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Right goodnight !!0
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???Pulpstar said:Curtice gave a beatdown to Sheffield Labour there lol
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Thanx! And good night.TheWhiteRabbit said:"Party sources say they are expecting to make significant gains but to fall short of the incredibly high expectations set for Labour during the campaign."
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Said they might do badly over the tree issue and perhaps it could change their mindanother_richard said:
???Pulpstar said:Curtice gave a beatdown to Sheffield Labour there lol
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Why are they chopping down thousands of trees?Pulpstar said:
Said they might do badly over the tree issue and perhaps it could change their mindanother_richard said:
???Pulpstar said:Curtice gave a beatdown to Sheffield Labour there lol
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It's a long and sorry tale, basically they've stuffed up on a long term contract with AMEY.Sean_F said:
Why are they chopping down thousands of trees?Pulpstar said:
Said they might do badly over the tree issue and perhaps it could change their mindanother_richard said:
???Pulpstar said:Curtice gave a beatdown to Sheffield Labour there lol
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Corbyn effect - small drop in Lab vote in Sunderland, large jump in Con vote. Too early to tell or Labour might be in more trouble up North?
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Tories getting half of the Kipper vote.nunuone said:0 -
Would be nice to think so - but a bit much to extrapolate that from one ward!dr_spyn said:Corbyn effect - small drop in Lab vote in Sunderland, large jump in Con vote. Too early to tell or Labour might be in more trouble up North?
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Well, it’s not as if there’s a deadline that all this stuff has to be passed by, is it?Foxy said:0 -
Interesting QT0
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I expect so too.david_herdson said:
In local byelections there is a lot of similar churn, often with a net shift UKIP to LDs0 -
You are quite right re it being too early to tell.oxfordsimon said:
Would be nice to think so - but a bit much to extrapolate that from one ward!dr_spyn said:Corbyn effect - small drop in Lab vote in Sunderland, large jump in Con vote. Too early to tell or Labour might be in more trouble up North?
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That's a higher Conservative vote than they managed in 2004 to 2008.nunuone said:
I wonder if there are local factors involved ?0 -
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Shiney Row (Sunderland)
Lab: 54.4% (+2.2)
Con: 23.7% (+8.7)
Ind: 13.2% (+13.2)
Grn: 4.7% (+4.7)
LDem: 4.1% (+0.8)
UKIP (-29.4)0 -
That UKIP vote looks to be going the Tories way pretty significantly.0
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Not looking to be a good night for the kippers!nunuone said:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/992165696414068736
first Tory GAIN!0 -
It is more surprising that nearly 20% of the electorate is voting for a dead party in that wardnunuone said:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/992165696414068736
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I always thought it did so in the General but it was rather swamped by the general Labour upswing.The_Apocalypse said:That UKIP vote looks to be going the Tories way pretty significantly.
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They will be brought back to life when people realise it's going to be BINO.oxfordsimon said:
It is more surprising that nearly 20% of the electorate is voting for a dead party in that wardnunuone said:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/992165696414068736
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Yet another PFI Ponzi scheme the council is set to pay for 30+ years and it's going to cost them big-time to get out of it.We should be planting millions of trees,not cutting them down.What Sheffield council are doing defies logic.I was in Sheffield when they introduced the tram,another massive cock-up which led to the LDs taking Sheffield from Labour.I suspect the Greens rather than the LDs will be the main beneficiaries of this embarassment for local government.Sean_F said:
Why are they chopping down thousands of trees?Pulpstar said:
Said they might do badly over the tree issue and perhaps it could change their mindanother_richard said:
???Pulpstar said:Curtice gave a beatdown to Sheffield Labour there lol
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Or Brexit factorsanother_richard said:
That's a higher Conservative vote than they managed in 2004 to 2008.nunuone said:
I wonder if there are local factors involved ?0 -
Labour are in big doo doo outside London....People are afraid of Corbyn.0
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Not without a leader with some presence and media skills. Farage isn't coming back.nunuone said:
They will be brought back to life when people realise it's going to be BINO.oxfordsimon said:
It is more surprising that nearly 20% of the electorate is voting for a dead party in that wardnunuone said:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/992165696414068736
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Hold really isn't it ?nunuone said:
Since won in By-election.
Lib Dem councillors tend to work bloody hard once they're in, and Labour regard places as their birthright.0 -
Didn't they win that ward in a by-election recently (from a starting base of about 4%)?nunuone said:0 -
Where else could the NOTA vote go ?oxfordsimon said:
It is more surprising that nearly 20% of the electorate is voting for a dead party in that wardnunuone said:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/992165696414068736
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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/959204791758049280david_herdson said:
Didn't they win that ward in a by-election recently (from a starting base of about 4%)?nunuone said:0 -
yes.david_herdson said:
Didn't they win that ward in a by-election recently (from a starting base of about 4%)?nunuone said:0 -
UKIPocalypse?0
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Labour hold Chorley South East and Chorley East.
Recount in Astley & Buckshaw (Chorley) where Labour won by 10 points over Con in 20140 -
That is some turn aroundwilliamglenn said:
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/959204791758049280david_herdson said:
Didn't they win that ward in a by-election recently (from a starting base of about 4%)?nunuone said:0 -
Just Can't Get Enough!nunuone said:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/992165696414068736
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LD gain Pallion in Sunderland from Labour0
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Labour hold Doxford and Hetton in Sunderland. Con close in Doxford0
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Fryerns (Basildon) result:
Lab: 48.6% (+13.5)
Con: 33.7% (+15.8)
UKIP: 17.7% (-25.2)
Labour GAIN from UKIP.
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Lab gain one from UKIP in Basildon.0
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On Question Time. The comic on the panel had a massive go at him for being anti working class or somethinganother_richard said:
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I didn’t think we’d be getting results this early.0
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I'm more confident that Richmond will be Yellow than Sutton.Barnesian said:
I'm fairly confident that Richmond is a LibDem gain. Kingston will be a Libdem gain and Sutton a LibDem hold. The swings could be surprising. No betting opportunity on Betfair.nunuone said:
that is the opposite of the earlier anecdotes....TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
That was the February result. The Lib Dems did even better today.Floater said:
That is some turn aroundwilliamglenn said:
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/959204791758049280david_herdson said:
Didn't they win that ward in a by-election recently (from a starting base of about 4%)?nunuone said:
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/9921675149930536980 -
Its a bit slower than some GEs.The_Apocalypse said:I didn’t think we’d be getting results this early.
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Shouldn’t take that long to count a few thousand votes.The_Apocalypse said:I didn’t think we’d be getting results this early.
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That's a huge swing to the Tories in Doxford, Sunderland.
Edit: And in Bede, Nuneaton.0 -
Please could someone mention that to the Returning Officer in Wakefield.tlg86 said:
Shouldn’t take that long to count a few thousand votes.The_Apocalypse said:I didn’t think we’d be getting results this early.
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Yeah buttlg86 said:
Shouldn’t take that long to count a few thousand votes.The_Apocalypse said:I didn’t think we’d be getting results this early.
The GE doesn't have 3 member wards.
Not everyone votes LD LD LD or LAB LAB LAB0 -
Con gain Barnes (Sunderland) from Labour:
Con 1560
Lab 1238
First ward in Nuneaton for Labour is a hold but with a awful result0 -
No UKIP.Sean_F said:That's a huge swing to the Tories in Doxford, Sunderland.
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/9921693948255068160 -
There's an even bigger one in Bede.Sean_F said:That's a huge swing to the Tories in Doxford, Sunderland.
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Really? in Sutton the LDs had 43 of 53 seats. Hard to see losing 17 of them.rcs1000 said:
I'm more confident that Richmond will be Yellow than Sutton.Barnesian said:
I'm fairly confident that Richmond is a LibDem gain. Kingston will be a Libdem gain and Sutton a LibDem hold. The swings could be surprising. No betting opportunity on Betfair.nunuone said:
that is the opposite of the earlier anecdotes....TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
A bloodbath for Labour tonight?
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Pipped to the post in both! Gutting.Rhubarb said:
There's an even bigger one in Bede.Sean_F said:That's a huge swing to the Tories in Doxford, Sunderland.
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/992169982527143937
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Oh dear. I’m sure at some point the youngsters will vote with their feet. It is difficult if you put down roots in an area. Perhaps what will happen is the current university students will see what’s happening and avoid London from the off. But the bright lights really are a pull factor and most people aren’t as hard nosed as we are on here.Pulpstar said:
On Question Time. The comic on the panel had a massive go at him for being anti working class or somethinganother_richard said:
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Not that you should read anything from it, but that's quite a swing.williamglenn said:
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/959204791758049280david_herdson said:
Didn't they win that ward in a by-election recently (from a starting base of about 4%)?nunuone said:0 -
So, my expectations for tonight are Labour gains in London being cancelled out by losses from the other 50 million people.0
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Toppo reported a No.10 text. It was far from a prediction.another_richard said:
Has Toppo used his inside info to predict a Conservative majority of 40-70 so causing DavidL to open the champagne ?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Obviously I appreciate not everyone is going to want to live in Bassetlaw like me but Manchester is a genuinely good compromise of economy & house prices right now.tlg86 said:
Oh dear. I’m sure at some point the youngsters will vote with their feet. It is difficult if you put down roots in an area. Perhaps what will happen is the current university students will see what’s happening and avoid London from the off. But the bright lights really are a pull factor and most people aren’t as hard nosed as we are on here.Pulpstar said:
On Question Time. The comic on the panel had a massive go at him for being anti working class or somethinganother_richard said:
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The Londoners are coming! The Londoners are coming!dixiedean said:0 -
IIRC Labour did badly in Leave areas last year as well.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Labour hold Hendon and Houghton in Sunderland
St Chad's should be a Con gain (but unsurprisingly at this point as they already held in the past)0 -
Shame Bassetlaw didn't vote tonight, Labour could have lost it !0
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In reality, the bright lights involve working round the clock in order to live in some crummy rental place and not have much left over at the end of the month. Or, if you have parents in London, live at home. Other cities provide a better lifestyle and the hope of a realistic independence.tlg86 said:
Oh dear. I’m sure at some point the youngsters will vote with their feet. It is difficult if you put down roots in an area. Perhaps what will happen is the current university students will see what’s happening and avoid London from the off. But the bright lights really are a pull factor and most people aren’t as hard nosed as we are on here.Pulpstar said:
On Question Time. The comic on the panel had a massive go at him for being anti working class or somethinganother_richard said:
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Barnes is one of the more middle class parts of Sunderland but Labour won it by 10% in 2016.nunuone said:A bloodbath for Labour tonight?
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I don’t think you can beat the East Midlands for value, but I’m biased by my mum being from Bolsover.Pulpstar said:
Obviously I appreciate not everyone is going to want to live in Bassetlaw like me but Manchester is a genuinely good compromise of economy & house prices right now.tlg86 said:
Oh dear. I’m sure at some point the youngsters will vote with their feet. It is difficult if you put down roots in an area. Perhaps what will happen is the current university students will see what’s happening and avoid London from the off. But the bright lights really are a pull factor and most people aren’t as hard nosed as we are on here.Pulpstar said:
On Question Time. The comic on the panel had a massive go at him for being anti working class or somethinganother_richard said:
23:10 in.0 -
Leicester is great value too, and only an hour from the Smoke if you really want to go there, quicker than many London commutes.Pulpstar said:
Obviously I appreciate not everyone is going to want to live in a tiny village in the middle of nowhere but Manchester is a genuinely good compromise of economy & house prices right now.tlg86 said:
Oh dear. I’m sure at some point the youngsters will vote with their feet. It is difficult if you put down roots in an area. Perhaps what will happen is the current university students will see what’s happening and avoid London from the off. But the bright lights really are a pull factor and most people aren’t as hard nosed as we are on here.Pulpstar said:
On Question Time. The comic on the panel had a massive go at him for being anti working class or somethinganother_richard said:
23:10 in.0 -
It really does mystify me why more 20-somethings don't move to Liverpool or Manchester than London. London is great, but Liverpool and Manchester (among others) have a lot of things to live if you like the big city - and quality of life is so much higher.Pulpstar said:
Obviously I appreciate not everyone is going to want to live in Bassetlaw like me but Manchester is a genuinely good compromise of economy & house prices right now.tlg86 said:
Oh dear. I’m sure at some point the youngsters will vote with their feet. It is difficult if you put down roots in an area. Perhaps what will happen is the current university students will see what’s happening and avoid London from the off. But the bright lights really are a pull factor and most people aren’t as hard nosed as we are on here.Pulpstar said:
On Question Time. The comic on the panel had a massive go at him for being anti working class or somethinganother_richard said:
23:10 in.0 -
Its possible that Sunderland's Labour council is not viewed well - if so it might make the results there somewhat non-typical.0
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Is JohnO standing again this year? I think his council is up (although maybe not his ward).0
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But only if the Bassetlaw Conservatives had remember to put up a full slate of candidates.Pulpstar said:Shame Bassetlaw didn't vote tonight, Labour could have lost it !
Anyway John Mann Labour might be viewed a bit differently to Corbyn Labour in Bassetlaw 0 -
Most of those other 50 million aren't voting are they? (Though the seats outside London still outnumber those from the capital - and the disparity in voters is even bigger given that London's elections are all-out, unlike most elsewhere).Chameleon said:So, my expectations for tonight are Labour gains in London being cancelled out by losses from the other 50 million people.
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They aren't...another_richard said:Its possible that Sunderland's Labour council is not viewed well - if so it might make the results there somewhat non-typical.
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Decent QT from Martin Lewis there.0
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Yebbut as @MaxPB has shown, working hard in London, moreso than any other UK city, can get you very tangible benefits indeed.Cyclefree said:
In reality, the bright lights involve working round the clock in order to live in some crummy rental place and not have much left over at the end of the month. Or, if you have parents in London, live at home. Other cities provide a better lifestyle and the hope of a realistic independence.tlg86 said:
Oh dear. I’m sure at some point the youngsters will vote with their feet. It is difficult if you put down roots in an area. Perhaps what will happen is the current university students will see what’s happening and avoid London from the off. But the bright lights really are a pull factor and most people aren’t as hard nosed as we are on here.Pulpstar said:
On Question Time. The comic on the panel had a massive go at him for being anti working class or somethinganother_richard said:
23:10 in.0 -
For a professional, most provincial cities offer a better standard of life than London.Cyclefree said:
In reality, the bright lights involve working round the clock in order to live in some crummy rental place and not have much left over at the end of the month. Or, if you have parents in London, live at home. Other cities provide a better lifestyle and the hope of a realistic independence.tlg86 said:
Oh dear. I’m sure at some point the youngsters will vote with their feet. It is difficult if you put down roots in an area. Perhaps what will happen is the current university students will see what’s happening and avoid London from the off. But the bright lights really are a pull factor and most people aren’t as hard nosed as we are on here.Pulpstar said:
On Question Time. The comic on the panel had a massive go at him for being anti working class or somethinganother_richard said:
23:10 in.0 -
Curtice (BBC website) saying that we might have signs from these early results that Labour aren’t going to perform that strongly in heavy Leave places. Will be interesting to see if there is a Leave/Remain divide in the results.0
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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/992173417943240704
The worrying thing here for Labour isn't the ukip vote going wholesale to Tory but the 7% fall in their own vote.0
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