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While LAB has continued its self destructive row on antisemitism the focus has been off the Tories in the past couple of weeks even though the blues are as split as ever over Brexit. Even so TMay might be pleased that all the latest ratings her net figures have her moving up while Corbyn has slipped sharply. Opinium, Deltapoll and YouGov now have her ahead of the Labour leader.
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He i many things, but he isn't 'authentic'.
Edit: Oh, and thirst.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/ugly-mug-shows-posh/
And your Economy is 25% smaller than before they stepped in to help. Still, it avoided Grexit - so trebles all round in Brussels....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45243088
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-45240742
But that has was not what Rory Stewart said, was it? He said his targets were for reductions in violence and drugs use. And whilst Birmingham isn't in the list of prisons getting the extra money, at least the problems there are not being ignored.
As he said: judge him by the results.
And if nothing was being done you'd be screeching about how he was ignoring the problem ...
As others have said, it was an interesting move by Stewart.
Does it change all that much? The world and his cat knows Captain Vainglorious is on manoeuvres. The PCP will already be engaged in contemplating who succeeds May and how to ensure/prevent certain candidates have a good chance.
Without that all schemes are moot, surely?
Are French bankers being asked to register at their local police station yet?
It also suggests that, as has been argued here, that since no-one in the Establishment actually wants to end FoM or immigration, since they see it as economically beneficial (and the posh folk rather like their cheap Polish plumber and Romanian nanny) the whole question of Freedom of Movement will be covered in fudge. EFoMINO: end FoM in name only. No, it will never catch on.
Some solace for the underpants on head remainers -your mental breakdown is a completely expect d and common behaviour
“In the case of Brexit, instead of assuming that the Leave camp appraised the situation equally well as the Remain camp, and with equally honorable motives, he said, “the goal-conflict and cognitive dissonance has been resolved by assuming that the Leave camp are — typically speaking but always with exception — stupid, ill-informed and ill-intended. The underlying notion seems to be that they should have listened to ‘their betters’ — rather like naughty school children, if only they had ‘paid more attention in class.’”
Corr says the fact that many working-class people have been subject to this attitude for much of their lives “made the kick up the backside of ‘their betters’ all the more enjoyable.””
Theresa May will take the “moral high ground” and allow EU migrants to continue to access the NHS and claim benefits because the rest of her government’s contingency plans for an acrimonious departure from the bloc rely “on the availability of existing labour”.
The offer would apply regardless of whether British migrants in European countries are granted the same rights by the EU, according to The Telegraph. It will be contained in the first tranche of more than 80 papers detailing contingency plans for a no-deal Brexit in different sectors, which the government will publish on Thursday.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/may-takes-moral-high-ground-with-pledge-over-eu-citizens-vqn20mk9n
Clearly this is absurd and the timescale is such that 3 million cannot be regulated in 7 months. This is the logic of a blanket amnesty.
Devaluation has never been a sign of economic success, in Greece or here.
I look forward to you referring to Corbyn as 'Corbyn the anti-Semite', as some of Labour's followers call him that.
"If I were being unkind" ... I read this, and knowing the target was a Conservative, just knew that you were going to be unkind
Other Brexiteers are less impressed
Corbyn plans four-day trip to revitalise Scottish Labour
Party sources fear it is failing to build on 2017 election gains as polls point to slump
It's another example of Brexiteers not having a clue how the EU works, where the balance of power lies, how dependent we are on migration (Hint: it's a good thing), and how trumpeting banal slogans does not equate to a real negotiating strategy
But our moral superiority is more than a bit self interested. The 3-4m EU citizens here make a significant contribution to our economy. Some have already left and I am sure that the government does not want that to become a trend. Hence the announcement.
"That would be an act of calamitous self-harm for the countries of Europe. And it would not be the act of a friend. Britain would not – indeed we could not – accept such an approach."
And how long do we think those 3m will be given to show their papers? One year? Two?
Until then, until the last EU citizen has been registered then anyone who comes here effectively has complete freedom to stay, etc.
I think it would have been better if they'd quit the euro but I can understand why their faith in their domestic politicians was low!
Or so it seems.
Incidentally I read on a pharmaeutical web-site that yes there are fewer Czech and Spanish pharmacists coming but it appears that the more stringent language requirments are as much of the reason as Brexit.
We have fucked up Brexit at every turn, but you don't seem to get it.
Maybe one day.
Therefore Corbyn cannot damage Labour, because he is Labour. Any damage done is automatically not Labour ...
Point was you get huffy about morals when it applies only to one side, it's like those supposedly pro eu comments you see online and here from people talking about how ruthless the eu is, how they will treat us as an enemy now (yes, some leavers do that too) and all in all make the eu seem a lot worse than it is or claims to be, since it tries to hold the high ground.
Edit - or there's a major economic collapse that wrecks the economic model they're using, of course.
If we take "authentic" to mean someone driven by actual principles and beliefs, who when acting politically isn't willing to compromise these, then Boris is pretty much the ultimate inauthentic politician.
He has now been seen through.
Corbyn is similarly fake but hasn't yet been seen through by the general public.
Your negotiating position seems to that we should accept that the EU holds all the cards and we should bend the knee (as they say in GoT). You then accuse Mrs May of negotiating badly when she doesn't concede everything.
I'm not sure that I would ever vote for you as a negotiator. .
It can't be far from absolute collapse. Poverty's rampant, inflation means you should buy food at dawn because it'll have reduced your spending power significantly by dusk, unemployment's vast, people are shedding weight because they're starving, the democratic process is a sham, and there's an exodus caused by people desperately seeking food, work, and safety elsewhere.
Of course if it is No Deal then Boris or Mogg likely replace May as Tory leader and PM anyway
https://trib.al/X0kIjHJ
No deal is not better than a bad deal.
It never was.
Anyone who said it, applauded it or agreed with it, has weakened our ability to negotiate successfully.
"According to Corr and Stuart, this emotional response is “standard psychological stuff.” To find solace and some level of security amid the disorder, Remainers are following a well-trodden path to polarized group think, dismissing their social “inferiors” who voted for Brexit as stupid, racist and easily misled."
“the goal-conflict and cognitive dissonance has been resolved by assuming that the Leave camp are — typically speaking but always with exception — stupid, ill-informed and ill-intended. The underlying notion seems to be that they should have listened to ‘their betters’ — rather like naughty school children, if only they had ‘paid more attention in class.’”
"Corr says the fact that many working-class people have been subject to this attitude for much of their lives “made the kick up the backside of ‘their betters’ all the more enjoyable.”
Stuart agreed that for the traditional liberal elite, the political upheaval happening all around them is likely to be “incredibly anxiety-provoking.”
"Part of the problem for Remainers is that their emotional reaction to Brexiteers makes them feel better, even if it fails to address the fundamental cause of their anxiety. “Trouble is, in the longer term it’s not really doing anything other than keeping us going round in circles, constantly talking about Brexit and winding ourselves up,” he said.
I've suggested we extend sympathy to our Remain colleagues. So, lads, try sitting in a circle with your legs crossed and saying "Hmmmm ….."
Remember Labour's "don't let him take Britain back to the Eighties?" Similar sort of misfire.
Thank you for your understanding.
The Tories made their own parody in about 30 seconds
Forensic analysis of why his policies are unworkable is what would have throttled him at the last election. His policy on water renationalisation, where he got all his sums wrong, should have dominated the media cycle for days. Or on school funding, where his promised extra funding would have bankrupted the private and shortly thereafter the state sector. These could have finished Labour off.
But the Tories made two very serious errors. They didn't cost their own manifesto, leaving such attacks as they did make ring hollow (and in any case drowned out by the shambles of dementia tax) and they put the one Cabinet Minister who could have made these points forensically and with gravitas in a box in the hope of turfing him out altogether afterwards.
They seem to have made little progress on sorting out these errors. Indeed, they were repeats of errors made in the referendum campaign and the 2015 election.
They're nearly 300 ahead and have eight wickets in hand, should be 1.01 from here.
I am sure the Leader of the Opposition will be protesting about this. I am sure I read somewhere that he is very concerned when desperate people are put in such a dreadful situation.
But if we're honest, many of the real issues you outline are not about the EU but about the totally shambolic nature of our benefits system, for which both parties share a huge wedge of blame.
When Zimbabwe had catastrophic inflation and interest rates of 65,000% about a decade ago, I don't think there were appeals then. For a time, life expectancy was low- to mid-30s for men and women due to rampant AIDS and hardly any food.
But we are on a political website so that's what we discuss.
Innocent, carefree days they were..
Hugo Chavez impoverished his nation, yet when he died he had assets of US$1 billion. His daughters are rumoured to have $10 billion between them.
Maduro is if anything worse.
Incidentally didn’t someone come on here a while ago complaining that his business supplyoing and repairing car-washing equipment had gone down the river since the Romanians arrived?
Worryingly, it made good sense...
I've never thought it's worth the electrons to try to change minds here (has anyone, ever, changed their position on party support or Brexit as a result of pondering a PB post?) - what's interesting is the areas where we find we agree (or at least are willing to discuss) despite different underlying positions. There are not many sites where people are willing to discuss on that basis, and for me that is PB's central appeal. If we all suddenly became Remainers or Leavers or Boris fans or Corbynites it'd be a bit boring.
Why anyone thought privately run prisons was a good idea is beyond me.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/08/20/englands-worst-prison-taken-government-inspection-finds-inmates/
*god only knows who I'd want at the helm of the Conservatives right now, that said.