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I am prepared more tax if it was earmarked for the NHS: 53%TheScreamingEagles said:
Those 53% can do so - all they have to do is go to a hospital with their cheque book and ask to make a donation.
In fact I've pointed that out to people who have told me that they would like to pay more tax as long as it went to the NHS and even offered to drive them then and there to a hospital of their choosing.
But I've never been taken up on the offer.
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I'm happy for an extra penny of MY tax to go on the NHS, but Hunt's reforms and salary caps should be stuck to nonetheless. I do not want to see it pissed away on bumper pay rises like Labour's cash was. Or PFI >.> Borrowing is cheap enough for the gov't, PFI just an accounting wheeze.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Despite the constant negative stories on the NHS I do believe that people are beginning to question the constant demand for billions more and even if it is forthcoming how it is spent will be of most concern.TOPPING said:
One would hope that people are beginning to realise that the largest injection of money into the NHS came under Tone & Gordo and that we are still where we are.Slackbladder said:
I know I'm a tory supporter, but how the flying f*** are they not being hammered on the NHS?TheScreamingEagles said:The NHS findings really are a kick in the nuts for Labour.
More people agree than disagree that the Red Cross was right to describe the NHS was experiencing a humanitarian crisis (47% to 36%) but on who do they think would be better at managing the NHS winter crisis
Theresa May/Tories - 43%
Jeremy Corbyn/Labour - 31%
So a 12% lead for the Tories on the NHS.
Corbyn is utter shite.
I appreciate that there is a huge social care dimension to the state of the NHS atm but nevertheless, perhaps people realise that spunking money up the (ward) wall isn't always the answer.
Sky reporting this morning big support for Theresa May on withholding funds on doctors not opening 8 - 8 - 7 days a week. How many know the Government has allocated in excess of 500,000 million for this improved GP service
There will be a big clamour to increase salaries but that will not address the massive increase in demand and you can bet that if Corbyn was given cart blanche it would go on salaries.0 -
In the final question 30% of people want employers to have the freedom to set the pay of their staff - which means up to 30% are in favour of individual freeom and should be voting Lib Dem.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Or if you are a pensioner put it on NI as it would not affect meBlack_Rook said:
In these sorts of surveys, everything depends on the exact question.TheScreamingEagles said:The NHS findings really are a kick in the nuts for Labour.
More people agree than disagree that the Red Cross was right to describe the NHS was experiencing a humanitarian crisis (47% to 36%) but on who do they think would be better at managing the NHS winter crisis
Theresa May/Tories - 43%
Jeremy Corbyn/Labour - 31%
So a 12% lead for the Tories on the NHS.
This question invites people to pass judgement on both the parties AND the leaders. In other recent surveys, when the leader names are omitted, Labour has been shown to retain a modest lead on health.
This demonstrates - as if we didn't know it already - that Theresa May is a significant asset to the Conservatives, Jeremy Corbyn a terrible handicap for Labour.
More generally, the survey gives both sides something to come away with, but the public do tend to have emotionally overwrought reactions to questions relating to the funding of the NHS (most of them reflexively say it should always have more cash thrown it at,) and the management of the NHS (Health Secretaries are almost invariably woefully unpopular, even if people have never really heard of them before.)
One of the results that most strikes me is the one suggesting, once again, that voters favour paying more tax if it were to be hypothecated for health spending. I don't believe that for a second. Any party which goes into an election promising tax rises to fund social goodies will pay a price.
People say they're willing to pay these extra taxes in order to make themselves sound nice and feel virtuous, but different impulses assert themselves in the privacy of the ballot box. Most voters do not support such measures - or if they do, what they really mean is that the extra tax should only be paid by people whose total income is at least £1 higher than theirs.
Terribly cynical of me, I know.0 -
Both are zealots who think we must pay premiums to private insurers, the government will bail out the poor, and somehow the insurers won't charge for all the admin.TOPPING said:
Well they were both saying the unsayable about the NHS so I don't suppose Tezza will have the balls to employ or consult either. Shame, though - something needs to happen.David_Evershed said:
Jeremy Browne. Excellent.TOPPING said:Off topic - what an extremely sensible QT last night. Owen Patterson and Jeremy Whoever it was ex-LD talking an awful lot of sense on the NHS. Tezza should make one of them Health Secretary.
Very Orange. Classic neoliberal
Back from the dead?
Patterson did mention the Finnish system, which seems worth a look if it outperforms the UK system on no more money.
But if Labour hadn't cocked up the 2004 pay negotiations, which made UK doctors the best-paid in Europe, the NHS could probably deliver some of the best outcomes in the EU on the least money.0 -
The Corbyn effect:
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NI is a ridiculous tax on employment - no other form of income generation incurs it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Or if you are a pensioner put it on NI as it would not affect meBlack_Rook said:
In these sorts of surveys, everything depends on the exact question.TheScreamingEagles said:The NHS findings really are a kick in the nuts for Labour.
More people agree than disagree that the Red Cross was right to describe the NHS was experiencing a humanitarian crisis (47% to 36%) but on who do they think would be better at managing the NHS winter crisis
Theresa May/Tories - 43%
Jeremy Corbyn/Labour - 31%
So a 12% lead for the Tories on the NHS.
This question invites people to pass judgement on both the parties AND the leaders. In other recent surveys, when the leader names are omitted, Labour has been shown to retain a modest lead on health.
This demonstrates - as if we didn't know it already - that Theresa May is a significant asset to the Conservatives, Jeremy Corbyn a terrible handicap for Labour.
More generally, the survey gives both sides something to come away with, but the public do tend to have emotionally overwrought reactions to questions relating to the funding of the NHS (most of them reflexively say it should always have more cash thrown it at,) and the management of the NHS (Health Secretaries are almost invariably woefully unpopular, even if people have never really heard of them before.)
One of the results that most strikes me is the one suggesting, once again, that voters favour paying more tax if it were to be hypothecated for health spending. I don't believe that for a second. Any party which goes into an election promising tax rises to fund social goodies will pay a price.
People say they're willing to pay these extra taxes in order to make themselves sound nice and feel virtuous, but different impulses assert themselves in the privacy of the ballot box. Most voters do not support such measures - or if they do, what they really mean is that the extra tax should only be paid by people whose total income is at least £1 higher than theirs.
Terribly cynical of me, I know.
Stick it on BR. Yes I do pay BR, PAYE.0 -
Shocking numbers for Labour on the NHS. If they are that far behind on their star subject it is frankly surprising the polls are as close as they are.
I think one of the problems the NHS has is that the system is designed to work too close to capacity all the time. The result is that when demand increases they become increasingly inefficient with operations etc having to be cancelled for a lack of beds meaning that their skilled and expensive staff are not being effectively deployed. I agree with those that say money on its own cannot be the answer but we seem to have slipped past the point that the money is being productively spent.0 -
Arguably Brexit disproves this, or at least provides evidence to the contrary, if we can assume Leave voters believed both that there would be an economic penalty but the NHS would get an extra £350 million a week.Black_Rook said:One of the results that most strikes me is the one suggesting, once again, that voters favour paying more tax if it were to be hypothecated for health spending. I don't believe that for a second. Any party which goes into an election promising tax rises to fund social goodies will pay a price.
People say they're willing to pay these extra taxes in order to make themselves sound nice and feel virtuous, but different impulses assert themselves in the privacy of the ballot box. Most voters do not support such measures - or if they do, what they really mean is that the extra tax should only be paid by people whose total income is at least £1 higher than theirs.
Terribly cynical of me, I know.0 -
The problem with that is you're putting yourself at a competitive disadvantage with your money compared to other taxpayers !- anyway plenty of people give modest amounts to charity and so forth.another_richard said:
I am prepared more tax if it was earmarked for the NHS: 53%TheScreamingEagles said:
Those 53% can do so - all they have to do is go to a hospital with their cheque book and ask to make a donation.
In fact I've pointed that out to people who have told me that they would like to pay more tax as long as it went to the NHS and even offered to drive them then and there to a hospital of their choosing.
But I've never been taken up on the offer.0 -
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Excuse my ignorance but what is BRPulpstar said:
NI is a ridiculous tax on employment - no other form of income generation incurs it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Or if you are a pensioner put it on NI as it would not affect meBlack_Rook said:
In these sorts of surveys, everything depends on the exact question.TheScreamingEagles said:The NHS findings really are a kick in the nuts for Labour.
More people agree than disagree that the Red Cross was right to describe the NHS was experiencing a humanitarian crisis (47% to 36%) but on who do they think would be better at managing the NHS winter crisis
Theresa May/Tories - 43%
Jeremy Corbyn/Labour - 31%
So a 12% lead for the Tories on the NHS.
This question invites people to pass judgement on both the parties AND the leaders. In other recent surveys, when the leader names are omitted, Labour has been shown to retain a modest lead on health.
This demonstrates - as if we didn't know it already - that Theresa May is a significant asset to the Conservatives, Jeremy Corbyn a terrible handicap for Labour.
More generally, the survey gives both sides something to come away with, but the public do tend to have emotionally overwrought reactions to questions relating to the funding of the NHS (most of them reflexively say it should always have more cash thrown it at,) and the management of the NHS (Health Secretaries are almost invariably woefully unpopular, even if people have never really heard of them before.)
One of the results that most strikes me is the one suggesting, once again, that voters favour paying more tax if it were to be hypothecated for health spending. I don't believe that for a second. Any party which goes into an election promising tax rises to fund social goodies will pay a price.
People say they're willing to pay these extra taxes in order to make themselves sound nice and feel virtuous, but different impulses assert themselves in the privacy of the ballot box. Most voters do not support such measures - or if they do, what they really mean is that the extra tax should only be paid by people whose total income is at least £1 higher than theirs.
Terribly cynical of me, I know.
Stick it on BR. Yes I do pay BR, PAYE.0 -
Basic rate.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Excuse my ignorance but what is BRPulpstar said:
NI is a ridiculous tax on employment - no other form of income generation incurs it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Or if you are a pensioner put it on NI as it would not affect meBlack_Rook said:
In these sorts of surveys, everything depends on the exact question.TheScreamingEagles said:The NHS findings really are a kick in the nuts for Labour.
More people agree than disagree that the Red Cross was right to describe the NHS was experiencing a humanitarian crisis (47% to 36%) but on who do they think would be better at managing the NHS winter crisis
Theresa May/Tories - 43%
Jeremy Corbyn/Labour - 31%
So a 12% lead for the Tories on the NHS.
This question invites people to pass judgement on both the parties AND the leaders. In other recent surveys, when the leader names are omitted, Labour has been shown to retain a modest lead on health.
This demonstrates - as if we didn't know it already - that Theresa May is a significant asset to the Conservatives, Jeremy Corbyn a terrible handicap for Labour.
More generally, the survey gives both sides something to come away with, but the public do tend to have emotionally overwrought reactions to questions relating to the funding of the NHS (most of them reflexively say it should always have more cash thrown it at,) and the management of the NHS (Health Secretaries are almost invariably woefully unpopular, even if people have never really heard of them before.)
One of the results that most strikes me is the one suggesting, once again, that voters favour paying more tax if it were to be hypothecated for health spending. I don't believe that for a second. Any party which goes into an election promising tax rises to fund social goodies will pay a price.
People say they're willing to pay these extra taxes in order to make themselves sound nice and feel virtuous, but different impulses assert themselves in the privacy of the ballot box. Most voters do not support such measures - or if they do, what they really mean is that the extra tax should only be paid by people whose total income is at least £1 higher than theirs.
Terribly cynical of me, I know.
Stick it on BR. Yes I do pay BR, PAYE.
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Its interesting that the secondary questions suggest that support for the government is not that great. I would say the majority oppose the government's position on almost every question bar the first one. A competent opposition would be capitalising on this.David_Evershed said:
In the final question 30% of people want employers to have the freedom to set the pay of their staff - which means up to 30% are in favour of individual freeom and should be voting Lib Dem.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Yes, it is likely that too many beds and units were shut in the name of increasing efficiency and productivity. One man's waste is another man's spare capacity.DavidL said:Shocking numbers for Labour on the NHS. If they are that far behind on their star subject it is frankly surprising the polls are as close as they are.
I think one of the problems the NHS has is that the system is designed to work too close to capacity all the time. The result is that when demand increases they become increasingly inefficient with operations etc having to be cancelled for a lack of beds meaning that their skilled and expensive staff are not being effectively deployed. I agree with those that say money on its own cannot be the answer but we seem to have slipped past the point that the money is being productively spent.0 -
Well why didn't I realise that - getting past it - thanksPulpstar said:
Basic rate.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Excuse my ignorance but what is BRPulpstar said:
NI is a ridiculous tax on employment - no other form of income generation incurs it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Or if you are a pensioner put it on NI as it would not affect meBlack_Rook said:
In these sorts of surveys, everything depends on the exact question.TheScreamingEagles said:The NHS findings really are a kick in the nuts for Labour.
More people agree than disagree that the Red Cross was right to describe the NHS was experiencing a humanitarian crisis (47% to 36%) but on who do they think would be better at managing the NHS winter crisis
Theresa May/Tories - 43%
Jeremy Corbyn/Labour - 31%
So a 12% lead for the Tories on the NHS.
This question invites people to pass judgement on both the parties AND the leaders. In other recent surveys, when the leader names are omitted, Labour has been shown to retain a modest lead on health.
This demonstrates - as if we didn't know it already - that Theresa May is a significant asset to the Conservatives, Jeremy Corbyn a terrible handicap for Labour.
More generally, the survey gives both sides something to come away with, but the public do tend to have emotionally overwrought reactions to questions relating to the funding of the NHS (most of them reflexively say it should always have more cash thrown it at,) and the management of the NHS (Health Secretaries are almost invariably woefully unpopular, even if people have never really heard of them before.)
One of the results that most strikes me is the one suggesting, once again, that voters favour paying more tax if it were to be hypothecated for health spending. I don't believe that for a second. Any party which goes into an election promising tax rises to fund social goodies will pay a price.
People say they're willing to pay these extra taxes in order to make themselves sound nice and feel virtuous, but different impulses assert themselves in the privacy of the ballot box. Most voters do not support such measures - or if they do, what they really mean is that the extra tax should only be paid by people whose total income is at least £1 higher than theirs.
Terribly cynical of me, I know.
Stick it on BR. Yes I do pay BR, PAYE.0 -
Taxes on employment destroy jobs, what we need is to move on to taxes on consumption, so it rewards savers.Pulpstar said:
NI is a ridiculous tax on employment - no other form of income generation incurs it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Or if you are a pensioner put it on NI as it would not affect meBlack_Rook said:
In these sorts of surveys, everything depends on the exact question.TheScreamingEagles said:The NHS findings really are a kick in the nuts for Labour.
More people agree than disagree that the Red Cross was right to describe the NHS was experiencing a humanitarian crisis (47% to 36%) but on who do they think would be better at managing the NHS winter crisis
Theresa May/Tories - 43%
Jeremy Corbyn/Labour - 31%
So a 12% lead for the Tories on the NHS.
This question invites people to pass judgement on both the parties AND the leaders. In other recent surveys, when the leader names are omitted, Labour has been shown to retain a modest lead on health.
This demonstrates - as if we didn't know it already - that Theresa May is a significant asset to the Conservatives, Jeremy Corbyn a terrible handicap for Labour.
More generally, the survey gives both sides something to come away with, but the public do tend to have emotionally overwrought reactions to questions relating to the funding of the NHS (most of them reflexively say it should always have more cash thrown it at,) and the management of the NHS (Health Secretaries are almost invariably woefully unpopular, even if people have never really heard of them before.)
One of the results that most strikes me is the one suggesting, once again, that voters favour paying more tax if it were to be hypothecated for health spending. I don't believe that for a second. Any party which goes into an election promising tax rises to fund social goodies will pay a price.
People say they're willing to pay these extra taxes in order to make themselves sound nice and feel virtuous, but different impulses assert themselves in the privacy of the ballot box. Most voters do not support such measures - or if they do, what they really mean is that the extra tax should only be paid by people whose total income is at least £1 higher than theirs.
Terribly cynical of me, I know.
Stick it on BR. Yes I do pay BR, PAYE.0 -
Come on Leicester, do us all a favour.0
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They lack class, no wonder dossers are wanting to move into Oxford University, they've heard how easy it is.JosiasJessop said:Oxford Uni showing the quality of their staff:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38622560
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2017/01/10/squatters-take-university-oxford-building-turn-homeless-shelter/0 -
Some PFI hospitals are too small. At Hereford, some wartime prefabs remained in use. http://www.herefordtimes.com/news/13337051.Contract_partner_confirmed_for___40m__re_build__of_Hereford_County_Hospital/DecrepitJohnL said:
Yes, it is likely that too many beds and units were shut in the name of increasing efficiency and productivity. One man's waste is another man's spare capacity.DavidL said:Shocking numbers for Labour on the NHS. If they are that far behind on their star subject it is frankly surprising the polls are as close as they are.
I think one of the problems the NHS has is that the system is designed to work too close to capacity all the time. The result is that when demand increases they become increasingly inefficient with operations etc having to be cancelled for a lack of beds meaning that their skilled and expensive staff are not being effectively deployed. I agree with those that say money on its own cannot be the answer but we seem to have slipped past the point that the money is being productively spent.
Pretty F***ing Idiotic.0 -
A large organisation asked for my help in protecting confidential data on their computer systems. After a few days research and analysis, my advice was they did not need to collect it in the first place.JosiasJessop said:Oxford Uni showing the quality of their staff:
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Now 0 - 2DavidL said:Come on Leicester, do us all a favour.
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All the evidence is that Leave voters do not expect to pay any financial price for it.DecrepitJohnL said:
Arguably Brexit disproves this, or at least provides evidence to the contrary, if we can assume Leave voters believed both that there would be an economic penalty but the NHS would get an extra £350 million a week.Black_Rook said:One of the results that most strikes me is the one suggesting, once again, that voters favour paying more tax if it were to be hypothecated for health spending. I don't believe that for a second. Any party which goes into an election promising tax rises to fund social goodies will pay a price.
People say they're willing to pay these extra taxes in order to make themselves sound nice and feel virtuous, but different impulses assert themselves in the privacy of the ballot box. Most voters do not support such measures - or if they do, what they really mean is that the extra tax should only be paid by people whose total income is at least £1 higher than theirs.
Terribly cynical of me, I know.0 -
Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.0
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There speaks a true Tory - supporting regressive taxation.TheScreamingEagles said:
Taxes on employment destroy jobs, what we need is to move on to taxes on consumption, so it rewards savers.Pulpstar said:
NI is a ridiculous tax on employment - no other form of income generation incurs it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Or if you are a pensioner put it on NI as it would not affect meBlack_Rook said:
In these sorts of surveys, everything depends on the exact question.TheScreamingEagles said:The NHS findings really are a kick in the nuts for Labour.
More people agree than disagree that the Red Cross was right to describe the NHS was experiencing a humanitarian crisis (47% to 36%) but on who do they think would be better at managing the NHS winter crisis
Theresa May/Tories - 43%
Jeremy Corbyn/Labour - 31%
So a 12% lead for the Tories on the NHS.
This question invites people to pass judgement on both the parties AND the leaders. In other recent surveys, when the leader names are omitted, Labour has been shown to retain a modest lead on health.
This demonstrates - as if we didn't know it already - that Theresa May is a significant asset to the Conservatives, Jeremy Corbyn a terrible handicap for Labour.
More generally, the survey gives both sides something to come away with, but the public do tend to have emotionally overwrought reactions to questions relating to the funding of the NHS (most of them reflexively say it should always have more cash thrown it at,) and the management of the NHS (Health Secretaries are almost invariably woefully unpopular, even if people have never really heard of them before.)
One of the results that most strikes me is the one suggesting, once again, that voters favour paying more tax if it were to be hypothecated for health spending. I don't believe that for a second. Any party which goes into an election promising tax rises to fund social goodies will pay a price.
People say they're willing to pay these extra taxes in order to make themselves sound nice and feel virtuous, but different impulses assert themselves in the privacy of the ballot box. Most voters do not support such measures - or if they do, what they really mean is that the extra tax should only be paid by people whose total income is at least £1 higher than theirs.
Terribly cynical of me, I know.
Stick it on BR. Yes I do pay BR, PAYE.
The notion that you might jump ship to the LibDems has been totally dispelled!0 -
Only people who don't know me think I might jump ship to the Lib Dems.SandyRentool said:
There speaks a true Tory - supporting regressive taxation.TheScreamingEagles said:
Taxes on employment destroy jobs, what we need is to move on to taxes on consumption, so it rewards savers.Pulpstar said:
NI is a ridiculous tax on employment - no other form of income generation incurs it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Or if you are a pensioner put it on NI as it would not affect meBlack_Rook said:
In these sorts of surveys, everything depends on the exact question.TheScreamingEagles said:The NHS findings really are a kick in the nuts for Labour.
More people agree than disagree that the Red Cross was right to describe the NHS was experiencing a humanitarian crisis (47% to 36%) but on who do they think would be better at managing the NHS winter crisis
Theresa May/Tories - 43%
Jeremy Corbyn/Labour - 31%
So a 12% lead for the Tories on the NHS.
This question invites people to pass judgement on both the parties AND the leaders. In other recent surveys, when the leader names are omitted, Labour has been shown to retain a modest lead on health.
This demonstrates - as if we didn't know it already - that Theresa May is a significant asset to the Conservatives, Jeremy Corbyn a terrible handicap for Labour.
More generally, the survey gives both sides something to come away with, but the public do tend to have emotionally overwrought reactions to questions relating to the funding of the NHS (most of them reflexively say it should always have more cash thrown it at,) and the management of the NHS (Health Secretaries are almost invariably woefully unpopular, even if people have never really heard of them before.)
One of the results that most strikes me is the one suggesting, once again, that voters favour paying more tax if it were to be hypothecated for health spending. I don't believe that for a second. Any party which goes into an election promising tax rises to fund social goodies will pay a price.
People say they're willing to pay these extra taxes in order to make themselves sound nice and feel virtuous, but different impulses assert themselves in the privacy of the ballot box. Most voters do not support such measures - or if they do, what they really mean is that the extra tax should only be paid by people whose total income is at least £1 higher than theirs.
Terribly cynical of me, I know.
Stick it on BR. Yes I do pay BR, PAYE.
The notion that you might jump ship to the LibDems has been totally dispelled!
Why is it regressive to reward savers?0 -
Her ratings point to an enourmous landslide, larger than the polls I think. Lebo-Norpeth model.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
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You are easily pleased, she has schemed and plotted to get where she is , in all her career she has been bland, done nothing and continues in the same vein , leading a bunch of braying donkeys. Get a life.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
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But you would also know that it was your local hospital which was receiving the extra money.Pulpstar said:
The problem with that is you're putting yourself at a competitive disadvantage with your money compared to other taxpayers !- anyway plenty of people give modest amounts to charity and so forth.another_richard said:
I am prepared more tax if it was earmarked for the NHS: 53%TheScreamingEagles said:
Those 53% can do so - all they have to do is go to a hospital with their cheque book and ask to make a donation.
In fact I've pointed that out to people who have told me that they would like to pay more tax as long as it went to the NHS and even offered to drive them then and there to a hospital of their choosing.
But I've never been taken up on the offer.
In reality the people 'willing to pay more tax' for this issue or that cause are in fact only really willing for other people to pay more tax.0 -
hmm are you sure lib dems, arent much in favour of individual freedom if I can remind you of some policiesDavid_Evershed said:
In the final question 30% of people want employers to have the freedom to set the pay of their staff - which means up to 30% are in favour of individual freeom and should be voting Lib Dem.TheScreamingEagles said:
tax fizzy drinks
tax alcohol more
change definition of cider so the tax can be raised
ban cigarette branding on packets
ban houses that aren't zero carbon rated
ban smoking in cars
ban petrol and diesel cars
have state regulation of the press
Regulate goldfish0 -
I think that, irrespective of your politics, most people realise she has an impossible job and that she is doing her best.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
The next few weeks will see an important milestone for her as she takes on those who want to remain by almost any means and her respect for the leave vote and to be the architect of the process to leave the EU.
I also believe this could be a dangerous time for those the public may perceive as being obstructive to her including MP's and the HOL0 -
They are just talking bollox, when it comes to it they would not want to pay more and wasting any more would be stupid in any event. It needs a root and branch real reform from a bloated monster to a real health service. Free tits, free tatoo removal , free IVF etc are not the remit for a health service.another_richard said:
But you would also know that it was your local hospital which was receiving the extra money.Pulpstar said:
The problem with that is you're putting yourself at a competitive disadvantage with your money compared to other taxpayers !- anyway plenty of people give modest amounts to charity and so forth.another_richard said:
I am prepared more tax if it was earmarked for the NHS: 53%TheScreamingEagles said:
Those 53% can do so - all they have to do is go to a hospital with their cheque book and ask to make a donation.
In fact I've pointed that out to people who have told me that they would like to pay more tax as long as it went to the NHS and even offered to drive them then and there to a hospital of their choosing.
But I've never been taken up on the offer.
In reality the people 'willing to pay more tax' for this issue or that cause are in fact only really willing for other people to pay more tax.0 -
Yeah - shoulda woulda coulda. Zealot or not he mentioned several countries where the outcomes are better than ours for no greater spend. Including Finland.rural_voter said:
Both are zealots who think we must pay premiums to private insurers, the government will bail out the poor, and somehow the insurers won't charge for all the admin.TOPPING said:
Well they were both saying the unsayable about the NHS so I don't suppose Tezza will have the balls to employ or consult either. Shame, though - something needs to happen.David_Evershed said:
Jeremy Browne. Excellent.TOPPING said:Off topic - what an extremely sensible QT last night. Owen Patterson and Jeremy Whoever it was ex-LD talking an awful lot of sense on the NHS. Tezza should make one of them Health Secretary.
Very Orange. Classic neoliberal
Back from the dead?
Patterson did mention the Finnish system, which seems worth a look if it outperforms the UK system on no more money.
But if Labour hadn't cocked up the 2004 pay negotiations, which made UK doctors the best-paid in Europe, the NHS could probably deliver some of the best outcomes in the EU on the least money.0 -
What about those who support higher tax on consumption, higher tax on expensive (and multiple) property, lower tax on the low paid and a maximum earnings limit ?SandyRentool said:
There speaks a true Tory - supporting regressive taxation.TheScreamingEagles said:
Taxes on employment destroy jobs, what we need is to move on to taxes on consumption, so it rewards savers.Pulpstar said:
NI is a ridiculous tax on employment - no other form of income generation incurs it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Or if you are a pensioner put it on NI as it would not affect meBlack_Rook said:
In these sorts of surveys, everything depends on the exact question.TheScreamingEagles said:The NHS findings really are a kick in the nuts for Labour.
More people agree than disagree that the Red Cross was right to describe the NHS was experiencing a humanitarian crisis (47% to 36%) but on who do they think would be better at managing the NHS winter crisis
Theresa May/Tories - 43%
Jeremy Corbyn/Labour - 31%
So a 12% lead for the Tories on the NHS.
This question invites people to pass judgement on both the parties AND the leaders. In other recent surveys, when the leader names are omitted, Labour has been shown to retain a modest lead on health.
This demonstrates - as if we didn't know it already - that Theresa May is a significant asset to the Conservatives, Jeremy Corbyn a terrible handicap for Labour.
More generally, the survey gives both sides something to come away with, but the public do tend to have emotionally overwrought reactions to questions relating to the funding of the NHS (most of them reflexively say it should always have more cash thrown it at,) and the management of the NHS (Health Secretaries are almost invariably woefully unpopular, even if people have never really heard of them before.)
One of the results that most strikes me is the one suggesting, once again, that voters favour paying more tax if it were to be hypothecated for health spending. I don't believe that for a second. Any party which goes into an election promising tax rises to fund social goodies will pay a price.
People say they're willing to pay these extra taxes in order to make themselves sound nice and feel virtuous, but different impulses assert themselves in the privacy of the ballot box. Most voters do not support such measures - or if they do, what they really mean is that the extra tax should only be paid by people whose total income is at least £1 higher than theirs.
Terribly cynical of me, I know.
Stick it on BR. Yes I do pay BR, PAYE.
The notion that you might jump ship to the LibDems has been totally dispelled!
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We know you dont like her but who would you have in her placemalcolmg said:
You are easily pleased, she has schemed and plotted to get where she is , in all her career she has been bland, done nothing and continues in the same vein , leading a bunch of braying donkeys. Get a life.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
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Anybody that votes for cheating lying nomark Lib Dems should be tarred and feathered. They are a bunch of illeberal t***s as you point out.Pagan said:
hmm are you sure lib dems, arent much in favour of individual freedom if I can remind you of some policiesDavid_Evershed said:
In the final question 30% of people want employers to have the freedom to set the pay of their staff - which means up to 30% are in favour of individual freeom and should be voting Lib Dem.TheScreamingEagles said:
tax fizzy drinks
tax alcohol more
change definition of cider so the tax can be raised
ban cigarette branding on packets
ban houses that aren't zero carbon rated
ban smoking in cars
ban petrol and diesel cars
have state regulation of the press
Regulate goldfish0 -
What is impossible about her job????????Big_G_NorthWales said:
I think that, irrespective of your politics, most people realise she has an impossible job and that she is doing her best.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
The next few weeks will see an important milestone for her as she takes on those who want to remain by almost any means and her respect for the leave vote and to be the architect of the process to leave the EU.
I also believe this could be a dangerous time for those the public may perceive as being obstructive to her including MP's and the HOL0 -
Does anyone know what RodCrosby is predicting for the next election ?Pulpstar said:
Her ratings point to an enourmous landslide, larger than the polls I think. Lebo-Norpeth model.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
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Squaring the circle of Brexit as no matter what happens she will not please everyonemalcolmg said:
What is impossible about her job????????Big_G_NorthWales said:
I think that, irrespective of your politics, most people realise she has an impossible job and that she is doing her best.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
The next few weeks will see an important milestone for her as she takes on those who want to remain by almost any means and her respect for the leave vote and to be the architect of the process to leave the EU.
I also believe this could be a dangerous time for those the public may perceive as being obstructive to her including MP's and the HOL
Also Now 0 - 3 Chelsea0 -
An impossible question, I hate the tories but Labour are crap and the rest are just abominable. I despair at the state of the people running the country and fact that this lot of absolute right wing duffers are the best choice.Big_G_NorthWales said:
We know you dont like her but who would you have in her placemalcolmg said:
You are easily pleased, she has schemed and plotted to get where she is , in all her career she has been bland, done nothing and continues in the same vein , leading a bunch of braying donkeys. Get a life.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
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Wasn't Will Hutton once at the heart of the Labour Project, aspiring to run the country?JosiasJessop said:Oxford Uni showing the quality of their staff:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38622560
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There must be someone - Nicola perhapsmalcolmg said:
An impossible question, I hate the tories but Labour are crap and the rest are just abominable. I despair at the state of the people running the country and fact that this lot of absolute right wing duffers are the best choice.Big_G_NorthWales said:
We know you dont like her but who would you have in her placemalcolmg said:
You are easily pleased, she has schemed and plotted to get where she is , in all her career she has been bland, done nothing and continues in the same vein , leading a bunch of braying donkeys. Get a life.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
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We are where we are , she has to get on with it , my only hope is it leads to indyref2 and we get out of this disaster.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Squaring the circle of Brexit as no matter what happens she will not please everyonemalcolmg said:
What is impossible about her job????????Big_G_NorthWales said:
I think that, irrespective of your politics, most people realise she has an impossible job and that she is doing her best.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
The next few weeks will see an important milestone for her as she takes on those who want to remain by almost any means and her respect for the leave vote and to be the architect of the process to leave the EU.
I also believe this could be a dangerous time for those the public may perceive as being obstructive to her including MP's and the HOL
Also Now 0 - 3 Chelsea
A hard brexit and plenty of Sh** sandwiches coming up for sure.0 -
Excellent!DecrepitJohnL said:
A large organisation asked for my help in protecting confidential data on their computer systems. After a few days research and analysis, my advice was they did not need to collect it in the first place.JosiasJessop said:Oxford Uni showing the quality of their staff:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38622560
Did they accept that advice?0 -
Corbyn's handling of the anti Semitism issue..????? wasn't the "report" done my Ms Chakrabati.. who was subsequently honoured?0
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Are they any views as to the effects (political, economic or otherwise) if the government:
1) Got rid of the 45% tax 'encourage wealth creating entrepreneurs and the highly skilled'
2) Brought in a 100% tax on incomes over £1m 'fatcats and footballers'
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Just teasing.TheScreamingEagles said:
Only people who don't know me think I might jump ship to the Lib Dems.SandyRentool said:
There speaks a true Tory - supporting regressive taxation.TheScreamingEagles said:
Taxes on employment destroy jobs, what we need is to move on to taxes on consumption, so it rewards savers.Pulpstar said:
NI is a ridiculous tax on employment - no other form of income generation incurs it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Or if you are a pensioner put it on NI as it would not affect meBlack_Rook said:
In these sorts of surveys, everything depends on the exact question.TheScreamingEagles said:The NHS findings really are a kick in the nuts for Labour.
More people agree than disagree that the Red Cross was right to describe the NHS was experiencing a humanitarian crisis (47% to 36%) but on who do they think would be better at managing the NHS winter crisis
Theresa May/Tories - 43%
Jeremy Corbyn/Labour - 31%
So a 12% lead for the Tories on the NHS.
This question invites people to pass judgement on both the parties AND the leaders. In other recent surveys, when the leader names are omitted, Labour has been shown to retain a modest lead on health.
This demonstrates - as if we didn't know it already - that Theresa May is a significant asset to the Conservatives, Jeremy Corbyn a terrible handicap for Labour.
More generally, the survey gives both sides something to come away with, but the public do tend to have emotionally overwrought reactions to questions relating to the funding of the NHS (most of them reflexively say it should always have more cash thrown it at,) and the
One of the results that most strikes me is the one suggesting, once again, that voters favour paying more tax if it were to be hypothecated for health spending. I don't believe that for a second. Any party which goes into an election promising tax rises to fund social goodies will pay a price.
People say they're willing to pay these extra taxes in order to make themselves sound nice and feel virtuous, but different impulses assert themselves in the privacy of the ballot box. Most voters do not support such measures - or if they do, what they really mean is that the extra tax should only be paid by people whose total income is at least £1 higher than theirs.
Terribly cynical of me, I know.
Stick it on BR. Yes I do pay BR, PAYE.
The notion that you might jump ship to the LibDems has been totally dispelled!
Why is it regressive to reward savers?
Taxation on spending is regressive as it disproportionately impacts those on lower incomes.
As we know, the Tories love to increase VAT.0 -
PS: Chelsea look like winners this yearBig_G_NorthWales said:
Squaring the circle of Brexit as no matter what happens she will not please everyonemalcolmg said:
What is impossible about her job????????Big_G_NorthWales said:
I think that, irrespective of your politics, most people realise she has an impossible job and that she is doing her best.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
The next few weeks will see an important milestone for her as she takes on those who want to remain by almost any means and her respect for the leave vote and to be the architect of the process to leave the EU.
I also believe this could be a dangerous time for those the public may perceive as being obstructive to her including MP's and the HOL
Also Now 0 - 3 Chelsea0 -
I seriously doubt they will let her run Westminster, only hope is she gets independence.Big_G_NorthWales said:
There must be someone - Nicola perhapsmalcolmg said:
An impossible question, I hate the tories but Labour are crap and the rest are just abominable. I despair at the state of the people running the country and fact that this lot of absolute right wing duffers are the best choice.Big_G_NorthWales said:
We know you dont like her but who would you have in her placemalcolmg said:
You are easily pleased, she has schemed and plotted to get where she is , in all her career she has been bland, done nothing and continues in the same vein , leading a bunch of braying donkeys. Get a life.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
PS: A vaccuum is always bad , far better May gets out and details where she i sgoing , silenc efor much longer will kill her.0 -
Do you really believe Indy 2 is the answer.malcolmg said:
We are where we are , she has to get on with it , my only hope is it leads to indyref2 and we get out of this disaster.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Squaring the circle of Brexit as no matter what happens she will not please everyonemalcolmg said:
What is impossible about her job????????Big_G_NorthWales said:
I think that, irrespective of your politics, most people realise she has an impossible job and that she is doing her best.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
The next few weeks will see an important milestone for her as she takes on those who want to remain by almost any means and her respect for the leave vote and to be the architect of the process to leave the EU.
I also believe this could be a dangerous time for those the public may perceive as being obstructive to her including MP's and the HOL
Also Now 0 - 3 Chelsea
A hard brexit and plenty of Sh** sandwiches coming up for sure.
Also the Scottish fishermen want Brexit and most of them are SNP.
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Tbh, I do not know.JosiasJessop said:
Excellent!DecrepitJohnL said:
A large organisation asked for my help in protecting confidential data on their computer systems. After a few days research and analysis, my advice was they did not need to collect it in the first place.JosiasJessop said:Oxford Uni showing the quality of their staff:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38622560
Did they accept that advice?0 -
I can see no decent UK solution, it will be hard brexit and years of pain or we will get crap deal , pay more for it and have same issues. England want out and we will be dragged kicking and screaming over the edge whether we like it or not. It is not going to end well.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Do you really believe Indy 2 is the answer.malcolmg said:
We are where we are , she has to get on with it , my only hope is it leads to indyref2 and we get out of this disaster.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Squaring the circle of Brexit as no matter what happens she will not please everyonemalcolmg said:
What is impossible about her job????????Big_G_NorthWales said:
I think that, irrespective of your politics, most people realise she has an impossible job and that she is doing her best.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
The next few weeks will see an important milestone for her as she takes on those who want to remain by almost any means and her respect for the leave vote and to be the architect of the process to leave the EU.
I also believe this could be a dangerous time for those the public may perceive as being obstructive to her including MP's and the HOL
Also Now 0 - 3 Chelsea
A hard brexit and plenty of Sh** sandwiches coming up for sure.
Also the Scottish fishermen want Brexit and most of them are SNP.0 -
I believe that Opinium has made adjustments since 2015 - but of a different kind.HYUFD said:
Only because Opinium is the only pollster to have made no adjustments since the general election which is why it gets a repeat of the 2015 result and has Labour and UKIP higher than other pollsters and the LDs and Tories lower. I grant you Labour will probably hold Stoke but most polls show Copeland is too close to calljustin124 said:
On those figures Labour would easily retain both seats.surbiton said:
2015 General Election result. Corbyn Team will take it now.TheScreamingEagles said:Opinium/Observer poll
Con 38 (nc) Lab 30 (-1) Lib Dems 7 (+1) UKIP 14 (+1)
And
If the government has to choose between staying in the single market or ending free movement, 41% would opt for the latter, and 32% the former.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/14/labour-struggling-build-voter-support-poll-theresa-may-jeremy-corbyn
Staying in the Single Market is becoming more popular.0 -
Worth noting that in the Comres question on the wage cap Corbyn is not named; unlike in the question on the NHS.0
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NI in principle should be the most effective tax ie funding your state pension and most of your unemployment benefit if needed as originally intended, however too many governments have just used the revenue as a general cash cowPulpstar said:
NI is a ridiculous tax on employment - no other form of income generation incurs it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Or if you are a pensioner put it on NI as it would not affect meBlack_Rook said:
In these sorts of surveys, everything depends on the exact question.TheScreamingEagles said:The NHS findings really are a kick in the nuts for Labour.
More people agree than disagree that the Red Cross was right to describe the NHS was experiencing a humanitarian crisis (47% to 36%) but on who do they think would be better at managing the NHS winter crisis
Theresa May/Tories - 43%
Jeremy Corbyn/Labour - 31%
So a 12% lead for the Tories on the NHS.
This question invites people to pass judgement on both the parties AND the leaders. In other recent surveys, when the leader names are omitted, Labour has been shown to retain a modest lead on health.
This demonstrates - as if we didn't know it already - that Theresa May is a significant asset to the Conservatives, Jeremy Corbyn a terrible handicap for Labour.
More generally, the survey gives both sides something to come away with, but the public do tend to have emotionally overwrought reactions to questions relating to the funding of the NHS (most of them reflexively say it should always have more cash thrown it at,) and the management of the NHS (Health Secretaries are almost invariably woefully unpopular, even if people have never really heard of them before.)
One of the results that most strikes me is the one suggesting, once again, that voters favour paying more tax if it were to be hypothecated for health spending. I don't believe that for a second. Any party which goes into an election promising tax rises to fund social goodies will pay a price.
People say they're willing to pay these extra taxes in order to make themselves sound nice and feel virtuous, but different impulses assert themselves in the privacy of the ballot box. Most voters do not support such measures - or if they do, what they really mean is that the extra tax should only be paid by people whose total income is at least £1 higher than theirs.
Terribly cynical of me, I know.
Stick it on BR. Yes I do pay BR, PAYE.0 -
An interesting question :>another_richard said:Are they any views as to the effects (political, economic or otherwise) if the government:
1) Got rid of the 45% tax 'encourage wealth creating entrepreneurs and the highly skilled'
2) Brought in a 100% tax on incomes over £1m 'fatcats and footballers'
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At the moment, I think, Con 650 - The Rest 0another_richard said:
Does anyone know what RodCrosby is predicting for the next election ?Pulpstar said:
Her ratings point to an enourmous landslide, larger than the polls I think. Lebo-Norpeth model.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
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Anyone with some charisma !Big_G_NorthWales said:
We know you dont like her but who would you have in her placemalcolmg said:
You are easily pleased, she has schemed and plotted to get where she is , in all her career she has been bland, done nothing and continues in the same vein , leading a bunch of braying donkeys. Get a life.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
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Well they do not seem to be having much impactjustin124 said:
I believe that Opinium has made adjustments since 2015 - but of a different kind.HYUFD said:
Only because Opinium is the only pollster to have made no adjustments since the general election which is why it gets a repeat of the 2015 result and has Labour and UKIP higher than other pollsters and the LDs and Tories lower. I grant you Labour will probably hold Stoke but most polls show Copeland is too close to calljustin124 said:
On those figures Labour would easily retain both seats.surbiton said:
2015 General Election result. Corbyn Team will take it now.TheScreamingEagles said:Opinium/Observer poll
Con 38 (nc) Lab 30 (-1) Lib Dems 7 (+1) UKIP 14 (+1)
And
If the government has to choose between staying in the single market or ending free movement, 41% would opt for the latter, and 32% the former.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/14/labour-struggling-build-voter-support-poll-theresa-may-jeremy-corbyn
Staying in the Single Market is becoming more popular.0 -
We have had enough of Blairs and Camerons for the moment, Cameron promised a brilliant renegotiation but it was all hot air, done in 5 minutes and he got virtually nothing, May will at least do some prep before handsurbiton said:
Anyone with some charisma !Big_G_NorthWales said:
We know you dont like her but who would you have in her placemalcolmg said:
You are easily pleased, she has schemed and plotted to get where she is , in all her career she has been bland, done nothing and continues in the same vein , leading a bunch of braying donkeys. Get a life.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
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You may be right but on the other hand this could be a one off golden opportunity to carve a new future for all of us in the UK, and I genuinely mean all of the UKmalcolmg said:
I can see no decent UK solution, it will be hard brexit and years of pain or we will get crap deal , pay more for it and have same issues. England want out and we will be dragged kicking and screaming over the edge whether we like it or not. It is not going to end well.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Do you really believe Indy 2 is the answer.malcolmg said:
We are where we are , she has to get on with it , my only hope is it leads to indyref2 and we get out of this disaster.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Squaring the circle of Brexit as no matter what happens she will not please everyonemalcolmg said:
What is impossible about her job????????Big_G_NorthWales said:
I think that, irrespective of your politics, most people realise she has an impossible job and that she is doing her best.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
The next few weeks will see an important milestone for her as she takes on those who want to remain by almost any means and her respect for the leave vote and to be the architect of the process to leave the EU.
I also believe this could be a dangerous time for those the public may perceive as being obstructive to her including MP's and the HOL
Also Now 0 - 3 Chelsea
A hard brexit and plenty of Sh** sandwiches coming up for sure.
Also the Scottish fishermen want Brexit and most of them are SNP.
I think the biggest problem for everyone is the uncertainty magnified many times by the election of Trump. The World order has been stood on it's head and I cannot recall a time in my 73 years when so many people are fearful of the future (maybe when Russia and US were threatening nuclear war in the late 50's early 60's)0 -
I agree with that and expect her speech on tuesday and the next few weeks will give much more claritymalcolmg said:
I seriously doubt they will let her run Westminster, only hope is she gets independence.Big_G_NorthWales said:
There must be someone - Nicola perhapsmalcolmg said:
An impossible question, I hate the tories but Labour are crap and the rest are just abominable. I despair at the state of the people running the country and fact that this lot of absolute right wing duffers are the best choice.Big_G_NorthWales said:
We know you dont like her but who would you have in her placemalcolmg said:
You are easily pleased, she has schemed and plotted to get where she is , in all her career she has been bland, done nothing and continues in the same vein , leading a bunch of braying donkeys. Get a life.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
PS: A vaccuum is always bad , far better May gets out and details where she i sgoing , silenc efor much longer will kill her.0 -
Well who thensurbiton said:
Anyone with some charisma !Big_G_NorthWales said:
We know you dont like her but who would you have in her placemalcolmg said:
You are easily pleased, she has schemed and plotted to get where she is , in all her career she has been bland, done nothing and continues in the same vein , leading a bunch of braying donkeys. Get a life.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
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What's the deficit now ? 560 billion ?Big_G_NorthWales said:
Despite the constant negative stories on the NHS I do believe that people are beginning to question the constant demand for billions more and even if it is forthcoming how it is spent will be of most concern.TOPPING said:
One would hope that people are beginning to realise that the largest injection of money into the NHS came under Tone & Gordo and that we are still where we are.Slackbladder said:
I know I'm a tory supporter, but how the flying f*** are they not being hammered on the NHS?TheScreamingEagles said:The NHS findings really are a kick in the nuts for Labour.
More people agree than disagree that the Red Cross was right to describe the NHS was experiencing a humanitarian crisis (47% to 36%) but on who do they think would be better at managing the NHS winter crisis
Theresa May/Tories - 43%
Jeremy Corbyn/Labour - 31%
So a 12% lead for the Tories on the NHS.
Corbyn is utter shite.
I appreciate that there is a huge social care dimension to the state of the NHS atm but nevertheless, perhaps people realise that spunking money up the (ward) wall isn't always the answer.
Sky reporting this morning big support for Theresa May on withholding funds on doctors not opening 8 - 8 - 7 days a week. How many know the Government has allocated in excess of 500,000 million for this improved GP service
There will be a big clamour to increase salaries but that will not address the massive increase in demand and you can bet that if Corbyn was given cart blanche it would go on salaries.
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How do we know? Without its adjustments the Tory lead might be just 3%. Perhaps some pollsters such as ICM and YouGov have made too many adjustments. Only time will tell.HYUFD said:
Well they do not seem to be having much impactjustin124 said:
I believe that Opinium has made adjustments since 2015 - but of a different kind.HYUFD said:
Only because Opinium is the only pollster to have made no adjustments since the general election which is why it gets a repeat of the 2015 result and has Labour and UKIP higher than other pollsters and the LDs and Tories lower. I grant you Labour will probably hold Stoke but most polls show Copeland is too close to calljustin124 said:
On those figures Labour would easily retain both seats.surbiton said:
2015 General Election result. Corbyn Team will take it now.TheScreamingEagles said:Opinium/Observer poll
Con 38 (nc) Lab 30 (-1) Lib Dems 7 (+1) UKIP 14 (+1)
And
If the government has to choose between staying in the single market or ending free movement, 41% would opt for the latter, and 32% the former.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/14/labour-struggling-build-voter-support-poll-theresa-may-jeremy-corbyn
Staying in the Single Market is becoming more popular.0 -
Opinium has the biggest support for hard Brexit coming from Wales!malcolmg said:
I can see no decent UK solution, it will be hard brexit and years of pain or we will get crap deal , pay more for it and have same issues. England want out and we will be dragged kicking and screaming over the edge whether we like it or not. It is not going to end well.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Do you really believe Indy 2 is the answer.malcolmg said:
We are where we are , she has to get on with it , my only hope is it leads to indyref2 and we get out of this disaster.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Squaring the circle of Brexit as no matter what happens she will not please everyonemalcolmg said:
What is impossible about her job????????Big_G_NorthWales said:
I think that, irrespective of your politics, most people realise she has an impossible job and that she is doing her best.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
The next few weeks will see an important milestone for her as she takes on those who want to remain by almost any means and her respect for the leave vote and to be the architect of the process to leave the EU.
I also believe this could be a dangerous time for those the public may perceive as being obstructive to her including MP's and the HOL
Also Now 0 - 3 Chelsea
A hard brexit and plenty of Sh** sandwiches coming up for sure.
Also the Scottish fishermen want Brexit and most of them are SNP.0 -
TSE will say Cameron.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Well who thensurbiton said:
Anyone with some charisma !Big_G_NorthWales said:
We know you dont like her but who would you have in her placemalcolmg said:
You are easily pleased, she has schemed and plotted to get where she is , in all her career she has been bland, done nothing and continues in the same vein , leading a bunch of braying donkeys. Get a life.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
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Given the Labour voteshare has fallen in all 3 by elections fought by the main parties since the referendum I think we can say which pollsters are more likely to be right but as you say time will tell and Copeland and Stoke will give a stronger clue as both are held by Labourjustin124 said:
How do we know? Without its adjustments the Tory lead might be just 3%. Perhaps some pollsters such as ICM and YouGov have made too many adjustments. Only time will tell.HYUFD said:
Well they do not seem to be having much impactjustin124 said:
I believe that Opinium has made adjustments since 2015 - but of a different kind.HYUFD said:
Only because Opinium is the only pollster to have made no adjustments since the general election which is why it gets a repeat of the 2015 result and has Labour and UKIP higher than other pollsters and the LDs and Tories lower. I grant you Labour will probably hold Stoke but most polls show Copeland is too close to calljustin124 said:
On those figures Labour would easily retain both seats.surbiton said:
2015 General Election result. Corbyn Team will take it now.TheScreamingEagles said:Opinium/Observer poll
Con 38 (nc) Lab 30 (-1) Lib Dems 7 (+1) UKIP 14 (+1)
And
If the government has to choose between staying in the single market or ending free movement, 41% would opt for the latter, and 32% the former.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/14/labour-struggling-build-voter-support-poll-theresa-may-jeremy-corbyn
Staying in the Single Market is becoming more popular.0 -
Justin - you are so loyal and always looking on the bright side for labour, if there is onejustin124 said:
How do we know? Without its adjustments the Tory lead might be just 3%. Perhaps some pollsters such as ICM and YouGov have made too many adjustments. Only time will tell.HYUFD said:
Well they do not seem to be having much impactjustin124 said:
I believe that Opinium has made adjustments since 2015 - but of a different kind.HYUFD said:
Only because Opinium is the only pollster to have made no adjustments since the general election which is why it gets a repeat of the 2015 result and has Labour and UKIP higher than other pollsters and the LDs and Tories lower. I grant you Labour will probably hold Stoke but most polls show Copeland is too close to calljustin124 said:
On those figures Labour would easily retain both seats.surbiton said:
2015 General Election result. Corbyn Team will take it now.TheScreamingEagles said:Opinium/Observer poll
Con 38 (nc) Lab 30 (-1) Lib Dems 7 (+1) UKIP 14 (+1)
And
If the government has to choose between staying in the single market or ending free movement, 41% would opt for the latter, and 32% the former.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/14/labour-struggling-build-voter-support-poll-theresa-may-jeremy-corbyn
Staying in the Single Market is becoming more popular.0 -
The man who failed to get the renegotiation leading to us leaving the EU in the first place. Sorry we do not need someone with charisma at the moment, what we need is someone dry, dull, tough and willing to put in the hard work of the Brexit negotiations which will dominate the remainder of this Parliamentsurbiton said:
TSE will say Cameron.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Well who thensurbiton said:
Anyone with some charisma !Big_G_NorthWales said:
We know you dont like her but who would you have in her placemalcolmg said:
You are easily pleased, she has schemed and plotted to get where she is , in all her career she has been bland, done nothing and continues in the same vein , leading a bunch of braying donkeys. Get a life.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
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SpaceX have completed their primary mission and delivered ten Iridium satellites into orbit, and have also completed their secondary mission in successfully landing the first stage.
Woohoo!
Now they just need to refly a landed first stage - hopefully next month on SES-10.0 -
I'd vote for Nicola, but unfortunately I don't think the SNP are planning to stand a candidate in Ealing Central & Acton.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Well who thensurbiton said:
Anyone with some charisma !Big_G_NorthWales said:
We know you dont like her but who would you have in her placemalcolmg said:
You are easily pleased, she has schemed and plotted to get where she is , in all her career she has been bland, done nothing and continues in the same vein , leading a bunch of braying donkeys. Get a life.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
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Didn't you vote to leave thoughmalcolmg said:
I can see no decent UK solution, it will be hard brexit and years of pain or we will get crap deal , pay more for it and have same issues. England want out and we will be dragged kicking and screaming over the edge whether we like it or not. It is not going to end well.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Do you really believe Indy 2 is the answer.malcolmg said:
We are where we are , she has to get on with it , my only hope is it leads to indyref2 and we get out of this disaster.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Squaring the circle of Brexit as no matter what happens she will not please everyonemalcolmg said:
What is impossible about her job????????Big_G_NorthWales said:
I think that, irrespective of your politics, most people realise she has an impossible job and that she is doing her best.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
The next few weeks will see an important milestone for her as she takes on those who want to remain by almost any means and her respect for the leave vote and to be the architect of the process to leave the EU.
I also believe this could be a dangerous time for those the public may perceive as being obstructive to her including MP's and the HOL
Also Now 0 - 3 Chelsea
A hard brexit and plenty of Sh** sandwiches coming up for sure.
Also the Scottish fishermen want Brexit and most of them are SNP.
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You could move to Scotland. It is a great place to liveThomasNashe said:
I'd vote for Nicola, but unfortunately I don't think the SNP are planning to stand a candidate in Ealing Central & Acton.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Well who thensurbiton said:
Anyone with some charisma !Big_G_NorthWales said:
We know you dont like her but who would you have in her placemalcolmg said:
You are easily pleased, she has schemed and plotted to get where she is , in all her career she has been bland, done nothing and continues in the same vein , leading a bunch of braying donkeys. Get a life.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
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My work colleague is seriously considering retiring to the Isle of Arran.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You could move to Scotland. It is a great place to liveThomasNashe said:
I'd vote for Nicola, but unfortunately I don't think the SNP are planning to stand a candidate in Ealing Central & Acton.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Well who thensurbiton said:
Anyone with some charisma !Big_G_NorthWales said:
We know you dont like her but who would you have in her placemalcolmg said:
You are easily pleased, she has schemed and plotted to get where she is , in all her career she has been bland, done nothing and continues in the same vein , leading a bunch of braying donkeys. Get a life.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
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Look - I am not a Labour party member - and have only voted Labour at one of the last five General Elections! I am seeking a bit of intellectual objectivity rather than the wishful thinking that so many seem to prefer.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Justin - you are so loyal and always looking on the bright side for labour, if there is onejustin124 said:
How do we know? Without its adjustments the Tory lead might be just 3%. Perhaps some pollsters such as ICM and YouGov have made too many adjustments. Only time will tell.HYUFD said:
Well they do not seem to be having much impactjustin124 said:
I believe that Opinium has made adjustments since 2015 - but of a different kind.HYUFD said:
Only because Opinium is the only pollster to have made no adjustments since the general election which is why it gets a repeat of the 2015 result and has Labour and UKIP higher than other pollsters and the LDs and Tories lower. I grant you Labour will probably hold Stoke but most polls show Copeland is too close to calljustin124 said:
On those figures Labour would easily retain both seats.surbiton said:
2015 General Election result. Corbyn Team will take it now.TheScreamingEagles said:Opinium/Observer poll
Con 38 (nc) Lab 30 (-1) Lib Dems 7 (+1) UKIP 14 (+1)
And
If the government has to choose between staying in the single market or ending free movement, 41% would opt for the latter, and 32% the former.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/14/labour-struggling-build-voter-support-poll-theresa-may-jeremy-corbyn
Staying in the Single Market is becoming more popular.0 -
There's got to be a non-zero chance the Supreme Court will throw a major curve-ball over Scotland.malcolmg said:
I can see no decent UK solution, it will be hard brexit and years of pain or we will get crap deal , pay more for it and have same issues. England want out and we will be dragged kicking and screaming over the edge whether we like it or not. It is not going to end well.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Do you really believe Indy 2 is the answer.malcolmg said:
We are where we are , she has to get on with it , my only hope is it leads to indyref2 and we get out of this disaster.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Squaring the circle of Brexit as no matter what happens she will not please everyonemalcolmg said:
What is impossible about her job????????Big_G_NorthWales said:
I think that, irrespective of your politics, most people realise she has an impossible job and that she is doing her best.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
The next few weeks will see an important milestone for her as she takes on those who want to remain by almost any means and her respect for the leave vote and to be the architect of the process to leave the EU.
I also believe this could be a dangerous time for those the public may perceive as being obstructive to her including MP's and the HOL
Also Now 0 - 3 Chelsea
A hard brexit and plenty of Sh** sandwiches coming up for sure.
Also the Scottish fishermen want Brexit and most of them are SNP.0 -
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If it is held on the 4th May the political climate may well have moved on from Brexit as we enter two years of negotiatingsurbiton said:
They should win as long as they play the REMAIN card [ meaning Single Market ] hard.theakes said:Gosh Lib Dems now down to 9 -2 to win Stoke Central at William Hill.
The same in Copeland.0 -
I know, but don't think I could manage the commute.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You could move to Scotland. It is a great place to liveThomasNashe said:
I'd vote for Nicola, but unfortunately I don't think the SNP are planning to stand a candidate in Ealing Central & Acton.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Well who thensurbiton said:
Anyone with some charisma !Big_G_NorthWales said:
We know you dont like her but who would you have in her placemalcolmg said:
You are easily pleased, she has schemed and plotted to get where she is , in all her career she has been bland, done nothing and continues in the same vein , leading a bunch of braying donkeys. Get a life.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
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Gives life to two birds with one stone !williamglenn said:
There's got to be a non-zero chance the Supreme Court will throw a major curve-ball over Scotland.malcolmg said:
I can see no decent UK solution, it will be hard brexit and years of pain or we will get crap deal , pay more for it and have same issues. England want out and we will be dragged kicking and screaming over the edge whether we like it or not. It is not going to end well.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Do you really believe Indy 2 is the answer.malcolmg said:
We are where we are , she has to get on with it , my only hope is it leads to indyref2 and we get out of this disaster.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Squaring the circle of Brexit as no matter what happens she will not please everyonemalcolmg said:
What is impossible about her job????????Big_G_NorthWales said:
I think that, irrespective of your politics, most people realise she has an impossible job and that she is doing her best.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
The next few weeks will see an important milestone for her as she takes on those who want to remain by almost any means and her respect for the leave vote and to be the architect of the process to leave the EU.
I also believe this could be a dangerous time for those the public may perceive as being obstructive to her including MP's and the HOL
Also Now 0 - 3 Chelsea
A hard brexit and plenty of Sh** sandwiches coming up for sure.
Also the Scottish fishermen want Brexit and most of them are SNP.0 -
You never know ... they might stand thereBig_G_NorthWales said:
You could move to Scotland. It is a great place to liveThomasNashe said:
I'd vote for Nicola, but unfortunately I don't think the SNP are planning to stand a candidate in Ealing Central & Acton.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Well who thensurbiton said:
Anyone with some charisma !Big_G_NorthWales said:
We know you dont like her but who would you have in her placemalcolmg said:
You are easily pleased, she has schemed and plotted to get where she is , in all her career she has been bland, done nothing and continues in the same vein , leading a bunch of braying donkeys. Get a life.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
http://www.aol.co.uk/news/2016/12/13/snp-tempted-to-stand-candidates-in-england-nicola-sturgeon/0 -
Fair enough then - good on youjustin124 said:
Look - I am not a Labour party member - and have only voted Labour at one of the last five General Elections! I am seeking a bit of intellectual objectivity rather than the wishful thinking that so many seem to prefer.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Justin - you are so loyal and always looking on the bright side for labour, if there is onejustin124 said:
How do we know? Without its adjustments the Tory lead might be just 3%. Perhaps some pollsters such as ICM and YouGov have made too many adjustments. Only time will tell.HYUFD said:
Well they do not seem to be having much impactjustin124 said:
I believe that Opinium has made adjustments since 2015 - but of a different kind.HYUFD said:
Only because Opinium is the only pollster to have made no adjustments since the general election which is why it gets a repeat of the 2015 result and has Labour and UKIP higher than other pollsters and the LDs and Tories lower. I grant you Labour will probably hold Stoke but most polls show Copeland is too close to calljustin124 said:
On those figures Labour would easily retain both seats.surbiton said:
2015 General Election result. Corbyn Team will take it now.TheScreamingEagles said:Opinium/Observer poll
Con 38 (nc) Lab 30 (-1) Lib Dems 7 (+1) UKIP 14 (+1)
And
If the government has to choose between staying in the single market or ending free movement, 41% would opt for the latter, and 32% the former.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/14/labour-struggling-build-voter-support-poll-theresa-may-jeremy-corbyn
Staying in the Single Market is becoming more popular.0 -
My Wife's Father lived on Arran. Beautiful and irresistible - fantastic choicePulpstar said:
My work colleague is seriously considering retiring to the Isle of Arran.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You could move to Scotland. It is a great place to liveThomasNashe said:
I'd vote for Nicola, but unfortunately I don't think the SNP are planning to stand a candidate in Ealing Central & Acton.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Well who thensurbiton said:
Anyone with some charisma !Big_G_NorthWales said:
We know you dont like her but who would you have in her placemalcolmg said:
You are easily pleased, she has schemed and plotted to get where she is , in all her career she has been bland, done nothing and continues in the same vein , leading a bunch of braying donkeys. Get a life.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
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Copeland should be Labour with the right [ literally ] selection. That selection will not please me though.Pulpstar said:
Stoke is a gone-er as long as the Lib Dems stick to hard REMAIN. The opposition will be split three ways.0 -
Quicker than on SouthernThomasNashe said:
I know, but don't think I could manage the commute.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You could move to Scotland. It is a great place to liveThomasNashe said:
I'd vote for Nicola, but unfortunately I don't think the SNP are planning to stand a candidate in Ealing Central & Acton.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Well who thensurbiton said:
Anyone with some charisma !Big_G_NorthWales said:
We know you dont like her but who would you have in her placemalcolmg said:
You are easily pleased, she has schemed and plotted to get where she is , in all her career she has been bland, done nothing and continues in the same vein , leading a bunch of braying donkeys. Get a life.Razedabode said:Pundits seem to be coming to some sort of realisation that people do actually like Theresa May. I do - but cant quite put my finger on why. Part of me thinks she had such a difficult role after Cameron's feck up some respect is required.
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Stoke voted 69% Leave, the LDs have no chance there, if they won it Farron would be heading for number 10 with a landslide majority. For example the LDs got just 11% in Sleaford and Hykeham in an area which voted 62% Leave. It will be a Labour hold with a reduced majority. Copeland will be neck and neck between the Tories and Laboursurbiton said:
Copeland should be Labour with the right [ literally ] selection. That selection will not please me though.Pulpstar said:
Stoke is a gone-er as long as the Lib Dems stick to hard REMAIN. The opposition will be split three ways.0 -
Black_Rook said:
' We have already passed the point in this Parliament relative to which - when the election eventually occurred - a Labour Party in Opposition has ALWAYS polled lower. '
That is not ACTUALLY true! To take the 1987 - 1992 Parliament - there were polls in early 1991 giving Labour ratings of 34 and 32% - yet at the 1992 election they polled 35.2%. Going back to the 1959 - 1964 Parliament there were polls as late as October 1962 giving Labour a poll rating several points lower than achieved in October 1964.0 -
To help us assess UKIP chances in Stoke, there are two by-elections coming up in Rotherham on Feb 2.
Two more failures like Sunderland last week and it points at defeat in the Potteries.0 -
I don't know. I was only peripherally involved in the project. Basically I suggested that instead of collecting a whole load of personal data, it might be safer to issue a sort-of serial number.JosiasJessop said:
Excellent!DecrepitJohnL said:
A large organisation asked for my help in protecting confidential data on their computer systems. After a few days research and analysis, my advice was they did not need to collect it in the first place.JosiasJessop said:Oxford Uni showing the quality of their staff:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38622560
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UKIP is all talk and no action. When Farage couldn't win in uber UKIP territory , Thanet then they cannot win anywhere. Carswell is a Tory.SandyRentool said:To help us assess UKIP chances in Stoke, there are two by-elections coming up in Rotherham on Feb 2.
Two more failures like Sunderland last week and it points at defeat in the Potteries.0 -
Think the same applies to labour. The Sunderland result was astonishingSandyRentool said:To help us assess UKIP chances in Stoke, there are two by-elections coming up in Rotherham on Feb 2.
Two more failures like Sunderland last week and it points at defeat in the Potteries.0 -
60% of the 69% will vote for Con, UKIP or Labour. 9% of the Remain [ mostly Labour ] + the 31% will vote LD.HYUFD said:
Stoke voted 69% Leave, the LDs have no chance there, if they won it Farron would be heading for number 10 with a landslide majority. For example the LDs got just 11% in Sleaford and Hykeham in an area which voted 62% Leave. It will be a Labour hold with a reduced majority. Copeland will be neck and neck between the Tories and Laboursurbiton said:
Copeland should be Labour with the right [ literally ] selection. That selection will not please me though.Pulpstar said:
Stoke is a gone-er as long as the Lib Dems stick to hard REMAIN. The opposition will be split three ways.
LD will get the Remain vote and the NOTA vote. They should not be ruled out in Copeland either.0 -
The Tories will get some of the Remain and most of them will stick with Labour, there will be small leakage to the LDs at most. I was phoning in Copeland last week for 2 hours and got 1 LD the entire time. In both seats the LDs did worse than they did nationally at the general election and both areas also voted Leave, as was the case in Sleaford and Hykeham where they came thirdsurbiton said:
60% of the 69% will vote for Con, UKIP or Labour. 9% of the Remain [ mostly Labour ] + the 31% will vote LD.HYUFD said:
Stoke voted 69% Leave, the LDs have no chance there, if they won it Farron would be heading for number 10 with a landslide majority. For example the LDs got just 11% in Sleaford and Hykeham in an area which voted 62% Leave. It will be a Labour hold with a reduced majority. Copeland will be neck and neck between the Tories and Laboursurbiton said:
Copeland should be Labour with the right [ literally ] selection. That selection will not please me though.Pulpstar said:
Stoke is a gone-er as long as the Lib Dems stick to hard REMAIN. The opposition will be split three ways.
LD will get the Remain vote and the NOTA vote. They should not be ruled out in Copeland either.0 -
The Sunderland result in the Sandill Ward was almost entirely down to the local councillor resigning due to non-attendance and a massive protest vote, the LDs were second in the ward in 2010, it was not a sign all Sunderland voters have suddenly swung in favour of free movement of workersBig_G_NorthWales said:
Think the same applies to labour. The Sunderland result was astonishingSandyRentool said:To help us assess UKIP chances in Stoke, there are two by-elections coming up in Rotherham on Feb 2.
Two more failures like Sunderland last week and it points at defeat in the Potteries.
http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=8510&p=0&fsize=40kb&ftype=Results of Poll - Local Government Election on Thursday 6 May 2010.PDF0 -
I think you may have added too many noughts to that.Big_G_NorthWales said:How many know the Government has allocated in excess of 500,000 million for this improved GP service
* 500,000 million is half-a-trillion. That's 500,000,000,000, ie 5x10^11
* There are about 50,000 GPs in the UK, ie 5x 10^4
* So that's 10^7 each, that's £10 million each
So if your number is correct, the Government is planning to give each GP ten million quid each to work weekends.0 -
It's good to see private industry replicating what state industries managed 60 years ago. Can we expect to see Elon Musk walking in Neil Armstrong's footsteps in another 12 years?JosiasJessop said:SpaceX have completed their primary mission and delivered ten Iridium satellites into orbit, and have also completed their secondary mission in successfully landing the first stage.
Woohoo!
Now they just need to refly a landed first stage - hopefully next month on SES-10.
Only kidding. It is quite an achievement!0 -
ComRes = Tories! 0
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Note: funny how, in all the excitement about a local government ward, people seem to have banished Sleaford from their minds.HYUFD said:
The Tories will get some of the Remain and most of them will stick with Labour, there will be small leakage to the LDs at most. I was phoning in Copeland last week for 2 hours and got 1 LD the entire time. In both seats the LDs did worse than they did nationally at the general election and both areas also voted Leave, as was the case in Sleaford and Hykeham where they came thirdsurbiton said:
60% of the 69% will vote for Con, UKIP or Labour. 9% of the Remain [ mostly Labour ] + the 31% will vote LD.HYUFD said:
Stoke voted 69% Leave, the LDs have no chance there, if they won it Farron would be heading for number 10 with a landslide majority. For example the LDs got just 11% in Sleaford and Hykeham in an area which voted 62% Leave. It will be a Labour hold with a reduced majority. Copeland will be neck and neck between the Tories and Laboursurbiton said:
Copeland should be Labour with the right [ literally ] selection. That selection will not please me though.Pulpstar said:
Stoke is a gone-er as long as the Lib Dems stick to hard REMAIN. The opposition will be split three ways.
LD will get the Remain vote and the NOTA vote. They should not be ruled out in Copeland either.
If the Leave/Remain divide is really so very, very important, then why should the Lib Dems win in Copeland from a low base, when they accumulated 11% from a low base in Sleaford?0
