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Brown was facing Cameron in 2010 he would have beaten Howard in 2005AndyJS said:I guess the big question at the moment is if the Tories win enormous victories at the local elections in a few weeks' time will they still refuse to hold an early election? They must be thinking about what happened with Brown in 2007. Labour could be facing a meltdown in the shire counties where a lot of the marginals are located.
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Corbyn is a Bourbon.CarlottaVance said:
Corbyn could easily learn from Robertson - simple focussed questions, not a half baked ramble around the houses.SandyRentool said:
Now you know the answer to that already, you are just wanting one of us in the red corner to spell it out!TheScreamingEagles said:Why is it that Angus Robertson with two questions puts Mrs May under more pressure than Jeremy Corbyn's six questions?
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They get the best international academic results thoughSouthamObserver said:
Singapore and education - handle with extreme care:HYUFD said:
Top PISA ranked Singapore effectively selects at 13TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
She has an obsession with grammar schools, what is it with people who went to grammar schools, if grammar schools are so good, how come nobody who attended one can differentiate between personal experience and statistical evidence?Sean_F said:Theresa May is a pretty centrist, standard, kind of Conservative. I don't understand your loathing for her.
But she really annoyed me the day she became PM, she sacked people who had served the Tory party with distinction and honour, for years, and for leaders long before Dave.
That smacked of all the hallmarks of a bully.
She was quite cruel, the way Downing Street works, on a security level, you have put your mobile, wallets, and keys in another part of the building.
She sacked them, and took away their heart passes, which meant they couldn't retrieve their personal possessions.
It was said David Cameron on May the 8th 2015 acted with honour and sensitivity to the Lib Dem SPADS etc.
The ironic thing is, within a few months Mrs May tried to get some of them back, to which many of them told her with great pleasure to get stuffed.
And don't even get me started on the Tory conference...
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I can see pros and cons, but it's never struck me as being an issue that's worth getting very excited about.midwinter said:
Bit silly to plough money into grammar schools when so many local authorities are unfairly underfunded wrt education, regardless of the ideology behind it.Sean_F said:
Without knowing the facts of that case, I can't comment. I would say that people I know who are acquainted with Theresa May like her a lot.TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
She has an obsession with grammar schools, what is it with people who went to grammar schools, if grammar schools are so good, how come nobody who attended one can differentiate between personal experience and statistical evidence?Sean_F said:Theresa May is a pretty centrist, standard, kind of Conservative. I don't understand your loathing for her.
But she really annoyed me the day she became PM, she sacked people who had served the Tory party with distinction and honour, for years, and for leaders long before Dave.
That smacked of all the hallmarks of a bully.
She was quite cruel, the way Downing Street works, on a security level, you have put your mobile, wallets, and keys in another part of the building.
She sacked them, and took away their heart passes, which meant they couldn't retrieve their personal possessions.
It was said David Cameron on May the 8th 2015 acted with honour and sensitivity to the Lib Dem SPADS etc.
The ironic thing is, within a few months Mrs May tried to get some of them back, to which many of them told her with great pleasure to get stuffed.
And don't even get me started on the Tory conference...
WRT grammar schools, you do come over as a bit Anthony Crossland.0 -
Andrew Sparrow:
Snap PMQs verdict: The recording that emerged yesterday about the Surrey council leader suggesting that he had a “gentleman’s agreement” with the government about extra funding for the council suggests there is something distinctly fishy about this whole affair, and raises questions about quite how honest Theresa May was being when she dismissed the whole thing at PMQs a few weeks ago, but to actually prove at PMQs that May was in the wrong would have required great forensic skill, and Corbyn was not up to the task. Robin Cook might have managed it, or Yvette Cooper could have had a good go, but May brushed aside Corbyn aside with her first, lawyerly-worded answer, and Corbyn then never got much further. It is not easy to see how he could have done better, but perhaps he could have focused on when Surrey was told it could pilot the business rates retention system (before others?). Or pressed her as to how much this would benefit Surrey financially? After that Corbyn moved on to grammar schools, but although he had a perfectly good point to make, he could not convert this into a question that unsettled May. So, all told, she had a very easy run (which will be forgotten about as soon as the budget starts.)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/mar/08/budget-2017-philip-hammond-chancellor-spending-tax-brexit-schools-nhs-growth-borrowing-live?CMP=share_btn_tw0 -
I voted for him in 2015 as the "Shit or Bust" candidate, when all else was vanilla.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well you did vote for him, so perhaps you could explain.SandyRentool said:
Now you know the answer to that already, you are just wanting one of us in the red corner to spell it out!TheScreamingEagles said:Why is it that Angus Robertson with two questions puts Mrs May under more pressure than Jeremy Corbyn's six questions?
(And yes, it was a rhetorical question)
As it was soon apparent that he was a "Bust", I voted against him last year. (Yes, others will say I should have known that in advance, but would be really leading in the polls if Andy Burnham was our leader?)0 -
Peter Bottomley?TheScreamingEagles said:My second favourite man crush asking a question at PMQs right now
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Bingo, a bonus woman.0
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Burnham would not have led Labour to a potential electoral wipe out that Corbyn might.SandyRentool said:
I voted for him in 2015 as the "Shit or Bust" candidate, when all else was vanilla.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well you did vote for him, so perhaps you could explain.SandyRentool said:
Now you know the answer to that already, you are just wanting one of us in the red corner to spell it out!TheScreamingEagles said:Why is it that Angus Robertson with two questions puts Mrs May under more pressure than Jeremy Corbyn's six questions?
(And yes, it was a rhetorical question)
As it was soon apparent that he was a "Bust", I voted against him last year. (Yes, others will say I should have known that in advance, but would be really leading in the polls if Andy Burnham was our leader?)
Burnham is underestimated, he attended the finest university in the world.0 -
Labour don't have all that many seats at stake, but Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire (Labour control) Lancashire and Cumbria (Labour largest party) and Staffordshire and Warwickshire (substantial Labour representation) are the ones to watch.AndyJS said:I guess the big question at the moment is if the Tories win enormous victories at the local elections in a few weeks' time will they still refuse to hold an early election? They must be thinking about what happened with Brown in 2007. Labour could be facing a meltdown in the shire counties where a lot of the marginals are located.
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Johnny Mercer.Sean_F said:
Peter Bottomley?TheScreamingEagles said:My second favourite man crush asking a question at PMQs right now
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Hmm.... I'm not sure about that to be honest. I think we could have continued bumbling along okay within the EU. President Trump also would probably have made Brexit look much less attractive and strengthened the case for the UK having strong ties with Europe.david_herdson said:
That's simplistic. A Miliband government would have likely engaged in the EU with the intent of Blair but without the skill. The blowback from the media and public after making goodwill gestures and signing up to unwanted cooperation while getting little to nothing in return would have been significant. Miliband himself would likely have had an extremely poor approval rating (he did as LotO, which is a much easier job, PR-wise, than PM), and Labour would have leaked more votes to the still-Farage-led UKIP.Pulpstar said:Any remainer who would not have preferred the counterfactual of a Miliband government to the present situation is clearly 'intensely relaxed' regarding Brexit.
Meanwhile, the Tories would have had a leadership contest to replace Cameron, with a good chance of Brexit Boris winning.
Quite how it all would have played out is anyone's guess but it's difficult to see that there wouldn't have been a reckoning towards the back-end of this decade or the beginning of the next one, with Leave in a much stronger position than it was in 2016.
Which is to say that given what we know now, it's highly likely that Brexit would have happened one way or another, unless someone had made a convincing positive case for the EU - and the EU had engaged in enabling a convincing positive case to be made.
I do think also that Ed M. was much more focused and forceful on inequality and improving opportunities and results for those left behind... those are the people who voted for Brexit and pushed it over the top.
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Eric Pickles is the spitting image of Baron Harkonnen from Dune.JackW said:
A man crush .... I missed that. What was Eric Pickles question?TheScreamingEagles said:My second favourite man crush asking a question at PMQs right now
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When Amanda Milling asked her question, as May, Hunt and Hammond were laughing, TM the PM pointed at the opposition benches and said "Look at *** ***'s face!"
Can anyone lip read? Who she was referring to?0 -
Even a wipeout leaves May with needing to engineer a really good reason, given she has said repeatedly there won't be one.Sean_F said:
Labour don't have all that many seats at stake, but Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire (Labour control) Lancashire and Cumbria (Labour largest party) and Staffordshire and Warwickshire (substantial Labour representation) are the ones to watch.AndyJS said:I guess the big question at the moment is if the Tories win enormous victories at the local elections in a few weeks' time will they still refuse to hold an early election? They must be thinking about what happened with Brown in 2007. Labour could be facing a meltdown in the shire counties where a lot of the marginals are located.
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Haters will still hate
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/03/08/president-trump-just-appointed-an-out-gay-man-to-one-of-the-biggest-jobs-in-his-administration/
"President Trump is set to appoint an openly gay official to one of the biggest jobs in his administration.
According to a White House official, Trump will appoint Richard Grenell, an openly gay diplomat, this week.
He will become the president’s ambassador to NATO, making him the highest profile LGBT official in government.0 -
I think these comparisons are probably a bit meaningless because they're implicitly based on the idea that if you put children from one country into another country's education system they would suddenly get pretty much the same results. But in fact I think it's more likely that if — for example — you put children from Finland through Singapore's education system, or vice versa, the results would be disastrous because the basic cultural assumptions of each country are often so different.rottenborough said:
Finland is 5th. No selection.SouthamObserver said:
Singapore and education - handle with extreme care:HYUFD said:
Top PISA ranked Singapore effectively selects at 13TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
She has an obsession with grammar schools, what is it with people who went to grammar schools, if grammar schools are so good, how come nobody who attended one can differentiate between personal experience and statistical evidence?Sean_F said:Theresa May is a pretty centrist, standard, kind of Conservative. I don't understand your loathing for her.
But she really annoyed me the day she became PM, she sacked people who had served the Tory party with distinction and honour, for years, and for leaders long before Dave.
That smacked of all the hallmarks of a bully.
She was quite cruel, the way Downing Street works, on a security level, you have put your mobile, wallets, and keys in another part of the building.
She sacked them, and took away their heart passes, which meant they couldn't retrieve their personal possessions.
It was said David Cameron on May the 8th 2015 acted with honour and sensitivity to the Lib Dem SPADS etc.
The ironic thing is, within a few months Mrs May tried to get some of them back, to which many of them told her with great pleasure to get stuffed.
And don't even get me started on the Tory conference...
http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/lets-kill-the-drill-approach-in-schools0 -
Did the commons vote on Cameron's negotiation before it was put to the country?0
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Timing would still be problematic post May 4th. The earliest election date possible would then be June 15th - but only if Corbyn agrees to it. If he declines to do so , we would be looking at June 29th or July 6th. Many would suggest that takes us too far into the Summer holiday period.AndyJS said:I guess the big question at the moment is if the Tories win enormous victories at the local elections in a few weeks' time will they still refuse to hold an early election? They must be thinking about what happened with Brown in 2007. Labour could be facing a meltdown in the shire counties where a lot of the marginals are located.
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Sean_F said:
Eric Pickles is the spitting image of Baron Harkonnen from Dune.JackW said:
A man crush .... I missed that. What was Eric Pickles question?TheScreamingEagles said:My second favourite man crush asking a question at PMQs right now
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The Midlands will be a bloodbath for Labour.Sean_F said:
Labour don't have all that many seats at stake, but Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire (Labour control) Lancashire and Cumbria (Labour largest party) and Staffordshire and Warwickshire (substantial Labour representation) are the ones to watch.AndyJS said:I guess the big question at the moment is if the Tories win enormous victories at the local elections in a few weeks' time will they still refuse to hold an early election? They must be thinking about what happened with Brown in 2007. Labour could be facing a meltdown in the shire counties where a lot of the marginals are located.
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Yes, I need to find out how many of Labour's crucial targets are in the shire counties.Sean_F said:
Labour don't have all that many seats at stake, but Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire (Labour control) Lancashire and Cumbria (Labour largest party) and Staffordshire and Warwickshire (substantial Labour representation) are the ones to watch.AndyJS said:I guess the big question at the moment is if the Tories win enormous victories at the local elections in a few weeks' time will they still refuse to hold an early election? They must be thinking about what happened with Brown in 2007. Labour could be facing a meltdown in the shire counties where a lot of the marginals are located.
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I really do not think TM will call an election before 2020 unless something very unexpected happensrottenborough said:
Even a wipeout leaves May with needing to engineer a really good reason, given she has said repeatedly there won't be one.Sean_F said:
Labour don't have all that many seats at stake, but Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire (Labour control) Lancashire and Cumbria (Labour largest party) and Staffordshire and Warwickshire (substantial Labour representation) are the ones to watch.AndyJS said:I guess the big question at the moment is if the Tories win enormous victories at the local elections in a few weeks' time will they still refuse to hold an early election? They must be thinking about what happened with Brown in 2007. Labour could be facing a meltdown in the shire counties where a lot of the marginals are located.
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Burnham would have led us to defeat in 2020, of that I am sure. With Corbyn, it was clear that things would change, and a chance that that would work to our advantage - it still might if he is replaced by a "PM in waiting" prior to 2020 with the right blend of radical/populist/funded policies to excite the electorate. Or we might just get hammered.TheScreamingEagles said:
Burnham would not have led Labour to a potential electoral wipe out that Corbyn might.SandyRentool said:
I voted for him in 2015 as the "Shit or Bust" candidate, when all else was vanilla.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well you did vote for him, so perhaps you could explain.SandyRentool said:
Now you know the answer to that already, you are just wanting one of us in the red corner to spell it out!TheScreamingEagles said:Why is it that Angus Robertson with two questions puts Mrs May under more pressure than Jeremy Corbyn's six questions?
(And yes, it was a rhetorical question)
As it was soon apparent that he was a "Bust", I voted against him last year. (Yes, others will say I should have known that in advance, but would be really leading in the polls if Andy Burnham was our leader?)
Burnham is underestimated, he attended the finest university in the world.0 -
So what? They teach their children how to answer exam questions.HYUFD said:
They get the best international academic results thoughSouthamObserver said:
Singapore and education - handle with extreme care:HYUFD said:
Top PISA ranked Singapore effectively selects at 13TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
She has an obsession with grammar schools, what is it with people who went to grammar schools, if grammar schools are so good, how come nobody who attended one can differentiate between personal experience and statistical evidence?Sean_F said:Theresa May is a pretty centrist, standard, kind of Conservative. I don't understand your loathing for her.
But she really annoyed me the day she became PM, she sacked people who had served the Tory party with distinction and honour, for years, and for leaders long before Dave.
That smacked of all the hallmarks of a bully.
She was quite cruel, the way Downing Street works, on a security level, you have put your mobile, wallets, and keys in another part of the building.
She sacked them, and took away their heart passes, which meant they couldn't retrieve their personal possessions.
It was said David Cameron on May the 8th 2015 acted with honour and sensitivity to the Lib Dem SPADS etc.
The ironic thing is, within a few months Mrs May tried to get some of them back, to which many of them told her with great pleasure to get stuffed.
And don't even get me started on the Tory conference...
http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/lets-kill-the-drill-approach-in-schools
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...and then they cant complete simple immigration forms!SouthamObserver said:
So what? They teach their children how to answer exam questions.HYUFD said:
They get the best international academic results thoughSouthamObserver said:
Singapore and education - handle with extreme care:HYUFD said:
Top PISA ranked Singapore effectively selects at 13TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
She has an obsession with grammar schools, what is it with people who went to grammar schools, if grammar schools are so good, how come nobody who attended one can differentiate between personal experience and statistical evidence?Sean_F said:Theresa May is a pretty centrist, standard, kind of Conservative. I don't understand your loathing for her.
But she really annoyed me the day she became PM, she sacked people who had served the Tory party with distinction and honour, for years, and for leaders long before Dave.
That smacked of all the hallmarks of a bully.
She was quite cruel, the way Downing Street works, on a security level, you have put your mobile, wallets, and keys in another part of the building.
She sacked them, and took away their heart passes, which meant they couldn't retrieve their personal possessions.
It was said David Cameron on May the 8th 2015 acted with honour and sensitivity to the Lib Dem SPADS etc.
The ironic thing is, within a few months Mrs May tried to get some of them back, to which many of them told her with great pleasure to get stuffed.
And don't even get me started on the Tory conference...
http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/lets-kill-the-drill-approach-in-schools0 -
Spreadsheets a 16/1 winner.
Anyone get on?0 -
So far a couple of good gags from Phil0
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Spreadsheet Phil excels himself.0
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If the money is available to be invested it's better to adequately fund the counties who don't get a fair deal before anything else surely?Sean_F said:
I can see pros and cons, but it's never struck me as being an issue that's worth getting very excited about.midwinter said:
Bit silly to plough money into grammar schools when so many local authorities are unfairly underfunded wrt education, regardless of the ideology behind it.Sean_F said:
Without knowing the facts of that case, I can't comment. I would say that people I know who are acquainted with Theresa May like her a lot.TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
She has an obsession with grammar schools, what is it with people who went to grammar schools, if grammar schools are so good, how come nobody who attended one can differentiate between personal experience and statistical evidence?Sean_F said:Theresa May is a pretty centrist, standard, kind of Conservative. I don't understand your loathing for her.
But she really annoyed me the day she became PM, she sacked people who had served the Tory party with distinction and honour, for years, and for leaders long before Dave.
That smacked of all the hallmarks of a bully.
She was quite cruel, the way Downing Street works, on a security level, you have put your mobile, wallets, and keys in another part of the building.
She sacked them, and took away their heart passes, which meant they couldn't retrieve their personal possessions.
It was said David Cameron on May the 8th 2015 acted with honour and sensitivity to the Lib Dem SPADS etc.
The ironic thing is, within a few months Mrs May tried to get some of them back, to which many of them told her with great pleasure to get stuffed.
And don't even get me started on the Tory conference...
WRT grammar schools, you do come over as a bit Anthony Crossland.-1 -
Essex boys always have the best jokesTheScreamingEagles said:So far a couple of good gags from Phil
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Given that Labour is polling 28% under Corbyn , it must be likely that Burnham would have at least matched the 31.2% achieved by Milliband in 2015. Starmer, Jarvis or Benn would be likely to raise Labour's vote share to circa 35% in 2020.SandyRentool said:
Burnham would have led us to defeat in 2020, of that I am sure. With Corbyn, it was clear that things would change, and a chance that that would work to our advantage - it still might if he is replaced by a "PM in waiting" prior to 2020 with the right blend of radical/populist/funded policies to excite the electorate. Or we might just get hammered.TheScreamingEagles said:
Burnham would not have led Labour to a potential electoral wipe out that Corbyn might.SandyRentool said:
I voted for him in 2015 as the "Shit or Bust" candidate, when all else was vanilla.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well you did vote for him, so perhaps you could explain.SandyRentool said:
Now you know the answer to that already, you are just wanting one of us in the red corner to spell it out!TheScreamingEagles said:Why is it that Angus Robertson with two questions puts Mrs May under more pressure than Jeremy Corbyn's six questions?
(And yes, it was a rhetorical question)
As it was soon apparent that he was a "Bust", I voted against him last year. (Yes, others will say I should have known that in advance, but would be really leading in the polls if Andy Burnham was our leader?)
Burnham is underestimated, he attended the finest university in the world.0 -
Just his speechwriter I expect!TheScreamingEagles said:Spreadsheets a 16/1 winner.
Anyone get on?0 -
How long has he been going for ?
Was my woman a winner ?0 -
About 9 minutes so far and I think the woman was a winner.Pulpstar said:How long has he been going for ?
Was my woman a winner ?0 -
Arf!
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Another good gag from Phil
'They don't call it the last Labour government for nothing'0 -
"....they don't call it the last Labour Government for nothing...."0
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I actually laughed out loud . lol.MarqueeMark said:"....they don't call it the last Labour Government for nothing...."
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"They don't call it the last Labour government for nothing"
What an improvement! Great jokes at the budget instead of a grating voice!0 -
One for the News bulletins....isam said:"They don't call it the last Labour government for nothing"
What an improvement! Great jokes at the budget instead of a grating voice!0 -
Come on Phil, commend it to the house0
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Gah. Quarterly reporting delayed only for those biz below VAT threshold.
Was hoping he was going to say microbusinesses.0 -
Burnham isn't underestimated by himself!TheScreamingEagles said:
Burnham would not have led Labour to a potential electoral wipe out that Corbyn might.SandyRentool said:
I voted for him in 2015 as the "Shit or Bust" candidate, when all else was vanilla.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well you did vote for him, so perhaps you could explain.SandyRentool said:
Now you know the answer to that already, you are just wanting one of us in the red corner to spell it out!TheScreamingEagles said:Why is it that Angus Robertson with two questions puts Mrs May under more pressure than Jeremy Corbyn's six questions?
(And yes, it was a rhetorical question)
As it was soon apparent that he was a "Bust", I voted against him last year. (Yes, others will say I should have known that in advance, but would be really leading in the polls if Andy Burnham was our leader?)
Burnham is underestimated, he attended the finest university in the world.0 -
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Exactly my response. People who drill are good at drills. They are not anywhere near as good at applying the knowledge or skills drilled to everyday challenges as those who are taught in a more realistic, multiple skills simultaneously, problem-solving curriculum, even if the latter score lower on the tests.SouthamObserver said:
So what? They teach their children how to answer exam questions.HYUFD said:
They get the best international academic results though
This is not just theory, it is practical advise applied by top coaches in sports and in other arenas.0 -
Looks like Phil Hammond is about to hit the self employed.0
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Its the 20-50k PAYE army that wins elections.TheScreamingEagles said:Looks like Phil Hammond is about to hit the self employed.
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I was right.TheScreamingEagles said:Looks like Phil Hammond is about to hit the self employed.
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To be honest this makes sense with regard to NICs.TheScreamingEagles said:Looks like Phil Hammond is about to hit the self employed.
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It does.Mortimer said:
To be honest this makes sense with regard to NICs.TheScreamingEagles said:Looks like Phil Hammond is about to hit the self employed.
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VAT is a simple four-figure form and signing a cheque, or it used to be before bloody online VAT. Income tax is a nightmare and one increasingly needs to pay an accountant as well as carry tax investigation insurance, because believe me you don't want to be alone faced with these people if they decide to get heavy.Pulpstar said:
Quarterly reporting delayed for what ? VAT or corp tax comps ?Mortimer said:Gah. Quarterly reporting delayed only for those biz below VAT threshold.
Was hoping he was going to say microbusinesses.
Customs and Excise apparently had a more straightforward way of working from the Inland Revenue. It still seems to do so. The merger, designed by one Mr. G. Brown, created a monster. See hmrcisshite.blogspot.co.uk0 -
I was a bit worried but in the end 1% is not that bad. I feared worse.Mortimer said:
To be honest this makes sense with regard to NICs.TheScreamingEagles said:Looks like Phil Hammond is about to hit the self employed.
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Introducing UK VAT on roaming telecoms services
What's this about? VAT is already on cellphones services etc.0 -
*sighs*
So, more NI for me to pay. Bugger.
Edited extra bit: just keeping up to date here, not watching it. One percent's still 1% more than I'd like, but cheers for the actual figure, Mr. L.0 -
Isn't it a 2% increase by 2019?DavidL said:
I was a bit worried but in the end 1% is not that bad. I feared worse.Mortimer said:
To be honest this makes sense with regard to NICs.TheScreamingEagles said:Looks like Phil Hammond is about to hit the self employed.
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Good move by Hammond on NICs to pay for social care0
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Anyway, I have to be off. Hope all your bets come off.0
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Osborne's Brexit punishment budget strikes.Morris_Dancer said:*sighs*
So, more NI for me to pay. Bugger.
Edited extra bit: just keeping up to date here, not watching it. One percent's still 1% more than I'd like, but cheers for the actual figure, Mr. L.0 -
Yes but we no longer have to pay the NICs 2 so net it will be somewhat less. It is still a long way away from equality of contributions, particularly when ENICs are taken into account.TheScreamingEagles said:
Isn't it a 2% increase by 2019?DavidL said:
I was a bit worried but in the end 1% is not that bad. I feared worse.Mortimer said:
To be honest this makes sense with regard to NICs.TheScreamingEagles said:Looks like Phil Hammond is about to hit the self employed.
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Coming up to 30 mins0
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Serious Chancellor for serious times - boring he may be but the economy is in good steady hands at this difficult time0
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Exams which then take them to top universities and the professions and believe it or not Singapore has extra curricula activities tooSouthamObserver said:
So what? They teach their children how to answer exam questions.HYUFD said:
They get the best international academic results thoughSouthamObserver said:
Singapore and education - handle with extreme care:HYUFD said:
Top PISA ranked Singapore effectively selects at 13TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
She has an obsession with grammar schools, what is it with people who went to grammar schools, if grammar schools are so good, how come nobody who attended one can differentiate between personal experience and statistical evidence?Sean_F said:Theresa May is a pretty centrist, standard, kind of Conservative. I don't understand your loathing for her.
But she really annoyed me the day she became PM, she sacked people who had served the Tory party with distinction and honour, for years, and for leaders long before Dave.
That smacked of all the hallmarks of a bully.
She was quite cruel, the way Downing Street works, on a security level, you have put your mobile, wallets, and keys in another part of the building.
She sacked them, and took away their heart passes, which meant they couldn't retrieve their personal possessions.
It was said David Cameron on May the 8th 2015 acted with honour and sensitivity to the Lib Dem SPADS etc.
The ironic thing is, within a few months Mrs May tried to get some of them back, to which many of them told her with great pleasure to get stuffed.
And don't even get me started on the Tory conference...
http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/lets-kill-the-drill-approach-in-schools0 -
Thanks.DavidL said:
Yes but we no longer have to pay the NICs 2 so net it will be somewhat less. It is still a long way away from equality of contributions, particularly when ENICs are taken into account.TheScreamingEagles said:
Isn't it a 2% increase by 2019?DavidL said:
I was a bit worried but in the end 1% is not that bad. I feared worse.Mortimer said:
To be honest this makes sense with regard to NICs.TheScreamingEagles said:Looks like Phil Hammond is about to hit the self employed.
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Currently VAT is not paid on roaming outside the EUFrancisUrquhart said:Introducing UK VAT on roaming telecoms services
What's this about? VAT is already on cellphones services etc.0 -
Dividend tax keeps going up. There was an enormous increase last year, for those of us who earn significantly more than 5K through dividends.
Still cheaper than paying yourself through PAYE though, so fair enough.0 -
Last time I checked 5th was not 1st and even Finland selects at 16rottenborough said:
Finland is 5th. No selection.SouthamObserver said:
Singapore and education - handle with extreme care:HYUFD said:
Top PISA ranked Singapore effectively selects at 13TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
She has an obsession with grammar schools, what is it with people who went to grammar schools, if grammar schools are so good, how come nobody who attended one can differentiate between personal experience and statistical evidence?Sean_F said:Theresa May is a pretty centrist, standard, kind of Conservative. I don't understand your loathing for her.
But she really annoyed me the day she became PM, she sacked people who had served the Tory party with distinction and honour, for years, and for leaders long before Dave.
That smacked of all the hallmarks of a bully.
She was quite cruel, the way Downing Street works, on a security level, you have put your mobile, wallets, and keys in another part of the building.
She sacked them, and took away their heart passes, which meant they couldn't retrieve their personal possessions.
It was said David Cameron on May the 8th 2015 acted with honour and sensitivity to the Lib Dem SPADS etc.
The ironic thing is, within a few months Mrs May tried to get some of them back, to which many of them told her with great pleasure to get stuffed.
And don't even get me started on the Tory conference...
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Indeed.DavidL said:
I was a bit worried but in the end 1% is not that bad. I feared worse.Mortimer said:
To be honest this makes sense with regard to NICs.TheScreamingEagles said:Looks like Phil Hammond is about to hit the self employed.
I feared worse on dividend allowance/tax too.
7.5% on £3k means those receiving £5k dividends or more pay £225. Seems fair enough to me.
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Boring?! Hammond's stand up has the best gags I have heard on the BBC in yearsBig_G_NorthWales said:Serious Chancellor for serious times - boring he may be but the economy is in good steady hands at this difficult time
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So the Tory election manifesto from 2015 has been completely cast aside. Raising NICs breaks another promise, along with staying in the Single Market0
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He therefore announces that he will reduce the tax-free dividend allowance for directors/shareholders from £5,000 to £2,000 with effect from April 2018
All of us who own small business and don't earn via PAYE getting some shafting today.0 -
Did he say 'Social Care'? 1/5 winner!HYUFD said:Good move by Hammond on NICs to pay for social care
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Mood music on here even from those who are going to be paying more seems like Spreadsheets Phil has done this in a sensible and fair way.
Good man.
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I seemed to remember THE OMNISHAMBLES budget getting great headline the day after...it was the day after that the s##t hit the fan.Mortimer said:Mood music on here even from those who are going to be paying more seems like Spreadsheets Phil has done this in a sensible and fair way.
Good man.
No Omnishambles here....
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I thought the whole point about having lower taxes on self-employed reflected the risks they were taking and no employer benefits.
If the gov aim to even the two types up, then this creates a huge disincentive for people to become self-employed.
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Corbo's face at the Hawking joke!! #grumpy0
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Only £225 cost in the dividends threshold change, tho, Mr FU.FrancisUrquhart said:He therefore announces that he will reduce the tax-free dividend allowance for directors/shareholders from £5,000 to £2,000 with effect from April 2018
All of us who own small business and don't earn via PAYE getting some shafting today.
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Another awesome joke
Corbyn is so far down a black hole that even Stephen Hawking has disowned him0 -
Take back the boring - second cracker against Corbyn0
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All of us who don't own our own business and earn via PAYE getting slightly less shafted by those who do after today0
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Yes, and the use of dividends to avoid NICs not touched either. Surprised by that to be honest.Mortimer said:
Indeed.DavidL said:
I was a bit worried but in the end 1% is not that bad. I feared worse.Mortimer said:
To be honest this makes sense with regard to NICs.TheScreamingEagles said:Looks like Phil Hammond is about to hit the self employed.
I feared worse on dividend allowance/tax too.
7.5% on £3k means those receiving £5k dividends or more pay £225. Seems fair enough to me.
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Big kick in the nuts for those who own shares but AREN'T self employed.0
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And now reducing the tax advantages for taking a risk and setting up a business.
Are there any pro-business pro-success parties left in this country?
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Kerching! on my 3/1 bet that 'Economy' would be the first of the listed words. Kudos to Paddy, they've already settled it.0
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In reality the problem is we now have two classes of self-employed, one of which the tax system never anticipated, the "gigger".MarkHopkins said:
I thought the whole point about having lower taxes on self-employed reflected the risks they were taking and no employer benefits.
If the gov aim to even the two types up, then this creates a huge disincentive for people to become self-employed.
Both technically don't have steady wages nor employee benefits, but one is much more like a normal job than the other and it seems with various legal challenges the gigger will soon get employment benefits etc.0 -
Third cracker from Hammond0
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Yes, but still not enough IMO.TheScreamingEagles said:
Isn't it a 2% increase by 2019?DavidL said:
I was a bit worried but in the end 1% is not that bad. I feared worse.Mortimer said:
To be honest this makes sense with regard to NICs.TheScreamingEagles said:Looks like Phil Hammond is about to hit the self employed.
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And another good gag.
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Good gag on Labour knowing something about driverless vehicles!0
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Well focussed investment for cutting edge training. We really need this. Only slight moan is from existing funds and £300m is not a huge sum.0
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Truly this is the most snore worthy budget I've seen. About to turn it off and get back to work.0
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He getting funnier by the minute0
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By very little, and nothing at all (because of personal allowance rise) if you're a PAYE/Dividends mix, which many owner directors will be...MarkHopkins said:
And now reducing the tax advantages for taking a risk and setting up a business.
Are there any pro-business pro-success parties left in this country?0