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I'd be even more impressed if they nailed Paranoid Android.
Its more to do with numbers than intracacies of the religion. I said many times, once you get to 5-6% of the insurgent religion, trouble is inevitable. Looks like we are there
2001 2011
Christian 71.58% 59.49%
Muslim 2.71% 4.41%
Hindu 0.95% 1.32%
Sikh 0.57% 0.43%
Buddhist 0.26% 0.41%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_Kingdom#Religion
Same pattern across Europe. Look at the 5-10% countries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe
https://twitter.com/evanmcmurry/status/871358001541595137
On the other hand, the old script of "we'd like more police, we'd like to give our existing fantastic officers the best equipment and support but Labour spent all the money and we're still fixing it" worked pretty well. Why did Team May abandon that line?
I can only judge on the reports we get on the background of these terrorists and my experience from spending far too long on university campuses, that there is an issue and it isn't simply the kidz in the hood with no prospects.
I didn't understand her massive approval ratings (and said so at the time), but I don't understand Corbyn's massive rise either. They are both shit in my eyes, just one is shit and the other is shit and dangerous.
https://order-order.com/2017/06/04/alastair-campbell-compares-brexiters-jihadists/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4569478/Leading-Corbyn-activist-terrorists-freedom-fighters.html
At least people like Southam can see the mess that Labour are in.
Others on here, sadly not.
Being hung from a crane if you are gay or a drug dealer for starters.
I think May's statement this morning though promising to tackle extremism head on struck the right tone
"In understanding this matter, the beginning of wisdom is to grasp the law that in human societies power is never left unclaimed and unused. It does not blow about, like wastepaper on the streets, ownerless and inert. Men’s nature is not only, as Thucydides long ago asserted, to exert power where they have it; men cannot help themselves from exerting power where they have it, whether they want to or not. "
The secularists thought ceding Christianity's alpha male position would lead to power sharing... BIG mistake.
Same would apply if Islam was the Alpha male and Christianity started growing. That's why Islamic Republics don't allow it.
He'd be an utter **** without any tweets.
http://www.christiansinparliament.org.uk/uploads/APPGs-report-on-Persecution-of-Christians-in-Iran.pdf
You do seem to have an irrational - some might say faith based - attachment to the sayings of the prophet Enoch....
Jezza - Exit (Poll) Stage (Extreme) Left
I would say that India still seems to have 80% Hindu as top dog, there was big tension before the country was partitioned (Enoch Powell's whole view on immigration was formed by the way Hindus, Sikhs and Muslims acted in p[re Partioned India)
Secondly, maybe the tension isn't so bad when people are worshipping the same God. Maybe its the God rather than the religion that is the alpha male
Another big factor is the length of time the religions have co existed, and how quickly the insurgent is rising. Islam in Western Europe is too much too soon
"and the stakes of personal decisions remain high. In 2004, despite nationwide attention to the public execution of a seventeen-year-old girl suspected of having premarital sex, "
Last week she said 'Brexit will make us MORE prosperous' forgetting that before the referendum she said it would make us LESS prosperous.
Even with his Paul Smith suits Corbyn is looking more authentic by the day
Christianity was the alpha male across Europe. Secularism ate away at it and now, wherever there are 5-10% muslims...
Austria · Belgium . Bulgaria · France ·German · Netherlands · Sweden · Switzerland
AGGRO!
Where there are no muslims...
Armenia · Belarus · Czech Republic · Estonia · Finland · Hungary · Iceland · Latvia · Lithuania · Malta · Moldova · Monaco · Poland · Portugal · Romania · San Marino · Slovakia · Ukraine
NO AGGRO!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe
Many people say it is something about Muslims, I don't. It is something about the friction between big numbers of people with different faith
Mr. W, you tinker.
Mr. Malmesbury, nah, he's just a Wibbling Muddle-headed Dipstick.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4570634/Woman-begs-loved-one-hold-terror-attack.html
(Graphic content)
"The unnamed woman said: 'Stay with me, please, I love you. Don't let those f****** get away with it. Come on, please', as a paramedic and police office gave him CPR on London Bridge. "
https://twitter.com/standardnews/status/667702715158429696
If you want to look for one of the root causes of this problem look to yourself Roger.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence#Myanmar
Enlightenment and secular democracy are necessary for the long term survival of civilisation in a globalised world where nuclear weapons exist. Shutting off oneself from the problem is no solution.
If Islam had started around the time of Maurice and Chosroes being rather chummy (just a few years earlier), history could have been very, very different.
However I bet no losing labour MP will have any campaign leaflets with Jezza on the leaflet which will give him an excuse for staying on ~ they might have won if they had campaigned with me rather than running a different campaign to the one ran nationally.
Too me so long to post a response that a whole new thread had appeared...
Yes because CT resources haven't been cut to any great note plus SS resources for CT have risen over years. The only way numbers matters is if you prefer a similar approach to NI where they parked themselves in the the middle of difficult areas in a big fat building, patrolled relentlessly, did road checks, and generally disrupted lives. Bluntly the people of England perhaps aren't up for it and, maybe this is harsh but the level of the threat in terms of frequency maybe doesn't warrant it. Anyway the apparently lost 20 000 simply wouldn't be near enough to adopt it to the greatest extent. Most losses probably weren't in the areas where its most needed either.
Ask most cops in England do they want to be armed and, by a fair majority if I recall correctly, they say no. Thats an error. The ability to shoot quickly and well matters. In threat terms the situation back at home is less from Republicans than from Islamic Extremists on the mainland (though by many measures of threat assessment not by much) but we arm everyone with proper gear and train them
Tactically the individuals picked a crap target for longevity of attack but PR wise its sound. Its near to considerable police resources of which a high proportion are armed. They failed to create siege situation they looked to be aiming for as well to drag out the attack.
Whilst the concept of low level intelligence in areas via patrolling does have a point, there is a political fear of how thats going to look if they are seen to be bearing down with resources where Muslims congregate. Visible gathering via uniformed officers requires you to stop people, question, take details and frankly be a pain in the arse every single day. No matter how many badges you have, the will isn't there to deploy. If you take the SS figures as gospel (PR aside), you are talking tens of thousands of people of interest. Most, beyond your Internet only jihadis, will be within fairly well defined geographical zones but there is no will to sit on them via routine boring policing.
As much as people don't comprehend or maybe want to, CT efforts against the Islamic extremists is still in V2.0 of its existence not V3 or 4, and it does have, but also lacks some depth in both low and high value informants. It has technical capabilities to burn.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-attended-sinn-f-in-fundraiser-months-before-ira-attacked-london-a6767601.html
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Since it is not a British "value" to allow terrorists to influence an election, I would have liked to have seen a joint statement by leaders from all of the main parties. Which are the "two parties" that she refers to? I thought the only party which has NOT suspended campaigning was UKIP. (Haven't checked Plaid.)
"Many people say it is something about Muslims, I don't. It is something about the friction between big numbers of people with different faith"
So, although our problem is with Muslims, its not because they are muslims as such
The differences between the New Testament and Kaoran are huge, particularly in relation to violence, and forming a state. Indeed Christianity had been around for several hundred years before Christians decided that war could sometimes be justified, and before it became state religion anywhere (Armenia beat Rome to it). Islam was born in violent conflict and as a conquering state from the beginning.
Oh for a version of monotheism that doesn't lionise one particular human above all others and doesn't hold that any ethnic group was or is the chosen people. This is a very strange planet.
Have you not read the Sermon on the Mount ?
Panelbase Scotland poll for the Times has:
SNP: 42%
Con: 30%
Lab 20%
LD: 5%
Would mean Tories picking up 9 more seats."
What concrete steps to deal with extremism do you feel the government failed to take because of people shouting "racism" rather than for reasons of maintaining civil liberties that we value as a society, or because they were incompatible with cutting spending? I'm not clear what May means to do as a result of claiming "enough is enough".
Just as well.
The "depleted" Met police neutralised 3 dangerous suspects in 8 minutes.
The "expanded" Police Scotland left someone to die at the side of the road for 3 days.
Until those numbers are reversed, a period of silence from the Zoomers on what a brilliant job Nicola is doing would be welcome.
Although it would unite the people...
Deal with people according to their actions, but once you start telling people what they can and can't believe, you're allying yourself with Hitler, Stalin and all the other totalitarians in history.
Islam had its version of that sectarian conflict shortly after its founding, and it's still ongoing. And its secular state - Turkey - is reverting.