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After "Bollocks to Brexit", now Speaker Bercow has a sticker on his car saying "Don't blame me, I voted Remain" https://t.co/uA6sWWWmwA pic.twitter.com/h3Hy7ZyDLC
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First like Wenger in the Real betting.0
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Sam Allardyce for Real.tlg86 said:First like Wenger in the Real betting.
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If he's using his Simpson's references correctly, that sticker is implying that Remain and Leave are essentially the same thing.0
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80-1TheScreamingEagles said:
Sam Allardyce for Real.tlg86 said:First like Wenger in the Real betting.
On topic - Bercow probably won't go. Even though he should, but it shouldn't be about this if he does - rather his disgraceful behaviour toward his colleagues and juniors (Not MPs), even though it probably will be about this if he does go.0 -
Anyone know how Rajoy is getting on ?0
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John Bercow.
Trigger warning for the PB Tories.
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F1: mildly surprised, but it seems hypersofts will be taken to Canada. Mercedes and Haas will not be pleased, probably.
Edited extra bit: and the US has put up steel and aluminium tariffs:
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99% of people couldn't care less about Bercow, or the speakership in general.Pulpstar said:
80-1TheScreamingEagles said:
Sam Allardyce for Real.tlg86 said:First like Wenger in the Real betting.
On topic - Bercow probably won't go. Even though he should, but it shouldn't be about this if he does - rather his disgraceful behaviour toward his colleagues and juniors (Not MPs), even though it probably will be about this if he does go.
It is only on this forum that the obsession is rife.0 -
well it is www.politicalbetting.com *cough*Anazina said:
99% of people couldn't care less about Bercow, or the speakership in general.Pulpstar said:
80-1TheScreamingEagles said:
Sam Allardyce for Real.tlg86 said:First like Wenger in the Real betting.
On topic - Bercow probably won't go. Even though he should, but it shouldn't be about this if he does - rather his disgraceful behaviour toward his colleagues and juniors (Not MPs), even though it probably will be about this if he does go.
It is only on this forum that the obsession is rife.0 -
The choice of tyres was made some time back, so it's not exactly a surprise. Mercedes chosen tyre allocation - made before Monaco - was extremely conservative (five sets of the Ultrasoft, compared with their rivals' three). Given the feeble life of the Hypersofts, that might stand them in good stead - in Montreal, unlike Monaco, overtaking is relatively easy, so there is no trundling around saving your rubber...Morris_Dancer said:F1: mildly surprised, but it seems hypersofts will be taken to Canada. Mercedes and Haas will not be pleased, probably.
Edited extra bit: and the US has put up steel and aluminium tariffs:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44320221
As for the steel tariffs, defensive action by Europe is almost inevitable (20m tonnes of cheap Chinese steel will be looking for a new home...). Trade wars are in no one's interest, but unilaterally surrendering seems even more costly in the short term.0 -
‘No’ could be taken two ways. No I don’t want a ‘sensible Brexit compromise’ or No I don’t want Brexit at all!TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
https://order-order.com/2018/05/31/tory-london-mayoral-candidate-runners-and-riders/
None of those will beat Khan.0 -
Leading question. Who says a compromise is sensible? More likely a fudge between the worst of being in and the worst of being out.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Exactly. A soft Brexit pleases no one.SandyRentool said:
Leading question. Who says a compromise is sensible? More likely a fudge between the worst of being in and the worst of being out.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
A voodoo poll with a seriously loaded question, these sort of things used to be frowned upon here...TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
The EU is being somewhere between viciously malignant and thoroughly incompetent. What a shock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvXOfq3AB8s0 -
Shaun Bailey should be nominated and ought to win. Not that he necessarily will, obvs.FrancisUrquhart said:https://order-order.com/2018/05/31/tory-london-mayoral-candidate-runners-and-riders/
None of those will beat Khan.
Edit: oh that upset BF - just took the 20s (19s) and the price went to 1.01!!
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99% of people don't bet on politics.Anazina said:
99% of people couldn't care less about Bercow, or the speakership in general.Pulpstar said:
80-1TheScreamingEagles said:
Sam Allardyce for Real.tlg86 said:First like Wenger in the Real betting.
On topic - Bercow probably won't go. Even though he should, but it shouldn't be about this if he does - rather his disgraceful behaviour toward his colleagues and juniors (Not MPs), even though it probably will be about this if he does go.
It is only on this forum that the obsession is rife.
There's a market on this, and there is a significantly larger than zero chance that Bercow will go - and it has been front page news on a couple of occasions recently - so 'obsession' is a pretty loaded term.0 -
Sounds a bit like Mrs May's Home Office...Morris_Dancer said:The EU is being somewhere between viciously malignant and thoroughly incompetent....
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Mr. B, I wonder how many stops there will be. If it's two either way, better to start on the hypers for optimal grid position.0
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Sounds like a terrible idea.
Where am I going to get my tax minimisation strategy from?
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And, the case of the Home Office, both at the same time.Nigelb said:
Sounds a bit like Mrs May's Home Office...Morris_Dancer said:The EU is being somewhere between viciously malignant and thoroughly incompetent....
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Hurrah.
The United States has fired the opening shots in a trade war with three of its traditional allies after imposing tariffs on imported steel and aluminium from the European Union, Canada and Mexico.
Wilbur Ross, Donald Trump’s commerce secretary, said the 25% duty on steel and the 10% duty on aluminium would be imposed from midnight.
In a move that is likely to prompt retaliation from Brussels, Ross said talks with the EU had not shown enough progress for European steel and aluminium producers to continue to be exempted from the tariffs.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/31/us-fires-opening-salvo-in-trade-war-with-eu-canada-and-mexico?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other0 -
Just had a Guardian flash to the effect that the US has raised its tariffs on steel imported fromt he EU, Canada and Mexico.0
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From John Bercow’s view, he’s annoying the right people. The headbangers already hate him. The risk to his position comes from MPs elsewhere in the House of Commons, many of whom will be happy to have a Speaker who is disposed to detailed criticism of this policy.0
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The hypersofts are awesome, much like the old qualifying tyres. Next job is to remove the fuel flow limits for the session, then we can have qualifying engines back too!Morris_Dancer said:Mr. B, I wonder how many stops there will be. If it's two either way, better to start on the hypers for optimal grid position.
Canada will probably be a marginal two-stopper if it’s dry and with no SC. Somewhat easier to overtake than at Monaco.0 -
Mr. Sandpit, remove the fuel flow limit? But, think of the environment?!?!?!?!&*^%&!!?
I wonder if Verstappen will say hello to the Wall of Champions.0 -
So there will be a boost for Uk metal exporters from next March ?TheScreamingEagles said:Hurrah.
The United States has fired the opening shots in a trade war with three of its traditional allies after imposing tariffs on imported steel and aluminium from the European Union, Canada and Mexico.
Wilbur Ross, Donald Trump’s commerce secretary, said the 25% duty on steel and the 10% duty on aluminium would be imposed from midnight.
In a move that is likely to prompt retaliation from Brussels, Ross said talks with the EU had not shown enough progress for European steel and aluminium producers to continue to be exempted from the tariffs.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/31/us-fires-opening-salvo-in-trade-war-with-eu-canada-and-mexico?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other0 -
If we just insist on calling it ‘aluminium’ could we sneak it through?TheScreamingEagles said:Hurrah.
The United States has fired the opening shots in a trade war with three of its traditional allies after imposing tariffs on imported steel and aluminium from the European Union, Canada and Mexico.
Wilbur Ross, Donald Trump’s commerce secretary, said the 25% duty on steel and the 10% duty on aluminium would be imposed from midnight.
In a move that is likely to prompt retaliation from Brussels, Ross said talks with the EU had not shown enough progress for European steel and aluminium producers to continue to be exempted from the tariffs.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/31/us-fires-opening-salvo-in-trade-war-with-eu-canada-and-mexico?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other0 -
No. We’ll still get hit.TGOHF said:
So there will be a boost for Uk metal exporters from next March ?TheScreamingEagles said:Hurrah.
The United States has fired the opening shots in a trade war with three of its traditional allies after imposing tariffs on imported steel and aluminium from the European Union, Canada and Mexico.
Wilbur Ross, Donald Trump’s commerce secretary, said the 25% duty on steel and the 10% duty on aluminium would be imposed from midnight.
In a move that is likely to prompt retaliation from Brussels, Ross said talks with the EU had not shown enough progress for European steel and aluminium producers to continue to be exempted from the tariffs.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/31/us-fires-opening-salvo-in-trade-war-with-eu-canada-and-mexico?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other0 -
Markets slump, says Telegraph live blogTheScreamingEagles said:Hurrah.
The United States has fired the opening shots in a trade war with three of its traditional allies after imposing tariffs on imported steel and aluminium from the European Union, Canada and Mexico.
Wilbur Ross, Donald Trump’s commerce secretary, said the 25% duty on steel and the 10% duty on aluminium would be imposed from midnight.
In a move that is likely to prompt retaliation from Brussels, Ross said talks with the EU had not shown enough progress for European steel and aluminium producers to continue to be exempted from the tariffs.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/31/us-fires-opening-salvo-in-trade-war-with-eu-canada-and-mexico?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other0 -
Seems like the EU is being equally as intransigent with the US as the UK
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/30/tariffs-shouldnt-stop-us-from-negotiating-wilbur-ross-tells-the-eu.html
"U.S. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross has called out the European Union for opposing trade negotiations at a time when China was willing to hold talks.
"China are paying their tariffs," Ross told the panel at an economic development forum in Paris on Wednesday, in response to EU criticism of sweeping import tariffs the White House announced on its trade partners all over the world in March.
"China hasn't used that as an excuse not to negotiate... It's only the EU that is insisting we can't negotiate if there are tariffs," he added."0 -
Sounds worse that a 'terrible idea'. It sounds terrifying similar to the mad ideas of people like pol pot, who arrested all the teachers, doctors etc etc. As they were the ones who had their own ideas.TheScreamingEagles said:Sounds like a terrible idea.
Where am I going to get my tax minimisation strategy from?
https://twitter.com/theredroar/status/1002168778963210240?s=21
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Until we do our own bespoke deal.TheScreamingEagles said:
No. We’ll still get hit.TGOHF said:
So there will be a boost for Uk metal exporters from next March ?TheScreamingEagles said:Hurrah.
The United States has fired the opening shots in a trade war with three of its traditional allies after imposing tariffs on imported steel and aluminium from the European Union, Canada and Mexico.
Wilbur Ross, Donald Trump’s commerce secretary, said the 25% duty on steel and the 10% duty on aluminium would be imposed from midnight.
In a move that is likely to prompt retaliation from Brussels, Ross said talks with the EU had not shown enough progress for European steel and aluminium producers to continue to be exempted from the tariffs.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/31/us-fires-opening-salvo-in-trade-war-with-eu-canada-and-mexico?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other0 -
We'll have to wait for the race sims in practice to have any idea; though it's a much faster track than Monaco, Canada is pretty easy on the tyres.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. B, I wonder how many stops there will be. If it's two either way, better to start on the hypers for optimal grid position.
Mercedes ought to be able to get through Q2 on the Ultras, so I expect them to try to start on those.
Overtaking is easy, so it will be very interesting to see how many laps the Hypers last without massively losing pace if drivers are pushing on them. Monaco gave us no idea of that, as they were running round about 5 seconds off true race pace to conserve them.0 -
Before putting a tariff on aluminium they should learn how to spell it.TheScreamingEagles said:Hurrah.
The United States has fired the opening shots in a trade war with three of its traditional allies after imposing tariffs on imported steel and aluminium from the European Union, Canada and Mexico.
Wilbur Ross, Donald Trump’s commerce secretary, said the 25% duty on steel and the 10% duty on aluminium would be imposed from midnight.
In a move that is likely to prompt retaliation from Brussels, Ross said talks with the EU had not shown enough progress for European steel and aluminium producers to continue to be exempted from the tariffs.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/31/us-fires-opening-salvo-in-trade-war-with-eu-canada-and-mexico?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other0 -
Canada has an FTA with the USA. Why on earth do you think the UK wouldn't get the same treatment?TGOHF said:
Until we do our own bespoke deal.TheScreamingEagles said:
No. We’ll still get hit.TGOHF said:
So there will be a boost for Uk metal exporters from next March ?TheScreamingEagles said:Hurrah.
The United States has fired the opening shots in a trade war with three of its traditional allies after imposing tariffs on imported steel and aluminium from the European Union, Canada and Mexico.
Wilbur Ross, Donald Trump’s commerce secretary, said the 25% duty on steel and the 10% duty on aluminium would be imposed from midnight.
In a move that is likely to prompt retaliation from Brussels, Ross said talks with the EU had not shown enough progress for European steel and aluminium producers to continue to be exempted from the tariffs.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/31/us-fires-opening-salvo-in-trade-war-with-eu-canada-and-mexico?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other0 -
Chlorinated chicken here we come.TGOHF said:
Until we do our own bespoke deal.TheScreamingEagles said:
No. We’ll still get hit.TGOHF said:
So there will be a boost for Uk metal exporters from next March ?TheScreamingEagles said:Hurrah.
The United States has fired the opening shots in a trade war with three of its traditional allies after imposing tariffs on imported steel and aluminium from the European Union, Canada and Mexico.
Wilbur Ross, Donald Trump’s commerce secretary, said the 25% duty on steel and the 10% duty on aluminium would be imposed from midnight.
In a move that is likely to prompt retaliation from Brussels, Ross said talks with the EU had not shown enough progress for European steel and aluminium producers to continue to be exempted from the tariffs.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/31/us-fires-opening-salvo-in-trade-war-with-eu-canada-and-mexico?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other0 -
Trump doesn't believe in free trade. He thinks trade and in fact, all deals, are zero sum games that he must win and to win the other guy must lose.williamglenn said:
Canada has an FTA with the USA. Why on earth do you think the UK wouldn't get the same treatment?TGOHF said:
Until we do our own bespoke deal.TheScreamingEagles said:
No. We’ll still get hit.TGOHF said:
So there will be a boost for Uk metal exporters from next March ?TheScreamingEagles said:Hurrah.
The United States has fired the opening shots in a trade war with three of its traditional allies after imposing tariffs on imported steel and aluminium from the European Union, Canada and Mexico.
Wilbur Ross, Donald Trump’s commerce secretary, said the 25% duty on steel and the 10% duty on aluminium would be imposed from midnight.
In a move that is likely to prompt retaliation from Brussels, Ross said talks with the EU had not shown enough progress for European steel and aluminium producers to continue to be exempted from the tariffs.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/31/us-fires-opening-salvo-in-trade-war-with-eu-canada-and-mexico?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other0 -
The FTSE is up 12 pts ?rottenborough said:
Markets slump, says Telegraph live blogTheScreamingEagles said:Hurrah.
The United States has fired the opening shots in a trade war with three of its traditional allies after imposing tariffs on imported steel and aluminium from the European Union, Canada and Mexico.
Wilbur Ross, Donald Trump’s commerce secretary, said the 25% duty on steel and the 10% duty on aluminium would be imposed from midnight.
In a move that is likely to prompt retaliation from Brussels, Ross said talks with the EU had not shown enough progress for European steel and aluminium producers to continue to be exempted from the tariffs.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/31/us-fires-opening-salvo-in-trade-war-with-eu-canada-and-mexico?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other0 -
Will be interesting to see how the EU responds.
Do we go for tariffs which will inflict political pain on Trump?0 -
He looks certain to lose the vote of confidence - and the PSOE leader sanchez will take over as an even more minority PM promising elections 'in a few months'. I think he is being very foolish - if it back fires it could destroy PSOE completely - so not all bad. Beneficiaries liklely to be the centrist Ciudadanos. However, more southern Europe instability on the cards for the next few months.Alanbrooke said:Anyone know how Rajoy is getting on ?
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"The United States had $686 billion in total (two ways) goods trade with the European Union during 2016, its largest Goods trade partner. Goods exports totaled $270 billion; Goods imports totaled $416 billion."rkrkrk said:Will be interesting to see how the EU responds.
Do we go for tariffs which will inflict political pain on Trump?
Trump isn't May.0 -
And attacked by Guido too - the most widely-disliked (though widely-read) blog in Westminster for its indiscriminate bile. Yes, yes, Speakers are supposed to be impartial, but having some good enemies is always useful in politics.AlastairMeeks said:From John Bercow’s view, he’s annoying the right people. The headbangers already hate him. The risk to his position comes from MPs elsewhere in the House of Commons, many of whom will be happy to have a Speaker who is disposed to detailed criticism of this policy.
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In the modern era of trade he's more right than wrong.rottenborough said:
Trump doesn't believe in free trade. He thinks trade and in fact, all deals, are zero sum games that he must win and to win the other guy must lose.williamglenn said:
Canada has an FTA with the USA. Why on earth do you think the UK wouldn't get the same treatment?TGOHF said:
Until we do our own bespoke deal.TheScreamingEagles said:
No. We’ll still get hit.TGOHF said:
So there will be a boost for Uk metal exporters from next March ?TheScreamingEagles said:Hurrah.
The United States has fired the opening shots in a trade war with three of its traditional allies after imposing tariffs on imported steel and aluminium from the European Union, Canada and Mexico.
Wilbur Ross, Donald Trump’s commerce secretary, said the 25% duty on steel and the 10% duty on aluminium would be imposed from midnight.
In a move that is likely to prompt retaliation from Brussels, Ross said talks with the EU had not shown enough progress for European steel and aluminium producers to continue to be exempted from the tariffs.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/31/us-fires-opening-salvo-in-trade-war-with-eu-canada-and-mexico?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other0 -
Nah, that wall is for champions, Verstappen won’t be eligible to hit it for a few years yet.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Sandpit, remove the fuel flow limit? But, think of the environment?!?!?!?!&*^%&!!?
I wonder if Verstappen will say hello to the Wall of Champions.
I remember how much I cheered back in 1999 when one M Schumacher binned it on the last chicane and went sliding down the wall Indycar style.0 -
Oh! C'mon! It has to be Pardew. He charges £2m to win one game.TheScreamingEagles said:
Sam Allardyce for Real.tlg86 said:First like Wenger in the Real betting.
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Utterly childish...Sandpit said:
Nah, that wall is for champions, Verstappen won’t be eligible to hit it for a few years yet.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Sandpit, remove the fuel flow limit? But, think of the environment?!?!?!?!&*^%&!!?
I wonder if Verstappen will say hello to the Wall of Champions.
I remember how much I cheered back in 1999 when one M Schumacher binned it on the last chicane and went sliding down the wall Indycar style.
... and I remember doing exactly the same.
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As for strategies, I'm thinking Mercedes one stop, and Ferrari/Red Bull two, which would make things very interesting.
Teams might even split strategies if the alternatives are close enough to each other.0 -
Virtually the entire opposition minus the neo-cons from Northern Ireland will vote for Bercow. I am sure 20 or 30 Tories also will.NickPalmer said:
And attacked by Guido too - the most widely-disliked (though widely-read) blog in Westminster for its indiscriminate bile. Yes, yes, Speakers are supposed to be impartial, but having some good enemies is always useful in politics.AlastairMeeks said:From John Bercow’s view, he’s annoying the right people. The headbangers already hate him. The risk to his position comes from MPs elsewhere in the House of Commons, many of whom will be happy to have a Speaker who is disposed to detailed criticism of this policy.
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Bercow's Buckingham constituents would appreciate it if he had a NO 2 HS2 sticker on his car.
And spoke and voted against HS2 in Parliament.0 -
The Telegraph is taliking about Euro markets not us free Brexiteers.Pulpstar said:
The FTSE is up 12 pts ?rottenborough said:
Markets slump, says Telegraph live blogTheScreamingEagles said:Hurrah.
The United States has fired the opening shots in a trade war with three of its traditional allies after imposing tariffs on imported steel and aluminium from the European Union, Canada and Mexico.
Wilbur Ross, Donald Trump’s commerce secretary, said the 25% duty on steel and the 10% duty on aluminium would be imposed from midnight.
In a move that is likely to prompt retaliation from Brussels, Ross said talks with the EU had not shown enough progress for European steel and aluminium producers to continue to be exempted from the tariffs.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/31/us-fires-opening-salvo-in-trade-war-with-eu-canada-and-mexico?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other0 -
It's some way off, but worth keeping an eye on the Canadian weather. Mind you, the berks in charge changed the rules, so if we had a 2011 type scenario now, it'd be Vettel rather than Button who won (a 4 hour absolute time limit, including red flag breaks).0
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The campaign against him is becoming counter-productive. Allegations of bullying staff etc are now viewed in the context of tory headbangers vs everyone else. And no oppositon MPs will associate themselves with a campaign run by the headbangers.surby said:
Virtually the entire opposition minus the neo-cons from Northern Ireland will vote for Bercow. I am sure 20 or 30 Tories also will.NickPalmer said:
And attacked by Guido too - the most widely-disliked (though widely-read) blog in Westminster for its indiscriminate bile. Yes, yes, Speakers are supposed to be impartial, but having some good enemies is always useful in politics.AlastairMeeks said:From John Bercow’s view, he’s annoying the right people. The headbangers already hate him. The risk to his position comes from MPs elsewhere in the House of Commons, many of whom will be happy to have a Speaker who is disposed to detailed criticism of this policy.
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It’s not a case of winning a vote of confidence by a single vote, it’s a case of maintaining the confidence of the whole House - and more importantly to be seen to be impartial as the referee rather than a participant.surby said:
Virtually the entire opposition minus the neo-cons from Northern Ireland will vote for Bercow. I am sure 20 or 30 Tories also will.NickPalmer said:
And attacked by Guido too - the most widely-disliked (though widely-read) blog in Westminster for its indiscriminate bile. Yes, yes, Speakers are supposed to be impartial, but having some good enemies is always useful in politics.AlastairMeeks said:From John Bercow’s view, he’s annoying the right people. The headbangers already hate him. The risk to his position comes from MPs elsewhere in the House of Commons, many of whom will be happy to have a Speaker who is disposed to detailed criticism of this policy.
It’s deliberately and needlessly provocative, and he’s doing it to wind up people who know he’s completely unsackable. A few more of the moderate MPs on both sides are losing their respect for him with silly stunts like this. Meanwhile it’s serving as a useful distraction to the quite serious allegations against him relating to junior members of staff.0 -
Actually, a soft Brexit will be fine with 80%+ of the population. it just won't please anyone who really cares about the EU.Elliot said:
Exactly. A soft Brexit pleases no one.SandyRentool said:
Leading question. Who says a compromise is sensible? More likely a fudge between the worst of being in and the worst of being out.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
One stoping on a track where it's so easy to overtake will be a risk.Nigelb said:
Utterly childish...Sandpit said:
Nah, that wall is for champions, Verstappen won’t be eligible to hit it for a few years yet.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Sandpit, remove the fuel flow limit? But, think of the environment?!?!?!?!&*^%&!!?
I wonder if Verstappen will say hello to the Wall of Champions.
I remember how much I cheered back in 1999 when one M Schumacher binned it on the last chicane and went sliding down the wall Indycar style.
... and I remember doing exactly the same.
(edit)
As for strategies, I'm thinking Mercedes one stop, and Ferrari/Red Bull two, which would make things very interesting.
Teams might even split strategies if the alternatives are close enough to each other.
My guess is that Mercedes/Ferrari go H/S/H and RB go H/H/U. I don't think any of the middle runners will pose a threat. Even if Renault bring a decent engine upgrade, they and McLaren are too far behind.0 -
Zidane has won the European championship three times in a row managing Real Madrid.tlg86 said:First like Wenger in the Real betting.
Whoever follows him could never do as well. Plus they will inherit an aging Real team. Step away Mr Wenger.
Sam Allardyce has always said he would only get a top job if his name was pronounced Allardiche.0 -
A Brexit which none of the people who care about the issue accept cannot ever resolve matters. It would just ensure the issue remained open for years longer.david_herdson said:
Actually, a soft Brexit will be fine with 80%+ of the population. it just won't please anyone who really cares about the EU.Elliot said:
Exactly. A soft Brexit pleases no one.SandyRentool said:
Leading question. Who says a compromise is sensible? More likely a fudge between the worst of being in and the worst of being out.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Conte seems to be back as favourite for the Italian PM job. Anyone have a clue on this market ? 0
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O/T: French Open is on ITV4.0
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Which moderate MPs do you have in mind?Sandpit said:
It’s not a case of winning a vote of confidence by a single vote, it’s a case of maintaining the confidence of the whole House - and more importantly to be seen to be impartial as the referee rather than a participant.surby said:
Virtually the entire opposition minus the neo-cons from Northern Ireland will vote for Bercow. I am sure 20 or 30 Tories also will.NickPalmer said:
And attacked by Guido too - the most widely-disliked (though widely-read) blog in Westminster for its indiscriminate bile. Yes, yes, Speakers are supposed to be impartial, but having some good enemies is always useful in politics.AlastairMeeks said:From John Bercow’s view, he’s annoying the right people. The headbangers already hate him. The risk to his position comes from MPs elsewhere in the House of Commons, many of whom will be happy to have a Speaker who is disposed to detailed criticism of this policy.
It’s deliberately and needlessly provocative, and he’s doing it to wind up people who know he’s completely unsackable. A few more of the moderate MPs on both sides are losing their respect for him with silly stunts like this. Meanwhile it’s serving as a useful distraction to the quite serious allegations against him relating to junior members of staff.
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Headingley Test Match:
England 1.64
Pakistan 4.6
Draw 5.7
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Indeed, but of all the political matters to concern oneself with this trivial issue attracts an inordinate amount of attention.Pulpstar said:
well it is www.politicalbetting.com *cough*Anazina said:
99% of people couldn't care less about Bercow, or the speakership in general.Pulpstar said:
80-1TheScreamingEagles said:
Sam Allardyce for Real.tlg86 said:First like Wenger in the Real betting.
On topic - Bercow probably won't go. Even though he should, but it shouldn't be about this if he does - rather his disgraceful behaviour toward his colleagues and juniors (Not MPs), even though it probably will be about this if he does go.
It is only on this forum that the obsession is rife.0 -
Nah - needs to end - Uk politicians will need to own their own problems.williamglenn said:
A Brexit which none of the people who care about the issue accept cannot ever resolve matters. It would just ensure the issue remained open for years longer.david_herdson said:
Actually, a soft Brexit will be fine with 80%+ of the population. it just won't please anyone who really cares about the EU.Elliot said:
Exactly. A soft Brexit pleases no one.SandyRentool said:
Leading question. Who says a compromise is sensible? More likely a fudge between the worst of being in and the worst of being out.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Do we know when the Withdrawal Bill amendment votes will be held?0
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Surely distorted by the fact that a lot of people have no interest in betting on any matches involving Pakistan.AndyJS said:Headingley Test Match:
England 1.64
Pakistan 4.6
Draw 5.7
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/cricket/market/1.1442716250 -
Free money on Pakistan - England are holed below the waterline. Only risk is fixing.AndyJS said:Headingley Test Match:
England 1.64
Pakistan 4.6
Draw 5.7
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The Cathy Newman / Jordan Peterson interview has reached 10 million views.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcjxSThD540 -
Mr. JS, this is a witty satire version of the interview:
https://twitter.com/LaloDagach/status/9714489544277278720 -
Why did you make of the al-jareeza investigation that aired the other day?Sandpit said:
Surely distorted by the fact that a lot of people have no interest in betting on any matches involving Pakistan.AndyJS said:Headingley Test Match:
England 1.64
Pakistan 4.6
Draw 5.7
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Ramadan?TGOHF said:
Free money on Pakistan - England are holed below the waterline. Only risk is fixing.AndyJS said:Headingley Test Match:
England 1.64
Pakistan 4.6
Draw 5.7
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Those who wish to see an impartial referee as some of the most critical legislation in decades winds its way through the Commons.anothernick said:
Which moderate MPs do you have in mind?Sandpit said:
It’s not a case of winning a vote of confidence by a single vote, it’s a case of maintaining the confidence of the whole House - and more importantly to be seen to be impartial as the referee rather than a participant.surby said:
Virtually the entire opposition minus the neo-cons from Northern Ireland will vote for Bercow. I am sure 20 or 30 Tories also will.NickPalmer said:
And attacked by Guido too - the most widely-disliked (though widely-read) blog in Westminster for its indiscriminate bile. Yes, yes, Speakers are supposed to be impartial, but having some good enemies is always useful in politics.AlastairMeeks said:From John Bercow’s view, he’s annoying the right people. The headbangers already hate him. The risk to his position comes from MPs elsewhere in the House of Commons, many of whom will be happy to have a Speaker who is disposed to detailed criticism of this policy.
It’s deliberately and needlessly provocative, and he’s doing it to wind up people who know he’s completely unsackable. A few more of the moderate MPs on both sides are losing their respect for him with silly stunts like this. Meanwhile it’s serving as a useful distraction to the quite serious allegations against him relating to junior members of staff.0 -
And Brexycrite Lord Lawson has just announced that he's applying for French residencywilliamglenn said:
A Brexit which none of the people who care about the issue accept cannot ever resolve matters. It would just ensure the issue remained open for years longer.david_herdson said:
Actually, a soft Brexit will be fine with 80%+ of the population. it just won't please anyone who really cares about the EU.Elliot said:
Exactly. A soft Brexit pleases no one.SandyRentool said:
Leading question. Who says a compromise is sensible? More likely a fudge between the worst of being in and the worst of being out.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
What do you think explains those odds? They don't make sense to me after Lords.TGOHF said:
Free money on Pakistan - England are holed below the waterline. Only risk is fixing.AndyJS said:Headingley Test Match:
England 1.64
Pakistan 4.6
Draw 5.7
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/cricket/market/1.1442716250 -
Not seen it yet. Online anywhere?FrancisUrquhart said:
Why did you make of the al-jareeza investigation that aired the other day?Sandpit said:
Surely distorted by the fact that a lot of people have no interest in betting on any matches involving Pakistan.AndyJS said:Headingley Test Match:
England 1.64
Pakistan 4.6
Draw 5.7
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Not really. Unless one of the groups can capture one of the main parties *and* that party then gets elected (quite difficult if it's perceived as run by zealots and obsessives), or unless they can somehow bring about enough external pressure for them to extract a new vote (because we won't be rejoining without a referendum first), chances are that the Ultras on either side will cancel each other out.williamglenn said:
A Brexit which none of the people who care about the issue accept cannot ever resolve matters. It would just ensure the issue remained open for years longer.david_herdson said:
Actually, a soft Brexit will be fine with 80%+ of the population. it just won't please anyone who really cares about the EU.Elliot said:
Exactly. A soft Brexit pleases no one.SandyRentool said:
Leading question. Who says a compromise is sensible? More likely a fudge between the worst of being in and the worst of being out.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
It’s on their YouTube channel.Sandpit said:
Not seen it yet. Online anywhere?FrancisUrquhart said:
Why did you make of the al-jareeza investigation that aired the other day?Sandpit said:
Surely distorted by the fact that a lot of people have no interest in betting on any matches involving Pakistan.AndyJS said:Headingley Test Match:
England 1.64
Pakistan 4.6
Draw 5.7
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/cricket/market/1.144271625
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19 indictments and counting from the Mueller investigation...TheScreamingEagles said:
But what do you expect from a grifter ?0 -
Was Ramadan last week, didn’t stop England getting pummelled.DecrepitJohnL said:
Ramadan?TGOHF said:
Free money on Pakistan - England are holed below the waterline. Only risk is fixing.AndyJS said:Headingley Test Match:
England 1.64
Pakistan 4.6
Draw 5.7
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/cricket/market/1.1442716250 -
Fenman said:
And Brexycrite Lord Lawson has just announced that he's applying for French residencywilliamglenn said:
A Brexit which none of the people who care about the issue accept cannot ever resolve matters. It would just ensure the issue remained open for years longer.david_herdson said:
Actually, a soft Brexit will be fine with 80%+ of the population. it just won't please anyone who really cares about the EU.Elliot said:
Exactly. A soft Brexit pleases no one.SandyRentool said:
Leading question. Who says a compromise is sensible? More likely a fudge between the worst of being in and the worst of being out.TheScreamingEagles said:
He'll be telling us next that he's put all his money into carbon capture.0 -
https://twitter.com/AlexInAir/status/1002197880612978688TGOHF said:
Until we do our own bespoke deal.TheScreamingEagles said:
No. We’ll still get hit.TGOHF said:
So there will be a boost for Uk metal exporters from next March ?TheScreamingEagles said:Hurrah.
The United States has fired the opening shots in a trade war with three of its traditional allies after imposing tariffs on imported steel and aluminium from the European Union, Canada and Mexico.
Wilbur Ross, Donald Trump’s commerce secretary, said the 25% duty on steel and the 10% duty on aluminium would be imposed from midnight.
In a move that is likely to prompt retaliation from Brussels, Ross said talks with the EU had not shown enough progress for European steel and aluminium producers to continue to be exempted from the tariffs.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/31/us-fires-opening-salvo-in-trade-war-with-eu-canada-and-mexico?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other0 -
Quite frankly you can’t see Lindsay Hoyle, Bercow’s likely replacement, pulling shenanigans like this.
Quite - made a refreshing change when chairing PMQs - prefers the sound of MPs voices to his own.0 -
We'll see. As I said, it depends on what they see in practice, but Montreal is a very low wear track, so it's possible their theoretical best strategy is one stop. Pirelli's intention was to produce a set of options which would make both strategies viable; this might just be the first race where that actually works out.MaxPB said:
One stoping on a track where it's so easy to overtake will be a risk.Nigelb said:
Utterly childish...Sandpit said:
Nah, that wall is for champions, Verstappen won’t be eligible to hit it for a few years yet.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Sandpit, remove the fuel flow limit? But, think of the environment?!?!?!?!&*^%&!!?
I wonder if Verstappen will say hello to the Wall of Champions.
I remember how much I cheered back in 1999 when one M Schumacher binned it on the last chicane and went sliding down the wall Indycar style.
... and I remember doing exactly the same.
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As for strategies, I'm thinking Mercedes one stop, and Ferrari/Red Bull two, which would make things very interesting.
Teams might even split strategies if the alternatives are close enough to each other.
My guess is that Mercedes/Ferrari go H/S/H and RB go H/H/U. I don't think any of the middle runners will pose a threat. Even if Renault bring a decent engine upgrade, they and McLaren are too far behind.
Though I'm not holding my breath...0 -
Given the state of the Headingley pitch....... has the drainage been sorted out yet?AndyJS said:
What do you think explains those odds? They don't make sense to me after Lords.TGOHF said:
Free money on Pakistan - England are holed below the waterline. Only risk is fixing.AndyJS said:Headingley Test Match:
England 1.64
Pakistan 4.6
Draw 5.7
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Shukran.FrancisUrquhart said:
It’s on their YouTube channel.Sandpit said:
Not seen it yet. Online anywhere?FrancisUrquhart said:
Why did you make of the al-jareeza investigation that aired the other day?Sandpit said:
Surely distorted by the fact that a lot of people have no interest in betting on any matches involving Pakistan.AndyJS said:Headingley Test Match:
England 1.64
Pakistan 4.6
Draw 5.7
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/cricket/market/1.144271625
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Mr. B, indeed but worth remembering one race (forget when... 2008?) at Canada had the tyres wearing out really rapidly. It was the reason the idiots in charge decided Pirelli should make crumbly tyres because that Canadian race was really exciting due to all the pit stops.
Except when everybody knows the tyres are crumbly they just drive in the most efficient way possible. So, cars and drivers aren't pushed and there's much less excitement (the exemplar of this being being the last race in Monaco).0 -
It is properly muggy here in Sheffield, so I'd imagine it would be similiar up in Leeds. Could tip it down tommorow or be a wicket festival with what I assume will be very overcast skies.0
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FTSE 100 down 35 points and the Dow off nearly 200 so hardly a "slump".David_Evershed said:The Telegraph is taliking about Euro markets not us free Brexiteers.
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Mr. Pulpstar, fair bit of sun, but very humid and it's starting to cloud over again. (Not actually in Leeds, but quite close).0
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O/t but there’s a discussion on a Guardian website about pronounciation (and life) in Yorkshire and someone, anonymous, has come up with this gem:
'If you meet a vegan from Yorkshire, which do they tell you about first?'0 -
Two postal votes received promptly today in SE Spain - completed and posted for the Tory in Lewisham East. Congratulations to Lewisham council fo their efficiency !0
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Rajoy looking like toast
https://politica.elpais.com/politica/2018/05/31/actualidad/1527743879_094425.html0 -
Win toss and bowl first I would expect.Pulpstar said:It is properly muggy here in Sheffield, so I'd imagine it would be similiar up in Leeds. Could tip it down tommorow or be a wicket festival with what I assume will be very overcast skies.
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Looks like Italy could have a government
www.lastampa.it/2018/05/31/italia/lega-e-ms-trovano-laccordo-su-savona-EBGNJvCBpdffpQALpOH5pI/pagina.html
Lega and 5* propose new finance minister and move anti EU professor to minister for EU0
