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Creepy Joe will run. More fodder for trump to easily beat0
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Might as well run with that support to start with, what's he got to lose?
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https://twitter.com/LibDems/status/1106658708388528128 I wonder, is the answer to fix our broken politics to vote LD and TIG?0 -
You mean the independent Democrats?kle4 said:Might as well run with that support to start with, what's he got to lose?
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https://twitter.com/LibDems/status/1106658708388528128 I wonder, is the answer to fix our broken politics to vote LD and TIG?
Or Chuka Umunas Independent league of Democrats?0 -
Probably their best candidate. He won't be demanding reparations for slavery, or an end to immigration controls.0
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The next election might be won by a party getting 33% of the vote.kle4 said:Might as well run with that support to start with, what's he got to lose?
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https://twitter.com/LibDems/status/1106658708388528128 I wonder, is the answer to fix our broken politics to vote LD and TIG?
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Depends if Trump can make the mud stick about Obama's WH being behind FISA and setting up investigations into trump without evidence of a crime or wrongdoing. If he does Biden goes down by associationSean_F said:Probably their best candidate. He won't be demanding reparations for slavery, or an end to immigration controls.
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If they could peel off the non wingnut labourites and divorce them from obsessing over party instead of principle they'd walk it imoSean_F said:
The next election might be won by a party getting 33% of the vote.kle4 said:Might as well run with that support to start with, what's he got to lose?
In other news
https://twitter.com/LibDems/status/1106658708388528128 I wonder, is the answer to fix our broken politics to vote LD and TIG?0 -
As I've backed Biden, I'm content for him to run.
F1 pre-race ramble will likely go up this evening.0 -
Given the alternatives, I'd say yes!kle4 said:Might as well run with that support to start with, what's he got to lose?
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https://twitter.com/LibDems/status/1106658708388528128 I wonder, is the answer to fix our broken politics to vote LD and TIG?0 -
BIDEN 2020
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I think you are about right, David.
The four betting favourites more or less equal odds don’t make much sense to me, either - are there any you would be laying at this point ?
I wonder about Vanity Fair, “Man, I’m just born to be in it” O’Rourke.
Has he blown it by going for president instead of another Senate shot ? He’s going to have a lot of Democrats trying to demolish his myth, rather than the entire party behind him for the next year.0 -
that's an hour or so done... are we nearly there yet?Scott_P said:Can you crop it tighter? No, tighter!!!
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1106864839073415168
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At least these people are out doing something to promote the cause they believe in. I suppose it's easier to just snark from the internet though.Scott_P said:Can you crop it tighter? No, tighter!!!
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Back to Brexit (communal groan):
So if MV3 is defeated we then get a series of votes on different breeds of unicorn. I would expect them all to be defeated too.
Then what? MV4? A vote on revoking A50? A vote on putting May's deal to the public in a second referendum?
Without parliament passing something by Brexit Day, why should the 27 grant us any kind of extension?
That then leads to either No Deal Brexit or Tezzie blinking and revoking at 22:55 on the 29th.0 -
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/1106858425516986374twistedfirestopper3 said:At least these people are out doing something to promote the cause they believe in.
And now I shall go out and do something to promote a cause I believe in. I shall purchase refreshments for the upcoming Calcutta Cup match0 -
Kolkata. Never had you down as an Imperialist.Scott_P said:
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/1106858425516986374twistedfirestopper3 said:At least these people are out doing something to promote the cause they believe in.
And now I shall go out and do something to promote a cause I believe in. I shall purchase refreshments for the upcoming Calcutta Cup match0 -
Starting point: I'm not an ERG-er. I hate May's Shit Deal. But I'm a pragmatist. Nothing better is going to come along. No Deal preparation was blocked. Let those responsible have their careers rot in hell for that, but the narrative is set; everything about No Deal is toxic. We would probably muddle through without most of the horrors ascribed, but any little thing that goes wrong will be blown out of all proportion. "OMG!!! We left the EU and now I CAN'T BUY GOOSEBERRIES IN APRIL!!!" That sort of horror. Or else it really could be truly horrible - and we lose 100,000s of thousands of top quality jobs.
If you are an ERG MP though, you might continue your crusade, determined to hold out until the end. That comes with a very real risk of No Brexit rather than No Deal. Realisitically, there will never be another opportunity to Leave. Sure, you could be a standard-bearer for the Really Pissed Off. Point out that every British ill is down to us not having Brexited. In other words, become Nigel Farage. But some - many - will blame YOU for those ills still visiting us. Because unlike Farage, who was not an MP, you could have stopped them. If only you hadn't been such a purist twat. The rest of your life is a long time to have to watch generations of Juncker's successors, lording it over us. Thinking "If only....."
It seems unfathomable that when you have worked yourself into a lather for decades over the ills of the EU, you are going to give up the chance to be finally parted from it. But we AREN'T parted from it, they will cry. We are a vassal of Europe. Well, up to a point. You think if this was Frexit, the French would honour Macron's Shit Deal until the end of time? Of course not.
Just bloody well swallow your wretched pride, sign up to May's Deal, then oust May at the earliest. Work to elect somebody who commits to TRY to undertake the trade agreement, but will prepare for An Alternative if the EU deal proves to come with a price-tag that's too high. Yes, you are still going to be fighting the establishment every step of the way. Better that than being wound ever tighter into Brussel's clutches. That will be far, far worse.
And a reminder. You stood as Conservative MPs. Not ERG MPs. Those who voted for you did so for many reasons, but for many it was because you had signed up to Leave the EU. You can't claim some great moral authority to implement the purest Brexit, when to do so would require commiting a fraud upon your voters.0 -
Are you going to copy/paste/retweet for the whole 200 miles (or until they give up and go home)?Scott_P said:
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/1106858425516986374twistedfirestopper3 said:At least these people are out doing something to promote the cause they believe in.
And now I shall go out and do something to promote a cause I believe in. I shall purchase refreshments for the upcoming Calcutta Cup match
Could be even more tedious than your normal output....0 -
Kate's canvass trainers look more suitable for the walk than Andrea's but she'll need to have several pairs to let them dry at the end of each day. Hiking boots would be best if you're planning on only using one pair of shoes.Scrapheap_as_was said:
that's an hour or so done... are we nearly there yet?Scott_P said:Can you crop it tighter? No, tighter!!!
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1106864839073415168
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/11068616603152343040 -
I see Iman Fadil, a Moroccan prostitute who was due to give evidence against Berlusconi, has died of radiation poisoning.0
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There's not much choice, really, if you favour Brexit.MarqueeMark said:Starting point: I'm not an ERG-er. I hate May's Shit Deal. But I'm a pragmatist. Nothing better is going to come along. No Deal preparation was blocked. Let those responsible have their careers rot in hell for that, but the narrative is set; everything about No Deal is toxic. We would probably muddle through without most of the horrors ascribed, but any little thing that goes wrong will be blown out of all proportion. "OMG!!! We left the EU and now I CAN'T BUY GOOSEBERRIES IN APRIL!!!" That sort of horror. Or else it really could be truly horrible - and we lose 100,000s of thousands of top quality jobs.
If you are an ERG MP though, you might continue your crusade, determined to hold out until the end. That comes with a very real risk of No Brexit rather than No Deal. Realisitically, there will never be another opportunity to Leave. Sure, you could be a standard-bearer for the Really Pissed Off. Point out that every British ill is down to us not having Brexited. In other words, become Nigel Farage. But some - many - will blame YOU for those ills still visiting us. Because unlike Farage, who was not an MP, you could have stopped them. If only you hadn't been such a purist twat. The rest of your life is a long time to have to watch generations of Juncker's successors, lording it over us. Thinking "If only....."
It seems unfathomable that when you have worked yourself into a lather for decades over the ills of the EU, you are going to give up the chance to be finally parted from it. But we AREN'T parted from it, they will cry. We are a vassal of Europe. Well, up to a point. You think if this was Frexit, the French would honour Macron's Shit Deal until the end of time? Of course not.
Just bloody well swallow your wretched pride, sign up to May's Deal, then oust May at the earliest. Work to elect somebody who commits to TRY to undertake the trade agreement, but will prepare for An Alternative if the EU deal proves to come with a price-tag that's too high. Yes, you are still going to be fighting the establishment every step of the way. Better that than being wound ever tighter into Brussel's clutches. That will be far, far worse.
And a reminder. You stood as Conservative MPs. Not ERG MPs. Those who voted for you did so for many reasons, but for many it was because you had signed up to Leave the EU. You can't claim some great moral authority to implement the purest Brexit, when to do so would require commiting a fraud upon your voters.0 -
Why has the BBC pixelated an image of the nz terrorist arriving in court? Is it some weird nz law?0
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Andrea Jenkyns is a perfect example of “be careful what you wish for”.Scott_P said:Can you crop it tighter? No, tighter!!!
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1106864839073415168
Oh how I hoped and dreamed of an Ed Balls defeat, and now in hindsight...0 -
FPT:DavidL said:
Had a similar experience on buying property - there was some dispute over where the property boundary ran (through the middle of a gorse patch - by a couple of inches) and it was suggested I 'take a view' on the matter - that it was a problem in theory but was not remotely likely to be in practice - which I did.FF43 said:
His position as a lawyer was familiar to me. Can you remove all risk or give a guarantee? No. The client has to make an informed decision based on their assessment of that risk. That is your job.DavidL said:
I think that you are the only one who finds him ludicrous._Anazina_ said:
The ludicrous Cox could try shouting even louder. It can sometimes work with bigoted NI loyalists.DavidL said:
I am not sure even this would be enough unless Cox can work some magic on the DUP but it would be a start and an important start. If the Tories are to have any aspirations of forming a government (this one having collapsed) they need to stop the self indulgence and restore party discipline. May can't do it, she is a completely busted flush, but the Cabinet as a whole can.MarqueeMark said:Barnesian said:
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Jezza over 40% methinks.Sean_F said:
The next election might be won by a party getting 33% of the vote.kle4 said:Might as well run with that support to start with, what's he got to lose?
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https://twitter.com/LibDems/status/1106658708388528128 I wonder, is the answer to fix our broken politics to vote LD and TIG?0 -
I know you're being snarky, but.....SandyRentool said:
Kolkata. Never had you down as an Imperialist.Scott_P said:
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/1106858425516986374twistedfirestopper3 said:At least these people are out doing something to promote the cause they believe in.
And now I shall go out and do something to promote a cause I believe in. I shall purchase refreshments for the upcoming Calcutta Cup match
The Calcutta Cup was so named in 1879.
Calcutta only officially became Kolkata in 2001. More than half a century after imperial rule ended.
(Although, I'm never quite sure if Bombay Mix is Imperialist.... Presumably it was first mixed at the time of it being Bombay, so would be historically inaccurate to call it "Mumbai Mix". Unless of course, the mix you acquire IS actually mixed in Mumbai and exported...would that be Mumbai Bombay Mix???)0 -
Good decision. Depicts him as the obscure pathetic nobody he actually is, rather than some preening superhero of the alt-right.FrancisUrquhart said:Why has the BBC pixelated an image of the nz terrorist arriving in court? Is it some weird nz law?
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He'd have to become a lot more popular.bigjohnowls said:
Jezza over 40% methinks.Sean_F said:
The next election might be won by a party getting 33% of the vote.kle4 said:Might as well run with that support to start with, what's he got to lose?
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https://twitter.com/LibDems/status/1106658708388528128 I wonder, is the answer to fix our broken politics to vote LD and TIG?0 -
My understanding is that Bombay is preferred by locals who aren't Hindu nationalists.MarqueeMark said:
I know you're being snarky, but.....SandyRentool said:
Kolkata. Never had you down as an Imperialist.Scott_P said:
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/1106858425516986374twistedfirestopper3 said:At least these people are out doing something to promote the cause they believe in.
And now I shall go out and do something to promote a cause I believe in. I shall purchase refreshments for the upcoming Calcutta Cup match
The Calcutta Cup was so named in 1879.
Calcutta only officially became Kolkata in 2001. More than half a century after imperial rule ended.
(Although, I'm never quite sure if Bombay Mix is Imperialist.... Presumably it was first mixed at the time of it being Bombay, so would be historically inaccurate to call it "Mumbai Mix". Unless of course, the mix you acquire IS actually mixed in Mumbai and exported...would that be Mumbai Bombay Mix???)0 -
Chicken Chennai and Mumbai potatoes pleaseMarqueeMark said:
I know you're being snarky, but.....SandyRentool said:
Kolkata. Never had you down as an Imperialist.Scott_P said:
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/1106858425516986374twistedfirestopper3 said:At least these people are out doing something to promote the cause they believe in.
And now I shall go out and do something to promote a cause I believe in. I shall purchase refreshments for the upcoming Calcutta Cup match
The Calcutta Cup was so named in 1879.
Calcutta only officially became Kolkata in 2001. More than half a century after imperial rule ended.
(Although, I'm never quite sure if Bombay Mix is Imperialist.... Presumably it was first mixed at the time of it being Bombay, so would be historically inaccurate to call it "Mumbai Mix". Unless of course, the mix you acquire IS actually mixed in Mumbai and exported...would that be Mumbai Bombay Mix???)0 -
If that's the reason, should we also pixelate Hitler etc? I totally agree with not showing his go-pro live stream footage, but not sure about this.ThomasNashe said:
Good decision. Depicts him as the obscure pathetic nobody he actually is, rather than some preening superhero of the alt-right.FrancisUrquhart said:Why has the BBC pixelated an image of the nz terrorist arriving in court? Is it some weird nz law?
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I find the only people who use Mumbai in this country are non-Indians. I rarely see a British Indian say Mumbai.Sean_F said:
My understanding is that Bombay is preferred by locals who aren't Hindu nationalists.MarqueeMark said:
I know you're being snarky, but.....SandyRentool said:
Kolkata. Never had you down as an Imperialist.Scott_P said:
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/1106858425516986374twistedfirestopper3 said:At least these people are out doing something to promote the cause they believe in.
And now I shall go out and do something to promote a cause I believe in. I shall purchase refreshments for the upcoming Calcutta Cup match
The Calcutta Cup was so named in 1879.
Calcutta only officially became Kolkata in 2001. More than half a century after imperial rule ended.
(Although, I'm never quite sure if Bombay Mix is Imperialist.... Presumably it was first mixed at the time of it being Bombay, so would be historically inaccurate to call it "Mumbai Mix". Unless of course, the mix you acquire IS actually mixed in Mumbai and exported...would that be Mumbai Bombay Mix???)0 -
Sean_F said:
I see Iman Fadil, a Moroccan prostitute who was due to give evidence against Berlusconi, has died of radiation poisoning.
Any of Berlusconi's mates specialists in radioactive poisonings?0 -
Geoffrey Cox referred to Sabine Weyand as "my dear" during negotiations.
https://twitter.com/tconnellyRTE/status/11068265574468976650 -
Exactly. The world's a crap hole, pixelating it doesn't make that go away. We need to see and remember the faces of evil so as to better love the faces of good franklyFrancisUrquhart said:
If that's the reason, should we also pixelate Hitler etc? I totally agree with not showing his go-pro live stream footage, but not sure about this.ThomasNashe said:
Good decision. Depicts him as the obscure pathetic nobody he actually is, rather than some preening superhero of the alt-right.FrancisUrquhart said:Why has the BBC pixelated an image of the nz terrorist arriving in court? Is it some weird nz law?
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Requirement of the court apparently. It hasn't stopped the Daily Mail publishing a large photo of him on their front page this morning while reserving the pixelated image to Page 3 and his court appearance.FrancisUrquhart said:Why has the BBC pixelated an image of the nz terrorist arriving in court? Is it some weird nz law?
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He and Putin get on very well.CarlottaVance said:Sean_F said:I see Iman Fadil, a Moroccan prostitute who was due to give evidence against Berlusconi, has died of radiation poisoning.
Any of Berlusconi's mates specialists in radioactive poisonings?0 -
Given Biden is clearly the Democrats best bet to beat Trump and to win the rustbelt swing states as the polls agree it is no surprise he leads the Democratic nomination polls. Biden is also said to be the one candidate Trump fears0
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Connelly is the best informed Brexit reporter out there. For ERG and DUP MPs desperately looking for a way out of the hole they’ve dug for themselves it makes for very uncomfortable reading. The only option is personal humiliation - and all for a Deal they despise. It couldn’t happen to finer people :-Dwilliamglenn said:Geoffrey Cox referred to Sabine Weyand as "my dear" during negotiations.
https://twitter.com/tconnellyRTE/status/1106826557446897665
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All very rational but you're someone who interacts with the real world.MarqueeMark said:Starting point: I'm not an ERG-er. I hate May's Shit Deal. But I'm a pragmatist. Nothing better is going to come along. No Deal preparation was blocked. Let those responsible have their careers rot in hell for that, but the narrative is set; everything about No Deal is toxic. We would probably muddle through without most of the horrors ascribed, but any little thing that goes wrong will be blown out of all proportion. "OMG!!! We left the EU and now I CAN'T BUY GOOSEBERRIES IN APRIL!!!" That sort of horror. Or else it really could be truly horrible - and we lose 100,000s of thousands of top quality jobs.
If you are an ERG MP though, you might continue your crusade, determined to hold out until the end. That comes with a very real risk of No Brexit rather than No Deal. Realisitically, there will never be another opportunity to Leave. Sure, you could be a standard-bearer for the Really Pissed Off. Point out that every British ill is down to us not having Brexited. In other words, become Nigel Farage. But some - many - will blame YOU for those ills still visiting us. Because unlike Farage, who was not an MP, you could have stopped them. If only you hadn't been such a purist twat. The rest of your life is a long time to have to watch generations of Juncker's successors, lording it over us. Thinking "If only....."
It seems unfathomable that when you have worked yourself into a lather for decades over the ills of the EU, you are going to give up the chance to be finally parted from it. But we AREN'T parted from it, they will cry. We are a vassal of Europe. Well, up to a point. You think if this was Frexit, the French would honour Macron's Shit Deal until the end of time? Of course not.
Just bloody well swallow your wretched pride, sign up to May's Deal, then oust May at the earliest. Work to elect somebody who commits to TRY to undertake the trade agreement, but will prepare for An Alternative if the EU deal proves to come with a price-tag that's too high. Yes, you are still going to be fighting the establishment every step of the way. Better that than being wound ever tighter into Brussel's clutches. That will be far, far worse.
And a reminder. You stood as Conservative MPs. Not ERG MPs. Those who voted for you did so for many reasons, but for many it was because you had signed up to Leave the EU. You can't claim some great moral authority to implement the purest Brexit, when to do so would require commiting a fraud upon your voters.
Now imagine you spend your time instead either in the Westminster bars or among the twatter ranters.0 -
Fascinating account - the Irish - and Irish journalists do seem to have been more on top of this than their British counterparts. If this account is accurate, then the issue appears to be a Downing St <>Cox communication problem, rather than UK<>EU.williamglenn said:Geoffrey Cox referred to Sabine Weyand as "my dear" during negotiations.
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The issue is that the ERG are chasing the ideological purity of opposition while being in the governing party. Honestly, Mrs May needs to step up and start withdrawing the whip and pledging to run candidates against them. At this rate we're going to remain anyway so at least we'll be rid of the bastards.MarqueeMark said:Starting point: I'm not an ERG-er. I hate May's Shit Deal. But I'm a pragmatist. Nothing better is going to come along. No Deal preparation was blocked. Let those responsible have their careers rot in hell for that, but the narrative is set; everything about No Deal is toxic. We would probably muddle through without most of the horrors ascribed, but any little thing that goes wrong will be blown out of all proportion. "OMG!!! We left the EU and now I CAN'T BUY GOOSEBERRIES IN APRIL!!!" That sort of horror. Or else it really could be truly horrible - and we lose 100,000s of thousands of top quality jobs.
If you are an ERG MP though, you might continue your crusade, determined to hold out until the end. That comes with a very real risk of No Brexit rather than No Deal. Realisitically, there will never be another opportunity to Leave. Sure, you could be a standard-bearer for the Really Pissed Off. Point out that every British ill is down to us not having Brexited. In other words, become Nigel Farage. But some - many - will blame YOU for those ills still visiting us. Because unlike Farage, who was not an MP, you could have stopped them. If only you hadn't been such a purist twat. The rest of your life is a long time to have to watch generations of Juncker's successors, lording it over us. Thinking "If only....."
It seems unfathomable that when you have worked yourself into a lather for decades over the ills of the EU, you are going to give up the chance to be finally parted from it. But we AREN'T parted from it, they will cry. We are a vassal of Europe. Well, up to a point. You think if this was Frexit, the French would honour Macron's Shit Deal until the end of time? Of course not.
Just bloody well swallow your wretched pride, sign up to May's Deal, then oust May at the earliest. Work to elect somebody who commits to TRY to undertake the trade agreement, but will prepare for An Alternative if the EU deal proves to come with a price-tag that's too high. Yes, you are still going to be fighting the establishment every step of the way. Better that than being wound ever tighter into Brussel's clutches. That will be far, far worse.
And a reminder. You stood as Conservative MPs. Not ERG MPs. Those who voted for you did so for many reasons, but for many it was because you had signed up to Leave the EU. You can't claim some great moral authority to implement the purest Brexit, when to do so would require commiting a fraud upon your voters.0 -
spineless moronsScott_P said:0 -
Britain Elects
@britainelects
4h4 hours ago
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 39% (+3)
CON: 35% (-5)
LDEM: 10% ()
UKIP: 5% (-)
via @Survation, 15 Mar
Chgs. w/ 18 Feb
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Thank goodness PB was a snark free zone when the Peoples Vote mob 'only' managed several hundred thousand on their London march.twistedfirestopper3 said:
At least these people are out doing something to promote the cause they believe in. I suppose it's easier to just snark from the internet though.Scott_P said:Can you crop it tighter? No, tighter!!!
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2019bigjohnowls said:Britain Elects
@britainelects
4h4 hours ago
More
Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 39% (+3)
CON: 35% (-5)
LDEM: 10% ()
UKIP: 5% (-)
via @Survation, 15 Mar
Chgs. w/ 18 Feb
Is this a 2018 or 2019 Poll?
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That's a good point.MarqueeMark said:
It seems unfathomable that when you have worked yourself into a lather for decades over the ills of the EU, you are going to give up the chance to be finally parted from it. But we AREN'T parted from it, they will cry. We are a vassal of Europe. Well, up to a point. You think if this was Frexit, the French would honour Macron's Shit Deal until the end of time? Of course not.
Things will tend to diverge or converge on their own momentum afterwards in any case.
Not to mention the policies of various future governments will lead to divergence or convergence on various issues.
The ERG seem obsessed with Brexit being an event rather than a process.0 -
Has Britain Elects got this wrong?bigjohnowls said:Britain Elects
@britainelects
4h4 hours ago
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 39% (+3)
CON: 35% (-5)
LDEM: 10% ()
UKIP: 5% (-)
via @Survation, 15 Mar
Chgs. w/ 18 Feb
Is this a 2018 or 2019 Poll?
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Great to see a thread header on US: thanks David.0
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A 200 mile walk is a touch different to a mile or so in the middle of London.Theuniondivvie said:
Thank goodness PB was a snark free zone when the Peoples Vote mob 'only' managed several hundred thousand on their London march.twistedfirestopper3 said:
At least these people are out doing something to promote the cause they believe in. I suppose it's easier to just snark from the internet though.Scott_P said:Can you crop it tighter? No, tighter!!!
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Cant see it on Survation sitePulpstar said:
2019bigjohnowls said:Britain Elects
@britainelects
4h4 hours ago
More
Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 39% (+3)
CON: 35% (-5)
LDEM: 10% ()
UKIP: 5% (-)
via @Survation, 15 Mar
Chgs. w/ 18 Feb
Is this a 2018 or 2019 Poll?
Oh Jeremy Corbyn0 -
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I'm not one to snark about people marching. I like a good march, had some good days in London with the FBU. I guess I get snarky about how only marches you agree with are worthwhile marches...Theuniondivvie said:
Thank goodness PB was a snark free zone when the Peoples Vote mob 'only' managed several hundred thousand on their London march.twistedfirestopper3 said:
At least these people are out doing something to promote the cause they believe in. I suppose it's easier to just snark from the internet though.Scott_P said:Can you crop it tighter? No, tighter!!!
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/11068648390734151680 -
2019.bigjohnowls said:
Has Britain Elects got this wrong?bigjohnowls said:Britain Elects
@britainelects
4h4 hours ago
More
Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 39% (+3)
CON: 35% (-5)
LDEM: 10% ()
UKIP: 5% (-)
via @Survation, 15 Mar
Chgs. w/ 18 Feb
Is this a 2018 or 2019 Poll?
Looks suspiciously like a 2018 poll to me0 -
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1106868581428576256
Not quite sure how you can leave your Association? Whatever looks like there might be one less to support the Deal.0 -
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50 people is a touch different to 700,000. What are we comparing?Pulpstar said:
A 200 mile walk is a touch different to a mile or so in the middle of London.Theuniondivvie said:
Thank goodness PB was a snark free zone when the Peoples Vote mob 'only' managed several hundred thousand on their London march.twistedfirestopper3 said:
At least these people are out doing something to promote the cause they believe in. I suppose it's easier to just snark from the internet though.Scott_P said:Can you crop it tighter? No, tighter!!!
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1106864839073415168
I guess you could multiply the two and compare miles walked to assess impact or effort or something.
10,000 versus 700,000.0 -
I infer from that that neither Italy or Poland is going to block an extension if requested.Scott_P said:0 -
I'd rather like to know how many D/K's there were and if their votes are distributed, how.bigjohnowls said:Britain Elects
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Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 39% (+3)
CON: 35% (-5)
LDEM: 10% ()
UKIP: 5% (-)
via @Survation, 15 Mar
Chgs. w/ 18 Feb
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Pleased to see one bet come off in the F1.Morris_Dancer said:As I've backed Biden, I'm content for him to run.
F1 pre-race ramble will likely go up this evening.
Now for one of my favourite days of the year, last day of the Six Nations. As good an excuse as any to spend eight hours in the pub! Cheers to all PBrs, and may the best teams win!0 -
Biden is certainly the one Trump has been quizzing his aides about. I think in part this is due to the 'marlarky' speech Biden did late in the last campaign - i.e. Trump and his ideas were "a bunch of marlarky". It was belting, punchy stuff and way better than anything Clinton could do.HYUFD said:Given Biden is clearly the Democrats best bet to beat Trump and to win the rustbelt swing states as the polls agree it is no surprise he leads the Democratic nomination polls. Biden is also said to be the one candidate Trump fears
Apparently his aides have calmed him down by saying there is little chance of Biden actually getting through the primary, as Dems have moved so far left.0 -
Yep, Remainy types snark about the former & Brexity types the latter. I suppose that's a kind of consistency.Pulpstar said:
A 200 mile walk is a touch different to a mile or so in the middle of London.Theuniondivvie said:
Thank goodness PB was a snark free zone when the Peoples Vote mob 'only' managed several hundred thousand on their London march.twistedfirestopper3 said:
At least these people are out doing something to promote the cause they believe in. I suppose it's easier to just snark from the internet though.Scott_P said:Can you crop it tighter? No, tighter!!!
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Seen this now. Pity Mail had to report that!!!
There are two polls in this morning’s papers – Survation in the Mail and YouGov in the Times.
Survation have topline figures of CON 35%(-5), LAB 39%(+3), LDEM 10%(nc), UKIP 5%(nc). Fieldwork was on Friday, and changes are from mkid-February.
YouGov have topline figures of CON 35%(-5), LAB 31%(nc), LDEM 12%(+1), UKIP 6%(+3). Fieldwork was Thursday to Friday, and changes are from the start of March.0 -
Keep an eye on Mayor Pete (Buttigieg).
Long long shot, but he's good. Very good.
As I posted last night, could be a big surprise dark horse if gets to the debates.
Axelrod is a fan.0 -
Boles to TIG (despite what he says?) Or can he just not be arsed to get on the train to Grantham every weekend?rottenborough said:
Could this become a trend (Yes, Grieve, I'm looking at you....)0 -
He’s an interesting one.. ERG foot soldier not usually given to independent thought (unless it’s rewriting the trade rules for lemons or history of the Marshall Plan). Suggests to me that a large proportion of ERG are preparing to swing behind Deal (although not so far DK’s neighbour and usual minder OPatz)malcolmg said:
spineless moronsScott_P said:0 -
I wonder how many of those who have signed up for this one realise just how much physical and mental effort is going to be required to walk 200 miles?Pulpstar said:
A 200 mile walk is a touch different to a mile or so in the middle of London.Theuniondivvie said:
Thank goodness PB was a snark free zone when the Peoples Vote mob 'only' managed several hundred thousand on their London march.twistedfirestopper3 said:
At least these people are out doing something to promote the cause they believe in. I suppose it's easier to just snark from the internet though.Scott_P said:Can you crop it tighter? No, tighter!!!
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They seem split.Harris_Tweed said:
He’s an interesting one.. ERG foot soldier not usually given to independent thought (unless it’s rewriting the trade rules for lemons or history of the Marshall Plan). Suggests to me that a large proportion of ERG are preparing to swing behind Deal (although not so far DK’s neighbour and usual minder OPatz)malcolmg said:
spineless moronsScott_P said:
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As Mr Meeks pointed out earlier Andrew Yang is also an interesting candidate - possibly its time for the gerontocracy to step aside?rottenborough said:Keep an eye on Mayor Pete (Buttigieg).
Long long shot, but he's good. Very good.
As I posted last night, could be a big surprise dark horse if gets to the debates.
Axelrod is a fan.0 -
Stamford is very pretty though. They film Charles Dickens TV shows there.CarlottaVance said:
Boles to TIG (despite what he says?) Or can he just not be arsed to get on the train to Grantham every weekend?rottenborough said:
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Anything that makes Farage look a marginalised twat is fine by me.....Barnesian said:
50 people is a touch different to 700,000. What are we comparing?Pulpstar said:
A 200 mile walk is a touch different to a mile or so in the middle of London.Theuniondivvie said:
Thank goodness PB was a snark free zone when the Peoples Vote mob 'only' managed several hundred thousand on their London march.twistedfirestopper3 said:
At least these people are out doing something to promote the cause they believe in. I suppose it's easier to just snark from the internet though.Scott_P said:Can you crop it tighter? No, tighter!!!
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1106864839073415168
I guess you could multiply the two and compare miles walked to assess impact or effort or something.
10,000 versus 700,000.0 -
On topic...
Biden will be an interesting test of whether the US is yearning for a grown up after four years of Trump, or still fears a Continuity Clinton Washington Insider. He could fit both roles OK!0 -
My money is on Farage's march making it about 15 miles before it is canned for "road traffic reasons".0
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If he isn't member of the association then he isn't a party member ( unless HQ allows him to join centrally) and surely membership is a requirement for the whipNorm said:https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1106868581428576256
Not quite sure how you can leave your Association? Whatever looks like there might be one less to support the Deal.0 -
Pulpstar said:
Kate's canvass trainers look more suitable for the walk than Andrea's but she'll need to have several pairs to let them dry at the end of each day. Hiking boots would be best if you're planning on only using one pair of shoes.Scrapheap_as_was said:
that's an hour or so done... are we nearly there yet?Scott_P said:Can you crop it tighter? No, tighter!!!
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1106864839073415168
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1106861660315234304
These geniuses have inadvertently created the perfect metaphor for their Brexit.
It will be easy!!! Promise. A gentle 200 mile stroll through sunny spring streets lined with cheering union jack wavers.
Reality: gale force winds, driving rain, hard, deserted roads and empty, sodden, muddy fields.
A classic.0 -
The US? Who knows. But the American left has gone full Momentum. They hate the Democratic Party machine almost as much as they hate Trump. Quite possible the crazies coalesce around another candidate to stop him in the primaries.Harris_Tweed said:On topic...
Biden will be an interesting test of whether the US is yearning for a grown up after four years of Trump, or still fears a Continuity Clinton Washington Insider. He could fit both roles OK!0 -
Mr. Sandpit, cheers, bit annoyed with myself for not hedging it though, which I seriously considered and decided against.0
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Good to see McLaren make it into Q3 today. Hopefully a sign of things to come, especially with top level technical staff still to join.0
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You don't unilaterally rename pronouns.SandyRentool said:
Kolkata. Never had you down as an Imperialist.Scott_P said:
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/1106858425516986374twistedfirestopper3 said:At least these people are out doing something to promote the cause they believe in.
And now I shall go out and do something to promote a cause I believe in. I shall purchase refreshments for the upcoming Calcutta Cup match
Would you go to a bar and order a Mumbai Saphire and Tonic?0 -
Many of the roads will not be deserted of 60mph vehicles passing by at a few feet of distance.rottenborough said:Pulpstar said:
Kate's canvass trainers look more suitable for the walk than Andrea's but she'll need to have several pairs to let them dry at the end of each day. Hiking boots would be best if you're planning on only using one pair of shoes.Scrapheap_as_was said:
that's an hour or so done... are we nearly there yet?Scott_P said:Can you crop it tighter? No, tighter!!!
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1106864839073415168
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1106861660315234304
These geniuses have inadvertently created the perfect metaphor for their Brexit.
It will be easy!!! Promise. A gentle 200 mile stroll through sunny spring streets lined with cheering union jack wavers.
Reality: gale force winds, driving rain, hard, deserted roads and empty, sodden, muddy fields.
A classic.0 -
Yeah.. she needs pretty much 100pc. I guess if most did swing behind, it might increase the pressure on some in Labour not to be the ones enabling No Deal, but they haven’t been bothered so far, and last week’s votes probably give them cover to say they’ve done their bit.AlastairMeeks said:
They seem split.Harris_Tweed said:
He’s an interesting one.. ERG foot soldier not usually given to independent thought (unless it’s rewriting the trade rules for lemons or history of the Marshall Plan). Suggests to me that a large proportion of ERG are preparing to swing behind Deal (although not so far DK’s neighbour and usual minder OPatz)malcolmg said:
spineless moronsScott_P said:
Split probably isn’t good enough for Theresa May.0 -
Sanders or Warren are the most likely nominees in my view yes but Biden their best bet for the generalrottenborough said:
Biden is certainly the one Trump has been quizzing his aides about. I think in part this is due to the 'marlarky' speech Biden did late in the last campaign - i.e. Trump and his ideas were "a bunch of marlarky". It was belting, punchy stuff and way better than anything Clinton could do.HYUFD said:Given Biden is clearly the Democrats best bet to beat Trump and to win the rustbelt swing states as the polls agree it is no surprise he leads the Democratic nomination polls. Biden is also said to be the one candidate Trump fears
Apparently his aides have calmed him down by saying there is little chance of Biden actually getting through the primary, as Dems have moved so far left.0 -
I'm on Biden for president at 20/1. He'd be my biggest winner - except for Kasich at 130/1 which I have as a hedge if the Democrats pick Sanders and the Republicans go for a likeable centrist like Biden. Trump would be my biggest loser.Harris_Tweed said:On topic...
Biden will be an interesting test of whether the US is yearning for a grown up after four years of Trump, or still fears a Continuity Clinton Washington Insider. He could fit both roles OK!0 -
Indeed. Looks like you and I called it pretty much right yesterday. Shame about Williams though, hopefully they can get themselves sorted out soon.MaxPB said:Good to see McLaren make it into Q3 today. Hopefully a sign of things to come, especially with top level technical staff still to join.
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Mr. Max, I was checking last year's result and was surprised to see Alonso got 5th for them last year.
I don't expect that to be repeated.0 -
Could be a member of an Association elsewhere, though. Does he have to be a member of the one where he's MP?IanB2 said:
If he isn't member of the association then he isn't a party member ( unless HQ allows him to join centrally) and surely membership is a requirement for the whipNorm said:https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1106868581428576256
Not quite sure how you can leave your Association? Whatever looks like there might be one less to support the Deal.0 -
I suspect like with abstaining ministers last week, there’s an element of “come and have a go if you think you’re hard enough, Theresa”. And I suspect the answer is that she’s not.IanB2 said:
If he isn't member of the association then he isn't a party member ( unless HQ allows him to join centrally) and surely membership is a requirement for the whipNorm said:https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1106868581428576256
Not quite sure how you can leave your Association? Whatever looks like there might be one less to support the Deal.
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A lack of care of their adherents could also fit into that metaphor..another_richard said:
Many of the roads will not be deserted of 60mph vehicles passing by at a few feet of distance.rottenborough said:Pulpstar said:
Kate's canvass trainers look more suitable for the walk than Andrea's but she'll need to have several pairs to let them dry at the end of each day. Hiking boots would be best if you're planning on only using one pair of shoes.Scrapheap_as_was said:
that's an hour or so done... are we nearly there yet?Scott_P said:Can you crop it tighter? No, tighter!!!
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1106864839073415168
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1106861660315234304
These geniuses have inadvertently created the perfect metaphor for their Brexit.
It will be easy!!! Promise. A gentle 200 mile stroll through sunny spring streets lined with cheering union jack wavers.
Reality: gale force winds, driving rain, hard, deserted roads and empty, sodden, muddy fields.
A classic.0 -
Shamelessly stolen from RedditSandpit said:
Indeed. Looks like you and I called it pretty much right yesterday. Shame about Williams though, hopefully they can get themselves sorted out soon.MaxPB said:Good to see McLaren make it into Q3 today. Hopefully a sign of things to come, especially with top level technical staff still to join.
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No-one sane would walk along beside the A1!Theuniondivvie said:
A lack of care of their adherents could also fit into that metaphor..another_richard said:
Many of the roads will not be deserted of 60mph vehicles passing by at a few feet of distance.rottenborough said:Pulpstar said:
Kate's canvass trainers look more suitable for the walk than Andrea's but she'll need to have several pairs to let them dry at the end of each day. Hiking boots would be best if you're planning on only using one pair of shoes.Scrapheap_as_was said:
that's an hour or so done... are we nearly there yet?Scott_P said:Can you crop it tighter? No, tighter!!!
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1106864839073415168
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1106861660315234304
These geniuses have inadvertently created the perfect metaphor for their Brexit.
It will be easy!!! Promise. A gentle 200 mile stroll through sunny spring streets lined with cheering union jack wavers.
Reality: gale force winds, driving rain, hard, deserted roads and empty, sodden, muddy fields.
A classic.0 -
Anyway, I've got to go. Plan is to put up the pre-race ramble this evening.0
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His odds reflect his chances, but he is one of the very few long shots who are perhaps worth a dabble, at very long odds.rottenborough said:Keep an eye on Mayor Pete (Buttigieg).
Long long shot, but he's good. Very good.
As I posted last night, could be a big surprise dark horse if gets to the debates.
Axelrod is a fan.
That there isn’t another zero on Gabbard’s price continues to confound me.
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They could march to Hartlepool and then catch a Grand Central service to King's Cross.MarqueeMark said:My money is on Farage's march making it about 15 miles before it is canned for "road traffic reasons".
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If they'd planned it properly the route from Tickhill to Oldcotes/Langold would look something like this:another_richard said:
Many of the roads will not be deserted of 60mph vehicles passing by at a few feet of distance.rottenborough said:Pulpstar said:
Kate's canvass trainers look more suitable for the walk than Andrea's but she'll need to have several pairs to let them dry at the end of each day. Hiking boots would be best if you're planning on only using one pair of shoes.Scrapheap_as_was said:
that's an hour or so done... are we nearly there yet?Scott_P said:Can you crop it tighter? No, tighter!!!
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1106864839073415168
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1106861660315234304
These geniuses have inadvertently created the perfect metaphor for their Brexit.
It will be easy!!! Promise. A gentle 200 mile stroll through sunny spring streets lined with cheering union jack wavers.
Reality: gale force winds, driving rain, hard, deserted roads and empty, sodden, muddy fields.
A classic.
https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/1106884675589554177
Instead of heading straight down the A60 ! I suspect plenty of other parts are similiar, Google maps doesn't pick out the best walking routes...0 -
Have they actually organised this properly with authorities at all? The maps they published were shortest distances between two points from Google maps, along a lot of very unsuitable roads. I doubt if anyone’s done so much as a recce along the whole route, and those involved understand how difficult it’s going to be. And I hope they’ve got a nurse with a few needles and bandages for the blisters.MarqueeMark said:My money is on Farage's march making it about 15 miles before it is canned for "road traffic reasons".
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Believing your own propaganda isn’t necessarily the best way to map out an election strategy...rottenborough said:
Biden is certainly the one Trump has been quizzing his aides about. I think in part this is due to the 'marlarky' speech Biden did late in the last campaign - i.e. Trump and his ideas were "a bunch of marlarky". It was belting, punchy stuff and way better than anything Clinton could do.HYUFD said:Given Biden is clearly the Democrats best bet to beat Trump and to win the rustbelt swing states as the polls agree it is no surprise he leads the Democratic nomination polls. Biden is also said to be the one candidate Trump fears
Apparently his aides have calmed him down by saying there is little chance of Biden actually getting through the primary, as Dems have moved so far left.
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