volcanopete said:

I see Emily Thornberry is subbing for JC at PMQs today.Anyone who took the 28-1-currently into 16-1-in the next Labour leader contest will be interested in what sort of form she's in as to whether they arb out and take a profit-no sin in my eyes-but for those in for the long-term it is encouraging Mr Corbyn sees her as a no 2.Anyone looking for an "if JC falls under a bus"candidate, perhaps whilst riding his bike,she is also available at 50-1 at Corals in the next PM betting.
Those on Damian Green,as advised by this site,is currently best-priced at 28-1 with WH for next PM, and best -priced at Betway at 25-1 for next Con leader- which still looks good value to me-will be looking at his performance in the blue camp,bearing in mind the abject paucity of apparent leadership qualities in the Tory party,a choice of evils if ever there was one.25-1 is too big.

currystar said:

eek said:

currystar said:

Its probably slightly higher, an Electrician now for a standard week is earning around £45,000 per year without overtime or any private jobs on a weekend. This reflects just how incredibly buoyant the economy is and its why the nonsense wriiten on here about the Tories economic incompetence grates so much. Does anyone really think if JC got into power and implemented his crazy policies that unemployment would fall and wages will rise?

I'm starting to believe we have a very 2 tier economy - a lot of people on minimum wage up to £16k a year, the rest on £40k plus a year and nothing in between...

We advertised a office admin job for £16k to £24k per annum, not a lot of skills required, just basic Microsoft Office experience. We had no applications.

Beverley_C said:

CornishJohn said:

Beverley_C said:

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/dannyctkemp/status/885081087357190147

It is true though. Fantasy and postures are not policies - a lesson Boris, Davies, Fox, et al need to learn and very quickly.

As Katya Adler notes in her last article, "the Europeans want a deal with the UK" and "need a deal". Both sides mention they won't do one at any price, but there is a deal to be had. It also mentions it will be tailor made, as May initially wanted.

The question is how Remainers react when the deal they said couldn't be done (an expansive, unique trade deal that controls immigration for a much lower fee) is done.

Speaking purely for myself, I would love to see a successful Brexit deal. I do not want the UK to Brexit, but if Brexit happens I would far, far rather that is was as minimally damaging to the UK as possible.

In spite of the accusations levelled at me by the more vituperative Leavers on here, I do not want the UK to become a failed state or a damaged economy, nor do I wish it ill.

A good outcome would be wonderful, I just do not see how we get it whilst our politicians play at politics instead of doing politics.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Greene just demolished labour on tuition fees

TheScreamingEagles said:

Even the Tory party has come to the same conclusion as I have, though I think Maybots on here will keep on defending her like a Japanese soldier in the jungle fighting WW2 in the 1970s

https://twitter.com/joncstone/status/885100076196126720

Big_G_NorthWales said:

DecrepitJohnL said:

woody662 said:

Are there any odds on David Gauke for next Tory leader, potential Major type figure to sneak up on the rails.

John Major held two of the great offices of state -- Chancellor and Foreign Secretary -- so was not really a dark horse. Theresa May is too weak to reshuffle the Cabinet or even the junior ministers so the runners and riders are probably known.

After today's PMQs, perhaps Damian Green is hiding in plain sight as Deputy PM.

Very impressed with him today but unlikely to stand for leader

CarlottaVance said:

Green just pointed out that Euratom status does not affect import of medical isotopes and cancer patients have been needlessly worried by scaremongering....

JosiasJessop said:

Dura_Ace said:

RoyalBlue said:

Scott_P said:

FFS

@SophyRidgeSky: Important clarification https://twitter.com/natashac/status/885069102984953856

I wonder how often Sophy Ridge has been inside a tower block for anything other than professional reasons?

Pathetic.

Is this some new test of worthiness? Whether one has been in a tower block or not? I never have and hope never to. I assume they are squalid rookeries of glue sniffing leavers.

I've lived in two tower blocks. In the first yer of Uni I was near the top of a uni residential block in South Woodford (floor 9 from memory), and a few years later I stayed in a room in Skenfrith House off the Old Kent Road.

The latter was possibly an indication of the problem. the owners had recently renovated the flat and it was very nice internally; however you stepped outside into a lift that frequently stank of worriesome bodiy fluids, and the communal area at the bottom was also often unpleasant.

It doesn't matter how much you spend on your flat if one or two families, or even individuals, make the communal areas unpleasant.

CornishJohn said:

Nigelb said:

Alice_Aforethought said:

Roger said:

edmundintokyo said:

rcs1000 said:

Yesterday, there was a discussion about what might halt Brexit. I see three things that could delay it, potentially indefinitely. In ascending order of probability:

...

There is some overlap between 2 and 3, so I estimate the probability that the UK does not exit in April 2019 (or shortly thereafter) is between 15 and 20%.

Since we're talking delaying not just halting, I think there's also a non-trivial probability that both sides will realise they genuinely need more time to work out the details. I mean, everybody knows the deadline is too tight, no?

I know it needs unaninimity on the EU side and they've been firm on this to date, but it's unusual for the EU to see a can and not kick it.

Macron making concerted effort to get the £70 billion financial services business from London in a speech yesterday. As someone from the financial services industry he believes Paris are in an ideal position.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_fourfm

In his dreams.

Quite.

They're all going to Dublin, Frankfurt and Luxembourg...
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/may/03/jp-morgan-jobs-uk-brexit-dublin-frankfurt-luxembourg

There are 2.2 million financial and related services jobs in the UK. Your article suggests a few hundred are being considered. I'm not sure that quite adds up to either the "all" or the "going" in your conclusion.

foxinsoxuk said:

Ishmael_Z said:

The pope is Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the State of Vatican City, Servant of the Servants of God.

Surely Whore of Babylon and Antichrist too?

As the DUP might say...

JosiasJessop said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Even the Tory party has come to the same conclusion as I have, though I think Maybots on here will keep on defending her like a Japanese soldier in the jungle fighting WW2 in the 1970s

https://twitter.com/joncstone/status/885100076196126720

I wonder if an intern discovered that for him?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/571824/Labour-MP-pays-interns-four-pound-day

FF43 said:

CarlottaVance said:

Green just pointed out that Euratom status does not affect import of medical isotopes and cancer patients have been needlessly worried by scaremongering....

My understanding is that medical isotopes are produced in three plants in France, Belgium and the Netherlands. There was a shortage of these isotopes, which have a shelf life of only a few hours, in 2008-2010. Euratom was given the job of managing the supply to demand.

The issue therefore isn't that we wouldn't have access to medical isotopes if we were out of Euratom. It's that we wouldn't have equal consideration of needs. Euratom members will be serviced first and anything left over would be released to us.

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/brexit-explained/euratom

TheScreamingEagles said:

Even the Tory party has come to the same conclusion as I have, though I think Maybots on here will keep on defending her like a Japanese soldier in the jungle fighting WW2 in the 1970s

https://twitter.com/joncstone/status/885100076196126720

GeoffM said:

RobD said:

Scott_P said:

twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/885099507591118848

Perhaps he is planning on saying he will respect the Treaty of Utrecht.

We don't want him to do that! Well, not the bit about no Jews allowed to live inside the City walls. I'd like that bit quietly forgotten about; ta all the same.

He's just got to respect the other bits!

Hmmm. And the bit that specifies the value of slaves. He can gloss over that part too.

IanB2 said:

JosiasJessop said:

Dura_Ace said:

RoyalBlue said:

Scott_P said:

FFS

@SophyRidgeSky: Important clarification https://twitter.com/natashac/status/885069102984953856

I wonder how often Sophy Ridge has been inside a tower block for anything other than professional reasons?

Pathetic.

Is this some new test of worthiness? Whether one has been in a tower block or not? I never have and hope never to. I assume they are squalid rookeries of glue sniffing leavers.

I've lived in two tower blocks. In the first yer of Uni I was near the top of a uni residential block in South Woodford (floor 9 from memory), and a few years later I stayed in a room in Skenfrith House off the Old Kent Road.

The latter was possibly an indication of the problem. the owners had recently renovated the flat and it was very nice internally; however you stepped outside into a lift that frequently stank of worriesome bodiy fluids, and the communal area at the bottom was also often unpleasant.

It doesn't matter how much you spend on your flat if one or two families, or even individuals, make the communal areas unpleasant.

The former were all demolished some years back.

You are right that the biggest problem with high rise living is that, without employing someone living on site to be responsible, the communal areas are difficult to look after.

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Ah, greetings, Comrades!

The Glorious 12th

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Prokhorovka

CarlottaVance said:

One MP close to the leadership confessed to me: “If there was another election this year I’d only be confident of winning three seats – Ian Blackford’s in Skye and two in Dundee. We could be looking at Dundee becoming a sort of nationalist Hong Kong.”

Another admits that that the result in June could’ve been worse. “If the election had taken place on the Friday rather than the Thursday, I’d have lost my seat. It was one-way traffic to Labour.”

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2017/07/snp-mps-fear-another-snap-election-it-was-one-way-traffic-labour

isam said:

Seems to be an element of a cover up in the Tamim Iqbal case. The incident didn't take place in Essex anyway

"Bangladesh batsman Tamim Iqbal and Essex have determinedly played down the reasons for his abruptly abandoning a stint with the county, after allegations emerged that his wife was the victim of a racially-motivated incident in Stratford in east London.

Tamim's family was uneasy about the environment in London even before his arrival in England. Essex put his family up in a luxury apartment in Stratford at his own request - some 35 miles from their Chelmsford headquarters - after agreeing to an eight-match deal."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/story/1110632.html?CMP=OTC-RSS&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

DavidL said:

What did the silly bat think he would do? Just idiotic. I don't know how long the Tory party can put up with this level of incompetence.

Richard_Nabavi said:

CarlottaVance said:

One MP close to the leadership confessed to me: “If there was another election this year I’d only be confident of winning three seats – Ian Blackford’s in Skye and two in Dundee. We could be looking at Dundee becoming a sort of nationalist Hong Kong.”

That suggests that they ain't gonna be in any hurry to join Labour in any Westminster vote which might bring down the government. The situation may be more stable than it looks.

Richard_Nabavi said:

CarlottaVance said:

One MP close to the leadership confessed to me: “If there was another election this year I’d only be confident of winning three seats – Ian Blackford’s in Skye and two in Dundee. We could be looking at Dundee becoming a sort of nationalist Hong Kong.”

That suggests that they ain't gonna be in any hurry to join Labour in any Westminster vote which might bring down the government. The situation may be more stable than it looks.

DecrepitJohnL said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Ah, greetings, Comrades!

The Glorious 12th

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Prokhorovka

Thanks to the Cambridge-educated boffins at Bletchley Park, we could tell the Russians where the German tanks were (possibly with some help from equally well-educated Russian spies).

Alanbrooke said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Mortimer said:

DavidL said:

What did the silly bat think he would do? Just idiotic. I don't know how long the Tory party can put up with this level of incompetence.

Well we put up with Cameron putting off 1/4 of our base vote for 11 years....

Which is why the Tory vote and the number of Tory MPs went down at every general election whilst Dave was leader.

Oh wait, it didn't, both went up on his watch unlike on Mrs May's watch.

his election record is one score draw and an own goal

IanB2 said:

You are right that the biggest problem with high rise living is that, without employing someone living on site to be responsible, the communal areas are difficult to look after.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Alanbrooke said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Mortimer said:

DavidL said:

What did the silly bat think he would do? Just idiotic. I don't know how long the Tory party can put up with this level of incompetence.

Well we put up with Cameron putting off 1/4 of our base vote for 11 years....

Which is why the Tory vote and the number of Tory MPs went down at every general election whilst Dave was leader.

Oh wait, it didn't, both went up on his watch unlike on Mrs May's watch.

his election record is one score draw and an own goal

Only Tory to have won a majority in the last 25 years.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

619 said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Sandpit said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

CarlottaVance said:

One MP close to the leadership confessed to me: “If there was another election this year I’d only be confident of winning three seats – Ian Blackford’s in Skye and two in Dundee. We could be looking at Dundee becoming a sort of nationalist Hong Kong.”

That suggests that they ain't gonna be in any hurry to join Labour in any Westminster vote which might bring down the government. The situation may be more stable than it looks.

That's a good point. If the SNP could be relied on to abstain a confidence vote then that gives the government a buffer. Not sure any Tories would trust the SNP to give them the time though.

The Conservatives can treat the SNP as reliable enemies for now. While the SNP's current MPs look so vulnerable to a pincer movement between Labour and the Conservatives, they're going to work very hard to avoid bringing forward an election.

AlastairMeeks said:

Sandpit said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

CarlottaVance said:

One MP close to the leadership confessed to me: “If there was another election this year I’d only be confident of winning three seats – Ian Blackford’s in Skye and two in Dundee. We could be looking at Dundee becoming a sort of nationalist Hong Kong.”

That suggests that they ain't gonna be in any hurry to join Labour in any Westminster vote which might bring down the government. The situation may be more stable than it looks.

That's a good point. If the SNP could be relied on to abstain a confidence vote then that gives the government a buffer. Not sure any Tories would trust the SNP to give them the time though.

The Conservatives can treat the SNP as reliable enemies for now. While the SNP's current MPs look so vulnerable to a pincer movement between Labour and the Conservatives, they're going to work very hard to avoid bringing forward an election.

Yeah, but then they would be slaughtered by their own followers if they look like they are keeping a Troy govt in power to save their own skins.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Mortimer said:

DavidL said:

What did the silly bat think he would do? Just idiotic. I don't know how long the Tory party can put up with this level of incompetence.

Well we put up with Cameron putting off 1/4 of our base vote for 11 years....

Which is why the Tory vote and the number of Tory MPs went down at every general election whilst Dave was leader.

Oh wait, it didn't, both went up on his watch unlike on Mrs May's watch.