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Gardenwalker said:

Charles said:

viewcode said:

Alanbrooke said:

Manufacturing is increasingly head towards customised manufacture as increased IT use leads to greater flexibility. Batch sizes of 1 may become a future norm

To run that you need a highly skilled work force and po0licies designed to reduce fixed costs to a minimum.

I don't think that model is viable for the UK. It's an NHS-worshipping aging population with a surprisingly large number of people not in work. Retrofitting a high-skill rapid-retraining geographically-flexible workforce onto that will be like putting porn star tits on Maggie Smith: some people will prefer it but most will find it difficult to cope with.

That is a truly disturbing image

Ye Gods!

Omnium said:

Gardenwalker said:

Co-incidentally I am reading a history of the French Revolution. After casting about for the best (most readable) one, I found Christopher Hibbert’s, published in 1980.

The Brexit parallels are indeed obvious, though sadly we are not quite yet at the stage where the revolution eats itself.

Simon Schama's "Citizens" was very well received when it was written. I like it, but I do find there's a sort of lulling sense about it. (Aka I fall asleep)

I read this at university. I cannot bear Schama’s florid prise style.

justin124 said:

HYUFD said:

justin124 said:

HYUFD said:

Black_Rook said:

HYUFD said:

Black_Rook said:

I was going to desist banging the homosexual drum this evening, BUT... The Graun actually did publish a piece today defending that LGBT education scheme in Birmingham, so kudos to them.

On topic: if Peterborough does go to by-election, it looks to me very much like it's the Tories' seat to lose.

Depends, if it falls after the Commons has voted for a Brexit extension or even EUref2 it would be ideal pickings for Farage's new Brexit Party as a strongly Leave seat

Farage doesn't exactly have a stellar record in by-elections though...

(The Brexit Party itself is also deeply obscure)

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1103009819517218819

Based on my (very limited) knowledge of the global tariff regime, this sounds rather New Zealand-ish. Not quite unilateral free trade, but not a million miles from it. Mildly encouraging if true.

Farage got 32% in Thanet South in 2015 and UKIP only lost the Heywood and Middleton by election by 600 votes.

If Brexit looks like being revoked the Brexit Party will soon become a focal point of Leaver revolt

The Brexit Party will have to see off UKIP - which for all its newly acquired extremists has the advantage of brand recognition.

Farage will carry the name recognition with him, UKIP are still nowhere near the levels they reached when he led the party and the prospect of no Brexit would enable him to reach for the same voters he won from 2010 to 2015 and add on more furious Tory and Labour Leavers besides

I suspect you underestimate the extent to which voters - including Leave voters - are keen to move on from Brexit. He probably lacks the receptive audience of 2015/2016 when much of his support was based on anti-establishment feelings rather than the EU issue per se. Many are now likely to seek alternative vehicles as a means of venting their displeasure.

Casino_Royale said:

HYUFD said:

Sean_F said:

Endillion said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Yorkcity said:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/05/tories-suspend-14-members-
Saw this on the BBC news at 6
Looks like only the Lib Dems do not have a problem.

Looks as if Warsi is after Boris.

She can bloody have him.

The Conservative Party would be better off without either.

No, Boris knows how to win votes, like him or loathe him as his Mayoral wins and the Leave win showed

Things have moved on a lot since then.

TheJezziah said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheJezziah said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Labour Live organizers will be on the phone shortly asking if they can book for this years festival....

Belgium anti-Semitism row over stereotyped Jews in carnival float

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47454415

Given your not a Tory as we've discussed before and you are usually all over racism stories I thought you would have been all over the Tory racism story today...

Strangely for someone who is usually such a valiant fighter against discrimination instead nothing much. I don't want to be cynical so I'll just assume you'll be posting lots about it soon.

I have only just got in...14 suspended by all accounts in no uncertain terms, no messing about, no ifs, no buts. Good.

While we are hearing Labour leaders office been up to all sorts trying to not suspend people.

And the candidate who was suspended and then came back in and became a candidate again, or what about the hundreds of posts on facebook groups in support of Tories about bombing mosques and such...

Not forgetting Boris remarks and lack of suspension.

I don't want to just insult you but TBH your a complete hypocrite on this, you bang on and on about Labour for political reasons but nothing on the Conservatives from you. You are free to do what you like of course but don't expect me to take your criticisms seriously when they only go one way.

TheJezziah said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

TheJezziah said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Labour Live organizers will be on the phone shortly asking if they can book for this years festival....

Belgium anti-Semitism row over stereotyped Jews in carnival float

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47454415

Given your not a Tory as we've discussed before and you are usually all over racism stories I thought you would have been all over the Tory racism story today...

Strangely for someone who is usually such a valiant fighter against discrimination instead nothing much. I don't want to be cynical so I'll just assume you'll be posting lots about it soon.

*You're.

I successfully navigated the your you're maze in my latest post though!

TheJezziah said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheJezziah said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheJezziah said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Labour Live organizers will be on the phone shortly asking if they can book for this years festival....

Belgium anti-Semitism row over stereotyped Jews in carnival float

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47454415

Given your not a Tory as we've discussed before and you are usually all over racism stories I thought you would have been all over the Tory racism story today...

Strangely for someone who is usually such a valiant fighter against discrimination instead nothing much. I don't want to be cynical so I'll just assume you'll be posting lots about it soon.

I have only just got in...14 suspended by all accounts in no uncertain terms, no messing about, no ifs, no buts. Good.

While we are hearing Labour leaders office been up to all sorts trying to not suspend people.

And the candidate who was suspended and then came back in and became a candidate again, or what about the hundreds of posts on facebook groups in support of Tories about bombing mosques and such...

Not forgetting Boris remarks and lack of suspension.

I don't want to just insult you but TBH your a complete hypocrite on this, you bang on and on about Labour for political reasons but nothing on the Conservatives from you. You are free to do what you like of course but don't expect me to take your criticisms seriously when they only go one way.

That's weird, I attack the Tories on a daily basis on here...You will be extremely hard pressed to find a positive post I have made about the Maybot ever.

What is weird is your obsession with Labour discrimination issues but your complete lack of interest in Conservative ones.

ThomasNashe said:

TheJezziah said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

TheJezziah said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Labour Live organizers will be on the phone shortly asking if they can book for this years festival....

Belgium anti-Semitism row over stereotyped Jews in carnival float

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47454415

Given your not a Tory as we've discussed before and you are usually all over racism stories I thought you would have been all over the Tory racism story today...

Strangely for someone who is usually such a valiant fighter against discrimination instead nothing much. I don't want to be cynical so I'll just assume you'll be posting lots about it soon.

*You're.

I successfully navigated the your you're maze in my latest post though!

You mean the one in which you wrote 'I don't want to just insult you but TBH your a complete hypocrite on this'?

nico67 said:

The removal of tariffs also means other countries have less incentive to do trade deals . And UK exporters will end up being priced out of foreign markets .

This looks like the capitalism on steroids so beloved of the Mogg cult .

TheJezziah said:

Benpointer said:

TheJezziah said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

TheJezziah said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Labour Live organizers will be on the phone shortly asking if they can book for this years festival....

Belgium anti-Semitism row over stereotyped Jews in carnival float

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47454415

Given your not a Tory as we've discussed before and you are usually all over racism stories I thought you would have been all over the Tory racism story today...

Strangely for someone who is usually such a valiant fighter against discrimination instead nothing much. I don't want to be cynical so I'll just assume you'll be posting lots about it soon.

*You're.

I successfully navigated the your you're maze in my latest post though!

Your singing you're own praises their.

My glorious rain as spelling king will last forever...

ThomasNashe said:

You mean the one in which you wrote 'I don't want to just insult you but TBH your a complete hypocrite on this'?

Or not.

Edit: Off to play football now so I'll enjoy further corrections when I return!

Philip_Thompson said:

TheJezziah said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheJezziah said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Labour Live organizers will be on the phone shortly asking if they can book for this years festival....

Belgium anti-Semitism row over stereotyped Jews in carnival float

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47454415

Given your not a Tory as we've discussed before and you are usually all over racism stories I thought you would have been all over the Tory racism story today...

Strangely for someone who is usually such a valiant fighter against discrimination instead nothing much. I don't want to be cynical so I'll just assume you'll be posting lots about it soon.

I have only just got in...14 suspended by all accounts in no uncertain terms, no messing about, no ifs, no buts. Good.

While we are hearing Labour leaders office been up to all sorts trying to not suspend people.

And the candidate who was suspended and then came back in and became a candidate again, or what about the hundreds of posts on facebook groups in support of Tories about bombing mosques and such...

Not forgetting Boris remarks and lack of suspension.

I don't want to just insult you but TBH your a complete hypocrite on this, you bang on and on about Labour for political reasons but nothing on the Conservatives from you. You are free to do what you like of course but don't expect me to take your criticisms seriously when they only go one way.

What Boris remarks? You mean the remarks that were entirely reasonable that got blown up, investigated and cleared?

nico67 said:

williamglenn said:

nico67 said:

This looks like the capitalism on steroids so beloved of the Mogg cult .

Which gives them an incentive to vote against the deal...

Perhaps it’s a trap to get them to vote against ! But seriously the removal of tariffs calls into question any trade deals because the UK loses its leverage . Why would a country need to do that , its exports move in tariff free and the UKs exports going the other way get shafted .

The problem is much of the general public don’t see the problems because they’ll be duped into thinking it’s good for consumers but won’t see the other side which could cost lots of jobs .

DougSeal said:

Charles said:

viewcode said:

_Anazina_ said:

viewcode said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Alanbrooke said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Further proof of Project Fear becoming Project Reality.

Big hugs for all those who had already pinned this on the Muslims.

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1102993361345171456

Are you saying there are no muslims in Ireland ?

Last time I was in Belfast I think I doubled the number of Muslims in Ireland.

The natives kept on staring at me.

I don't think they were paying attention to my Louis Vuitton loafers.

The Royal Statistical Society conference is in Belfast in September. I was thinking of staying at the Europa Hotel. My life is weird...

I can imagine the marketing emails.

“On the balance of probabilities, our conference will take place on 18-19 September”

There's a pub quiz and a dinner. Not on the same night, obvs.

The networking is amazing. At the height of the Afghan occupation I was speaking to a Colonel who'd just come back and the Civil Servant who was trying to do a census in a country where women are not allowed to contact people. There have been lectures on domestic violence and how to develop a checklist for A&E staff to detect domestic abuse. Battlefield statistics, surgical statistics, epidemiologists in Ebola hot zones, lepers in India. I've met [redacted because of namedropping] Great fun...

My favourite networking story is from a dinner at Pratt’s. My father was sitting between a senior British soldier and an Irish peer with republican leanings (this was shortkyvafter the GFA).

Over the course of dinner they figured out that they had each - literally - had the other in their sights during the Troubles but couldn’t take the shot for some reason

Physical force republicanism to the House of Lords is a hell of a journey.

justin124 said:

HYUFD said:

justin124 said:

HYUFD said:

justin124 said:

HYUFD said:

Black_Rook said:

HYUFD said:

Black_Rook said:

I was going to desist banging the homosexual drum this evening, BUT... The Graun actually did publish a piece today defending that LGBT education scheme in Birmingham, so kudos to them.

On topic: if Peterborough does go to by-election, it looks to me very much like it's the Tories' seat to lose.

Depends, if it falls after the Commons has voted for a Brexit extension or even EUref2 it would be ideal pickings for Farage's new Brexit Party as a strongly Leave seat

Farage doesn't exactly have a stellar record in by-elections though...

(The Brexit Party itself is also deeply obscure)

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1103009819517218819

Based on my (very limited) knowledge of the global tariff regime, this sounds rather New Zealand-ish. Not quite unilateral free trade, but not a million miles from it. Mildly encouraging if true.

Farage got 32% in Thanet South in 2015 and UKIP only lost the Heywood and Middleton by election by 600 votes.

If Brexit looks like being revoked the Brexit Party will soon become a focal point of Leaver revolt

The Brexit Party will have to see off UKIP - which for all its newly acquired extremists has the advantage of brand recognition.

Farage will carry the name recognition with him, UKIP are still nowhere near the levels they reached when he led the party and the prospect of no Brexit would enable him to reach for the same voters he won from 2010 to 2015 and add on more furious Tory and Labour Leavers besides

I suspect yure.

You underestimate td TIG certainly would not be benefiting.

Leave voters are only keen to move on from Brexit if Brexit is delivered first

That may apply to those who had supported UKIP for EU related reasons but will not extend to the many who were voting UKIP a few years back as a protest vote - in paricular as an alternative to the LibDems who had often benefitted in the same way prior to entering the Coalition. Time will tell!

ThomasNashe said:

To be fair to 'TheJezziah' I think everyone's favourite Tory, BigG, was being a little disingenuous when, down-thread, he characterised the Baronness's intervention as being simply about Boris. She has, in fact, claimed that the Tory Party is institutionally Islamophobic - and that TMay has been turning a blind-eye to that. The evidence of a parallel is there.

ThomasNashe said:

Sean_F said:

ThomasNashe said:

To be fair to 'TheJezziah' I think everyone's favourite Tory, BigG, was being a little disingenuous when, down-thread, he characterised the Baronness's intervention as being simply about Boris. She has, in fact, claimed that the Tory Party is institutionally Islamophobic - and that TMay has been turning a blind-eye to that. The evidence of a parallel is there.

More prominent Conservative Muslims, like Sajid Javid, Sayeed Kamal, and Nusrat Ghani, reject her allegations.

They may do, but the evidence is there. Just as a few obscure Labour activists are tweeting anti-Semitic tropes, so a few equivalents in the Tory backwaters approvingly retweet Tommy R.

ThomasNashe said:

To be fair to 'TheJezziah' I think everyone's favourite Tory, BigG, was being a little disingenuous when, down-thread, he characterised the Baronness's intervention as being simply about Boris. She has, in fact, claimed that the Tory Party is institutionally Islamophobic - and that TMay has been turning a blind-eye to that. The evidence of a parallel is there.

Cyclefree said:

ThomasNashe said:

To be fair to 'TheJezziah' I think everyone's favourite Tory, BigG, was being a little disingenuous when, down-thread, he characterised the Baronness's intervention as being simply about Boris. She has, in fact, claimed that the Tory Party is institutionally Islamophobic - and that TMay has been turning a blind-eye to that. The evidence of a parallel is there.

There may well be issues with a dislike of Muslims within some within the Tory party and those who behave badly towards Muslim Tory MPs should be disciplined. There should be no argument about that. The last thing the Tories should do is ignore small problems and watch them become big ones, as Labour have done.

Warsi is, however, not entirely reliable on this issue. Both while she was a Minister and increasingly since being dismissed she has severely criticised those like Saira Khan who have tried to do much to stop Islamist extremism and speak up for liberal Muslims and has associated herself with some very dubious extremist Muslim groups who express views which ought to be abhorrent to any decent Tory, any decent Labour person, frankly, any decent person. If she wants to criticise hatred against Muslims and be taken seriously, she should not associate herself with outfits like MEND and Interpal who preach hatred against people who are not Muslims.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

ThomasNashe said:

To be fair to 'TheJezziah' I think everyone's favourite Tory, BigG, was being a little disingenuous when, down-thread, he characterised the Baronness's intervention as being simply about Boris. She has, in fact, claimed that the Tory Party is institutionally Islamophobic - and that TMay has been turning a blind-eye to that. The evidence of a parallel is there.

I commented Boris was in her sights but of course others are and they must be dealt with

Endillion said:

ThomasNashe said:

Sean_F said:

ThomasNashe said:

To be fair to 'TheJezziah' I think everyone's favourite Tory, BigG, was being a little disingenuous when, down-thread, he characterised the Baronness's intervention as being simply about Boris. She has, in fact, claimed that the Tory Party is institutionally Islamophobic - and that TMay has been turning a blind-eye to that. The evidence of a parallel is there.

More prominent Conservative Muslims, like Sajid Javid, Sayeed Kamal, and Nusrat Ghani, reject her allegations.

They may do, but the evidence is there. Just as a few obscure Labour activists are tweeting anti-Semitic tropes, so a few equivalents in the Tory backwaters approvingly retweet Tommy R.

You'd really have thought that the much larger, better organised, more tech-savvy, better motivated legion of Corbyn fans on social media would be doing a better job of highlighting this. Maybe they're all too busy?

justin124 said:

ThomasNashe said:

Endillion said:

ThomasNashe said:

Sean_F said:

ThomasNashe said:

To be fair to 'TheJezziah' I think everyone's favourite Tory, BigG, was being a little disingenuous when, down-thread, he characterised the Baronness's intervention as being simply about Boris. She has, in fact, claimed that the Tory Party is institutionally Islamophobic - and that TMay has been turning a blind-eye to that. The evidence of a parallel is there.

More prominent Conservative Muslims, like Sajid Javid, Sayeed Kamal, and Nusrat Ghani, reject her allegations.

They may do, but the evidence is there. Just as a few obscure Labour activists are tweeting anti-Semitic tropes, so a few equivalents in the Tory backwaters approvingly retweet Tommy R.

You'd really have thought that the much larger, better organised, more tech-savvy, better motivated legion of Corbyn fans on social media would be doing a better job of highlighting this. Maybe they're all too busy?

They won't be turning their attention to the Tories until they've rooted out all the Blairites - Tom Watson, in particular.

Tom Watson was a Brownite - no Blairite.

DougSeal said:

MaxPB said:

williamglenn said:

MaxPB said:

Gardenwalker said:

MaxPB said:

Gardenwalker said:

MaxPB said:

rottenborough said:

What has happened to our country?

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1103004228262526984

MPs decides to take it upon themselves to frustrate the votes of 17m people.

I don't agree with any violence towards MPs, but the reaction shouldn't come as too much of a surprise.

Additionally calling some of the ones who work on behalf of their masters in Brussels traitors isn't a crime, it's pointing out the obvious.

This is a grossly irresponsible position to take.

Not really. What you're suggesting is that the people should have no reaction when MPs conspire to subvert democracy, they should just shut up and accept it, do as they are told by their masters.

Im afraid I don’t accept your framing of the situation, indeed I find it offensive.

Of course you don't accept it, but I suppose you're quite happy with a life of subservience, whether to MPs or the EU.

What you find offensive is precisely the refusal of so many of us to be subservient to your fascistic conception of "the will of the people".

Not at all, I have no issue with the remain marches and protests. That is your right. The elected representatives don't have that right. They have been told what to do and many of them are now refusing to carry it out.

1) Elected representatives have every right to act within their competencies however they see fit and are answerable only to their constituents at an election. The referendum binds no-one legally or morally. No one has the right to break the law. The referendum was an instruction to the executive, who have failed to carry it out with any competence, not the legislature. As the famous eaflet said “The Government will...” - it didn’t and couldn’t bind Parliament.

2) “Refusing to carry it out” appears to mean that those who voted for Artlce 50 and also the Withdrawal Agreement. That is wholly in keeping with the referendum.

MPs answer to their constituents at elections. Any suggestion that it is in any way legitimate for them to be swayed by violence or threads thereof by individuals is the exact opposite of democracy.

rottenborough said:

https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/1103036564861583362

Well, he doesn't need a peerage.

Cyclefree said:

ThomasNashe said:

To be fair to 'TheJezziah' I think everyone's favourite Tory, BigG, was being a little disingenuous when, down-thread, he characterised the Baronness's intervention as being simply about Boris. She has, in fact, claimed that the Tory Party is institutionally Islamophobic - and that TMay has been turning a blind-eye to that. The evidence of a parallel is there.

There may well be issues with a dislike of Muslims within some within the Tory party and those who behave badly towards Muslim Tory MPs should be disciplined. There should be no argument about that. The last thing the Tories should do is ignore small problems and watch them become big ones, as Labour have done.

Warsi is, however, not entirely reliable on this issue. Both while she was a Minister and increasingly since being dismissed she has severely criticised those like Saira Khan who have tried to do much to stop Islamist extremism and speak up for liberal Muslims and has associated herself with some very dubious extremist Muslim groups who express views which ought to be abhorrent to any decent Tory, any decent Labour person, frankly, any decent person. If she wants to criticise hatred against Muslims and be taken seriously, she should not associate herself with outfits like MEND and Interpal who preach hatred against people who are not Muslims.

another_richard said:

Wasn't someone claiming yesterday that the London property market was a disaster ?

' London’s skyline continues to head upwards, with a record 76 tall buildings due to be completed this year, a three-fold increase from 2018.

The number of tall towers – more than 20 storeys high – planned or under construction has also hit a new record of 541, up from 510 in 2017, according to the latest research from the industry forum New London Architecture (NLA). '

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/mar/05/tall-buildings-london-skyline-2019

Charles said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Charles said:

viewcode said:

_Anazina_ said:

viewcode said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Alanbrooke said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Further proof of Project Fear becoming Project Reality.

Big hugs for all those who had already pinned this on the Muslims.

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1102993361345171456

Are you saying there are no muslims in Ireland ?

Last time I was in Belfast I think I doubled the number of Muslims in Ireland.

The natives kept on staring at me.

I don't think they were paying attention to my Louis Vuitton loafers.

The Royal Statistical Society conference is in Belfast in September. I was thinking of staying at the Europa Hotel. My life is weird...

I can imagine the marketing emails.

“On the balance of probabilities, our conference will take place on 18-19 September”

There's a pub quiz and a dinner. Not on the same night, obvs.

The networking is amazing. At the height of the Afghan occupation I was speaking to a Colonel who'd just come back and the Civil Servant who was trying to do a census in a country where women are not allowed to contact people. There have been lectures on domestic violence and how to develop a checklist for A&E staff to detect domestic abuse. Battlefield statistics, surgical statistics, epidemiologists in Ebola hot zones, lepers in India. I've met [redacted because of namedropping] Great fun...

My favourite networking story is from a dinner at Pratt’s. My father was sitting between a senior British soldier and an Irish peer with republican leanings (this was shortkyvafter the GFA).

Over the course of dinner they figured out that they had each - literally - had the other in their sights during the Troubles but couldn’t take the shot for some reason

Your father had a Provo AND a Rupert in his sights? Some man yer da!

Only over dinner - it was the other two who’d been eyeing each other up. (You’ll be pleased to know they compromised on whisky)

Charles said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Charles said:

viewcode said:

_Anazina_ said:

viewcode said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Alanbrooke said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Further proof of Project Fear becoming Project Reality.

Big hugs for all those who had already pinned this on the Muslims.

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1102993361345171456

Are you saying there are no muslims in Ireland ?

Last time I was in Belfast I think I doubled the number of Muslims in Ireland.

The natives kept on staring at me.

I don't think they were paying attention to my Louis Vuitton loafers.

The Royal Statistical Society conference is in Belfast in September. I was thinking of staying at the Europa Hotel. My life is weird...

I can imagine the marketing emails.

“On the balance of probabilities, our conference will take place on 18-19 September”

There's a pub quiz and a dinner. Not on the same night, obvs.

The networking is amazing. At the height of the Afghan occupation I was speaking to a Colonel who'd just come back and the Civil Servant who was trying to do a census in a country where women are not allowed to contact people. There have been lectures on domestic violence and how to develop a checklist for A&E staff to detect domestic abuse. Battlefield statistics, surgical statistics, epidemiologists in Ebola hot zones, lepers in India. I've met [redacted because of namedropping] Great fun...

My favourite networking story is from a dinner at Pratt’s. My father was sitting between a senior British soldier and an Irish peer with republican leanings (this was shortkyvafter the GFA).

Over the course of dinner they figured out that they had each - literally - had the other in their sights during the Troubles but couldn’t take the shot for some reason

Your father had a Provo AND a Rupert in his sights? Some man yer da!

Only over dinner - it was the other two who’d been eyeing each other up. (You’ll be pleased to know they compromised on whisky)

El_Capitano said:

Just sent a text to a friend about something I'd seen at the local Coop. My iPhone tried to autocomplete it to "Cooper-Letwin Amendment". Ever get the feeling this has all gone a bit far?

Anorak said:

another_richard said:

Wasn't someone claiming yesterday that the London property market was a disaster ?

' London’s skyline continues to head upwards, with a record 76 tall buildings due to be completed this year, a three-fold increase from 2018.

The number of tall towers – more than 20 storeys high – planned or under construction has also hit a new record of 541, up from 510 in 2017, according to the latest research from the industry forum New London Architecture (NLA). '

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/mar/05/tall-buildings-london-skyline-2019

Last days of the Aztecs.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

ThomasNashe said:

To be fair to 'TheJezziah' I think everyone's favourite Tory, BigG, was being a little disingenuous when, down-thread, he characterised the Baronness's intervention as being simply about Boris. She has, in fact, claimed that the Tory Party is institutionally Islamophobic - and that TMay has been turning a blind-eye to that. The evidence of a parallel is there.

I commented Boris was in her sights but of course others are and they must be dealt with

ThomasNashe said:

justin124 said:

ThomasNashe said:

Endillion said:

ThomasNashe said:

Sean_F said:

ThomasNashe said:

To be fair to 'TheJezziah' I think everyone's favourite Tory, BigG, was being a little disingenuous when, down-thread, he characterised the Baronness's intervention as being simply about Boris. She has, in fact, claimed that the Tory Party is institutionally Islamophobic - and that TMay has been turning a blind-eye to that. The evidence of a parallel is there.

More prominent Conservative Muslims, like Sajid Javid, Sayeed Kamal, and Nusrat Ghani, reject her allegations.

They may do, but the evidence is there. Just as a few obscure Labour activists are tweeting anti-Semitic tropes, so a few equivalents in the Tory backwaters approvingly retweet Tommy R.

You'd really have thought that the much larger, better organised, more tech-savvy, better motivated legion of Corbyn fans on social media would be doing a better job of highlighting this. Maybe they're all too busy?

They won't be turning their attention to the Tories until they've rooted out all the Blairites - Tom Watson, in particular.

Tom Watson was a Brownite - no Blairite.

Yes, I clearly need an irony emoji.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Real -1 Ajax 4 (yes 4)

Charles said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Charles said:

viewcode said:

_Anazina_ said:

viewcode said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Alanbrooke said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Further proof of Project Fear becoming Project Reality.

Big hugs for all those who had already pinned this on the Muslims.

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1102993361345171456

Are you saying there are no muslims in Ireland ?

Last time I was in Belfast I think I doubled the number of Muslims in Ireland.

The natives kept on staring at me.

I don't think they were paying attention to my Louis Vuitton loafers.

The Royal Statistical Society conference is in Belfast in September. I was thinking of staying at the Europa Hotel. My life is weird...

I can imagine the marketing emails.

“On the balance of probabilities, our conference will take place on 18-19 September”

There's a pub quiz and a dinner. Not on the same night, obvs.

The networking is amazing. At the height of the Afghan occupation I was speaking to a Colonel who'd just come back and the Civil Servant who was trying to do a census in a country where women are not allowed to contact people. There have been lectures on domestic violence and how to develop a checklist for A&E staff to detect domestic abuse. Battlefield statistics, surgical statistics, epidemiologists in Ebola hot zones, lepers in India. I've met [redacted because of namedropping] Great fun...

My favourite networking story is from a dinner at Pratt’s. My father was sitting between a senior British soldier and an Irish peer with republican leanings (this was shortkyvafter the GFA).

Over the course of dinner they figured out that they had each - literally - had the other in their sights during the Troubles but couldn’t take the shot for some reason

Your father had a Provo AND a Rupert in his sights? Some man yer da!

Only over dinner - it was the other two who’d been eyeing each other up. (You’ll be pleased to know they compromised on whisky)

Big_G_NorthWales said:

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Real -1 Ajax 4 (yes 4)

Not sure which is the biggest shock from this round? Real going out or Spurs utterly cruising through.

Real scoreline is astonishing

another_richard said:

Wasn't someone claiming yesterday that the London property market was a disaster ?

' London’s skyline continues to head upwards, with a record 76 tall buildings due to be completed this year, a three-fold increase from 2018.

The number of tall towers – more than 20 storeys high – planned or under construction has also hit a new record of 541, up from 510 in 2017, according to the latest research from the industry forum New London Architecture (NLA). '

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/mar/05/tall-buildings-london-skyline-2019

rottenborough said:

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/CohenJust/status/1103042402258956288

Desperate and far far too late.

kle4 said:

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1103048830512230400

They'd be beyond stupid to not give Falconer whatever assurances he needs to accept the role at this point.

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Black_Rook said:

I was going to desist banging the homosexual drum this evening, BUT... The Graun actually did publish a piece today defending that LGBT education scheme in Birmingham, so kudos to them.

On topic: if Peterborough does go to by-election, it looks to me very much like it's the Tories' seat to lose.

Farage doesn't exactly have a stellar record in by-elections though...

(The Brexit Party itself is also deeply obscure)

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1103009819517218819

Based on my (very limited) knowledge of the global tariff regime, this sounds rather New Zealand-ish. Not quite unilateral free trade, but not a million miles from it. Mildly encouraging if true.

Farage got 32% in Thanet South in 2015 and UKIP only lost the Heywood and Middleton by election by 600 votes.

If Brexit looks like being revoked the Brexit Party will soon become a focal point of Leaver revolt

The Brexit Party will have to see off UKIP - which for all its newly acquired extremists has the advantage of brand recognition.

Farage will cares

I suspect yure.

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17 million people voted Leave, almost 4 times the 4.3 million who voted UKIP at the 2014 European elections or the 3.8 million who voted UKIP at the 2015 general election, if Brexit were to be revoked and that Leave vote reversed Farage's party and UKIP would see a protest vote from betrayed Leavers which would dwarf the 2010 to 2015 one

Indeed so - but people voted in the Referendum on both sides because they were exhorted to do so over an extended campaign period of several months. Many voted without having strong feelings on the issue one way or the other - myself included - and a considerable number were clearly very uncertain about an issue which to them was highly technical. Most people were somewhere in the middle - and in the end came down on one side or the other . I suspect that relatively few really felt they understood the issues at stake, and whilst a minority will doubtless be up in arms the majority will be very keen to move on.

A minority could be enough for Brexit Party/UKIP to win under FPTP, even 25% from angry Leavers could give them the balance of power in a hung parliament if Brexit were revoked