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Corbyn's big idea pic.twitter.com/zKdHBjKGTu
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Androids and robots are now labour's target voters0
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The Internet of things?0
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Jeeeeez Jezza.....
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Third!0
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Warms the cickles of your heart!0
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I am sure it's me after a long and exceptionally tedious day in court but what does the second one mean?0
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sorry "warms the cockles of your heart"0
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So Labour is targetting computer programmers as voters - in order to make the Working Class superfluous.
Sounds logical - if you have a death wish.0 -
Mindless drones.TheScreamingEagles said:Androids and robots are now labour's target voters
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Last thread: Trump wants Farage because he thinks rest of world does what America does and appoint political ambassadors. Trump will choose a mate for London, and this will be normal. We don't. Nor do any other western countries.0
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Jezza is a twat and disorganized. Keep going, mate.0
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Corbyn needs to start quoting from the Moody Blues as well. Chant the word Om.....
This garden universe vibrates complete
Some may get a sound so sweet
Vibrations reach on up to become light
And then through gamma, out of sight
Between the eyes and ears there lie
The sounds of color and the light of a sigh
And to hear the sun, what a thing to believe
But it's all around if we could but perceive
To know ultra violet, infra-red and X-rays
Beauty to find in so many ways
Two notes of the chord, that's our full scope
But to reach the chord is our life's hope
And to name the chord is important to some
So they give a word and the word is Om0 -
If it gives you any comfort, I'm still on the first.DavidL said:I am sure it's me after a long and exceptionally tedious day in court but what does the second one mean?
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Am I the only one who thinks The Internet of Things sounds like a term created for the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy?
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He's been reading about Musk, who people have been telling him is cool.DavidL said:I am sure it's me after a long and exceptionally tedious day in court but what does the second one mean?
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Ok so I have now googled cyber physical systems but I am none the wiser. Hands up who thinks Corbyn understands these things. Anybody? .... Anybody at all?0
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But how long before Trump endorses Corbyn? ('A great man with some truly great ideas. Visionary. Great, great man.') From the humiliation being poured on May, we surely can't rule it out.0
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Is the new message designed to be understood by anyone without subscriptions to the new statesman?0
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Corbynites have been having a go at me for highlighting "cyber physical systems" and "the internet of things".
I don't doubt these are real things. But when you have to forward me a link to a vague article explaining these often ambigious concepts, then your messaging is utterly crap.
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Friends of mine call the 'Internet of Things' the 'Internet of Tat'.timmo said:The Internet of things?
And if recent stories are true, the Internet of Insecure Tat.0 -
According to LabourList - 'Jeremy will commit Labour to backing the “innovators, entrepreneurs and investors” but add a reminder that businesses must “live up to their side of the deal” on issues such as workers’ rights and the payment of tax.
“Labour is setting out the path to a better alternative that’s about good intervention. In fact, it’s intervention for the common good,” he is due to say.'
Big words for a guy who lacks the support of 70% of his own PLP and can't fill his frontbench.0 -
"No taxation without representation" it ain't!0
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LOL. I needed a good laugh. Thanks.Luckyguy1983 said:
If it gives you any comfort, I'm still on the first.DavidL said:I am sure it's me after a long and exceptionally tedious day in court but what does the second one mean?
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"Internet of Things"Razedabode said:Corbynites have been having a go at me for highlighting "cyber physical systems" and "the internet of things".
I don't doubt these are real things. But when you have to forward me a link to a vague article explaining these often ambigious concepts, then your messaging is utterly crap
The ability for your fridge to accidentally order one hundred punnets of strawberries to be delivered next door, then run a Distributed Denial of Service on the US Department of Defence.0 -
If you're explaining, you're losing...Razedabode said:Corbynites have been having a go at me for highlighting "cyber physical systems" and "the internet of things".
I don't doubt these are real things. But when you have to forward me a link to a vague article explaining these often ambigious concepts, then your messaging is utterly crap.
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Labour takes the sea of tranquility. I can see it now.JosiasJessop said:
He's been reading about Musk, who people have been telling him is cool.DavidL said:I am sure it's me after a long and exceptionally tedious day in court but what does the second one mean?
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God we haven't had a good old fashioned let's laugh at Jeremy Corbyn thread for ages. I've missed it. Politics has been way too serious of late.0
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This is the other end of the spectrum (To Trump) where your social media presence has zero input from yourself. It drags down that one quality Corbyn actually had - authenticity.
Does anyone believe Corbyn himself is coming up with this guff ?0 -
It's a real thing. If you attach the right chips to everything (toasters, cows, your mother) and allow those chips to talk to each other, then you have a great deal of control (or more realistically you have enormous data). Real-life applications include:MarqueeMark said:Am I the only one who thinks The Internet of Things sounds like a term created for the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy?
* You can now switch your heating/boiler on/off remotely with your phone
* Your car can send out a large amount of data, enabling you to reduce your insurance
* The inventor of Candy Crush receives an enormous amount of data per second from all the people worldwide
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Yes but most of it is 3 pineapples in a row.viewcode said:
It's a real thing. If you attach the right chips to everything (toasters, cows, your mother) and allow those chips to talk to each other, then you have a great deal of control (or more realistically you have enormous data). Real-life applications include:MarqueeMark said:Am I the only one who thinks The Internet of Things sounds like a term created for the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy?
* You can now switch your heating/boiler on/off remotely with your phone
* Your car can send out a large amount of data, enabling you to reduce your insurance
* The inventor of Candy Crush receives an enormous amount of data per second from all the people worldwide0 -
He means attaching electrodes to Owen Thingy.timmo said:The Internet of things?
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Of course the downside of a massive amount of insecure things with wifi is you can hack into the chips and launch a DDoS attack
And that's already happened: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Dyn_cyberattack0 -
I FEEL what Jeremy is trying to say (as we've discussed here) is that he favours massive Government spending (as all Labour Governments do) but he wants this massive Government spending to go on stuff like autobahns, 3D printers and fibre optic broadband, and other useful things with supposedly lasting benefits rather than down the NHS' insatiable gullet or providing schools with shitty electronic whiteboards.
Which as a shift in policy I find a marginal improvement.
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And it's a turrrible night for the Clangers...DavidL said:
Labour takes the sea of tranquility. I can see it now.JosiasJessop said:
He's been reading about Musk, who people have been telling him is cool.DavidL said:I am sure it's me after a long and exceptionally tedious day in court but what does the second one mean?
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Whatever Labour does, it will never, ever be at the expense of the NHS. It will always be as well as.Luckyguy1983 said:I FEEL what Jeremy is trying to say (as we've discussed here) is that he favours massive Government spending (as all Labour Governments do) but he wants this massive Government spending to go on stuff like autobahns, 3D printers and fibre optic broadband, and other useful things with supposedly lasting benefits rather than down the NHS' insatiable gullet or providing schools with shitty electronic whiteboards.
Which as a shift in policy I find a marginal improvement.0 -
If my mother gets to talk to my toaster instead of me, that might sway my vote.....viewcode said:
It's a real thing. If you attach the right chips to everything (toasters, cows, your mother) and allow those chips to talk to each other, then you have a great deal of control (or more realistically you have enormous data). Real-life applications include:MarqueeMark said:Am I the only one who thinks The Internet of Things sounds like a term created for the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy?
* You can now switch your heating/boiler on/off remotely with your phone
* Your car can send out a large amount of data, enabling you to reduce your insurance
* The inventor of Candy Crush receives an enormous amount of data per second from all the people worldwide0 -
Really? What I take from the first one is that we are going to "invest" in business and manufacturing again but unlike all those other occasions where it was a bit of a disaster this time we are going to get it right. Because we are smart. Or something.Luckyguy1983 said:I FEEL what Jeremy is trying to say (as we've discussed here) is that he favours massive Government spending (as all Labour Governments do) but he wants this massive Government spending to go on stuff like autobahns, 3D printers and fibre optic broadband, and other useful things with supposedly lasting benefits rather than down the NHS' insatiable gullet or providing schools with shitty electronic whiteboards.
Which as a shift in policy I find a marginal improvement.0 -
Corbyn should be pushing for simulated virtual worlds. He can win there.0
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I am reminded of Brown in one of the 2010 town halls when in between berating an obviouly Labour leaning anesthesiologist about how she was "quite wrong" he started to rant about "digital manufacturing". I remember hoping that someone would ask him "what is digital manufacturing"?0
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Not entirely true. Examples of political appointees as UK ambassadors to the USA in the last 100 years include:Dixie said:Last thread: Trump wants Farage because he thinks rest of world does what America does and appoint political ambassadors. Trump will choose a mate for London, and this will be normal. We don't. Nor do any other western countries.
1918–1919: The Earl of Reading
1919–1920: Viscount Grey of Fallodon
1940–1946: Viscount Halifax
1977–1979: Peter Jay (son-in-law of the PM at the time)
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So, a 19th century agenda; 21st century problems.0
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White heat of the technological revolution - worked for Wilson.
Callaghan encouraged InMos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inmos
So maybe that's Corbyn's inspiration.0 -
That's about the sum of it.JosiasJessop said:
Friends of mine call the 'Internet of Things' the 'Internet of Tat'.timmo said:The Internet of things?
And if recent stories are true, the Internet of Insecure Tat.0 -
So the style of cyber warfare in the next severe winter will be everyone's heating systems being turned off, leaving the population to freeze?viewcode said:
It's a real thing. If you attach the right chips to everything (toasters, cows, your mother) and allow those chips to talk to each other, then you have a great deal of control (or more realistically you have enormous data). Real-life applications include:MarqueeMark said:Am I the only one who thinks The Internet of Things sounds like a term created for the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy?
* You can now switch your heating/boiler on/off remotely with your phone
* Your car can send out a large amount of data, enabling you to reduce your insurance
* The inventor of Candy Crush receives an enormous amount of data per second from all the people worldwide
Anything you can do like that, someone else can hack & destroy.
(edited to add: good evening, everyone)0 -
I've had a think about this and I've come to the conclusion that it's possible Donald Trump might (MIGHT) not be entirely rational?0
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Intervention - this is why Corbyn supported Brexit.0
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/15/steve_bong_corbyn_coup_inside_story/JosiasJessop said:
He's been reading about Musk, who people have been telling him is cool.DavidL said:I am sure it's me after a long and exceptionally tedious day in court but what does the second one mean?
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Caption should read: "I'll cut the NHS. Not the deficit."0
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Slightly on topic
I'm a bit annoyed by the British Gas advert saying you can add the equivalent of Hive for £9/month. Who can save £9/month by using a remote heating control?0 -
Re second Corbyn statement, sounds like he's just heard someone talk about IoT for the first time.0
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Hacking the Internet of Things is the latest cool sport for nerdsJosiasJessop said:
Friends of mine call the 'Internet of Things' the 'Internet of Tat'.timmo said:The Internet of things?
And if recent stories are true, the Internet of Insecure Tat.0 -
It's an appeal to the kind of people who describe themselves as "cyberpunks" - who think that being on the latest alternative to Facebook is being cutting edge "with computers"Razedabode said:Corbynites have been having a go at me for highlighting "cyber physical systems" and "the internet of things".
I don't doubt these are real things. But when you have to forward me a link to a vague article explaining these often ambigious concepts, then your messaging is utterly crap.
One can only hope they live long enough into the future to meet Rose Kolodny....0 -
Fantastic job Jeremy, keep up the good work. By the way, these would look fantastic on billboards in the midlands marginals.
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That's a lot of words. Doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.0
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Once again, in English.0
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Watching PMQs you should know, Corbyn doesn’t do pithy.MaxPB said:That's a lot of words. Doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.
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To sound like a tool on e-posters?TheKrakenAwakes said:Intervention - this is why Corbyn supported Brexit.
Well, it's a view.0 -
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha0
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Obvious. Making things with digits.pbr2013 said:I am reminded of Brown in one of the 2010 town halls when in between berating an obviouly Labour leaning anesthesiologist about how she was "quite wrong" he started to rant about "digital manufacturing". I remember hoping that someone would ask him "what is digital manufacturing"?
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Just as Jez rambles about technology, the GSMA have chosen Shanghai as their next destination for MWC:
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161122005072/en/GSMA-Launches-Mobile-World-Congress-Shanghai-2017
Barcelona will still go ahead, but I get the feeling its days are numbered, it's at the wrong time of year for Samsung, HTC, Sony and all of the Chinese brands, smartphone sales are still booming in Asia while they have plateaued in Europe and we don't really have a Europe based smartphone manufacturer now that Sony Ericsson and Nokia no longer exist (they used to hold 60% market share between them at one point).0 -
Is IOS advising Corbyn?0
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I've just realised that 'cyber physical systems' might mean teledildonics.
If you don't want to sleep, imagine Corbyn, Abbott and teledildonics. 0 -
I thought making digits. But I couldn't work out if he meant ones and zeros or fingers and toes. I remain unenlightened.DavidL said:
Obvious. Making things with digits.pbr2013 said:I am reminded of Brown in one of the 2010 town halls when in between berating an obviouly Labour leaning anesthesiologist about how she was "quite wrong" he started to rant about "digital manufacturing". I remember hoping that someone would ask him "what is digital manufacturing"?
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I hesitate to ask.JosiasJessop said:I've just realised that 'cyber physical systems' might mean teledildonics.
If you don't want to sleep, imagine Corbyn, Abbott and teledildonics.0 -
Are we sure this isn't a Turing test gone wrong ?0
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If Corbyn went one step further and set some sort of an actual goal, rather than just rhetoric I'd have some sympathy with his position. Big wars and the like, or perhaps more obviously the US space programme sort of suggest that some sort of massive commitment of a state to some goal or other might have some benefits.
HS2 doesn't cut it, but a permanent GB community on Mars would
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I made some green leds with vibration sensors and photo diode things for my garden - I put in quite a lot of them a few years ago. They had a simple ripple effect that, in the dusk, made it look as though you were walking on water. I did think to hang some in the air, I am surrounded by trees, with a flight of swallows effects but I thought it would make me look too eccentric.0
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A Mr Miliband from North London asks "will it work with three kitchens?"tlg86 said:
It connects everything from urban transport to medical devices to household devices. So, to use a completely ridiculous example, were someone to have two kitchens they'll be able to control both fridges from the same mobile phone.timmo said:The Internet of things?
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Will it work on my £6.99 Tesco Value toaster? Or my Economy 7 storage heaters?tlg86 said:
It connects everything from urban transport to medical devices to household devices. So, to use a completely ridiculous example, were someone to have two kitchens they'll be able to control both fridges from the same mobile phone.timmo said:The Internet of things?
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I was told these home controls don't work for all companies, so if you get an EDF smart meter , it ONLY works for EDF.. Therefore you are stuck or in a lot of aggro if you want to switch. I know SFA about HIVE, but I would similarly avoid till its got a proven track record. Its the same principle as never buy a "new" car model from a manufacturer. WAIT 2 yrs till all the bugs have been ironed out....0
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They are doing one in San Francisco too, in September.MaxPB said:Just as Jez rambles about technology, the GSMA have chosen Shanghai as their next destination for MWC:
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161122005072/en/GSMA-Launches-Mobile-World-Congress-Shanghai-2017
Barcelona will still go ahead, but I get the feeling its days are numbered, it's at the wrong time of year for Samsung, HTC, Sony and all of the Chinese brands, smartphone sales are still booming in Asia while they have plateaued in Europe and we don't really have a Europe based smartphone manufacturer now that Sony Ericsson and Nokia no longer exist (they used to hold 60% market share between them at one point).
We tried to get a deal done with the Spanish government and the Barcelona MWC people. They were not exactly entrepreneurial or far-sighted - we had so many painful meetings before just giving up. I am not surprised GSMA are sniffing around elsewhere, though I think they are contracted to Barcelona for a few more years.
All the European companies are now licensors to the manufacturers. You should watch out for this Ericsson spin-out:
http://avanci.com/
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That may be part of the problem. I spent years struggling to understand the vocabulary used by left-wing people. Perhaps, in a similar way, Mr Corbyn's advisers know what they mean and don't realise that non-left-wing people can't understand them. (Assuming that people who do speak left-wing lingo can understand it, that is.)Mortimer said:Is the new message designed to be understood by anyone without subscriptions to the new statesman?
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Word of the day.JosiasJessop said:I've just realised that 'cyber physical systems' might mean teledildonics.
If you don't want to sleep, imagine Corbyn, Abbott and teledildonics.0 -
Is there a spoof site available to customise your own version of this poster yet?0
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I think someone did one on one of today's earlier threads.Casino_Royale said:Is there a spoof site available to customise your own version of this poster yet?
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There's no need to go that far. It might be best to try a policy that's been used, but for some reason dropped, in the past. One where the negatives have been thoroughly addressed so that they can be spun against. A policy that will be popular amongst young and old, the pleb and the gentrified.Omnium said:If Corbyn went one step further and set some sort of an actual goal, rather than just rhetoric I'd have some sympathy with his position. Big wars and the like, or perhaps more obviously the US space programme sort of suggest that some sort of massive commitment of a state to some goal or other might have some benefits.
HS2 doesn't cut it, but a permanent GB community on Mars would
Yes, it's time to bring back Free Owls For all!0 -
I always thought digits were what we called fingers in the analogue age. Maybe I am missing something.pbr2013 said:
I thought making digits. But I couldn't work out if he meant ones and zeros or fingers and toes. I remain unenlightened.DavidL said:
Obvious. Making things with digits.pbr2013 said:I am reminded of Brown in one of the 2010 town halls when in between berating an obviouly Labour leaning anesthesiologist about how she was "quite wrong" he started to rant about "digital manufacturing". I remember hoping that someone would ask him "what is digital manufacturing"?
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So the Internet of Things means that you can pre-shag the missus while still on the train? Bona!MarqueeMark said:
Word of the day.JosiasJessop said:I've just realised that 'cyber physical systems' might mean teledildonics.
If you don't want to sleep, imagine Corbyn, Abbott and teledildonics.0 -
Ok, lets compromise. Free Robot Owls For all!JosiasJessop said:
There's no need to go that far. It might be best to try a policy that's been used, but for some reason dropped, in the past. One where the negatives have been thoroughly addressed so that they can be spun against. A policy that will be popular amongst young and old, the pleb and the gentrified.Omnium said:If Corbyn went one step further and set some sort of an actual goal, rather than just rhetoric I'd have some sympathy with his position. Big wars and the like, or perhaps more obviously the US space programme sort of suggest that some sort of massive commitment of a state to some goal or other might have some benefits.
HS2 doesn't cut it, but a permanent GB community on Mars would
Yes, it's time to bring back Free Owls For all!0 -
White heat of technology, Labour isn't working, things can only get better ( to music ), take back control, make America great again: snappy, simple, rhythmic, these we can remember. This drivel makes the Ed Stone look like Saatchi and Saatchi at their laser focussed best.
To be fair though if you are going to be rightly laughed at for trying to garner votes for "the Internet of things", best test it out on a wet Wednesday in November miles away from an election and learn from it. I hope Jezza's team don't of course and the track record is about on par with Crewe Alexandra's in the Champions' League, but it will all matter nought if a zinger comes out in early April 2020, from the same bunch bombarded by hoots of derision now.0 -
Vote for me I'll replace your jobs with robots....a real vote winner I'm sure....TheScreamingEagles said:Androids and robots are now labour's target voters
On a serious note If Corbyn wants to win he has to do with much better language than that, and will need a better vision aswell not everybody out of work can be retrained as computer programmers. The question is what are the jobs non academic men (mostly, as women will find plenty of jobs caring for the elderly) going to do as more and more good paying jobs either require degrees or become redundant?
If he is able to persuade enough voters he has the answer to terrible employment rights/practices, proposes to controll immigration in any meaningful way AND is able to articulate an answer and vision for the above, I seriously think he can win.....Don't laugh..I really mean it...
But he seems to think ANY talk of controllng migration is just too abhorent so he won't.0 -
They are all over Twitter:Casino_Royale said:Is there a spoof site available to customise your own version of this poster yet?
https://twitter.com/thedaillew/status/800781875107266560
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Numbers as well lawyer boy.DavidL said:
I always thought digits were what we called fingers in the analogue age. Maybe I am missing something.pbr2013 said:
I thought making digits. But I couldn't work out if he meant ones and zeros or fingers and toes. I remain unenlightened.DavidL said:
Obvious. Making things with digits.pbr2013 said:I am reminded of Brown in one of the 2010 town halls when in between berating an obviouly Labour leaning anesthesiologist about how she was "quite wrong" he started to rant about "digital manufacturing". I remember hoping that someone would ask him "what is digital manufacturing"?
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@TSE - yebbut I don't know how to do that!0
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Perhaps these statements were similarly sent in from Gladys in Caerphilly and Martin from Tyne and Wear.SimonStClare said:
Watching PMQs you should know, Corbyn doesn’t do pithy.MaxPB said:That's a lot of words. Doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.
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It's very simple David, and the meaning is nothing short of earth-shattering.DavidL said:I am sure it's me after a long and exceptionally tedious day in court but what does the second one mean?
It means that - however improbable this may seem - Milne and Corbyn are actually as stupid as they look.0 -
That one actually makes sense.SouthamObserver said:
They are all over Twitter:Casino_Royale said:Is there a spoof site available to customise your own version of this poster yet?
https://twitter.com/thedaillew/status/8007818751072665600 -
I was really enjoying my dinner until I read that.JosiasJessop said:I've just realised that 'cyber physical systems' might mean teledildonics.
If you don't want to sleep, imagine Corbyn, Abbott and teledildonics.
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Speaking of how wonderful completed are, vote counts in Wisconsin
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Well, it took Trump three vital states a couple of weeks back.nunu said:
Vote for me I'll replace your jobs with robots....a real vote winner I'm sure....TheScreamingEagles said:Androids and robots are now labour's target voters
Corbyn is so dense he may not have realised that it was Hilary's slogan...0 -
LOOOOL at Labour0
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Cyber physical systems ought to be chiselled onto a 10 foot tall piece of limestone.0
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I daresay the answer to unemployment lies in a citizen's income, so that no-one actually needs to work in order to live at a basic level.nunu said:
Vote for me I'll replace your jobs with robots....a real vote winner I'm sure....TheScreamingEagles said:Androids and robots are now labour's target voters
On a serious note If Corbyn wants to win he has to do with much better language than that, and will need a better vision aswell not everybody out of work can be retrained as computer programmers. The question is what are the jobs non academic men (mostly, as women will find plenty of jobs caring for the elderly) going to do as more and more good paying jobs either require degrees or become redundant?
If he is able to persuade enough voters he has the answer to terrible employment rights/practices, proposes to controll immigration in any meaningful way AND is able to articulate an answer and vision for the above, I seriously think he can win.....Don't laugh..I really mean it...
But he seems to think ANY talk of controllng migration is just too abhorent so he won't.
Many people seem to live fulfilled lives by spending most of their time gaming or similar, so whatever career paths remain open or open up in future will only be pursued by those who really want to follow them.
And if the money the country needs to live on can be earned by robots, why not let them do it?0 -
In all fairness, it's trite pablum, yes, but it is the sort of thing politicians say all the time, albeit not usually tweeted out with a picture of their leader looking all meaningful.0
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It also means that her dildo is transmitting usage patterns back to its manufacturer for them to build up a marketing database - including ambient temperature and intensity settings.pbr2013 said:
So the Internet of Things means that you can pre-shag the missus while still on the train? Bona!MarqueeMark said:
Word of the day.JosiasJessop said:I've just realised that 'cyber physical systems' might mean teledildonics.
If you don't want to sleep, imagine Corbyn, Abbott and teledildonics.
This already happens. Nice.0 -
