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I'd like to think that Zac was displaying a hitherto concealed sense of deep, sardonic wit, but...The_Apocalypse said:
Is he serious?Theuniondivvie said:We do not deserve such men of principle.
https://twitter.com/ZacGoldsmith/status/10163268673500979200 -
Great that the BBC keeps cutting away to Fox's cold-eyed stare.0
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Sorry, but asking the EU to negotiate "seriously" under these circumstances is ...well unspoofable.0
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The only way the Tories die off is if a more right-wing party replaces them. See the Progressive Conservatives in Canada who from 1993 to 2004 were overtaken by the populist right Reform Party/Alliance until the two eventually merged under future PM Harper to form the Canadian Conservative PartyTykejohnno said:
It's always about the Tory party with some on here,I am beginning to think this party should die off.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As a conservative I am ashamed by Boris Johnson's recent actions and we are well rid of himdixiedean said:
Is that still open though? Are people hanging on the every word of an appalling FS and his latest bollocks?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon Boris is going to do one at least one of the following
1) Urge the ousting of Mrs May
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2) Quit politics, heard for years that he's missing the £250k a year gig at the Telegraph.0 -
May's "Turd Way".LordOfReason said:Fair play to Davis and Boris, at least a couple of the Brexiteers has some balls.
May’s toast. What finished her is the bloody difficult woman tag. I lived through the seventies and eighties, and she ain’t no Maggie Thatcher. May is nothing. The embarrassing way she and her team have tried to,spin her as tough leader over the weekend just brings home to everyone of her MPs that she is not PM materiel, hasn’t been from the moment she got the job. When did she demonstrate any command of detail? Three key elections in three years, what campaigning immpression did she leave on them? What are her core beliefs she returns to to avoid just blowing in the wind on a day to day basis? If you are going to be a bloody difficult woman you have to be bloody good at it, tell a minister they are moving in a reshuffle they move, not tell you otherwise and stay put. You have to Turn up to leader debates and tough grillings, and stamp yourself and your policy on it. If you don’t lead like that, you are not leading at all. Her ministers are unsackable becuase she’s too weak to sack or even control them now.
Whatever their persuasion on Brexit, whatever wing of the party they are from, this week the tory MPs will vote on the fact this government needs to negoatiate robustly with the EU now, strong on detail and sense of direction, which they all know they won’t get if May and her Turd Way fudge limps on. For the nations sake They cannot vote negatively this time just to block someone else, they need to crown a PM whose grasp of detail and leadership skills are priministerial standard.
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She has maintained the support of Gove and Raab, who are two major Leave talents. I don't think it's viable she dumps the Chequers agreement, but she clearly can't give anything further away to the EU. They also need to make sure the grey areas of the plan are robust (e.g. the consequences of not adopting new goods regulations leave long time periods for business to adapt).CarlottaVance said:
Wishful thinking. How does she 'dump' something she got the cabinet to agree to?rottenborough said:
According to David Davis 'by two to three to one'?0 -
We = Ikjohnw said:
Wrong, we valued our sovereignty and independence and freedom, and we were prepared to accept the short to medium term hit on our economy , for the long term gains brexit would eventually bring once we have managed to unshackle ourselves from the EU prison and make ourselves competitive in the world againBig_G_NorthWales said:
No they are not. Few voted to lose their jobs. You are getting carried away. Hard Brexit is overGIN1138 said:
The Brexiteers are representing 17.4m people who WON the referendum.Big_G_NorthWales said:
A cull of the Brexiteers is neededdixiedean said:
You must admit it is giving a reasonable impression of so doing.Big_G_NorthWales said:
No it is notGIN1138 said:
The government is collapsing.rottenborough said:OMG. Just heard Boris has gone. It's all out war now!
Leave voters were promised no downsides and all the benefits of being an EU member state with none of the negatives.
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That too but I was limited to the performances at the despatch box.Philip_Thompson said:
Thatcher shortly after the IRA tried to murder her? [Albeit at Conference not the Dispatch Box]TheScreamingEagles said:
Churchill at various stages during WWII?Big_G_NorthWales said:TM needs credit for her confident manner at the Dispatch Box. When has any PM been under such pressure
John Major shortly after the IRA tried to murder him?0 -
Looking at the commons, politics can be really hard. May seems on good form, but she will do well to survive this.0
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Corbyn cannot make a mess of this can he. He starts off far too shouty0
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Angry Jezza. Sure it will look good on tw@tter.0
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Hacker: You've got to learn to come to heel. You've got to learn to 'co-operate'.El_Capitano said:She keeps saying "agreed by the Cabinet". Given this morning's resignations she has a different definition of "agreed" to most people...
Bernard: What do you mean 'co-operate'?
Hacker: I mean obey my commands! That's what 'co-operate' means when you're Prime minister.0 -
This surely makes an extension to the Article 50 process more likely, yes0
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He wants his hard Brexit.FrancisUrquhart said:Angry Jezza.
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I've been saying that for months.rcs1000 said:This surely makes an extension to the Article 50 process more likely, yes
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NEWSFLASH: Man hospitalised after drinking four pints of shampoo. "I don't understand. I wash the kids with this every night."brendan16 said:
We coat our kids in chlorine everytime they go swimming. Not sure why it's any worse for chicken?FrancisUrquhart said:I do despair at the level of debate....old Fat head was banging on about chlorinated chicken as the reason why we can't Brexit / do a deal with America.
There are lots of reasons why there are lots of complications, but this nonsense on chlorinated chicken is just bollocks. When he was called on it, that we already have products that are chlorinated, but he said but the public are resistant to it....well you massive muppet, the public simply won't buy it will they.0 -
This was in a runoff scenarioTheWhiteRabbit said:
I wouldn't trust the polls in a scenario where JRM has a small dovted following and the others will build their constituencies accordinglyHYUFD said:Yougov has Mogg beating all comers amongst Tory members, Davidson, Hunt, Gove, Javid, Williamson, Boris, Mourdaunt, Mogg beats them all.
If he wants it and could get to the membership Mogg will be the Tory Corbyn it now seems
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2018/07/09/leave-voting-conservative-party-members-are-starti/0 -
Trade across the NI border is about 1 day of total UK EU trade. You don't negotiate trade deals on the margins except as counters to eventually concede.Anazina said:
It really isn't.Alanbrooke said:
NoTOPPING said:Do all the PB Brexiters now see how NI is driving substantially all our proposed EU settlement?
its just a big red herring.
The RoI has no plans for a non-deal and it is now too late for them to do anything, if we go down, they do too. They are a hostage in a negotiation they don't control.
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Thatcher after the Falklands was invaded.Big_G_NorthWales said:TM needs credit for her confident manner at the Dispatch Box. When has any PM been under such pressure
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Yes but still before any actual campaign. The last one bore no resemblance to anythingHYUFD said:
This was in a runoff scenarioTheWhiteRabbit said:
I wouldn't trust the polls in a scenario where JRM has a small dovted following and the others will build their constituencies accordinglyHYUFD said:Yougov has Mogg beating all comers amongst Tory members, Davidson, Hunt, Gove, Javid, Williamson, Boris, Mourdaunt, Mogg beats them all.
If he wants it and could get to the membership Mogg will be the Tory Corbyn it now seems
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2018/07/09/leave-voting-conservative-party-members-are-starti/0 -
Haha. May has the good grace to laugh at Corbyn's jibe about collective cabinet responsibility being restored.
Brilliant line about bus cuts too.0 -
there is one version of the coming days where we get a complete leave / remain realignment of British Politics - this looks like an attempt at a coup to me0
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We drink chlorine every single day.Anorak said:
NEWSFLASH: Man hospitalised after drinking four pints of shampoo. "I don't understand. I wash the kids with this every night."brendan16 said:
We coat our kids in chlorine everytime they go swimming. Not sure why it's any worse for chicken?FrancisUrquhart said:I do despair at the level of debate....old Fat head was banging on about chlorinated chicken as the reason why we can't Brexit / do a deal with America.
There are lots of reasons why there are lots of complications, but this nonsense on chlorinated chicken is just bollocks. When he was called on it, that we already have products that are chlorinated, but he said but the public are resistant to it....well you massive muppet, the public simply won't buy it will they.
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I have a lot of respect for May, absolutely none for Boris.
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Never thought I'd say this, but Corbyn doing a good job. Theresa trying to show it's water off a ducks back by permanently laughing in a way which makes her look borderline deranged.0
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Some pretty killer lines from Jezza.0
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Nice callback from JC on the buses. It all makes sense now.0
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Alan it is surprising that you of all people fail to understand that the NI border is f*ck all to do with trade.Alanbrooke said:
Trade across the NI border is about 1 day of total UK EU trade. You don't negotiate trade deals on the margins except as counters to eventually concede.Anazina said:
It really isn't.Alanbrooke said:
NoTOPPING said:Do all the PB Brexiters now see how NI is driving substantially all our proposed EU settlement?
its just a big red herring.
The RoI has no plans for a non-deal and it is now too late for them to do anything, if we go down, they do too. They are a hostage in a negotiation they don't control.0 -
Leave voters = people you don't understandSouthamObserver said:
We = Ikjohnw said:
Wrong, we valued our sovereignty and independence and freedom, and we were prepared to accept the short to medium term hit on our economy , for the long term gains brexit would eventually bring once we have managed to unshackle ourselves from the EU prison and make ourselves competitive in the world againBig_G_NorthWales said:
No they are not. Few voted to lose their jobs. You are getting carried away. Hard Brexit is overGIN1138 said:
The Brexiteers are representing 17.4m people who WON the referendum.Big_G_NorthWales said:
A cull of the Brexiteers is neededdixiedean said:
You must admit it is giving a reasonable impression of so doing.Big_G_NorthWales said:
No it is notGIN1138 said:
The government is collapsing.rottenborough said:OMG. Just heard Boris has gone. It's all out war now!
Leave voters were promised no downsides and all the benefits of being an EU member state with none of the negatives.
I voted Leave and was promised nothing of the sort, you just make it up0 -
Given the Conservatives have now embraced tax-and-spend, there's room for a pro-business, low taxation, small State, socially liberal Party of the centre-Right.HYUFD said:
The only way the Tories die off is if a more right-wing party replaces them. See the Progressive Conservatives in Canada who from 1993 to 2004 were overtaken by the populist right Reform Party/Alliance until the two eventually merged under future PM Harper to form the Canadian Conservative Party
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I thought that was a spoof post – then I realised you were simply deranged and delusional.kjohnw said:
Wrong, we valued our sovereignty and independence and freedom, and we were prepared to accept the short to medium term hit on our economy , for the long term gains brexit would eventually bring once we have managed to unshackle ourselves from the EU prison and make ourselves competitive in the world againBig_G_NorthWales said:
No they are not. Few voted to lose their jobs. You are getting carried away. Hard Brexit is overGIN1138 said:
The Brexiteers are representing 17.4m people who WON the referendum.Big_G_NorthWales said:
A cull of the Brexiteers is neededdixiedean said:
You must admit it is giving a reasonable impression of so doing.Big_G_NorthWales said:
No it is notGIN1138 said:
The government is collapsing.rottenborough said:OMG. Just heard Boris has gone. It's all out war now!
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Not by the Remainers they weren't. Remainers assured us that Brexit would be doom and gloom so Remainers arguing now that a hard Brexit is doom and gloom should already be factored in.SouthamObserver said:
We = Ikjohnw said:
Wrong, we valued our sovereignty and independence and freedom, and we were prepared to accept the short to medium term hit on our economy , for the long term gains brexit would eventually bring once we have managed to unshackle ourselves from the EU prison and make ourselves competitive in the world againBig_G_NorthWales said:
No they are not. Few voted to lose their jobs. You are getting carried away. Hard Brexit is overGIN1138 said:
The Brexiteers are representing 17.4m people who WON the referendum.Big_G_NorthWales said:
A cull of the Brexiteers is neededdixiedean said:
You must admit it is giving a reasonable impression of so doing.Big_G_NorthWales said:
No it is notGIN1138 said:
The government is collapsing.rottenborough said:OMG. Just heard Boris has gone. It's all out war now!
Leave voters were promised no downsides and all the benefits of being an EU member state with none of the negatives.0 -
Mrs May is lucky to be facing Corbyn. He's the political eqUivalent of Panama. Very poor and missing so many chances0
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Now going off the rails trying to claim we'll end up deregulating...if only! This is an awful starting position precisely because we can't diverge.maaarsh said:Never thought I'd say this, but Corbyn doing a good job. Theresa trying to show it's water off a ducks back by permanently laughing in a way which makes her look borderline deranged.
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"Europe Elects
@EuropeElects
1m1 minute ago
Germany, INSA poll:
CDU/CSU-EPP: 29%
AfD-EFDD: 18% (+1)
SPD-S&D: 17% (-2)
GRÜNE-G/EFA: 12%
LINKE-LEFT: 11%
FDP-ALDE: 10% (+1)
Field work: 6/07/18 – 9/07/18
Sample size: 2,061"0 -
May has mis-managed to lose her Head of Brexit and her Head of Foreign Relatons. That demonstrates a monumental fuck-up in her handling of Brexit.
She is overseeing the biggest humiliation in British standing since Suez.
For God's sake woman, forty billion quid buys you some concessions from the EU.
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Jezza doing a good job of laying in at the moment.0
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Corbyn did well there.0
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Martin Schulz, the most disastrous leader for the German left since forever ?AndyJS said:"Europe Elects
@EuropeElects
1m1 minute ago
Germany, INSA poll:
CDU/CSU-EPP: 29%
AfD-EFDD: 18% (+1)
SPD-S&D: 17% (-2)
GRÜNE-G/EFA: 12%
LINKE-LEFT: 11%
FDP-ALDE: 10% (+1)
Field work: 6/07/18 – 9/07/18
Sample size: 2,061"0 -
I don't know why Tory backbenchers are laughing at Jezza. They are involved in a national humiliation of their own making.0
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Ditto. I'm glad his true colours have been revealed for . What an arseh*le.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As a conservative I am ashamed by Boris Johnson's recent actions and we are well rid of himdixiedean said:
Is that still open though? Are people hanging on the every word of an appalling FS and his latest bollocks?TheScreamingEagles said:I reckon Boris is going to do one at least one of the following
1) Urge the ousting of Mrs May
or
2) Quit politics, heard for years that he's missing the £250k a year gig at the Telegraph.0 -
Not if you're not prepared to walk away.MarqueeMark said:May has mis-managed to lose her Head of Brexit and her Head of Foreign Relatons. That demonstrates a monumental fuck-up in her handling of Brexit.
She is overseeing the biggest humiliation in British standing since Suez.
For God's sake woman, forty billion quid buys you some concessions from the EU.
At this rate we'll be lucky to have her not sign up to us continuing to pay our full membership fees but without a rebate.0 -
What an absolute bloody shambles.
I honestly have no idea where the Tories go and Brexit goes from here. The fear of Tories and DUP of Corbyn should ensure no GE for years yet so I can only imagine we have a 92-97 style mortally wounded administration clinging on with no effective majority or mandate, god knows what sort of Brexit deal but clearly involving vassalage as we bend over whilst Barnier fucks us over good and proper , and a landslide defeat in 2022 putting the Tories out of power for 20 years if not forever.
That said, I have never entirely rescinded my post referendum comment that I couldn't honestly ever see us leaving regardless of the result. It has to look less likely now than 24 hours ago. (Conversely perhaps its now more likely that we get the softest of all possible Brexit??)
Lest we forget, every day of this sorry saga is down to Cameron and his failure to achieve the meaningful tweaks to our relationship with the EU which would have put the EU issue to bed for good. Useless canute.
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maaarsh said:
Never thought I'd say this, but Corbyn doing a good job. Theresa trying to show it's water off a ducks back by permanently laughing in a way which makes her look borderline deranged.
There is nothing to laugh about here. This is a fiasco of historic proportions.0 -
Priti Patel needs to be less subtleScott_P said:0 -
Jezza got the soundbites in. The bus one was particularly good. The stoney faces on the govt bench were a picture.
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I see it as the greatest national humiliation in my lifetime and one of the greatest in British history. Only Munich and the fall of Singapore come close in modern history. And Cameron and May are the guilty ones, though others have to take their (much smaller) share of blame.AndyJS said:
Do you welcome that?anothernick said:Brexit is now dead in any meaningful sense. The UK will either withdraw article 50 completely or accept vassal status and stay in all the EU economic structure with no say in the political structure.
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AfD now the second largest party in Germany on a Eurosceptic, anti immigration ticket on this pollAndyJS said:"Europe Elects
@EuropeElects
1m1 minute ago
Germany, INSA poll:
CDU/CSU-EPP: 29%
AfD-EFDD: 18% (+1)
SPD-S&D: 17% (-2)
GRÜNE-G/EFA: 12%
LINKE-LEFT: 11%
FDP-ALDE: 10% (+1)
Field work: 6/07/18 – 9/07/18
Sample size: 2,061"0 -
Davis and Johnson were the two biggest buffoons in Cabinet. Fox at least had the self awareness to stay quiet. Last Friday was pretty much set up to force Johnson to flounce. May is to be congratulated for finally getting rid of them.MarqueeMark said:May has mis-managed to lose her Head of Brexit and her Head of Foreign Relatons. That demonstrates a monumental fuck-up in her handling of Brexit.
She is overseeing the biggest humiliation in British standing since Suez.
For God's sake woman, forty billion quid buys you some concessions from the EU.
And where do you get the idea that £40bn over many years is a lot of money for a trillion euro economy? Delusional.
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au contraire it is because I have watched an army of shits who don't give a damn about the place spew out their crocodile tears that I am fully convinced it has all to do with money and very little to do with people.TOPPING said:
Alan it is surprising that you of all people fail to understand that the NI border is f*ck all to do with trade.Alanbrooke said:
Trade across the NI border is about 1 day of total UK EU trade. You don't negotiate trade deals on the margins except as counters to eventually concede.Anazina said:
It really isn't.Alanbrooke said:
NoTOPPING said:Do all the PB Brexiters now see how NI is driving substantially all our proposed EU settlement?
its just a big red herring.
The RoI has no plans for a non-deal and it is now too late for them to do anything, if we go down, they do too. They are a hostage in a negotiation they don't control.
If it was to do with people then the EU and Irish government would have had the common sense to stop weaponizing a dispute that need time to bed in and work constructively for a workable solution.
cnts and I really do hope this blows up in their face.0 -
LOL. Just replace the sorry rabble with other MPs – what a pathetic shower the Tory Right are. Their childish antics are actually serving to unite people behind the PM. I'm with May here.Scott_P said:0 -
Penny Mordaunt? Can't be Leadsome.Scott_P said:0 -
I'm surprised Liam Fox hasn't resigned yet. If anything his Brexit views are more hardline than David and Johnson.0
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LMAOTheScreamingEagles said:
Priti Patel needs to be less subtleScott_P said:0 -
Ouch. May really shouldn't have mentioned Corbyn's resignations. That's an own goal. As PM you don't put yourself in the same bracket as the LotO. Very weak.0
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She will sign up to ANYTHING right now. She has to go.Philip_Thompson said:
Not if you're not prepared to walk away.MarqueeMark said:May has mis-managed to lose her Head of Brexit and her Head of Foreign Relatons. That demonstrates a monumental fuck-up in her handling of Brexit.
She is overseeing the biggest humiliation in British standing since Suez.
For God's sake woman, forty billion quid buys you some concessions from the EU.
At this rate we'll be lucky to have her not sign up to us continuing to pay our full membership fees but without a rebate.0 -
You always know Corbyn's doing well if PB Tories accuse him of being "shouty"The_Apocalypse said:Corbyn did well there.
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She's got nothing to resign from.TheScreamingEagles said:
Priti Patel needs to be less subtleScott_P said:0 -
Maybe he should take lessons from Corbyn. Labour are averaging more than double the SPD score at the moment.Pulpstar said:
Martin Schulz, the most disastrous leader for the German left since forever ?AndyJS said:"Europe Elects
@EuropeElects
1m1 minute ago
Germany, INSA poll:
CDU/CSU-EPP: 29%
AfD-EFDD: 18% (+1)
SPD-S&D: 17% (-2)
GRÜNE-G/EFA: 12%
LINKE-LEFT: 11%
FDP-ALDE: 10% (+1)
Field work: 6/07/18 – 9/07/18
Sample size: 2,061"0 -
The IDS tactic.maaarsh said:Never thought I'd say this, but Corbyn doing a good job. Theresa trying to show it's water off a ducks back by permanently laughing in a way which makes her look borderline deranged.
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I wonder if that taxi comment will turn out to be the straw that broke the camels back and ultimately lead to her downfall.0
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Completely agreed. She is weak, weak, weak.MarqueeMark said:
She will sign up to ANYTHING right now. She has to go.Philip_Thompson said:
Not if you're not prepared to walk away.MarqueeMark said:May has mis-managed to lose her Head of Brexit and her Head of Foreign Relatons. That demonstrates a monumental fuck-up in her handling of Brexit.
She is overseeing the biggest humiliation in British standing since Suez.
For God's sake woman, forty billion quid buys you some concessions from the EU.
At this rate we'll be lucky to have her not sign up to us continuing to pay our full membership fees but without a rebate.0 -
There already is a UK Libertarian Party and at most a libertarian party would get about 10% as with the FDP in Germany.stodge said:
Given the Conservatives have now embraced tax-and-spend, there's room for a pro-business, low taxation, small State, socially liberal Party of the centre-Right.HYUFD said:
The only way the Tories die off is if a more right-wing party replaces them. See the Progressive Conservatives in Canada who from 1993 to 2004 were overtaken by the populist right Reform Party/Alliance until the two eventually merged under future PM Harper to form the Canadian Conservative Party
If the Tories are replaced it will be by a populist right party hard on immigration, as with Lega Nord in Italy who have now overtaken Forza Italia, the Front National in France who beat Les Republicains in the presidential election or the Swedish Democrats in Sweden who have overtaken the Moderates in the polls, or in Poland the Law and Justice Party who overtook the Civic Platform or indeed in Northern Ireland where the DUP overtook the UUP.
In Canada Reform was also the populist right-wing alternative to the PCs0 -
Taxi for May.FrancisUrquhart said:I wonder if that taxi comment will turn out to be the straw that broke the camels back and ultimately lead to her downfall.
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I have to say I would be reasonably happy with the plan but the suspicion must be that this is our first flag in the ground, and the EU will roll us back to something unpalatable.MaxPB said:
If that's true and no further changes are made, then it's a fairly good deal. I'd be on board for it. Just hope I don't get shipped out to work in Luxembourg or Tallinn with a few, err, dozen others!TOPPING said:She must have some pre-agreement with Barnier.
This is too confident.0 -
Oh dear.The_Apocalypse said:May is getting laughed at
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He's now gone. They managed to find someone worsePulpstar said:
Martin Schulz, the most disastrous leader for the German left since forever ?AndyJS said:"Europe Elects
@EuropeElects
1m1 minute ago
Germany, INSA poll:
CDU/CSU-EPP: 29%
AfD-EFDD: 18% (+1)
SPD-S&D: 17% (-2)
GRÜNE-G/EFA: 12%
LINKE-LEFT: 11%
FDP-ALDE: 10% (+1)
Field work: 6/07./18 – 9/07/18
Sample size: 2,061"
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What does she resign from?!TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
For crying out loud. It doesn't mean we should wash chicken in it. We should be moving towards less food processing, not more. Well reared free-range chicken doesn't need chlorine on it. The reason they chlorinate chicken is because it is utter shite.Philip_Thompson said:
We drink chlorine every single day.Anorak said:
NEWSFLASH: Man hospitalised after drinking four pints of shampoo. "I don't understand. I wash the kids with this every night."brendan16 said:
We coat our kids in chlorine everytime they go swimming. Not sure why it's any worse for chicken?FrancisUrquhart said:I do despair at the level of debate....old Fat head was banging on about chlorinated chicken as the reason why we can't Brexit / do a deal with America.
There are lots of reasons why there are lots of complications, but this nonsense on chlorinated chicken is just bollocks. When he was called on it, that we already have products that are chlorinated, but he said but the public are resistant to it....well you massive muppet, the public simply won't buy it will they.
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I suppose we'll find out if she's as tough/thick skinned as Corbyn then.Scott_P said:0 -
Bercow being quite helpful to Mrs May by calling hardline Tory leavers0
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Before I left London, Davis was gone. Before I leave Dusseldorf, Boris is gone. Who would be gone after I land in London ?0
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Truss would be the other possibility. Mordaunt definitely fancies herself though.SouthamObserver said:0 -
LOL. Fair play to Corbyn, he turned up today.Stereotomy said:
You always know Corbyn's doing well if PB Tories accuse him of being "shouty"The_Apocalypse said:Corbyn did well there.
The Right of the Tory party are sounding insane from some of these tweets though, especially that last one by Lucy Fisher.0 -
Any Spad who was remotely stupid enough to be publically playing petty politics with "taxis" ahead of the Chequers Brexit summit should have their phone and pass taken away - and never be allowed in a Government building ever again. What twats.FrancisUrquhart said:I wonder if that taxi comment will turn out to be the straw that broke the camels back and ultimately lead to her downfall.
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Mr. JS, AfD vote holding up well and even increasing.
Mr. Max, Mordaunt would be an excellent choice.0 -
Taking a leaf out of Charlie Falconer's book?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Whittingdale gets it.TheScreamingEagles said:
This attack on the Brexiteers from Theresa May (right from Friday's taxi nonsense) is actually an attack on the 17.4m people they are in the Cabinet to represent.0 -
Yeh right.
https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1016336840801112065
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I understand that each Leave voter is an individual. As you make clear.Alanbrooke said:
Leave voters = people you don't understandSouthamObserver said:
We = Ikjohnw said:
Wrong, we valued our sovereignty and independence and freedom, and we were prepared to accept the short to medium term hit on our economy , for the long term gains brexit would eventually bring once we have managed to unshackle ourselves from the EU prison and make ourselves competitive in the world againBig_G_NorthWales said:
No they are not. Few voted to lose their jobs. You are getting carried away. Hard Brexit is overGIN1138 said:
The Brexiteers are representing 17.4m people who WON the referendum.Big_G_NorthWales said:
A cull of the Brexiteers is neededdixiedean said:
You must admit it is giving a reasonable impression of so doing.Big_G_NorthWales said:
No it is notGIN1138 said:
The government is collapsing.rottenborough said:OMG. Just heard Boris has gone. It's all out war now!
Leave voters were promised no downsides and all the benefits of being an EU member state with none of the negatives.
I voted Leave and was promised nothing of the sort, you just make it up
We were all promised a Leave with no downsides. All warnings to the contrary were dismissed as Project Fear. Some of us - on both sides of the divide - chose not to believe what the Leave elite were saying.
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Fighting like ferrets/rats out of the sack ?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
LOLGIN1138 said:
Whittingdale gets it.TheScreamingEagles said:
This attack on the Brexiteers from Theresa May (right from Friday's taxi nonsense) is actually an attack on the 17.4m people they are in the Cabinet to represent.
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Currently fifteen hours between Cabinet-level resignations. Perhaps Fox departs at 6am tomorrow morning?AndyJS said:I'm surprised Liam Fox hasn't resigned yet. If anything his Brexit views are more hardline than David and Johnson.
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The chlorine wash is to remove campylobacter and salmonella.Anazina said:
For crying out loud. It doesn't mean we should wash chicken in it. We should be moving towards less food processing, not more. Well reared free-range chicken doesn't need chlorine on it. The reason they chlorinate chicken is because it is utter shite.Philip_Thompson said:
We drink chlorine every single day.Anorak said:
NEWSFLASH: Man hospitalised after drinking four pints of shampoo. "I don't understand. I wash the kids with this every night."brendan16 said:
We coat our kids in chlorine everytime they go swimming. Not sure why it's any worse for chicken?FrancisUrquhart said:I do despair at the level of debate....old Fat head was banging on about chlorinated chicken as the reason why we can't Brexit / do a deal with America.
There are lots of reasons why there are lots of complications, but this nonsense on chlorinated chicken is just bollocks. When he was called on it, that we already have products that are chlorinated, but he said but the public are resistant to it....well you massive muppet, the public simply won't buy it will they.
https://www.water.org.uk/consumers/water-and-health/faqs#chlorine
Every single EU state has campylobacter in their chickens.
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Even Davis sees Boris for what he is....TheScreamingEagles said:
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Not entirely. The first "problem" was the Referendum itself called by Cameron to stem the defections to UKIP - it worked brilliantly. 2015 delivered a Conservative majority but it left Cameron having to fulfil his pledge which wasn't at the time for an IN/OUT referendum but for a referendum on a renegotiated membership package (where NO meant status quo not leaving).Bob__Sykes said:Lest we forget, every day of this sorry saga is down to Cameron and his failure to achieve the meaningful tweaks to our relationship with the EU which would have put the EU issue to bed for good. Useless canute.
When he came back from his various perorations round Europe with the sum total of bugger all, he was forced to allow the Referendum to be truly IN/OUT.
Even then, he thought that having won the Scottish Referendum and the 2015 GE his own charisma and popularity would carry team REMAIN home.
So you have opportunism, failure and hubris as all part of the package. The other consequence of this failure was the divisions within the Conservative Party, far from being sealed for a generation by a political masterstroke, were left unresolved and this is one of the periodic eruptions.0 -
My understanding is that the criticism of chlorine washing isn't about the idea that you might consume chlorine. It's that it's a less effective way of preventing food poisoningAnazina said:
For crying out loud. It doesn't mean we should wash chicken in it. We should be moving towards less food processing, not more. Well reared free-range chicken doesn't need chlorine on it. The reason they chlorinate chicken is because it is utter shite.Philip_Thompson said:
We drink chlorine every single day.Anorak said:
NEWSFLASH: Man hospitalised after drinking four pints of shampoo. "I don't understand. I wash the kids with this every night."brendan16 said:
We coat our kids in chlorine everytime they go swimming. Not sure why it's any worse for chicken?FrancisUrquhart said:I do despair at the level of debate....old Fat head was banging on about chlorinated chicken as the reason why we can't Brexit / do a deal with America.
There are lots of reasons why there are lots of complications, but this nonsense on chlorinated chicken is just bollocks. When he was called on it, that we already have products that are chlorinated, but he said but the public are resistant to it....well you massive muppet, the public simply won't buy it will they.
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Good new name for a lubricant..Bob__Sykes said:god knows what sort of Brexit deal but clearly involving vassalage as we bend over whilst Barnier fucks us over good and proper.
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