James Forsyth reported that the issue between the DUP and Mays people is that the DUP think they are being told sugar coated untruths from May. They met Barnier and he explained in detail the checks that would be required, whereas Mays lot were saying no checks. I think this is where "heal the wounds" with Mays toppling comes from.
As I have been saying, you can't fudge a customs union or a regulatory border. When will Tory PMs realise that you can't solve disputes relating to the EU just by spin? Of course a regulatory border is real and will have real consequences and will create a real barrier between NI and the rest of the UK. And as the DUP point out, since the EU trade offer is CETA then the EU will insist on a customs border as well.
The only way to solve this issue is to reject the very concept of a backstop. The UK offer should be that, as long as the EU publicly commit to the concept of a maxfac border between NI and the ROI, the UK will agree to some sort of time limited delay whilst this is put in place, probably using the WTO as arbiters as to when the border is sufficient. If the EU won't agree to the soft border in concept, then the UK has no choice but to leave with no deal.
I am trying to think how long it is since Scotland has played this badly. It’s not easy to be sure because we often play poorly but this seems a whole new level of crud.
Yet it was an ex Celtic player that made the first goal and the current Celtic blunder kid that scored the winner for Israel.
Funny old game.
Now done all the railways within and south of the Central Belt - with the sole exception of Stranraer due to the stability issues at Ayr station!
I still haven't taken the Shotts line between Glasgow and Edinburgh and I commute between the two often enough.
On the hottest day in Glasgow ever, this past summer, I did board one of the Shotts line trains at Glasgow Central after buckled rails closed the Falkirk High route, but then they cancelled that train too and sent everyone back to Queen Street for the Bathgate trains.
Previous polling in Nevada was typical. Slightly over 2% of those phoned responded. On the basis of the slightly over 2% who are untypical enough to answer a robophone poll, it is neck and neck. But how on earth can the responses to a question which nearly 49 out of 50 choose to ignore lead to a claimed margin of error of only 4%? The assumption that the wholly exceptional few who give a response is typical of the mainstream who do not is a huge one. Indeed, so exceptional is the behaviour of those who answer robophone polls that their opinions are probably as atypical of the mainstream voter as those of us political animals who choose to post here.
Because I think they have scientific methods for weighting the responses using demographics.
James Forsyth reported that the issue between the DUP and Mays people is that the DUP think they are being told sugar coated untruths from May. They met Barnier and he explained in detail the checks that would be required, whereas Mays lot were saying no checks. I think this is where "heal the wounds" with Mays toppling comes from.
As I have been saying, you can't fudge a customs union or a regulatory border. When will Tory PMs realise that you can't solve disputes relating to the EU just by spin? Of course a regulatory border is real and will have real consequences and will create a real barrier between NI and the rest of the UK. And as the DUP point out, since the EU trade offer is CETA then the EU will insist on a customs border as well.
The only way to solve this issue is to reject the very concept of a backstop. The UK offer should be that, as long as the EU publicly commit to the concept of a maxfac border between NI and the ROI, the UK will agree to some sort of time limited delay whilst this is put in place, probably using the WTO as arbiters as to when the border is sufficient. If the EU won't agree to the soft border in concept, then the UK has no choice but to leave with no deal.
May's biggest Brexit mis-step (in a long list) was not telling the EU to fuck off with their backstop.
Just come back from our Association Annual Dinner with Priti Patel.
Archer will be pleased to hear she was very pro 'Leave means Leave' ie leave the single market and customs union and ECJ jurisdiction and cut taxes and regulation and pursue 'global Britain.'
I doubt she will be the next PM but as a future Tory Leader of the Opposition she may be in the frame
James Forsyth reported that the issue between the DUP and Mays people is that the DUP think they are being told sugar coated untruths from May. They met Barnier and he explained in detail the checks that would be required, whereas Mays lot were saying no checks. I think this is where "heal the wounds" with Mays toppling comes from.
As I have been saying, you can't fudge a customs union or a regulatory border. When will Tory PMs realise that you can't solve disputes relating to the EU just by spin? Of course a regulatory border is real and will have real consequences and will create a real barrier between NI and the rest of the UK. And as the DUP point out, since the EU trade offer is CETA then the EU will insist on a customs border as well.
The only way to solve this issue is to reject the very concept of a backstop. The UK offer should be that, as long as the EU publicly commit to the concept of a maxfac border between NI and the ROI, the UK will agree to some sort of time limited delay whilst this is put in place, probably using the WTO as arbiters as to when the border is sufficient. If the EU won't agree to the soft border in concept, then the UK has no choice but to leave with no deal.
May's biggest Brexit mis-step (in a long list) was not telling the EU to fuck off with their backstop.
It will cost her the job of being PM.
I think there is more cunning on the UK negotiating side. She agreed the backstop because she could theb say the only way it can be met is by the UK having an agreement that we are in the CU and the SM for the bits we like but out of the bits we do not like. The EU have said no, hence the impasse, but May thought she has a winner in the agreement.
In the real world I am beginning to suspect that events are about to overtake domestic politics. I Was visiting a large manufacturer in the midlands today. They are a core part of UK industry with £20m turnover. Like much of industry they are owned by offshore private equity. They are struggling to be allowed to invest despite a massive order book and premium products. Staff retention is low and employees age is high. How will Brexit help solve the real world issues this plant faces and the real risk of it being closed.
Much of our wealth in this country is in the hands of people who don’t care about Brexit. We want control of our country but we have mortgaged much of it to pawnbrokers.
A 'core part of UK industry' with £20m turnover ?
A manufacturer with £20m turnover would have about 100 employees.
And why would a successful business with a 'massive order book' be at risk of being closed ?
Just come back from our Association Annual Dinner with Priti Patel.
Archer will be pleased to hear she was very pro 'Leave means Leave' ie leave the single market and customs union and ECJ jurisdiction and cut taxes and regulation and pursue 'global Britain.'
I doubt she will be the next PM but as a future Tory Leader of the Opposition she may be in the frame
I would really like to get behind Patel, but I just can't. She has views I support but she doesn't have the talent. She just doesn't strike me as terribly bright. But she looks good on the telly and I suppose that is all that matters these days.
Just come back from our Association Annual Dinner with Priti Patel.
Archer will be pleased to hear she was very pro 'Leave means Leave' ie leave the single market and customs union and ECJ jurisdiction and cut taxes and regulation and pursue 'global Britain.'
I doubt she will be the next PM but as a future Tory Leader of the Opposition she may be in the frame
I would really like to get behind Patel, but I just can't. She has views I support but she doesn't have the talent. She just doesn't strike me as terribly bright. But she looks good on the telly and I suppose that is all that matters these days.
If you were going on intelligence alone Geoffrey Cox would be a good bet given his oratory last week but he is more a leader for 1948 than 2018.
Patel is photogenic and sharp and against Corbyn I think could get under his skin being a female Asian Thatcherite
James Forsyth reported that the issue between the DUP and Mays people is that the DUP think they are being told sugar coated untruths from May. They met Barnier and he explained in detail the checks that would be required, whereas Mays lot were saying no checks. I think this is where "heal the wounds" with Mays toppling comes from.
As I have been saying, you can't fudge a customs union or a regulatory border. When will Tory PMs realise that you can't solve disputes relating to the EU just by spin? Of course a regulatory border is real and will have real consequences and will create a real barrier between NI and the rest of the UK. And as the DUP point out, since the EU trade offer is CETA then the EU will insist on a customs border as well.
The only way to solve this issue is to reject the very concept of a backstop. The UK offer should be that, as long as the EU publicly commit to the concept of a maxfac border between NI and the ROI, the UK will agree to some sort of time limited delay whilst this is put in place, probably using the WTO as arbiters as to when the border is sufficient. If the EU won't agree to the soft border in concept, then the UK has no choice but to leave with no deal.
May's biggest Brexit mis-step (in a long list) was not telling the EU to fuck off with their backstop.
It will cost her the job of being PM.
I think there is more cunning on the UK negotiating side. She agreed the backstop because she could theb say the only way it can be met is by the UK having an agreement that we are in the CU and the SM for the bits we like but out of the bits we do not like. The EU have said no, hence the impasse, but May thought she has a winner in the agreement.
James Forsyth reported that the issue between the DUP and Mays people is that the DUP think they are being told sugar coated untruths from May. They met Barnier and he explained in detail the checks that would be required, whereas Mays lot were saying no checks. I think this is where "heal the wounds" with Mays toppling comes from.
As I have been saying, you can't fudge a customs union or a regulatory border. When will Tory PMs realise that you can't solve disputes relating to the EU just by spin? Of course a regulatory border is real and will have real consequences and will create a real barrier between NI and the rest of the UK. And as the DUP point out, since the EU trade offer is CETA then the EU will insist on a customs border as well.
The only way to solve this issue is to reject the very concept of a backstop. The UK offer should be that, as long as the EU publicly commit to the concept of a maxfac border between NI and the ROI, the UK will agree to some sort of time limited delay whilst this is put in place, probably using the WTO as arbiters as to when the border is sufficient. If the EU won't agree to the soft border in concept, then the UK has no choice but to leave with no deal.
May's biggest Brexit mis-step (in a long list) was not telling the EU to fuck off with their backstop.
It will cost her the job of being PM.
I think there is more cunning on the UK negotiating side. She agreed the backstop because she could theb say the only way it can be met is by the UK having an agreement that we are in the CU and the SM for the bits we like but out of the bits we do not like. The EU have said no, hence the impasse, but May thought she has a winner in the agreement.
You might be right when applied to Robbins. There was stuff coming out earlier in the year that he saw the backstop as a way of staying in the SM/CU by the back door without FOM and payments. Barnier saw the trap and hence the March NI backstop text and the stalemate since.
I don't think May had any idea what she was doing when she agreed the backstop. She clearly didn't understand the impact on NI, the response of the DUP or the fact that it would be impossible to agree a permanent backstop with her Cabinet.
James Forsyth reported that the issue between the DUP and Mays people is that the DUP think they are being told sugar coated untruths from May. They met Barnier and he explained in detail the checks that would be required, whereas Mays lot were saying no checks. I think this is where "heal the wounds" with Mays toppling comes from.
As I have been saying, you can't fudge a customs union or a regulatory border. When will Tory PMs realise that you can't solve disputes relating to the EU just by spin? Of course a regulatory border is real and will have real consequences and will create a real barrier between NI and the rest of the UK. And as the DUP point out, since the EU trade offer is CETA then the EU will insist on a customs border as well.
The only way to solve this issue is to reject the very concept of a backstop. The UK offer should be that, as long as the EU publicly commit to the concept of a maxfac border between NI and the ROI, the UK will agree to some sort of time limited delay whilst this is put in place, probably using the WTO as arbiters as to when the border is sufficient. If the EU won't agree to the soft border in concept, then the UK has no choice but to leave with no deal.
May's biggest Brexit mis-step (in a long list) was not telling the EU to fuck off with their backstop.
It will cost her the job of being PM.
I think there is more cunning on the UK negotiating side. She agreed the backstop because she could theb say the only way it can be met is by the UK having an agreement that we are in the CU and the SM for the bits we like but out of the bits we do not like. The EU have said no, hence the impasse, but May thought she has a winner in the agreement.
Other, less generous interpretations exist!
Shipman's books puncture any idea that our political classes are machiavellian geniuses. To be fair (what? on the Internet?), being very, very busy and very, very pressured can reduce anyone's IQ to room temperature, but they collectively don't come out well. Again, to be fair, the EU are hardly a shining light in this department, exhibit A being Messrs Juncker and Tusk, muppets both.
I am trying to think how long it is since Scotland has played this badly. It’s not easy to be sure because we often play poorly but this seems a whole new level of crud.
Yet it was an ex Celtic player that made the first goal and the current Celtic blunder kid that scored the winner for Israel.
Funny old game.
Now done all the railways within and south of the Central Belt - with the sole exception of Stranraer due to the stability issues at Ayr station!
I still haven't taken the Shotts line between Glasgow and Edinburgh and I commute between the two often enough.
On the hottest day in Glasgow ever, this past summer, I did board one of the Shotts line trains at Glasgow Central after buckled rails closed the Falkirk High route, but then they cancelled that train too and sent everyone back to Queen Street for the Bathgate trains.
Well it seems that they have electrified the Shotts Line, or at least the wires are in place - just need to be energised I guess. I finished off my Scottish invasionincursion sojourn by doing Shotts eastbound and Bathgate westbound - last year did Bathgate eastbound and last Monday week did Shotts westbound.
I guess I will have to wait till next year (more daylight, better weather) before doing the rest of Scotland. Oh, well!
@Barnesian (fpt): “you'd have to be over 80 to remember anyone who fought and died in the 1939-45 war . So wearing a poppy can't be personal.”
What rubbish. My father was a Squadron Leader during WW2 and I am a long long way from being 80.
Indeed, at junior school in Cyprus (Akrotiri) in 1965, I distinctly remember the 25th celebration of the Battle of Britain. Many of my teachers fought in the war. Most of my father's friends did. My godfather, and the person who taught me to swim did. I just turned 60. Barnesian is out by 25 years.
@Barnesian (fpt): “you'd have to be over 80 to remember anyone who fought and died in the 1939-45 war . So wearing a poppy can't be personal.”
What rubbish. My father was a Squadron Leader during WW2 and I am a long long way from being 80.
Indeed, at junior school in Cyprus (Akrotiri) in 1965, I distinctly remember the 25th celebration of the Battle of Britain. Many of my teachers fought in the war. Most of my father's friends did. My godfather, and the person who taught me to swim did. I just turned 60. Barnesian is out by 25 years.
"and died" . I'd be surprised if many were still teaching 25 years after dying.
This Week tonight is reporting May is moving towards proposing that GB stays in the Customs Union until a FTA is agreed but Northern Ireland stays in the Single Market to resolve the Irish border issue
In the real world I am beginning to suspect that events are about to overtake domestic politics. I Was visiting a large manufacturer in the midlands today. They are a core part of UK industry with £20m turnover. Like much of industry they are owned by offshore private equity. They are struggling to be allowed to invest despite a massive order book and premium products. Staff retention is low and employees age is high. How will Brexit help solve the real world issues this plant faces and the real risk of it being closed.
Much of our wealth in this country is in the hands of people who don’t care about Brexit. We want control of our country but we have mortgaged much of it to pawnbrokers.
A 'core part of UK industry' with £20m turnover ?
A manufacturer with £20m turnover would have about 100 employees.
And why would a successful business with a 'massive order book' be at risk of being closed ?
@Barnesian (fpt): “you'd have to be over 80 to remember anyone who fought and died in the 1939-45 war . So wearing a poppy can't be personal.”
What rubbish. My father was a Squadron Leader during WW2 and I am a long long way from being 80.
Indeed, at junior school in Cyprus (Akrotiri) in 1965, I distinctly remember the 25th celebration of the Battle of Britain. Many of my teachers fought in the war. Most of my father's friends did. My godfather, and the person who taught me to swim did. I just turned 60. Barnesian is out by 25 years.
"and died" . I'd be surprised if many were still teaching 25 years after dying.
It certainly seemed like some of my teachers had been dead a quarter century!
Just come back from our Association Annual Dinner with Priti Patel.
Archer will be pleased to hear she was very pro 'Leave means Leave' ie leave the single market and customs union and ECJ jurisdiction and cut taxes and regulation and pursue 'global Britain.'
I doubt she will be the next PM but as a future Tory Leader of the Opposition she may be in the frame
I would really like to get behind Patel, but I just can't. She has views I support but she doesn't have the talent. She just doesn't strike me as terribly bright. But she looks good on the telly and I suppose that is all that matters these days.
If you were going on intelligence alone Geoffrey Cox would be a good bet given his oratory last week but he is more a leader for 1948 than 2018.
Patel is photogenic and sharp and against Corbyn I think could get under his skin being a female Asian Thatcherite
She is indeed photogenic. Sharp...dubious. Thatcherite well that is not flavour of the month outside the most committed Tory circles. She is also a proven liar. But needs must...
Just come back from our Association Annual Dinner with Priti Patel.
Archer will be pleased to hear she was very pro 'Leave means Leave' ie leave the single market and customs union and ECJ jurisdiction and cut taxes and regulation and pursue 'global Britain.'
I doubt she will be the next PM but as a future Tory Leader of the Opposition she may be in the frame
I would really like to get behind Patel, but I just can't. She has views I support but she doesn't have the talent. She just doesn't strike me as terribly bright. But she looks good on the telly and I suppose that is all that matters these days.
If you were going on intelligence alone Geoffrey Cox would be a good bet given his oratory last week but he is more a leader for 1948 than 2018.
Patel is photogenic and sharp and against Corbyn I think could get under his skin being a female Asian Thatcherite
She is indeed photogenic. Sharp...dubious. Thatcherite well that is not flavour of the month outside the most committed Tory circles. She is also a proven liar. But needs must...
Just come back from our Association Annual Dinner with Priti Patel.
Archer will be pleased to hear she was very pro 'Leave means Leave' ie leave the single market and customs union and ECJ jurisdiction and cut taxes and regulation and pursue 'global Britain.'
I doubt she will be the next PM but as a future Tory Leader of the Opposition she may be in the frame
I would really like to get behind Patel, but I just can't. She has views I support but she doesn't have the talent. She just doesn't strike me as terribly bright. But she looks good on the telly and I suppose that is all that matters these days.
If you were going on intelligence alone Geoffrey Cox would be a good bet given his oratory last week but he is more a leader for 1948 than 2018.
Patel is photogenic and sharp and against Corbyn I think could get under his skin being a female Asian Thatcherite
She is indeed photogenic. Sharp...dubious. Thatcherite well that is not flavour of the month outside the most committed Tory circles. She is also a proven liar. But needs must...
This is politics after all
Well yes. However, impressing Epping Forest Tories is hardly proof of a magic bullet against Corbyn.
Just come back from our Association Annual Dinner with Priti Patel.
Archer will be pleased to hear she was very pro 'Leave means Leave' ie leave the single market and customs union and ECJ jurisdiction and cut taxes and regulation and pursue 'global Britain.'
I doubt she will be the next PM but as a future Tory Leader of the Opposition she may be in the frame
I would really like to get behind Patel, but I just can't. She has views I support but she doesn't have the talent. She just doesn't strike me as terribly bright. But she looks good on the telly and I suppose that is all that matters these days.
If you were going on intelligence alone Geoffrey Cox would be a good bet given his oratory last week but he is more a leader for 1948 than 2018.
Patel is photogenic and sharp and against Corbyn I think could get under his skin being a female Asian Thatcherite
She is indeed photogenic. Sharp...dubious. Thatcherite well that is not flavour of the month outside the most committed Tory circles. She is also a proven liar. But needs must...
This is politics after all
Well yes. However, impressing Epping Forest Tories is hardly proof of a magic bullet against Corbyn.
There is no magic bullet against Corbyn, what may be needed is someone who has belief in their message as he has in his
Just come back from our Association Annual Dinner with Priti Patel.
Archer will be pleased to hear she was very pro 'Leave means Leave' ie leave the single market and customs union and ECJ jurisdiction and cut taxes and regulation and pursue 'global Britain.'
I doubt she will be the next PM but as a future Tory Leader of the Opposition she may be in the frame
I would really like to get behind Patel, but I just can't. She has views I support but she doesn't have the talent. She just doesn't strike me as terribly bright. But she looks good on the telly and I suppose that is all that matters these days.
If you were going on intelligence alone Geoffrey Cox would be a good bet given his oratory last week but he is more a leader for 1948 than 2018.
Patel is photogenic and sharp and against Corbyn I think could get under his skin being a female Asian Thatcherite
She is indeed photogenic. Sharp...dubious. Thatcherite well that is not flavour of the month outside the most committed Tory circles. She is also a proven liar. But needs must...
This is politics after all
Well yes. However, impressing Epping Forest Tories is hardly proof of a magic bullet against Corbyn.
There is no magic bullet against Corbyn, what may be needed is someone who has belief in their message as he has in his
On that point we agree. But that message has to resonate widely also.
Just come back from our Association Annual Dinner with Priti Patel.
Archer will be pleased to hear she was very pro 'Leave means Leave' ie leave the single market and customs union and ECJ jurisdiction and cut taxes and regulation and pursue 'global Britain.'
I doubt she will be the next PM but as a future Tory Leader of the Opposition she may be in the frame
I would really like to get behind Patel, but I just can't. She has views I support but she doesn't have the talent. She just doesn't strike me as terribly bright. But she looks good on the telly and I suppose that is all that matters these days.
If you were going on intelligence alone Geoffrey Cox would be a good bet given his oratory last week but he is more a leader for 1948 than 2018.
Patel is photogenic and sharp and against Corbyn I think could get under his skin being a female Asian Thatcherite
She is indeed photogenic. Sharp...dubious. Thatcherite well that is not flavour of the month outside the most committed Tory circles. She is also a proven liar. But needs must...
This is politics after all
Well yes. However, impressing Epping Forest Tories is hardly proof of a magic bullet against Corbyn.
There is no magic bullet against Corbyn, what may be needed is someone who has belief in their message as he has in his
On that point we agree. But that message has to resonate widely also.
Given Corbyn has abandoned the centre but motivates his base in a Corbynites v Thatcherites battle the centre could go either way if both motivate their base
Just come back from our Association Annual Dinner with Priti Patel.
Archer will be pleased to hear she was very pro 'Leave means Leave' ie leave the single market and customs union and ECJ jurisdiction and cut taxes and regulation and pursue 'global Britain.'
I doubt she will be the next PM but as a future Tory Leader of the Opposition she may be in the frame
I would really like to get behind Patel, but I just can't. She has views I support but she doesn't have the talent. She just doesn't strike me as terribly bright. But she looks good on the telly and I suppose that is all that matters these days.
If you were going on intelligence alone Geoffrey Cox would be a good bet given his oratory last week but he is more a leader for 1948 than 2018.
Patel is photogenic and sharp and against Corbyn I think could get under his skin being a female Asian Thatcherite
She is indeed photogenic. Sharp...dubious. Thatcherite well that is not flavour of the month outside the most committed Tory circles. She is also a proven liar. But needs must...
This is politics after all
Well yes. However, impressing Epping Forest Tories is hardly proof of a magic bullet against Corbyn.
There is no magic bullet against Corbyn, what may be needed is someone who has belief in their message as he has in his
We may be in a sea change, as Callaghan put it, when nothing one side does matters. Certainly feels that way, but the polls still say otherwise.
If I had to guess, only Boris can beat Corbyn in an actual five or six week campaign.
Portillo convinced there's going to be an election soon - Have to say if he's right I'll be voting for Corbyn if May is leading the Tories in any future election.
Portillo convinced there's going to be an election soon - Have to say if he's right I'll be voting for Corbyn is May if leading the Tories in any election.
I am not sure it will be a Corbyn-led Labour at the next election, it is easy to fall into the trap of trying to re-fight the last election (ie anticipating a Corbyn-style campaign) I couldnt say what it will be, but trying to strategise a 2017 re-run will fail.
Just come back from our Association Annual Dinner with Priti Patel.
Archer will be pleased to hear she was very pro 'Leave means Leave' ie leave the single market and customs union and ECJ jurisdiction and cut taxes and regulation and pursue 'global Britain.'
I doubt she will be the next PM but as a future Tory Leader of the Opposition she may be in the frame
I would really like to get behind Patel, but I just can't. She has views I support but she doesn't have the talent. She just doesn't strike me as terribly bright. But she looks good on the telly and I suppose that is all that matters these days.
If you were going on intelligence alone Geoffrey Cox would be a good bet given his oratory last week but he is more a leader for 1948 than 2018.
Patel is photogenic and sharp and against Corbyn I think could get under his skin being a female Asian Thatcherite
She is indeed photogenic. Sharp...dubious. Thatcherite well that is not flavour of the month outside the most committed Tory circles. She is also a proven liar. But needs must...
This is politics after all
Well yes. However, impressing Epping Forest Tories is hardly proof of a magic bullet against Corbyn.
There is no magic bullet against Corbyn, what may be needed is someone who has belief in their message as he has in his
We may be in a sea change, as Callaghan put it, when nothing one side does matters. Certainly feels that way, but the polls still say otherwise.
If I had to guess, only Boris can beat Corbyn in an actual five or six week campaign.
Corbyn is not Thatcher who was the Tories answer to Attlee anyway. Both those leaders made the weather.
Corbyn at most if he gets in will get in propped up by the SNP and LDs and the Tories will almost certainly still be largest party
Portillo convinced there's going to be an election soon - Have to say if he's right I'll be voting for Corbyn is May if leading the Tories in any election.
I've had it with her and her shambles of a party!
#ToriesOut
Surely UKIP would be more appropriate?
Nope. UKIP is a wasted vote (and they are racists - I don't associate myself with racists)
Time to hit Con right where it hurts and that's by voting for Corbyn to get them out!
Portillo convinced there's going to be an election soon - Have to say if he's right I'll be voting for Corbyn is May if leading the Tories in any election.
I've had it with her and her shambles of a party!
#ToriesOut
Surely UKIP would be more appropriate?
Nope. UKIP is a wasted vote (and they are racists - I don't associate myself with racists)
Time to hit Con right where it hurts and that's by voting for Corbyn to get them out!
UKIP is not a racist vote if you want to make a pro hard Brexit protest, they are still not the BNP.
Voting for a Marxist just to have a tantrum is not a sensible idea once you wake up from the hangover with John McDonnell as Chancellor
Just come back from our Association Annual Dinner with Priti Patel.
Archer will be pleased to hear she was very pro 'Leave means Leave' ie leave the single market and customs union and ECJ jurisdiction and cut taxes and regulation and pursue 'global Britain.'
I doubt she will be the next PM but as a future Tory Leader of the Opposition she may be in the frame
I would really like to get behind Patel, but I just can't. She has views I support but she doesn't have the talent. She just doesn't strike me as terribly bright. But she looks good on the telly and I suppose that is all that matters these days.
If you were going on intelligence alone Geoffrey Cox would be a good bet given his oratory last week but he is more a leader for 1948 than 2018.
Patel is photogenic and sharp and against Corbyn I think could get under his skin being a female Asian Thatcherite
She is indeed photogenic. Sharp...dubious. Thatcherite well that is not flavour of the month outside the most committed Tory circles. She is also a proven liar. But needs must...
This is politics after all
Well yes. However, impressing Epping Forest Tories is hardly proof of a magic bullet against Corbyn.
There is no magic bullet against Corbyn, what may be needed is someone who has belief in their message as he has in his
On that point we agree. But that message has to resonate widely also.
Given Corbyn has abandoned the centre but motivates his base in a Corbynites v Thatcherites battle the centre could go either way if both motivate their base
Sorry. There are precious few Thatcherites around. There is no North Sea Oil or nationalised industries to sell off. Even TM has said austerity is over. There is no overarching theme to fight Corbyn. Other than free market capitalism is great (if you ignore the past 10 years).
I am not sure it will be a Corbyn-led Labour at the next election, it is easy to fall into the trap of trying to re-fight the last election (ie anticipating a Corbyn-style campaign) I couldnt say what it will be, but trying to strategise a 2017 re-run will fail.
True. But the stuff Corbyn is talking about resonates: austerity, housing, education, lack of opportunities, big business stitch up, schools with no money, UC is a disaster, disabled people are at food banks, foreign buyers of 3rd or 4th homes etc etc.
Never mind the disaster that Brexit will be next Spring.
The warnings lights on the Tory dash board are flashing red and no one, except a tiny group, like Robert Halfon, are noticing.
Just come back from our Association Annual Dinner with Priti Patel.
Archer will be pleased to hear she was very pro 'Leave means Leave' ie leave the single market and customs union and ECJ jurisdiction and cut taxes and regulation and pursue 'global Britain.'
I doubt she will be the next PM but as a future Tory Leader of the Opposition she may be in the frame
I would really like to get behind Patel, but I just can't. She has views I support but she doesn't have the talent. She just doesn't strike me as terribly bright. But she looks good on the telly and I suppose that is all that matters these days.
If you were going on intelligence alone Geoffrey Cox would be a good bet given his oratory last week but he is more a leader for 1948 than 2018.
Patel is photogenic and sharp and against Corbyn I think could get under his skin being a female Asian Thatcherite
She is indeed photogenic. Sharp...dubious. Thatcherite well that is not flavour of the month outside the most committed Tory circles. She is also a proven liar. But needs must...
This is politics after all
Well yes. However, impressing Epping Forest Tories is hardly proof of a magic bullet against Corbyn.
There is no magic bullet against Corbyn, what may be needed is someone who has belief in their message as he has in his
On that point we agree. But that message has to resonate widely also.
Given Corbyn has abandoned the centre but motivates his base in a Corbynites v Thatcherites battle the centre could go either way if both motivate their base
Sorry. There are precious few Thatcherites around. There is no North Sea Oil or nationalised industries to sell off. Even TM has said austerity is over. There is no overarching theme to fight Corbyn. Other than free market capitalism is great (if you ignore the past 10 years).
Portillo convinced there's going to be an election soon - Have to say if he's right I'll be voting for Corbyn is May if leading the Tories in any election.
I've had it with her and her shambles of a party!
#ToriesOut
Surely UKIP would be more appropriate?
Nope. UKIP is a wasted vote (and they are racists - I don't associate myself with racists)
Time to hit Con right where it hurts and that's by voting for Corbyn to get them out!
Left wing idiots got Corbyn to the brink of 10 Downing Street. Right wing fools who’d cut off their nose to spite their face will put him in.
Just come back from our Association Annual Dinner with Priti Patel.
Archer will be pleased to hear she was very pro 'Leave means Leave' ie leave the single market and customs union and ECJ jurisdiction and cut taxes and regulation and pursue 'global Britain.'
I doubt she will be the next PM but as a future Tory Leader of the Opposition she may be in the frame
I would really like to get behind Patel, but I just can't. She has views I support but she doesn't have the talent. She just doesn't strike me as terribly bright. But she looks good on the telly and I suppose that is all that matters these days.
If you were going on intelligence alone Geoffrey Cox would be a good bet given his oratory last week but he is more a leader for 1948 than 2018.
Patel is photogenic and sharp and against Corbyn I think could get under his skin being a female Asian Thatcherite
She is indeed photogenic. Sharp...dubious. Thatcherite well that is not flavour of the month outside the most committed Tory circles. She is also a proven liar. But needs must...
This is politics after all
Well yes. However, impressing Epping Forest Tories is hardly proof of a magic bullet against Corbyn.
There is no magic bullet against Corbyn, what may be needed is someone who has belief in their message as he has in his
On that point we agree. But that message has to resonate widely also.
Given Corbyn has abandoned the centre but motivates his base in a Corbynites v Thatcherites battle the centre could go either way if both motivate their base
Sorry. There are precious few Thatcherites around. There is no North Sea Oil or nationalised industries to sell off. Even TM has said austerity is over. There is no overarching theme to fight Corbyn. Other than free market capitalism is great (if you ignore the past 10 years).
Even under Jacob Rees Mogg the Tories would be on 35% v Corbyn with Yougov. There are plenty of Thatcherites still around, she did after all win 3 general elections, 2 of them against Old Labour socialists
Portillo convinced there's going to be an election soon - Have to say if he's right I'll be voting for Corbyn is May if leading the Tories in any election.
I've had it with her and her shambles of a party!
#ToriesOut
Surely UKIP would be more appropriate?
Nope. UKIP is a wasted vote (and they are racists - I don't associate myself with racists)
Time to hit Con right where it hurts and that's by voting for Corbyn to get them out!
UKIP is not a racist vote if you want to make a pro hard Brexit protest, they are still not the BNP.
Voting for a Marxist just to have a tantrum is not a sensible idea once you wake up from the hangover with John McDonnell as Chancellor
Which spookily was a similar argument used against electing Thatcher in 79.
Portillo convinced there's going to be an election soon - Have to say if he's right I'll be voting for Corbyn is May if leading the Tories in any election.
I've had it with her and her shambles of a party!
#ToriesOut
Surely UKIP would be more appropriate?
Nope. UKIP is a wasted vote (and they are racists - I don't associate myself with racists)
Time to hit Con right where it hurts and that's by voting for Corbyn to get them out!
Left wing idiots got Corbyn to the brink of 10 Downing Street. Right wing fools who’d cut off their nose to spite their face will put him in.
Are you hearing the siren calls of the second referendum again?
I am not sure it will be a Corbyn-led Labour at the next election, it is easy to fall into the trap of trying to re-fight the last election (ie anticipating a Corbyn-style campaign) I couldnt say what it will be, but trying to strategise a 2017 re-run will fail.
True. But the stuff Corbyn is talking about resonates: austerity, housing, education, lack of opportunities, big business stitch up, schools with no money, UC is a disaster, disabled people are at food banks, foreign buyers of 3rd or 4th homes etc etc.
Never mind the disaster that Brexit will be next Spring.
The warnings lights on the Tory dash board are flashing red and no one, except a tiny group, like Robert Halfon, are noticing.
After a few years of Corbynite tax and spend, IMF bailouts, soaring inflation and strike ridden nationalised industries and bins left overflowing plenty of voters will be ready to give Thatcherism a second look again
Portillo convinced there's going to be an election soon - Have to say if he's right I'll be voting for Corbyn is May if leading the Tories in any election.
I've had it with her and her shambles of a party!
#ToriesOut
Surely UKIP would be more appropriate?
Nope. UKIP is a wasted vote (and they are racists - I don't associate myself with racists)
Time to hit Con right where it hurts and that's by voting for Corbyn to get them out!
Left wing idiots got Corbyn to the brink of 10 Downing Street. Right wing fools who’d cut off their nose to spite their face will put him in.
Are you hearing the siren calls of the second referendum again?
Offered by the Tories? How exactly do you think that'd be good for them at the ballot box?
I am not sure it will be a Corbyn-led Labour at the next election, it is easy to fall into the trap of trying to re-fight the last election (ie anticipating a Corbyn-style campaign) I couldnt say what it will be, but trying to strategise a 2017 re-run will fail.
True. But the stuff Corbyn is talking about resonates: austerity, housing, education, lack of opportunities, big business stitch up, schools with no money, UC is a disaster, disabled people are at food banks, foreign buyers of 3rd or 4th homes etc etc.
Never mind the disaster that Brexit will be next Spring.
The warnings lights on the Tory dash board are flashing red and no one, except a tiny group, like Robert Halfon, are noticing.
As I understand it to some Corbyn cannot win so there is no need to worry, I think this is a case of people believing what they want to believe.
I am not sure it will be a Corbyn-led Labour at the next election, it is easy to fall into the trap of trying to re-fight the last election (ie anticipating a Corbyn-style campaign) I couldnt say what it will be, but trying to strategise a 2017 re-run will fail.
True. But the stuff Corbyn is talking about resonates: austerity, housing, education, lack of opportunities, big business stitch up, schools with no money, UC is a disaster, disabled people are at food banks, foreign buyers of 3rd or 4th homes etc etc.
Never mind the disaster that Brexit will be next Spring.
The warnings lights on the Tory dash board are flashing red and no one, except a tiny group, like Robert Halfon, are noticing.
After a few years of Corbynite tax and spend, IMF bailouts, soaring inflation and strike ridden nationalised industries and bins left overflowing plenty of voters will be ready to give Thatcherism a second look again
Which spookily was the argument against electing Thatcher in the first place. Not exactly, but that it would be an untrammelled disaster, just because, pretty much was. Anyway, good night.
Just come back from our Association Annual Dinner with Priti Patel.
Archer will be pleased to hear she was very pro 'Leave means Leave' ie leave the single market and customs union and ECJ jurisdiction and cut taxes and regulation and pursue 'global Britain.'
I doubt she will be the next PM but as a future Tory Leader of the Opposition she may be in the frame
I would really like to get behind Patel, but I just can't. She has views I support but she doesn't have the talent. She just doesn't strike me as terribly bright. But she looks good on the telly and I suppose that is all that matters these days.
If you were going on intelligence alone Geoffrey Cox would be a good bet given his oratory last week but he is more a leader for 1948 than 2018.
Patel is photogenic and sharp and against Corbyn I think could get under his skin being a female Asian Thatcherite
She is indeed photogenic. Sharp...dubious. Thatcherite well that is not flavour of the month outside the most committed Tory circles. She is also a proven liar. But needs must...
I would really like to get behind Patel, but I just can't. She has views I support but she doesn't have the talent. She just doesn't strike me as terribly bright. But she looks good on the telly and I suppose that is all that matters these days.
My mum lives in Patel's constituency. She says she "works ever so hard". I'm not sure, but I think this is a euphemism from her teaching days meaning "she's as thick as pigshit".
That stuff about early voting in CA is interesting:
In a discussion with David Axelrod, a top adviser to former President Barack Obama, on his podcast recently, Harris adviser Ace Smith slyly called the earlier California primary “a fun thing,” noting, “The other thing to keep in mind is that we have, as you well know, we have … 29-day early voting.”
Axelrod responded, “So the day Iowa votes, California will begin voting, and that should be an enormous advantage to a candidate who is from California, which will … have about what, 12 percent of the delegates.”
Just come back from our Association Annual Dinner with Priti Patel.
Archer will be pleased to hear she was very pro 'Leave means Leave' ie leave the single market and customs union and ECJ jurisdiction and cut taxes and regulation and pursue 'global Britain.'
I doubt she will be the next PM but as a future Tory Leader of the Opposition she may be in the frame
I would really like to get behind Patel, but I just can't. She has views I support but she doesn't have the talent. She just doesn't strike me as terribly bright. But she looks good on the telly and I suppose that is all that matters these days.
If you were going on intelligence alone Geoffrey Cox would be a good bet given his oratory last week but he is more a leader for 1948 than 2018.
Patel is photogenic and sharp and against Corbyn I think could get under his skin being a female Asian Thatcherite
She is indeed photogenic. Sharp...dubious. Thatcherite well that is not flavour of the month outside the most committed Tory circles. She is also a proven liar. But needs must...
Great footage. It's surprising she's got as far as she has. I noticed her on a program the other day and she seemed to have lost her habit of dropping letters which is something of an improvement. She must have has elocution lessons but as Edmund says even with this minor improvement 'thick as pigshit' seems about right.
That's not what he's saying. He's explaining why 60% of the UK wants recognition of a Palestinian state. Was this crap posted by Guido disguising himself as Carlotta?
Portillo convinced there's going to be an election soon - Have to say if he's right I'll be voting for Corbyn is May if leading the Tories in any election.
I've had it with her and her shambles of a party!
#ToriesOut
Surely UKIP would be more appropriate?
Nope. UKIP is a wasted vote (and they are racists - I don't associate myself with racists)
Time to hit Con right where it hurts and that's by voting for Corbyn to get them out!
UKIP is not a racist vote if you want to make a pro hard Brexit protest, they are still not the BNP.
Voting for a Marxist just to have a tantrum is not a sensible idea once you wake up from the hangover with John McDonnell as Chancellor
Portillo convinced there's going to be an election soon - Have to say if he's right I'll be voting for Corbyn is May if leading the Tories in any election.
I've had it with her and her shambles of a party!
#ToriesOut
Surely UKIP would be more appropriate?
Nope. UKIP is a wasted vote (and they are racists - I don't associate myself with racists)
Time to hit Con right where it hurts and that's by voting for Corbyn to get them out!
UKIP is not a racist vote if you want to make a pro hard Brexit protest, they are still not the BNP.
Voting for a Marxist just to have a tantrum is not a sensible idea once you wake up from the hangover with John McDonnell as Chancellor
It would be Double or Quits.
UKIP's drift into the arms of EDL/BNP and other aspects of the British Right should not be ignored...its a dangerous game to play and one I suspect UKIP will regret in years to come.
Why on earth are we leaving the Customs Union? Of all the craziness associated with Brexit this has to be the craziest.
Because of the baggage that comes with it. A Customs Union means we cannot do our own deals internationally and are stuck with deals designed to protect Spanish produce or Greek olives but which seem to offer us relatively little in the way of services access.
In the EU's case CU membership also seems to come at the price of having to comply with and implement their laws and be subject to the overarching jurisdiction of the CJEU for dispute resolution. These are not a necessary adjunct of a CU but in their case it seems to be the price of membership, despite the deal they have with Turkey.
The government seems to now want a CU of sorts (the UK wide backstop) but it doesn't want this other stuff and could not sell a deal including it. Whether it can sell a deal including CU membership remains to be seen.
Why on earth are we leaving the Customs Union? Of all the craziness associated with Brexit this has to be the craziest.
Because of the baggage that comes with it. A Customs Union means we cannot do our own deals internationally and are stuck with deals designed to protect Spanish produce or Greek olives but which seem to offer us relatively little in the way of services access.
In the EU's case CU membership also seems to come at the price of having to comply with and implement their laws and be subject to the overarching jurisdiction of the CJEU for dispute resolution. These are not a necessary adjunct of a CU but in their case it seems to be the price of membership, despite the deal they have with Turkey.
The government seems to now want a CU of sorts (the UK wide backstop) but it doesn't want this other stuff and could not sell a deal including it. Whether it can sell a deal including CU membership remains to be seen.
Worse than that it means the EU can sell access to British markets as a free “sweetener” in any future trade deal without any input from ourselves.
Just come back from our Association Annual Dinner with Priti Patel.
Archer will be pleased to hear she was very pro 'Leave means Leave' ie leave the single market and customs union and ECJ jurisdiction and cut taxes and regulation and pursue 'global Britain.'
I doubt she will be the next PM but as a future Tory Leader of the Opposition she may be in the frame
I would really like to get behind Patel, but I just can't. She has views I support but she doesn't have the talent. She just doesn't strike me as terribly bright. But she looks good on the telly and I suppose that is all that matters these days.
If you were going on intelligence alone Geoffrey Cox would be a good bet given his oratory last week but he is more a leader for 1948 than 2018.
Patel is photogenic and sharp and against Corbyn I think could get under his skin being a female Asian Thatcherite
She is indeed photogenic. Sharp...dubious. Thatcherite well that is not flavour of the month outside the most committed Tory circles. She is also a proven liar. But needs must...
Great footage. It's surprising she's got as far as she has. I noticed her on a program the other day and she seemed to have lost her habit of dropping letters which is something of an improvement. She must have has elocution lessons but as Edmund says even with this minor improvement 'thick as pigshit' seems about right.
She can’t be very bright. I’m in her constituency, have met her a few times and she thinks I vote for her.
Why on earth are we leaving the Customs Union? Of all the craziness associated with Brexit this has to be the craziest.
Because of the baggage that comes with it. A Customs Union means we cannot do our own deals internationally and are stuck with deals designed to protect Spanish produce or Greek olives but which seem to offer us relatively little in the way of services access.
In the EU's case CU membership also seems to come at the price of having to comply with and implement their laws and be subject to the overarching jurisdiction of the CJEU for dispute resolution. These are not a necessary adjunct of a CU but in their case it seems to be the price of membership, despite the deal they have with Turkey.
The government seems to now want a CU of sorts (the UK wide backstop) but it doesn't want this other stuff and could not sell a deal including it. Whether it can sell a deal including CU membership remains to be seen.
Worse than that it means the EU can sell access to British markets as a free “sweetener” in any future trade deal without any input from ourselves.
But we get the rest of the EU as a free sweetener. Which is the biggest free trade area on the planet. Even with no say in its operation it still sounds like a great deal.
I would really like to get behind Patel, but I just can't. She has views I support but she doesn't have the talent. She just doesn't strike me as terribly bright. But she looks good on the telly and I suppose that is all that matters these days.
My mum lives in Patel's constituency. She says she "works ever so hard". I'm not sure, but I think this is a euphemism from her teaching days meaning "she's as thick as pigshit".
Since not being a Minister (!) she’s taken a greater interest in constituency matters, especially, for some reason, in the Tiptree.... home of the jam-maker..... area.
Why on earth are we leaving the Customs Union? Of all the craziness associated with Brexit this has to be the craziest.
Because of the baggage that comes with it. A Customs Union means we cannot do our own deals internationally and are stuck with deals designed to protect Spanish produce or Greek olives but which seem to offer us relatively little in the way of services access.
In the EU's case CU membership also seems to come at the price of having to comply with and implement their laws and be subject to the overarching jurisdiction of the CJEU for dispute resolution. These are not a necessary adjunct of a CU but in their case it seems to be the price of membership, despite the deal they have with Turkey.
The government seems to now want a CU of sorts (the UK wide backstop) but it doesn't want this other stuff and could not sell a deal including it. Whether it can sell a deal including CU membership remains to be seen.
Worse than that it means the EU can sell access to British markets as a free “sweetener” in any future trade deal without any input from ourselves.
But we get the rest of the EU as a free sweetener. Which is the biggest free trade area on the planet. Even with no say in its operation it still sounds like a great deal.
Why on earth are we leaving the Customs Union? Of all the craziness associated with Brexit this has to be the craziest.
Because of the baggage that comes with it. A Customs Union means we cannot do our own deals internationally and are stuck with deals designed to protect Spanish produce or Greek olives but which seem to offer us relatively little in the way of services access.
In the EU's case CU membership also seems to come at the price of having to comply with and implement their laws and be subject to the overarching jurisdiction of the CJEU for dispute resolution. These are not a necessary adjunct of a CU but in their case it seems to be the price of membership, despite the deal they have with Turkey.
The government seems to now want a CU of sorts (the UK wide backstop) but it doesn't want this other stuff and could not sell a deal including it. Whether it can sell a deal including CU membership remains to be seen.
Selling the deal is only the half of it. The government will also have to cope with people unhappy with the consequences even if they are uninterested in the details.
Why on earth are we leaving the Customs Union? Of all the craziness associated with Brexit this has to be the craziest.
Because of the baggage that comes with it. A Customs Union means we cannot do our own deals internationally and are stuck with deals designed to protect Spanish produce or Greek olives but which seem to offer us relatively little in the way of services access.
In the EU's case CU membership also seems to come at the price of having to comply with and implement their laws and be subject to the overarching jurisdiction of the CJEU for dispute resolution. These are not a necessary adjunct of a CU but in their case it seems to be the price of membership, despite the deal they have with Turkey.
The government seems to now want a CU of sorts (the UK wide backstop) but it doesn't want this other stuff and could not sell a deal including it. Whether it can sell a deal including CU membership remains to be seen.
Worse than that it means the EU can sell access to British markets as a free “sweetener” in any future trade deal without any input from ourselves.
But we get the rest of the EU as a free sweetener. Which is the biggest free trade area on the planet. Even with no say in its operation it still sounds like a great deal.
Why on earth are we leaving the Customs Union? Of all the craziness associated with Brexit this has to be the craziest.
Because of the baggage that comes with it. A Customs Union means we cannot do our own deals internationally and are stuck with deals designed to protect Spanish produce or Greek olives but which seem to offer us relatively little in the way of services access.
In the EU's case CU membership also seems to come at the price of having to comply with and implement their laws and be subject to the overarching jurisdiction of the CJEU for dispute resolution. These are not a necessary adjunct of a CU but in their case it seems to be the price of membership, despite the deal they have with Turkey.
The government seems to now want a CU of sorts (the UK wide backstop) but it doesn't want this other stuff and could not sell a deal including it. Whether it can sell a deal including CU membership remains to be seen.
Worse than that it means the EU can sell access to British markets as a free “sweetener” in any future trade deal without any input from ourselves.
But we get the rest of the EU as a free sweetener. Which is the biggest free trade area on the planet. Even with no say in its operation it still sounds like a great deal.
Why on earth are we leaving the Customs Union? Of all the craziness associated with Brexit this has to be the craziest.
Because of the baggage that comes with it. A Customs Union means we cannot do our own deals internationally and are stuck with deals designed to protect Spanish produce or Greek olives but which seem to offer us relatively little in the way of services access.
In the EU's case CU membership also seems to come at the price of having to comply with and implement their laws and be subject to the overarching jurisdiction of the CJEU for dispute resolution. These are not a necessary adjunct of a CU but in their case it seems to be the price of membership, despite the deal they have with Turkey.
The government seems to now want a CU of sorts (the UK wide backstop) but it doesn't want this other stuff and could not sell a deal including it. Whether it can sell a deal including CU membership remains to be seen.
Worse than that it means the EU can sell access to British markets as a free “sweetener” in any future trade deal without any input from ourselves.
They can’t offer access to the UK without offering the same access to themselves.
I would really like to get behind Patel, but I just can't. She has views I support but she doesn't have the talent. She just doesn't strike me as terribly bright. But she looks good on the telly and I suppose that is all that matters these days.
My mum lives in Patel's constituency. She says she "works ever so hard". I'm not sure, but I think this is a euphemism from her teaching days meaning "she's as thick as pigshit".
Since not being a Minister (!) she’s taken a greater interest in constituency matters, especially, for some reason, in the Tiptree.... home of the jam-maker..... area.
What is it about Brexiteers and their fixation on innovative jam?
We all know one party leader is skilled at jam making...
I would really like to get behind Patel, but I just can't. She has views I support but she doesn't have the talent. She just doesn't strike me as terribly bright. But she looks good on the telly and I suppose that is all that matters these days.
My mum lives in Patel's constituency. She says she "works ever so hard". I'm not sure, but I think this is a euphemism from her teaching days meaning "she's as thick as pigshit".
Since not being a Minister (!) she’s taken a greater interest in constituency matters, especially, for some reason, in the Tiptree.... home of the jam-maker..... area.
Unlike Amber Rudd or even Justine Greening, Ms Patel's seat is rock solid safe Blue which immediately means she is guaranteed a seat in the next Parliament, no sign of the chicken run yet by Tory wannabees, so thats got to be in her favour. if I am brutal about it however, I dont believe a good chunk of Tory voters want a non-white leader yet - Baroness Warsi's comments about Islamaphobia strike an unpleasant chord about Little Britain Tories.
I would really like to get behind Patel, but I just can't. She has views I support but she doesn't have the talent. She just doesn't strike me as terribly bright. But she looks good on the telly and I suppose that is all that matters these days.
My mum lives in Patel's constituency. She says she "works ever so hard". I'm not sure, but I think this is a euphemism from her teaching days meaning "she's as thick as pigshit".
Since not being a Minister (!) she’s taken a greater interest in constituency matters, especially, for some reason, in the Tiptree.... home of the jam-maker..... area.
What is it about Brexiteers and their fixation on innovative jam?
We all know one party leader is skilled at jam making...
She's at the tip of the tree, but he's at the top of it!
I dont believe a good chunk of Tory voters want a non-white leader yet - Baroness Warsi's comments about Islamaphobia strike an unpleasant chord about Little Britain Tories.
Even if your comment was correct - and I would point out that she would actually be the third Tory leader from an ethnic minority, the first appointed as long ago as 1867, so it clearly isn't - she is not a Muslim so Islamophobia (which is, again, bigotry not racism) is irrelevant.
It's her somewhat slippery business and overseas dealings plus her policy stances that rule her out.
I would really like to get behind Patel, but I just can't. She has views I support but she doesn't have the talent. She just doesn't strike me as terribly bright. But she looks good on the telly and I suppose that is all that matters these days.
My mum lives in Patel's constituency. She says she "works ever so hard". I'm not sure, but I think this is a euphemism from her teaching days meaning "she's as thick as pigshit".
Since not being a Minister (!) she’s taken a greater interest in constituency matters, especially, for some reason, in the Tiptree.... home of the jam-maker..... area.
What is it about Brexiteers and their fixation on innovative jam?
We all know one party leader is skilled at jam making...
She's at the tip of the tree, but he's at the top of it!
I dont believe a good chunk of Tory voters want a non-white leader yet - Baroness Warsi's comments about Islamaphobia strike an unpleasant chord about Little Britain Tories.
Even if your comment was correct - and I would point out that she would actually be the third Tory leader from an ethnic minority, the first appointed as long ago as 1867, so it clearly isn't - she is not a Muslim so Islamophobia (which is, again, bigotry not racism) is irrelevant.
It's her somewhat slippery business and overseas dealings plus her policy stances that rule her out.
I wonder if Mordaunt has the MP power base to make it through the first couple of rounds. If she does, she might do well, though the 'let's have a woman' demographic nonsense will have taken a hit given May's less than Thatcherite performance.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/30/telegraph-cartoons-october-2018/blower-cartoon-october-10/
The only way to solve this issue is to reject the very concept of a backstop. The UK offer should be that, as long as the EU publicly commit to the concept of a maxfac border between NI and the ROI, the UK will agree to some sort of time limited delay whilst this is put in place, probably using the WTO as arbiters as to when the border is sufficient. If the EU won't agree to the soft border in concept, then the UK has no choice but to leave with no deal.
On the hottest day in Glasgow ever, this past summer, I did board one of the Shotts line trains at Glasgow Central after buckled rails closed the Falkirk High route, but then they cancelled that train too and sent everyone back to Queen Street for the Bathgate trains.
It will cost her the job of being PM.
Archer will be pleased to hear she was very pro 'Leave means Leave' ie leave the single market and customs union and ECJ jurisdiction and cut taxes and regulation and pursue 'global Britain.'
I doubt she will be the next PM but as a future Tory Leader of the Opposition she may be in the frame
The EU have said no, hence the impasse, but May thought she has a winner in the agreement.
A manufacturer with £20m turnover would have about 100 employees.
And why would a successful business with a 'massive order book' be at risk of being closed ?
Patel is photogenic and sharp and against Corbyn I think could get under his skin being a female Asian Thatcherite
I don't think May had any idea what she was doing when she agreed the backstop. She clearly didn't understand the impact on NI, the response of the DUP or the fact that it would be impossible to agree a permanent backstop with her Cabinet.
Will be interesting to see what can be mustered on the Today programme tomorrow morning.
https://twitter.com/NickBoles/status/1050507823304638464
I guess I will have to wait till next year (more daylight, better weather) before doing the rest of Scotland. Oh, well!
She might.
But surely the next day the DUP will break the whip vote? And then we will be in limbo for a while, before there is a confidence vote.
But that message has to resonate widely also.
If I had to guess, only Boris can beat Corbyn in an actual five or six week campaign.
I've had it with her and her shambles of a party!
#ToriesOut
Corbyn at most if he gets in will get in propped up by the SNP and LDs and the Tories will almost certainly still be largest party
Time to hit Con right where it hurts and that's by voting for Corbyn to get them out!
Voting for a Marxist just to have a tantrum is not a sensible idea once you wake up from the hangover with John McDonnell as Chancellor
Never mind the disaster that Brexit will be next Spring.
The warnings lights on the Tory dash board are flashing red and no one, except a tiny group, like Robert Halfon, are noticing.
Anyway, good night.
https://youtu.be/_DrsVhzbLzU
https://www.weeklystandard.com/michael-warren/more-evidence-bernie-sanders-is-preparing-to-run-for-the-white-house-in-2020
https://g1.globo.com/politica/eleicoes/2018/noticia/2018/10/10/datafolha-para-presidente-votos-validos-bolsonaro-58-haddad-42.ghtml
The last thing the UK needs is crowd funded cream cakes.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/09/brazils-bolsonaro-would-unleash-a-war-on-the-environment
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8h8 hours ago
Labour GAIN Southlands (Adur) from UKIP.
In the EU's case CU membership also seems to come at the price of having to comply with and implement their laws and be subject to the overarching jurisdiction of the CJEU for dispute resolution. These are not a necessary adjunct of a CU but in their case it seems to be the price of membership, despite the deal they have with Turkey.
The government seems to now want a CU of sorts (the UK wide backstop) but it doesn't want this other stuff and could not sell a deal including it. Whether it can sell a deal including CU membership remains to be seen.
Me! Vote Tory!!!!!!!
Selling the deal is only the half of it. The government will also have to cope with people unhappy with the consequences even if they are uninterested in the details.
We all know one party leader is skilled at jam making...
It's her somewhat slippery business and overseas dealings plus her policy stances that rule her out.
I wonder if Mordaunt has the MP power base to make it through the first couple of rounds. If she does, she might do well, though the 'let's have a woman' demographic nonsense will have taken a hit given May's less than Thatcherite performance.