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He shares Castro's ability to rouse the masses as well as most of his policy programme then!williamglenn said:
Just look at the crowds Melenchon is pulling in. This was him today in Marseille.Casino_Royale said:
I'm the same. And now very red on both Fillon and Le Pen.Pulpstar said:
Macron-Melenchon is the dream.BudG said:
Melenchon is the one that will give Macron the toughest fight in the final round, if he gets through.Cyan said:
And Poutou is up to 2.5%. Perhaps some polls will soon have Mélenchon in second place. He's certainly got some momentum.BudG said:
Melenchon on 6 from the Kantar Sofres previous poll. Le Pen and Macron both down 2 and Fillon stagnant.Pulpstar said:
That's what I'm talking aboutBudG said:First poll showing Melenchon ahead of Fillon:
Macron 24%
Le Pen 24%
Melenchon 18%
Fillon 17%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_French_presidential_election,_2017
Head to heads
Melenchon beats Le Pen 57-43 and narrowly loses to Macron 53-47
53-47 head to head can easily be turned around in the TV debate ahead of the final vote, given Melenchon's performance in TV debates so far.
Not sure how Fillon is still at 6.0, though I'm red enough on him at the moment.
Fast approaching squeaky bum time.
It's sad that UK campaigns these days are devoid of this kind of public speaking.
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The US press has been broadly supportive of Trump's decision to launch air strikes against Syria.Sunil_Prasannan said:What's the American response to the suicide bombings in Egypt? Air strikes against IS?
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Exactly - I didn't even know bradford was a Sanctuary city,down to the useless politicians we elect in my city.isam said:This is where the migrants are sent... & when the existing population complain they're called racist. Wonder why they stuck two fingers up last June
https://twitter.com/guardian/status/851180198657761280
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I think dispersion of asylum seekers is national policy, rather than local. It dates from 1999. http://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CDP-2016-0095Tykejohnno said:
Exactly - I didn't even know bradford was a Sanctuary city,down to the useless politicians we elect in my city.isam said:This is where the migrants are sent... & when the existing population complain they're called racist. Wonder why they stuck two fingers up last June
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I am sure that the 8,496 people who pay for The National will be delighted to have their daily dose of anti-English outrage-fondling.HYUFD said:
Putin backs Scottish independence so not that surprising The National backs the line from the Kremlinwilliamglenn said:
That is only down 30% year on year. Amongst regional press, only the Wigan Evening Post is vanishing more quickly.
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/uk-regional-dailies-lose-print-sales-by-average-of-12-5-per-cent-wigan-post-and-the-national-are-biggest-fallers/
On topic: why can't he be Prime Minister of Vladivostok. Perhaps it is too capitalist.0 -
Trump met Egypt's President General Sisi last week and is broadly supportive of Egypt's tough line with militantsSunil_Prasannan said:What's the American response to the suicide bombings in Egypt? Air strikes against IS?
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-egypt-idUSKBN1751WT0 -
Wow, the lead is done to one shot. Garcia's done remarkably well to come through those few bad holes just one behind.0
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I am broadly opposed, except as I said for serial killersTim_B said:
As I've said on here before, I used to be pro-death penalty, but following my grand jury involvement in the process, I no longer am pro.HYUFD said:53% of Leave voters back restoration of the death penalty once the UK leaves the EU
http://www.thenationalstudent.com/National/2017-04-05/over_half_of_leave_voters_would_restore_the_death_penalty_in_the_uk.html0 -
To put that into context the London Evening Standard gets 100 times the circulation of The NationalMattW said:
I am sure that the 8,496 people who pay for The National will be delighted to have their daily dose of anti-English outrage-fondling.HYUFD said:
Putin backs Scottish independence so not that surprising The National backs the line from the Kremlinwilliamglenn said:
That is only down 30% year on year. Amongst regional press, only the Wigan Evening Post is vanishing more quickly.
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/uk-regional-dailies-lose-print-sales-by-average-of-12-5-per-cent-wigan-post-and-the-national-are-biggest-fallers/0 -
We'll see what will happen once Osborne gets his mitts on it!HYUFD said:
To put that into context the London Evening Standard gets 100 times the circulation of The NationalMattW said:
I am sure that the 8,496 people who pay for The National will be delighted to have their daily dose of anti-English outrage-fondling.HYUFD said:
Putin backs Scottish independence so not that surprising The National backs the line from the Kremlinwilliamglenn said:
That is only down 30% year on year. Amongst regional press, only the Wigan Evening Post is vanishing more quickly.
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/uk-regional-dailies-lose-print-sales-by-average-of-12-5-per-cent-wigan-post-and-the-national-are-biggest-fallers/0 -
Why not air stikes against IS?Tim_B said:
The US press has been broadly supportive of Trump's decision to launch air strikes against Syria.Sunil_Prasannan said:What's the American response to the suicide bombings in Egypt? Air strikes against IS?
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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZtlg86 said:Wow, the lead is done to one shot. Garcia's done remarkably well to come through those few bad holes just one behind.
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Err, being doing that for ages.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Why not air stikes against IS?Tim_B said:
The US press has been broadly supportive of Trump's decision to launch air strikes against Syria.Sunil_Prasannan said:What's the American response to the suicide bombings in Egypt? Air strikes against IS?
Works well, don't it?0 -
The Nat Onal is, of course, infinitely more expensive...HYUFD said:
To put that into context the London Evening Standard gets 100 times the circulation of The NationalMattW said:
I am sure that the 8,496 people who pay for The National will be delighted to have their daily dose of anti-English outrage-fondling.HYUFD said:
Putin backs Scottish independence so not that surprising The National backs the line from the Kremlinwilliamglenn said:
That is only down 30% year on year. Amongst regional press, only the Wigan Evening Post is vanishing more quickly.
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/uk-regional-dailies-lose-print-sales-by-average-of-12-5-per-cent-wigan-post-and-the-national-are-biggest-fallers/0 -
Yeah, just like air strikes on Assadfoxinsoxuk said:
Err, being doing that for ages.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Why not air stikes against IS?Tim_B said:
The US press has been broadly supportive of Trump's decision to launch air strikes against Syria.Sunil_Prasannan said:What's the American response to the suicide bombings in Egypt? Air strikes against IS?
Works well, don't it?
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If Garcia is Spain and Rose is England who the heck is Gibraltar?
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Over a quarter a million views, not bad going.HYUFD said:
He shares Castro's ability to rouse the masses as well as most of his policy programme then!williamglenn said:
Just look at the crowds Melenchon is pulling in. This was him today in Marseille.Casino_Royale said:
I'm the same. And now very red on both Fillon and Le Pen.Pulpstar said:
Macron-Melenchon is the dream.BudG said:
Melenchon is the one that will give Macron the toughest fight in the final round, if he gets through.Cyan said:
And Poutou is up to 2.5%. Perhaps some polls will soon have Mélenchon in second place. He's certainly got some momentum.BudG said:
Melenchon on 6 from the Kantar Sofres previous poll. Le Pen and Macron both down 2 and Fillon stagnant.Pulpstar said:
That's what I'm talking aboutBudG said:First poll showing Melenchon ahead of Fillon:
Macron 24%
Le Pen 24%
Melenchon 18%
Fillon 17%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_French_presidential_election,_2017
Head to heads
Melenchon beats Le Pen 57-43 and narrowly loses to Macron 53-47
53-47 head to head can easily be turned around in the TV debate ahead of the final vote, given Melenchon's performance in TV debates so far.
Not sure how Fillon is still at 6.0, though I'm red enough on him at the moment.
Fast approaching squeaky bum time.
It's sad that UK campaigns these days are devoid of this kind of public speaking.
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Not one shot any more. Garcia eagled 16Sunil_Prasannan said:
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZtlg86 said:Wow, the lead is done to one shot. Garcia's done remarkably well to come through those few bad holes just one behind.
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And Garcia's putting demons come back to haunt him.0
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Never said it was but I have a problem with local politicians who know how poor the area is where these people are sent and keep to the PC script.foxinsoxuk said:
I think dispersion of asylum seekers is national policy, rather than local. It dates from 1999. http://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CDP-2016-0095Tykejohnno said:
Exactly - I didn't even know bradford was a Sanctuary city,down to the useless politicians we elect in my city.isam said:This is where the migrants are sent... & when the existing population complain they're called racist. Wonder why they stuck two fingers up last June
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Though in a country of 67 million he will need rather more than that to winBudG said:
Over a quarter a million views, not bad going.HYUFD said:
He shares Castro's ability to rouse the masses as well as most of his policy programme then!williamglenn said:
Just look at the crowds Melenchon is pulling in. This was him today in Marseille.Casino_Royale said:
I'm the same. And now very red on both Fillon and Le Pen.Pulpstar said:
Macron-Melenchon is the dream.BudG said:
Melenchon is the one that will give Macron the toughest fight in the final round, if he gets through.Cyan said:
And Poutou is up to 2.5%. Perhaps some polls will soon have Mélenchon in second place. He's certainly got some momentum.BudG said:
Melenchon on 6 from the Kantar Sofres previous poll. Le Pen and Macron both down 2 and Fillon stagnant.Pulpstar said:
That's what I'm talking aboutBudG said:First poll showing Melenchon ahead of Fillon:
Macron 24%
Le Pen 24%
Melenchon 18%
Fillon 17%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_French_presidential_election,_2017
Head to heads
Melenchon beats Le Pen 57-43 and narrowly loses to Macron 53-47
53-47 head to head can easily be turned around in the TV debate ahead of the final vote, given Melenchon's performance in TV debates so far.
Not sure how Fillon is still at 6.0, though I'm red enough on him at the moment.
Fast approaching squeaky bum time.
It's sad that UK campaigns these days are devoid of this kind of public speaking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrjWwsV4zS40 -
If Sergio doesn't win today, I doubt he'll come this close again in a major.0
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There are already airstrikes against ISIS in both Iraq and Syria by the US and the Egyptians are already heavily bombing ISIS in LibyaSunil_Prasannan said:
Why not air stikes against IS?Tim_B said:
The US press has been broadly supportive of Trump's decision to launch air strikes against Syria.Sunil_Prasannan said:What's the American response to the suicide bombings in Egypt? Air strikes against IS?
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YaaaaaawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnTim_B said:
Not one shot any more. Garcia eagled 16Sunil_Prasannan said:
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZtlg86 said:Wow, the lead is done to one shot. Garcia's done remarkably well to come through those few bad holes just one behind.
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It's his head, not his game, that is the issue . This is what he said in 2012 at The Masters...HYUFD said:
Who knows, there are still 3 more this yearTim_B said:If Sergio doesn't win today, I doubt he'll come this close again in a major.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1136856-sergio-garcia-says-hes-not-good-enough-to-win-major0 -
Scotland is part of the Anglosphere, Divvie!Theuniondivvie said:
Remember - English is the best language in the world!0 -
Now it's one again....Sunil_Prasannan said:
YaaaaaawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnTim_B said:
Not one shot any more. Garcia eagled 16Sunil_Prasannan said:
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZtlg86 said:Wow, the lead is done to one shot. Garcia's done remarkably well to come through those few bad holes just one behind.
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Really??? You do surprise me!!HYUFD said:
Though in a country of 67 million he will need rather more than that to winBudG said:
Over a quarter a million views, not bad going.HYUFD said:
He shares Castro's ability to rouse the masses as well as most of his policy programme then!williamglenn said:
Just look at the crowds Melenchon is pulling in. This was him today in Marseille.Casino_Royale said:
I'm the same. And now very red on both Fillon and Le Pen.Pulpstar said:
Macron-Melenchon is the dream.BudG said:
Melenchon is the one that will give Macron the toughest fight in the final round, if he gets through.Cyan said:
And Poutou is up to 2.5%. Perhaps some polls will soon have Mélenchon in second place. He's certainly got some momentum.BudG said:
Melenchon on 6 from the Kantar Sofres previous poll. Le Pen and Macron both down 2 and Fillon stagnant.Pulpstar said:
That's what I'm talking aboutBudG said:First poll showing Melenchon ahead of Fillon:
Macron 24%
Le Pen 24%
Melenchon 18%
Fillon 17%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_French_presidential_election,_2017
Head to heads
Melenchon beats Le Pen 57-43 and narrowly loses to Macron 53-47
53-47 head to head can easily be turned around in the TV debate ahead of the final vote, given Melenchon's performance in TV debates so far.
Not sure how Fillon is still at 6.0, though I'm red enough on him at the moment.
Fast approaching squeaky bum time.
It's sad that UK campaigns these days are devoid of this kind of public speaking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrjWwsV4zS4
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All square to 18.0
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All square going to the final hole, we will soon find out, though I agree my head says Rose and my heart Garcia. Rose, the 2013 US Open winner, already has a majorTim_B said:
It's his head, not his game, that is the issue . This is what he said in 2012 at The Masters...HYUFD said:
Who knows, there are still 3 more this yearTim_B said:If Sergio doesn't win today, I doubt he'll come this close again in a major.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1136856-sergio-garcia-says-hes-not-good-enough-to-win-major0 -
If there's a playoff they'll play 18, then 10 and 18.0
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Ditto.HYUFD said:
All square going to the final hole, we will soon find out, though I agree my head says Rose and my heart GarciaTim_B said:
It's his head, not his game, that is the issue . This is what he said in 2012 at The Masters...HYUFD said:
Who knows, there are still 3 more this yearTim_B said:If Sergio doesn't win today, I doubt he'll come this close again in a major.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1136856-sergio-garcia-says-hes-not-good-enough-to-win-major0 -
The article claims she is bilingual but I doubt that's true. There was a section of the requirements which say "You Must Have This" and she translated it as "This bit you can ignore if you can't be arsed".kle4 said:
On the basis of that article alone it is hard to see why we wouldn't.Pong said:Calling all brexiteers,
Based on the facts as presented in the article, does anyone actually have a problem with our country granting this young lady a British passport?
http://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/french-born-ipswich-student-denied-british-citizenship-despite-having-british-mother-1-4964524
Do you consider her a different nationality, other than British?
She says “It’s a complete unknown for everybody at the moment."
No it's not. The form listed the requirements in black and white.
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Garcia nailed on
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Sunset is about 8pm tonight. You always try to have major golf tournaments end about 7pm Eastern for TV on Sunday.tlg86 said:
I think I already know the answer, but why do they cut it so fine at Augusta? There isn't that much daylight left.Tim_B said:If there's a playoff they'll play 18, then 10 and 18.
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Thought so.Tim_B said:
Sunset is about 8pm tonight. You always try to have major golf tournaments end about 6pm Eastern for TV on Sunday.tlg86 said:
I think I already know the answer, but why do they cut it so fine at Augusta? There isn't that much daylight left.Tim_B said:If there's a playoff they'll play 18, then 10 and 18.
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I was answering the question of whether we'd consider her to be a different nationality, not whether she had filled out all the form requirements correctly, and if those requirements were reasonable or not.GeoffM said:
The article claims she is bilingual but I doubt that's true. There was a section of the requirements which say "You Must Have This" and she translated it as "This bit you can ignore if you can't be arsed".kle4 said:
On the basis of that article alone it is hard to see why we wouldn't.Pong said:Calling all brexiteers,
Based on the facts as presented in the article, does anyone actually have a problem with our country granting this young lady a British passport?
http://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/french-born-ipswich-student-denied-british-citizenship-despite-having-british-mother-1-4964524
Do you consider her a different nationality, other than British?
She says “It’s a complete unknown for everybody at the moment."
No it's not. The form listed the requirements in black and white.
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Fuck me Sergio!!!!!!!!!!0
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Rose misses, so real chance for Garcia now0
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Rose will be kicking himself tonight, he should have won this.0
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Garcia misses too, playoff0
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FFS, some of us have work in the morning!0
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I really hope Garcia wins, that will haunt him forever if he doesn't.0
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Americans - especially those on the West Coast - are very lucky in this respect. It's late for us in Western Europe, but the early hours of Monday morning further east. If I was in Australia I'd have to use a days holiday for all four majors.Tim_B said:0 -
Yes and you are correct. Pong was asking a stupid and deliberately obtuse question that didn't deserve the dignity of answering directly. You chose to answer it and I agree with your reply. But the question doesn't actually relate to the actual issue - which was my angle.kle4 said:
I was answering the question of whether we'd consider her to be a different nationality, not whether she had filled out all the form requirements correctly, and if those requirements were reasonable or not.GeoffM said:
The article claims she is bilingual but I doubt that's true. There was a section of the requirements which say "You Must Have This" and she translated it as "This bit you can ignore if you can't be arsed".kle4 said:
On the basis of that article alone it is hard to see why we wouldn't.Pong said:Calling all brexiteers,
Based on the facts as presented in the article, does anyone actually have a problem with our country granting this young lady a British passport?
http://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/french-born-ipswich-student-denied-british-citizenship-despite-having-british-mother-1-4964524
Do you consider her a different nationality, other than British?
She says “It’s a complete unknown for everybody at the moment."
No it's not. The form listed the requirements in black and white.0 -
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Although on the West Coast the working day seems to start absurdly early.tlg86 said:Americans - especially those on the West Coast - are very lucky in this respect.
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Shit - Heidi has chosen this moment to want out!0
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I can't believe the tension - there are teeth marks in my toilet seat
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That should be that.0
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Two for it...0
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Viva0
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Told ya!0
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Sergio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!0
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And he only needs one. What a fantastic result 0
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A popular winner.0
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Finally I can go to bed.0
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- and on Seve's 60th.0
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Pretty sure someone will want to blow the bloody señor off tonight.0
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For those in the US on Golf Channel tonight at 9pm is the first of a 3 part special called "Jack!".
I wonder what it's about?0 -
I suspect his fortunes will be better than that......Theuniondivvie said:Pretty sure someone will want to blow the bloody señor off tonight.
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Yes, me too.TheScreamingEagles said:Finally I can go to bed.
It was well worth staying up for though.0 -
YawwwwnnnnnnnnTheScreamingEagles said:Finally I can go to bed.
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He's taking a position in favour of a great revolution against "two extremes": that of the racist extreme right, which sets people of different ethnicities against each other, and that of the market, which turns everything into gold and money.kle4 said:
I'd feel embarrassed to go along to such an event and get so worked up about what is sure to be either tedious pablum we've all heard a million times before, or stirringly delivered but likely silly political posturing and vague nonsense.WilliamGlenn said:Just look at the crowds Melenchon is pulling in. This was him today in Marseille.
It's sad that UK campaigns these days are devoid of this kind of public speaking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrjWwsV4zS4
If the candidate is charismatic and has something genuinely new and interesting to say, while still being more than just talk, I could see the appeal, but how often does that happen?
GO MELENCHON! I am beginning to think that the pollsters are right and that he could wipe the floor with Le Pen in round 2. Macron I think is flimflam, of appeal only to a small part of society, unlikely to get through to round 2, and with little chance of worrying Mélenchon even if he does. As for Fillon, he is even less likely to get through: he's holding his polling percentage using some kind of strange force which will soon disseminate. Mélenchon's opponent in round 2 if he gets through will be more likely to be either Le Pen or Macron - representatives of the "extremes" against which he is positioning himself. And their ceilings could be lower than anticipated. This guy is clearly capable of winning, and is a snip at Betfair at 15.
BF are also offering a Le Pen/Mélenchon runoff at 12.5.
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Morning. Well i'm pleased I didn't wait up to watch the golf, that was a rather late finish! Well done Sergio, always good to see a new name on a Major trophy and the Spaniard is more than deserving of one!0
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In the current political climate that does sound more what people are looking for than Nick Clegg's long lost cousin. And the French have always had a liking for that kind of thing.Cyan said:
He's taking a position in favour of a great revolution against "two extremes": that of the racist extreme right, which sets people of different ethnicities against each other, and that of the market, which turns everything into gold and money.kle4 said:
I'd feel embarrassed to go along to such an event and get so worked up about what is sure to be either tedious pablum we've all heard a million times before, or stirringly delivered but likely silly political posturing and vague nonsense.WilliamGlenn said:Just look at the crowds Melenchon is pulling in. This was him today in Marseille.
It's sad that UK campaigns these days are devoid of this kind of public speaking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrjWwsV4zS4
If the candidate is charismatic and has something genuinely new and interesting to say, while still being more than just talk, I could see the appeal, but how often does that happen?
GO MELENCHON! I am beginning to think that the pollsters are right and that he could wipe the floor with Le Pen in round 2. Macron I think is flimflam, of appeal only to a small part of society, unlikely to get through to round 2, and with little chance of worrying Mélenchon even if he does. As for Fillon, he is even less likely to get through: he's holding his polling percentage using some kind of strange force which will soon disseminate. Mélenchon's opponent in round 2 if he gets through will be more likely to be either Le Pen or Macron - representatives of the "extremes" against which he is positioning himself. And their ceilings could be lower than anticipated. This guy is clearly capable of winning, and is a snip at Betfair at 15.
BF are also offering a Le Pen/Mélenchon runoff at 12.5.0 -
Can Putin make Jeremy Corbyn Prime Minsietr? Well if he does it will be the greatest comeback since the resurrection of Jesus...and how apt is that a week away from Easter?
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Putin already has his UK win, doesn't he? Corbyn is just a useful idiot.0
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Yes, the EU is weakened, which is his aim. However he hasn't had sanctions lifted against him, and that has to be his main aim.SouthamObserver said:Putin already has his UK win, doesn't he? Corbyn is just a useful idiot.
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How does someone deserve a major win other than by winning a major?Sandpit said:Morning. Well i'm pleased I didn't wait up to watch the golf, that was a rather late finish! Well done Sergio, always good to see a new name on a Major trophy and the Spaniard is more than deserving of one!
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Think of it as a sort of Lifetime Achievement Award, perhaps.DecrepitJohnL said:
How does someone deserve a major win other than by winning a major?Sandpit said:Morning. Well i'm pleased I didn't wait up to watch the golf, that was a rather late finish! Well done Sergio, always good to see a new name on a Major trophy and the Spaniard is more than deserving of one!
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Ha, good pointDecrepitJohnL said:
How does someone deserve a major win other than by winning a major?Sandpit said:Morning. Well i'm pleased I didn't wait up to watch the golf, that was a rather late finish! Well done Sergio, always good to see a new name on a Major trophy and the Spaniard is more than deserving of one!
He was certainly one of the top players never to have won a big one, but as you suggest at that level it's much more the mental strength required to close out a win under the pressure of a big event.
The same is true of many sports of course, they all have their great players who have inexplicably gone their whole career without winning the biggest title in their sport.0 -
If I read one more article that starts along these lines, I'm going to scream:
"Last year’s EU referendum result was a big surprise..."
(http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-will-never-happen-article-50-theresa-may-remoaners-expert-leave-eu-a7674596.html)
IMHO, it was NOT a surprise to anyone who had knock on doors for politics in previous few years or who actually spoken to people who didn't live in London. Plenty of us on PB knew it was lost and bet accordingly.
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Some of those odds on the day, delicious.rottenborough said:If I read one more article that starts along these lines, I'm going to scream:
"Last year’s EU referendum result was a big surprise..."
(http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-will-never-happen-article-50-theresa-may-remoaners-expert-leave-eu-a7674596.html)
IMHO, it was NOT a surprise to anyone who had knock on doors for politics in previous few years or who actually spoken to people who didn't live in London. Plenty of us on PB knew it was lost and bet accordingly.0
