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    PlatoSaid said:

    Floater said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    I thought I'd missed it. Clearly not.

    Paul Joseph Watson

    Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, a city attacked over 5 hours ago, has not appeared once on camera to reassure the public. Where is he?

    I thought he had released some sort of statement?
    He did - hours ago.
    Linky?
    On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours ago
    he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuff

    why isnt he on the telly
    I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.
    maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisis

    he's taking a back seat
    early days surely.
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    MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792

    PlatoSaid said:

    Floater said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    I thought I'd missed it. Clearly not.

    Paul Joseph Watson

    Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, a city attacked over 5 hours ago, has not appeared once on camera to reassure the public. Where is he?

    I thought he had released some sort of statement?
    He did - hours ago.
    Linky?
    On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours ago
    he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuff

    why isnt he on the telly
    We all remember Livingstone's magnificent response to 7/7. Khan hasn't met that standard, for sure..
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,010
    Anyway, I'm off. Let's hope the death toll doesn't rise. Stay safe, Londoners.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,920
    JackW said:

    GIN1138 said:

    JackW said:

    Channel 4 pull their +1 hour coverage ....

    Someone must read PB .... :smile:


    Mike's the man who moves markets and Mr Jack is the man who moves the media! :smiley:
    The only thing Jack moves with alacrity these days are bowel movements after certain medication !!
    Sounds like your ARSE is back in business.... ;)
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195

    A bit of levity.

    Current score in the football is Scotland 0 - Canada 1

    be fair canada are down to nine men
    oh LOOOOOOOL
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    mattmatt Posts: 3,789
    surbiton said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Floater said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    I thought I'd missed it. Clearly not.

    Paul Joseph Watson

    Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, a city attacked over 5 hours ago, has not appeared once on camera to reassure the public. Where is he?

    I thought he had released some sort of statement?
    He did - hours ago.
    Linky?
    On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours ago
    he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuff

    why isnt he on the telly
    I've had Sky on since PMQs - no mention at all
    I thought you normally watched Fox News.
    The truth is a malleable product.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    surbiton said:

    calum said:

    Sky (Kay) reporting police have identified the attacker

    I hope the Police were not watching C4 News.
    Tea all over keyboard
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    GIN1138 said:

    JackW said:

    GIN1138 said:

    JackW said:

    Channel 4 pull their +1 hour coverage ....

    Someone must read PB .... :smile:


    Mike's the man who moves markets and Mr Jack is the man who moves the media! :smiley:
    The only thing Jack moves with alacrity these days are bowel movements after certain medication !!
    Sounds like your ARSE is back in business.... ;)
    In well earned retirement .... :smile:
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    I have never had occasion to look at the Channel 4 news website before, but I see that it doesn't mention the Westminster event at all. Their main story is about Martin McGuinness...
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,977

    PlatoSaid said:

    Floater said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    I thought I'd missed it. Clearly not.

    Paul Joseph Watson

    Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, a city attacked over 5 hours ago, has not appeared once on camera to reassure the public. Where is he?

    I thought he had released some sort of statement?
    He did - hours ago.
    Linky?
    On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours ago
    he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuff

    why isnt he on the telly
    I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.
    maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisis

    he's taking a back seat

    Maybe he is coordinating stuff. Livingstone was in Singapore in 2005. Khan is in the middle of it.
    https://twitter.com/mayoroflondon/status/844631399713947648
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    oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,831

    PlatoSaid said:

    Floater said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    I thought I'd missed it. Clearly not.

    Paul Joseph Watson

    Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, a city attacked over 5 hours ago, has not appeared once on camera to reassure the public. Where is he?

    I thought he had released some sort of statement?
    He did - hours ago.
    Linky?
    On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours ago
    he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuff

    why isnt he on the telly
    We all remember Livingstone's magnificent response to 7/7. Khan hasn't met that standard, for sure..
    I think we have to judge Livingstone's reaction in the light of his more recent comments. Any good he may have done was completely undone by what he said in 2015 (and on other occasions)
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    Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    Omnium said:

    Tim_B said:

    Utterly off-topic aside: just discovered that Graves nicked the 'drills were bloodless battles and battles were bloody drills' line (spoken in I, Claudius by Drusus to Tiberius, describing how the army saw the latter as a commander) from Josephus.

    It has been years since I read "I, Clavdivs". Heavy going though, Mills & Boon it was not :)
    Vol 2 - Claudius the God - is even tougher. I bought the books when the BBC series came out - still not read them both cover to cover in spite of several attempts.
    They're wonderful books. I do think that they're best read with a certain experience of life under your belt though. I'm not sure I'd have liked them if I had read them 10 years prior. I plan to read War and Peace again for roughly those sorts of reasons - I found it hard the first time.
    I have never read "War and Peace" and I have no urge to do so, but I do know of a tale told by Isaac Asimov about it. He (Asimov) was at a dinner next to a guest he did not know and who was working hard at conversation with Asimov (one of IA's self-admitted weak points):

    Guest: How do you think technology will affect the novel? Would War & Peace have been better if Dostoyevsky had had a word processor?

    IA: No. It would have been exactly the same.

    Guest: How can you be so sure of that?

    IA: Because War & Peace was written by Tolstoy.


    End of conversation.....

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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    Tim_B said:

    Utterly off-topic aside: just discovered that Graves nicked the 'drills were bloodless battles and battles were bloody drills' line (spoken in I, Claudius by Drusus to Tiberius, describing how the army saw the latter as a commander) from Josephus.

    It has been years since I read "I, Clavdivs". Heavy going though, Mills & Boon it was not :)
    Vol 2 - Claudius the God - is even tougher. I bought the books when the BBC series came out - still not read them both cover to cover in spite of several attempts.
    I read them both. I think once in a lifetime was enough :)

    I did enjoy them though
    amazon has them both for $1.99 each. But then the Kindle deal of the day the other day was The Ice Twins for $1.99 also.
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    PlatoSaid said:

    Floater said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    I thought I'd missed it. Clearly not.

    Paul Joseph Watson

    Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, a city attacked over 5 hours ago, has not appeared once on camera to reassure the public. Where is he?

    I thought he had released some sort of statement?
    He did - hours ago.
    Linky?
    On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours ago
    he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuff

    why isnt he on the telly
    I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.
    maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisis

    he's taking a back seat
    Calm yourself man.

    There's suggestions he was busy coordinating the response in London.

    Who knew you'd prefer a more PR savvy politician than a politician with substance.
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,763
    edited March 2017

    PlatoSaid said:

    Floater said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    I thought I'd missed it. Clearly not.

    Paul Joseph Watson

    Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, a city attacked over 5 hours ago, has not appeared once on camera to reassure the public. Where is he?

    I thought he had released some sort of statement?
    He did - hours ago.
    Linky?
    On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours ago
    he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuff

    why isnt he on the telly
    I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.
    maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisis

    he's taking a back seat

    Maybe he is coordinating stuff. Livingstone was in Singapore in 2005. Khan is in the middle of it.
    https://twitter.com/mayoroflondon/status/844631399713947648
    he's the invisible man

    Rudolf Giuliani led from the fron in 9/11 even Boris got out early when responding to attacks in Paris

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    oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,831

    Omnium said:

    Tim_B said:

    Utterly off-topic aside: just discovered that Graves nicked the 'drills were bloodless battles and battles were bloody drills' line (spoken in I, Claudius by Drusus to Tiberius, describing how the army saw the latter as a commander) from Josephus.

    It has been years since I read "I, Clavdivs". Heavy going though, Mills & Boon it was not :)
    Vol 2 - Claudius the God - is even tougher. I bought the books when the BBC series came out - still not read them both cover to cover in spite of several attempts.
    They're wonderful books. I do think that they're best read with a certain experience of life under your belt though. I'm not sure I'd have liked them if I had read them 10 years prior. I plan to read War and Peace again for roughly those sorts of reasons - I found it hard the first time.
    I have never read "War and Peace" and I have no urge to do so, but I do know of a tale told by Isaac Asimov about it. He (Asimov) was at a dinner next to a guest he did not know and who was working hard at conversation with Asimov (one of IA's self-admitted weak points):

    Guest: How do you think technology will affect the novel? Would War & Peace have been better if Dostoyevsky had had a word processor?

    IA: No. It would have been exactly the same.

    Guest: How can you be so sure of that?

    IA: Because War & Peace was written by Tolstoy.


    End of conversation.....

    I only got through War and Peace by taking it as my only book on a tour of Sri Lanka. Even then I skimmed a lot of War in order to get to the Peace stuff which was much more to my taste!
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195

    Anyway, I'm off. Let's hope the death toll doesn't rise. Stay safe, Londoners.

    2 Romanians in hospital and 2 french school children critical
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    Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,048

    Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?

    Manager must encourage it - they've been a dirty team for years, it has to be intentional.
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,763

    PlatoSaid said:

    Floater said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    I thought I'd missed it. Clearly not.

    Paul Joseph Watson

    Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, a city attacked over 5 hours ago, has not appeared once on camera to reassure the public. Where is he?

    I thought he had released some sort of statement?
    He did - hours ago.
    Linky?
    On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours ago
    he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuff

    why isnt he on the telly
    I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.
    maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisis

    he's taking a back seat
    Calm yourself man.

    There's suggestions he was busy coordinating the response in London.

    Who knew you'd prefer a more PR savvy politician than a politician with substance.
    so the cant piss and chew gum at the same time argument
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    isamisam Posts: 41,002
    edited March 2017

    Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?

    Weigl could've broke Dier's leg there, what game are you watching?

    Lallana 16/1 backers denied by the beans on toast
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,977

    PlatoSaid said:

    Floater said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    I thought I'd missed it. Clearly not.

    Paul Joseph Watson

    Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, a city attacked over 5 hours ago, has not appeared once on camera to reassure the public. Where is he?

    I thought he had released some sort of statement?
    He did - hours ago.
    Linky?
    On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours ago
    he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuff

    why isnt he on the telly
    I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.
    maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisis

    he's taking a back seat

    Maybe he is coordinating stuff. Livingstone was in Singapore in 2005. Khan is in the middle of it.
    https://twitter.com/mayoroflondon/status/844631399713947648
    he's the invisible man

    Rudolf Giuliani led from the fron in 9/11 even Boris got out early when responding to attacks in Paris

    I can see him.

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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    Omnium said:

    Tim_B said:

    Utterly off-topic aside: just discovered that Graves nicked the 'drills were bloodless battles and battles were bloody drills' line (spoken in I, Claudius by Drusus to Tiberius, describing how the army saw the latter as a commander) from Josephus.

    It has been years since I read "I, Clavdivs". Heavy going though, Mills & Boon it was not :)
    Vol 2 - Claudius the God - is even tougher. I bought the books when the BBC series came out - still not read them both cover to cover in spite of several attempts.
    They're wonderful books. I do think that they're best read with a certain experience of life under your belt though. I'm not sure I'd have liked them if I had read them 10 years prior. I plan to read War and Peace again for roughly those sorts of reasons - I found it hard the first time.
    I have never read "War and Peace" and I have no urge to do so, but I do know of a tale told by Isaac Asimov about it. He (Asimov) was at a dinner next to a guest he did not know and who was working hard at conversation with Asimov (one of IA's self-admitted weak points):

    Guest: How do you think technology will affect the novel? Would War & Peace have been better if Dostoyevsky had had a word processor?

    IA: No. It would have been exactly the same.

    Guest: How can you be so sure of that?

    IA: Because War & Peace was written by Tolstoy.


    End of conversation.....

    I read the Constance Garnett translation of War and Peace many years ago and enjoyed it.
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    kle4 said:

    Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?

    Manager must encourage it - they've been a dirty team for years, it has to be intentional.
    He wasn't really, I was just winding up Scrapheap.

    Dier was the victim of the bad challenge, the German player pretended to be hurt to cover up his nefariousness
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    OmniumOmnium Posts: 9,800
    Assuming this is an attack by misguided Islamic radicals, how can I as an individual legitimately try to put pressure on the followers of that faith to try to fix their community?

    I strongly disapprove of their thinking, but then I do equally disapprove of the thinking of all religions.

    I will think a little less of any Muslim I meet after each of these incidents. They're still generally fine people, but a little less fine.

    I want to press against this radicalism, and press hard. I don't want to tarnish the good name, or be alienated from the vast majority of Muslims though.

    Any ideas?
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Iain Duncan Smith saying the police officer killed was female.
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,763

    PlatoSaid said:

    Floater said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    I thought I'd missed it. Clearly not.

    Paul Joseph Watson

    Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, a city attacked over 5 hours ago, has not appeared once on camera to reassure the public. Where is he?

    I thought he had released some sort of statement?
    He did - hours ago.
    Linky?
    On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours ago
    he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuff

    why isnt he on the telly
    I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.
    maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisis

    he's taking a back seat

    Maybe he is coordinating stuff. Livingstone was in Singapore in 2005. Khan is in the middle of it.
    https://twitter.com/mayoroflondon/status/844631399713947648
    he's the invisible man

    Rudolf Giuliani led from the fron in 9/11 even Boris got out early when responding to attacks in Paris

    I can see him.

    only because youve gone looking for him
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    In other news Channel 4 headlines reporting that :

    Scotland lead Canada 4:0 after two minutes
    DeGaulle leads in new poll by Cherchez les Femme Research
    President Trump giving up twitter for Lent
    Sean Thomas to head the Ben Okri fan club

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    MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,237

    PlatoSaid said:

    I thought I'd missed it. Clearly not.

    Paul Joseph Watson

    Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, a city attacked over 5 hours ago, has not appeared once on camera to reassure the public. Where is he?

    Yes he has. https://twitter.com/SadiqKhan/status/844633197191335936
    More fake news being pushed by its Queen...
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,048

    kle4 said:

    Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?

    Manager must encourage it - they've been a dirty team for years, it has to be intentional.
    He wasn't really, I was just winding up Scrapheap.

    Dier was the victim of the bad challenge, the German player pretended to be hurt to cover up his nefariousness
    I'm not watching this game, but Spurs are a dirty team, several of the players are frequently so. That has to be a tactic.
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,715

    Omnium said:

    Tim_B said:

    Utterly off-topic aside: just discovered that Graves nicked the 'drills were bloodless battles and battles were bloody drills' line (spoken in I, Claudius by Drusus to Tiberius, describing how the army saw the latter as a commander) from Josephus.

    It has been years since I read "I, Clavdivs". Heavy going though, Mills & Boon it was not :)
    Vol 2 - Claudius the God - is even tougher. I bought the books when the BBC series came out - still not read them both cover to cover in spite of several attempts.
    They're wonderful books. I do think that they're best read with a certain experience of life under your belt though. I'm not sure I'd have liked them if I had read them 10 years prior. I plan to read War and Peace again for roughly those sorts of reasons - I found it hard the first time.
    I have never read "War and Peace" and I have no urge to do so, but I do know of a tale told by Isaac Asimov about it. He (Asimov) was at a dinner next to a guest he did not know and who was working hard at conversation with Asimov (one of IA's self-admitted weak points):

    Guest: How do you think technology will affect the novel? Would War & Peace have been better if Dostoyevsky had had a word processor?

    IA: No. It would have been exactly the same.

    Guest: How can you be so sure of that?

    IA: Because War & Peace was written by Tolstoy.


    End of conversation.....

    I only got through War and Peace by taking it as my only book on a tour of Sri Lanka. Even then I skimmed a lot of War in order to get to the Peace stuff which was much more to my taste!
    I bought a copy of W&P a couple of weeks ago - £2 for a recent(ish) hardback in the local Oxfam bookshop. I'm not sure if it is the ideal reading material while commuting - I might need a bigger rucksack.
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    Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    Tim_B said:


    I read the Constance Garnett translation of War and Peace many years ago and enjoyed it.

    My lack of Russian is a major handicap to reading it. I intend for it to stay that way :):)

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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,291
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    Tim_B said:


    I read the Constance Garnett translation of War and Peace many years ago and enjoyed it.

    My lack of Russian is a major handicap to reading it. I intend for it to stay that way :):)

    You should blame the man who invented the Russian alphabet - Cyril Ick :smile:
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    OmniumOmnium Posts: 9,800

    Omnium said:

    Tim_B said:

    Utterly off-topic aside: just discovered that Graves nicked the 'drills were bloodless battles and battles were bloody drills' line (spoken in I, Claudius by Drusus to Tiberius, describing how the army saw the latter as a commander) from Josephus.

    It has been years since I read "I, Clavdivs". Heavy going though, Mills & Boon it was not :)
    Vol 2 - Claudius the God - is even tougher. I bought the books when the BBC series came out - still not read them both cover to cover in spite of several attempts.
    They're wonderful books. I do think that they're best read with a certain experience of life under your belt though. I'm not sure I'd have liked them if I had read them 10 years prior. I plan to read War and Peace again for roughly those sorts of reasons - I found it hard the first time.
    I have never read "War and Peace" and I have no urge to do so, but I do know of a tale told by Isaac Asimov about it. He (Asimov) was at a dinner next to a guest he did not know and who was working hard at conversation with Asimov (one of IA's self-admitted weak points):

    Guest: How do you think technology will affect the novel? Would War & Peace have been better if Dostoyevsky had had a word processor?

    IA: No. It would have been exactly the same.

    Guest: How can you be so sure of that?

    IA: Because War & Peace was written by Tolstoy.


    End of conversation.....

    I only got through War and Peace by taking it as my only book on a tour of Sri Lanka. Even then I skimmed a lot of War in order to get to the Peace stuff which was much more to my taste!
    It's hard to read it and not think that there is something there though. Anna Karenina too. I think I read the Cossacks too, but that didn't leave an impression.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,449
    Bloody hell! My first full day back at work (in Coventry) for seven weeks and this happens.

    Condolences to victims/injured and their families.

    Could easily have been me and my mum, we were walking on Westminster Bridge only on Sunday :(
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    Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    Tim_B said:

    Tim_B said:

    Utterly off-topic aside: just discovered that Graves nicked the 'drills were bloodless battles and battles were bloody drills' line (spoken in I, Claudius by Drusus to Tiberius, describing how the army saw the latter as a commander) from Josephus.

    It has been years since I read "I, Clavdivs". Heavy going though, Mills & Boon it was not :)
    Vol 2 - Claudius the God - is even tougher. I bought the books when the BBC series came out - still not read them both cover to cover in spite of several attempts.
    I read them both. I think once in a lifetime was enough :)

    I did enjoy them though
    amazon has them both for $1.99 each. But then the Kindle deal of the day the other day was The Ice Twins for $1.99 also.
    Robert Graves or SeanT? Well, I already have both Claudius's (Claudii?) on my bookshelf whereas I do not have any of Sean's stuff. I shall chose to remain pure and unsullied by Mr T's professional prose as I read enough of his unprofessional stuff in here ;)
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    I'm not biting...

    unlike certain footballers loosely associated with a team from somewhere up there.
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    tlg86 said:

    RobD said:

    SeanT said:

    Wow, Channel 4 News backtracking

    Huge fuck up.

    They couldn't have libeled a nicer bloke, could they? :D
    Hard for him to claim for any damage to his reputation. It has probably increased his 'value'

    It would be horrendous to see the libel laws being used to force media outlets to pay damages that would arguably be used to fund terrorism...
    That's the point - there has been no damage to his reputation so there would be no monetary amount.

    I can say Gary glitter interfered with a.n.other and even if it's not true it hasn't damaged his reputation so he can't sue me for libel.


    The individual in question doesn't have convictions for violence - so he could claim that calling him a murderer is damage.
    Yes, I think he will sue and he will win.
    I disagree, he'd need to find somebody to fund his folly which is doubtful given his arguement would be "all muslims need to rise up and kill cops, I've said that many times, I've tried to get to Iraq to kill infidels but never wanted to personally kill the police in this country"
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    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?

    Manager must encourage it - they've been a dirty team for years, it has to be intentional.
    He wasn't really, I was just winding up Scrapheap.

    Dier was the victim of the bad challenge, the German player pretended to be hurt to cover up his nefariousness
    I'm not watching this game, but Spurs are a dirty team, several of the players are frequently so. That has to be a tactic.
    so which teams are 'clean' then on your score-card?
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    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?

    Manager must encourage it - they've been a dirty team for years, it has to be intentional.
    He wasn't really, I was just winding up Scrapheap.

    Dier was the victim of the bad challenge, the German player pretended to be hurt to cover up his nefariousness
    I'm not watching this game, but Spurs are a dirty team, several of the players are frequently so. That has to be a tactic.
    With Dele Alli I think it is impetuousness of youth.

    I remember when Steven Gerrard was young he committed the worst challenge I had ever seen, on Kevin Campbell, when as one Liverpool fanzine put it, 'Kevin Campbell spent the rest of his life looking for someone with a bollock donor card'
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    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?

    Manager must encourage it - they've been a dirty team for years, it has to be intentional.
    He wasn't really, I was just winding up Scrapheap.

    Dier was the victim of the bad challenge, the German player pretended to be hurt to cover up his nefariousness
    I'm not watching this game, but Spurs are a dirty team, several of the players are frequently so. That has to be a tactic.
    With Dele Alli I think it is impetuousness of youth.

    I remember when Steven Gerrard was young he committed the worst challenge I had ever seen, on Kevin Campbell, when as one Liverpool fanzine put it, 'Kevin Campbell spent the rest of his life looking for someone with a bollock donor card'
    May I associate myself with your comment.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,048

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?

    Manager must encourage it - they've been a dirty team for years, it has to be intentional.
    He wasn't really, I was just winding up Scrapheap.

    Dier was the victim of the bad challenge, the German player pretended to be hurt to cover up his nefariousness
    I'm not watching this game, but Spurs are a dirty team, several of the players are frequently so. That has to be a tactic.
    so which teams are 'clean' then on your score-card?
    All teams foul, none are entirely clean, but spurs have several players who are egregious even for footballers, there's no need to take it personally. I don't support a rival team or anything so I have no reason to have a go at them, but from the football I've watched they do appear particularly bad at that portion of the game.
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    I'm not biting...

    unlike certain footballers loosely associated with a team from somewhere up there.

    Just think Spurs turned down the chance to sign Luis Suarez because they didn't think he was any good.

    Chortle.
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,763
    edited March 2017
    Ann Hidalgo mayor of Paris organises act of solidarity with London

    Eiffel Tower blackout tonight


    Par ailleurs, dans un communiqué publié un peu plus tôt, Mme Hidalgo a adressé sa "solidarité" à son homologue londonien, Sadiq Khan, en soulignant que "Paris et Londres ont des liens étroits d'amitié, qui n'ont eu de cesse de se renforcer au fil des dernières décennies".
    Les deux capitales européennes "partagent un même amour de la liberté et un même attachement à la démocratie" et "ce sont deux villes tolérantes et cosmopolites, ouvertes sur le monde, qui puisent leur force dans leur diversité", a-t-elle souligné.
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    CyanCyan Posts: 1,262
    edited March 2017

    Cyan said:

    rcs1000 said:


    Generals != Primaries

    This isn't a general election.

    The first round in the French presidential whittles the candidates down to two in an open vote. It does for the whole spectrum what the party primaries did for parts of it.
    To an extent, but if you think that Macron's odds are too short (as you imply), you have to offer a credible scenario by which he loses, commensurate with the odds you think would be fair. Where and why are the votes going to go somewhere else?
    If Fillon gets walloped by scandal - so far he has been fairly resilient but his troubles are mounting - then some of his poll score could go to Dupont-Aignan, who would then be a phenomenon and who is already almost on the brink of becoming such. (Le Figaro.)

    If Macron then screws up or is outplayed in one or both of the TV debates, he might not get into the second round. Le Pen tried to own the first debate using a Netanyahu-style graph stunt which wasn't too successful, but that doesn't mean it won't be next time. We might get a bunch-up for almost equal-second place. If Macron does make it to the second round I wouldn't fancy his chances in the interround debate: he might rise to the occasion, but he could also be even more nervous than he was last time and crash out.

    I have started to read Dupont-Aignan's book about his first 100 days as president (!). His brand image is very much as "Mr Clean".

    And whereas the fact the Le Pen is a woman and the other leading candidates are men hasn't been relevant for most people, I am not sure that it isn't much more relevant when viewed from Moscow.

    Fair odds for Macron? 2.2 maybe?

    PS Note to Le Pen: use bigger type, thicker lines, and a bigger piece of card.

    image
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    Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    edited March 2017
    Omnium said:


    I only got through War and Peace by taking it as my only book on a tour of Sri Lanka. Even then I skimmed a lot of War in order to get to the Peace stuff which was much more to my taste!

    It's hard to read it and not think that there is something there though. Anna Karenina too. I think I read the Cossacks too, but that didn't leave an impression.
    I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.

    There was another BBC adaptation of a Russian novel around the same time - the KGB moles in the BBC were obviously trying to subvert the lumpen proletariat of the UK - but I cannot recall the title. I enjoyed that one. Something about a (disgraced?) Colonel or Captain having to do something underhand and then going on the run. Onegin? I forget which is pity because the actor was a bit of a dish :)
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    MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    Ann Hidalgo mayor of Paris organises act of solidarity with London

    Eiffel Tower blackout tonight


    Par ailleurs, dans un communiqué publié un peu plus tôt, Mme Hidalgo a adressé sa "solidarité" à son homologue londonien, Sadiq Khan, en soulignant que "Paris et Londres ont des liens étroits d'amitié, qui n'ont eu de cesse de se renforcer au fil des dernières décennies".
    Les deux capitales européennes "partagent un même amour de la liberté et un même attachement à la démocratie" et "ce sont deux villes tolérantes et cosmopolites, ouvertes sur le monde, qui puisent leur force dans leur diversité", a-t-elle souligné.


    Moreover, in a statement published earlier, Mrs. Hidalgo addressed her "solidarity" to her London counterpart, Sadiq Khan, pointing out that "Paris and London have close ties of friendship, To strengthen over the last few decades ".
    The two European capitals "share the same love of freedom and a single attachment to democracy" and "these are two tolerant and cosmopolitan cities open to the world that draw their strength from their diversity", she stressed .

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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    How very inconvenient for Trump haters - video of Nunes statement

    The Fifth Estate
    Information WAS Collected

    Trump Surveillance not related to Russia probe.

    #wiretap #ObamaGate
    https://t.co/WPh5W4JBp6
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    DixieDixie Posts: 1,221

    Omnium said:

    Tim_B said:

    Utterly off-topic aside: just discovered that Graves nicked the 'drills were bloodless battles and battles were bloody drills' line (spoken in I, Claudius by Drusus to Tiberius, describing how the army saw the latter as a commander) from Josephus.

    It has been years since I read "I, Clavdivs". Heavy going though, Mills & Boon it was not :)
    Vol 2 - Claudius the God - is even tougher. I bought the books when the BBC series came out - still not read them both cover to cover in spite of several attempts.
    They're wonderful books. I do think that they're best read with a certain experience of life under your belt though. I'm not sure I'd have liked them if I had read them 10 years prior. I plan to read War and Peace again for roughly those sorts of reasons - I found it hard the first time.
    I have never read "War and Peace" and I have no urge to do so, but I do know of a tale told by Isaac Asimov about it. He (Asimov) was at a dinner next to a guest he did not know and who was working hard at conversation with Asimov (one of IA's self-admitted weak points):

    Guest: How do you think technology will affect the novel? Would War & Peace have been better if Dostoyevsky had had a word processor?

    IA: No. It would have been exactly the same.

    Guest: How can you be so sure of that?

    IA: Because War & Peace was written by Tolstoy.


    End of conversation.....

    I only got through War and Peace by taking it as my only book on a tour of Sri Lanka. Even then I skimmed a lot of War in order to get to the Peace stuff which was much more to my taste!
    I bought a copy of W&P a couple of weeks ago - £2 for a recent(ish) hardback in the local Oxfam bookshop. I'm not sure if it is the ideal reading material while commuting - I might need a bigger rucksack.
    read it from cover from cover. It's beautifully written. Story so so
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,205
    Michael Green giving his account of the incident on Sky News.
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    edited March 2017

    I'm not biting...

    unlike certain footballers loosely associated with a team from somewhere up there.

    Just think Spurs turned down the chance to sign Luis Suarez because they didn't think he was any good.

    Chortle.
    He did not have sharp teeth.
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    OmniumOmnium Posts: 9,800

    Omnium said:


    I only got through War and Peace by taking it as my only book on a tour of Sri Lanka. Even then I skimmed a lot of War in order to get to the Peace stuff which was much more to my taste!

    It's hard to read it and not think that there is something there though. Anna Karenina too. I think I read the Cossacks too, but that didn't leave an impression.

    I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.

    There was another BBC adaptation of a Russian novel around the same time - the KGB moles in the BBC were obviously trying to subvert the lumpen proletariat of the UK - but I cannot recall the title. I enjoyed that one. Something about a (disgraced?) Colonel or Captain having to do something underhand and then going on the run. Onegin? I forget which is pity because the actor was a bit of a dish :)
    There's nothing wrong with developing an interest in TV programmes in that way. I recall I was quite fixated by Dallas - I seem to recall that Victoria Principal held my attention, but I've no idea what the two prominent features of her performance that did so might have been.
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    Ann Hidalgo mayor of Paris organises act of solidarity with London

    Eiffel Tower blackout tonight


    Par ailleurs, dans un communiqué publié un peu plus tôt, Mme Hidalgo a adressé sa "solidarité" à son homologue londonien, Sadiq Khan, en soulignant que "Paris et Londres ont des liens étroits d'amitié, qui n'ont eu de cesse de se renforcer au fil des dernières décennies".
    Les deux capitales européennes "partagent un même amour de la liberté et un même attachement à la démocratie" et "ce sont deux villes tolérantes et cosmopolites, ouvertes sur le monde, qui puisent leur force dans leur diversité", a-t-elle souligné.


    Moreover, in a statement published earlier, Mrs. Hidalgo addressed her "solidarity" to her London counterpart, Sadiq Khan, pointing out that "Paris and London have close ties of friendship, To strengthen over the last few decades ".
    The two European capitals "share the same love of freedom and a single attachment to democracy" and "these are two tolerant and cosmopolitan cities open to the world that draw their strength from their diversity", she stressed .

    Eiffel Schmeiffel - what about the lights on Blackpool Tower?
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    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?

    Manager must encourage it - they've been a dirty team for years, it has to be intentional.
    He wasn't really, I was just winding up Scrapheap.

    Dier was the victim of the bad challenge, the German player pretended to be hurt to cover up his nefariousness
    I'm not watching this game, but Spurs are a dirty team, several of the players are frequently so. That has to be a tactic.
    With Dele Alli I think it is impetuousness of youth.

    I remember when Steven Gerrard was young he committed the worst challenge I had ever seen, on Kevin Campbell, when as one Liverpool fanzine put it, 'Kevin Campbell spent the rest of his life looking for someone with a bollock donor card'
    A female friend of mine was very impressed by Kevin Campbell's performance one night. It wasn't football related iirc
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    isamisam Posts: 41,002
    edited March 2017
    haha another post deleted.. this is just like old times!

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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,291
    Dixie said:

    Omnium said:

    Tim_B said:

    Utterly off-topic aside: just discovered that Graves nicked the 'drills were bloodless battles and battles were bloody drills' line (spoken in I, Claudius by Drusus to Tiberius, describing how the army saw the latter as a commander) from Josephus.

    It has been years since I read "I, Clavdivs". Heavy going though, Mills & Boon it was not :)
    Vol 2 - Claudius the God - is even tougher. I bought the books when the BBC series came out - still not read them both cover to cover in spite of several attempts.
    They're wonderful books. I do think that they're best read with a certain experience of life under your belt though. I'm not sure I'd have liked them if I had read them 10 years prior. I plan to read War and Peace again for roughly those sorts of reasons - I found it hard the first time.
    I have never read "War and Peace" and I have no urge to do so, but I do know of a tale told by Isaac Asimov about it. He (Asimov) was at a dinner next to a guest he did not know and who was working hard at conversation with Asimov (one of IA's self-admitted weak points):

    Guest: How do you think technology will affect the novel? Would War & Peace have been better if Dostoyevsky had had a word processor?

    IA: No. It would have been exactly the same.

    Guest: How can you be so sure of that?

    IA: Because War & Peace was written by Tolstoy.


    End of conversation.....

    I only got through War and Peace by taking it as my only book on a tour of Sri Lanka. Even then I skimmed a lot of War in order to get to the Peace stuff which was much more to my taste!
    I bought a copy of W&P a couple of weeks ago - £2 for a recent(ish) hardback in the local Oxfam bookshop. I'm not sure if it is the ideal reading material while commuting - I might need a bigger rucksack.
    read it from cover from cover. It's beautifully written. Story so so
    The opera is quite hard going. Heard it once, not sure if it has been performed recently.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,002
    Cyan said:

    Cyan said:

    rcs1000 said:


    Generals != Primaries

    This isn't a general election.

    The first round in the French presidential whittles the candidates down to two in an open vote. It does for the whole spectrum what the party primaries did for parts of it.
    To an extent, but if you think that Macron's odds are too short (as you imply), you have to offer a credible scenario by which he loses, commensurate with the odds you think would be fair. Where and why are the votes going to go somewhere else?
    If Fillon gets walloped by scandal - so far he has been fairly resilient but his troubles are mounting - then some of his poll score could go to Dupont-Aignan, who would then be a phenomenon and who is already almost on the brink of becoming such. (Le Figaro.)

    If Macron then screws up or is outplayed in one or both of the TV debates, he might not get into the second round. Le Pen tried to own the first debate using a Netanyahu-style graph stunt which wasn't too successful, but that doesn't mean it won't be next time. We might get a bunch-up for almost equal-second place. If Macron does make it to the second round I wouldn't fancy his chances in the interround debate: he might rise to the occasion, but he could also be even more nervous than he was last time and crash out.

    I have started to read Dupont-Aignan's book about his first 100 days as president (!). His brand image is very much as "Mr Clean".

    And whereas the fact the Le Pen is a woman and the other leading candidates are men hasn't been relevant for most people, I am not sure that it isn't much more relevant when viewed from Moscow.

    Fair odds for Macron? 2.2 maybe?

    PS Note to Le Pen: use bigger type, thicker lines, and a bigger piece of card.

    image

    How much are you offering at 2.2 ?
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    isam said:

    haha another post deleted.. this is just like old times!

    The first rule of [blank] is you do not talk about [blank]... :D
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    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?

    Manager must encourage it - they've been a dirty team for years, it has to be intentional.
    He wasn't really, I was just winding up Scrapheap.

    Dier was the victim of the bad challenge, the German player pretended to be hurt to cover up his nefariousness
    I'm not watching this game, but Spurs are a dirty team, several of the players are frequently so. That has to be a tactic.
    so which teams are 'clean' then on your score-card?
    All teams foul, none are entirely clean, but spurs have several players who are egregious even for footballers, there's no need to take it personally. I don't support a rival team or anything so I have no reason to have a go at them, but from the football I've watched they do appear particularly bad at that portion of the game.
    fair enough but compared to who as a benchmark?

    http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/discipline/fairplay
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    The_TaxmanThe_Taxman Posts: 2,979
    Shock moment SNP politician MOANS about terror attack delaying Scottish independence vote:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/782658/london-terror-atack-snp-minister-meltdown-holyrood-suspension
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    Tim_B said:

    Iain Duncan Smith saying the police officer killed was female.

    RIP
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    Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    Omnium said:

    I seem to recall that Victoria Principal held my attention, but I've no idea what the two prominent features of her performance that did so might have been.

    I can imagine ...... (we really need a "rolls-eyes" emoticon around here)

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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,990
    @Pulpstar - what is Le Pen holding up there?
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    isamisam Posts: 41,002
    edited March 2017

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?

    Manager must encourage it - they've been a dirty team for years, it has to be intentional.
    He wasn't really, I was just winding up Scrapheap.

    Dier was the victim of the bad challenge, the German player pretended to be hurt to cover up his nefariousness
    I'm not watching this game, but Spurs are a dirty team, several of the players are frequently so. That has to be a tactic.
    With Dele Alli I think it is impetuousness of youth.

    I remember when Steven Gerrard was young he committed the worst challenge I had ever seen, on Kevin Campbell, when as one Liverpool fanzine put it, 'Kevin Campbell spent the rest of his life looking for someone with a bollock donor card'
    A female friend of mine was very impressed by Kevin Campbell's performance one night. It wasn't football related iirc
    My abiding memory of Kevin Campbell is from the Arsenal 90/91 season review video (Champions only losing 1 game, a feat surely never to be beaten).. he was asked how it felt to score his first goal for the club... sat there thinking for about a minute then said he couldn't remember it!

    (QPR away in a 3-1 victory)
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,449
    JackW said:

    GIN1138 said:

    JackW said:

    GIN1138 said:

    JackW said:

    Channel 4 pull their +1 hour coverage ....

    Someone must read PB .... :smile:


    Mike's the man who moves markets and Mr Jack is the man who moves the media! :smiley:
    The only thing Jack moves with alacrity these days are bowel movements after certain medication !!
    Sounds like your ARSE is back in business.... ;)
    In well earned retirement .... :smile:
    http://elbow.co.uk/files/2016/10/site-image-largeONSALE.jpg
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    edited March 2017

    PlatoSaid said:

    Floater said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    I thought I'd missed it. Clearly not.

    Paul Joseph Watson

    Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, a city attacked over 5 hours ago, has not appeared once on camera to reassure the public. Where is he?

    I thought he had released some sort of statement?
    He did - hours ago.
    Linky?
    On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours ago
    he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuff

    why isnt he on the telly
    I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.
    maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisis

    he's taking a back seat

    Maybe he is coordinating stuff. Livingstone was in Singapore in 2005. Khan is in the middle of it.
    https://twitter.com/mayoroflondon/status/844631399713947648
    he's the invisible man

    Rudolf Giuliani led from the fron in 9/11 even Boris got out early when responding to attacks in Paris

    You should be ashamed of yourself. Probably I am asking for too much. You and the Alt-Right queen have plumbed new depths and resorted to point scoring.

    Equally, the Prime Minister was also not on TV. But no reasonable person would criticise her as she had many, many persons to talk to.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    Tim_B said:

    Iain Duncan Smith saying the police officer killed was female.

    On the other hand the reports of the mp who performed cpr talked about the victim as "he" several times.

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    isamisam Posts: 41,002
    RobD said:

    isam said:

    haha another post deleted.. this is just like old times!

    The first rule of [blank] is you do not talk about [blank]... :D
    It does raise the question of which sources can be trusted though.. obviously those deemed reliable are not anymore. Shouldn't the posts falsely naming the bloke in jail be deleted? They're still on here
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?

    Manager must encourage it - they've been a dirty team for years, it has to be intentional.
    He wasn't really, I was just winding up Scrapheap.

    Dier was the victim of the bad challenge, the German player pretended to be hurt to cover up his nefariousness
    I'm not watching this game, but Spurs are a dirty team, several of the players are frequently so. That has to be a tactic.
    With Dele Alli I think it is impetuousness of youth.

    I remember when Steven Gerrard was young he committed the worst challenge I had ever seen, on Kevin Campbell, when as one Liverpool fanzine put it, 'Kevin Campbell spent the rest of his life looking for someone with a bollock donor card'
    A female friend of mine was very impressed by Kevin Campbell's performance one night. It wasn't football related iirc
    I could tell a story about a footballer .... best not commit to print though :-)
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Floater said:

    Tim_B said:

    Iain Duncan Smith saying the police officer killed was female.

    On the other hand the reports of the mp who performed cpr talked about the victim as "he" several times.

    Put it down to the fog of war.
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    edited March 2017
    Omnium said:

    Omnium said:


    I only got through War and Peace by taking it as my only book on a tour of Sri Lanka. Even then I skimmed a lot of War in order to get to the Peace stuff which was much more to my taste!

    It's hard to read it and not think that there is something there though. Anna Karenina too. I think I read the Cossacks too, but that didn't leave an impression.

    I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.

    There was another BBC adaptation of a Russian novel around the same time - the KGB moles in the BBC were obviously trying to subvert the lumpen proletariat of the UK - but I cannot recall the title. I enjoyed that one. Something about a (disgraced?) Colonel or Captain having to do something underhand and then going on the run. Onegin? I forget which is pity because the actor was a bit of a dish :)
    There's nothing wrong with developing an interest in TV programmes in that way. I recall I was quite fixated by Dallas - I seem to recall that Victoria Principal held my attention, but I've no idea what the two prominent features of her performance that did so might have been.
    She had good qualifications. Both of them.
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    surbiton said:

    Omnium said:

    Omnium said:


    I only got through War and Peace by taking it as my only book on a tour of Sri Lanka. Even then I skimmed a lot of War in order to get to the Peace stuff which was much more to my taste!

    It's hard to read it and not think that there is something there though. Anna Karenina too. I think I read the Cossacks too, but that didn't leave an impression.

    I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.

    There was another BBC adaptation of a Russian novel around the same time - the KGB moles in the BBC were obviously trying to subvert the lumpen proletariat of the UK - but I cannot recall the title. I enjoyed that one. Something about a (disgraced?) Colonel or Captain having to do something underhand and then going on the run. Onegin? I forget which is pity because the actor was a bit of a dish :)
    There's nothing wrong with developing an interest in TV programmes in that way. I recall I was quite fixated by Dallas - I seem to recall that Victoria Principal held my attention, but I've no idea what the two prominent features of her performance that did so might have been.
    She had good qualifications. Both of them.
    Huge tracts of land?
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,291
    May on TV live.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,002
    isam said:

    RobD said:

    isam said:

    haha another post deleted.. this is just like old times!

    The first rule of [blank] is you do not talk about [blank]... :D
    It does raise the question of which sources can be trusted though.. obviously those deemed reliable are not anymore. Shouldn't the posts falsely naming the bloke in jail be deleted? They're still on here
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZzFtjgtMvU
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,763
    surbiton said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Floater said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    I thought I'd missed it. Clearly not.

    Paul Joseph Watson

    Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, a city attacked over 5 hours ago, has not appeared once on camera to reassure the public. Where is he?

    I thought he had released some sort of statement?
    He did - hours ago.
    Linky?
    On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours ago
    he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuff

    why isnt he on the telly
    I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.
    maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisis

    he's taking a back seat

    Maybe he is coordinating stuff. Livingstone was in Singapore in 2005. Khan is in the middle of it.
    https://twitter.com/mayoroflondon/status/844631399713947648
    he's the invisible man

    Rudolf Giuliani led from the fron in 9/11 even Boris got out early when responding to attacks in Paris

    You should be ashamed of yourself. Probably I am asking for too much. You and the Alt-Right queen have plumbed new depths and resorted to point scoring.

    Equally, the Prime Minister was also not on TV. But no reasonable person would criticise her as she had many, many persons to talk to.
    err why ?

    I comment on a difference of style between Khan and his peers and you throw a hissy fit.

    I suspect his lack of prominence will get noted in places other than here

    and yes I do criticise TM for not getting a move on and making a statement
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,763
    LOL

    as I post la Theresa appears

    no sign of the Invisible Khan
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    edited March 2017

    I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.

    Dear me, how sad. You'd actually deprive yourself of the incomparable pleasure of reading one of greatest novels ever written because of some screen adaptation?

    You should follow Nabavi's Law: Never, ever, under any circumstances, watch a TV adaptation of a great novel which you haven't yet read. Why spoil your potential enjoyment of the real thing, on the off-chance that the pale imitation isn't too awful?
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    isamisam Posts: 41,002

    surbiton said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Floater said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    I thought I'd missed it. Clearly not.

    Paul Joseph Watson

    Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, a city attacked over 5 hours ago, has not appeared once on camera to reassure the public. Where is he?

    I thought he had released some sort of statement?
    He did - hours ago.
    Linky?
    On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours ago
    he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuff

    why isnt he on the telly
    I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.
    maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisis

    he's taking a back seat

    Maybe he is coordinating stuff. Livingstone was in Singapore in 2005. Khan is in the middle of it.
    https://twitter.com/mayoroflondon/status/844631399713947648
    he's the invisible man

    Rudolf Giuliani led from the fron in 9/11 even Boris got out early when responding to attacks in Paris

    You should be ashamed of yourself. Probably I am asking for too much. You and the Alt-Right queen have plumbed new depths and resorted to point scoring.

    Equally, the Prime Minister was also not on TV. But no reasonable person would criticise her as she had many, many persons to talk to.
    err why ?

    I comment on a difference of style between Khan and his peers and you throw a hissy fit.

    I suspect his lack of prominence will get noted in places other than here

    and yes I do criticise TM for not getting a move on and making a statement
    She is making one now

    I don't really see why politicians need to make statements on the quick in these situations. I want to hear what the Police have to say
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    oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,831
    May is striking a very sober and resolute tone with her comments. She will never be a great public speaker but she sounds sincere and in control.

    Also pleased to hear her condemn it as an act of terrorism. No attempt to excuse it away.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,292
    Mrs legohead did well there.
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    Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    If you look downthread there was plenty of bemusement about the initial name in the frame.

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    isamisam Posts: 41,002
    Y0kel said:

    If you look downthread there was plenty of bemusement about the initial name in the frame.

    Yes you were rightly suspicious
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    isam said:

    surbiton said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Floater said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    I thought I'd missed it. Clearly not.

    Paul Joseph Watson

    Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, a city attacked over 5 hours ago, has not appeared once on camera to reassure the public. Where is he?

    I thought he had released some sort of statement?
    He did - hours ago.
    Linky?
    On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours ago
    he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuff

    why isnt he on the telly
    I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.
    maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisis

    he's taking a back seat

    Maybe he is coordinating stuff. Livingstone was in Singapore in 2005. Khan is in the middle of it.
    https://twitter.com/mayoroflondon/status/844631399713947648
    he's the invisible man

    Rudolf Giuliani led from the fron in 9/11 even Boris got out early when responding to attacks in Paris

    You should be ashamed of yourself. Probably I am asking for too much. You and the Alt-Right queen have plumbed new depths and resorted to point scoring.

    Equally, the Prime Minister was also not on TV. But no reasonable person would criticise her as she had many, many persons to talk to.
    err why ?

    I comment on a difference of style between Khan and his peers and you throw a hissy fit.

    I suspect his lack of prominence will get noted in places other than here

    and yes I do criticise TM for not getting a move on and making a statement
    She is making one now

    I don't really see why politicians need to make statements on the quick in these situations. I want to hear what the Police have to say
    Exactly. What does a quick statement actually prove ? Look what happened to C4 on trying to be first with the news.
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    Kay Burley - Theresa May quite Churchillian
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    LOL

    as I post la Theresa appears

    no sign of the Invisible Khan

    Star Trek:The Lack of Khan
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,763
    isam said:

    surbiton said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Floater said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    I thought I'd missed it. Clearly not.

    Paul Joseph Watson

    Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, a city attacked over 5 hours ago, has not appeared once on camera to reassure the public. Where is he?

    I thought he had released some sort of statement?
    He did - hours ago.
    Linky?
    On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours ago
    he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuff

    why isnt he on the telly
    I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.
    maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisis

    he's taking a back seat

    Maybe he is coordinating stuff. Livingstone was in Singapore in 2005. Khan is in the middle of it.
    https://twitter.com/mayoroflondon/status/844631399713947648
    he's the invisible man

    Rudolf Giuliani led from the fron in 9/11 even Boris got out early when responding to attacks in Paris

    You should be ashamed of yourself. Probably I am asking for too much. You and the Alt-Right queen have plumbed new depths and resorted to point scoring.

    Equally, the Prime Minister was also not on TV. But no reasonable person would criticise her as she had many, many persons to talk to.
    err why ?

    I comment on a difference of style between Khan and his peers and you throw a hissy fit.

    I suspect his lack of prominence will get noted in places other than here

    and yes I do criticise TM for not getting a move on and making a statement
    She is making one now

    I don't really see why politicians need to make statements on the quick in these situations. I want to hear what the Police have to say
    it's the modern equivalent of

    keep calm and carry on
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    LOL

    as I post la Theresa appears

    no sign of the Invisible Khan

    He was on TV at least one hour if not more before. I don't think you would be writing this unless his name was Khan.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,292
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,763
    surbiton said:

    LOL

    as I post la Theresa appears

    no sign of the Invisible Khan

    He was on TV at least one hour if not more before. I don't think you would be writing this unless his name was Khan.
    which tv channel was this
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    oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,831
    Probably the most expensive mistake of his now shortened career.
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    edited March 2017

    I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.

    Dear me, how sad. You'd actually deprive yourself of the incomparable pleasure of reading one of greatest novels ever written because of some screen adaptation?

    You should follow Nabavi's Law: Never, ever, under any circumstances, watch a TV adaptation of a great novel which you haven't yet read. Why spoil your potential enjoyment of the real thing, on the off-chance that the pale imitation isn't too awful?
    I saw the Superb TV adaptation of Brideshead Revisited before reading the novel. I actually enjoyed the book more after seeing the TV series. But that is very rare.

    To me this is still the best TV adaptation of a novel.
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    surbiton said:

    LOL

    as I post la Theresa appears

    no sign of the Invisible Khan

    He was on TV at least one hour if not more before. I don't think you would be writing this unless his name was Khan.
    Boris would have been much more pro-active
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    Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    edited March 2017

    I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.

    Dear me, how sad. You'd actually deprive yourself of the incomparable pleasure of reading one of greatest novels ever written because of some screen adaptation?
    Ummm... yes, I suppose so. I can read "Married posh woman runs off with eligible bachelor" in OK Magazine and it will even have photos.

    You should follow Nabavi's Law: Never, ever, under any circumstances, watch a TV adaptation of a great novel which you haven't yet read. Why spoil you potential enjoyment of the real thing, on the off-chance that the pale imitation isn't too awful?

    I did watch the BBC mini-series of Shogun before I read the book. The book was way, way better.

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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    ABC24
    "The attack on the British Parliament is an attack on parliaments, freedom, and democracy everywhere.” @TurnbullMalcolm on #LondonAttack https://t.co/TBtrKQSddN
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    MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,237

    May is striking a very sober and resolute tone with her comments. She will never be a great public speaker but she sounds sincere and in control.

    Also pleased to hear her condemn it as an act of terrorism. No attempt to excuse it away.

    However you look at it, it was an act of terrorism. Why wouldn't she?
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,205
    edited March 2017
    It's just occurred to me that fake news is an irregular verb:

    I report incorrect news in good faith, you are fake news, he's being sued for slander.
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    Tim_B said:

    I saw the Superb TV adaptation of Brideshead Revisited before reading the novel. I actually enjoyed the book more after seeing the TV series. But that is very rare.

    That adaptation was unusually good.
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