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I hate to say it but I think I agree.. He is a luxury we can no longer affordtlg86 said:
Well, I won't be too bothered if that particular Muslim leaves in a few months time!TheScreamingEagles said:
That tweet was a wind up though from @Giroudesquee, to see who would fall for it0 -
Another terrorist attack that touched him personally, of course.Tim_B said:
I'm aware of that - just don't see the relevance to his actions today.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Hi brother was killed in Bali, 2002.Tim_B said:
Tobias Ellwood - a Thomas Hardy name if ever there was one - above and beyond the call. What a guy!Richard_Nabavi said:Going back to more sombre matters, Theresa May's statement was spot on in tone and content, although she was a bit hesitant in delivery to start with.
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I did read War and Peace many years ago. In spite of its length I recall it being an easy read, thanks to strong narrative, so you always want to know what happens next. Tolstoy clearly loved his characters who are mostly very believable and human. His philosophy can be very random however.
Nice to chat about literature on this day of grim murder.0 -
You mean... TSE fell for a troll?!isam said:0 -
Still Scotland 1, Canada 1.0
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Churchillian stuff from May tonight.
She was clearly both nervous and emotional in its delivery. Understandably so.0 -
Yeah he has. Not a lot, but he has definitely been quoted, and his video statement was shown. I don't know what all the fuss is about.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I have been watching Sky virtually since the first news of the attack and he has not featured at all as far as I am awareParistonda said:
What is your accusation exactly? Do you think Khan is sitting at home with his feet up playing fruit ninja? He is likely very busy behind the scenes, just like May. Him and Theresa have both released one statement each so far.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Do not be ridiculous - Khan is mayor and is virtually invisible - Boris would have been fronting the media as expected by everyonesurbiton said:
Is there a gold medal for these ? This is pathetic.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Boris would have been much more pro-activesurbiton said:
He was on TV at least one hour if not more before. I don't think you would be writing this unless his name was Khan.Alanbrooke said:LOL
as I post la Theresa appears
no sign of the Invisible Khan
He has released a statement, he will release further in due course. What do you want him to say now, that hasn't already been said?0 -
Dickens churned out his prose as though he knew he would be responsible for the employment of generations of English character actors.0
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SKY just said the officer was male.Tim_B said:Iain Duncan Smith saying the police officer killed was female.
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It is indeedScrapheap_as_was said:
Don't know about that, this is moving thoughoxfordsimon said:
Absolutely.Tykejohnno said:One of the bright spots of a very sad day for me was the actions of Tobias Ellwood.
It is the sort of thing that deserves official recognition
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Oh I am not saying that! I think he was reporting someone else falling for itTheWhiteRabbit said:
You mean... TSE fell for a troll?!isam said:
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First C4 cock-up and now the I changing their digital front-page which was too much for some - having seen the full photo, I'm not surprised... poor judgement again.0
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Why do I EVER bother watching England football matches on ITV?0
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What was the problem with their front page?Scrapheap_as_was said:First C4 cock-up and now the I changing their digital front-page which was too much for some - having seen the full photo, I'm not surprised... poor judgement again.
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I am sure Simon Callow and Miriam Margolyes are very grateful!frpenkridge said:Dickens churned out his prose as though he knew he would be responsible for the employment of generations of English character actors.
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The attack is barely noticeable on the C4 News website!Scrapheap_as_was said:First C4 cock-up and now the I changing their digital front-page which was too much for some - having seen the full photo, I'm not surprised... poor judgement again.
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He invented the form which makes SeanT's dosh. The Woman in White and The Moonstone are absolutely top-notch. Also, I have a soft spot for Armadale, which has a completely ridiculous and complicated plot, but which is redeemed by the superb long central section which is very simple: the evil but beautiful Miss Gwilt trying to trap the innocent Allan Armadale into marriage.MarqueeMark said:The "Victorian stuff" I do love is Wilkie Collins. He scandalised society at the time. I suspect he would have been quite a soul-mate with our own SeanT.
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They are redoing it currently. New front page is still to be released.TwistedFireStopper said:
The attack is barely noticeable on the C4 News website!Scrapheap_as_was said:First C4 cock-up and now the I changing their digital front-page which was too much for some - having seen the full photo, I'm not surprised... poor judgement again.
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"Let us go forward together"Casino_Royale said:Churchillian stuff from May tonight.
She was clearly both nervous and emotional in its delivery. Understandably so.0 -
I cannot say that I have heard of him. Maybe he is SeanT?MarqueeMark said:
The "Victorian stuff" I do love is Wilkie Collins. He scandalised society at the time. I suspect he would have been quite a soul-mate with our own SeanT.Beverley_C said:
I agree about the Victorian stuff. I had an English teacher who loved Dickens and Hardy. I came the loathe The Trumpet Major which was inflicted on me for O-Level.oxfordsimon said:
I find a lot of Victorian novels almost impossible to finish - there is just something about the prose style of Dickens, Hardy, Trollope etc. that I don't enjoy.
I do, however, love a good adaptation - whether it is for radio, stage or screen.
French and Russian literature from the same period, on the other hand, is something I can enjoy (as long as it is in a good translation)
No rhyme or reason for this - other than, perhaps, being forced through Far from the Madding Crowd for O Level. I gave up on that after chapter 23 and relied on the York Notes. Didn't stop me getting an A!!
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International football is largely a waste of time.MarqueeMark said:Why do I EVER bother watching England football matches on ITV?
Too many games, too many friendlies, too many countries.
It should purely be an end of season/summer sport and they should cut to the chase.0 -
If you've seen the Reuters photos which are horrific, they had one of the victims on the bridge zoomed in to just showing his one leg and distinctive black shoe along with a pool of blood. IAndyJS said:
What was the problem with their front page?Scrapheap_as_was said:First C4 cock-up and now the I changing their digital front-page which was too much for some - having seen the full photo, I'm not surprised... poor judgement again.
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If I wanted to sell Macron I'd do it at Betfair at 1.55. The only friendly bet I've had on the election is for €20 with a French pal, on NDA scoring more than double his 2012 score of 1.8%.Pulpstar said:
How much are you offering at 2.2 ?Cyan said:
If Fillon gets walloped by scandal - so far he has been fairly resilient but his troubles are mounting - then some of his poll score could go to Dupont-Aignan, who would then be a phenomenon and who is already almost on the brink of becoming such. (Le Figaro.)david_herdson said:
To an extent, but if you think that Macron's odds are too short (as you imply), you have to offer a credible scenario by which he loses, commensurate with the odds you think would be fair. Where and why are the votes going to go somewhere else?Cyan said:
This isn't a general election.rcs1000 said:
Generals != Primaries
The first round in the French presidential whittles the candidates down to two in an open vote. It does for the whole spectrum what the party primaries did for parts of it.
If Macron then screws up or is outplayed in one or both of the TV debates, he might not get into the second round. Le Pen tried to own the first debate using a Netanyahu-style graph stunt which wasn't too successful, but that doesn't mean it won't be next time. We might get a bunch-up for almost equal-second place. If Macron does make it to the second round I wouldn't fancy his chances in the interround debate: he might rise to the occasion, but he could also be even more nervous than he was last time and crash out.
I have started to read Dupont-Aignan's book about his first 100 days as president (!). His brand image is very much as "Mr Clean".
And whereas the fact the Le Pen is a woman and the other leading candidates are men hasn't been relevant for most people, I am not sure that it isn't much more relevant when viewed from Moscow.
Fair odds for Macron? 2.2 maybe?
PS Note to Le Pen: use bigger type, thicker lines, and a bigger piece of card.
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He was actually. Florida. He is dead now so if you do run across him then the Zombie Apocalypse has startedTim_B said:
Oh dear - I hope he's not in the southeast - I would not want to run across him.Beverley_C said:
Oh he survived fine, the b*****d. He tossed us all out, sold the house and she did something similar with her husband and they took the money and sodded off to the US. I never saw him again.Tim_B said:I hope his putter survived, unless he lost his drive. Golf is the antithesis of sex - in golf you want to get your balls in the hole with the minimum number of strokes. Sex - not so much. I do hope he had a carbon fiber shaft for flexibility.
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I don't see the problem with that evocative photo myself.Scrapheap_as_was said:
If you've seen the Reuters photos which are horrific, they had one of the victims on the bridge zoomed in to just showing his one leg and distinctive black shoe along with a pool of blood. IAndyJS said:
What was the problem with their front page?Scrapheap_as_was said:First C4 cock-up and now the I changing their digital front-page which was too much for some - having seen the full photo, I'm not surprised... poor judgement again.
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Interesting that Tynwald is derived from Norse rather than Manx and means "meeting place" as distinct from Parliament (talking shop) or Senate (old folks' home).Sunil_Prasannan said:
"In 1979, the Manx people celebrated the millennium of their parliament, although there is no evidence that suggests such an assembly was held in 979, or that any such event resembled the modern-day court.[5] In fact, the first record of the place-name occurs in the mid 13th century Chronicle of Mann, and the first description of the role and composition of an assembly held on-site occurs in the early 15th century.[6]"ydoethur said:The World's Oldest Parliament.
I wonder if the Tynwald will decide to be magnanimous and let that pass under the circumstances.
Channel 4 news, what a bunch of muppets.
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It was something of a life-changing moment. It was a long time ago and I sort of forgave him 25 years later when I heard of his death.Alanbrooke said:oooh Mrs C
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It's certainly powerful but like the former i editor was saying he'd use the photo of ellwood and the emergency services trying to say the policeman.TheWhiteRabbit said:
I don't see the problem with that evocative photo myself.Scrapheap_as_was said:
If you've seen the Reuters photos which are horrific, they had one of the victims on the bridge zoomed in to just showing his one leg and distinctive black shoe along with a pool of blood. IAndyJS said:
What was the problem with their front page?Scrapheap_as_was said:First C4 cock-up and now the I changing their digital front-page which was too much for some - having seen the full photo, I'm not surprised... poor judgement again.
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IDS just was trying to make some news. Looks like there is a competition going on. Who can say what and fast !Sunil_Prasannan said:
SKY just said the officer was male.Tim_B said:Iain Duncan Smith saying the police officer killed was female.
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Famous book.. The Woman in WhiteBeverley_C said:
I cannot say that I have heard of him. Maybe he is SeanT?MarqueeMark said:
The "Victorian stuff" I do love is Wilkie Collins. He scandalised society at the time. I suspect he would have been quite a soul-mate with our own SeanT.Beverley_C said:
I agree about the Victorian stuff. I had an English teacher who loved Dickens and Hardy. I came the loathe The Trumpet Major which was inflicted on me for O-Level.oxfordsimon said:
I find a lot of Victorian novels almost impossible to finish - there is just something about the prose style of Dickens, Hardy, Trollope etc. that I don't enjoy.
I do, however, love a good adaptation - whether it is for radio, stage or screen.
French and Russian literature from the same period, on the other hand, is something I can enjoy (as long as it is in a good translation)
No rhyme or reason for this - other than, perhaps, being forced through Far from the Madding Crowd for O Level. I gave up on that after chapter 23 and relied on the York Notes. Didn't stop me getting an A!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Woman_in_White_(novel)0 -
That is so disgusting. It illustrates the frothing-at-the-mouth extent to which "London" and "Westminster" are such bad words for some SNPers.The_Taxman said:Shock moment SNP politician MOANS about terror attack delaying Scottish independence vote:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/782658/london-terror-atack-snp-minister-meltdown-holyrood-suspension0 -
It would have improved it no endSandyRentool said:
Add an S at the start of the second word, and it would be a totally different story...Beverley_C said:
I agree about the Victorian stuff. I had an English teacher who loved Dickens and Hardy. I came the loathe The Trumpet Major which was inflicted on me for O-Level.oxfordsimon said:
I find a lot of Victorian novels almost impossible to finish - there is just something about the prose style of Dickens, Hardy, Trollope etc. that I don't enjoy.
I do, however, love a good adaptation - whether it is for radio, stage or screen.
French and Russian literature from the same period, on the other hand, is something I can enjoy (as long as it is in a good translation)
No rhyme or reason for this - other than, perhaps, being forced through Far from the Madding Crowd for O Level. I gave up on that after chapter 23 and relied on the York Notes. Didn't stop me getting an A!!
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I thought Shogun was way too long. I much preferred Noble House.0
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That is unfair. I suspect IDS just mixed up 2 news reports - one about a female victim and the second about a police death. Given that they didn't have full media access during their lockdown, a certain amount of confusion can be forgiven.surbiton said:
IDS just was trying to make some news. Looks like there is a competition going on. Who can say what and fast !Sunil_Prasannan said:
SKY just said the officer was male.Tim_B said:Iain Duncan Smith saying the police officer killed was female.
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The love story was far better in Shogun.SouthamObserver said:I thought Shogun was way too long. I much preferred Noble House.
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TV adaptation being filmed in Belfast at this very moment.SquareRoot said:
Famous book.. The Woman in WhiteBeverley_C said:
I cannot say that I have heard of him. Maybe he is SeanT?MarqueeMark said:
The "Victorian stuff" I do love is Wilkie Collins. He scandalised society at the time. I suspect he would have been quite a soul-mate with our own SeanT.Beverley_C said:
I agree about the Victorian stuff. I had an English teacher who loved Dickens and Hardy. I came the loathe The Trumpet Major which was inflicted on me for O-Level.oxfordsimon said:
I find a lot of Victorian novels almost impossible to finish - there is just something about the prose style of Dickens, Hardy, Trollope etc. that I don't enjoy.
I do, however, love a good adaptation - whether it is for radio, stage or screen.
French and Russian literature from the same period, on the other hand, is something I can enjoy (as long as it is in a good translation)
No rhyme or reason for this - other than, perhaps, being forced through Far from the Madding Crowd for O Level. I gave up on that after chapter 23 and relied on the York Notes. Didn't stop me getting an A!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Woman_in_White_(novel)0 -
In these circumstances I assume the security services' greatest fear is grandstanding politicos muscling in where they don't belong. A decent reticence by both Khan and May has been noted and greatly appreciated.TwistedFireStopper said:
Yeah he has. Not a lot, but he has definitely been quoted, and his video statement was shown. I don't know what all the fuss is about.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I have been watching Sky virtually since the first news of the attack and he has not featured at all as far as I am awareParistonda said:
What is your accusation exactly? Do you think Khan is sitting at home with his feet up playing fruit ninja? He is likely very busy behind the scenes, just like May. Him and Theresa have both released one statement each so far.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Do not be ridiculous - Khan is mayor and is virtually invisible - Boris would have been fronting the media as expected by everyonesurbiton said:
Is there a gold medal for these ? This is pathetic.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Boris would have been much more pro-activesurbiton said:
He was on TV at least one hour if not more before. I don't think you would be writing this unless his name was Khan.Alanbrooke said:LOL
as I post la Theresa appears
no sign of the Invisible Khan
He has released a statement, he will release further in due course. What do you want him to say now, that hasn't already been said?0 -
oh give it a restsurbiton said:
IDS just was trying to make some news. Looks like there is a competition going on. Who can say what and fast !Sunil_Prasannan said:
SKY just said the officer was male.Tim_B said:Iain Duncan Smith saying the police officer killed was female.
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Sure is!SouthamObserver said:
Many of the initial reports said the attacker was Asian and a lot of twitter comments were based around that. Shows, once again, that it's always best to wait.SeanT said:0 -
So Britain, get your head around this. The police officer killed, whilst policing around a high value location was reportedly unarmed.0
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it's UK policyY0kel said:So Britain, get your head around this. The police officer killed, whilst policing around a high value location was reportedly unarmed.
our aircraft carriers are the same0 -
Lindsay Hoyle actually acts like the Speaker0
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I'd probably give the credit to James Hogg's Confessions of a Justified Sinner, which is the earliest psychological/supernatural thriller I can think of (published in 1816). It's a remarkably modern story.Richard_Nabavi said:
He invented the form which makes SeanT's dosh. The Woman in White and The Moonstone are absolutely top-notch. Also, I have a soft spot for Armadale, which has a completely ridiculous and complicated plot, but which is redeemed by the superb long central section which is very simple: the evil but beautiful Miss Gwilt trying to trap the innocent Allan Armadale into marriage.MarqueeMark said:The "Victorian stuff" I do love is Wilkie Collins. He scandalised society at the time. I suspect he would have been quite a soul-mate with our own SeanT.
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A mere flesh wound. I think we had an 11 year gap under Charles 1, didn't we?Sunil_Prasannan said:
Except there was no Althing between 1800 and 1845Ishmael_Z said:
Icelandic Althing 930 beats all contenders. The coolest thing about the isle of man is that they call their judges Deemsters.ydoethur said:
Mid twelfth century is still older than the first post-conquest Parliament (1265).Sunil_Prasannan said:
"In 1979, the Manx people celebrated the millennium of their parliament, although there is no evidence that suggests such an assembly was held in 979, or that any such event resembled the modern-day court.[5] In fact, the first record of the place-name occurs in the mid 13th century Chronicle of Mann, and the first description of the role and composition of an assembly held on-site occurs in the early 15th century.[6]"ydoethur said:The World's Oldest Parliament.
I wonder if the Tynwald will decide to be magnanimous and let that pass under the circumstances.
Channel 4 news, what a bunch of muppets.
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No. 617 Squadron has 12 aircraft. The first carrier hasn't gone to sea yet.Alanbrooke said:
it's UK policyY0kel said:So Britain, get your head around this. The police officer killed, whilst policing around a high value location was reportedly unarmed.
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Alternatively, some dimwit with a car and a knife thinks he will succeed where the IRA and Luftwaffe have failed.Y0kel said:So Britain, get your head around this. The police officer killed, whilst policing around a high value location was reportedly unarmed.
Not so much terrorist as tosserist.0 -
Shogun gave us the Japanese lord who composes Haiku, while listening to the screams of a man being boiled alive.SouthamObserver said:I thought Shogun was way too long. I much preferred Noble House.
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He certainly handled things today with an avuncular charm. Bercow would have made it all about him.Alanbrooke said:Lindsay Hoyle actually acts like the Speaker
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I don't believe that every officer in and around the Parliamentary Estate should be armed as a matter of course.Y0kel said:So Britain, get your head around this. The police officer killed, whilst policing around a high value location was reportedly unarmed.
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Funny, the Express missed out the LibDem Mike Rumbles telling beeb scotland that it was a mistake to suspend the sitting.Cyan said:
That is so disgusting. It illustrates the frothing-at-the-mouth extent to which "London" and "Westminster" are such bad words for some SNPers.The_Taxman said:Shock moment SNP politician MOANS about terror attack delaying Scottish independence vote:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/782658/london-terror-atack-snp-minister-meltdown-holyrood-suspension0 -
I've got a special memorial coin from that occasion from some relatives who attended it.Sunil_Prasannan said:
"In 1979, the Manx people celebrated the millennium of their parliament, although there is no evidence that suggests such an assembly was held in 979, or that any such event resembled the modern-day court.[5] In fact, the first record of the place-name occurs in the mid 13th century Chronicle of Mann, and the first description of the role and composition of an assembly held on-site occurs in the early 15th century.[6]"ydoethur said:The World's Oldest Parliament.
I wonder if the Tynwald will decide to be magnanimous and let that pass under the circumstances.
Channel 4 news, what a bunch of muppets.
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I'd say that he or she is/was a criminal. Isn't that enough for now?Sunil_Prasannan said:
Would you say the terrorist in Westminster was an Islamist or a Brexiteer?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
To be fair, those who did not want the suspension was of the opinion that such an act would mean bowing to terrorism. You can always read these acts in two ways.OUT said:
Funny, the Express missed out the LibDem Mike Rumbles telling beeb scotland that it was a mistake to suspend the sitting.Cyan said:
That is so disgusting. It illustrates the frothing-at-the-mouth extent to which "London" and "Westminster" are such bad words for some SNPers.The_Taxman said:Shock moment SNP politician MOANS about terror attack delaying Scottish independence vote:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/782658/london-terror-atack-snp-minister-meltdown-holyrood-suspension0 -
The Moonstone was arguably the first detective story. Also unusual in having three main narrators who pass the baton.Beverley_C said:
I cannot say that I have heard of him. Maybe he is SeanT?MarqueeMark said:
The "Victorian stuff" I do love is Wilkie Collins. He scandalised society at the time. I suspect he would have been quite a soul-mate with our own SeanT.Beverley_C said:
I agree about the Victorian stuff. I had an English teacher who loved Dickens and Hardy. I came the loathe The Trumpet Major which was inflicted on me for O-Level.oxfordsimon said:
I find a lot of Victorian novels almost impossible to finish - there is just something about the prose style of Dickens, Hardy, Trollope etc. that I don't enjoy.
I do, however, love a good adaptation - whether it is for radio, stage or screen.
French and Russian literature from the same period, on the other hand, is something I can enjoy (as long as it is in a good translation)
No rhyme or reason for this - other than, perhaps, being forced through Far from the Madding Crowd for O Level. I gave up on that after chapter 23 and relied on the York Notes. Didn't stop me getting an A!!
And then there's Armadale....0 -
There is a difference between describing things as a mistake and going off on a rant.OUT said:
Funny, the Express missed out the LibDem Mike Rumbles telling beeb scotland that it was a mistake to suspend the sitting.Cyan said:
That is so disgusting. It illustrates the frothing-at-the-mouth extent to which "London" and "Westminster" are such bad words for some SNPers.The_Taxman said:Shock moment SNP politician MOANS about terror attack delaying Scottish independence vote:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/782658/london-terror-atack-snp-minister-meltdown-holyrood-suspension0 -
It was so long I just didn't care in the end.Beverley_C said:
The love story was far better in Shogun.SouthamObserver said:I thought Shogun was way too long. I much preferred Noble House.
Noble House's sense of time and place was superb: colonial Hong Kong before it got safe, clean and air conditioned; the cold war; and the unbridgeable divide between the westerners and the Chinese. Great stuff.
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ITV reporting from one hospital which has 8 casualties but also said there are a further 33 at another hospital0
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I retead the Woman in White quite recently. It's amazing how modern it feels. Definitely not strait-laced Victorian. Agree on the Moonstone, too; a brilliant read.Richard_Nabavi said:
He invented the form which makes SeanT's dosh. The Woman in White and The Moonstone are absolutely top-notch. Also, I have a soft spot for Armadale, which has a completely ridiculous and complicated plot, but which is redeemed by the superb long central section which is very simple: the evil but beautiful Miss Gwilt trying to trap the innocent Allan Armadale into marriage.MarqueeMark said:The "Victorian stuff" I do love is Wilkie Collins. He scandalised society at the time. I suspect he would have been quite a soul-mate with our own SeanT.
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Yes. Most of the plot lines were good, but Casey and Linc and Ian did not quite work and Quillan Gornt was an unmitigated ass.SouthamObserver said:
It was so long I just didn't care in the end.Beverley_C said:
The love story was far better in Shogun.SouthamObserver said:I thought Shogun was way too long. I much preferred Noble House.
Noble House's sense of time and place was superb: colonial Hong Kong before it got safe, clean and air conditioned; the cold war; and the unbridgeable divide between the westerners and the Chinese. Great stuff.
Moving on from there Gai-Jin was soporific. A great book for sleepless nights. As an insominia cure it has no equal. 0 -
I will see if it has a kindle version. Thank youMarqueeMark said:
The Moonstone was arguably the first detective story. Also unusual in having three main narrators who pass the baton.Beverley_C said:
I cannot say that I have heard of him. Maybe he is SeanT?MarqueeMark said:
The "Victorian stuff" I do love is Wilkie Collins. He scandalised society at the time. I suspect he would have been quite a soul-mate with our own SeanT.Beverley_C said:
I agree about the Victorian stuff. I had an English teacher who loved Dickens and Hardy. I came the loathe The Trumpet Major which was inflicted on me for O-Level.oxfordsimon said:
I find a lot of Victorian novels almost impossible to finish - there is just something about the prose style of Dickens, Hardy, Trollope etc. that I don't enjoy.
I do, however, love a good adaptation - whether it is for radio, stage or screen.
French and Russian literature from the same period, on the other hand, is something I can enjoy (as long as it is in a good translation)
No rhyme or reason for this - other than, perhaps, being forced through Far from the Madding Crowd for O Level. I gave up on that after chapter 23 and relied on the York Notes. Didn't stop me getting an A!!
And then there's Armadale.... 0 -
Scotland Yard: 5 fatalities, 40 injured.0
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5 dead, including terrorist0
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Twenty armed officers around that unarmed officer. The question is whether that one unarmed officer thought that today would be the day that the attack came. And what he or she was trained to think.Y0kel said:So Britain, get your head around this. The police officer killed, whilst policing around a high value location was reportedly unarmed.
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Chief slapped down unnecessary reporting0
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Police confirm they believe they know identity of terrorist.
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There's a difference between swallowing hook, line & sinker an Express description of an event & trying to work out the actualité, but each to their own.oxfordsimon said:
There is a difference between describing things as a mistake and going off on a rant.OUT said:
Funny, the Express missed out the LibDem Mike Rumbles telling beeb scotland that it was a mistake to suspend the sitting.Cyan said:
That is so disgusting. It illustrates the frothing-at-the-mouth extent to which "London" and "Westminster" are such bad words for some SNPers.The_Taxman said:Shock moment SNP politician MOANS about terror attack delaying Scottish independence vote:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/782658/london-terror-atack-snp-minister-meltdown-holyrood-suspension0 -
Given how far out of copyright it is, there should be plenty of options!Beverley_C said:
I will see if it has a kindle version. Thank youMarqueeMark said:
The Moonstone was arguably the first detective story. Also unusual in having three main narrators who pass the baton.Beverley_C said:
I cannot say that I have heard of him. Maybe he is SeanT?MarqueeMark said:
The "Victorian stuff" I do love is Wilkie Collins. He scandalised society at the time. I suspect he would have been quite a soul-mate with our own SeanT.Beverley_C said:
I agree about the Victorian stuff. I had an English teacher who loved Dickens and Hardy. I came the loathe The Trumpet Major which was inflicted on me for O-Level.oxfordsimon said:
I find a lot of Victorian novels almost impossible to finish - there is just something about the prose style of Dickens, Hardy, Trollope etc. that I don't enjoy.
I do, however, love a good adaptation - whether it is for radio, stage or screen.
French and Russian literature from the same period, on the other hand, is something I can enjoy (as long as it is in a good translation)
No rhyme or reason for this - other than, perhaps, being forced through Far from the Madding Crowd for O Level. I gave up on that after chapter 23 and relied on the York Notes. Didn't stop me getting an A!!
And then there's Armadale....0 -
The Woman In White is superior to The Moonstone.0
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And your mistake is to assume that I actually relied on the Express report - rather than looking at a range of sources over the course of this afternoon and evening to gain an overall picture of what happened.Theuniondivvie said:
There's a difference between swallowing hook, line & sinker an Express description of an event & trying to work out the actualité, but each to their own.oxfordsimon said:
There is a difference between describing things as a mistake and going off on a rant.OUT said:
Funny, the Express missed out the LibDem Mike Rumbles telling beeb scotland that it was a mistake to suspend the sitting.Cyan said:
That is so disgusting. It illustrates the frothing-at-the-mouth extent to which "London" and "Westminster" are such bad words for some SNPers.The_Taxman said:Shock moment SNP politician MOANS about terror attack delaying Scottish independence vote:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/782658/london-terror-atack-snp-minister-meltdown-holyrood-suspension0 -
We don't know that all the others were - just that some of them were.AndyJS said:
It's a bit odd that he wasn't armed when all the others were. Maybe the attacker deliberately targeted him for that reason.Y0kel said:So Britain, get your head around this. The police officer killed, whilst policing around a high value location was reportedly unarmed.
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Some Police decide not to carry firearms. It's not compulsory.AndyJS said:
It's a bit odd that he wasn't armed when all the others were. Maybe the attacker deliberately targeted him for that reason.Y0kel said:So Britain, get your head around this. The police officer killed, whilst policing around a high value location was reportedly unarmed.
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'looking at a range of sources over the course of this afternoon and evening to gain an overall picture of what happened.'oxfordsimon said:
And your mistake is to assume that I actually relied on the Express report - rather than looking at a range of sources over the course of this afternoon and evening to gain an overall picture of what happened.Theuniondivvie said:
There's a difference between swallowing hook, line & sinker an Express description of an event & trying to work out the actualité, but each to their own.oxfordsimon said:
There is a difference between describing things as a mistake and going off on a rant.OUT said:
Funny, the Express missed out the LibDem Mike Rumbles telling beeb scotland that it was a mistake to suspend the sitting.Cyan said:
That is so disgusting. It illustrates the frothing-at-the-mouth extent to which "London" and "Westminster" are such bad words for some SNPers.The_Taxman said:Shock moment SNP politician MOANS about terror attack delaying Scottish independence vote:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/782658/london-terror-atack-snp-minister-meltdown-holyrood-suspension
Lol.
Haud back on the pompous pills, chief.0 -
Aren't we meant to carry on as if nothing has happened to show how tough we are and they will never beat us?
I think that's bullshit and make Her Maj right btw
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Ah - reverting to personal attack. Classy.Theuniondivvie said:
'looking at a range of sources over the course of this afternoon and evening to gain an overall picture of what happened.'oxfordsimon said:
And your mistake is to assume that I actually relied on the Express report - rather than looking at a range of sources over the course of this afternoon and evening to gain an overall picture of what happened.Theuniondivvie said:
There's a difference between swallowing hook, line & sinker an Express description of an event & trying to work out the actualité, but each to their own.oxfordsimon said:
There is a difference between describing things as a mistake and going off on a rant.OUT said:
Funny, the Express missed out the LibDem Mike Rumbles telling beeb scotland that it was a mistake to suspend the sitting.Cyan said:
That is so disgusting. It illustrates the frothing-at-the-mouth extent to which "London" and "Westminster" are such bad words for some SNPers.The_Taxman said:Shock moment SNP politician MOANS about terror attack delaying Scottish independence vote:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/782658/london-terror-atack-snp-minister-meltdown-holyrood-suspension
Lol.
Haud back on the pompous pills, chief.0 -
Yes now is not the time for Scotland Yard to get out the Brasso or tidy up their desks.isam said:Aren't we meant to carry on as if nothing has happened to show how tough we are and they will never beat us?
I think that's bullshit and make Her Maj right btw
https://twitter.com/dailymailuk/status/8446681558469550090 -
Absolutely the right decision. We need the Met to focus on the investigation not on a Royal visit that can happen at any time.TOPPING said:
Yes now is not the time for Scotland Yard to get out the Brasso or tidy up their desks.isam said:Aren't we meant to carry on as if nothing has happened to show how tough we are and they will never beat us?
I think that's bullshit and make Her Maj right btw
https://twitter.com/dailymailuk/status/8446681558469550090 -
Thank you for the literature discussion. I preferred it greatly over speculating on the speculation of this depressingly grim day.
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551 valid votes in Labour selection for Gorton
Counting is underway by around an hour0 -
Of course we carry on.isam said:Aren't we meant to carry on as if nothing has happened to show how tough we are and they will never beat us?
I think that's bullshit and make Her Maj right btw
https://twitter.com/dailymailuk/status/844668155846955009
Do we let every sexually repressed stroker get in the way of what we want to do?
Religion breeds them.0 -
Take his advice then.Big_G_NorthWales said:Chief slapped down unnecessary reporting
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Quarter of English state primary schools are 'ethnically segregated'
Segregation levels have fallen in schools in Bradford in West Yorkshire and Oldham in Lancashire, but the report says the problem is increasing in Blackburn in Lancashire, Kirklees in West Yorkshire, the London borough of Barnet and Peterborough in Cambridgeshire.
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/mar/22/english-state-primary-schools-ethnically-segregated-white-british-children0 -
That is unnecessary - I did not name the suspectYorkcity said:
Take his advice then.Big_G_NorthWales said:Chief slapped down unnecessary reporting
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But we're not carrying on as usual are we? Else the Queen would be unveiling this plaque or whatever it is.chestnut said:
Of course we carry on.isam said:Aren't we meant to carry on as if nothing has happened to show how tough we are and they will never beat us?
I think that's bullshit and make Her Maj right btw
https://twitter.com/dailymailuk/status/844668155846955009
Do we let every sexually repressed stroker get in the way of what we want to do?
Religion breeds them.
As I say I make her right0 -
Suspect HM doesn't want to be a distraction during this critical period.isam said:
But we're not carrying on as usual are we? Else the Queen would be unveiling this plaque or whatever it is.chestnut said:
Of course we carry on.isam said:Aren't we meant to carry on as if nothing has happened to show how tough we are and they will never beat us?
I think that's bullshit and make Her Maj right btw
https://twitter.com/dailymailuk/status/844668155846955009
Do we let every sexually repressed stroker get in the way of what we want to do?
Religion breeds them.
As I say I make her right0 -
Never said you did but you are critical of public figures and you have no idea how they are been briefed or what is going on behind the scenes.Big_G_NorthWales said:
That is unnecessary - I did not name the suspectYorkcity said:
Take his advice then.Big_G_NorthWales said:Chief slapped down unnecessary reporting
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Of course she doesn't. And quite right too.RobD said:
Suspect HM doesn't want to be a distraction during this critical period.isam said:
But we're not carrying on as usual are we? Else the Queen would be unveiling this plaque or whatever it is.chestnut said:
Of course we carry on.isam said:Aren't we meant to carry on as if nothing has happened to show how tough we are and they will never beat us?
I think that's bullshit and make Her Maj right btw
https://twitter.com/dailymailuk/status/844668155846955009
Do we let every sexually repressed stroker get in the way of what we want to do?
Religion breeds them.
As I say I make her right0 -
Not just schools but whole area's of our cities/towns,I said this before that I can see my city heading like belfast in segregation.FrancisUrquhart said:Quarter of English state primary schools are 'ethnically segregated'
Segregation levels have fallen in schools in Bradford in West Yorkshire and Oldham in Lancashire, but the report says the problem is increasing in Blackburn in Lancashire, Kirklees in West Yorkshire, the London borough of Barnet and Peterborough in Cambridgeshire.
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/mar/22/english-state-primary-schools-ethnically-segregated-white-british-children0 -
Doesn't look like a room of 500+ people. I have no idea how Labour operates these things - are postal/proxy votes permitted?AndreaParma_82 said:Pic from Gorton Labour selection meeting
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I hope you are not saying that I cannot be critical of public figures when I hear nothing else from most on hereYorkcity said:
Never said you did but you are critical of public figures and you have no idea how they are been briefed or what is going on behind the scenes.Big_G_NorthWales said:
That is unnecessary - I did not name the suspectYorkcity said:
Take his advice then.Big_G_NorthWales said:Chief slapped down unnecessary reporting
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HMQ should adopt the general six letter motto of London towards attackers over the years - "Fuck 'em"isam said:
But we're not carrying on as usual are we? Else the Queen would be unveiling this plaque or whatever it is.chestnut said:
Of course we carry on.isam said:Aren't we meant to carry on as if nothing has happened to show how tough we are and they will never beat us?
I think that's bullshit and make Her Maj right btw
https://twitter.com/dailymailuk/status/844668155846955009
Do we let every sexually repressed stroker get in the way of what we want to do?
Religion breeds them.
As I say I make her right0 -
What's going on? Men and women sat on the same side of the room.AndreaParma_82 said:Pic from Gorton Labour selection meeting
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For by-election selections, postals are not used because of the short timetable. Proxy yes, but being Gorton, they didn't allow them.
We don't see how many lines there are at the back outside the picture frame. And if some stayed outside and entered just to vote....because I suppose many already decided who to vote regardless of speeches.oxfordsimon said:
Doesn't look like a room of 500+ people. I have no idea how Labour operates these things - are postal/proxy votes permitted?AndreaParma_82 said:Pic from Gorton Labour selection meeting
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Unless things have changed, you have to be there to get a vote.oxfordsimon said:
Doesn't look like a room of 500+ people. I have no idea how Labour operates these things - are postal/proxy votes permitted?AndreaParma_82 said:Pic from Gorton Labour selection meeting
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7jKUQSXgAMjKSD.jpg:large0 -
This guy did not wake up this morning and decide to do this. It was thought out, it was planned and others were aware it was coming.
Can't make it more clear than that.0 -
In this scenario you should wait before passing your judgement.You are no expert because you watch sky news all day.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I hope you are not saying that I cannot be critical of public figures when I hear nothing else from most on hereYorkcity said:
Never said you did but you are critical of public figures and you have no idea how they are been briefed or what is going on behind the scenes.Big_G_NorthWales said:
That is unnecessary - I did not name the suspectYorkcity said:
Take his advice then.Big_G_NorthWales said:Chief slapped down unnecessary reporting
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But we have seen that for as long as people can remember. Communities have always grown up in particular parts of our towns and cities. People move to be near their families/friends and so this 'segregation' grows naturally.Tykejohnno said:
Not just schools but whole area's of our cities/towns,I said this before that I can see my city heading like belfast in segregation.FrancisUrquhart said:Quarter of English state primary schools are 'ethnically segregated'
Segregation levels have fallen in schools in Bradford in West Yorkshire and Oldham in Lancashire, but the report says the problem is increasing in Blackburn in Lancashire, Kirklees in West Yorkshire, the London borough of Barnet and Peterborough in Cambridgeshire.
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/mar/22/english-state-primary-schools-ethnically-segregated-white-british-children
What we cannot permit is for this to lead to no-go areas for our public services. The police and social services (to name but two) have to have equal access to all of these communities and for their services to be respected.
We cannot permit is for 'community relations' to be a reason for not upholding the rule of law or the basic standards of human decency.0
