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early days surely.Alanbrooke said:
maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisisScrapheap_as_was said:
I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.Alanbrooke said:
he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuffScrapheap_as_was said:
On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours agoPlatoSaid said:
Linky?Scrapheap_as_was said:
why isnt he on the telly
he's taking a back seat0 -
We all remember Livingstone's magnificent response to 7/7. Khan hasn't met that standard, for sure..Alanbrooke said:
he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuffScrapheap_as_was said:
On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours agoPlatoSaid said:
Linky?Scrapheap_as_was said:
why isnt he on the telly0 -
Anyway, I'm off. Let's hope the death toll doesn't rise. Stay safe, Londoners.0
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Sounds like your ARSE is back in business....JackW said:0 -
oh LOOOOOOOLAlanbrooke said:
be fair canada are down to nine menTheScreamingEagles said:A bit of levity.
Current score in the football is Scotland 0 - Canada 10 -
The truth is a malleable product.surbiton said:
I thought you normally watched Fox News.PlatoSaid said:
I've had Sky on since PMQs - no mention at allAlanbrooke said:
he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuffScrapheap_as_was said:
On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours agoPlatoSaid said:
Linky?Scrapheap_as_was said:
why isnt he on the telly0 -
I have never had occasion to look at the Channel 4 news website before, but I see that it doesn't mention the Westminster event at all. Their main story is about Martin McGuinness...0
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Maybe he is coordinating stuff. Livingstone was in Singapore in 2005. Khan is in the middle of it.Alanbrooke said:
maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisisScrapheap_as_was said:
I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.Alanbrooke said:
he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuffScrapheap_as_was said:
On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours agoPlatoSaid said:
Linky?Scrapheap_as_was said:
why isnt he on the telly
he's taking a back seat
https://twitter.com/mayoroflondon/status/844631399713947648
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I think we have to judge Livingstone's reaction in the light of his more recent comments. Any good he may have done was completely undone by what he said in 2015 (and on other occasions)MonikerDiCanio said:
We all remember Livingstone's magnificent response to 7/7. Khan hasn't met that standard, for sure..Alanbrooke said:
he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuffScrapheap_as_was said:
On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours agoPlatoSaid said:
Linky?Scrapheap_as_was said:
why isnt he on the telly0 -
I have never read "War and Peace" and I have no urge to do so, but I do know of a tale told by Isaac Asimov about it. He (Asimov) was at a dinner next to a guest he did not know and who was working hard at conversation with Asimov (one of IA's self-admitted weak points):Omnium said:
They're wonderful books. I do think that they're best read with a certain experience of life under your belt though. I'm not sure I'd have liked them if I had read them 10 years prior. I plan to read War and Peace again for roughly those sorts of reasons - I found it hard the first time.Tim_B said:
Vol 2 - Claudius the God - is even tougher. I bought the books when the BBC series came out - still not read them both cover to cover in spite of several attempts.Beverley_C said:
It has been years since I read "I, Clavdivs". Heavy going though, Mills & Boon it was notMorris_Dancer said:Utterly off-topic aside: just discovered that Graves nicked the 'drills were bloodless battles and battles were bloody drills' line (spoken in I, Claudius by Drusus to Tiberius, describing how the army saw the latter as a commander) from Josephus.
Guest: How do you think technology will affect the novel? Would War & Peace have been better if Dostoyevsky had had a word processor?
IA: No. It would have been exactly the same.
Guest: How can you be so sure of that?
IA: Because War & Peace was written by Tolstoy.
End of conversation.....
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amazon has them both for $1.99 each. But then the Kindle deal of the day the other day was The Ice Twins for $1.99 also.Beverley_C said:
I read them both. I think once in a lifetime was enoughTim_B said:
Vol 2 - Claudius the God - is even tougher. I bought the books when the BBC series came out - still not read them both cover to cover in spite of several attempts.Beverley_C said:
It has been years since I read "I, Clavdivs". Heavy going though, Mills & Boon it was notMorris_Dancer said:Utterly off-topic aside: just discovered that Graves nicked the 'drills were bloodless battles and battles were bloody drills' line (spoken in I, Claudius by Drusus to Tiberius, describing how the army saw the latter as a commander) from Josephus.
I did enjoy them though0 -
Calm yourself man.Alanbrooke said:
maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisisScrapheap_as_was said:
I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.Alanbrooke said:
he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuffScrapheap_as_was said:
On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours agoPlatoSaid said:
Linky?Scrapheap_as_was said:
why isnt he on the telly
he's taking a back seat
There's suggestions he was busy coordinating the response in London.
Who knew you'd prefer a more PR savvy politician than a politician with substance.0 -
he's the invisible manSouthamObserver said:
Maybe he is coordinating stuff. Livingstone was in Singapore in 2005. Khan is in the middle of it.Alanbrooke said:
maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisisScrapheap_as_was said:
I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.Alanbrooke said:
he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuffScrapheap_as_was said:
On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours agoPlatoSaid said:
Linky?Scrapheap_as_was said:
why isnt he on the telly
he's taking a back seat
https://twitter.com/mayoroflondon/status/844631399713947648
Rudolf Giuliani led from the fron in 9/11 even Boris got out early when responding to attacks in Paris
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I only got through War and Peace by taking it as my only book on a tour of Sri Lanka. Even then I skimmed a lot of War in order to get to the Peace stuff which was much more to my taste!Beverley_C said:
I have never read "War and Peace" and I have no urge to do so, but I do know of a tale told by Isaac Asimov about it. He (Asimov) was at a dinner next to a guest he did not know and who was working hard at conversation with Asimov (one of IA's self-admitted weak points):Omnium said:
They're wonderful books. I do think that they're best read with a certain experience of life under your belt though. I'm not sure I'd have liked them if I had read them 10 years prior. I plan to read War and Peace again for roughly those sorts of reasons - I found it hard the first time.Tim_B said:
Vol 2 - Claudius the God - is even tougher. I bought the books when the BBC series came out - still not read them both cover to cover in spite of several attempts.Beverley_C said:
It has been years since I read "I, Clavdivs". Heavy going though, Mills & Boon it was notMorris_Dancer said:Utterly off-topic aside: just discovered that Graves nicked the 'drills were bloodless battles and battles were bloody drills' line (spoken in I, Claudius by Drusus to Tiberius, describing how the army saw the latter as a commander) from Josephus.
Guest: How do you think technology will affect the novel? Would War & Peace have been better if Dostoyevsky had had a word processor?
IA: No. It would have been exactly the same.
Guest: How can you be so sure of that?
IA: Because War & Peace was written by Tolstoy.
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2 Romanians in hospital and 2 french school children criticalMorris_Dancer said:Anyway, I'm off. Let's hope the death toll doesn't rise. Stay safe, Londoners.
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Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?0
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Manager must encourage it - they've been a dirty team for years, it has to be intentional.TheScreamingEagles said:Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?
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so the cant piss and chew gum at the same time argumentTheScreamingEagles said:
Calm yourself man.Alanbrooke said:
maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisisScrapheap_as_was said:
I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.Alanbrooke said:
he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuffScrapheap_as_was said:
On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours agoPlatoSaid said:
Linky?Scrapheap_as_was said:
why isnt he on the telly
he's taking a back seat
There's suggestions he was busy coordinating the response in London.
Who knew you'd prefer a more PR savvy politician than a politician with substance.0 -
Weigl could've broke Dier's leg there, what game are you watching?TheScreamingEagles said:Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?
Lallana 16/1 backers denied by the beans on toast0 -
I can see him.Alanbrooke said:
he's the invisible manSouthamObserver said:
Maybe he is coordinating stuff. Livingstone was in Singapore in 2005. Khan is in the middle of it.Alanbrooke said:
maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisisScrapheap_as_was said:
I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.Alanbrooke said:
he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuffScrapheap_as_was said:
On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours agoPlatoSaid said:
Linky?Scrapheap_as_was said:
why isnt he on the telly
he's taking a back seat
https://twitter.com/mayoroflondon/status/844631399713947648
Rudolf Giuliani led from the fron in 9/11 even Boris got out early when responding to attacks in Paris
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I read the Constance Garnett translation of War and Peace many years ago and enjoyed it.Beverley_C said:
I have never read "War and Peace" and I have no urge to do so, but I do know of a tale told by Isaac Asimov about it. He (Asimov) was at a dinner next to a guest he did not know and who was working hard at conversation with Asimov (one of IA's self-admitted weak points):Omnium said:
They're wonderful books. I do think that they're best read with a certain experience of life under your belt though. I'm not sure I'd have liked them if I had read them 10 years prior. I plan to read War and Peace again for roughly those sorts of reasons - I found it hard the first time.Tim_B said:
Vol 2 - Claudius the God - is even tougher. I bought the books when the BBC series came out - still not read them both cover to cover in spite of several attempts.Beverley_C said:
It has been years since I read "I, Clavdivs". Heavy going though, Mills & Boon it was notMorris_Dancer said:Utterly off-topic aside: just discovered that Graves nicked the 'drills were bloodless battles and battles were bloody drills' line (spoken in I, Claudius by Drusus to Tiberius, describing how the army saw the latter as a commander) from Josephus.
Guest: How do you think technology will affect the novel? Would War & Peace have been better if Dostoyevsky had had a word processor?
IA: No. It would have been exactly the same.
Guest: How can you be so sure of that?
IA: Because War & Peace was written by Tolstoy.
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He wasn't really, I was just winding up Scrapheap.kle4 said:
Manager must encourage it - they've been a dirty team for years, it has to be intentional.TheScreamingEagles said:Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?
Dier was the victim of the bad challenge, the German player pretended to be hurt to cover up his nefariousness0 -
Assuming this is an attack by misguided Islamic radicals, how can I as an individual legitimately try to put pressure on the followers of that faith to try to fix their community?
I strongly disapprove of their thinking, but then I do equally disapprove of the thinking of all religions.
I will think a little less of any Muslim I meet after each of these incidents. They're still generally fine people, but a little less fine.
I want to press against this radicalism, and press hard. I don't want to tarnish the good name, or be alienated from the vast majority of Muslims though.
Any ideas?0 -
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Iain Duncan Smith saying the police officer killed was female.0
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only because youve gone looking for himSouthamObserver said:
I can see him.Alanbrooke said:
he's the invisible manSouthamObserver said:
Maybe he is coordinating stuff. Livingstone was in Singapore in 2005. Khan is in the middle of it.Alanbrooke said:
maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisisScrapheap_as_was said:
I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.Alanbrooke said:
he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuffScrapheap_as_was said:
On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours agoPlatoSaid said:
Linky?Scrapheap_as_was said:
why isnt he on the telly
he's taking a back seat
https://twitter.com/mayoroflondon/status/844631399713947648
Rudolf Giuliani led from the fron in 9/11 even Boris got out early when responding to attacks in Paris0 -
In other news Channel 4 headlines reporting that :
Scotland lead Canada 4:0 after two minutes
DeGaulle leads in new poll by Cherchez les Femme Research
President Trump giving up twitter for Lent
Sean Thomas to head the Ben Okri fan club
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More fake news being pushed by its Queen...Paristonda said:
Yes he has. https://twitter.com/SadiqKhan/status/844633197191335936PlatoSaid said:I thought I'd missed it. Clearly not.
Paul Joseph Watson
Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, a city attacked over 5 hours ago, has not appeared once on camera to reassure the public. Where is he?0 -
I'm not watching this game, but Spurs are a dirty team, several of the players are frequently so. That has to be a tactic.TheScreamingEagles said:
He wasn't really, I was just winding up Scrapheap.kle4 said:
Manager must encourage it - they've been a dirty team for years, it has to be intentional.TheScreamingEagles said:Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?
Dier was the victim of the bad challenge, the German player pretended to be hurt to cover up his nefariousness0 -
I bought a copy of W&P a couple of weeks ago - £2 for a recent(ish) hardback in the local Oxfam bookshop. I'm not sure if it is the ideal reading material while commuting - I might need a bigger rucksack.oxfordsimon said:
I only got through War and Peace by taking it as my only book on a tour of Sri Lanka. Even then I skimmed a lot of War in order to get to the Peace stuff which was much more to my taste!Beverley_C said:
I have never read "War and Peace" and I have no urge to do so, but I do know of a tale told by Isaac Asimov about it. He (Asimov) was at a dinner next to a guest he did not know and who was working hard at conversation with Asimov (one of IA's self-admitted weak points):Omnium said:
They're wonderful books. I do think that they're best read with a certain experience of life under your belt though. I'm not sure I'd have liked them if I had read them 10 years prior. I plan to read War and Peace again for roughly those sorts of reasons - I found it hard the first time.Tim_B said:
Vol 2 - Claudius the God - is even tougher. I bought the books when the BBC series came out - still not read them both cover to cover in spite of several attempts.Beverley_C said:
It has been years since I read "I, Clavdivs". Heavy going though, Mills & Boon it was notMorris_Dancer said:Utterly off-topic aside: just discovered that Graves nicked the 'drills were bloodless battles and battles were bloody drills' line (spoken in I, Claudius by Drusus to Tiberius, describing how the army saw the latter as a commander) from Josephus.
Guest: How do you think technology will affect the novel? Would War & Peace have been better if Dostoyevsky had had a word processor?
IA: No. It would have been exactly the same.
Guest: How can you be so sure of that?
IA: Because War & Peace was written by Tolstoy.
End of conversation.....0 -
My lack of Russian is a major handicap to reading it. I intend for it to stay that wayTim_B said:
I read the Constance Garnett translation of War and Peace many years ago and enjoyed it.
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You should blame the man who invented the Russian alphabet - Cyril IckBeverley_C said:
My lack of Russian is a major handicap to reading it. I intend for it to stay that wayTim_B said:
I read the Constance Garnett translation of War and Peace many years ago and enjoyed it.0 -
It's hard to read it and not think that there is something there though. Anna Karenina too. I think I read the Cossacks too, but that didn't leave an impression.oxfordsimon said:
I only got through War and Peace by taking it as my only book on a tour of Sri Lanka. Even then I skimmed a lot of War in order to get to the Peace stuff which was much more to my taste!Beverley_C said:
I have never read "War and Peace" and I have no urge to do so, but I do know of a tale told by Isaac Asimov about it. He (Asimov) was at a dinner next to a guest he did not know and who was working hard at conversation with Asimov (one of IA's self-admitted weak points):Omnium said:
They're wonderful books. I do think that they're best read with a certain experience of life under your belt though. I'm not sure I'd have liked them if I had read them 10 years prior. I plan to read War and Peace again for roughly those sorts of reasons - I found it hard the first time.Tim_B said:
Vol 2 - Claudius the God - is even tougher. I bought the books when the BBC series came out - still not read them both cover to cover in spite of several attempts.Beverley_C said:
It has been years since I read "I, Clavdivs". Heavy going though, Mills & Boon it was notMorris_Dancer said:Utterly off-topic aside: just discovered that Graves nicked the 'drills were bloodless battles and battles were bloody drills' line (spoken in I, Claudius by Drusus to Tiberius, describing how the army saw the latter as a commander) from Josephus.
Guest: How do you think technology will affect the novel? Would War & Peace have been better if Dostoyevsky had had a word processor?
IA: No. It would have been exactly the same.
Guest: How can you be so sure of that?
IA: Because War & Peace was written by Tolstoy.
End of conversation.....0 -
Bloody hell! My first full day back at work (in Coventry) for seven weeks and this happens.
Condolences to victims/injured and their families.
Could easily have been me and my mum, we were walking on Westminster Bridge only on Sunday0 -
Robert Graves or SeanT? Well, I already have both Claudius's (Claudii?) on my bookshelf whereas I do not have any of Sean's stuff. I shall chose to remain pure and unsullied by Mr T's professional prose as I read enough of his unprofessional stuff in hereTim_B said:
amazon has them both for $1.99 each. But then the Kindle deal of the day the other day was The Ice Twins for $1.99 also.Beverley_C said:
I read them both. I think once in a lifetime was enoughTim_B said:
Vol 2 - Claudius the God - is even tougher. I bought the books when the BBC series came out - still not read them both cover to cover in spite of several attempts.Beverley_C said:
It has been years since I read "I, Clavdivs". Heavy going though, Mills & Boon it was notMorris_Dancer said:Utterly off-topic aside: just discovered that Graves nicked the 'drills were bloodless battles and battles were bloody drills' line (spoken in I, Claudius by Drusus to Tiberius, describing how the army saw the latter as a commander) from Josephus.
I did enjoy them though0 -
I'm not biting...
unlike certain footballers loosely associated with a team from somewhere up there.0 -
I disagree, he'd need to find somebody to fund his folly which is doubtful given his arguement would be "all muslims need to rise up and kill cops, I've said that many times, I've tried to get to Iraq to kill infidels but never wanted to personally kill the police in this country"tlg86 said:
Yes, I think he will sue and he will win.oxfordsimon said:
The individual in question doesn't have convictions for violence - so he could claim that calling him a murderer is damage.danielmawbs said:
That's the point - there has been no damage to his reputation so there would be no monetary amount.oxfordsimon said:
Hard for him to claim for any damage to his reputation. It has probably increased his 'value'RobD said:
They couldn't have libeled a nicer bloke, could they?SeanT said:Wow, Channel 4 News backtracking
Huge fuck up.
It would be horrendous to see the libel laws being used to force media outlets to pay damages that would arguably be used to fund terrorism...
I can say Gary glitter interfered with a.n.other and even if it's not true it hasn't damaged his reputation so he can't sue me for libel.
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so which teams are 'clean' then on your score-card?kle4 said:
I'm not watching this game, but Spurs are a dirty team, several of the players are frequently so. That has to be a tactic.TheScreamingEagles said:
He wasn't really, I was just winding up Scrapheap.kle4 said:
Manager must encourage it - they've been a dirty team for years, it has to be intentional.TheScreamingEagles said:Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?
Dier was the victim of the bad challenge, the German player pretended to be hurt to cover up his nefariousness0 -
With Dele Alli I think it is impetuousness of youth.kle4 said:
I'm not watching this game, but Spurs are a dirty team, several of the players are frequently so. That has to be a tactic.TheScreamingEagles said:
He wasn't really, I was just winding up Scrapheap.kle4 said:
Manager must encourage it - they've been a dirty team for years, it has to be intentional.TheScreamingEagles said:Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?
Dier was the victim of the bad challenge, the German player pretended to be hurt to cover up his nefariousness
I remember when Steven Gerrard was young he committed the worst challenge I had ever seen, on Kevin Campbell, when as one Liverpool fanzine put it, 'Kevin Campbell spent the rest of his life looking for someone with a bollock donor card'0 -
May I associate myself with your comment.TheScreamingEagles said:
With Dele Alli I think it is impetuousness of youth.kle4 said:
I'm not watching this game, but Spurs are a dirty team, several of the players are frequently so. That has to be a tactic.TheScreamingEagles said:
He wasn't really, I was just winding up Scrapheap.kle4 said:
Manager must encourage it - they've been a dirty team for years, it has to be intentional.TheScreamingEagles said:Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?
Dier was the victim of the bad challenge, the German player pretended to be hurt to cover up his nefariousness
I remember when Steven Gerrard was young he committed the worst challenge I had ever seen, on Kevin Campbell, when as one Liverpool fanzine put it, 'Kevin Campbell spent the rest of his life looking for someone with a bollock donor card'0 -
All teams foul, none are entirely clean, but spurs have several players who are egregious even for footballers, there's no need to take it personally. I don't support a rival team or anything so I have no reason to have a go at them, but from the football I've watched they do appear particularly bad at that portion of the game.Scrapheap_as_was said:
so which teams are 'clean' then on your score-card?kle4 said:
I'm not watching this game, but Spurs are a dirty team, several of the players are frequently so. That has to be a tactic.TheScreamingEagles said:
He wasn't really, I was just winding up Scrapheap.kle4 said:
Manager must encourage it - they've been a dirty team for years, it has to be intentional.TheScreamingEagles said:Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?
Dier was the victim of the bad challenge, the German player pretended to be hurt to cover up his nefariousness0 -
Just think Spurs turned down the chance to sign Luis Suarez because they didn't think he was any good.Scrapheap_as_was said:I'm not biting...
unlike certain footballers loosely associated with a team from somewhere up there.
Chortle.0 -
Ann Hidalgo mayor of Paris organises act of solidarity with London
Eiffel Tower blackout tonight
Par ailleurs, dans un communiqué publié un peu plus tôt, Mme Hidalgo a adressé sa "solidarité" à son homologue londonien, Sadiq Khan, en soulignant que "Paris et Londres ont des liens étroits d'amitié, qui n'ont eu de cesse de se renforcer au fil des dernières décennies".
Les deux capitales européennes "partagent un même amour de la liberté et un même attachement à la démocratie" et "ce sont deux villes tolérantes et cosmopolites, ouvertes sur le monde, qui puisent leur force dans leur diversité", a-t-elle souligné.0 -
If Fillon gets walloped by scandal - so far he has been fairly resilient but his troubles are mounting - then some of his poll score could go to Dupont-Aignan, who would then be a phenomenon and who is already almost on the brink of becoming such. (Le Figaro.)david_herdson said:
To an extent, but if you think that Macron's odds are too short (as you imply), you have to offer a credible scenario by which he loses, commensurate with the odds you think would be fair. Where and why are the votes going to go somewhere else?Cyan said:
This isn't a general election.rcs1000 said:
Generals != Primaries
The first round in the French presidential whittles the candidates down to two in an open vote. It does for the whole spectrum what the party primaries did for parts of it.
If Macron then screws up or is outplayed in one or both of the TV debates, he might not get into the second round. Le Pen tried to own the first debate using a Netanyahu-style graph stunt which wasn't too successful, but that doesn't mean it won't be next time. We might get a bunch-up for almost equal-second place. If Macron does make it to the second round I wouldn't fancy his chances in the interround debate: he might rise to the occasion, but he could also be even more nervous than he was last time and crash out.
I have started to read Dupont-Aignan's book about his first 100 days as president (!). His brand image is very much as "Mr Clean".
And whereas the fact the Le Pen is a woman and the other leading candidates are men hasn't been relevant for most people, I am not sure that it isn't much more relevant when viewed from Moscow.
Fair odds for Macron? 2.2 maybe?
PS Note to Le Pen: use bigger type, thicker lines, and a bigger piece of card.0 -
I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.Omnium said:
It's hard to read it and not think that there is something there though. Anna Karenina too. I think I read the Cossacks too, but that didn't leave an impression.oxfordsimon said:I only got through War and Peace by taking it as my only book on a tour of Sri Lanka. Even then I skimmed a lot of War in order to get to the Peace stuff which was much more to my taste!
There was another BBC adaptation of a Russian novel around the same time - the KGB moles in the BBC were obviously trying to subvert the lumpen proletariat of the UK - but I cannot recall the title. I enjoyed that one. Something about a (disgraced?) Colonel or Captain having to do something underhand and then going on the run. Onegin? I forget which is pity because the actor was a bit of a dish
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Alanbrooke said:
Ann Hidalgo mayor of Paris organises act of solidarity with London
Eiffel Tower blackout tonight
Par ailleurs, dans un communiqué publié un peu plus tôt, Mme Hidalgo a adressé sa "solidarité" à son homologue londonien, Sadiq Khan, en soulignant que "Paris et Londres ont des liens étroits d'amitié, qui n'ont eu de cesse de se renforcer au fil des dernières décennies".
Les deux capitales européennes "partagent un même amour de la liberté et un même attachement à la démocratie" et "ce sont deux villes tolérantes et cosmopolites, ouvertes sur le monde, qui puisent leur force dans leur diversité", a-t-elle souligné.
Moreover, in a statement published earlier, Mrs. Hidalgo addressed her "solidarity" to her London counterpart, Sadiq Khan, pointing out that "Paris and London have close ties of friendship, To strengthen over the last few decades ".
The two European capitals "share the same love of freedom and a single attachment to democracy" and "these are two tolerant and cosmopolitan cities open to the world that draw their strength from their diversity", she stressed .
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How very inconvenient for Trump haters - video of Nunes statement
The Fifth Estate
Information WAS Collected
Trump Surveillance not related to Russia probe.
#wiretap #ObamaGate
https://t.co/WPh5W4JBp60 -
read it from cover from cover. It's beautifully written. Story so soSandyRentool said:
I bought a copy of W&P a couple of weeks ago - £2 for a recent(ish) hardback in the local Oxfam bookshop. I'm not sure if it is the ideal reading material while commuting - I might need a bigger rucksack.oxfordsimon said:
I only got through War and Peace by taking it as my only book on a tour of Sri Lanka. Even then I skimmed a lot of War in order to get to the Peace stuff which was much more to my taste!Beverley_C said:
I have never read "War and Peace" and I have no urge to do so, but I do know of a tale told by Isaac Asimov about it. He (Asimov) was at a dinner next to a guest he did not know and who was working hard at conversation with Asimov (one of IA's self-admitted weak points):Omnium said:
They're wonderful books. I do think that they're best read with a certain experience of life under your belt though. I'm not sure I'd have liked them if I had read them 10 years prior. I plan to read War and Peace again for roughly those sorts of reasons - I found it hard the first time.Tim_B said:
Vol 2 - Claudius the God - is even tougher. I bought the books when the BBC series came out - still not read them both cover to cover in spite of several attempts.Beverley_C said:
It has been years since I read "I, Clavdivs". Heavy going though, Mills & Boon it was notMorris_Dancer said:Utterly off-topic aside: just discovered that Graves nicked the 'drills were bloodless battles and battles were bloody drills' line (spoken in I, Claudius by Drusus to Tiberius, describing how the army saw the latter as a commander) from Josephus.
Guest: How do you think technology will affect the novel? Would War & Peace have been better if Dostoyevsky had had a word processor?
IA: No. It would have been exactly the same.
Guest: How can you be so sure of that?
IA: Because War & Peace was written by Tolstoy.
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Michael Green giving his account of the incident on Sky News.0
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He did not have sharp teeth.TheScreamingEagles said:
Just think Spurs turned down the chance to sign Luis Suarez because they didn't think he was any good.Scrapheap_as_was said:I'm not biting...
unlike certain footballers loosely associated with a team from somewhere up there.
Chortle.0 -
There's nothing wrong with developing an interest in TV programmes in that way. I recall I was quite fixated by Dallas - I seem to recall that Victoria Principal held my attention, but I've no idea what the two prominent features of her performance that did so might have been.Beverley_C said:
I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.Omnium said:
I only got through War and Peace by taking it as my only book on a tour of Sri Lanka. Even then I skimmed a lot of War in order to get to the Peace stuff which was much more to my taste!
It's hard to read it and not think that there is something there though. Anna Karenina too. I think I read the Cossacks too, but that didn't leave an impression.
There was another BBC adaptation of a Russian novel around the same time - the KGB moles in the BBC were obviously trying to subvert the lumpen proletariat of the UK - but I cannot recall the title. I enjoyed that one. Something about a (disgraced?) Colonel or Captain having to do something underhand and then going on the run. Onegin? I forget which is pity because the actor was a bit of a dish0 -
Eiffel Schmeiffel - what about the lights on Blackpool Tower?MarkHopkins said:Alanbrooke said:Ann Hidalgo mayor of Paris organises act of solidarity with London
Eiffel Tower blackout tonight
Par ailleurs, dans un communiqué publié un peu plus tôt, Mme Hidalgo a adressé sa "solidarité" à son homologue londonien, Sadiq Khan, en soulignant que "Paris et Londres ont des liens étroits d'amitié, qui n'ont eu de cesse de se renforcer au fil des dernières décennies".
Les deux capitales européennes "partagent un même amour de la liberté et un même attachement à la démocratie" et "ce sont deux villes tolérantes et cosmopolites, ouvertes sur le monde, qui puisent leur force dans leur diversité", a-t-elle souligné.
Moreover, in a statement published earlier, Mrs. Hidalgo addressed her "solidarity" to her London counterpart, Sadiq Khan, pointing out that "Paris and London have close ties of friendship, To strengthen over the last few decades ".
The two European capitals "share the same love of freedom and a single attachment to democracy" and "these are two tolerant and cosmopolitan cities open to the world that draw their strength from their diversity", she stressed .0 -
A female friend of mine was very impressed by Kevin Campbell's performance one night. It wasn't football related iircTheScreamingEagles said:
With Dele Alli I think it is impetuousness of youth.kle4 said:
I'm not watching this game, but Spurs are a dirty team, several of the players are frequently so. That has to be a tactic.TheScreamingEagles said:
He wasn't really, I was just winding up Scrapheap.kle4 said:
Manager must encourage it - they've been a dirty team for years, it has to be intentional.TheScreamingEagles said:Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?
Dier was the victim of the bad challenge, the German player pretended to be hurt to cover up his nefariousness
I remember when Steven Gerrard was young he committed the worst challenge I had ever seen, on Kevin Campbell, when as one Liverpool fanzine put it, 'Kevin Campbell spent the rest of his life looking for someone with a bollock donor card'0 -
haha another post deleted.. this is just like old times!
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The opera is quite hard going. Heard it once, not sure if it has been performed recently.Dixie said:
read it from cover from cover. It's beautifully written. Story so soSandyRentool said:
I bought a copy of W&P a couple of weeks ago - £2 for a recent(ish) hardback in the local Oxfam bookshop. I'm not sure if it is the ideal reading material while commuting - I might need a bigger rucksack.oxfordsimon said:
I only got through War and Peace by taking it as my only book on a tour of Sri Lanka. Even then I skimmed a lot of War in order to get to the Peace stuff which was much more to my taste!Beverley_C said:
I have never read "War and Peace" and I have no urge to do so, but I do know of a tale told by Isaac Asimov about it. He (Asimov) was at a dinner next to a guest he did not know and who was working hard at conversation with Asimov (one of IA's self-admitted weak points):Omnium said:
They're wonderful books. I do think that they're best read with a certain experience of life under your belt though. I'm not sure I'd have liked them if I had read them 10 years prior. I plan to read War and Peace again for roughly those sorts of reasons - I found it hard the first time.Tim_B said:
Vol 2 - Claudius the God - is even tougher. I bought the books when the BBC series came out - still not read them both cover to cover in spite of several attempts.Beverley_C said:
It has been years since I read "I, Clavdivs". Heavy going though, Mills & Boon it was notMorris_Dancer said:Utterly off-topic aside: just discovered that Graves nicked the 'drills were bloodless battles and battles were bloody drills' line (spoken in I, Claudius by Drusus to Tiberius, describing how the army saw the latter as a commander) from Josephus.
Guest: How do you think technology will affect the novel? Would War & Peace have been better if Dostoyevsky had had a word processor?
IA: No. It would have been exactly the same.
Guest: How can you be so sure of that?
IA: Because War & Peace was written by Tolstoy.
End of conversation.....
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If Fillon gets walloped by scandal - so far he has been fairly resilient but his troubles are mounting - then some of his poll score could go to Dupont-Aignan, who would then be a phenomenon and who is already almost on the brink of becoming such. (Le Figaro.)Cyan said:david_herdson said:
To an extent, but if you think that Macron's odds are too short (as you imply), you have to offer a credible scenario by which he loses, commensurate with the odds you think would be fair. Where and why are the votes going to go somewhere else?Cyan said:
This isn't a general election.rcs1000 said:
Generals != Primaries
The first round in the French presidential whittles the candidates down to two in an open vote. It does for the whole spectrum what the party primaries did for parts of it.
If Macron then screws up or is outplayed in one or both of the TV debates, he might not get into the second round. Le Pen tried to own the first debate using a Netanyahu-style graph stunt which wasn't too successful, but that doesn't mean it won't be next time. We might get a bunch-up for almost equal-second place. If Macron does make it to the second round I wouldn't fancy his chances in the interround debate: he might rise to the occasion, but he could also be even more nervous than he was last time and crash out.
I have started to read Dupont-Aignan's book about his first 100 days as president (!). His brand image is very much as "Mr Clean".
And whereas the fact the Le Pen is a woman and the other leading candidates are men hasn't been relevant for most people, I am not sure that it isn't much more relevant when viewed from Moscow.
Fair odds for Macron? 2.2 maybe?
PS Note to Le Pen: use bigger type, thicker lines, and a bigger piece of card.
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fair enough but compared to who as a benchmark?kle4 said:
All teams foul, none are entirely clean, but spurs have several players who are egregious even for footballers, there's no need to take it personally. I don't support a rival team or anything so I have no reason to have a go at them, but from the football I've watched they do appear particularly bad at that portion of the game.Scrapheap_as_was said:
so which teams are 'clean' then on your score-card?kle4 said:
I'm not watching this game, but Spurs are a dirty team, several of the players are frequently so. That has to be a tactic.TheScreamingEagles said:
He wasn't really, I was just winding up Scrapheap.kle4 said:
Manager must encourage it - they've been a dirty team for years, it has to be intentional.TheScreamingEagles said:Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?
Dier was the victim of the bad challenge, the German player pretended to be hurt to cover up his nefariousness
http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/discipline/fairplay
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Shock moment SNP politician MOANS about terror attack delaying Scottish independence vote:
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I can imagine ...... (we really need a "rolls-eyes" emoticon around here)Omnium said:I seem to recall that Victoria Principal held my attention, but I've no idea what the two prominent features of her performance that did so might have been.
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My abiding memory of Kevin Campbell is from the Arsenal 90/91 season review video (Champions only losing 1 game, a feat surely never to be beaten).. he was asked how it felt to score his first goal for the club... sat there thinking for about a minute then said he couldn't remember it!Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
A female friend of mine was very impressed by Kevin Campbell's performance one night. It wasn't football related iircTheScreamingEagles said:
With Dele Alli I think it is impetuousness of youth.kle4 said:
I'm not watching this game, but Spurs are a dirty team, several of the players are frequently so. That has to be a tactic.TheScreamingEagles said:
He wasn't really, I was just winding up Scrapheap.kle4 said:
Manager must encourage it - they've been a dirty team for years, it has to be intentional.TheScreamingEagles said:Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?
Dier was the victim of the bad challenge, the German player pretended to be hurt to cover up his nefariousness
I remember when Steven Gerrard was young he committed the worst challenge I had ever seen, on Kevin Campbell, when as one Liverpool fanzine put it, 'Kevin Campbell spent the rest of his life looking for someone with a bollock donor card'
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http://elbow.co.uk/files/2016/10/site-image-largeONSALE.jpgJackW said:0 -
You should be ashamed of yourself. Probably I am asking for too much. You and the Alt-Right queen have plumbed new depths and resorted to point scoring.Alanbrooke said:
he's the invisible manSouthamObserver said:
Maybe he is coordinating stuff. Livingstone was in Singapore in 2005. Khan is in the middle of it.Alanbrooke said:
maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisisScrapheap_as_was said:
I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.Alanbrooke said:
he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuffScrapheap_as_was said:
On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours agoPlatoSaid said:
Linky?Scrapheap_as_was said:
why isnt he on the telly
he's taking a back seat
https://twitter.com/mayoroflondon/status/844631399713947648
Rudolf Giuliani led from the fron in 9/11 even Boris got out early when responding to attacks in Paris
Equally, the Prime Minister was also not on TV. But no reasonable person would criticise her as she had many, many persons to talk to.0 -
It does raise the question of which sources can be trusted though.. obviously those deemed reliable are not anymore. Shouldn't the posts falsely naming the bloke in jail be deleted? They're still on hereRobD said:
The first rule of [blank] is you do not talk about [blank]...isam said:haha another post deleted.. this is just like old times!
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I could tell a story about a footballer .... best not commit to print though :-)Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
A female friend of mine was very impressed by Kevin Campbell's performance one night. It wasn't football related iircTheScreamingEagles said:
With Dele Alli I think it is impetuousness of youth.kle4 said:
I'm not watching this game, but Spurs are a dirty team, several of the players are frequently so. That has to be a tactic.TheScreamingEagles said:
He wasn't really, I was just winding up Scrapheap.kle4 said:
Manager must encourage it - they've been a dirty team for years, it has to be intentional.TheScreamingEagles said:Dirty Dier, like Dele Alli why are Spurs such dirty players?
Dier was the victim of the bad challenge, the German player pretended to be hurt to cover up his nefariousness
I remember when Steven Gerrard was young he committed the worst challenge I had ever seen, on Kevin Campbell, when as one Liverpool fanzine put it, 'Kevin Campbell spent the rest of his life looking for someone with a bollock donor card'0 -
She had good qualifications. Both of them.Omnium said:
There's nothing wrong with developing an interest in TV programmes in that way. I recall I was quite fixated by Dallas - I seem to recall that Victoria Principal held my attention, but I've no idea what the two prominent features of her performance that did so might have been.Beverley_C said:
I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.Omnium said:
I only got through War and Peace by taking it as my only book on a tour of Sri Lanka. Even then I skimmed a lot of War in order to get to the Peace stuff which was much more to my taste!
It's hard to read it and not think that there is something there though. Anna Karenina too. I think I read the Cossacks too, but that didn't leave an impression.
There was another BBC adaptation of a Russian novel around the same time - the KGB moles in the BBC were obviously trying to subvert the lumpen proletariat of the UK - but I cannot recall the title. I enjoyed that one. Something about a (disgraced?) Colonel or Captain having to do something underhand and then going on the run. Onegin? I forget which is pity because the actor was a bit of a dish0 -
Huge tracts of land?surbiton said:
She had good qualifications. Both of them.Omnium said:
There's nothing wrong with developing an interest in TV programmes in that way. I recall I was quite fixated by Dallas - I seem to recall that Victoria Principal held my attention, but I've no idea what the two prominent features of her performance that did so might have been.Beverley_C said:
I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.Omnium said:
I only got through War and Peace by taking it as my only book on a tour of Sri Lanka. Even then I skimmed a lot of War in order to get to the Peace stuff which was much more to my taste!
It's hard to read it and not think that there is something there though. Anna Karenina too. I think I read the Cossacks too, but that didn't leave an impression.
There was another BBC adaptation of a Russian novel around the same time - the KGB moles in the BBC were obviously trying to subvert the lumpen proletariat of the UK - but I cannot recall the title. I enjoyed that one. Something about a (disgraced?) Colonel or Captain having to do something underhand and then going on the run. Onegin? I forget which is pity because the actor was a bit of a dish0 -
May on TV live.0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZzFtjgtMvUisam said:
It does raise the question of which sources can be trusted though.. obviously those deemed reliable are not anymore. Shouldn't the posts falsely naming the bloke in jail be deleted? They're still on hereRobD said:
The first rule of [blank] is you do not talk about [blank]...isam said:haha another post deleted.. this is just like old times!
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err why ?surbiton said:
You should be ashamed of yourself. Probably I am asking for too much. You and the Alt-Right queen have plumbed new depths and resorted to point scoring.Alanbrooke said:
he's the invisible manSouthamObserver said:
Maybe he is coordinating stuff. Livingstone was in Singapore in 2005. Khan is in the middle of it.Alanbrooke said:
maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisisScrapheap_as_was said:
I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.Alanbrooke said:
he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuffScrapheap_as_was said:
On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours agoPlatoSaid said:
Linky?Scrapheap_as_was said:
why isnt he on the telly
he's taking a back seat
https://twitter.com/mayoroflondon/status/844631399713947648
Rudolf Giuliani led from the fron in 9/11 even Boris got out early when responding to attacks in Paris
Equally, the Prime Minister was also not on TV. But no reasonable person would criticise her as she had many, many persons to talk to.
I comment on a difference of style between Khan and his peers and you throw a hissy fit.
I suspect his lack of prominence will get noted in places other than here
and yes I do criticise TM for not getting a move on and making a statement0 -
LOL
as I post la Theresa appears
no sign of the Invisible Khan0 -
Dear me, how sad. You'd actually deprive yourself of the incomparable pleasure of reading one of greatest novels ever written because of some screen adaptation?Beverley_C said:I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.
You should follow Nabavi's Law: Never, ever, under any circumstances, watch a TV adaptation of a great novel which you haven't yet read. Why spoil your potential enjoyment of the real thing, on the off-chance that the pale imitation isn't too awful?0 -
She is making one nowAlanbrooke said:
err why ?surbiton said:
You should be ashamed of yourself. Probably I am asking for too much. You and the Alt-Right queen have plumbed new depths and resorted to point scoring.Alanbrooke said:
he's the invisible manSouthamObserver said:
Maybe he is coordinating stuff. Livingstone was in Singapore in 2005. Khan is in the middle of it.Alanbrooke said:
maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisisScrapheap_as_was said:
I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.Alanbrooke said:
he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuffScrapheap_as_was said:
On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours agoPlatoSaid said:
Linky?Scrapheap_as_was said:
why isnt he on the telly
he's taking a back seat
https://twitter.com/mayoroflondon/status/844631399713947648
Rudolf Giuliani led from the fron in 9/11 even Boris got out early when responding to attacks in Paris
Equally, the Prime Minister was also not on TV. But no reasonable person would criticise her as she had many, many persons to talk to.
I comment on a difference of style between Khan and his peers and you throw a hissy fit.
I suspect his lack of prominence will get noted in places other than here
and yes I do criticise TM for not getting a move on and making a statement
I don't really see why politicians need to make statements on the quick in these situations. I want to hear what the Police have to say
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May is striking a very sober and resolute tone with her comments. She will never be a great public speaker but she sounds sincere and in control.
Also pleased to hear her condemn it as an act of terrorism. No attempt to excuse it away.0 -
Mrs legohead did well there.0
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If you look downthread there was plenty of bemusement about the initial name in the frame.
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Exactly. What does a quick statement actually prove ? Look what happened to C4 on trying to be first with the news.isam said:
She is making one nowAlanbrooke said:
err why ?surbiton said:
You should be ashamed of yourself. Probably I am asking for too much. You and the Alt-Right queen have plumbed new depths and resorted to point scoring.Alanbrooke said:
he's the invisible manSouthamObserver said:
Maybe he is coordinating stuff. Livingstone was in Singapore in 2005. Khan is in the middle of it.Alanbrooke said:
maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisisScrapheap_as_was said:
I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.Alanbrooke said:
he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuffScrapheap_as_was said:
On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours agoPlatoSaid said:
Linky?Scrapheap_as_was said:
why isnt he on the telly
he's taking a back seat
https://twitter.com/mayoroflondon/status/844631399713947648
Rudolf Giuliani led from the fron in 9/11 even Boris got out early when responding to attacks in Paris
Equally, the Prime Minister was also not on TV. But no reasonable person would criticise her as she had many, many persons to talk to.
I comment on a difference of style between Khan and his peers and you throw a hissy fit.
I suspect his lack of prominence will get noted in places other than here
and yes I do criticise TM for not getting a move on and making a statement
I don't really see why politicians need to make statements on the quick in these situations. I want to hear what the Police have to say0 -
Kay Burley - Theresa May quite Churchillian0
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Star Trek:The Lack of KhanAlanbrooke said:LOL
as I post la Theresa appears
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it's the modern equivalent ofisam said:
She is making one nowAlanbrooke said:
err why ?surbiton said:
You should be ashamed of yourself. Probably I am asking for too much. You and the Alt-Right queen have plumbed new depths and resorted to point scoring.Alanbrooke said:
he's the invisible manSouthamObserver said:
Maybe he is coordinating stuff. Livingstone was in Singapore in 2005. Khan is in the middle of it.Alanbrooke said:
maybe, but part of his job is to be the focal point of London in times of crisisScrapheap_as_was said:
I prefer hearing from the police what's going on basically - as we've seen media can be trying to scoop and politicians can't win re grandstanding / hiding coin.Alanbrooke said:
he hasnt really got the grasp of this media stuffScrapheap_as_was said:
On the Mayor of London twitter feed he released a statement 3 hours agoPlatoSaid said:
Linky?Scrapheap_as_was said:
why isnt he on the telly
he's taking a back seat
https://twitter.com/mayoroflondon/status/844631399713947648
Rudolf Giuliani led from the fron in 9/11 even Boris got out early when responding to attacks in Paris
Equally, the Prime Minister was also not on TV. But no reasonable person would criticise her as she had many, many persons to talk to.
I comment on a difference of style between Khan and his peers and you throw a hissy fit.
I suspect his lack of prominence will get noted in places other than here
and yes I do criticise TM for not getting a move on and making a statement
I don't really see why politicians need to make statements on the quick in these situations. I want to hear what the Police have to say
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He was on TV at least one hour if not more before. I don't think you would be writing this unless his name was Khan.Alanbrooke said:LOL
as I post la Theresa appears
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What ever happened to double sourcing?Scrapheap_as_was said:0 -
which tv channel was thissurbiton said:
He was on TV at least one hour if not more before. I don't think you would be writing this unless his name was Khan.Alanbrooke said:LOL
as I post la Theresa appears
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Probably the most expensive mistake of his now shortened career.Scrapheap_as_was said:0 -
I saw the Superb TV adaptation of Brideshead Revisited before reading the novel. I actually enjoyed the book more after seeing the TV series. But that is very rare.Richard_Nabavi said:
Dear me, how sad. You'd actually deprive yourself of the incomparable pleasure of reading one of greatest novels ever written because of some screen adaptation?Beverley_C said:I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.
You should follow Nabavi's Law: Never, ever, under any circumstances, watch a TV adaptation of a great novel which you haven't yet read. Why spoil your potential enjoyment of the real thing, on the off-chance that the pale imitation isn't too awful?
To me this is still the best TV adaptation of a novel.0 -
Boris would have been much more pro-activesurbiton said:
He was on TV at least one hour if not more before. I don't think you would be writing this unless his name was Khan.Alanbrooke said:LOL
as I post la Theresa appears
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Ummm... yes, I suppose so. I can read "Married posh woman runs off with eligible bachelor" in OK Magazine and it will even have photos.Richard_Nabavi said:
Dear me, how sad. You'd actually deprive yourself of the incomparable pleasure of reading one of greatest novels ever written because of some screen adaptation?Beverley_C said:I did watch the BBC adaptation in the late 70s although I was probably too young to appreciate it (I was still at secondary school). I decided to skip the book on the strength of it.
I did watch the BBC mini-series of Shogun before I read the book. The book was way, way better.Richard_Nabavi said:You should follow Nabavi's Law: Never, ever, under any circumstances, watch a TV adaptation of a great novel which you haven't yet read. Why spoil you potential enjoyment of the real thing, on the off-chance that the pale imitation isn't too awful?
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ABC24
"The attack on the British Parliament is an attack on parliaments, freedom, and democracy everywhere.” @TurnbullMalcolm on #LondonAttack https://t.co/TBtrKQSddN0 -
However you look at it, it was an act of terrorism. Why wouldn't she?oxfordsimon said:May is striking a very sober and resolute tone with her comments. She will never be a great public speaker but she sounds sincere and in control.
Also pleased to hear her condemn it as an act of terrorism. No attempt to excuse it away.0 -
It's just occurred to me that fake news is an irregular verb:
I report incorrect news in good faith, you are fake news, he's being sued for slander.0 -
That adaptation was unusually good.Tim_B said:I saw the Superb TV adaptation of Brideshead Revisited before reading the novel. I actually enjoyed the book more after seeing the TV series. But that is very rare.
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