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Nicola Sturgeon's proposed timing for IndyRef2 is ridiculous. Obviously you can't hold it in the middle of the Brexit negotiations.
Equally, though, it's troublesome holding it after the Brexit negotiations, because how can we agree terms with our EU friends if we don't know what country we'll be?
The solution? Hold IndyRef2 immediately. If our Scottish brethren decide to remain in the Union, we can get on with Brexit together with them. If they decide to flounce out, we can get on with Brexit without them, and they can make their own deal with the EU27 ready for Great Separation Day.0 -
What a stupid stupid thing for Osborne to say! She wasn't made to resign because she was a woman but because she was a regulator who failed to declare a bloody great obvious potential conflict of interest.Sandpit said:
Yep. If you want to be a bank regulator, you have to be above reproach. You've got to be squeaky clean and look squeaky clean. If you want to be the person investigating people for minor breaches of onerous rules, you'd better make sure that every I is dotted and every T is crossed in your own position.TheWhiteRabbit said:
I certainly hope so. Besides, two wrongs don't make a right - she was right to resign.TheScreamingEagles said:
Conflicts of interest: recognizing them, knowing how to manage them are the absolute essence of banking and regulation. This is ABC stuff.
Still, I'm not surprised. The BoE was criticized for its failings in the FX matter. Ethics does not seem to have been its strongest suit in recent years.
5 behaviours crop up with tedious regularity:
- Greed
- Stupidity
- Complacency
- Hubris
- Cowardice.
It's Cyclefree's City Bingo. See how many of these behaviours you can spot in each scandal.
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Whatever.AlastairMeeks said:I expect the idea is that the British will hear nothing but the sound of a ticking clock for three months, and if they phone up M. Barnier, they will get put through to an answerphone that plays "Time Is On My Side".
Whatever (continued.)SeanT said:Salmond is on Bloomberg TV now saying Scotland will join the EEA, at first.
Another layer of complexity.0 -
The "Pointless Sunil" is on with a Blogger called Katy, he works in Optics and likes to watch a film a day (and has made a list of films to watch every day since the age of 9)MarqueeMark said:
Beware cheap imitations....GIN1138 said:Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....
Watching Pointless and "Sunil" from Nottingham is on!
Wonder if that could be *THE* Sunil? :mopen_mouth:
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Salmond's been calling all the shots, hasn't he?SeanT said:Salmond is on Bloomberg TV now saying Scotland will join the EEA, at first.
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I think he may well be the next Democrat president, purely on bloodlines.nunu said:Joe Kennedy.....yes of that family. Their family have good genes.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t2NIuMzaDOs0 -
Whose running the show at the mo, – the ex SNP leader/FM, or Nicola Sturgeon?SeanT said:Salmond is on Bloomberg TV now saying Scotland will join the EEA, at first.
Another layer of complexity.0 -
It can't increase much from 85%!JosiasJessop said:It's interesting to note that when Ireland voted on the EU constitution / Lisbon Treaty, the turnout increased appreciably from the first to the second vote, with a little over a year between them.
Likewise, turnout increased in the two Danish Maastrict referendums over twenty years ago.
I'd have expected a decrease between first and second. Might we see an increased turnout in Scotland for a second referendum, despite an around 85% turnout in 2014?
There will be people who have moved, are travelling, in hospital, prison or have died, as well as students registered twice. These are all counted against the turnout, even though they can't vote on the day. That 85% was probably about 95-98% in practice.0 -
Mr. Eagles, a few days ago I did sketch a 9 point plan whereby the UK (ex-Scotland) could end up remaining and an independent Scotland not be allowed in. It was mostly silly, but some parts could come true.0
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Add sex to that list, or rather the desire to get laid.Cyclefree said:
What a stupid stupid thing for Osborne to say! She wasn't made to resign because she was a woman but because she was a regulator who failed to declare a bloody great obvious potential conflict of interest.Sandpit said:
Yep. If you want to be a bank regulator, you have to be above reproach. You've got to be squeaky clean and look squeaky clean. If you want to be the person investigating people for minor breaches of onerous rules, you'd better make sure that every I is dotted and every T is crossed in your own position.TheWhiteRabbit said:
I certainly hope so. Besides, two wrongs don't make a right - she was right to resign.TheScreamingEagles said:
Conflicts of interest: recognizing them, knowing how to manage them are the absolute essence of banking and regulation. This is ABC stuff.
Still, I'm not surprised. The BoE was criticized for its failings in the FX matter. Ethics does not seem to have been its strongest suit in recent years.
5 behaviours crop up with tedious regularity:
- Greed
- Stupidity
- Complacency
- Hubris
- Cowardice.
It's Cyclefree's City Bingo. See how many of these behaviours you can spot in each scandal.
I think George has known Charlotte Hogg for years, back in the 90s George Osborne was Douglas Hogg's SPAD when Douglas Hogg was in John Major's cabinet.0 -
Mr. Nabavi, an intriguing suggestion.0
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People didn't take down their Yes posters from last time. I pass a dozen on the way to work.SeanT said:
Except, here's a very different voice from the YES side. I bet a lot of the less shrieking Nats are feeling like this. They're exhausted. They don't want another vote. They are reluctant to campaign.nunu said:
Yep, for once you make sense.AlastairMeeks said:Judging by this thread, Scotland is leaving the union. English nationalism will drive it away. Working on the basis of what suits England at the expense of Scottish interests will make the SNP's point for it.
How many will actually turn out, this time?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/14/scottish-independence-referendum-snp-vote-brexit0 -
I thought that as well, based on the Irish referendums. However the Danish Maastrict vote turnouts increased fro 83.1 to 86.5, so there was obviously room for a squeeze of DNVs.Sandpit said:
It can't increase much from 85%!JosiasJessop said:It's interesting to note that when Ireland voted on the EU constitution / Lisbon Treaty, the turnout increased appreciably from the first to the second vote, with a little over a year between them.
Likewise, turnout increased in the two Danish Maastrict referendums over twenty years ago.
I'd have expected a decrease between first and second. Might we see an increased turnout in Scotland for a second referendum, despite an around 85% turnout in 2014?
There will be people who have moved, are travelling, in hospital, prison or have died, as well as students registered twice. These are all counted against the turnout, even though they can't vote on the day. That 85% was probably about 95-98% in practice.0 -
Virtue signalling.Alistair said:
People didn't take down their Yes posters from last time. I pass a dozen on the way to work.SeanT said:
Except, here's a very different voice from the YES side. I bet a lot of the less shrieking Nats are feeling like this. They're exhausted. They don't want another vote. They are reluctant to campaign.nunu said:
Yep, for once you make sense.AlastairMeeks said:Judging by this thread, Scotland is leaving the union. English nationalism will drive it away. Working on the basis of what suits England at the expense of Scottish interests will make the SNP's point for it.
How many will actually turn out, this time?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/14/scottish-independence-referendum-snp-vote-brexit 0 -
TORY MP Craig Mackinlay was interviewed for six hours under caution last Friday over his election expenses, The Sun can reveal.
The Thanet South MP is being probed for overspending in the bitter 2015 fight to keep Ukip’s Nigel Farage out of the Commons.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3089922/tory-mp-craig-mackinlay-interviewed-by-police-about-his-election-expenses-in-2015-fight-to-keep-nigel-farage-out-of-parliament/0 -
Who is currently lending to Croatia or Hungary?Sandpit said:
The only answer is for them to move to a McPoond, then to the Euro.Cyan said:
The euro convergence criteria include that they should treat their exchange rate policy "as a matter of common interest". If they keep the pound while they're waiting to join the euro, how can they actually have an exchange rate policy, given that they'll be using some other country's currency?Pulpstar said:Scotland is DEFINITELY heading into the Euro if it becomes independent, the Nats just need to be honest about this one.
They would also have "to pursue price stability as the primary objective of monetary policy", which is a bit difficult if you haven't got a central bank and don't issue any currency.
But who's going to lend money against the McPoond to finance the public spending deficit, and what happens when almost the entire Scottish financial services sector moves to London or Dublin?
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It will be interesting to see whether there's any great difference between the new batch of 16 - 17 year-olds' opinions and the last batch.Sandpit said:
It can't increase much from 85%!JosiasJessop said:It's interesting to note that when Ireland voted on the EU constitution / Lisbon Treaty, the turnout increased appreciably from the first to the second vote, with a little over a year between them.
Likewise, turnout increased in the two Danish Maastrict referendums over twenty years ago.
I'd have expected a decrease between first and second. Might we see an increased turnout in Scotland for a second referendum, despite an around 85% turnout in 2014?
There will be people who have moved, are travelling, in hospital, prison or have died, as well as students registered twice. These are all counted against the turnout, even though they can't vote on the day. That 85% was probably about 95-98% in practice.0 -
Hang on... you might want to rethink that juxtaposition!TheScreamingEagles said:Add sex to that list, or rather the desire to get laid.
I think George has known Charlotte Hogg for years, back in the 90s George Osborne was Douglas Hogg's SPAD when Douglas Hogg was in John Major's cabinet.0 -
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Yeah, I had a bombshell just dropped on me as I wrote that.Richard_Nabavi said:
Hang on... you might want to rethink that juxtaposition!TheScreamingEagles said:Add sex to that list, or rather the desire to get laid.
I think George has known Charlotte Hogg for years, back in the 90s George Osborne was Douglas Hogg's SPAD when Douglas Hogg was in John Major's cabinet.0 -
A little unfair on those of us who are Pro Brexit, Pro Sindy.Theuniondivvie said:Golly, all the pro Brexit referendum, anti Indy referendum, pro Indy project fear, anti Brexit project fear, pro UK taking back control, anti Scotland taking back control, pro Brexit uncertainty, anti Indy uncertainty crew are in a right, old stew.
Top work lads, take a second Michelin star!0 -
There was a clue there: he didn't mention "trains" in the first four words....GIN1138 said:
The "Pointless Sunil" is on with a Blogger called Katy, he works in Optics and likes to watch a film a day (and has made a list of films to watch every day since the age of 9)MarqueeMark said:
Beware cheap imitations....GIN1138 said:Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....
Watching Pointless and "Sunil" from Nottingham is on!
Wonder if that could be *THE* Sunil? :mopen_mouth:0 -
As a reference point, the last Australian federal election had a turnout of 91%. Voting is compulsory and you get a fine for not voting. Don't know their rules about the contributing turnout factors listed above, but that's one in eleven registered voters that didn't.JosiasJessop said:
I thought that as well, based on the Irish referendums. However the Danish Maastrict vote turnouts increased fro 83.1 to 86.5, so there was obviously room for a squeeze of DNVs.Sandpit said:
It can't increase much from 85%!JosiasJessop said:It's interesting to note that when Ireland voted on the EU constitution / Lisbon Treaty, the turnout increased appreciably from the first to the second vote, with a little over a year between them.
Likewise, turnout increased in the two Danish Maastrict referendums over twenty years ago.
I'd have expected a decrease between first and second. Might we see an increased turnout in Scotland for a second referendum, despite an around 85% turnout in 2014?
There will be people who have moved, are travelling, in hospital, prison or have died, as well as students registered twice. These are all counted against the turnout, even though they can't vote on the day. That 85% was probably about 95-98% in practice.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_federal_election,_20160 -
After June the holidays start, so send the A50 letter in September when the eurocrats get back from the beach.TheScreamingEagles said:
Considering The UK took 9 months from voting to Leave to triggering Article 50 I'm sure we won't be able to complain if the EU take a few months to consider their response.RobD said:
A50 states that the two year clock starts when the letter is sent.SimonStClare said:
"The 27 other members of the EU have pinpointed a meeting of government ministers in Luxembourg on June 20 as the moment to authorize the opening of two years of talks, two EU officials said on condition of anonymity."Scott_P said:twitter.com/bpolitics/status/841697824697909249
In other words, take with a large pinch of salt...0 -
Big student population many of whom will be double counted as well.Sandpit said:
It can't increase much from 85%!JosiasJessop said:It's interesting to note that when Ireland voted on the EU constitution / Lisbon Treaty, the turnout increased appreciably from the first to the second vote, with a little over a year between them.
Likewise, turnout increased in the two Danish Maastrict referendums over twenty years ago.
I'd have expected a decrease between first and second. Might we see an increased turnout in Scotland for a second referendum, despite an around 85% turnout in 2014?
There will be people who have moved, are travelling, in hospital, prison or have died, as well as students registered twice. These are all counted against the turnout, even though they can't vote on the day. That 85% was probably about 95-98% in practice.0 -
People who charge two to three times as much as they do to lend to the UK?sarissa said:
Who is currently lending to Croatia or Hungary?Sandpit said:
The only answer is for them to move to a McPoond, then to the Euro.Cyan said:
The euro convergence criteria include that they should treat their exchange rate policy "as a matter of common interest". If they keep the pound while they're waiting to join the euro, how can they actually have an exchange rate policy, given that they'll be using some other country's currency?Pulpstar said:Scotland is DEFINITELY heading into the Euro if it becomes independent, the Nats just need to be honest about this one.
They would also have "to pursue price stability as the primary objective of monetary policy", which is a bit difficult if you haven't got a central bank and don't issue any currency.
But who's going to lend money against the McPoond to finance the public spending deficit, and what happens when almost the entire Scottish financial services sector moves to London or Dublin?0 -
Can I blame Cyclefree for getting me into that hole.AlastairMeeks said:To dig TSE out of that hole:
https://twitter.com/Peston/status/841700228910764032
The headline in that 1995 scandal should have been 'The BONK of England'0 -
Good news for lovers of This Week by election specials?AlastairMeeks said:twitter.com/KateEMcCann/status/841704081546711040
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Re: Previous Thread:
There's been a huge reversal in the betting odds in the Netherlands GE Most Seats market since Alastair's very timely thread early this morning.
The VVD have since shortened to become odds-on virtually across the board, and are as short as 1.66 (4/6), whereas the PVV have correspondingly lengthened , going out from odds-on to around 2.25 (5/4).
Great tipping from Mr Meeks it would appear.
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I wasn't including you!Richard_Tyndall said:
A little unfair on those of us who are Pro Brexit, Pro Sindy.Theuniondivvie said:Golly, all the pro Brexit referendum, anti Indy referendum, pro Indy project fear, anti Brexit project fear, pro UK taking back control, anti Scotland taking back control, pro Brexit uncertainty, anti Indy uncertainty crew are in a right, old stew.
Top work lads, take a second Michelin star!0 -
Don't let that get in the way of a meme desperately trying to gather paceRichard_Tyndall said:
A little unfair on those of us who are Pro Brexit, Pro Sindy.Theuniondivvie said:Golly, all the pro Brexit referendum, anti Indy referendum, pro Indy project fear, anti Brexit project fear, pro UK taking back control, anti Scotland taking back control, pro Brexit uncertainty, anti Indy uncertainty crew are in a right, old stew.
Top work lads, take a second Michelin star!0 -
I thought that... But he might now have wanted to make it too obvious.MarqueeMark said:
There was a clue there: he didn't mention "trains" in the first four words....GIN1138 said:
The "Pointless Sunil" is on with a Blogger called Katy, he works in Optics and likes to watch a film a day (and has made a list of films to watch every day since the age of 9)MarqueeMark said:
Beware cheap imitations....GIN1138 said:Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....
Watching Pointless and "Sunil" from Nottingham is on!
Wonder if that could be *THE* Sunil? :mopen_mouth: 0 -
The Noers brave enough to show a Bettertogether/UKOK poster will have taken theirs down because of the persistent threat of getting a Yes brick through their window. We were told on PB that this was the situation in Scotchland many, many times.Alistair said:
People didn't take down their Yes posters from last time. I pass a dozen on the way to work.SeanT said:
Except, here's a very different voice from the YES side. I bet a lot of the less shrieking Nats are feeling like this. They're exhausted. They don't want another vote. They are reluctant to campaign.nunu said:
Yep, for once you make sense.AlastairMeeks said:Judging by this thread, Scotland is leaving the union. English nationalism will drive it away. Working on the basis of what suits England at the expense of Scottish interests will make the SNP's point for it.
How many will actually turn out, this time?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/14/scottish-independence-referendum-snp-vote-brexit0 -
Or those of us that are pro-Brexit and ambidextrous about Sindy...Richard_Tyndall said:
A little unfair on those of us who are Pro Brexit, Pro Sindy.Theuniondivvie said:Golly, all the pro Brexit referendum, anti Indy referendum, pro Indy project fear, anti Brexit project fear, pro UK taking back control, anti Scotland taking back control, pro Brexit uncertainty, anti Indy uncertainty crew are in a right, old stew.
Top work lads, take a second Michelin star! 0 -
Tully East rescues an otherwise miserable day at Cheltenham.0
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Sounds serious...AlastairMeeks said:0 -
No shit? Me too.Pulpstar said:
June 20th is my birthdayRobD said:
Fair enough, although one wonders what they've been up to in the interim. The point still stands though, it won't be two years of talks from June 20th, it'll be one year and nine months. /pedantTheScreamingEagles said:
Considering The UK took 9 months from voting to Leave to triggering Article 50 I'm sure we won't be able to complain if the EU take a few months to consider their response.RobD said:
A50 states that the two year clock starts when the letter is sent.SimonStClare said:
"The 27 other members of the EU have pinpointed a meeting of government ministers in Luxembourg on June 20 as the moment to authorize the opening of two years of talks, two EU officials said on condition of anonymity."Scott_P said:twitter.com/bpolitics/status/841697824697909249
In other words, take with a large pinch of salt...
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:!Casino_Royale said:
No shit? Me too.Pulpstar said:
June 20th is my birthdayRobD said:
Fair enough, although one wonders what they've been up to in the interim. The point still stands though, it won't be two years of talks from June 20th, it'll be one year and nine months. /pedantTheScreamingEagles said:
Considering The UK took 9 months from voting to Leave to triggering Article 50 I'm sure we won't be able to complain if the EU take a few months to consider their response.RobD said:
A50 states that the two year clock starts when the letter is sent.SimonStClare said:
"The 27 other members of the EU have pinpointed a meeting of government ministers in Luxembourg on June 20 as the moment to authorize the opening of two years of talks, two EU officials said on condition of anonymity."Scott_P said:twitter.com/bpolitics/status/841697824697909249
In other words, take with a large pinch of salt...0 -
On the one hand,on the other hand, eh?GIN1138 said:
Or those of us that are pro-Brexit and ambidextrous about Sindy...Richard_Tyndall said:
A little unfair on those of us who are Pro Brexit, Pro Sindy.Theuniondivvie said:Golly, all the pro Brexit referendum, anti Indy referendum, pro Indy project fear, anti Brexit project fear, pro UK taking back control, anti Scotland taking back control, pro Brexit uncertainty, anti Indy uncertainty crew are in a right, old stew.
Top work lads, take a second Michelin star!0 -
"Yet despite increases in funding and multiple reforms, there has been little improvement in the educational attainment of the bottom quarter of school students: 17 per cent of students leave school functionally illiterate and 22 per cent are effectively innumerate. These figures are comparable with Albania. As a criteria for success in our modern economy—and by extension our economically fixated society—cognitive ability overshadowed character, competence or experience. The state coped with globalisation not through the reproduction of skills but through the generalisation of knowledge. The result has been a polarised labour market that has created our polarised politics."
http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/why-brexit-is-a-chance-for-national-renewal0 -
Ouch.Pulpstar said:I'm down £70 on £105 of stakes. Hoping Rutte can pay for it tommorow, and the rest.......
Fortunately the festivities tomorrow on course have been generously sponsored by PaddyPower this year...
Stake and Return Details
Bet placed at 9th of February 2017 3:19 pm Total Stake £20.00
Bet type Double (Each-Way) Tax@Tax free 0
Number of lines 2 Total stake due £20.00
Stake per line £10.00 Freebets Redeemed £0.00
Channel Internet Total amount paid £20.00
Number of win lines 2
Number of void lines 0 Standard Returns £394.00
Total Returns £394.000 -
IPSOS : VVD 29 seats, CDA 23 seats, PVV 20 seats.0
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F1: meanwhile, in fabulous news:
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Which horses were those ?Scott_P said:
Ouch.Pulpstar said:I'm down £70 on £105 of stakes. Hoping Rutte can pay for it tommorow, and the rest.......
Fortunately the festivities tomorrow on course have been generously sponsored by PaddyPower this year...
Stake and Return Details
Bet placed at 9th of February 2017 3:19 pm Total Stake £20.00
Bet type Double (Each-Way) Tax@Tax free 0
Number of lines 2 Total stake due £20.00
Stake per line £10.00 Freebets Redeemed £0.00
Channel Internet Total amount paid £20.00
Number of win lines 2
Number of void lines 0 Standard Returns £394.00
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NickPalmer said:
On the one hand,on the other hand, eh?GIN1138 said:
Or those of us that are pro-Brexit and ambidextrous about Sindy...Richard_Tyndall said:
A little unfair on those of us who are Pro Brexit, Pro Sindy.Theuniondivvie said:Golly, all the pro Brexit referendum, anti Indy referendum, pro Indy project fear, anti Brexit project fear, pro UK taking back control, anti Scotland taking back control, pro Brexit uncertainty, anti Indy uncertainty crew are in a right, old stew.
Top work lads, take a second Michelin star!
Not keen on that colour...Morris_Dancer said:F1: meanwhile, in fabulous news:
https://twitter.com/ForceIndiaF1/status/8416353958047744000 -
Selection Selection Details ResultPulpstar said:Which horses were those ?
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Horse Racing
DONCASTER
15:30 HANDICAP HURDLE 3m 84y
9th of February 2017 3:30 pm
Win or E/W
1/5 places 1,2,3
Three Ways @ 6/1 (GP)
Win
Selection Selection Details Result
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Horse Racing
HUNTINGDON
15:20 HANDICAP CHASE 2m 3f 189y
9th of February 2017 3:20 pm
Win or E/W
1/4 places 1,2,3
Song Saa @ 4/1 (GP)
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Lots of people, but at higher rates than lending to the UK or Genrmany.sarissa said:
Who is currently lending to Croatia or Hungary?Sandpit said:
The only answer is for them to move to a McPoond, then to the Euro.Cyan said:
The euro convergence criteria include that they should treat their exchange rate policy "as a matter of common interest". If they keep the pound while they're waiting to join the euro, how can they actually have an exchange rate policy, given that they'll be using some other country's currency?Pulpstar said:Scotland is DEFINITELY heading into the Euro if it becomes independent, the Nats just need to be honest about this one.
They would also have "to pursue price stability as the primary objective of monetary policy", which is a bit difficult if you haven't got a central bank and don't issue any currency.
But who's going to lend money against the McPoond to finance the public spending deficit, and what happens when almost the entire Scottish financial services sector moves to London or Dublin?
The biggest issue is that a new Scottish government wouldn't have a credit rating with lenders, which will initially made it difficult and expensive to sell debt. Ideally they would probably want to move directly from the Pound to the Euro, but that's not possible due to Euro entry convergence criteria, which require an incoming country to have their own currency and use monetary policy to hold it steady in ERM II. They could try and fix a Scottish Pound to a British Pound, but would need to tightly control public spending and push exports, against a lot of speculators betting against the peg - they would need a lot of hard currency reserves which would be difficult to accumulate quickly.
It's a big problem for any new country, especially so if they wish to join the Euro and have a sizeable financial services industry. These are just economic issues rather than political issues.0 -
Mr Dancer, does it have a matching pink parasol like Penelope Pitstop..?Morris_Dancer said:F1: meanwhile, in fabulous news:
https://twitter.com/ForceIndiaF1/status/8416353958047744000 -
@SkyNewsBreak: Leaked emails seen by Sky News suggest Conservative MPs are being used as scapegoats by their party over 2015 election mis-spending claims0
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@faisalislam: Our @tamcohen has exclusive leaked internal Conservative emails on #electionexpenses live on @SkyNews now0
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'I'll just bolt that stable door, now, where's my horse?Scott_P said:0 -
Civil war is about to start in the Tory Party.Scott_P said:@SkyNewsBreak: Leaked emails seen by Sky News suggest Conservative MPs are being used as scapegoats by their party over 2015 election mis-spending claims
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Ah, a politician has come to town. The country will be united. But not in the way she hopes.Scott_P said:0 -
Well we won't be mistaking them for anything else! Hideous colour scheme.Morris_Dancer said:F1: meanwhile, in fabulous news:
https://twitter.com/ForceIndiaF1/status/8416353958047744000 -
NEW THREAD
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If it didn't start over Europe, I don't think it is going to start after this.tlg86 said:
Civil war is about to start in the Tory Party.Scott_P said:@SkyNewsBreak: Leaked emails seen by Sky News suggest Conservative MPs are being used as scapegoats by their party over 2015 election mis-spending claims
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Hmm..... given that you added sex to my list and then refer to being in a hole it is just as well my other half does not read PB.TheScreamingEagles said:
Can I blame Cyclefree for getting me into that hole.AlastairMeeks said:To dig TSE out of that hole:
https://twitter.com/Peston/status/841700228910764032
The headline in that 1995 scandal should have been 'The BONK of England'
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That horse was going to bolt anyway.....but where to? The EU? The EEA? Timbuktu?Theuniondivvie said:
'I'll just bolt that stable door, now, where's my horse?Scott_P said:0 -
I don't suppose my near namesake PtP has posted on PB.com today to share the benefit of his tips for the first day of the Cheltenham Festival.
I had hoped against hope that he might have made a rare guest appearance, but seemingly not.
Peter, should you read this, you're greatly missed.0 -
And, as that Wiki link demonstrates, many countries never recognised their annexation.rcs1000 said:
That might be because they were forced into the Soviet Union through invasion 45 years earlier.williamglenn said:
Well the Baltic states walked away from their Soviet debts and have been welcomed into the EU.SeanT said:Walking away would turn it into a financial pariah. It would also deeply complicate its bid to join the EU. Some countries might want to veto a country that refuses to pay its debts. Like, say, Spain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_continuity_of_the_Baltic_states
On 4 December 1991 the former republics of the Soviet Union signed the treaty on the division of the Soviet foreign debt. The Baltic states refused to sign. In 1993, the Russian Federation announced it would alone be responsible for the debt.0
