politicalbetting.com » Blog Archive » Some comfort for TMay from YouGov – 56% of those polled have f
Options
Comments
-
Because its easier to claim that than face up to the fact you are an idiotic windbag?RobD said:AndyJS said:The BBC's re-boot of Question Time with new presenter Fiona Bruce runs into one or two difficulties.
"Diane Abbott accuses BBC Question Time of legitimising racism
Labour MP’s spokesperson claims she was mocked and interrupted more than other panellists"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/18/diane-abbott-accuses-bbc-question-time-of-legitimising-racism
What’s that got to do with race?0 -
Aaahh…. so she is criticised because she is black?? utter bullshit, she is criticised because she talks bollocks.AndyJS said:The BBC's re-boot of Question Time with new presenter Fiona Bruce runs into one or two difficulties.
"Diane Abbott accuses BBC Question Time of legitimising racism
Labour MP’s spokesperson claims she was mocked and interrupted more than other panellists"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/18/diane-abbott-accuses-bbc-question-time-of-legitimising-racism0 -
It is perhaps possible that people might mock and interrupt someone for reasons other than race, but I doubt she wants to turn her mind to that question.AndyJS said:The BBC's re-boot of Question Time with new presenter Fiona Bruce runs into one or two difficulties.
"Diane Abbott accuses BBC Question Time of legitimising racism
Labour MP’s spokesperson claims she was mocked and interrupted more than other panellists"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/18/diane-abbott-accuses-bbc-question-time-of-legitimising-racism
Admittedly given she does undoubtedly face racist abuse I imagine she perceives a lot of criticism as so motivated.0 -
Given many people find clowns scary and not funny, I think the description is apt.Chris said:
This is the same Andrea Leadsom who said that no-deal doesn't necessarily mean there isn't a Withdrawal Agreement.williamglenn said:
These people can't fairly be described as clowns, because they're not even funny any more.0 -
WE r now x1 every 2 weeks, its ok .. any longer wait would be an issue.Big_G_NorthWales said:
They like North Wales. Should come here, only need to do it once every four weeks !!!!!!SquareRoot said:
He will keep himself busy putting the bins outkle4 said:
Philip May has his work cut out for him trying to just enjoy the evening.Benpointer said:0 -
-
Sounds like a peaceful and legitimate request to me.williamglenn said:
“Pineapple and cheese on a stick, anyone?”Benpointer said:
Blimey, Theresa, Arlene and Nigel. What a fun night that is likely to be.williamglenn said:0 -
Except, May doesn't believe that the EU have presented their FINAL deal. And all experience of previous EU summits suggests that is a correct reading.....williamglenn said:
Article 50 is revocable, as Donald Tusk told them before they voted. There is a legal default, but a political choice between three options: deal, no deal, Remain.Big_G_NorthWales said:Ben Bradshaw just shows how poor mps knowledge is
He just said that if the Brexiteers want their brexit, the idea they could get the deal they want through the HOC is for the birds
While he voted against A50, 498 of his colleagues did making A50 no deal default0 -
I do not disagree but if nothing is agreed and passes the HOC we leave with no dealwilliamglenn said:
Article 50 is revocable, as Donald Tusk told them before they voted. There is a legal default, but a political choice between three options: deal, no deal, Remain.Big_G_NorthWales said:Ben Bradshaw just shows how poor mps knowledge is
He just said that if the Brexiteers want their brexit, the idea they could get the deal they want through the HOC is for the birds
While he voted against A50, 498 of his colleagues did making A50 no deal default0 -
Hang on - I thought all leavers were supposed to be racist, shouty idiots?Scott_P said:0 -
Equality of mockery requires equality of talking bollocks, Diane.AndyJS said:The BBC's re-boot of Question Time with new presenter Fiona Bruce runs into one or two difficulties.
"Diane Abbott accuses BBC Question Time of legitimising racism
Labour MP’s spokesperson claims she was mocked and interrupted more than other panellists"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/18/diane-abbott-accuses-bbc-question-time-of-legitimising-racism0 -
Very controversialBenpointer said:
Sounds very efficient!Big_G_NorthWales said:
They like North Wales. Should come here, only need to do it once every four weeks !!!!!!SquareRoot said:
He will keep himself busy putting the bins outkle4 said:
Philip May has his work cut out for him trying to just enjoy the evening.Benpointer said:0 -
Because it is not in the political interests of too many people to do so. It's not in Corbyn's interests, or May's. albeit for him its because he can see a GE win out of this with maximum chaos and she is simply too lacking in authority to bend any further without breaking in half. It's certainly not in the interests of the LDs or SNP. And the EU would rather we junk the whole thing so offering anything further is not in their interests either.notme2 said:
And in concert with that is the corollary that for all of them no deal, however bad for the country, or even them politically, is seen as better than the political cost of giving in. It's sad. May at least gave in quite a bit to get an agreement, but it was for naught.0 -
Well, I suppose you could always vote for a different council.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Very controversialBenpointer said:
Sounds very efficient!Big_G_NorthWales said:
They like North Wales. Should come here, only need to do it once every four weeks !!!!!!SquareRoot said:
He will keep himself busy putting the bins outkle4 said:
Philip May has his work cut out for him trying to just enjoy the evening.Benpointer said:0 -
He has a point - we voted to leaveBenpointer said:
Wishing it isn't going to make it happen David.David_Evershed said:
Since we have alreday voted to leave in the first referendum, any second referendum would need to be a choice betwen two leave options.Scott_P said:0 -
How do you know she doesn't believe the EU have presented their FINAL deal?MarqueeMark said:
Except, May doesn't believe that the EU have presented their FINAL deal. And all experience of previous EU summits suggests that is a correct reading.....williamglenn said:
Article 50 is revocable, as Donald Tusk told them before they voted. There is a legal default, but a political choice between three options: deal, no deal, Remain.Big_G_NorthWales said:Ben Bradshaw just shows how poor mps knowledge is
He just said that if the Brexiteers want their brexit, the idea they could get the deal they want through the HOC is for the birds
While he voted against A50, 498 of his colleagues did making A50 no deal default0 -
"Zimbabwe blocks Facebook, WhatsApp and Twitter amid crackdown"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-469172590 -
Vote to rid ourselves of this utterly useless labour government in Cardiff, now headed by a CorbynistaBenpointer said:
Well, I suppose you could always vote for a different council.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Very controversialBenpointer said:
Sounds very efficient!Big_G_NorthWales said:
They like North Wales. Should come here, only need to do it once every four weeks !!!!!!SquareRoot said:
He will keep himself busy putting the bins outkle4 said:
Philip May has his work cut out for him trying to just enjoy the evening.Benpointer said:0 -
You might think that, huh? But rather, its objective has been to prevent a formula that other countries might look at and go "You know what, that arrangment will work for us too..."FF43 said:The EU's objective from the start has been to get through Brexit with the least additional damage to itself.
0 -
Your bin collections are decided in Cardiff?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Vote to rid ourselves of this utterly useless labour government in Cardiff, now headed by a CorbynistaBenpointer said:
Well, I suppose you could always vote for a different council.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Very controversialBenpointer said:
Sounds very efficient!Big_G_NorthWales said:
They like North Wales. Should come here, only need to do it once every four weeks !!!!!!SquareRoot said:
He will keep himself busy putting the bins outkle4 said:
Philip May has his work cut out for him trying to just enjoy the evening.Benpointer said:0 -
I'll try and make it easy for Tezzie.
100 MPs think your deal is too BINO.
400 MPs think your deal is not BINO enough.
Which way should you move to get more MPs to support your deal?
I'll give you a clue - it doesn't involve inviting the ERG and the bowler hats round for tea and biscuits.0 -
Because she wouldn't still be calling these EU leaders up if she thought it was now a purely UK decision point.Benpointer said:
How do you know she doesn't believe the EU have presented their FINAL deal?MarqueeMark said:
Except, May doesn't believe that the EU have presented their FINAL deal. And all experience of previous EU summits suggests that is a correct reading.....williamglenn said:
Article 50 is revocable, as Donald Tusk told them before they voted. There is a legal default, but a political choice between three options: deal, no deal, Remain.Big_G_NorthWales said:Ben Bradshaw just shows how poor mps knowledge is
He just said that if the Brexiteers want their brexit, the idea they could get the deal they want through the HOC is for the birds
While he voted against A50, 498 of his colleagues did making A50 no deal default
0 -
surely she would for the political declarationMarqueeMark said:
Because she wouldn't still be calling these EU leaders up if she thought it was now a purely UK decision point.Benpointer said:
How do you know she doesn't believe the EU have presented their FINAL deal?MarqueeMark said:
Except, May doesn't believe that the EU have presented their FINAL deal. And all experience of previous EU summits suggests that is a correct reading.....williamglenn said:
Article 50 is revocable, as Donald Tusk told them before they voted. There is a legal default, but a political choice between three options: deal, no deal, Remain.Big_G_NorthWales said:Ben Bradshaw just shows how poor mps knowledge is
He just said that if the Brexiteers want their brexit, the idea they could get the deal they want through the HOC is for the birds
While he voted against A50, 498 of his colleagues did making A50 no deal default0 -
Zimbabweans will have to talk to each other.AndyJS said:"Zimbabwe blocks Facebook, WhatsApp and Twitter amid crackdown"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-469172590 -
"It's complicated"AndyJS said:"Zimbabwe blocks Facebook, WhatsApp and Twitter amid crackdown"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-469172590 -
Yes but we did the "no sensible country should ever contemplate doing anything quite so stupid" bit all on our own. The EU didn't have to do anything there. Stopping Brexit damaging them takes more effort but they have a reasonable job so far. Ireland is obviously a big concern and the other countries a much smaller concern.MarqueeMark said:
You might think that, huh? But rather, its objective has been to prevent a formula that other countries might look at and go "You know what, that arrangment will work for us too..."FF43 said:The EU's objective from the start has been to get through Brexit with the least additional damage to itself.
0 -
They really worry too much about that. It has been plenty chaotic and divisive enough to put paid to that for a good many years unless we are an unquestionable success (and even that would take years to be apparent), so they really could have been more flexible. No deal is not a win for them after all, but they seem determined to get that or remain.MarqueeMark said:
You might think that, huh? But rather, its objective has been to prevent a formula that other countries might look at and go "You know what, that arrangment will work for us too..."FF43 said:The EU's objective from the start has been to get through Brexit with the least additional damage to itself.
0 -
Can we block Facebook, WhatsApp and Twitter from Westminster and get our MPs to talk to each other?SandyRentool said:
Zimbabweans will have to talk to each other.AndyJS said:"Zimbabwe blocks Facebook, WhatsApp and Twitter amid crackdown"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-469172590 -
When you have a LOTO like Corbyn....its always goingbto be difficult. Heisnt backing Britain at allSandyRentool said:I'll try and make it easy for Tezzie.
100 MPs think your deal is too BINO.
400 MPs think your deal is not BINO enough.
Which way should you move to get more MPs to support your deal?
I'll give you a clue - it doesn't involve inviting the ERG and the bowler hats round for tea and biscuits.0 -
No, but as you well know, Welsh Government funding forms the bulk of cash used by councils to fund services, including waste provision.Benpointer said:
Your bin collections are decided in Cardiff?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Vote to rid ourselves of this utterly useless labour government in Cardiff, now headed by a CorbynistaBenpointer said:
Well, I suppose you could always vote for a different council.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Very controversialBenpointer said:
Sounds very efficient!Big_G_NorthWales said:
They like North Wales. Should come here, only need to do it once every four weeks !!!!!!SquareRoot said:
He will keep himself busy putting the bins outkle4 said:
Philip May has his work cut out for him trying to just enjoy the evening.Benpointer said:
Six councils have been worst hit by the Welsh Government's 208-2019 council funding cuts: They are the Isle of Anglesey, Conwy, Flintshire, Powys, Monmouthshire and Gwynedd. Notice anything they have in common?
By contrast, six South Wales councils are not getting cut, but are in fact getting more cash.
It's a tricky one, but see if you can guess the political complexion of the Councils getting more cash?
0 -
But obviously that would involve a danger of splitting the parliamentary Tory party almost exactly in two.SandyRentool said:I'll try and make it easy for Tezzie.
100 MPs think your deal is too BINO.
400 MPs think your deal is not BINO enough.
Which way should you move to get more MPs to support your deal?
I'll give you a clue - it doesn't involve inviting the ERG and the bowler hats round for tea and biscuits.0 -
Big g knows they are not, he is just ramping a conservative tag line.Benpointer said:
Your bin collections are decided in Cardiff?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Vote to rid ourselves of this utterly useless labour government in Cardiff, now headed by a CorbynistaBenpointer said:
Well, I suppose you could always vote for a different council.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Very controversialBenpointer said:
Sounds very efficient!Big_G_NorthWales said:
They like North Wales. Should come here, only need to do it once every four weeks !!!!!!SquareRoot said:
He will keep himself busy putting the bins outkle4 said:
Philip May has his work cut out for him trying to just enjoy the evening.Benpointer said:
He is not that thick.0 -
That doesn't mean she doe snot believe they have presented their final deal, it could just mean even though she believes they have she has no other option that to try to get them to offer something.MarqueeMark said:
Because she wouldn't still be calling these EU leaders up if she thought it was now a purely UK decision point.Benpointer said:
How do you know she doesn't believe the EU have presented their FINAL deal?MarqueeMark said:
Except, May doesn't believe that the EU have presented their FINAL deal. And all experience of previous EU summits suggests that is a correct reading.....williamglenn said:
Article 50 is revocable, as Donald Tusk told them before they voted. There is a legal default, but a political choice between three options: deal, no deal, Remain.Big_G_NorthWales said:Ben Bradshaw just shows how poor mps knowledge is
He just said that if the Brexiteers want their brexit, the idea they could get the deal they want through the HOC is for the birds
While he voted against A50, 498 of his colleagues did making A50 no deal default
It seems pointless. We've had plenty of crunchpoints in the past months, and the EU have not only not budged they seem to have gotten harder. May should have been replaced after the summer when the much trailed positive response to her initial proposal (albeit without expectation it would be adopted in full) not only did not materialise but was met with blunt and brutal rejection.0 -
Welsh Government funding forms the bulk of cash used by councils to fund services, including leisure centres, schools, waste and care provision.Yorkcity said:
Big g knows they are not, he is just ramping a conservative tag line.Benpointer said:
Your bin collections are decided in Cardiff?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Vote to rid ourselves of this utterly useless labour government in Cardiff, now headed by a CorbynistaBenpointer said:
Well, I suppose you could always vote for a different council.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Very controversialBenpointer said:
Sounds very efficient!Big_G_NorthWales said:
They like North Wales. Should come here, only need to do it once every four weeks !!!!!!SquareRoot said:
He will keep himself busy putting the bins outkle4 said:
Philip May has his work cut out for him trying to just enjoy the evening.Benpointer said:
He is not that thick.
Conwy Council is being cut by the Welsh Government.0 -
It has seemed pretty apparent to me for quite some time that the cost of a getting a Brexit deal would be the fall of the Tory government, both for the reason you mention and the DUP. Sucks for them, but if May and most of her party do not, in fact, believe no deal is better than a bad deal, then the national interest they talk about would be to do what it takes to get a deal through even at the cost of a split and a fall.Chris said:
But obviously that would involve a danger of splitting the parliamentary Tory party almost exactly in two.SandyRentool said:I'll try and make it easy for Tezzie.
100 MPs think your deal is too BINO.
400 MPs think your deal is not BINO enough.
Which way should you move to get more MPs to support your deal?
I'll give you a clue - it doesn't involve inviting the ERG and the bowler hats round for tea and biscuits.0 -
#1470 Band D average. Amazingly cheapYBarddCwsc said:
Welsh Government funding forms the bulk of cash used by councils to fund services, including leisure centres, schools, waste and care provision.Yorkcity said:
Big g knows they are not, he is just ramping a conservative tag line.Benpointer said:
Your bin collections are decided in Cardiff?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Vote to rid ourselves of this utterly useless labour government in Cardiff, now headed by a CorbynistaBenpointer said:
Well, I suppose you could always vote for a different council.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Very controversialBenpointer said:
Sounds very efficient!Big_G_NorthWales said:
They like North Wales. Should come here, only need to do it once every four weeks !!!!!!SquareRoot said:
He will keep himself busy putting the bins outkle4 said:
Philip May has his work cut out for him trying to just enjoy the evening.Benpointer said:
He is not that thick.
Conwy Council is being cut by the Welsh Government.0 -
A reasonable job in stopping damaging their economies? When we are 70 days from a No Deal that puts many of them into recession? Yeah, right. Reasonable job my arse.FF43 said:
Yes but we did the "no sensible country should ever contemplate doing anything quite so stupid" bit all on our own. The EU didn't have to do anything there. Stopping Brexit damaging them takes more effort but they have a reasonable job so far. Ireland is obviously a big concern and the other countries a much smaller concern.MarqueeMark said:
You might think that, huh? But rather, its objective has been to prevent a formula that other countries might look at and go "You know what, that arrangment will work for us too..."FF43 said:The EU's objective from the start has been to get through Brexit with the least additional damage to itself.
0 -
Indeed. By such metrics, all complaints about Labour councils in England should be directed to CCHQ.Yorkcity said:
Big g knows they are not, he is just ramping a conservative tag line.Benpointer said:
Your bin collections are decided in Cardiff?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Vote to rid ourselves of this utterly useless labour government in Cardiff, now headed by a CorbynistaBenpointer said:
Well, I suppose you could always vote for a different council.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Very controversialBenpointer said:
Sounds very efficient!Big_G_NorthWales said:
They like North Wales. Should come here, only need to do it once every four weeks !!!!!!SquareRoot said:
He will keep himself busy putting the bins outkle4 said:
Philip May has his work cut out for him trying to just enjoy the evening.Benpointer said:
He is not that thick.0 -
I don't know why you post these with seeming pleasure - it sucks, and EU leaders holding firm is great for your belief in their steadfastness, unfortunately it increases the risk of no deal hugely. Remain is at least now seriously on the cards, but EU leaders indulging in mockery doesn't help anything, since for all her faults May in such a position because parliament is in such a position.williamglenn said:0 -
Anyhoo, "Glass" (the sequel to "Split" and "Unbreakable") is out this week. It has received reviews that vary from "urgh" to "ohgodno". However Mark Kermode likes it, so there is that. Here's his review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkjJic3X7zo
PS in his review Kermode makes references to the Exorcist. I know, such a surprise...
0 -
Thanks for that and as YbarddCwsc explains at 9.47 the Welsh labour government, apart from being useless, only favour their own councilsYorkcity said:
Big g knows they are not, he is just ramping a conservative tag line.Benpointer said:
Your bin collections are decided in Cardiff?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Vote to rid ourselves of this utterly useless labour government in Cardiff, now headed by a CorbynistaBenpointer said:
Well, I suppose you could always vote for a different council.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Very controversialBenpointer said:
Sounds very efficient!Big_G_NorthWales said:
They like North Wales. Should come here, only need to do it once every four weeks !!!!!!SquareRoot said:
He will keep himself busy putting the bins outkle4 said:
Philip May has his work cut out for him trying to just enjoy the evening.Benpointer said:
He is not that thick.0 -
Do you really not understand why Council Tax in Conwy is cheap and Council Tax in the South East of England is so high ?Pulpstar said:
#1470 Band D average. Amazingly cheapYBarddCwsc said:
Welsh Government funding forms the bulk of cash used by councils to fund services, including leisure centres, schools, waste and care provision.Yorkcity said:
Big g knows they are not, he is just ramping a conservative tag line.Benpointer said:
Your bin collections are decided in Cardiff?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Vote to rid ourselves of this utterly useless labour government in Cardiff, now headed by a CorbynistaBenpointer said:
Well, I suppose you could always vote for a different council.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Very controversialBenpointer said:
Sounds very efficient!Big_G_NorthWales said:
They like North Wales. Should come here, only need to do it once every four weeks !!!!!!SquareRoot said:
He will keep himself busy putting the bins outkle4 said:
Philip May has his work cut out for him trying to just enjoy the evening.Benpointer said:
He is not that thick.
Conwy Council is being cut by the Welsh Government.
0 -
English Councils have similar cuts from the government.YBarddCwsc said:
Welsh Government funding forms the bulk of cash used by councils to fund services, including leisure centres, schools, waste and care provision.Yorkcity said:
Big g knows they are not, he is just ramping a conservative tag line.Benpointer said:
Your bin collections are decided in Cardiff?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Vote to rid ourselves of this utterly useless labour government in Cardiff, now headed by a CorbynistaBenpointer said:
Well, I suppose you could always vote for a different council.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Very controversialBenpointer said:
Sounds very efficient!Big_G_NorthWales said:
They like North Wales. Should come here, only need to do it once every four weeks !!!!!!SquareRoot said:
He will keep himself busy putting the bins outkle4 said:
Philip May has his work cut out for him trying to just enjoy the evening.Benpointer said:
He is not that thick.
Conwy Council is being cut by the Welsh Government.
However the local council makes it's own decision on bin collections.
Obtuse comes to mind.0 -
I suppose it's not a question of whether No Deal is worse, but of how much worse. And the same for Labour's calculation of its party advantage.kle4 said:
It has seemed pretty apparent to me for quite some time that the cost of a getting a Brexit deal would be the fall of the Tory government, both for the reason you mention and the DUP. Sucks for them, but if May and most of her party do not, in fact, believe no deal is better than a bad deal, then the national interest they talk about would be to do what it takes to get a deal through even at the cost of a split and a fall.Chris said:
But obviously that would involve a danger of splitting the parliamentary Tory party almost exactly in two.SandyRentool said:I'll try and make it easy for Tezzie.
100 MPs think your deal is too BINO.
400 MPs think your deal is not BINO enough.
Which way should you move to get more MPs to support your deal?
I'll give you a clue - it doesn't involve inviting the ERG and the bowler hats round for tea and biscuits.
I can see either party putting political advantage above the good of the country. I can't see them initiating absolute catastrophe for party advantage. I wonder how well informed most MPs are about what would happen if we leave with No Deal.0 -
it's --> its, Mr Obtuse.Yorkcity said:
English Councils have similar cuts from the government.YBarddCwsc said:
Welsh Government funding forms the bulk of cash used by councils to fund services, including leisure centres, schools, waste and care provision.Yorkcity said:
Big g knows they are not, he is just ramping a conservative tag line.Benpointer said:
Your bin collections are decided in Cardiff?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Vote to rid ourselves of this utterly useless labour government in Cardiff, now headed by a CorbynistaBenpointer said:
Well, I suppose you could always vote for a different council.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Very controversialBenpointer said:
Sounds very efficient!Big_G_NorthWales said:
They like North Wales. Should come here, only need to do it once every four weeks !!!!!!SquareRoot said:
He will keep himself busy putting the bins outkle4 said:
Philip May has his work cut out for him trying to just enjoy the evening.Benpointer said:
He is not that thick.
Conwy Council is being cut by the Welsh Government.
However the local council makes it's own decision on bin collections.
Obtuse comes to mind.0 -
As are the wagesPulpstar said:
#1470 Band D average. Amazingly cheapYBarddCwsc said:
Welsh Government funding forms the bulk of cash used by councils to fund services, including leisure centres, schools, waste and care provision.Yorkcity said:
Big g knows they are not, he is just ramping a conservative tag line.Benpointer said:
Your bin collections are decided in Cardiff?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Vote to rid ourselves of this utterly useless labour government in Cardiff, now headed by a CorbynistaBenpointer said:
Well, I suppose you could always vote for a different council.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Very controversialBenpointer said:
Sounds very efficient!Big_G_NorthWales said:
They like North Wales. Should come here, only need to do it once every four weeks !!!!!!SquareRoot said:
He will keep himself busy putting the bins outkle4 said:
Philip May has his work cut out for him trying to just enjoy the evening.Benpointer said:
He is not that thick.
Conwy Council is being cut by the Welsh Government.0 -
41 Admirals and 50 ships (if you count OPVs, MCMs and don't count HMS Victory)Benpointer said:
Don't we have more admirals than ships these days?
The British Army has more more horses than tanks though.0 -
I know that, and I am just teasing really.Yorkcity said:
Big g knows they are not, he is just ramping a conservative tag line.Benpointer said:
Your bin collections are decided in Cardiff?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Vote to rid ourselves of this utterly useless labour government in Cardiff, now headed by a CorbynistaBenpointer said:
Well, I suppose you could always vote for a different council.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Very controversialBenpointer said:
Sounds very efficient!Big_G_NorthWales said:
They like North Wales. Should come here, only need to do it once every four weeks !!!!!!SquareRoot said:
He will keep himself busy putting the bins outkle4 said:
Philip May has his work cut out for him trying to just enjoy the evening.Benpointer said:
He is not that thick.
Can't feel much sympathy on the Council tax front as here in North Dorset band D tax is £2,012 next year. Not sure whether that's the fault of the local council Labour opposition or the Labour opposition in Westminster? (or maybe it's the EU's fault?)
PS We do get fortnightly bin collection though!0 -
To be fair, parliament is in the position and composition due to the PM, her cabinet (all its members past and present) and MPs actions. This whole sorry saga is due to misjudgement after misjudgement and the protagonists who insist all will be alright are still whistling with their fingers in their ears!kle4 said:
I don't know why you post these with seeming pleasure - it sucks, and EU leaders holding firm is great for your belief in their steadfastness, unfortunately it increases the risk of no deal hugely. Remain is at least now seriously on the cards, but EU leaders indulging in mockery doesn't help anything, since for all her faults May in such a position because parliament is in such a position.williamglenn said:0 -
A majority of Tory MPs back May's Deal or No Deal though and it is actually about 300 MPs not 400 MPs who think May's Deal is not BINO enough (100 of the 400 MPs who voted against May's Deal were No Dealers) and 90% of those who think May's Deal is not BINO enough are not Tory MPs.SandyRentool said:I'll try and make it easy for Tezzie.
100 MPs think your deal is too BINO.
400 MPs think your deal is not BINO enough.
Which way should you move to get more MPs to support your deal?
I'll give you a clue - it doesn't involve inviting the ERG and the bowler hats round for tea and biscuits.
Hence May cannot move any further towards BINO, so votes on staying in the single market and permanently in the customs union and on EUref2 with a Remain option will have to come from MPs themselves not the PM which will come into play in the next few weeks thanks to the Grieve amendment and with Bercow's support.
0 -
When did I mention the South East of England ?!YBarddCwsc said:
Do you really not understand why Council Tax in Conwy is cheap and Council Tax in the South East of England is so high ?Pulpstar said:
#1470 Band D average. Amazingly cheapYBarddCwsc said:
Welsh Government funding forms the bulk of cash used by councils to fund services, including leisure centres, schools, waste and care provision.Yorkcity said:
Big g knows they are not, he is just ramping a conservative tag line.Benpointer said:
Your bin collections are decided in Cardiff?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Vote to rid ourselves of this utterly useless labour government in Cardiff, now headed by a CorbynistaBenpointer said:
Well, I suppose you could always vote for a different council.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Very controversialBenpointer said:
Sounds very efficient!Big_G_NorthWales said:
They like North Wales. Should come here, only need to do it once every four weeks !!!!!!SquareRoot said:
He will keep himself busy putting the bins outkle4 said:
Philip May has his work cut out for him trying to just enjoy the evening.Benpointer said:
He is not that thick.
Conwy Council is being cut by the Welsh Government.0 -
About 300 (35 SNP, 4PC, 1Grn, 10LD, c.250Lab) of those 400 won't vote for anything a Con PM puts to the House. That's why it's difficult.SandyRentool said:I'll try and make it easy for Tezzie.
100 MPs think your deal is too BINO.
400 MPs think your deal is not BINO enough.
Which way should you move to get more MPs to support your deal?
I'll give you a clue - it doesn't involve inviting the ERG and the bowler hats round for tea and biscuits.0 -
At what point does repeatedly saying repeatedly saying "nothing has changed" in response to every unfolding national crisis switch from being an amusing mental illness to a terrifying risk to national security?
Asking for a Prime Minister.0 -
Clearly they feel tanks aren't the mane event.Dura_Ace said:
41 Admirals and 50 ships (if you count OPVs, MCMs and don't count HMS Victory)Benpointer said:
Don't we have more admirals than ships these days?
The British Army has more more horses than tanks though.0 -
Perhaps the best we can hope for now is that May will carry on making the noises she thinks will keep the Tory party in one piece, but will acquiesce in the House of Commons taking the responsibility out of her hands.HYUFD said:
A majority of Tory MPs back May's Deal or No Deal though and it is actually about 300 MPs not 400 MPs who think May's Deal is not BINO enough (100 of the 400 MPs who voted against May's Deal were No Dealers) and 90% of those who think May's Deal is not BINO enough are not Tory MPs.SandyRentool said:I'll try and make it easy for Tezzie.
100 MPs think your deal is too BINO.
400 MPs think your deal is not BINO enough.
Which way should you move to get more MPs to support your deal?
I'll give you a clue - it doesn't involve inviting the ERG and the bowler hats round for tea and biscuits.
Hence May cannot move any further towards BINO, so votes on the staying in the single market and customs union and on EUref2 with a Remain option will have to come from MPs themselves not the PM which will come into play in the next few weeks thanks to the Grieve amendment and with Bercow's support.0 -
Sainsbury’s Soave or Tesco’s Fern BayFrancisUrquhart said:
Totally agree with Five guys (in the us).Charles said:FPT
@Benpointer I wish to clarify that I do, occasionally, a MaccyD although I prefer both Burger King and Five Guys. I also eat at Fullers pubs in preference to Wetherspoons.
@FrancisUrquhart boxed wine is great when you only have the occasional glass. I only bring out the good stuff when I the company of people who will appreciate it
I am, after all, a man of the people
No offense I just can’t see you sitting down on a chilly Friday night and cracking open the 3l box of vinegar tasting white wine.0 -
To spell it out, a major component of Council expenditure is wages and the cost of social care.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As are the wagesPulpstar said:
#1470 Band D average. Amazingly cheapYBarddCwsc said:
Welsh Government funding forms the bulk of cash used by councils to fund services, including leisure centres, schools, waste and care provision.Yorkcity said:
Big g knows they are not, he is just ramping a conservative tag line.Benpointer said:
Your bin collections are decided in Cardiff?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Vote to rid ourselves of this utterly useless labour government in Cardiff, now headed by a CorbynistaBenpointer said:
Well, I suppose you could always vote for a different council.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Very controversialBenpointer said:
Sounds very efficient!Big_G_NorthWales said:
They like North Wales. Should come here, only need to do it once every four weeks !!!!!!SquareRoot said:
He will keep himself busy putting the bins outkle4 said:
Philip May has his work cut out for him trying to just enjoy the evening.Benpointer said:
He is not that thick.
Conwy Council is being cut by the Welsh Government.
There are big differences in the costs of providing social care, or care for vulnerable adults, or care for the elderly, if delivered in Conwy as opposed to Cambridgeshire.
The carer in Cambridge has to be able to live -- i.e., pay his or her rent or mortgage. That is way more expensive in Cambridge than in Conwy.0 -
Loved the first two episodes of True Detective series 3, by the way.......0
-
Sounds like they're having a mare of a time in the armed forces then.ydoethur said:
Clearly they feel tanks aren't the mane event.Dura_Ace said:
41 Admirals and 50 ships (if you count OPVs, MCMs and don't count HMS Victory)Benpointer said:
Don't we have more admirals than ships these days?
The British Army has more more horses than tanks though.0 -
Tell me about it !Benpointer said:
I know that, and I am just teasing really.Yorkcity said:
Big g knows they are not, he is just ramping a conservative tag line.Benpointer said:
Your bin collections are decided in Cardiff?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Vote to rid ourselves of this utterly useless labour government in Cardiff, now headed by a CorbynistaBenpointer said:
Well, I suppose you could always vote for a different council.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Very controversialBenpointer said:
Sounds very efficient!Big_G_NorthWales said:
They like North Wales. Should come here, only need to do it once every four weeks !!!!!!SquareRoot said:
He will keep himself busy putting the bins outkle4 said:
Philip May has his work cut out for him trying to just enjoy the evening.Benpointer said:
He is not that thick.
Can't feel much sympathy on the Council tax front as here in North Dorset band D tax is £2,012 next year. Not sure whether that's the fault of the local council Labour opposition or the Labour opposition in Westminster? (or maybe it's the EU's fault?)
PS We do get fortnightly bin collection though!
Near me Rotherham and Doncaster are miles cheaper for council tax >.<
Nottinghamshire is atrocious on that front.0 -
Well, they're saddled with lots of legacy problems.kle4 said:
Sounds like they're having a mare of a time in the armed forces then.ydoethur said:
Clearly they feel tanks aren't the mane event.Dura_Ace said:
41 Admirals and 50 ships (if you count OPVs, MCMs and don't count HMS Victory)Benpointer said:
Don't we have more admirals than ships these days?
The British Army has more more horses than tanks though.0 -
I stand corrected.Dura_Ace said:
41 Admirals and 50 ships (if you count OPVs, MCMs and don't count HMS Victory)Benpointer said:
Don't we have more admirals than ships these days?
The British Army has more more horses than tanks though.
Not sure about your implication that the Army equivalent of Admirals is horses though.
At least you can ride horses.0 -
Solid logic here. The question has to be not IF there's going to be a GE this year but WHEN. https://www.politico.eu/article/why-a-uk-general-election-is-more-likely-than-you-think/0
-
I promise you I was writing my comment when you posted yours, and didn't refresh, and that I haven't just engaged in the most toe-curlingly transparent bit of plagiarism.HYUFD said:
A majority of Tory MPs back May's Deal or No Deal though and it is actually about 300 MPs not 400 MPs who think May's Deal is not BINO enough (100 of the 400 MPs who voted against May's Deal were No Dealers) and 90% of those who think May's Deal is not BINO enough are not Tory MPs.SandyRentool said:I'll try and make it easy for Tezzie.
100 MPs think your deal is too BINO.
400 MPs think your deal is not BINO enough.
Which way should you move to get more MPs to support your deal?
I'll give you a clue - it doesn't involve inviting the ERG and the bowler hats round for tea and biscuits.
Hence May cannot move any further towards BINO, so votes on staying in the single market and permanently in the customs union and on EUref2 with a Remain option will have to come from MPs themselves not the PM which will come into play in the next few weeks thanks to the Grieve amendment and with Bercow's support.0 -
Nothing actually has changed. The deal is still dead, the EU still won't come up with a new one, and many people claim to hate no deal. All that was true before and is true now, some are just even more confirmed. The choices remain the same, MPs just aren't brave enough to take the actions they claim the unchanged situation merits (or imply it merits).grabcocque said:At what point does repeatedly saying repeatedly saying "nothing has changed" in response to every unfolding national crisis switch from being an amusing mental illness to a terrifying risk to national security?
Asking for a Prime Minister.
Hence displacement activity focusing on extensions, and revocations 'to sort things out' and GEs. None of necessary, since all still require them to answer the same issues.0 -
-
Your repeated comments on TM mental illness is an insult to all the people suffering in this countrygrabcocque said:At what point does repeatedly saying repeatedly saying "nothing has changed" in response to every unfolding national crisis switch from being an amusing mental illness to a terrifying risk to national security?
Asking for a Prime Minister.
You use it to try and make yourself feel better but it is just pathetic
TM has many faults but to continue to imply she has a mental illness is absurd unless you can prove your accusation.0 -
Yes, but if you do it at sea the horses drown. It's a problem.Benpointer said:
I stand corrected.Dura_Ace said:
41 Admirals and 50 ships (if you count OPVs, MCMs and don't count HMS Victory)Benpointer said:
Don't we have more admirals than ships these days?
The British Army has more more horses than tanks though.
Not sure about your implication that the Army equivalent of Admirals is horses though.
At least you can ride horses.0 -
She will have to, the most powerful person in the country for the next few weeks is no longer Theresa May, it is John Bercow, ably supported by Dominic Grieve.Chris said:
Perhaps the best we can hope for now is that May will carry on making the noises she thinks will keep the Tory party in one piece, but will acquiesce in the House of Commons taking the responsibility out of her hands.HYUFD said:
A majority of Tory MPs back May's Deal or No Deal though and it is actually about 300 MPs not 400 MPs who think May's Deal is not BINO enough (100 of the 400 MPs who voted against May's Deal were No Dealers) and 90% of those who think May's Deal is not BINO enough are not Tory MPs.SandyRentool said:I'll try and make it easy for Tezzie.
100 MPs think your deal is too BINO.
400 MPs think your deal is not BINO enough.
Which way should you move to get more MPs to support your deal?
I'll give you a clue - it doesn't involve inviting the ERG and the bowler hats round for tea and biscuits.
Hence May cannot move any further towards BINO, so votes on the staying in the single market and customs union and on EUref2 with a Remain option will have to come from MPs themselves not the PM which will come into play in the next few weeks thanks to the Grieve amendment and with Bercow's support.
That likely means a Remain v Deal referendum, though May can at least blame it on Parliament forcing EUref2 on her rather than she proposing it herself. Secretly I also doubt she would be that unhappy, the Deal tends to be rather more popular with voters than MPs, especially if head to head with Remain and the only means to preserve Brexit0 -
No. The strategic mission to be independent and family owned on a 25, 50 and 100 year basis. The mission statement is to treat customers as we would want to be treated ourselveskle4 said:
That's not the mission statement of your company is it?Charles said:
Hated is no use unless it’s hated AND feared.AlastairMeeks said:Pity is the most dangerous emotion for her. She would do better to be hated if she wanted to achieve anything.
0 -
You mentioned Conwy is cheap. I mentioned the South of England to make the point more obvious. It is all largely down to the cost of living, particularly cost of housing.Pulpstar said:
When did I mention the South East of England ?!YBarddCwsc said:
Do you really not understand why Council Tax in Conwy is cheap and Council Tax in the South East of England is so high ?Pulpstar said:
#1470 Band D average. Amazingly cheapYBarddCwsc said:
Welsh Government funding forms the bulk of cash used by councils to fund services, including leisure centres, schools, waste and care provision.Yorkcity said:
Big g knows they are not, he is just ramping a conservative tag line.Benpointer said:
Your bin collections are decided in Cardiff?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Vote to rid ourselves of this utterly useless labour government in Cardiff, now headed by a CorbynistaBenpointer said:
Well, I suppose you could always vote for a different council.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Very controversialBenpointer said:
Sounds very efficient!Big_G_NorthWales said:
They like North Wales. Should come here, only need to do it once every four weeks !!!!!!SquareRoot said:
He will keep himself busy putting the bins outkle4 said:
Philip May has his work cut out for him trying to just enjoy the evening.Benpointer said:
He is not that thick.
Conwy Council is being cut by the Welsh Government.
0 -
Sorry 300 not 400.HYUFD said:
A majority of Tory MPs back May's Deal or No Deal though and it is actually about 300 MPs not 400 MPs who think May's Deal is not BINO enough (100 of the 400 MPs who voted against May's Deal were No Dealers) and 90% of those who think May's Deal is not BINO enough are not Tory MPs.SandyRentool said:I'll try and make it easy for Tezzie.
100 MPs think your deal is too BINO.
400 MPs think your deal is not BINO enough.
Which way should you move to get more MPs to support your deal?
I'll give you a clue - it doesn't involve inviting the ERG and the bowler hats round for tea and biscuits.
Hence May cannot move any further towards BINO, so votes on staying in the single market and permanently in the customs union and on EUref2 with a Remain option will have to come from MPs themselves not the PM which will come into play in the next few weeks thanks to the Grieve amendment and with Bercow's support.
However, just because the only route to a majority is cross party is not a reason to rule it out.
May might not want to acknowledge the reality but I think the majority of the cabinet now do.0 -
I said something similar recently, so I am therefore agreeing with you.grabcocque said:At what point does repeatedly saying repeatedly saying "nothing has changed" in response to every unfolding national crisis switch from being an amusing mental illness to a terrifying risk to national security?
Asking for a Prime Minister.
Shock! Horror!!
0 -
I hope you wish to be treated grandly, like an Ottoman Sultan then, since as a customer I would love companies to treat me that way.Charles said:
No. The strategic mission to be independent and family owned on a 25, 50 and 100 year basis. The mission statement is to treat customers as we would want to be treated ourselveskle4 said:
That's not the mission statement of your company is it?Charles said:
Hated is no use unless it’s hated AND feared.AlastairMeeks said:Pity is the most dangerous emotion for her. She would do better to be hated if she wanted to achieve anything.
0 -
Explains why the Navy cavalry didn't figure at Trafalgar I guess.viewcode said:
Yes, but if you do it at sea the horses drown. It's a problem.Benpointer said:
I stand corrected.Dura_Ace said:
41 Admirals and 50 ships (if you count OPVs, MCMs and don't count HMS Victory)Benpointer said:
Don't we have more admirals than ships these days?
The British Army has more more horses than tanks though.
Not sure about your implication that the Army equivalent of Admirals is horses though.
At least you can ride horses.0 -
Surely notDrutt said:
I promise you I was writing my comment when you posted yours, and didn't refresh, and that I haven't just engaged in the most toe-curlingly transparent bit of plagiarism.HYUFD said:
A majority of Tory MPs back May's Deal or No Deal though and it is actually about 300 MPs not 400 MPs who think May's Deal is not BINO enough (100 of the 400 MPs who voted against May's Deal were No Dealers) and 90% of those who think May's Deal is not BINO enough are not Tory MPs.SandyRentool said:I'll try and make it easy for Tezzie.
100 MPs think your deal is too BINO.
400 MPs think your deal is not BINO enough.
Which way should you move to get more MPs to support your deal?
I'll give you a clue - it doesn't involve inviting the ERG and the bowler hats round for tea and biscuits.
Hence May cannot move any further towards BINO, so votes on staying in the single market and permanently in the customs union and on EUref2 with a Remain option will have to come from MPs themselves not the PM which will come into play in the next few weeks thanks to the Grieve amendment and with Bercow's support.0 -
But that won't be the trade off. So you exit to No Deal. Now what? It's the catastrophe that makes No Deal so bad for the Party (and incidentally for the country)Chris said:
I suppose it's not a question of whether No Deal is worse, but of how much worse. And the same for Labour's calculation of its party advantage.kle4 said:
It has seemed pretty apparent to me for quite some time that the cost of a getting a Brexit deal would be the fall of the Tory government, both for the reason you mention and the DUP. Sucks for them, but if May and most of her party do not, in fact, believe no deal is better than a bad deal, then the national interest they talk about would be to do what it takes to get a deal through even at the cost of a split and a fall.Chris said:
But obviously that would involve a danger of splitting the parliamentary Tory party almost exactly in two.SandyRentool said:I'll try and make it easy for Tezzie.
100 MPs think your deal is too BINO.
400 MPs think your deal is not BINO enough.
Which way should you move to get more MPs to support your deal?
I'll give you a clue - it doesn't involve inviting the ERG and the bowler hats round for tea and biscuits.
I can see either party putting political advantage above the good of the country. I can't see them initiating absolute catastrophe for party advantage. I wonder how well informed most MPs are about what would happen if we leave with No Deal.0 -
The only way May can exercise and control now is by calling an election, which is why I think it is likely.HYUFD said:
She will have to, the most powerful person in the country for the next few weeks is no longer Theresa May, it is John Bercow, ably supported by Dominic Grieve.Chris said:
Perhaps the best we can hope for now is that May will carry on making the noises she thinks will keep the Tory party in one piece, but will acquiesce in the House of Commons taking the responsibility out of her hands.HYUFD said:
A majority of Tory MPs back May's Deal or No Deal though and it is actually about 300 MPs not 400 MPs who think May's Deal is not BINO enough (100 of the 400 MPs who voted against May's Deal were No Dealers) and 90% of those who think May's Deal is not BINO enough are not Tory MPs.SandyRentool said:I'll try and make it easy for Tezzie.
100 MPs think your deal is too BINO.
400 MPs think your deal is not BINO enough.
Which way should you move to get more MPs to support your deal?
I'll give you a clue - it doesn't involve inviting the ERG and the bowler hats round for tea and biscuits.
Hence May cannot move any further towards BINO, so votes on the staying in the single market and customs union and on EUref2 with a Remain option will have to come from MPs themselves not the PM which will come into play in the next few weeks thanks to the Grieve amendment and with Bercow's support.
That likely means a Remain v Deal referendum, though May can at least blame it on Parliament forcing EUref2 on her rather than she proposing it herself. Secretly I also doubt she would be that unhappy, the Deal tends to be rather more popular with voters than MPs, especially if head to head with Remain and the only means to preserve Brexit0 -
If that's your mission statement, it's stupid and you're doomed.kle4 said:
I hope you wish to be treated grandly, like an Ottoman Sultan then, since as a customer I would love companies to treat me that way.Charles said:
No. The strategic mission to be independent and family owned on a 25, 50 and 100 year basis. The mission statement is to treat customers as we would want to be treated ourselveskle4 said:
That's not the mission statement of your company is it?Charles said:
Hated is no use unless it’s hated AND feared.AlastairMeeks said:Pity is the most dangerous emotion for her. She would do better to be hated if she wanted to achieve anything.
Your mission statement should be "we plan to continue to exist, screw your parochial 'family company' bullshit, this is capitalism and we've got bills to pay".
The true strategic mission should be 'become an Amazon affiliate'. Because it's either that or wait for the day Amazon decides to get into your line of business and uses its terrifying economies of scale and logistic networks to undercut you until you bleed to death.0 -
They died nobly. And quickly. And vertically.Benpointer said:
Explains why the Navy cavalry didn't figure at Trafalgar I guess.viewcode said:
Yes, but if you do it at sea the horses drown. It's a problem.Benpointer said:
I stand corrected.Dura_Ace said:
41 Admirals and 50 ships (if you count OPVs, MCMs and don't count HMS Victory)Benpointer said:
Don't we have more admirals than ships these days?
The British Army has more more horses than tanks though.
Not sure about your implication that the Army equivalent of Admirals is horses though.
At least you can ride horses.0 -
I expect May has at least some symptoms of mild high functioning aspergers, indeed I expect plenty on PB probably are in a similar boat, myself included. Though I state that as a suspected fact not an insultBig_G_NorthWales said:
Your repeated comments on TM mental illness is an insult to all the people suffering in this countrygrabcocque said:At what point does repeatedly saying repeatedly saying "nothing has changed" in response to every unfolding national crisis switch from being an amusing mental illness to a terrifying risk to national security?
Asking for a Prime Minister.
You use it to try and make yourself feel better but it is just pathetic
TM has many faults but to continue to imply she has a mental illness is absurd unless you can prove your accusation.
0 -
I do not expect no deal. But it needs to stay in play for now.FF43 said:
But that won't be the trade off. So you exit to No Deal. Now what? It's the catastrophe that makes No Deal so bad for the Party (and incidentally for the country)Chris said:
I suppose it's not a question of whether No Deal is worse, but of how much worse. And the same for Labour's calculation of its party advantage.kle4 said:
It has seemed pretty apparent to me for quite some time that the cost of a getting a Brexit deal would be the fall of the Tory government, both for the reason you mention and the DUP. Sucks for them, but if May and most of her party do not, in fact, believe no deal is better than a bad deal, then the national interest they talk about would be to do what it takes to get a deal through even at the cost of a split and a fall.Chris said:
But obviously that would involve a danger of splitting the parliamentary Tory party almost exactly in two.SandyRentool said:I'll try and make it easy for Tezzie.
100 MPs think your deal is too BINO.
400 MPs think your deal is not BINO enough.
Which way should you move to get more MPs to support your deal?
I'll give you a clue - it doesn't involve inviting the ERG and the bowler hats round for tea and biscuits.
I can see either party putting political advantage above the good of the country. I can't see them initiating absolute catastrophe for party advantage. I wonder how well informed most MPs are about what would happen if we leave with No Deal.0 -
The same could be said in England by the Conservative government.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thanks for that and as YbarddCwsc explains at 9.47 the Welsh labour government, apart from being useless, only favour their own councilsYorkcity said:
Big g knows they are not, he is just ramping a conservative tag line.Benpointer said:
Your bin collections are decided in Cardiff?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Vote to rid ourselves of this utterly useless labour government in Cardiff, now headed by a CorbynistaBenpointer said:
Well, I suppose you could always vote for a different council.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Very controversialBenpointer said:
Sounds very efficient!Big_G_NorthWales said:
They like North Wales. Should come here, only need to do it once every four weeks !!!!!!SquareRoot said:
He will keep himself busy putting the bins outkle4 said:
Philip May has his work cut out for him trying to just enjoy the evening.Benpointer said:
He is not that thick.
Maybe if you and your Welsh sparring partner on here, could take those blinkers off.0 -
This is why so few admirals plough the waves these days.viewcode said:
Yes, but if you do it at sea the horses drown. It's a problem.Benpointer said:
I stand corrected.Dura_Ace said:
41 Admirals and 50 ships (if you count OPVs, MCMs and don't count HMS Victory)Benpointer said:
Don't we have more admirals than ships these days?
The British Army has more more horses than tanks though.
Not sure about your implication that the Army equivalent of Admirals is horses though.
At least you can ride horses.
Although on a serious note, shouldn't we include commodores as well when talking about admirals? There are rather a lot of them and they rank above a ship's captain.0 -
Boris is really being dished by the media0
-
Indeed and Parliament is about to take controlSandyRentool said:
Sorry 300 not 400.HYUFD said:
A majority of Tory MPs back May's Deal or No Deal though and it is actually about 300 MPs not 400 MPs who think May's Deal is not BINO enough (100 of the 400 MPs who voted against May's Deal were No Dealers) and 90% of those who think May's Deal is not BINO enough are not Tory MPs.SandyRentool said:I'll try and make it easy for Tezzie.
100 MPs think your deal is too BINO.
400 MPs think your deal is not BINO enough.
Which way should you move to get more MPs to support your deal?
I'll give you a clue - it doesn't involve inviting the ERG and the bowler hats round for tea and biscuits.
Hence May cannot move any further towards BINO, so votes on staying in the single market and permanently in the customs union and on EUref2 with a Remain option will have to come from MPs themselves not the PM which will come into play in the next few weeks thanks to the Grieve amendment and with Bercow's support.
However, just because the only route to a majority is cross party is not a reason to rule it out.
May might not want to acknowledge the reality but I think the majority of the cabinet now do.0 -
If there's one thing I've learned from three family members who worked for years with those diagnosed with Aspergers, it is that the general public are bloody awful at guessing who has Aspergers.HYUFD said:
I expect May has at least some symptoms of mild high functioning aspergers, indeed I expect plenty on PB probably are in a similar boat, myself included. Though I state that as a suspected fact not an insultBig_G_NorthWales said:
Your repeated comments on TM mental illness is an insult to all the people suffering in this countrygrabcocque said:At what point does repeatedly saying repeatedly saying "nothing has changed" in response to every unfolding national crisis switch from being an amusing mental illness to a terrifying risk to national security?
Asking for a Prime Minister.
You use it to try and make yourself feel better but it is just pathetic
TM has many faults but to continue to imply she has a mental illness is absurd unless you can prove your accusation.
0 -
Even the darkest times contain moments of sunlight!Big_G_NorthWales said:Boris is really being dished by the media
0 -
I only know of one direct pitched battle between cavalry and a navy.Benpointer said:
Explains why the Navy cavalry didn't figure at Trafalgar I guess.viewcode said:
Yes, but if you do it at sea the horses drown. It's a problem.Benpointer said:
I stand corrected.Dura_Ace said:
41 Admirals and 50 ships (if you count OPVs, MCMs and don't count HMS Victory)Benpointer said:
Don't we have more admirals than ships these days?
The British Army has more more horses than tanks though.
Not sure about your implication that the Army equivalent of Admirals is horses though.
At least you can ride horses.
The cavalry won.
Mind you, I think the weather had something to do with it...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_of_the_Dutch_fleet_at_Den_Helder0 -
The same can be said about England and the Tories. I have no problem in saying it.Yorkcity said:
The same could be said in England by the Conservative government.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thanks for that and as YbarddCwsc explains at 9.47 the Welsh labour government, apart from being useless, only favour their own councilsYorkcity said:
Big g knows they are not, he is just ramping a conservative tag line.Benpointer said:
Your bin collections are decided in Cardiff?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Vote to rid ourselves of this utterly useless labour government in Cardiff, now headed by a CorbynistaBenpointer said:
Well, I suppose you could always vote for a different council.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Very controversialBenpointer said:
Sounds very efficient!Big_G_NorthWales said:
They like North Wales. Should come here, only need to do it once every four weeks !!!!!!SquareRoot said:
He will keep himself busy putting the bins outkle4 said:
Philip May has his work cut out for him trying to just enjoy the evening.Benpointer said:
He is not that thick.
Maybe if you and your Welsh sparring partner on here, could take those blinkers off.
However, we were talking about Conwy in Wales, before you found a scurry of squirrels.0 -
Letting Theresa May try to do Brexit is like letting a Roomba attempt open heart surgery: they're simply lacking the requisite circuits to do anything than fuck things up on a truly historic scale.Beverley_C said:
I said something similar recently, so I am therefore agreeing with you.grabcocque said:At what point does repeatedly saying repeatedly saying "nothing has changed" in response to every unfolding national crisis switch from being an amusing mental illness to a terrifying risk to national security?
Asking for a Prime Minister.
Shock! Horror!!
Theresa May is clearly neurologically unable to perform her task. And the entire nation is going to pay for not stopping her from trying.
0 -
She can't as even if she got a majority of 100, given at least a third of Tory MPs would likely be committed No Dealers that would still not ensure her Deal got through.Benpointer said:
The only way May can exercise and control now is by calling an election, which is why I think it is likely.HYUFD said:
She will have to, the most powerful person in the country for the next few weeks is no longer Theresa May, it is John Bercow, ably supported by Dominic Grieve.Chris said:
Perhaps the best we can hope for now is that May will carry on making the noises she thinks will keep the Tory party in one piece, but will acquiesce in the House of Commons taking the responsibility out of her hands.HYUFD said:
A majority of Tory MPs back May's Deal or No Deal though and it is actually about 300 MPs not 400 MPs who think May's Deal is not BINO enough (100 of the 400 MPs who voted against May's Deal were No Dealers) and 90% of those who think May's Deal is not BINO enough are not Tory MPs.SandyRentool said:I'll try and make it easy for Tezzie.
100 MPs think your deal is too BINO.
400 MPs think your deal is not BINO enough.
Which way should you move to get more MPs to support your deal?
I'll give you a clue - it doesn't involve inviting the ERG and the bowler hats round for tea and biscuits.
Hence May cannot move any further towards BINO, so votes on the staying in the single market and customs union and on EUref2 with a Remain option will have to come from MPs themselves not the PM which will come into play in the next few weeks thanks to the Grieve amendment and with Bercow's support.
That likely means a Remain v Deal referendum, though May can at least blame it on Parliament forcing EUref2 on her rather than she proposing it herself. Secretly I also doubt she would be that unhappy, the Deal tends to be rather more popular with voters than MPs, especially if head to head with Remain and the only means to preserve Brexit
In fact the only way the Deal may get through now is in a Remain v Deal referendum (or better still but less likely to pass the Commons, a Deal v No Deal referendum)0 -
He doesn't mind that. I understood his appeal, to a degree, but feel it has long since passed, but a great many still disagree no matter what he does, and like Trump and Corbyn he seems able to get away with insane amounts from his supporters.Big_G_NorthWales said:Boris is really being dished by the media
0 -
We know she is diabetic but unless medical confirmation of other conditions are made it is not in anyone's interest to make statements without evidenceHYUFD said:
I expect May has at least some symptoms of mild high functioning aspergers, indeed I expect plenty on PB probably are in a similar boat, myself included. Though I state that as a suspected fact not an insultBig_G_NorthWales said:
Your repeated comments on TM mental illness is an insult to all the people suffering in this countrygrabcocque said:At what point does repeatedly saying repeatedly saying "nothing has changed" in response to every unfolding national crisis switch from being an amusing mental illness to a terrifying risk to national security?
Asking for a Prime Minister.
You use it to try and make yourself feel better but it is just pathetic
TM has many faults but to continue to imply she has a mental illness is absurd unless you can prove your accusation.0 -
Not sure how much comfort pity is. I pity May, I don't respect her.0
-
What do they intend to do with it? Control without a plan won't be control at all.HYUFD said:
Indeed and Parliament is about to take controlSandyRentool said:
Sorry 300 not 400.HYUFD said:
A majority of Tory MPs back May's Deal or No Deal though and it is actually about 300 MPs not 400 MPs who think May's Deal is not BINO enough (100 of the 400 MPs who voted against May's Deal were No Dealers) and 90% of those who think May's Deal is not BINO enough are not Tory MPs.SandyRentool said:I'll try and make it easy for Tezzie.
100 MPs think your deal is too BINO.
400 MPs think your deal is not BINO enough.
Which way should you move to get more MPs to support your deal?
I'll give you a clue - it doesn't involve inviting the ERG and the bowler hats round for tea and biscuits.
Hence May cannot move any further towards BINO, so votes on staying in the single market and permanently in the customs union and on EUref2 with a Remain option will have to come from MPs themselves not the PM which will come into play in the next few weeks thanks to the Grieve amendment and with Bercow's support.
However, just because the only route to a majority is cross party is not a reason to rule it out.
May might not want to acknowledge the reality but I think the majority of the cabinet now do.0 -
This discussion has been closed.