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    RobinWiggsRobinWiggs Posts: 621
    LAB gain Llanfynydd ward from CON on Flintshire County Council.

    This is a shock (and my home ward). Tories have held the seat for last three elections. It is also the home ward for the sitting LAB MP in Alyn and Deeside - a target seat.
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    Arthur_PennyArthur_Penny Posts: 198
    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Is Blyth Valley white working class ?

    On the Tories there at 4-1...
    Blyth Valley in Northumberland ?
    Ye, looked very kippery.... prefferred it to Sedgefield or Hartlepool which were both very short.
    Incumbent been there since 1987 -traditional Labour, went down t'pit at 14. I think he will hold on better than the PPE kids.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,053
    Pong said:

    Le Pen is edging in a little on betfair.

    Macron 1.12/3
    Le Pen 9.2/6

    God only knows why
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    felixfelix Posts: 15,125
    Britain Elects Retweeted
    Patrick English‏ @PME_Politics 55s55 seconds ago

    The Lib Dem fightback in Somerset is not going to plan - they've just lost 4 seats to the Conservatives. Highlights huge challenge they face
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,334
    Tories gain 4 seats from the LDs in Somerset
    https://twitter.com/PME_Politics/status/860289063403868160
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    TudorRoseTudorRose Posts: 1,662
    LibDems have lost 4 seats to the Tories in Somerset... so far!
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2017
    "Patrick English‏ @PME_Politics

    The Lib Dem fightback in Somerset is not going to plan - they've just lost 4 seats to the Conservatives. Highlights huge challenge they face"

    https://twitter.com/PME_Politics/status/860289063403868160?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=http://vote-2012.proboards.com/posts/recent
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,975
    Rhubarb said:

    NeilVW said:

    Labour's national election co-ordinator fronting up on Sky News. What did he do to deserve to get that job? :smile:

    Probably "OK, if nobody else will, I'll do it...."
    Every large organisation needs someone who can be trotted out to resign on demand; this is just an extended seven week interview.
    I always liked the PG Woodhouse anecdote of the workings of a large American department store in the 20s. When a customer was really upset, and demanded to see the management etc, the manager would haul in the guilty party and fire them, in front of the customer. After the customer had left, the randomly picked clerk from the office would be given a small financial bonus and sent back to his work....
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,036
    Four more CON seats in Essex and we'll have a CON HOLD!
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,960
    AndyJS said:

    "Patrick English‏ @PME_Politics

    The Lib Dem fightback in Somerset is not going to plan - they've just lost 4 seats to the Conservatives. Highlights huge challenge they face"

    https://twitter.com/PME_Politics/status/860289063403868160?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=http://vote-2012.proboards.com/posts/recent

    Paging MarkSenior!
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,334
    Labour now saying they have lost most seats in Cardiff North to the Tories
    https://twitter.com/richie_1994wale/status/860288475152732162
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    TudorRose said:

    AndyJS said:

    The Tories have swept the board in Tamworth, with 3 gains from Labour.

    https://twitter.com/TamworthCouncil

    Tory majority of just 15 in one ward.
    Labour has never won a general election without winning Tamworth.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,618
    Right, bedtime. See you in the morning for more!
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    BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    HYUFD said:

    Labour now saying they have lost most seats in Cardiff North to the Tories
    https://twitter.com/richie_1994wale/status/860288475152732162

    Bloodbath....
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    TudorRoseTudorRose Posts: 1,662
    We should do this more often. Tell you what, why don't we all come back in - say - five weeks and do it all again?
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    BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    Good night. Right now the Consevatives should be losing seats, as is normal for a party of power yet they are still gaining seats.

    Bonkers. Great, but bonkers all the same.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,960
    Who is this Corbynite bleating about prisms on LBC?
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,053
    CON 64 (+25) LAB 14 (-18) LD 7 (-3) IND 5 (+3) GRN 1 (-1) UKIP 0 (-5)
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,960
    TudorRose said:

    We should do this more often. Tell you what, why don't we all come back in - say - five weeks and do it all again?

    It'll never catch on...
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Tories gain Grange & Kingsway in Gloucester from Labour with 18% swing. 4% Lab maj turned into a 32% Tory one.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,960
    edited May 2017
    So, looking like Mrs May's support is a mile wide AND a mile deep...
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,036
    Essex officially a CON HOLD!
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,960
    RobD said:

    Essex officially a CON HOLD!

    A great county. Fantastic roads and shellfish. Good news!
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,334
    edited May 2017
    Sky says Tories have gained Gloucestershire from NOC
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,036
    And on that bombshell.. I'm gonna take a break!
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,618
    Mortimer said:

    RobD said:

    Essex officially a CON HOLD!

    A great county. Fantastic roads and shellfish. Good news!
    A county of two halves...
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Con gain from Lab in Copeland / Cleaton Moor East on 10% swing.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,334
    Tories gain Epping and Theydon Bois from LDs after recount (hopefully my knocking up this evening helped a little!)
    https://twitter.com/eefnews/status/860290603661357056
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,960
    AndyJS said:

    Con gain from Lab in Copeland / Cleaton Moor East on 10% swing.

    The Copeland by-election really was the first sign of the Tory earthquake we're about to witness in the next 5 weeks, wasn't it.
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    HYUFD said:

    Tories gain Epping and Theydon Bois from LDs after recount (hopefully my knocking up this evening helped a little!)
    https://twitter.com/eefnews/status/860290603661357056

    well if it was on a re-count then it did!
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,960
    RobD said:

    And on that bombshell.. I'm gonna take a break!

    Thanks for all your hard work Rob.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,960
    nunu said:

    HYUFD said:

    Tories gain Epping and Theydon Bois from LDs after recount (hopefully my knocking up this evening helped a little!)
    https://twitter.com/eefnews/status/860290603661357056

    well if it was on a re-count then it did!
    A recount for 144 lead - eh??
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    marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    Prof Roger Scully‏ @roger_scully 25s25 seconds ago

    So far not looking like great results for @Plaid_Cymru in Ceredigion. Not what they would want to boost challenge for the seat in June.
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    BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    One more Conservative seat on Warwickshire and that's a Con hold too.
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    CookieCookie Posts: 11,612
    Mortimer said:

    AndyJS said:

    Con gain from Lab in Copeland / Cleaton Moor East on 10% swing.

    The Copeland by-election really was the first sign of the Tory earthquake we're about to witness in the next 5 weeks, wasn't it.
    But Cleator Moor East?! Cleator Moor is one of the grimmest places in England (apologies to any Cleator Moorians, but it is). That the Tories are winning here shows the extent of the political realignment over the last few years.
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    RobinWiggsRobinWiggs Posts: 621
    For those still interested in my Wrexham witterings...

    LAB have lost another seat to IND - this time one of the two seats the held in core LAB territory in Coedpoeth.

    From a betting perspective, I'd say the 1-4 available on a Tory gain on May the 8th is a good return.
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    marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    IanB2 said:

    The BBC has Welsh Labour on 53 seats won, net loss of two. Somewhere must have gone a lot better than Wrexham to make up the losses there?

    Newport so far they have saved 6 seats ut just lost seat to Plaid in Bridgend
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,177

    One more Conservative seat on Warwickshire and that's a Con hold too.

    It will be a Con gain.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,960

    For those still interested in my Wrexham witterings...

    LAB have lost another seat to IND - this time one of the two seats the held in core LAB territory in Coedpoeth.

    From a betting perspective, I'd say the 1-4 available on a Tory gain on May the 8th is a good return.

    Detailed wittering is always welcome here Robin.
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    BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944

    One more Conservative seat on Warwickshire and that's a Con hold too.

    It will be a Con gain.
    What was it? NOC?
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,036
    Lib Dems still down.. titters.
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    RobinWiggsRobinWiggs Posts: 621
    Crikey O'Reilly.

    Bulkington (Nuneaton). Huge Conservative GAIN
    Lab 24%, down from 36%
    Con 76%, up from 36%
    UKIP did not stand - they got 28% in 2014
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,053
    Wrexham at 1-4 looks solid enough to be fair.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2017
    Popular vote in Tamworth:

    Con 8342
    Lab 6107
    UKIP 1914
    Greens 605
    LD 454

    Con 47.88%
    Lab 35.05%
    UKIP 10.99%
    Greens 3.47%
    LD 2.61%

    Interesting that UKIP are still polling over 10% in this Middle England area.
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    RobinWiggsRobinWiggs Posts: 621
    Mortimer said:

    For those still interested in my Wrexham witterings...

    LAB have lost another seat to IND - this time one of the two seats the held in core LAB territory in Coedpoeth.

    From a betting perspective, I'd say the 1-4 available on a Tory gain on May the 8th is a good return.

    Detailed wittering is always welcome here Robin.
    Shame I got the detail of the GE date wrong then! ;-)

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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,334
    nunu said:

    HYUFD said:

    Tories gain Epping and Theydon Bois from LDs after recount (hopefully my knocking up this evening helped a little!)
    https://twitter.com/eefnews/status/860290603661357056

    well if it was on a re-count then it did!
    It took a lot of hard work over the last few weeks to gain this seat which the LDs have held for 8 years, as Mortimer says the fact Chris Whitbread, the excellent Tory candidate, took it by 144 votes (even with a recount) made it all worthwhile
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,177

    One more Conservative seat on Warwickshire and that's a Con hold too.

    It will be a Con gain.
    What was it? NOC?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warwickshire_County_Council_election,_2013
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,036

    One more Conservative seat on Warwickshire and that's a Con hold too.

    It will be a Con gain.
    What was it? NOC?
    I have it as NOC. But there were boundary changes.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,960

    Crikey O'Reilly.

    Bulkington (Nuneaton). Huge Conservative GAIN
    Lab 24%, down from 36%
    Con 76%, up from 36%
    UKIP did not stand - they got 28% in 2014

    Boy am I looking forward to June 8th. It comes 5 days after my busiest time of year: I'm going to be canvassing/leafleting Mon-Wednesday then telling/knocking up all day Thurs. Cannot wait!
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,193
    TudorRose said:

    LibDems have lost 4 seats to the Tories in Somerset... so far!

    What, not won over by Tim "Mr. Eurosceptic" Farron? You surprise me......
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,960
    AndyJS said:

    Popular vote in Tamworth:

    Con 8342
    Lab 6107
    UKIP 1914
    Greens 605
    LD 454

    Con 47.88%
    Lab 35.05%
    UKIP 10.99%
    Greens 3.47%
    LD 2.61%

    Interesting that UKIP are still polling over 10% in this Middle England area.

    Mrs May's target for the 2022 election ....
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,960
    edited May 2017

    Crikey O'Reilly.

    Bulkington (Nuneaton). Huge Conservative GAIN
    Lab 24%, down from 36%
    Con 76%, up from 36%
    UKIP did not stand - they got 28% in 2014

    That was just read out on t'radio!
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    NeilVWNeilVW Posts: 726
    edited May 2017
    IanB2 said:

    The BBC has Welsh Labour on 53 seats won, net loss of two. Somewhere must have gone a lot better than Wrexham to make up the losses there?

    now showing 61 (-7)
    edit: now 63 (-8)
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/3c6a4e42-9efd-4440-89df-647121c87452/wales-local-elections-2017
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,334
    Labour now 3rd in England behind Tories and LDs
    https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/860294036002926593
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    Mortimer said:

    Crikey O'Reilly.

    Bulkington (Nuneaton). Huge Conservative GAIN
    Lab 24%, down from 36%
    Con 76%, up from 36%
    UKIP did not stand - they got 28% in 2014

    That was just read out on t'radio!
    hi ian!
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    RobinWiggsRobinWiggs Posts: 621
    CON gain Borras Park from LAB on Wrexham CBC, with a 13% LD>CON swing.

    Tories picking up votes and seats from both LAB and LIBDEMs in this high Leave voting seat.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,618
    NeilVW said:

    IanB2 said:

    The BBC has Welsh Labour on 53 seats won, net loss of two. Somewhere must have gone a lot better than Wrexham to make up the losses there?

    now showing 61 (-7)
    edit: now 63 (-8)
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/3c6a4e42-9efd-4440-89df-647121c87452/wales-local-elections-2017
    So far that's not a wipeout, however - compare England where so far Labour has lost almost as many as it has held?
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    PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited May 2017
    Pulpstar said:

    Pong said:

    Le Pen is edging in a little on betfair.

    Macron 1.12/3
    Le Pen 9.2/6

    God only knows why
    Doesn't make much sense to me either.

    It would be interesting if @shadsy is seeing the same thing;

    https://betting.betfair.com/politics/french-politics/french-presidential-election-betting-odds-wednesday-3-may-030517-299.html

    "In a flurry of activity that has now seen over £23m traded on Betfair's Exchange overall, and over £2m in the past 48hrs, a huge number of individual bets have been placed on Marine Le Pen. 80% of all bets placed have been on the Front National candidate, in a situation that mimics what happened in November of last year during the US Presidential election which saw Donald Trump swoop to power."

    To me, that doesn't indicate smart money.

    We'll see.
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    BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    Conservatives have won their 29th seat on Warwickshire meaning they have control.
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    BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944

    One more Conservative seat on Warwickshire and that's a Con hold too.

    It will be a Con gain.
    What was it? NOC?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warwickshire_County_Council_election,_2013
    Conservative gain from NOC then.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,334
    Tories gain Borras Park from LDs in Wrexham
    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/860294541471076352
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,036

    Conservatives have won their 29th seat on Warwickshire meaning they have control.

    Will update that council when they put a table on their website.

    Cumbria have the best website, they have a log of the declarations in chronological order.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,334
    edited May 2017
    Labour sources now expect to lose the council leader and their majority in Blaenau Gwent
    https://twitter.com/DrGABaines/status/860294411258933250
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,177

    One more Conservative seat on Warwickshire and that's a Con hold too.

    It will be a Con gain.
    What was it? NOC?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warwickshire_County_Council_election,_2013
    Conservative gain from NOC then.
    Yes - the question now is whether the Conservatives will reach their 2009 total in Warwickshire.
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    BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    I'm off to bed, good night.
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    BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    HYUFD said:

    Labour sources now expect to lose the council leader and their majority in Blaenau Gwent
    https://twitter.com/DrGABaines/status/860294411258933250

    Wow.
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    kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 4,070
    All these results seem to be saying to me is final confirmation that there is no lib dem surge.

    Where's still good to get on at 10 seats or less? I've already got 30 quid on at 10/1 at various places.
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    With more than 10% of results for England we are still to see a single UKIP hold.
    When and where could we see the first one?
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    marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    LAB hold Butetown Cardiff
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,325
    But Con hold Tamworth Parliamentary seat already.

    Which seat is relevant to Tamworth local result tonight?
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,960
    Could Labour be beneath 300 councillors for these voting areas at the end of tomorow?
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    RobinWiggsRobinWiggs Posts: 621
    If you want to see the fun of the Cardiff results... they're here:

    http://cardiff.moderngov.co.uk/mgElectionResults.aspx?ID=37&RPID=1001247971&LLL=0
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,960

    If you want to see the fun of the Cardiff results... they're here:

    http://cardiff.moderngov.co.uk/mgElectionResults.aspx?ID=37&RPID=1001247971&LLL=0

    Really useful pie chart there presently...
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    NeilVWNeilVW Posts: 726

    HYUFD said:

    Labour sources now expect to lose the council leader and their majority in Blaenau Gwent
    https://twitter.com/DrGABaines/status/860294411258933250

    Wow.
    Majority of 24 in Blaenau Gwent as per Wiki. (Merthyr: 13)
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,325
    Con net +45 per Rob's spreadsheet.

    If only just over 10% of seats declared that surely suggests Con on course for far more gains than predicted?

    Though of course results so far may not be typical.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,960
    MikeL said:

    Con net +45 per Rob's spreadsheet.

    If only just over 10% of seats declared that surely suggests Con on course for far more gains than predicted?

    Though of course results so far may not be typical.

    Stephen Fisher is going to look like an oracle, I reckon....
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,334

    HYUFD said:

    Labour sources now expect to lose the council leader and their majority in Blaenau Gwent
    https://twitter.com/DrGABaines/status/860294411258933250

    Wow.
    I know a guy who was planning to stand as the paper Tory candidate there, may not be so paper now
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    If you want to see the fun of the Cardiff results... they're here:

    http://cardiff.moderngov.co.uk/mgElectionResults.aspx?ID=37&RPID=1001247971&LLL=0

    Thanks Robin.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,036
    MikeL said:

    Con net +45 per Rob's spreadsheet.

    If only just over 10% of seats declared that surely suggests Con on course for far more gains than predicted?

    Though of course results so far may not be typical.

    I could make the rest of the seats CON gain :p:D
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,053
    Remember that alot of these Labour seats were won by Ed Miliband in his pomp, so it's a very high bar for Corbyn to cross.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    MikeL said:

    But Con hold Tamworth Parliamentary seat already.

    Which seat is relevant to Tamworth local result tonight?

    As I said earlier, Labour have never won a general election without winning Tamworth.

    The Tamworth constituency also includes some rural areas from Lichfield District which are very Conservative indeed.
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,325
    edited May 2017
    UKIP down 20 - is that really 20 losses out of 20 declared?

    UKIP wipeout could help Con more at GE if media narrative is that UKIP completely finished.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,334
    edited May 2017
    Pulpstar said:

    Remember that alot of these Labour seats were won by Ed Miliband in his pomp, so it's a very high bar for Corbyn to cross.

    Yet losing control of Merthyr and Blaenau Gwent? These are areas you are supposed to be able to put a donkey up with a red rosette on and he would still win!
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,960
    MikeL said:

    UKIP down 20 - is that really 20 losses out of 20 declared?

    UKIP wipeout could help Con more at GE if media narrative is that UKIP completely finished.

    Yup.
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    RobinWiggsRobinWiggs Posts: 621
    More from Wrexham:

    CON candidate on June 8th Andrew Atkinson has just taken the Gresford seat from Labour with 73% of the vote (CON got 28% last time), LAB drop 36%>16% and LIB DEM drop 36%>10%

    1/4 is not a great return, but looks pretty nailed on now.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Mortimer said:

    AndyJS said:

    Popular vote in Tamworth:

    Con 8342
    Lab 6107
    UKIP 1914
    Greens 605
    LD 454

    Con 47.88%
    Lab 35.05%
    UKIP 10.99%
    Greens 3.47%
    LD 2.61%

    Interesting that UKIP are still polling over 10% in this Middle England area.

    Mrs May's target for the 2022 election ....
    These were the Labour majorities in Tamworth in 1997, 2001 and 2005:

    1997: 7,496 votes
    2001: 4,598 votes
    2005: 2,569 votes
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,334
    Tories regain control of Lincolnshire CC
    https://twitter.com/KHemingwayITV/status/860296827165454342
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,960

    More from Wrexham:

    CON candidate on June 8th Andrew Atkinson has just taken the Gresford seat from Labour with 73% of the vote (CON got 28% last time), LAB drop 36%>16% and LIB DEM drop 36%>10%

    1/4 is not a great return, but looks pretty nailed on now.

    Maybe all my facebook likes for Mrs May have finally made an impact with my extended North Welsh family!
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,334
    Some better news for Labour, they look like holding Newport
    https://twitter.com/DeansOfCardiff/status/860296942047383553
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    Arthur_PennyArthur_Penny Posts: 198
    AndyJS said:
    Looks like CON will take Cumbria from NOC - 10 gains from Labour
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    ArtistArtist Posts: 1,883
    HYUFD said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Remember that alot of these Labour seats were won by Ed Miliband in his pomp, so it's a very high bar for Corbyn to cross.

    Yet losing control of Merthyr and Blaenau Gwent? These are areas you are supposed to be able to put a donkey up with a red rosette on and he would still win!
    Labour gained both in 2012.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,334
    Tories retain Essex, LDs may have come second ahead of Labour in the county
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,325
    Sky:

    Nuneaton Lab parliamentary candidate has lost his seat on Warwicks council and has blamed Corbyn.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,334
    Tories win Haymill and Lynch Hill by-election in Slough

    https://twitter.com/sloughobserver/status/860296067677597697
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    BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,489
    HYUFD said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Remember that alot of these Labour seats were won by Ed Miliband in his pomp, so it's a very high bar for Corbyn to cross.

    Yet losing control of Merthyr and Blaenau Gwent? These are areas you are supposed to be able to put a donkey up with a red rosette on and he would still win!
    A donkey Maybe, but Jeremy Corbyn no.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2017
    In Tamworth UKIP got 11% compared to 18% at the general election. Shows their popular vote is holding up at slightly more than half of what they got in 2015, in line with the opinion polls. Useful information IMO.
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    PendduPenddu Posts: 265
    Artist said:

    HYUFD said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Remember that alot of these Labour seats were won by Ed Miliband in his pomp, so it's a very high bar for Corbyn to cross.

    Yet losing control of Merthyr and Blaenau Gwent? These are areas you are supposed to be able to put a donkey up with a red rosette on and he would still win!
    Labour gained both in 2012.
    In both cases, losses to Independent - as in 2012. I am really disappointed with Plaid response in both seats - only fielding 1 candidate in Merthyr (they ran the council here many years ago) and especially in BG where they almost won in last WA election yet only fielded 3 candidates. They have a very poor presence in both seats which should have been ripe for taking!
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    Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,126
    I wonder if JC is going to get a tap on the shoulder from "Len" McCluskey is this turns out to be an absolute shit show for Labour.
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    PaulMPaulM Posts: 613
    Pong said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Pong said:

    Le Pen is edging in a little on betfair.

    Macron 1.12/3
    Le Pen 9.2/6

    God only knows why
    Doesn't make much sense to me either.

    It would be interesting if @shadsy is seeing the same thing;

    https://betting.betfair.com/politics/french-politics/french-presidential-election-betting-odds-wednesday-3-may-030517-299.html

    "In a flurry of activity that has now seen over £23m traded on Betfair's Exchange overall, and over £2m in the past 48hrs, a huge number of individual bets have been placed on Marine Le Pen. 80% of all bets placed have been on the Front National candidate, in a situation that mimics what happened in November of last year during the US Presidential election which saw Donald Trump swoop to power."

    To me, that doesn't indicate smart money.

    We'll see.
    Let's hope it's not smart money. Given the scenarios where MLP might win, I'm reminded of the suspicious trading in airline options the week before 9/11

    Perhaps the Surete should put in a call to see whose money is going on
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