maiden win, currently 4.5 on Betfair. He loves the place and won several times here in F2.
https://www.foxsports.com/motor/story/f1-baku-williams-valtteri-bottas-drain-cover-061816
Idiotic that they’re still not properly welded down after the numerous incidents over the last few years.
George Russell won’t be going out in P2 whatever happens though, he probably needs a new chassis.
Russell quite lucky not to suffer serious injury.
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To be fair, he is a step up from his predecessor!williamglenn said:
His time as Foreign Secretary has really shown his limitations.AmpfieldAndy said:
No Leaver is going to trust Hunt. He’s always blown with the wind and what he did to the junior doctors shows he’s totally self serving and untrustworthy.williamglenn said:0 -
It's a mystery to me too. To anybody who follows politics that statement really did read like it was written with a gun to his head or an explosive device down his trousers. Those memes that fly about are usually fun but absurd, however in this case, the idea that he had been kidnapped and these were the forced and stilted words of a hostage, missing only the stark head-shot, the bulging eyes, and the held-up copy of that day's Times, it rang true. It was exactly like that. What gives?AlastairMeeks said:What I can't understand is why Lord Adonis agreed to that ridiculous statement. He should have stood his ground - they knew his views when he was selected as an MEP candidate. He would have done far better to stick to his principles even if he was deselected.
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Samsung are running scared.
iFixit has decided to pull its revealing Samsung Galaxy Fold teardown. The decision is said to have been made after Samsung indirectly requested its removal from the website, which published the teardown on Wednesday.
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/26/ifixit-pulls-galaxy-fold-teardown-samsungs-request/0 -
Boris got a worldwide co-ordinated response to the Salisbury poisonings.Foxy said:
To be fair, he is a step up from his predecessor!williamglenn said:
His time as Foreign Secretary has really shown his limitations.AmpfieldAndy said:
No Leaver is going to trust Hunt. He’s always blown with the wind and what he did to the junior doctors shows he’s totally self serving and untrustworthy.williamglenn said:0 -
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Yeah that non standard question generally produces larger leads for Unionists.CarlottaVance said:SINDYREF2 nailed on then.....
https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1121553219828813830
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I suppose, just thinking about it, it could be that he wanted it to read like that. So it was obvious to all that he was not 'free' as it were, and these were not his real views.kinabalu said:It's a mystery to me too. To anybody who follows politics that statement really did read like it was written with a gun to his head or an explosive device down his trousers. Those memes that fly about are usually fun but absurd, however in this case, the idea that he had been kidnapped and these were the forced and stilted words of a hostage, missing only the stark head-shot, the bulging eyes, and the held-up copy of that day's Times, it rang true. It was exactly like that. What gives?
Rather like when a woman, say, is being held by a hostile intruder and the phone goes and the intruder says "OK answer it but be normal." So she does and it's her husband and he says, "Hi honey, everything OK?"
To which she replies, "Yes, buttercup, just off to Tesco in a minute."
Except that she NEVER calls him buttercup (she hates that sort of thing) and she NEVER goes to Tesco, never would, it's Waitrose all the way.
Hence hubby is tipped off and he calls the cops.
Perhaps it's like that here with Lord Adonis.0 -
He’s doing a damn sight better than his predecessor.williamglenn said:
His time as Foreign Secretary has really shown his limitations.AmpfieldAndy said:
No Leaver is going to trust Hunt. He’s always blown with the wind and what he did to the junior doctors shows he’s totally self serving and untrustworthy.williamglenn said:0 -
But have we gone from "Leak Inquiry" to an actual attempt to find the leaker yet?TheScreamingEagles said:
Irregular verbs time.Nemtynakht said:After hearing reports on the NSC leak, I am struggling to to see who benefits. The report I heard said For (Hunt) Home (Javid) and Def (Williamson) secretaries all spoke out against Huawei involvement but May was the voice of reason and allowed non essential items such as aerials to be supplied by them.
If this is supposedly related to leadership positioning who is that supposed to benefit?
That's another of those irregular verbs, isn't it?
I give confidential press briefings; you leak; he's being charged under section 2A of the Official Secrets Act.
From the peerless Yes, Minister.
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It was well-known that Adonis was an enthusiastic cheerleader for Remain when the NEC selected him, but there's a difference between that and haughtily telling all Leave voters that their votes were not wanted, Hillary Clinton-style.AlastairMeeks said:
What I can't understand is why Lord Adonis agreed to that ridiculous statement. He should have stood his ground - they knew his views when he was selected as an MEP candidate. He would have done far better to stick to his principles even if he was deselected.dyedwoolie said:Labours leaflet silliness has the potential to badly affect their euro vote. I'm increasingly of the opinion both the big two will be in the teens. Brexit to win imo on ca 25%, change, ld and green to be in the 7 to 11 range
In any case, again, as much as some people (including Adonis, and possibly you?) think that Labour's political interests are best served by being virulently anti-Brexit, the party's polling trajectory this year suggests a different story.0 -
I think they’ve reacted quite sensibly, and with commendable speed - in sharp contrast to the way they dealt with the Galaxy 7 problems.TheScreamingEagles said:Samsung are running scared.
iFixit has decided to pull its revealing Samsung Galaxy Fold teardown. The decision is said to have been made after Samsung indirectly requested its removal from the website, which published the teardown on Wednesday.
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/26/ifixit-pulls-galaxy-fold-teardown-samsungs-request/
More interestingly, they’ve decided to take on Intel and TSMC in processor chip fabrication.
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If you add up Hunt's gaffes I'm not so sure about that.Sandpit said:
He’s doing a damn sight better than his predecessor.williamglenn said:
His time as Foreign Secretary has really shown his limitations.AmpfieldAndy said:
No Leaver is going to trust Hunt. He’s always blown with the wind and what he did to the junior doctors shows he’s totally self serving and untrustworthy.williamglenn said:0 -
"Aphrodite and Persephone had a dispute over Adonis because both of the goddesses wanted him and Persephone refused to give him back. In the end, Zeus had to get involved and settle the argument once and for all.kinabalu said:
It's a mystery to me too. To anybody who follows politics that statement really did read like it was written with a gun to his head or an explosive device down his trousers. Those memes that fly about are usually fun but absurd, however in this case, the idea that he had been kidnapped and these were the forced and stilted words of a hostage, missing only the stark head-shot, the bulging eyes, and the held-up copy of that day's Times, it rang true. It was exactly like that. What gives?AlastairMeeks said:What I can't understand is why Lord Adonis agreed to that ridiculous statement. He should have stood his ground - they knew his views when he was selected as an MEP candidate. He would have done far better to stick to his principles even if he was deselected.
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But rather easier for him to just say no.kinabalu said:
I suppose, just thinking about it, it could be that he wanted it to read like that. So it was obvious to all that he was not 'free' as it were, and these were not his real views.kinabalu said:It's a mystery to me too. To anybody who follows politics that statement really did read like it was written with a gun to his head or an explosive device down his trousers. Those memes that fly about are usually fun but absurd, however in this case, the idea that he had been kidnapped and these were the forced and stilted words of a hostage, missing only the stark head-shot, the bulging eyes, and the held-up copy of that day's Times, it rang true. It was exactly like that. What gives?
Rather like when a woman, say, is being held by a hostile intruder and the phone goes and the intruder says "OK answer it but be normal." So she does and it's her husband and he says, "Hi honey, everything OK?"
To which she replies, "Yes, buttercup, just off to Tesco in a minute."
Except that she NEVER calls him buttercup (she hates that sort of thing) and she NEVER goes to Tesco, never would, it's Waitrose all the way.
Hence hubby is tipped off and he calls the cops.
Perhaps it's like that here with Lord Adonis.
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Of course. But the statement he put out was a complete contradiction of everything he had previously stood for.Danny565 said:
It was well-known that Adonis was an enthusiastic cheerleader for Remain when the NEC selected him, but there's a difference between that and haughtily telling all Leave voters that their votes were not wanted, Hillary Clinton-style.AlastairMeeks said:
What I can't understand is why Lord Adonis agreed to that ridiculous statement. He should have stood his ground - they knew his views when he was selected as an MEP candidate. He would have done far better to stick to his principles even if he was deselected.dyedwoolie said:Labours leaflet silliness has the potential to badly affect their euro vote. I'm increasingly of the opinion both the big two will be in the teens. Brexit to win imo on ca 25%, change, ld and green to be in the 7 to 11 range
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That should be the marketing slogan for the fold, ‘At least it doesn’t explode.’Nigelb said:
I think they’ve reacted quite sensibly, and with commendable speed - in sharp contrast to the way they dealt with the Galaxy 7 problems.TheScreamingEagles said:Samsung are running scared.
iFixit has decided to pull its revealing Samsung Galaxy Fold teardown. The decision is said to have been made after Samsung indirectly requested its removal from the website, which published the teardown on Wednesday.
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/26/ifixit-pulls-galaxy-fold-teardown-samsungs-request/
More interestingly, they’ve decided to take on Intel and TSMC in processor chip fabrication.0 -
And the content was very clearly at odds with everything Adonis has been saying for the past three years!anothernick said:
Agreed. Can see why the statement was made (to remind people that Labour, unlike the Tories, can still impose message discipline on candidates) but the tone was too servile and obviously forced.AlastairMeeks said:
What I can't understand is why Lord Adonis agreed to that ridiculous statement. He should have stood his ground - they knew his views when he was selected as an MEP candidate. He would have done far better to stick to his principles even if he was deselected.dyedwoolie said:Labours leaflet silliness has the potential to badly affect their euro vote. I'm increasingly of the opinion both the big two will be in the teens. Brexit to win imo on ca 25%, change, ld and green to be in the 7 to 11 range
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Well he seems to have gone from being pro to anti EU, so that's a bit like Magrit.AmpfieldAndy said:
There is nothing Thatcherite about Hunt - at all. Nothing Thatcherite about this Tory Party sadly. Try running a health service without doctors. Thatcher was smart enough not to try.TheScreamingEagles said:
He showed he was a true Thatcherite as he put a trade union in its place.AmpfieldAndy said:
No Leaver is going to trust Hunt. He’s always blown with the wind and what he did to the junior doctors shows he’s totally self serving and untrustworthy.williamglenn said:
Though afaics Magrit was a LOT more pro EU than Hunt.0 -
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It is a great name, isn't it.MarqueeMark said:"Aphrodite and Persephone had a dispute over Adonis because both of the goddesses wanted him and Persephone refused to give him back. In the end, Zeus had to get involved and settle the argument once and for all.
Zeus told the goddesses that a third of a year should be given to both of them and the other would be for Adonis to decide. Adonis chose to be with....the Labour Party.0 -
Gavin eslers price is Way too short on the current polling, its evens at best change get an mep surely?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Is Tommy Robinson actually standing?TheScreamingEagles said:
Some of those don’t look right as they are #2 or #3 on the lists.0 -
I am planning to take Mike's advice and get a Xiao Mi Pocofone. Direct links to 八一大楼.TheScreamingEagles said:Samsung are running scared.
iFixit has decided to pull its revealing Samsung Galaxy Fold teardown. The decision is said to have been made after Samsung indirectly requested its removal from the website, which published the teardown on Wednesday.
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/26/ifixit-pulls-galaxy-fold-teardown-samsungs-request/
Edit: apologies for using the Chinese language the translation is Ba Yi Da Lou.0 -
A fellow Question Time panellist (of Hunt, not me) I spoke to recently said he’s as thick as mince, Japanese ability notwithstanding.williamglenn said:
His time as Foreign Secretary has really shown his limitations.AmpfieldAndy said:
No Leaver is going to trust Hunt. He’s always blown with the wind and what he did to the junior doctors shows he’s totally self serving and untrustworthy.williamglenn said:0 -
Yes, in the North West.Sandpit said:
Is Tommy Robinson actually standing?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Tommy Robinson 6/4 to be elected as an MEP? That's a 2 in 5 chance. OMG.0
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Yes, in the North West as an Indy.Sandpit said:
Is Tommy Robinson actually standing?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Hes gonna need about 10% against 7 competitors........ surely the EDL types aren't a 10% presence??kinabalu said:Tommy Robinson 6/4 to be elected as an MEP? That's a 2 in 5 chance. OMG.
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Just can't see Labour getting two MEPs in the SW. So Adonis will have sold his soul for what?Sandpit said:
Is Tommy Robinson actually standing?TheScreamingEagles said:
Some of those don’t look right as they are #2 or #3 on the lists.0 -
I don’t think it’ll happen.Theuniondivvie said:
How will his name appear on the ballot paper?
If it is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon then that’s going to cost him.0 -
It's not even impossible that the Conservatives will top the poll. YouGov have the gap at only 6% between first and third.TheScreamingEagles said:
That’s why I’m voting Tory in the Euros.OblitusSumMe said:
If you are in favour of a negotiated Brexit who else would you vote for?AlastairMeeks said:On topic, it will be a good test of the extent of bovine loyalty to the Conservative party. It's hard to identify a single reason to vote for the Conservatives in the EU elections no matter what your political perspective. So we shall get to see the pure and inalienable Conservative vote.
Surely the Conservative vote is a proxy for support for May's Deal?
I think I'll follow the polls closely, and vote for the party that is best placed to beat Labour.0 -
Assume you'll be getting the armoured version?TOPPING said:
I am planning to take Mike's advice and get a Xiao Mi Pocofone. Direct links to 八一大楼.TheScreamingEagles said:Samsung are running scared.
iFixit has decided to pull its revealing Samsung Galaxy Fold teardown. The decision is said to have been made after Samsung indirectly requested its removal from the website, which published the teardown on Wednesday.
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/26/ifixit-pulls-galaxy-fold-teardown-samsungs-request/
Edit: apologies for using the Chinese language the translation is Ba Yi Da Lou.0 -
I don't doubt that there's some great money to be had on the Euro elections but I think I'm steering clear. Call it chicken, but there's so much about the whole Brexit issue that I simply cannot call, or even fathom. I've never known anything like it in politics. So I'm crossing by on the other side of the road for this one.0
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If on Tuesday Labour come out decisively for a people's vote that will see them top the poll.
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Ah okay, that explains why he wasn’t on the UKIP list. There’s 8 seats in the NW, are more than 12.5% really going to vote for him by name, in preference to any party?TheScreamingEagles said:
Yes, in the North West as an Indy.Sandpit said:
Is Tommy Robinson actually standing?TheScreamingEagles said:
Was rather hoping that we’d avoid his name being involved with the elections.0 -
"To take a man's soul, and give him *nothing* in return, that is what really gladdens the heart of Our Father Below" according to Screwtape.MarqueeMark said:
Just can't see Labour getting two MEPs in the SW. So Adonis will have sold his soul for what?Sandpit said:
Is Tommy Robinson actually standing?TheScreamingEagles said:
Some of those don’t look right as they are #2 or #3 on the lists.0
