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Report from Whitehaven News reporter at the counting hall:
"The ballot boxes that arrived earlier were the postal votes. I only saw four being brought in.
Bearing in mind that in 2015 there were 12,218 postal votes in Copeland, of which 9,737 were returned, I'm not sure if the four boxes for the by-election were all of them or not, plus I don't know how many postal votes fit in a box."
Anybody know about the possible capacity of these postal vote boxes?
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Harris France presidential poll
Round 1 Le Pen 25% Fillon 21% Macron 20% Hamon 14% Melenchon 13%
Round 2 Macron 60% Le Pen 40% Fillon 57% Le Pen 43%
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Maybe we need a spreadsheet.Goupillon said:Report from Whitehaven News reporter at the counting hall:
"The ballot boxes that arrived earlier were the postal votes. I only saw four being brought in.
Bearing in mind that in 2015 there were 12,218 postal votes in Copeland, of which 9,737 were returned, I'm not sure if the four boxes for the by-election were all of them or not, plus I don't know how many postal votes fit in a box."
Anybody know about the possible capacity of these postal vote boxes?0 -
The Tories have been the bookies' favourites to win Copeland for pretty much the whole campaign.Dixie said:Copeland update: Tories have been calm all campaign because they weren't favourites. Canvass returns look strong so now they feel they can win it. So they have something to lose rather nothing to lose. SOOOO, now...mild panic. Squeaky bum time they tell me!
UKIP not talking to me at all...sign of a loss.
Labour in gallows mood. They say Stoke is won unless they have completely got it wrong. They think Copeland is lost, but they feel better than they did earlier, because of the beer, so they may sneak a victory!. That's all sentimental, mind.
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Here's an interesting question: Which of last season's top 8 had the best record among those teams?0
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Oh that's your solution to everything.AndyJS said:
Maybe we need a spreadsheet.Goupillon said:Report from Whitehaven News reporter at the counting hall:
"The ballot boxes that arrived earlier were the postal votes. I only saw four being brought in.
Bearing in mind that in 2015 there were 12,218 postal votes in Copeland, of which 9,737 were returned, I'm not sure if the four boxes for the by-election were all of them or not, plus I don't know how many postal votes fit in a box."
Anybody know about the possible capacity of these postal vote boxes?
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That implies that circa 25% of the total votes cast in 2015 were postal votes. That is likely to rise to 30% + in this by election.Goupillon said:Report from Whitehaven News reporter at the counting hall:
"The ballot boxes that arrived earlier were the postal votes. I only saw four being brought in.
Bearing in mind that in 2015 there were 12,218 postal votes in Copeland, of which 9,737 were returned, I'm not sure if the four boxes for the by-election were all of them or not, plus I don't know how many postal votes fit in a box."
Anybody know about the possible capacity of these postal vote boxes?0 -
I would love to see players sacked, in general not just with Leicester, but seeing as they are "assets" they get away with murder.MarqueeMark said:Leicester would have a better chance of staying up if they had kept Ranieri and sacked the team.
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Indeed, they have, but as people on here say, that is what the betters think, not the parties. But Tories never felt like favourites. I think it has been Labour held for 60 years. You don't win back those constituencies when in govt. And our Harry Hayfield says Labour win.AlastairMeeks said:
The Tories have been the bookies' favourites to win Copeland for pretty much the whole campaign.Dixie said:Copeland update: Tories have been calm all campaign because they weren't favourites. Canvass returns look strong so now they feel they can win it. So they have something to lose rather nothing to lose. SOOOO, now...mild panic. Squeaky bum time they tell me!
UKIP not talking to me at all...sign of a loss.
Labour in gallows mood. They say Stoke is won unless they have completely got it wrong. They think Copeland is lost, but they feel better than they did earlier, because of the beer, so they may sneak a victory!. That's all sentimental, mind.
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Wonder where Ranieri will head to next. Will be headhunted I expect.glw said:
I would love to see players sacked, in general not just with Leicester, but seeing as they are "assets" they get away with murder.MarqueeMark said:Leicester would have a better chance of staying up if they had kept Ranieri and sacked the team.
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Too late for that! The window closed a month ago.MarqueeMark said:Leicester would have a better chance of staying up if they had kept Ranieri and sacked the team.
Remember that Ranieri built on the success of Pearson. Last season's run started against West Ham in March 15.
Ranieri is a great manager, but wherever he has gone it has been fairly shortlived success.
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We all have our crutches, yours is Erskine May (and filthy neutrality)kle4 said:
Oh that's your solution to everything.AndyJS said:
Maybe we need a spreadsheet.Goupillon said:Report from Whitehaven News reporter at the counting hall:
"The ballot boxes that arrived earlier were the postal votes. I only saw four being brought in.
Bearing in mind that in 2015 there were 12,218 postal votes in Copeland, of which 9,737 were returned, I'm not sure if the four boxes for the by-election were all of them or not, plus I don't know how many postal votes fit in a box."
Anybody know about the possible capacity of these postal vote boxes?
Correctly.
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Liverpool? I know they've been top of the traditional big 4/5 table.tlg86 said:Here's an interesting question: Which of last season's top 8 had the best record among those teams?
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It's the same argument Corbyn's used throughout his life about nuclear weapons. It's puerile.nunu said:
It's about priorities. All wrong. money comes from same pot.Roger said:
Do you really believe transgender toilets have anything to do with refusing to operate on a child's brain tumour? Try to recover your common sense.Floater said:
There are good things and there are bad thingsJonathan said:
There are some truly great things in the NHS. Treatment avaliable to the poorest and the richest alike isn't something to take for granted. It's something to be proud of. And very British.Sean_F said:
I think the NHS is not great, but it is okay, and there is no ideal system of healthcare.Jonathan said:NHS doesn't quite fit the rights world view, but it chugs along providing better value than most systems. One day they'll learn to accept a broader view.
Tomorrow in our office we have our usual charity dress down day.
The recipient this week is the family of a small child who the NHS allegedly refused to do a brain scan on despite having many fits and the parents being sure there was something very wrong.
In the end the scan was done and I large tumor was found. Too large for the NHS to handle they told the parents
Family now raising money to get operation performed in the States.
But they found money for transgender toilets
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not against Cyclefree specifically here but all of you that have compared the dodgy geezers you know and engaged in one upmanship. Says a lot about pb all these people had the audacity to steal money.
Sorry dodgy geezers are those that will happily steal lives without blinking and I suspect seant knows more of them than youCyclefree said:HurstLlama said:Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
I think I ought to win that competition! I did do my bit putting the perpetrator of Britain's biggest fraud in prison, after all.HurstLlama said:
I am reassured, Mr. Pubgoer.Philip_Thompson said:
Never personally HLHertsmere_Pubgoer said:
I doubt the economics and techniques of cannabis farms are an area of expertise to many posters on this site. Indeed, Mr.Pubgoer seems to be suspiciously knowledgeable.Philip_Thompson said:
Interesting didn't know that, as I said not my area of expertise at all. I always assumed it was a greenhouse-like effect of heat that the lights were there to generate.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
It's not heat that you need.AlsoIndigo said:.
Not my area of expertise but surely the very point of the lights is to generate heat so how would using LEDs help?
It's the light so that you can control and force the growing season.
You can net 0.8kg every 12-13 weeks from about 40 plants.
PBers have known many people.
I just seem to have known a few more rogues than most over the years.
Although I guess Sean T would probably lead the way in having known some dodgy geezers.
In the who has known most crooks stakes, I would put SeanT well down the list. Anyone who has worked in the City for any length of time is probably leading him by a length and a half and those that have worked in merchant banking are so far clear of the field that they are could probably have a competition amongst themselves. The supposedly stale area of insurance is not immune either. I know of one chap, who might still be alive so I am not going to name him, having been thrown out of Lloyds for corrupt and improper practice used to do deals out of his Rolls Royce parked around the corner.
And I meet dodgy geezers every day of the week.....0 -
The really great manager of that era was the one who is never talked about.tlg86 said:
And Clough did it with Derby too. But then I think Clough was doing it in an era when it was easier to make marginal gains. Today the market is very efficient so it's very difficult to significantly overachieve.TheScreamingEagles said:
Part of me still thinks Ranieri's achievement, as impressive as it was, wasn't as good as Brian Clough's Forest achievements, promotion, Old First Division title, and two European cups in consecutive seasons.Pulpstar said:It'll never be achieved again what Ranieri managed at Leicester. This was Elvis on the moon type odds, the pinnacle, the everest, south pole, moon & mars mission all wrapped into one; perhaps there was just nowhere to go.
Ranieri will never achieve such heights again, and neither will Leicester. Perhaps he will retire, for to lift the Prem with a club that ought to be perenial championship/Prem bouncers can't and won't ever be topped in our lifetimes.
Farewell Ranieri, and thanks for showing what dreamers can do.
Took over from a loudmouth with a huge reputation and did far better but because he wasn't a loudmouth he isn't remembered.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_Cup_and_UEFA_Champions_League_winning_managers
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I'm not sure I understand a concept of favourite that disregards bookies' odds and goes on feelings.Dixie said:
Indeed, they have, but as people on here say, that is what the betters think, not the parties. But Tories never felt like favourites. I think it has been Labour held for 60 years. You don't win back those constituencies when in govt. And our Harry Hayfield says Labour win.AlastairMeeks said:
The Tories have been the bookies' favourites to win Copeland for pretty much the whole campaign.Dixie said:Copeland update: Tories have been calm all campaign because they weren't favourites. Canvass returns look strong so now they feel they can win it. So they have something to lose rather nothing to lose. SOOOO, now...mild panic. Squeaky bum time they tell me!
UKIP not talking to me at all...sign of a loss.
Labour in gallows mood. They say Stoke is won unless they have completely got it wrong. They think Copeland is lost, but they feel better than they did earlier, because of the beer, so they may sneak a victory!. That's all sentimental, mind.
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Depends on who is doing the feeling, and what they know.AlastairMeeks said:
I'm not sure I understand a concept of favourite that disregards bookies' odds and goes on feelings.Dixie said:
Indeed, they have, but as people on here say, that is what the betters think, not the parties. But Tories never felt like favourites. I think it has been Labour held for 60 years. You don't win back those constituencies when in govt. And our Harry Hayfield says Labour win.AlastairMeeks said:
The Tories have been the bookies' favourites to win Copeland for pretty much the whole campaign.Dixie said:Copeland update: Tories have been calm all campaign because they weren't favourites. Canvass returns look strong so now they feel they can win it. So they have something to lose rather nothing to lose. SOOOO, now...mild panic. Squeaky bum time they tell me!
UKIP not talking to me at all...sign of a loss.
Labour in gallows mood. They say Stoke is won unless they have completely got it wrong. They think Copeland is lost, but they feel better than they did earlier, because of the beer, so they may sneak a victory!. That's all sentimental, mind.
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How can a toilet be transgender? Surely you mean unisex? If they were such a hassle however do the disabled cope?0
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It's hard to understand why, unless the Labour Party is collapsing, like the Liberals in the 1920's, as opposed to being just very unpopular. If the Tories win Copeland, it's the best result for a governing party since 1879.AlastairMeeks said:
The Tories have been the bookies' favourites to win Copeland for pretty much the whole campaign.Dixie said:Copeland update: Tories have been calm all campaign because they weren't favourites. Canvass returns look strong so now they feel they can win it. So they have something to lose rather nothing to lose. SOOOO, now...mild panic. Squeaky bum time they tell me!
UKIP not talking to me at all...sign of a loss.
Labour in gallows mood. They say Stoke is won unless they have completely got it wrong. They think Copeland is lost, but they feel better than they did earlier, because of the beer, so they may sneak a victory!. That's all sentimental, mind.
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He said it was to be his last job, and I think he has had enough.Pulpstar said:
Wonder where Ranieri will head to next. Will be headhunted I expect.glw said:
I would love to see players sacked, in general not just with Leicester, but seeing as they are "assets" they get away with murder.MarqueeMark said:Leicester would have a better chance of staying up if they had kept Ranieri and sacked the team.
The fans continued to sing his song, right to the end, but football is a merciless business.
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Hes' remembered in Liverpool.another_richard said:
The really great manager of that era was the one who is never talked about.tlg86 said:
And Clough did it with Derby too. But then I think Clough was doing it in an era when it was easier to make marginal gains. Today the market is very efficient so it's very difficult to significantly overachieve.TheScreamingEagles said:
Part of me still thinks Ranieri's achievement, as impressive as it was, wasn't as good as Brian Clough's Forest achievements, promotion, Old First Division title, and two European cups in consecutive seasons.Pulpstar said:It'll never be achieved again what Ranieri managed at Leicester. This was Elvis on the moon type odds, the pinnacle, the everest, south pole, moon & mars mission all wrapped into one; perhaps there was just nowhere to go.
Ranieri will never achieve such heights again, and neither will Leicester. Perhaps he will retire, for to lift the Prem with a club that ought to be perenial championship/Prem bouncers can't and won't ever be topped in our lifetimes.
Farewell Ranieri, and thanks for showing what dreamers can do.
Took over from a loudmouth with a huge reputation and did far better but because he wasn't a loudmouth he isn't remembered.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_Cup_and_UEFA_Champions_League_winning_managers
He won the Liverpool Echo poll a decade ago as our greatest ever manager/influence.0 -
Even West Ham are above Leicester in the League
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Hearing Lab think they are behind in Copeland and need a really busy last half hour.
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I was listening to a radio program whilst driving over the peaks with a man from the USA who worked with nuclear weapons in his time. Essentially he put forward that the US and Russia with their armaments kept world peace through MAD. He made the point that the (far smaller) armaments of say France, UK and some others essentially added zip to the total security of the world.Roger said:
It's the same argument Corbyn's used throughout his life about nuclear weapons. It's puerile.nunu said:
It's about priorities. All wrong. money comes from same pot.Roger said:
Do you really believe transgender toilets have anything to do with refusing to operate on a child's brain tumour? Try to recover your common sense.Floater said:
There are good things and there are bad thingsJonathan said:
There are some truly great things in the NHS. Treatment avaliable to the poorest and the richest alike isn't something to take for granted. It's something to be proud of. And very British.Sean_F said:
I think the NHS is not great, but it is okay, and there is no ideal system of healthcare.Jonathan said:NHS doesn't quite fit the rights world view, but it chugs along providing better value than most systems. One day they'll learn to accept a broader view.
Tomorrow in our office we have our usual charity dress down day.
The recipient this week is the family of a small child who the NHS allegedly refused to do a brain scan on despite having many fits and the parents being sure there was something very wrong.
In the end the scan was done and I large tumor was found. Too large for the NHS to handle they told the parents
Family now raising money to get operation performed in the States.
But they found money for transgender toilets
Choices are a bitch eh0 -
Hearing anything about Stoke ?bigjohnowls said:Hearing Lab think they are behind in Copeland and need a really busy last half hour.
Latter seems unlikely and Tory Gain if true
I've laid the snot out of UKIP there.0 -
OK, the party didn't think they were favourites to win.AlastairMeeks said:
I'm not sure I understand a concept of favourite that disregards bookies' odds and goes on feelings.Dixie said:
Indeed, they have, but as people on here say, that is what the betters think, not the parties. But Tories never felt like favourites. I think it has been Labour held for 60 years. You don't win back those constituencies when in govt. And our Harry Hayfield says Labour win.AlastairMeeks said:
The Tories have been the bookies' favourites to win Copeland for pretty much the whole campaign.Dixie said:Copeland update: Tories have been calm all campaign because they weren't favourites. Canvass returns look strong so now they feel they can win it. So they have something to lose rather nothing to lose. SOOOO, now...mild panic. Squeaky bum time they tell me!
UKIP not talking to me at all...sign of a loss.
Labour in gallows mood. They say Stoke is won unless they have completely got it wrong. They think Copeland is lost, but they feel better than they did earlier, because of the beer, so they may sneak a victory!. That's all sentimental, mind.
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That's a good attitude to have. Would be an incredible result even if so many factors point towards it happening.Dixie said:
OK, the party didn't think they were favourites to win.AlastairMeeks said:
I'm not sure I understand a concept of favourite that disregards bookies' odds and goes on feelings.Dixie said:
Indeed, they have, but as people on here say, that is what the betters think, not the parties. But Tories never felt like favourites. I think it has been Labour held for 60 years. You don't win back those constituencies when in govt. And our Harry Hayfield says Labour win.AlastairMeeks said:
The Tories have been the bookies' favourites to win Copeland for pretty much the whole campaign.Dixie said:Copeland update: Tories have been calm all campaign because they weren't favourites. Canvass returns look strong so now they feel they can win it. So they have something to lose rather nothing to lose. SOOOO, now...mild panic. Squeaky bum time they tell me!
UKIP not talking to me at all...sign of a loss.
Labour in gallows mood. They say Stoke is won unless they have completely got it wrong. They think Copeland is lost, but they feel better than they did earlier, because of the beer, so they may sneak a victory!. That's all sentimental, mind.
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Surely the Arsetlg86 said:Here's an interesting question: Which of last season's top 8 had the best record among those teams?
Double over Leicester
Beat City home drew away
Two draws w Spurs
Two draws w Liverpool
Beat Utd home lost away
Double over Everton
Drew Soton home lost away
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Éoin@LabourEoin 20m20 minutes ago
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Votes will be cast in the next 45 minutes that will decide the outcome of the Copeland by-election. It's that close. Vote. Vote. Vote.
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West Ham.TheScreamingEagles said:
Liverpool? I know they've been top of the traditional big 4/5 table.tlg86 said:Here's an interesting question: Which of last season's top 8 had the best record among those teams?
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Cheers.tlg86 said:
West Ham.TheScreamingEagles said:
Liverpool? I know they've been top of the traditional big 4/5 table.tlg86 said:Here's an interesting question: Which of last season's top 8 had the best record among those teams?
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Well, both sides are saying squeaky bum time. Only time will tell.bigjohnowls said:Éoin@LabourEoin 20m20 minutes ago
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Votes will be cast in the next 45 minutes that will decide the outcome of the Copeland by-election. It's that close. Vote. Vote. Vote.
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Arhhh Eoin, another Walter Mitty type and somebody who is never wrong about anything...like ever...and when I say never, I mean pretty much always.bigjohnowls said:Éoin@LabourEoin 20m20 minutes ago
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Votes will be cast in the next 45 minutes that will decide the outcome of the Copeland by-election. It's that close. Vote. Vote. Vote.
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So both solid Labour holds then.bigjohnowls said:Éoin@LabourEoin 20m20 minutes ago
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Votes will be cast in the next 45 minutes that will decide the outcome of the Copeland by-election. It's that close. Vote. Vote. Vote.
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Sounds like an completely predictable 9.15pm GOTV tweet to me.bigjohnowls said:Éoin@LabourEoin 20m20 minutes ago
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Votes will be cast in the next 45 minutes that will decide the outcome of the Copeland by-election. It's that close. Vote. Vote. Vote.
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Oh I forgot they were top 8tlg86 said:
West Ham.TheScreamingEagles said:
Liverpool? I know they've been top of the traditional big 4/5 table.tlg86 said:Here's an interesting question: Which of last season's top 8 had the best record among those teams?
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He blocked me on twitter.FrancisUrquhart said:
Arhhh Eoin, another Walter Mitty type and somebody who is never wrong about anything...like ever...and when I say never, I mean pretty much always.bigjohnowls said:Éoin@LabourEoin 20m20 minutes ago
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Votes will be cast in the next 45 minutes that will decide the outcome of the Copeland by-election. It's that close. Vote. Vote. Vote.
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yeah people are going to go vote in a storm in Feb at 9.30pm.....LOL.bigjohnowls said:Hearing Lab think they are behind in Copeland and need a really busy last half hour.
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West Ham not Everton. Arsenal were top of the top 6. You can play around with it on Statto:isam said:
Surely the Arsetlg86 said:Here's an interesting question: Which of last season's top 8 had the best record among those teams?
Double over Leicester
Beat City home drew away
Two draws w Spurs
Two draws w Liverpool
Beat Utd home lost away
Double over Everton
Drew Soton home lost away
6 6 2?
http://tinyurl.com/zwfzze4
Note just how terrible City were against the other top teams.0 -
For a different view of healthcare, and a look at the perils of overinvestigating and over treating see here:
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/02/when-evidence-says-no-but-doctors-say-yes/517368/?utm_source=atltw
Also worth noting that the old East Germany now has greater longevity than the USA, and that the USA is actually a nation where longevity has gone into reverse.0 -
I imagine oop norf in a hurricane out in the country is not the sort of place that will get a rush at 9.30 pm. If Labour think they are behind currently, then the die is caste. As David Herdson said, labour have more supporters, but it will be down to GOTVbigjohnowls said:Hearing Lab think they are behind in Copeland and need a really busy last half hour.
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Keane: no class thug by his own admission.kle4 said:
Didn't he say in a bio that he deliberately set out to hurt him? He should have been arrested for that challenge.TheScreamingEagles said:
Alf-Inge Håland says hello.Big_G_NorthWales said:Just seen Alli's tackle. Far worse than anything Roy Keene did. In fact in 65 years watching football I cannot think of anything worse as it was so deliberate. Long suspension coming surely
hts://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_st29mlQwU
As should Thatcher on Mendes here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v0CdBqUmNA&index=12&list=FLg5SdxeHca5JpoZ1j9-RpJg
Look at the deliberate swing of the arm. Think it only got a yellow, and the FA broke its own rules to ban him since he had been given an on field punishment of a yellow.0 -
Lab say they will win Stoke. UKIP not talking. I imagine Tories 2nd, but might be Libs, who have been very quiet.Pulpstar said:
Hearing anything about Stoke ?bigjohnowls said:Hearing Lab think they are behind in Copeland and need a really busy last half hour.
Latter seems unlikely and Tory Gain if true
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How's it going for Arsenal in the CL? At least you also got an away goal ;-)tlg86 said:
West Ham not Everton. Arsenal were top of the top 6. You can play around with it on Statto:isam said:
Surely the Arsetlg86 said:Here's an interesting question: Which of last season's top 8 had the best record among those teams?
Double over Leicester
Beat City home drew away
Two draws w Spurs
Two draws w Liverpool
Beat Utd home lost away
Double over Everton
Drew Soton home lost away
6 6 2?
http://tinyurl.com/zwfzze4
Note just how terrible City were against the other top teams.0 -
Perhaps you can then persuade Corbyn to go and we can have a functioning Labour Party again?bigjohnowls said:Éoin@LabourEoin 20m20 minutes ago
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Votes will be cast in the next 45 minutes that will decide the outcome of the Copeland by-election. It's that close. Vote. Vote. Vote.
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Labour do not have a good track record on previous 45 minute claims... Iraq, NHS, and now Copelandbigjohnowls said:Éoin@LabourEoin 20m20 minutes ago
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Votes will be cast in the next 45 minutes that will decide the outcome of the Copeland by-election. It's that close. Vote. Vote. Vote.
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Could just be the usual bit of motivating. Who knows?Dixie said:
I imagine oop norf in a hurricane out in the country is not the sort of place that will get a rush at 9.30 pm. If Labour think they are behind currently, then the die is caste. As David Herdson said, labour have more supporters, but it will be down to GOTVbigjohnowls said:Hearing Lab think they are behind in Copeland and need a really busy last half hour.
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Why would they put the postal votes into ballot boxes?RobD said:
We all have our crutches, yours is Erskine May (and filthy neutrality)kle4 said:
Oh that's your solution to everything.AndyJS said:
Maybe we need a spreadsheet.Goupillon said:Report from Whitehaven News reporter at the counting hall:
"The ballot boxes that arrived earlier were the postal votes. I only saw four being brought in.
Bearing in mind that in 2015 there were 12,218 postal votes in Copeland, of which 9,737 were returned, I'm not sure if the four boxes for the by-election were all of them or not, plus I don't know how many postal votes fit in a box."
Anybody know about the possible capacity of these postal vote boxes?
Correctly.
Where I live all the postal votes are put into sealed bags, then, after the ballot boxes arrive from the polling stations, the polling station votes have been verified to make sure the numbers of votes in the boxes match the number marked on the register.
Once this is done the sealed bags are opened and the count proper begins. No need to put the postal votes into boxes.0 -
Well they are in a bad way nationally, they are probably just generally concerned and may not even believe themselves that locally it may not have an impact. But my money says otherwise, don't let me down labour.bigjohnowls said:Éoin@LabourEoin 20m20 minutes ago
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Votes will be cast in the next 45 minutes that will decide the outcome of the Copeland by-election. It's that close. Vote. Vote. Vote.
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Now that's funny!foxinsoxuk said:
How's it going for Arsenal in the CL? At least you also got an away goal ;-)tlg86 said:
West Ham not Everton. Arsenal were top of the top 6. You can play around with it on Statto:isam said:
Surely the Arsetlg86 said:Here's an interesting question: Which of last season's top 8 had the best record among those teams?
Double over Leicester
Beat City home drew away
Two draws w Spurs
Two draws w Liverpool
Beat Utd home lost away
Double over Everton
Drew Soton home lost away
6 6 2?
http://tinyurl.com/zwfzze4
Note just how terrible City were against the other top teams.0 -
That was Man City, btw. Yes, we've done our usual thing in Europe - though at least I didn't waste £350 going to Munich. Winning the group did us no good whatsoever.foxinsoxuk said:
How's it going for Arsenal in the CL? At least you also got an away goal ;-)tlg86 said:
West Ham not Everton. Arsenal were top of the top 6. You can play around with it on Statto:isam said:
Surely the Arsetlg86 said:Here's an interesting question: Which of last season's top 8 had the best record among those teams?
Double over Leicester
Beat City home drew away
Two draws w Spurs
Two draws w Liverpool
Beat Utd home lost away
Double over Everton
Drew Soton home lost away
6 6 2?
http://tinyurl.com/zwfzze4
Note just how terrible City were against the other top teams.
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flip a coin, if you believe people on the ground therekle4 said:
Well they are in a bad way nationally, they are probably just generally concerned and may not even believe themselves that locally it may not have an impact. But my money says otherwise, don't let me down labour.bigjohnowls said:Éoin@LabourEoin 20m20 minutes ago
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Votes will be cast in the next 45 minutes that will decide the outcome of the Copeland by-election. It's that close. Vote. Vote. Vote.
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LIKE....RobD said:
Labour do not have a good track record on previous 45 minute claims... Iraq, NHS, and now Copelandbigjohnowls said:Éoin@LabourEoin 20m20 minutes ago
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Votes will be cast in the next 45 minutes that will decide the outcome of the Copeland by-election. It's that close. Vote. Vote. Vote.
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Dixie said:
flip of a coin, if you believe people on the ground therekle4 said:
Well they are in a bad way nationally, they are probably just generally concerned and may not even believe themselves that locally it may not have an impact. But my money says otherwise, don't let me down labour.bigjohnowls said:Éoin@LabourEoin 20m20 minutes ago
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Votes will be cast in the next 45 minutes that will decide the outcome of the Copeland by-election. It's that close. Vote. Vote. Vote.
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Eisige Schwestern still selling so well after all this time? Or was it only recently released over there?SeanT said:0 -
Our arms provide assurance in case America goes rogue. Now might be considered more important than ever on that front.Pulpstar said:
I was listening to a radio program whilst driving over the peaks with a man from the USA who worked with nuclear weapons in his time. Essentially he put forward that the US and Russia with their armaments kept world peace through MAD. He made the point that the (far smaller) armaments of say France, UK and some others essentially added zip to the total security of the world.Roger said:
It's the same argument Corbyn's used throughout his life about nuclear weapons. It's puerile.nunu said:
It's about priorities. All wrong. money comes from same pot.Roger said:
Do you really believe transgender toilets have anything to do with refusing to operate on a child's brain tumour? Try to recover your common sense.Floater said:
There are good things and there are bad thingsJonathan said:
There are some truly great things in the NHS. Treatment avaliable to the poorest and the richest alike isn't something to take for granted. It's something to be proud of. And very British.Sean_F said:
I think the NHS is not great, but it is okay, and there is no ideal system of healthcare.Jonathan said:NHS doesn't quite fit the rights world view, but it chugs along providing better value than most systems. One day they'll learn to accept a broader view.
Tomorrow in our office we have our usual charity dress down day.
The recipient this week is the family of a small child who the NHS allegedly refused to do a brain scan on despite having many fits and the parents being sure there was something very wrong.
In the end the scan was done and I large tumor was found. Too large for the NHS to handle they told the parents
Family now raising money to get operation performed in the States.
But they found money for transgender toilets
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If you can somehow work Tuchvilla into the title of the next one then number 1 is guaranteed.SeanT said:Just sayin'
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Gent just equalised now 2-3 with10 mins left0
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At least they don't have to play at Wembley again...TheScreamingEagles said:Oh dear Spurs.
until the whole of next season
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Eh, local people are the worse people to as about local matters.Dixie said:
flip a coin, if you believe people on the ground therekle4 said:
Well they are in a bad way nationally, they are probably just generally concerned and may not even believe themselves that locally it may not have an impact. But my money says otherwise, don't let me down labour.bigjohnowls said:Éoin@LabourEoin 20m20 minutes ago
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Votes will be cast in the next 45 minutes that will decide the outcome of the Copeland by-election. It's that close. Vote. Vote. Vote.
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Everton finished 11th last year. I know!tlg86 said:
West Ham not Everton. Arsenal were top of the top 6. You can play around with it on Statto:isam said:
Surely the Arsetlg86 said:Here's an interesting question: Which of last season's top 8 had the best record among those teams?
Double over Leicester
Beat City home drew away
Two draws w Spurs
Two draws w Liverpool
Beat Utd home lost away
Double over Everton
Drew Soton home lost away
6 6 2?
http://tinyurl.com/zwfzze4
Note just how terrible City were against the other top teams.0 -
Congratulations, am off to Germany tomorrow, will have a browse at the airport bookshop!SeanT said:0 -
Yep. Schadenfreude all round! Such is the pleasure of football.tlg86 said:
That was Man City, btw. Yes, we've done our usual thing in Europe - though at least I didn't waste £350 going to Munich. Winning the group did us no good whatsoever.foxinsoxuk said:
How's it going for Arsenal in the CL? At least you also got an away goal ;-)tlg86 said:
West Ham not Everton. Arsenal were top of the top 6. You can play around with it on Statto:isam said:
Surely the Arsetlg86 said:Here's an interesting question: Which of last season's top 8 had the best record among those teams?
Double over Leicester
Beat City home drew away
Two draws w Spurs
Two draws w Liverpool
Beat Utd home lost away
Double over Everton
Drew Soton home lost away
6 6 2?
http://tinyurl.com/zwfzze4
Note just how terrible City were against the other top teams.
Still, at least we're not crashing out of Europe on a Thursday night!
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Do you want 5/2 for £20 Con bt UKIP in Stoke?foxinsoxuk said:
Yep. Schadenfreude all round! Such is the pleasure of football.tlg86 said:
That was Man City, btw. Yes, we've done our usual thing in Europe - though at least I didn't waste £350 going to Munich. Winning the group did us no good whatsoever.foxinsoxuk said:
How's it going for Arsenal in the CL? At least you also got an away goal ;-)tlg86 said:
West Ham not Everton. Arsenal were top of the top 6. You can play around with it on Statto:isam said:
Surely the Arsetlg86 said:Here's an interesting question: Which of last season's top 8 had the best record among those teams?
Double over Leicester
Beat City home drew away
Two draws w Spurs
Two draws w Liverpool
Beat Utd home lost away
Double over Everton
Drew Soton home lost away
6 6 2?
http://tinyurl.com/zwfzze4
Note just how terrible City were against the other top teams.
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Our local Labour MP bombards voters on election day with text messages, right up to 10 pm. Works for her. The Brexit App emailed users about 10 times on election dayfoxinsoxuk said:
Could just be the usual bit of motivating. Who knows?Dixie said:
I imagine oop norf in a hurricane out in the country is not the sort of place that will get a rush at 9.30 pm. If Labour think they are behind currently, then the die is caste. As David Herdson said, labour have more supporters, but it will be down to GOTVbigjohnowls said:Hearing Lab think they are behind in Copeland and need a really busy last half hour.
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On present polling Copeland was always going to be neck and neck between the Tories and Labour, in solid Leave territory Brexit being May's Falklands, Thatcher being the last PM to gain a seat in a by election in 1982Sean_F said:
It's hard to understand why, unless the Labour Party is collapsing, like the Liberals in the 1920's, as opposed to being just very unpopular. If the Tories win Copeland, it's the best result for a governing party since 1879.AlastairMeeks said:
The Tories have been the bookies' favourites to win Copeland for pretty much the whole campaign.Dixie said:Copeland update: Tories have been calm all campaign because they weren't favourites. Canvass returns look strong so now they feel they can win it. So they have something to lose rather nothing to lose. SOOOO, now...mild panic. Squeaky bum time they tell me!
UKIP not talking to me at all...sign of a loss.
Labour in gallows mood. They say Stoke is won unless they have completely got it wrong. They think Copeland is lost, but they feel better than they did earlier, because of the beer, so they may sneak a victory!. That's all sentimental, mind.
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If they beat Millwall they will...isam said:
At least they don't have to play at Wembley again...TheScreamingEagles said:Oh dear Spurs.
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Fünf-in' 'ell! Good work, Mr T.SeanT said:0 -
Labour will do well with PVs in Copeland and Stoke. May win it for them0
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Good to see Trevor Phillips confronting student snowflakes on Channel 4 who think it's offensive to wear Mexican headwear.0
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Is that a general offerisam said:
Do you want 5/2 for £20 Con bt UKIP in Stoke?foxinsoxuk said:
Yep. Schadenfreude all round! Such is the pleasure of football.tlg86 said:
That was Man City, btw. Yes, we've done our usual thing in Europe - though at least I didn't waste £350 going to Munich. Winning the group did us no good whatsoever.foxinsoxuk said:
How's it going for Arsenal in the CL? At least you also got an away goal ;-)tlg86 said:
West Ham not Everton. Arsenal were top of the top 6. You can play around with it on Statto:isam said:
Surely the Arsetlg86 said:Here's an interesting question: Which of last season's top 8 had the best record among those teams?
Double over Leicester
Beat City home drew away
Two draws w Spurs
Two draws w Liverpool
Beat Utd home lost away
Double over Everton
Drew Soton home lost away
6 6 2?
http://tinyurl.com/zwfzze4
Note just how terrible City were against the other top teams.
Still, at least we're not crashing out of Europe on a Thursday night! ? 0 -
the London canvassers I mean.kle4 said:
Eh, local people are the worse people to as about local matters.Dixie said:
flip a coin, if you believe people on the ground therekle4 said:
Well they are in a bad way nationally, they are probably just generally concerned and may not even believe themselves that locally it may not have an impact. But my money says otherwise, don't let me down labour.bigjohnowls said:Éoin@LabourEoin 20m20 minutes ago
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Votes will be cast in the next 45 minutes that will decide the outcome of the Copeland by-election. It's that close. Vote. Vote. Vote.
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Amazing just how illiberal some of these so called liberals are. Banning somberos and dressing as pochontas? Seems to me they'd ban anything.AndyJS said:Good to see Trevor Phillips confronting student snowflakes on Channel 4 who think it's offensive to wear Mexican headwear.
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Stoke Sentinel will shortly be live streaming the count:
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Not really, I offered it to him ages ago. What price do you think it should be then?Pulpstar said:
Is that a general offerisam said:
Do you want 5/2 for £20 Con bt UKIP in Stoke?foxinsoxuk said:
Yep. Schadenfreude all round! Such is the pleasure of football.tlg86 said:
That was Man City, btw. Yes, we've done our usual thing in Europe - though at least I didn't waste £350 going to Munich. Winning the group did us no good whatsoever.foxinsoxuk said:
How's it going for Arsenal in the CL? At least you also got an away goal ;-)tlg86 said:
West Ham not Everton. Arsenal were top of the top 6. You can play around with it on Statto:isam said:
Surely the Arsetlg86 said:Here's an interesting question: Which of last season's top 8 had the best record among those teams?
Double over Leicester
Beat City home drew away
Two draws w Spurs
Two draws w Liverpool
Beat Utd home lost away
Double over Everton
Drew Soton home lost away
6 6 2?
http://tinyurl.com/zwfzze4
Note just how terrible City were against the other top teams.
Still, at least we're not crashing out of Europe on a Thursday night! ?0 -
I can't really decide what he's doing here - seems like an exercise in letting idiots show themselves up- Paris Lees, the keyboard warrior explaining his rape/death threats as 'banter'.AndyJS said:Good to see Trevor Phillips confronting student snowflakes on Channel 4 who think it's offensive to wear Mexican headwear.
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Do you have any regrets that its not 'Sean Thomas' in the bestsellers list rather than this Tremayne person ?SeanT said:
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Do they protest against FGM and forced marriages?Razedabode said:
Amazing just how illiberal some of these so called liberals are. Banning somberos and dressing as pochontas? Seems to me they'd ban anything.AndyJS said:Good to see Trevor Phillips confronting student snowflakes on Channel 4 who think it's offensive to wear Mexican headwear.
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Con 1.56
Lab 2.32
In Copeland at present (note that Lab have shortened this evening)
Lab 1.4
UKiP 4
in Stoke
Just noting close of poll Betfair for future reference.
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I see Labour has shortened in the last few minutes re - Copeland - now 6/4 with one bookie.0
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As long as it's the right name on the cheque...another_richard said:Do you have any regrets that its not 'Sean Thomas' in the bestsellers list rather than this Tremayne person ?
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They do actually, just it is not news.AndyJS said:
Do they protest against FGM and forced marriages?Razedabode said:
Amazing just how illiberal some of these so called liberals are. Banning somberos and dressing as pochontas? Seems to me they'd ban anything.AndyJS said:Good to see Trevor Phillips confronting student snowflakes on Channel 4 who think it's offensive to wear Mexican headwear.
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UKIP 4.3 / Tories 15.5 midpoints Betfair at the moment. Seeing as that is pretty much 100% of the market without Labour, just divide them ?isam said:
Not really, I offered it to him ages ago. What price do you think it should be then?Pulpstar said:
Is that a general offerisam said:
Do you want 5/2 for £20 Con bt UKIP in Stoke?foxinsoxuk said:
Yep. Schadenfreude all round! Such is the pleasure of football.tlg86 said:
That was Man City, btw. Yes, we've done our usual thing in Europe - though at least I didn't waste £350 going to Munich. Winning the group did us no good whatsoever.foxinsoxuk said:
How's it going for Arsenal in the CL? At least you also got an away goal ;-)tlg86 said:
West Ham not Everton. Arsenal were top of the top 6. You can play around with it on Statto:isam said:
Surely the Arsetlg86 said:Here's an interesting question: Which of last season's top 8 had the best record among those teams?
Double over Leicester
Beat City home drew away
Two draws w Spurs
Two draws w Liverpool
Beat Utd home lost away
Double over Everton
Drew Soton home lost away
6 6 2?
http://tinyurl.com/zwfzze4
Note just how terrible City were against the other top teams.
Still, at least we're not crashing out of Europe on a Thursday night! ?
Which yields 3.6 ?
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Tories go from 1/3 to 1/2 in last couple of mins in Copeland.
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To do so would be Islamophobic.AndyJS said:
Do they protest against FGM and forced marriages?Razedabode said:
Amazing just how illiberal some of these so called liberals are. Banning somberos and dressing as pochontas? Seems to me they'd ban anything.AndyJS said:Good to see Trevor Phillips confronting student snowflakes on Channel 4 who think it's offensive to wear Mexican headwear.
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Those are cultural enrichment not cultural oppression.AndyJS said:
Do they protest against FGM and forced marriages?Razedabode said:
Amazing just how illiberal some of these so called liberals are. Banning somberos and dressing as pochontas? Seems to me they'd ban anything.AndyJS said:Good to see Trevor Phillips confronting student snowflakes on Channel 4 who think it's offensive to wear Mexican headwear.
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Possibly, but I'm convinced part of the reason for the sheer intensity on, shall we say, sometimes less significant causes, is because those have a greater chance of success, partly as the bar is set lower, partly because its easier of course, and partly because since they are less significant opponents are more likely to give in.AndyJS said:
Do they protest against FGM and forced marriages?Razedabode said:
Amazing just how illiberal some of these so called liberals are. Banning somberos and dressing as pochontas? Seems to me they'd ban anything.AndyJS said:Good to see Trevor Phillips confronting student snowflakes on Channel 4 who think it's offensive to wear Mexican headwear.
Serious issues are hard.
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I make it 2/7 & 7/2 off that?Pulpstar said:
UKIP 4.3 / Tories 15.5 midpoints Betfair at the moment. Seeing as that is pretty much 100% of the market without Labour, just divide them ?isam said:
Not really, I offered it to him ages ago. What price do you think it should be then?Pulpstar said:
Is that a general offerisam said:
Do you want 5/2 for £20 Con bt UKIP in Stoke?foxinsoxuk said:
Yep. Schadenfreude all round! Such is the pleasure of football.tlg86 said:
That was Man City, btw. Yes, we've done our usual thing in Europe - though at least I didn't waste £350 going to Munich. Winning the group did us no good whatsoever.foxinsoxuk said:
How's it going for Arsenal in the CL? At least you also got an away goal ;-)tlg86 said:
West Ham not Everton. Arsenal were top of the top 6. You can play around with it on Statto:isam said:
Surely the Arsetlg86 said:Here's an interesting question: Which of last season's top 8 had the best record among those teams?
Double over Leicester
Beat City home drew away
Two draws w Spurs
Two draws w Liverpool
Beat Utd home lost away
Double over Everton
Drew Soton home lost away
6 6 2?
http://tinyurl.com/zwfzze4
Note just how terrible City were against the other top teams.
Still, at least we're not crashing out of Europe on a Thursday night! ?
Which yields 3.6 ?
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Win and you are in the champions leagueisam said:Why are Spurs disappointed to get knocked out of this mickey mouse cup? They've had a result
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Nah. I have spent my stake money for this month, but thanks for the offer.isam said:
Do you want 5/2 for £20 Con bt UKIP in Stoke?foxinsoxuk said:
Yep. Schadenfreude all round! Such is the pleasure of football.tlg86 said:
That was Man City, btw. Yes, we've done our usual thing in Europe - though at least I didn't waste £350 going to Munich. Winning the group did us no good whatsoever.foxinsoxuk said:
How's it going for Arsenal in the CL? At least you also got an away goal ;-)tlg86 said:
West Ham not Everton. Arsenal were top of the top 6. You can play around with it on Statto:isam said:
Surely the Arsetlg86 said:Here's an interesting question: Which of last season's top 8 had the best record among those teams?
Double over Leicester
Beat City home drew away
Two draws w Spurs
Two draws w Liverpool
Beat Utd home lost away
Double over Everton
Drew Soton home lost away
6 6 2?
http://tinyurl.com/zwfzze4
Note just how terrible City were against the other top teams.
Still, at least we're not crashing out of Europe on a Thursday night!0 -
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