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SystemSystem Posts: 11,705
edited May 2017 in General

imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » For the latest numbers on what seems a bad night for LAB check out RobD’s great spreadsheet

Rob’s great resource is here and part of what it is showing is featured above.

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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 28,015
    First like Macron
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,002
    dixiedean said:

    First like Macron

    I bloody hope so !
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    PaulyPauly Posts: 897
    Fourth like Diane Abbott
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,002
    My model has

    Wrexham 50.82%
    Labour 27.92%

    at the GE by the way.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,048
    No pressure rob
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,002
    HI IAIN !!
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,002
    Rob's spreadsheet just got a shout from Iain Dale :D
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,167
    Labour group leader on Warwickshire CC gone
    https://twitter.com/THENUNEATONFOX/status/860268364161220614
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    Wrexham is the Tories' target #25, with a current Lab majority of only 1831. Seems a guaranteed goner in the GE.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,002
    MTimT said:

    Wrexham is the Tories' target #25, with a current Lab majority of only 1831. Seems a guaranteed goner in the GE.

    Yep it is gone.
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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 28,015
    Pauly said:

    Fourth like Diane Abbott

    :)
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,167
    edited May 2017
    National tally so far

    Tories 15 (+3)
    Lab 5 (-3)
    LD 4 (0)
    Ind 17 (0)
    UKIP 0 (-1)
    Green 0 (0)
    https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/860273122376810496
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    BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    Thanks to Rob for the spreadsheet!

    Also interesting results in so far. Not looking good for Labour.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2017
    Labour have lost Bryn Cefn in Wrexham where they were defending a 44% majority.
    Swing = 30%.

    http://moderngov.wrexham.gov.uk/mgElectionAreaResults.aspx?XXR=0&ID=52&RPID=1001115328&LLL=undefined
    http://moderngov.wrexham.gov.uk/mgElectionAreaResults.aspx?XXR=0&ID=1000000007&RPID=1001115029&LLL=undefined
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,048
    TudorRose said:

    ThreeQuidder said:

    LBC just namechecked the spreadsheet!

    That's because it's very good; great job, Rob!
    I like it as it is a bit more elegant and not over cluttered. You want the full data later, but simple and clean results, even if it needs tweaking as you go along? Invaluable.

    And a good night to political anoraks everywhere. These are our times.
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    The reality of Labour's woes are really only just hitting me. Wipeout in Scotland in 2015. Wipeout in Wales in 2017. Whatever happened to the Celtic Firewall?
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    12:26am
    Farage not hopeful
    Hope are not high for Ukip in these local elections - even Farage seems to expect the party to get a battering tonight. In an interview on LBC, he said:

    "It’s not just Labour that’s going to lose seats tonight – and I’m very glad I’m coming off air in a moment.”
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    MTimT said:

    Wrexham is the Tories' target #25, with a current Lab majority of only 1831. Seems a guaranteed goner in the GE.

    whereabouts in Britain are u orginally from Tim, out of interest?
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    Oh neat!
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,369
    Never mind labour can put up Diane Abbott tomorrow as she will confuse everyone with her variable figures and general waffle.

    My son called tonight and he said her interview was the funniest, and at the same time, the most worrying political broadcast he had ever seen. He kept playing it - it was so enjoyable
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    Pulpstar said:

    Rob's spreadsheet just got a shout from Iain Dale :D

    Hah, I had it on mute :p
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Thanks to Rob for a great resource.
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,142
    edited May 2017
    AndyJS said:

    Labour have lost Bryn Cefn in Wrexham where they were defending a 44% majority.
    Swing = 30%.

    http://moderngov.wrexham.gov.uk/mgElectionAreaResults.aspx?XXR=0&ID=52&RPID=1001115328&LLL=undefined
    http://moderngov.wrexham.gov.uk/mgElectionAreaResults.aspx?XXR=0&ID=1000000007&RPID=1001115029&LLL=undefined

    Yet again predictions based upon local by-elections from many months ago are going to look very silly.

    IIRC Rallings and Thrasher were predicting that Labour would get the same vote share as in 2013.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    HYUFD said:

    Labour group leader on Warwickshire CC gone
    https://twitter.com/THENUNEATONFOX/status/860268364161220614

    oh dear - ha hah hah ah
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,167
    AndyJS said:

    Thanks to Rob for a great resource.

    Yes excellent, thanks
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    nunu said:

    MTimT said:

    Wrexham is the Tories' target #25, with a current Lab majority of only 1831. Seems a guaranteed goner in the GE.

    whereabouts in Britain are u orginally from Tim, out of interest?
    Plymouth by birth, Cornwall by heritage. The surname is a Tre- name.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,167
    Floater said:

    HYUFD said:

    Labour group leader on Warwickshire CC gone
    https://twitter.com/THENUNEATONFOX/status/860268364161220614

    oh dear - ha hah hah ah
    I doubt he will be the last either
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    I was drifting off but there was a mention of Ruth Davidson and a few seconds later a distinct call of "klaxon". I think Iain Dale lurks BTL.

    Unless he has a pseudonym...
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,167
    Tories up 18% on 2013 in Hertfordshire so far, UKIP down 25%, Lab unchanged, LDs up 3%
    https://twitter.com/MrJCrouch/status/860274391619440640
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,002
    Britain Elects‏ @britainelects 8m8 minutes ago

    Liberal Democrats HOLD Offa (Wrexham)

    Offa's Dyke !
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    MTimT said:

    nunu said:

    MTimT said:

    Wrexham is the Tories' target #25, with a current Lab majority of only 1831. Seems a guaranteed goner in the GE.

    whereabouts in Britain are u orginally from Tim, out of interest?
    Plymouth by birth, Cornwall by heritage. The surname is a Tre- name.</blockquote

    Interesting.
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    kjohnwkjohnw Posts: 1,456
    The question is if it really is going to be a bad night for Labour will Corbyn stand down or cling on until the GE and watch labour get destroyed?
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    RobinWiggsRobinWiggs Posts: 621
    another_richard said:

    AndyJS said:

    Labour have lost Bryn Cefn in Wrexham where they were defending a 44% majority.
    Swing = 30%.

    http://moderngov.wrexham.gov.uk/mgElectionAreaResults.aspx?XXR=0&ID=52&RPID=1001115328&LLL=undefined
    http://moderngov.wrexham.gov.uk/mgElectionAreaResults.aspx?XXR=0&ID=1000000007&RPID=1001115029&LLL=undefined

    Yet again predictions based upon local by-elections from many months ago are going to look very silly.

    IIRC Rallings and Thrasher were predicting that Labour would get the same vote share as in 2013.
    Nah - it'll go. The CON candidate is again Andrew Atkinson, a very popular local campaigner who did well in the assembly election - and who has appeal across traditional boundaries. An important consideration in Wales where many still find the brand difficult.

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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,453
    HYUFD said:

    Tories up 18% on 2013 in Hertfordshire so far, UKIP down 25%, Lab unchanged, LDs up 3%
    https://twitter.com/MrJCrouch/status/860274391619440640

    Looks like some UKIP voters are returning to Labour to cancel out their losses
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,167
    kjohnw said:

    The question is if it really is going to be a bad night for Labour will Corbyn stand down or cling on until the GE and watch labour get destroyed?

    He will stay, he has a 'mandate' from members, the voters just need to be better educated!
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    chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    ThreeQuidder said:

    I was drifting off but there was a mention of Ruth Davidson and a few seconds later a distinct call of "klaxon". I think Iain Dale lurks BTL.

    Unless he has a pseudonym...

    Speaking of Klaxons and surges, where is that full blown Scottish poll that Divvie was mentioning this morning?
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,167
    edited May 2017
    7% swing to Tories in Besses Ward which would be enough to take Bury South https://twitter.com/BuryTories/status/860274882860404737
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    LBC predicting this will at least unwind the Tories losses in 2013.
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    PaulMPaulM Posts: 613
    I love the spreadsheet and I love that there are other people out there who would enjoy creating something like that. We are not alone...
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    PaulM said:

    I love the spreadsheet and I love that there are other people out there who would enjoy creating something like that. We are not alone...

    There are dozens of us!
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    AndyJS said:

    Labour have lost Bryn Cefn in Wrexham where they were defending a 44% majority.
    Swing = 30%.

    http://moderngov.wrexham.gov.uk/mgElectionAreaResults.aspx?XXR=0&ID=52&RPID=1001115328&LLL=undefined
    http://moderngov.wrexham.gov.uk/mgElectionAreaResults.aspx?XXR=0&ID=1000000007&RPID=1001115029&LLL=undefined

    On that swing with UNS, the Tories would get all of their top 150 target seats from Labour and probably more - Islington South and Finsbury is #150 at 28.71

    Fantasyland, I know. But 'king hell!
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,167
    Labour lost all 3 of their Essex CC seats in Harlow, Corbyn was there just over a week ago in this supposed Labour 'target' seat
    https://twitter.com/gsoh31/status/860276898655596544
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    Matt Zarb Cousin on LBC: Labour losses tonight will cause no changes in the GE campaign.
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    TudorRoseTudorRose Posts: 1,662
    kjohnw said:

    The question is if it really is going to be a bad night for Labour will Corbyn stand down or cling on until the GE and watch labour get destroyed?

    Corbyn wouldn't stand down when his own MPs had no confidence in him, why would he worry about a few voters?
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Tories up 18% on 2013 in Hertfordshire so far, UKIP down 25%, Lab unchanged, LDs up 3%
    https://twitter.com/MrJCrouch/status/860274391619440640

    Looks like some UKIP voters are returning to Labour to cancel out their losses
    hertfordshire is a poor area for lab- they have few votes to lose.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,002
    Labour bod on LBC spinning like a washing machine
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    marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    Port Talbot count delayed as postal votes not arrived
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Tories up 18% on 2013 in Hertfordshire so far, UKIP down 25%, Lab unchanged, LDs up 3%
    https://twitter.com/MrJCrouch/status/860274391619440640

    Looks like some UKIP voters are returning to Labour to cancel out their losses
    I think Lab ad bedrock in Herts, and the few Lab supporters in the shires often quite like the hard left.
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    nunu said:



    Interesting.

    And you?

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    marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    Peter Black of Lib Dems says Tory vote in Swansea looks very high
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,167
    Tories gain Basildon Westley Heights from UKIP
    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/860277670369734657
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    TudorRoseTudorRose Posts: 1,662
    foxinsoxuk said:

    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Tories up 18% on 2013 in Hertfordshire so far, UKIP down 25%, Lab unchanged, LDs up 3%
    https://twitter.com/MrJCrouch/status/860274391619440640

    Looks like some UKIP voters are returning to Labour to cancel out their losses
    I think Lab ad bedrock in Herts, and the few Lab supporters in the shires often quite like the hard left.
    But Tories gain Boston North from UKIP; Sir/Lord/Professor Nuttall should be worried....
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    Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,059
    Pulpstar said:

    Labour bod on LBC spinning like a washing machine

    He's a great lol. Will they have eoin on soon?
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    MTimT said:

    nunu said:



    Interesting.

    And you?

    I was born in london and never left! my parents from sub-continent.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,002
    marke09 said:

    Peter Black of Lib Dems says Tory vote in Swansea looks very high

    My model has Swansea as follows at the GE:

    LAB Swansea East 30.41% 44.43%
    LAB Swansea West 35.23% 36.10%
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    david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,422
    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Tories up 18% on 2013 in Hertfordshire so far, UKIP down 25%, Lab unchanged, LDs up 3%
    https://twitter.com/MrJCrouch/status/860274391619440640

    Looks like some UKIP voters are returning to Labour to cancel out their losses
    That's not really very helpful though if Con are up 18%.
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    kjohnwkjohnw Posts: 1,456
    TudorRose said:

    kjohnw said:

    The question is if it really is going to be a bad night for Labour will Corbyn stand down or cling on until the GE and watch labour get destroyed?

    Corbyn wouldn't stand down when his own MPs had no confidence in him, why would he worry about a few voters?
    Yes you have a point, one wonders what will it take for him to fall on his sword?
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    PaulMPaulM Posts: 613
    nunu said:

    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Tories up 18% on 2013 in Hertfordshire so far, UKIP down 25%, Lab unchanged, LDs up 3%
    https://twitter.com/MrJCrouch/status/860274391619440640

    Looks like some UKIP voters are returning to Labour to cancel out their losses
    hertfordshire is a poor area for lab- they have few votes to lose.
    nunu said:

    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Tories up 18% on 2013 in Hertfordshire so far, UKIP down 25%, Lab unchanged, LDs up 3%
    https://twitter.com/MrJCrouch/status/860274391619440640

    Looks like some UKIP voters are returning to Labour to cancel out their losses
    hertfordshire is a poor area for lab- they have few votes to lose.
    There's pockets though. Stevenage and Hitchen for instance. And it isn't so long since Watford, St Albans, Hemel and Welwyn Hatfield all had Labour MPs.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,453
    edited May 2017
    Gospel Oak by-election LB Camden, Lab hold 50% (+2%), LDs second 20% (+13%)
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    NeilVWNeilVW Posts: 725
    edited May 2017
    Another Lab Wrexham seat gone, this time to Plaid.

    edit to add: They won't have too many left at this rate, I think they started the night at 12.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    I think there was a CON GAIN from LD, Lodmoor On Dorset :o
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,167
    Labour in trouble in north Cardiff
    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/860278585432604674
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    marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    Prof Roger Scully Retweeted
    BBC Wales Politics‏Verified account @WalesPolitics 1m1 minute ago

    Welsh Labour source says the 'heavily briefed' Tory advance in Wales is 'yet to materialise' #LocalElections
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,002
    HYUFD said:

    Labour in trouble in north Cardiff
    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/860278585432604674

    Model:
    CON Cardiff North 56.55% 29.91%
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    TudorRose said:

    foxinsoxuk said:

    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Tories up 18% on 2013 in Hertfordshire so far, UKIP down 25%, Lab unchanged, LDs up 3%
    https://twitter.com/MrJCrouch/status/860274391619440640

    Looks like some UKIP voters are returning to Labour to cancel out their losses
    I think Lab ad bedrock in Herts, and the few Lab supporters in the shires often quite like the hard left.
    But Tories gain Boston North from UKIP; Sir/Lord/Professor Nuttall should be worried....
    Did a kipper stand?

    Nuttall is toast, but I have a bet with isam that kippers will not get over 15% in any seat at the GE.
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    Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,059
    PaulM said:

    nunu said:

    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Tories up 18% on 2013 in Hertfordshire so far, UKIP down 25%, Lab unchanged, LDs up 3%
    https://twitter.com/MrJCrouch/status/860274391619440640

    Looks like some UKIP voters are returning to Labour to cancel out their losses
    hertfordshire is a poor area for lab- they have few votes to lose.
    nunu said:

    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Tories up 18% on 2013 in Hertfordshire so far, UKIP down 25%, Lab unchanged, LDs up 3%
    https://twitter.com/MrJCrouch/status/860274391619440640

    Looks like some UKIP voters are returning to Labour to cancel out their losses
    hertfordshire is a poor area for lab- they have few votes to lose.
    There's pockets though. Stevenage and Hitchen for instance. And it isn't so long since Watford, St Albans, Hemel and Welwyn Hatfield all had Labour MPs.
    We don't like to be reminded of this.
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    RobinWiggsRobinWiggs Posts: 621
    LAB lose another Wrexham seat, this time to PLAID, dropping from 55% last time to 3rd place and 28% this time.

    Looking awful for them tonight.
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    marke09 said:

    Prof Roger Scully Retweeted
    BBC Wales Politics‏Verified account @WalesPolitics 1m1 minute ago

    Welsh Labour source says the 'heavily briefed' Tory advance in Wales is 'yet to materialise' #LocalElections

    marke09 said:

    Prof Roger Scully Retweeted
    BBC Wales Politics‏Verified account @WalesPolitics 1m1 minute ago

    Welsh Labour source says the 'heavily briefed' Tory advance in Wales is 'yet to materialise' #LocalElections

    There are hardly any results yet!
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    TudorRoseTudorRose Posts: 1,662
    kjohnw said:

    TudorRose said:

    kjohnw said:

    The question is if it really is going to be a bad night for Labour will Corbyn stand down or cling on until the GE and watch labour get destroyed?

    Corbyn wouldn't stand down when his own MPs had no confidence in him, why would he worry about a few voters?
    Yes you have a point, one wonders what will it take for him to fall on his sword?
    Someone giving it a helping hand?! Do Labour do grey suits?
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    RobinWiggsRobinWiggs Posts: 621
    Britain Elects‏ @britainelects · 2m2 minutes ago

    Labour understand to be in trouble the northern portion of Cardiff.

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    Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,059
    Corbyintes phoning in to lbc now.... time for bed
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,453
    Boston North also being called Con gain from UkIp
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    marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    Geraint Thomas @thomas_geraint

    First result in Newport. Labour hold on to their 3 seats in Alway / Canlyniad cyntaf Casnewydd - Llafur yn cadw eu 3 sedd yn
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    peter_from_putneypeter_from_putney Posts: 6,875
    another_richard said:

    AndyJS said:

    Labour have lost Bryn Cefn in Wrexham where they were defending a 44% majority.
    Swing = 30%.

    http://moderngov.wrexham.gov.uk/mgElectionAreaResults.aspx?XXR=0&ID=52&RPID=1001115328&LLL=undefined
    http://moderngov.wrexham.gov.uk/mgElectionAreaResults.aspx?XXR=0&ID=1000000007&RPID=1001115029&LLL=undefined

    Yet again predictions based upon local by-elections from many months ago are going to look very silly.

    IIRC Rallings and Thrasher were predicting that Labour would get the same vote share as in 2013.
    Rallings & Thrasher have Labour losing 75 seats net, compare with Prof. Sephen Fisher who has them losing 315 seats in his albeit tongue in cheek prediction.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,002
    Labour vote holding up where it is utterly useless.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,167
    marke09 said:

    Prof Roger Scully Retweeted
    BBC Wales Politics‏Verified account @WalesPolitics 1m1 minute ago

    Welsh Labour source says the 'heavily briefed' Tory advance in Wales is 'yet to materialise' #LocalElections

    Presumably he is not in Wrexham or Cardiff then
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    edited May 2017
    nunu said:

    MTimT said:

    nunu said:



    Interesting.

    And you?

    I was born in london and never left! my parents from sub-continent.
    Ah. Lived in Ladbroke Grove, Parson's Green and Balham at various times. Spend a lot of time currently in Pakistan, mainly Karachi, Islamabad and Lahore.

    PS Forgot Brixton!
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    marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    Britain Elects‏ @britainelects 2m2 minutes ago

    Labour GAIN Smithfield (Wrexham) from Plaid Cymru.
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    Based on Matt Zarb Cousin's performance on LBC, the Labour line at this election is going to be "reverse cuts to X tax" as if this isn't the same as "raise X tax".
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    FF43FF43 Posts: 15,794
    edited May 2017
    Labour have lost more than half the wards they were defending in England, according to the BBC news site. (Edit: so far declared)
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    marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    very odd BBC Wales have all their Welsh language reporters at the count and are live on the BBC website - so why not on TV?
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    RobinWiggsRobinWiggs Posts: 621
    And then to confound things, LAB gain Smithfield in Wrexham.

    But see their vote drop from 44% to 28% in a five-way race this time.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,167
    Tories now up 13 nationally, Labour down 10 and LDs down 1, Independents up 1 and UKIP down 3
    https://twitter.com/UKGenElect/status/860279246438232065
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,369
    edited May 2017
    FF43 said:

    Labour have lost more than half the wards they were defending in England, according to the BBC news site

    Do you know how many they would lose
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    If Islington North looks in danger might that be enough to persuade Corbyn to stand down...? Might need to act to keep his job!
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,144
    TudorRose said:

    kjohnw said:

    TudorRose said:

    kjohnw said:

    The question is if it really is going to be a bad night for Labour will Corbyn stand down or cling on until the GE and watch labour get destroyed?

    Corbyn wouldn't stand down when his own MPs had no confidence in him, why would he worry about a few voters?
    Yes you have a point, one wonders what will it take for him to fall on his sword?
    Someone giving it a helping hand?! Do Labour do grey suits?
    Was it time it would have been the men in boiler suits....
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,167
    Cons gain Spalding East from UKIP
    https://twitter.com/richie_1994wale/status/860279887558520839
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    marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    James Williams‏ @jamswilliams85

    Plaid source from the Cardiff count: #GE2017 has had an affect. Some voters saying today they need to vote Lab to stop Theresa May's Tories.
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    david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,422
    RobinWiggs said:

    And then to confound things, LAB gain Smithfield in Wrexham.

    But see their vote drop from 44% to 28% in a five-way race this time.

    From Plaid, not from a real party.
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    marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    rof Roger Scully Retweeted
    James Williams‏ @jamswilliams85 2m2 minutes ago

    James Williams Retweeted James Williams

    Second source, this time from the @WelshLibDems saying "Labour doing better than expected" because of #GE2017
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    MTimT said:

    nunu said:

    MTimT said:

    nunu said:



    Interesting.

    And you?

    I was born in london and never left! my parents from sub-continent.
    Ah. Lived in Ladbroke Grove, Parson's Green and Balham at various times. Spend a lot of time currently in Pakistan, mainly Karachi, Islamabad and Lahore.

    PS Forgot Brixton!
    I've been to Pakistan only once when I was 14. Hated it! Family from Rawalpindi, also visited Muree and Peshawar. I hope you stay in "modern" areas with proper bathrooms.....
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    HYUFD said:

    Tories gain Basildon Westley Heights from UKIP
    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/860277670369734657

    It's actually the same person who was elected before. They defected from UKIP to Ind.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,453
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    FF43 said:

    Labour have lost more than half the wards they were defending in England, according to the BBC news site

    Do you kow many they would lose
    From the data above that would be about 275. With Scotland and Wales on top that must be heading for 500?
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,142
    david_herdson said:

    RobinWiggs said:

    And then to confound things, LAB gain Smithfield in Wrexham.

    But see their vote drop from 44% to 28% in a five-way race this time.

    From Plaid, not from a real party.
    And its listed as an Ind win in 2012 here:

    http://www.andrewteale.me.uk/leap/results/2012/426/
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,453
    Sounds like LBC is using us for their data now
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,167
    edited May 2017
    Tories hold Waltham Abbey and Chigwell and Loughton Broadway

    https://twitter.com/eppingforestdc/status/860279678443163648
    https://twitter.com/eppingforestdc/status/860280769557790720
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    marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    Independent Gain New Quay Ceredigion from Independent
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    IanB2 said:

    Sounds like LBC is using us for their data now

    The fools!
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,002
    I'm on unders 4.5 at around 8-13 for Plaid. Losing seats to Labour, embarrassing.
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    RobinWiggsRobinWiggs Posts: 621
    edited May 2017
    2nd LAB gain in Wrexham - Chirk North. 2 way race this time and last - Lab vote rises from 46% to 51% this time - a 10 vote winning margin over IND.

    Corbyn is safe, this result shows it all!
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