I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.
Dear me, how sad. You'd actually deprive yourself of the incomparable pleasure of reading one of greatest novels ever written because of some screen adaptation?
Ummm... yes, I suppose so. I can read "Married posh woman runs off with eligible bachelor" in OK Magazine and it will even have photos.
You should follow Nabavi's Law: Never, ever, under any circumstances, watch a TV adaptation of a great novel which you haven't yet read. Why spoil you potential enjoyment of the real thing, on the off-chance that the pale imitation isn't too awful?
I did watch the BBC mini-series of Shogun before I read the book. The book was way, way better.
haha another post deleted.. this is just like old times!
The first rule of [blank] is you do not talk about [blank]...
It does raise the question of which sources can be trusted though.. obviously those deemed reliable are not anymore. Shouldn't the posts falsely naming the bloke in jail be deleted? They're still on here
Having attended seminars on defamation and moderation on BTL comments by newspapers in this country, I shall explain.
The original source for the allegations about Trevor Brooks came from reputable news sources, and were posted as 'fair comment' so in that context are fine, which is why Lord McAlpine didn't sue The Guardian for publishing this article https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/nov/08/mistaken-identity-tory-abuse-claim, but did sue Sally Bercow.
Whereas as your comment named someone else based purely on speculation on your part.
PBers know when something controversial happens the rule is that it must be sourced from a reputable UK based news organisation, Channel 4 News met that criteria, your speculation did not.
There's a reason why Mike has never been sued for libel, despite having over 6 million comments on PB in nearly 13 years.
I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.
Dear me, how sad. You'd actually deprive yourself of the incomparable pleasure of reading one of greatest novels ever written because of some screen adaptation?
Ummm... yes, I suppose so. I can read "Married posh woman runs off with eligible bachelor" in OK Magazine and it will even have photos.
You should follow Nabavi's Law: Never, ever, under any circumstances, watch a TV adaptation of a great novel which you haven't yet read. Why spoil you potential enjoyment of the real thing, on the off-chance that the pale imitation isn't too awful?
I did watch the BBC mini-series of Shogun before I read the book. The book was way, way better.
Shogun is one of my all time favourite novels. Heartily recommended, as long as you're not utterly wedded to historical accuracy.
I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.
Dear me, how sad. You'd actually deprive yourself of the incomparable pleasure of reading one of greatest novels ever written because of some screen adaptation?
Ummm... yes, I suppose so. I can read "Married posh woman runs off with eligible bachelor" in OK Magazine and it will even have photos.
You should follow Nabavi's Law: Never, ever, under any circumstances, watch a TV adaptation of a great novel which you haven't yet read. Why spoil you potential enjoyment of the real thing, on the off-chance that the pale imitation isn't too awful?
I did watch the BBC mini-series of Shogun before I read the book. The book was way, way better.
It was an NBC series, wasn't it?
I have no idea. I saw it on the BBC. They ran it over 4 or 5 nights and the whole household was enthralled by it. Well, all of us except my dad, but that was because he was having an affair with a woman from the golf club so he never saw it.
haha another post deleted.. this is just like old times!
The first rule of [blank] is you do not talk about [blank]...
It does raise the question of which sources can be trusted though.. obviously those deemed reliable are not anymore. Shouldn't the posts falsely naming the bloke in jail be deleted? They're still on here
Having attended seminars on defamation and moderation on BTL comments by newspapers in this country, I shall explain.
The original source for the allegations about Trevor Brooks came from reputable news sources, and were posted as 'fair comment' so in that context are fine, which is why Lord McAlpine didn't sue The Guardian for publishing this article https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/nov/08/mistaken-identity-tory-abuse-claim, but did sue Sally Bercow.
Whereas as your comment named someone else based purely on speculation on your part.
PBers know when something controversial happens the rule is that it must be sourced from a reputable UK based news organisation, Channel 4 News met that criteria, your speculation did not.
There's a reason why Mike has never been sued for libel, despite having over 6 million comments on PB in nearly 13 years.
I didn't claim it was the other bloke, I wondered whether if A was true that B might be connected.
Is it libellous to ask if someone might be involved in a crime? I thought the libel was claiming they were
Channel 4 news hadn't named the bloke when he was first mentioned on here by the way, it was some Italian (?) website, La Stampa at 6:26 by ThreeQuidder
I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.
Dear me, how sad. You'd actually deprive yourself of the incomparable pleasure of reading one of greatest novels ever written because of some screen adaptation?
You should follow Nabavi's Law: Never, ever, under any circumstances, watch a TV adaptation of a great novel which you haven't yet read. Why spoil your potential enjoyment of the real thing, on the off-chance that the pale imitation isn't too awful?
haha another post deleted.. this is just like old times!
The first rule of [blank] is you do not talk about [blank]...
It does raise the question of which sources can be trusted though.. obviously those deemed reliable are not anymore. Shouldn't the posts falsely naming the bloke in jail be deleted? They're still on here
Having attended seminars on defamation and moderation on BTL comments by newspapers in this country, I shall explain.
The original source for the allegations about Trevor Brooks came from reputable news sources, and were posted as 'fair comment' so in that context are fine, which is why Lord McAlpine didn't sue The Guardian for publishing this article https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/nov/08/mistaken-identity-tory-abuse-claim, but did sue Sally Bercow.
Whereas as your comment named someone else based purely on speculation on your part.
PBers know when something controversial happens the rule is that it must be sourced from a reputable UK based news organisation, Channel 4 News met that criteria, your speculation did not.
There's a reason why Mike has never been sued for libel, despite having over 6 million comments on PB in nearly 13 years.
I was immediately reminded of Yes Minister, where it was said that there was nothing worse than idle speculation - particularly accurate idle speculation.
Jon snow at the end of the now infamous episode of the ch4 news also claimed the police officer who died was male.
I did wonder about the original version of your comment. I mean, I know there are some sad disasters like the Commissioner Designate, but surely 'police officer is able' isn't really news?
There's a reason why Mike has never been sued for libel, despite having over 6 million comments on PB in nearly 13 years.
The reason is no-one reads PB apart from saddos like us?
You'd be surprised by who visits PB, one day I'll get Robert to publish the IP addresses that visit PB, it will raise some eyebrows.
Ironically the only time PB has remotely attracted the wrong sort of attention on that front was because of what a thread writer wrote, which was rectified with the upset party being allowed to put their view forward.
haha another post deleted.. this is just like old times!
The first rule of [blank] is you do not talk about [blank]...
It does raise the question of which sources can be trusted though.. obviously those deemed reliable are not anymore. Shouldn't the posts falsely naming the bloke in jail be deleted? They're still on here
Having attended seminars on defamation and moderation on BTL comments by newspapers in this country, I shall explain.
The original source for the allegations about Trevor Brooks came from reputable news sources, and were posted as 'fair comment' so in that context are fine, which is why Lord McAlpine didn't sue The Guardian for publishing this article https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/nov/08/mistaken-identity-tory-abuse-claim, but did sue Sally Bercow.
Whereas as your comment named someone else based purely on speculation on your part.
PBers know when something controversial happens the rule is that it must be sourced from a reputable UK based news organisation, Channel 4 News met that criteria, your speculation did not.
There's a reason why Mike has never been sued for libel, despite having over 6 million comments on PB in nearly 13 years.
I didn't claim it was the other bloke, I wondered whether if A was true that B might be connected.
Is it libellous to ask if someone might be involved in a crime? I thought the libel was claiming they were
Channel 4 news hadn't named the bloke when he was first mentioned on here by the way, it was some Italian (?) website
Doesn't that depend on the way in which the question is interpreted? Innocent face comes to mind.
I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.
Dear me, how sad. You'd actually deprive yourself of the incomparable pleasure of reading one of greatest novels ever written because of some screen adaptation?
Ummm... yes, I suppose so. I can read "Married posh woman runs off with eligible bachelor" in OK Magazine and it will even have photos.
You should follow Nabavi's Law: Never, ever, under any circumstances, watch a TV adaptation of a great novel which you haven't yet read. Why spoil you potential enjoyment of the real thing, on the off-chance that the pale imitation isn't too awful?
I did watch the BBC mini-series of Shogun before I read the book. The book was way, way better.
Shogun is one of my all time favourite novels. Heartily recommended, as long as you're not utterly wedded to historical accuracy.
I went from Shogun to Tai-Pan next and read it twice. I did not like the slow start but after that it settled nicely. Shogun was a masterpiece, delightful to read and I think I still have it around somewhere. I might re-read it when I finish my current book.
I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.
Dear me, how sad. You'd actually deprive yourself of the incomparable pleasure of reading one of greatest novels ever written because of some screen adaptation?
You should follow Nabavi's Law: Never, ever, under any circumstances, watch a TV adaptation of a great novel which you haven't yet read. Why spoil your potential enjoyment of the real thing, on the off-chance that the pale imitation isn't too awful?
I saw the Superb TV adaptation of Brideshead Revisited before reading the novel. I actually enjoyed the book more after seeing the TV series. But that is very rare.
To me this is still the best TV adaptation of a novel.
I find a lot of Victorian novels almost impossible to finish - there is just something about the prose style of Dickens, Hardy, Trollope etc. that I don't enjoy.
I do, however, love a good adaptation - whether it is for radio, stage or screen.
French and Russian literature from the same period, on the other hand, is something I can enjoy (as long as it is in a good translation)
No rhyme or reason for this - other than, perhaps, being forced through Far from the Madding Crowd for O Level. I gave up on that after chapter 23 and relied on the York Notes. Didn't stop me getting an A!!
haha another post deleted.. this is just like old times!
The first rule of [blank] is you do not talk about [blank]...
It does raise the question of which sources can be trusted though.. obviously those deemed reliable are not anymore. Shouldn't the posts falsely naming the bloke in jail be deleted? They're still on here
Having attended seminars on defamation and moderation on BTL comments by newspapers in this country, I shall explain.
The original source for the allegations about Trevor Brooks came from reputable news sources, and were posted as 'fair comment' so in that context are fine, which is why Lord McAlpine didn't sue The Guardian for publishing this article https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/nov/08/mistaken-identity-tory-abuse-claim, but did sue Sally Bercow.
Whereas as your comment named someone else based purely on speculation on your part.
PBers know when something controversial happens the rule is that it must be sourced from a reputable UK based news organisation, Channel 4 News met that criteria, your speculation did not.
There's a reason why Mike has never been sued for libel, despite having over 6 million comments on PB in nearly 13 years.
I didn't claim it was the other bloke, I wondered whether if A was true that B might be connected.
Is it libellous to ask if someone might be involved in a crime? I thought the libel was claiming they were
Channel 4 news hadn't named the bloke when he was first mentioned on here by the way, it was some Italian (?) website
Doesn't that depend on the way in which the question is interpreted? Innocent face comes to mind.
Lots of people on here said the murderer was "A"... "A" was arrested recently with "B"... there were reports saying there were two suspects, I wondered if the other was "B".
I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.
Dear me, how sad. You'd actually deprive yourself of the incomparable pleasure of reading one of greatest novels ever written because of some screen adaptation?
Ummm... yes, I suppose so. I can read "Married posh woman runs off with eligible bachelor" in OK Magazine and it will even have photos.
You should follow Nabavi's Law: Never, ever, under any circumstances, watch a TV adaptation of a great novel which you haven't yet read. Why spoil you potential enjoyment of the real thing, on the off-chance that the pale imitation isn't too awful?
I did watch the BBC mini-series of Shogun before I read the book. The book was way, way better.
It was an NBC series, wasn't it?
I have no idea. I saw it on the BBC. They ran it over 4 or 5 nights and the whole household was enthralled by it. Well, all of us except my dad, but that was because he was having an affair with a woman from the golf club so he never saw it.
I hope his putter survived, unless he lost his drive. Golf is the antithesis of sex - in golf you want to get your balls in the hole with the minimum number of strokes. Sex - not so much. I do hope he had a carbon fiber shaft for flexibility.
But it was an NBC series. Richard Chamberlain et al.
He was on TV at least one hour if not more before. I don't think you would be writing this unless his name was Khan.
Boris would have been much more pro-active
Is there a gold medal for these ? This is pathetic.
Do not be ridiculous - Khan is mayor and is virtually invisible - Boris would have been fronting the media as expected by everyone
Well, perhaps. But if there was an emergency it would be better if Boris was out of everyone's way talking to the media with his usual talent for speaking endlessly while saying nothing so competent people could deal with it. Khan on the other hand is a systems man and might be more useful actually doing things.
I wonder if the Tynwald will decide to be magnanimous and let that pass under the circumstances.
Channel 4 news, what a bunch of muppets.
"In 1979, the Manx people celebrated the millennium of their parliament, although there is no evidence that suggests such an assembly was held in 979, or that any such event resembled the modern-day court.[5] In fact, the first record of the place-name occurs in the mid 13th century Chronicle of Mann, and the first description of the role and composition of an assembly held on-site occurs in the early 15th century.[6]"
He was on TV at least one hour if not more before. I don't think you would be writing this unless his name was Khan.
Boris would have been much more pro-active
Is there a gold medal for these ? This is pathetic.
Do not be ridiculous - Khan is mayor and is virtually invisible - Boris would have been fronting the media as expected by everyone
Do you have to be woefully partisan about absolutely everything. You would do well to learn from Roger, who you praised earlier for his nonartisan assessment of PMQ.
I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.
Dear me, how sad. You'd actually deprive yourself of the incomparable pleasure of reading one of greatest novels ever written because of some screen adaptation?
You should follow Nabavi's Law: Never, ever, under any circumstances, watch a TV adaptation of a great novel which you haven't yet read. Why spoil your potential enjoyment of the real thing, on the off-chance that the pale imitation isn't too awful?
Wise words. It worked for me with Game of Thrones
"Great novel"? Nabavi's law is symmetrical, and therefore also states that you should never endanger your enjoyment of a superlative TV series by reading the turgid drivel on which it is based. Imagine watching the Red Wedding for the first time, already knowing what is going to happen.
I find a lot of Victorian novels almost impossible to finish - there is just something about the prose style of Dickens, Hardy, Trollope etc. that I don't enjoy.
I do, however, love a good adaptation - whether it is for radio, stage or screen.
French and Russian literature from the same period, on the other hand, is something I can enjoy (as long as it is in a good translation)
No rhyme or reason for this - other than, perhaps, being forced through Far from the Madding Crowd for O Level. I gave up on that after chapter 23 and relied on the York Notes. Didn't stop me getting an A!!
I agree about the Victorian stuff. I had an English teacher who loved Dickens and Hardy. I came the loathe The Trumpet Major which was inflicted on me for O-Level.
I wonder if the Tynwald will decide to be magnanimous and let that pass under the circumstances.
Channel 4 news, what a bunch of muppets.
"In 1979, the Manx people celebrated the millennium of their parliament, although there is no evidence that suggests such an assembly was held in 979, or that any such event resembled the modern-day court.[5] In fact, the first record of the place-name occurs in the mid 13th century Chronicle of Mann, and the first description of the role and composition of an assembly held on-site occurs in the early 15th century.[6]"
I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.
Dear me, how sad. You'd actually deprive yourself of the incomparable pleasure of reading one of greatest novels ever written because of some screen adaptation?
You should follow Nabavi's Law: Never, ever, under any circumstances, watch a TV adaptation of a great novel which you haven't yet read. Why spoil your potential enjoyment of the real thing, on the off-chance that the pale imitation isn't too awful?
I saw the Superb TV adaptation of Brideshead Revisited before reading the novel. I actually enjoyed the book more after seeing the TV series. But that is very rare.
To me this is still the best TV adaptation of a novel.
I find a lot of Victorian novels almost impossible to finish - there is just something about the prose style of Dickens, Hardy, Trollope etc. that I don't enjoy.
I do, however, love a good adaptation - whether it is for radio, stage or screen.
French and Russian literature from the same period, on the other hand, is something I can enjoy (as long as it is in a good translation)
No rhyme or reason for this - other than, perhaps, being forced through Far from the Madding Crowd for O Level. I gave up on that after chapter 23 and relied on the York Notes. Didn't stop me getting an A!!
@TheScreamingEagle - I'm not sure I'd consider some Italian news outlet to be reputable.
It has nearly a million followers, a blue tick, and the tweet was shared by some reputable UK journalists.
These things are a fine judgment call.
Who's that Katie Hopkins?!
So my enquiring whether, if there were 2 terrorists and the first one was "A", as the reputable sources said, whether the 2nd one might be "B" could have got the site sued for libel you say?
I find a lot of Victorian novels almost impossible to finish - there is just something about the prose style of Dickens, Hardy, Trollope etc. that I don't enjoy.
I do, however, love a good adaptation - whether it is for radio, stage or screen.
French and Russian literature from the same period, on the other hand, is something I can enjoy (as long as it is in a good translation)
No rhyme or reason for this - other than, perhaps, being forced through Far from the Madding Crowd for O Level. I gave up on that after chapter 23 and relied on the York Notes. Didn't stop me getting an A!!
I agree about the Victorian stuff. I had an English teacher who loved Dickens and Hardy. I came the loathe The Trumpet Major which was inflicted on me for O-Level.
I had Memoirs of a Foxhunting Man for O level. Still haven't read it.
I find a lot of Victorian novels almost impossible to finish - there is just something about the prose style of Dickens, Hardy, Trollope etc. that I don't enjoy.
I do, however, love a good adaptation - whether it is for radio, stage or screen.
French and Russian literature from the same period, on the other hand, is something I can enjoy (as long as it is in a good translation)
No rhyme or reason for this - other than, perhaps, being forced through Far from the Madding Crowd for O Level. I gave up on that after chapter 23 and relied on the York Notes. Didn't stop me getting an A!!
I agree about the Victorian stuff. I had an English teacher who loved Dickens and Hardy. I came the loathe The Trumpet Major which was inflicted on me for O-Level.
Add an S at the start of the second word, and it would be a totally different story...
He was on TV at least one hour if not more before. I don't think you would be writing this unless his name was Khan.
Boris would have been much more pro-active
Is there a gold medal for these ? This is pathetic.
Do not be ridiculous - Khan is mayor and is virtually invisible - Boris would have been fronting the media as expected by everyone
What is your accusation exactly? Do you think Khan is sitting at home with his feet up playing fruit ninja? He is likely very busy behind the scenes, just like May. Him and Theresa have both released one statement each so far.
He has released a statement, he will release further in due course. What do you want him to say now, that hasn't already been said?
I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.
Dear me, how sad. You'd actually deprive yourself of the incomparable pleasure of reading one of greatest novels ever written because of some screen adaptation?
You should follow Nabavi's Law: Never, ever, under any circumstances, watch a TV adaptation of a great novel which you haven't yet read. Why spoil your potential enjoyment of the real thing, on the off-chance that the pale imitation isn't too awful?
Wise words. It worked for me with Game of Thrones
"Great novel"? Nabavi's law is symmetrical, and therefore also states that you should never endanger your enjoyment of a superlative TV series by reading the turgid drivel on which it is based. Imagine watching the Red Wedding for the first time, already knowing what is going to happen.
I've generally found with GoT that my enjoyment of the TV series has been heightened by having had to imagine the characters whilst reading the books. The beauty of the TV series is that it is so well cast
"Great novel"? Nabavi's law is symmetrical, and therefore also states that you should never endanger your enjoyment of a superlative TV series by reading the turgid drivel on which it is based. Imagine watching the Red Wedding for the first time, already knowing what is going to happen.
That's also true.
As regards those who are puzzled by the fact that adaptations of novels by Thomas Hardy are miles better than novels by Thomas Hardy, that is because novels by Thomas Hardy aren't very good.
He was on TV at least one hour if not more before. I don't think you would be writing this unless his name was Khan.
Boris would have been much more pro-active
Is there a gold medal for these ? This is pathetic.
Do not be ridiculous - Khan is mayor and is virtually invisible - Boris would have been fronting the media as expected by everyone
Do you have to be woefully partisan about absolutely everything. You would do well to learn from Roger, who you praised earlier for his nonartisan assessment of PMQ.
I give credit where it is due but Khan has been poor today - he is the London mayor
Ellwood's military training no doubt played a big part in his actions today. He put himself into the middle of a potentially lethal situation in order to help a fellow human. That is to be applauded and acknowledged.
I hope his putter survived, unless he lost his drive. Golf is the antithesis of sex - in golf you want to get your balls in the hole with the minimum number of strokes. Sex - not so much. I do hope he had a carbon fiber shaft for flexibility.
Oh he survived fine, the b*****d. He tossed us all out, sold the house and she did something similar with her husband and they took the money and sodded off to the US. I never saw him again.
He was on TV at least one hour if not more before. I don't think you would be writing this unless his name was Khan.
Boris would have been much more pro-active
Is there a gold medal for these ? This is pathetic.
Do not be ridiculous - Khan is mayor and is virtually invisible - Boris would have been fronting the media as expected by everyone
What is your accusation exactly? Do you think Khan is sitting at home with his feet up playing fruit ninja? He is likely very busy behind the scenes, just like May. Him and Theresa have both released one statement each so far.
He has released a statement, he will release further in due course. What do you want him to say now, that hasn't already been said?
He ought to turn up with a mop and challenge ISIS to a game of wiff-waff.
I wonder if the Tynwald will decide to be magnanimous and let that pass under the circumstances.
Channel 4 news, what a bunch of muppets.
"In 1979, the Manx people celebrated the millennium of their parliament, although there is no evidence that suggests such an assembly was held in 979, or that any such event resembled the modern-day court.[5] In fact, the first record of the place-name occurs in the mid 13th century Chronicle of Mann, and the first description of the role and composition of an assembly held on-site occurs in the early 15th century.[6]"
He was on TV at least one hour if not more before. I don't think you would be writing this unless his name was Khan.
Boris would have been much more pro-active
Is there a gold medal for these ? This is pathetic.
Do not be ridiculous - Khan is mayor and is virtually invisible - Boris would have been fronting the media as expected by everyone
Do you have to be woefully partisan about absolutely everything. You would do well to learn from Roger, who you praised earlier for his nonartisan assessment of PMQ.
I give credit where it is due but Khan has been poor today - he is the London mayor
What is he meant to do? Say the same old shit about keeping calm and how our police are the best in the world (how I hate that phrase, it really is an insult to other countries IMO).
I had to commute into London on 7/7 and wanted to hear what the Chief of Police had to say, not Ken Bleedin Livingstone
He was on TV at least one hour if not more before. I don't think you would be writing this unless his name was Khan.
Boris would have been much more pro-active
Is there a gold medal for these ? This is pathetic.
Do not be ridiculous - Khan is mayor and is virtually invisible - Boris would have been fronting the media as expected by everyone
What is your accusation exactly? Do you think Khan is sitting at home with his feet up playing fruit ninja? He is likely very busy behind the scenes, just like May. Him and Theresa have both released one statement each so far.
He has released a statement, he will release further in due course. What do you want him to say now, that hasn't already been said?
I have been watching Sky virtually since the first news of the attack and he has not featured at all as far as I am aware
@TheScreamingEagle - I'm not sure I'd consider some Italian news outlet to be reputable.
It has nearly a million followers, a blue tick, and the tweet was shared by some reputable UK journalists.
These things are a fine judgment call.
For the record, the first two of those three things and the general provenance of the newspaper in question are things I checked before retweeting. But I'd have no complaints if the mods had chosen to delete at the time or if they choose to do so now.
He was on TV at least one hour if not more before. I don't think you would be writing this unless his name was Khan.
Boris would have been much more pro-active
Is there a gold medal for these ? This is pathetic.
Do not be ridiculous - Khan is mayor and is virtually invisible - Boris would have been fronting the media as expected by everyone
Do you have to be woefully partisan about absolutely everything. You would do well to learn from Roger, who you praised earlier for his nonartisan assessment of PMQ.
I give credit where it is due but Khan has been poor today - he is the London mayor
I wonder if the Tynwald will decide to be magnanimous and let that pass under the circumstances.
Channel 4 news, what a bunch of muppets.
"In 1979, the Manx people celebrated the millennium of their parliament, although there is no evidence that suggests such an assembly was held in 979, or that any such event resembled the modern-day court.[5] In fact, the first record of the place-name occurs in the mid 13th century Chronicle of Mann, and the first description of the role and composition of an assembly held on-site occurs in the early 15th century.[6]"
I hope his putter survived, unless he lost his drive. Golf is the antithesis of sex - in golf you want to get your balls in the hole with the minimum number of strokes. Sex - not so much. I do hope he had a carbon fiber shaft for flexibility.
Oh he survived fine, the b*****d. He tossed us all out, sold the house and she did something similar with her husband and they took the money and sodded off to the US. I never saw him again.
Oh dear - I hope he's not in the southeast - I would not want to run across him.
I hope his putter survived, unless he lost his drive. Golf is the antithesis of sex - in golf you want to get your balls in the hole with the minimum number of strokes. Sex - not so much. I do hope he had a carbon fiber shaft for flexibility.
Oh he survived fine, the b*****d. He tossed us all out, sold the house and she did something similar with her husband and they took the money and sodded off to the US. I never saw him again.
He was on TV at least one hour if not more before. I don't think you would be writing this unless his name was Khan.
Boris would have been much more pro-active
Is there a gold medal for these ? This is pathetic.
Do not be ridiculous - Khan is mayor and is virtually invisible - Boris would have been fronting the media as expected by everyone
Do you have to be woefully partisan about absolutely everything. You would do well to learn from Roger, who you praised earlier for his nonartisan assessment of PMQ.
I give credit where it is due but Khan has been poor today - he is the London mayor
FWIW he was at Cobra
If he was in Cobra that would explain his absence so look forward to hearing from him
"Great novel"? Nabavi's law is symmetrical, and therefore also states that you should never endanger your enjoyment of a superlative TV series by reading the turgid drivel on which it is based. Imagine watching the Red Wedding for the first time, already knowing what is going to happen.
That's also true.
As regards those who are puzzled by the fact that adaptations of novels by Thomas Hardy are miles better than novels by Thomas Hardy, that is because novels by Thomas Hardy aren't very good.
I wonder if the Tynwald will decide to be magnanimous and let that pass under the circumstances.
Channel 4 news, what a bunch of muppets.
"In 1979, the Manx people celebrated the millennium of their parliament, although there is no evidence that suggests such an assembly was held in 979, or that any such event resembled the modern-day court.[5] In fact, the first record of the place-name occurs in the mid 13th century Chronicle of Mann, and the first description of the role and composition of an assembly held on-site occurs in the early 15th century.[6]"
He was on TV at least one hour if not more before. I don't think you would be writing this unless his name was Khan.
Boris would have been much more pro-active
Is there a gold medal for these ? This is pathetic.
Do not be ridiculous - Khan is mayor and is virtually invisible - Boris would have been fronting the media as expected by everyone
Do you have to be woefully partisan about absolutely everything. You would do well to learn from Roger, who you praised earlier for his nonartisan assessment of PMQ.
I give credit where it is due but Khan has been poor today - he is the London mayor
FWIW he was at Cobra
If he was in Cobra that would explain his absence so look forward to hearing from him
He was on TV two hours ago. What is this ? An inquisition ?
I wonder if the Tynwald will decide to be magnanimous and let that pass under the circumstances.
Channel 4 news, what a bunch of muppets.
"In 1979, the Manx people celebrated the millennium of their parliament, although there is no evidence that suggests such an assembly was held in 979, or that any such event resembled the modern-day court.[5] In fact, the first record of the place-name occurs in the mid 13th century Chronicle of Mann, and the first description of the role and composition of an assembly held on-site occurs in the early 15th century.[6]"
He was on TV at least one hour if not more before. I don't think you would be writing this unless his name was Khan.
Boris would have been much more pro-active
Is there a gold medal for these ? This is pathetic.
Do not be ridiculous - Khan is mayor and is virtually invisible - Boris would have been fronting the media as expected by everyone
Do you have to be woefully partisan about absolutely everything. You would do well to learn from Roger, who you praised earlier for his nonartisan assessment of PMQ.
I give credit where it is due but Khan has been poor today - he is the London mayor
FWIW he was at Cobra
If he was in Cobra that would explain his absence so look forward to hearing from him
I find a lot of Victorian novels almost impossible to finish - there is just something about the prose style of Dickens, Hardy, Trollope etc. that I don't enjoy.
I do, however, love a good adaptation - whether it is for radio, stage or screen.
French and Russian literature from the same period, on the other hand, is something I can enjoy (as long as it is in a good translation)
No rhyme or reason for this - other than, perhaps, being forced through Far from the Madding Crowd for O Level. I gave up on that after chapter 23 and relied on the York Notes. Didn't stop me getting an A!!
I agree about the Victorian stuff. I had an English teacher who loved Dickens and Hardy. I came the loathe The Trumpet Major which was inflicted on me for O-Level.
The "Victorian stuff" I do love is Wilkie Collins. He scandalised society at the time. I suspect he would have been quite a soul-mate with our own SeanT.
He was on TV at least one hour if not more before. I don't think you would be writing this unless his name was Khan.
Boris would have been much more pro-active
Is there a gold medal for these ? This is pathetic.
Do not be ridiculous - Khan is mayor and is virtually invisible - Boris would have been fronting the media as expected by everyone
Do you have to be woefully partisan about absolutely everything. You would do well to learn from Roger, who you praised earlier for his nonartisan assessment of PMQ.
I give credit where it is due but Khan has been poor today - he is the London mayor
Frankly, I think your minute focus on gesture is part of what's wrong with our politics. Politics all of mouth and no trousers. Especially when some seem to be held to much more exacting standards than others. It's a sad day and I don't really give a shit what Khan or May or anybody else has to say unless they have facts about what happened.
He was on TV at least one hour if not more before. I don't think you would be writing this unless his name was Khan.
Boris would have been much more pro-active
Is there a gold medal for these ? This is pathetic.
Do not be ridiculous - Khan is mayor and is virtually invisible - Boris would have been fronting the media as expected by everyone
Do you have to be woefully partisan about absolutely everything. You would do well to learn from Roger, who you praised earlier for his nonartisan assessment of PMQ.
I give credit where it is due but Khan has been poor today - he is the London mayor
FWIW he was at Cobra
If he was in Cobra that would explain his absence so look forward to hearing from him
he was just live on Sky
Watching the football so missed him but hadn't seen him on Sky all day
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I wonder if the Tynwald will decide to be magnanimous and let that pass under the circumstances.
Channel 4 news, what a bunch of muppets.
The original source for the allegations about Trevor Brooks came from reputable news sources, and were posted as 'fair comment' so in that context are fine, which is why Lord McAlpine didn't sue The Guardian for publishing this article https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/nov/08/mistaken-identity-tory-abuse-claim, but did sue Sally Bercow.
Whereas as your comment named someone else based purely on speculation on your part.
PBers know when something controversial happens the rule is that it must be sourced from a reputable UK based news organisation, Channel 4 News met that criteria, your speculation did not.
There's a reason why Mike has never been sued for libel, despite having over 6 million comments on PB in nearly 13 years.
Wonderful to see Tel Aviv City Hall tonight offering solidarity. https://t.co/jpE06kZYid
Is it libellous to ask if someone might be involved in a crime? I thought the libel was claiming they were
Channel 4 news hadn't named the bloke when he was first mentioned on here by the way, it was some Italian (?) website, La Stampa at 6:26 by ThreeQuidder
First picture of suspect.
Ironically the only time PB has remotely attracted the wrong sort of attention on that front was because of what a thread writer wrote, which was rectified with the upset party being allowed to put their view forward.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-39355505
I do, however, love a good adaptation - whether it is for radio, stage or screen.
French and Russian literature from the same period, on the other hand, is something I can enjoy (as long as it is in a good translation)
No rhyme or reason for this - other than, perhaps, being forced through Far from the Madding Crowd for O Level. I gave up on that after chapter 23 and relied on the York Notes. Didn't stop me getting an A!!
It is the sort of thing that deserves official recognition
But it was an NBC series. Richard Chamberlain et al.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tynwald
These things are a fine judgment call.
well I cant just type in 19.45 can i ?
19.33 - 19.45 Ill get the history of the Third Reich, not Sadiq Khan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogPZ5CY9KoM
So my enquiring whether, if there were 2 terrorists and the first one was "A", as the reputable sources said, whether the 2nd one might be "B" could have got the site sued for libel you say?
https://twitter.com/rhughes_police/status/844655218428166146
He has released a statement, he will release further in due course. What do you want him to say now, that hasn't already been said?
- and fellow dual UK/US national!
https://www.kingsleynapley.co.uk/comment/blogs/dispute-resolution-law-blog/defamation-defence-honest-comment-or-statement-of-fact
As regards those who are puzzled by the fact that adaptations of novels by Thomas Hardy are miles better than novels by Thomas Hardy, that is because novels by Thomas Hardy aren't very good.
Ellwood's military training no doubt played a big part in his actions today. He put himself into the middle of a potentially lethal situation in order to help a fellow human. That is to be applauded and acknowledged.
I had to commute into London on 7/7 and wanted to hear what the Chief of Police had to say, not Ken Bleedin Livingstone
If only William the Bastard hadn't suppressed the Witangamot, you English could have had an even older one
sorry to hear, that's harsh
https://twitter.com/Giroudesquee/status/844591059984400385
https://twitter.com/Giroudesquee/status/844599832635432960
Tess is a great plot
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-39355505
Check out 19:45