Yeah, someone has already bagged him. 81, apparently. A good pick by that reader-player as Bamber's obviously gone gaga. Sad.
I don't know Geoff, he appears to have plenty of critical faculty on a reading of that letter.
You think so? Looks like bullet point speaking points that he's regurgitated from a list.
There's no argument or point or direction to it. Nobody will be educated or enlightened as a result of reading it, which would be an indication of "critical faculty".
Yeah, someone has already bagged him. 81, apparently. A good pick by that reader-player as Bamber's obviously gone gaga. Sad.
I don't know Geoff, he appears to have plenty of critical faculty on a reading of that letter.
You think so? Looks like bullet point speaking points that he's regurgitated from a list.
There's no argument or point or direction to it. Nobody will be educated or enlightened as a result of reading it, which would be an indication of "critical faculty".
I guess we will have to disagree on this one.
Plenty of people who are less engaged with politics than the readership of pb.com will be interested in his views. He exposes the vanity of Goldsmith's actions and the contradictions in his stances quite nicely.
I don't expect you to like it, but he certainly doesn't come across as gaga.
Yeah, someone has already bagged him. 81, apparently. A good pick by that reader-player as Bamber's obviously gone gaga. Sad.
I don't know Geoff, he appears to have plenty of critical faculty on a reading of that letter.
You think so? Looks like bullet point speaking points that he's regurgitated from a list.
There's no argument or point or direction to it. Nobody will be educated or enlightened as a result of reading it, which would be an indication of "critical faculty".
I guess we will have to disagree on this one.
Plenty of people who are less engaged with politics than the readership of pb.com will be interested in his views. He exposes the vanity of Goldsmith's actions and the contradictions in his stances quite nicely.
I don't expect you to like it, but he certainly doesn't come across as gaga.
It's great. Clearly not everyone can work on the intellectual plane occupied by GeoffM.
If the EU thinks it will damage the UK, it may discover that two can play at that game. As many others have discovered to their cost when threatening these islands in the past.
I have no doubt in my mind which one will come out the victor in the long term.
I want the UK to prosper, whether we're in the EU or out of it, but the level of delusion among Brexiters is quite sad. Britain couldn't get a good deal out of the EU while we were members, so how and why should we get a good deal when we leave? Plus the fact that we'll be a nation of 60 million bargaining with a bloc of 450 million. Faites-vous les maths.
The EU is not seeking to damage the UK, or engage in some kind of playgound battle, and now that we're leaving, creating even more animosity and jingoism on the part of Daily Mail readers is pointless. Let's try a bit of realism: leaving the EU is not going to be easy, and most people will notice very little if any benefit from the change in any way.
Yeah, someone has already bagged him. 81, apparently. A good pick by that reader-player as Bamber's obviously gone gaga. Sad.
I don't know Geoff, he appears to have plenty of critical faculty on a reading of that letter.
You think so? Looks like bullet point speaking points that he's regurgitated from a list.
There's no argument or point or direction to it. Nobody will be educated or enlightened as a result of reading it, which would be an indication of "critical faculty".
I guess we will have to disagree on this one.
Plenty of people who are less engaged with politics than the readership of pb.com will be interested in his views. He exposes the vanity of Goldsmith's actions and the contradictions in his stances quite nicely.
I don't expect you to like it, but he certainly doesn't come across as gaga.
I know what you mean, and yes it does come across like a condensed Focus leaflet for the more attention span-challenged of the non-PB huddled masses.
I hope someone didn't stick it under his nose in the old folks home and say "sign this, grandpa, it's about the weekly bingo night".
If the EU thinks it will damage the UK, it may discover that two can play at that game. As many others have discovered to their cost when threatening these islands in the past.
I have no doubt in my mind which one will come out the victor in the long term.
I want the UK to prosper, whether we're in the EU or out of it, but the level of delusion among Brexiters is quite sad. Britain couldn't get a good deal out of the EU while we were members, so how and why should we get a good deal when we leave? Plus the fact that we'll be a nation of 60 million bargaining with a bloc of 450 million. Faites-vous les maths.
The EU is not seeking to damage the UK, or engage in some kind of playgound battle, and now that we're leaving, creating even more animosity and jingoism on the part of Daily Mail readers is pointless. Let's try a bit of realism: leaving the EU is not going to be easy, and most people will notice very little if any benefit from the change in any way.
I am reminded of Brown in one of the 2010 town halls when in between berating an obviouly Labour leaning anesthesiologist about how she was "quite wrong" he started to rant about "digital manufacturing". I remember hoping that someone would ask him "what is digital manufacturing"?
Am I the only one who thinks The Internet of Things sounds like a term created for the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy?
It's a real thing. If you attach the right chips to everything (toasters, cows, your mother) and allow those chips to talk to each other, then you have a great deal of control (or more realistically you have enormous data). Real-life applications include:
* You can now switch your heating/boiler on/off remotely with your phone * Your car can send out a large amount of data, enabling you to reduce your insurance * The inventor of Candy Crush receives an enormous amount of data per second from all the people worldwide
So the style of cyber warfare in the next severe winter will be everyone's heating systems being turned off, leaving the population to freeze?
Anything you can do like that, someone else can hack & destroy.
(edited to add: good evening, everyone)
Unsarcastically: yes. Which is why I posted a link to the Dyn article: it's already here, it's already a problem, and I don't know what the solution is.
On a serious note - the way to deal with internet-of-things hacking is to mandate security - on the basis that providing zillions of hosts for DDoS is affecting society as a whole.
It is pretty trivial to create such systems with built in 1024bit crypto to secure and sign all the communications between the "things", and have any external web interface properly hardened. And turned off by default.
Good point, but who is going to bell the cat? The best the UK government can do is control the things in the UK, but who controls the ones outside the UK? Is there/will there be a Great Firewall of Britain?
The UK is still in the EU for the time being, this makes much more sense as an EU standard. It'll generally make more sense to make your stuff properly rather than maintain two versions, one for the EU and one for the rest of the world.
If it leaves the UK can just adopt the EU standard, as it will over pretty much everything else.
If the EU thinks it will damage the UK, it may discover that two can play at that game. As many others have discovered to their cost when threatening these islands in the past.
I have no doubt in my mind which one will come out the victor in the long term.
I want the UK to prosper, whether we're in the EU or out of it, but the level of delusion among Brexiters is quite sad. Britain couldn't get a good deal out of the EU while we were members, so how and why should we get a good deal when we leave? Plus the fact that we'll be a nation of 60 million bargaining with a bloc of 450 million. Faites-vous les maths.
The EU is not seeking to damage the UK, or engage in some kind of playgound battle, and now that we're leaving, creating even more animosity and jingoism on the part of Daily Mail readers is pointless. Let's try a bit of realism: leaving the EU is not going to be easy, and most people will notice very little if any benefit from the change in any way.
So they gave us a good kicking when we were inside and will give us a good kicking for leaving so we should stick to the internal kicking because Daily Mail.
If there are 2 million job losses in the UK, send 2 million EU workers home. It is what Germany did to Turkish workers.
That would be 2/3 of all EU citizens in the UK, not all of whom could be considered by any stretch of the imagination to be Gastarbeiter. Your position is just a nationalistic fantasy.
The Internet of Things is like the canal mania of the 1790s, or the Victorian steam-powered absurdities, or the dot-com lunacies like pets.com. In each case there was a new technology which was genuinely useful, but people got so enthusiastic about it that they started applying it to things for which it was completely useless or economically unsound.
So, there certainly are some useful Internet of Things applications: security alarms, home heating controls that you can switch on from anywhere (but you really don't need the excessive complexity being built in to some of the offerings), remotely-readable electricity meters, and no doubt some we haven't thought of.
And there are a whole lot more which are bonkers and which will go down into the same dustbin of history as the absurdities of the Victorian steam gadgets. You really, really don't need an internet-connected toaster, or an internet-connected fridge, or an internet-connected music system that you can switch on from Hawaii.
Yeah, someone has already bagged him. 81, apparently. A good pick by that reader-player as Bamber's obviously gone gaga. Sad.
I don't know Geoff, he appears to have plenty of critical faculty on a reading of that letter.
You think so? Looks like bullet point speaking points that he's regurgitated from a list.
There's no argument or point or direction to it. Nobody will be educated or enlightened as a result of reading it, which would be an indication of "critical faculty".
I guess we will have to disagree on this one.
Mr Gascoigne implies Zac Goldsmith is disingenuous and not at all the principled politician he claims to be. I don't think I agree with that implication, but Mr Gascoigne makes a reasonable argument.
Labour missed a trick, they should have given EU migrants the vote as they did to commonwealth migrants in 1948. But they didn't - I believe 2 million job losses is the accepted figure if the EU do as much damage as they can, that will 4 million voters affected, so do you think there will be a party that will care about EU migrants?
Labour missed a trick, they should have given EU migrants the vote as they did to commonwealth migrants in 1948. But they didn't - I believe 2 million job losses is the accepted figure if the EU do as much damage as they can, that will 4 million voters affected, so do you think there will be a party that will care about EU migrants?
Why do you assume the job losses will fall on EU citizens? They are likely to be disproportionately safe.
Labour missed a trick, they should have given EU migrants the vote as they did to commonwealth migrants in 1948. But they didn't - I believe 2 million job losses is the accepted figure if the EU do as much damage as they can, that will 4 million voters affected, so do you think there will be a party that will care about EU migrants?
Two million deportations is quite a logistical undertaking. 10 trains a day each carrying 1000 people back to Europe for 200 days. Is that your preferred solution? Who would run the deportation centres?
The Internet of Things is like the canal mania of the 1790s, or the Victorian steam-powered absurdities, or the dot-com lunacies like pets.com. In each case there was a new technology which was genuinely useful, but people got so enthusiastic about it that they started applying it to things for which it was completely useless or economically unsound.
So, there certainly are some useful Internet of Things applications: security alarms, home heating controls that you can switch on from anywhere (but you really don't need the excessive complexity being built in to some of the offerings), remotely-readable electricity meters, and no doubt some we haven't thought of.
And there are a whole lot more which are bonkers and which will go down into the same dustbin of history as the absurdities of the Victorian steam gadgets. You really, really don't need an internet-connected toaster, or an internet-connected fridge, or an internet-connected music system that you can switch on from Hawaii.
I've had connected music systems for over 10 years at home. It's endless fun adding a couple of total unconnected tracks to someone else play list.
I've had connected music systems for over 10 years at home. It's endless fun adding a couple of total unconnected tracks to someone else play list.
The amusing thing is that, far from saving time, many of the population have become full-time sysadmin slaves, forever upgrading their phones, downloading security updates, and battling with call-centres in India to find out why their service has suddenly stopped (usually it's because the service provider has 'upgraded to a new platform').
I've had connected music systems for over 10 years at home. It's endless fun adding a couple of total unconnected tracks to someone else play list.
The amusing thing is that, far from saving time, many of the population have become full-time sysadmin slaves, forever upgrading their phones, downloading security updates, and battling with call-centres in India to find out why their service has suddenly stopped (usually it's because the service provider has 'upgraded to a new platform').
Don't know anyone who does that, maybe is just you Richard?
Don't know anyone who does that, maybe is just you Richard?
Certainly not me! I've got too much experience in IT to ever want to update software which is working. But we had a great example of the problem Chez Nabavi today: my wife's business email suddenly stopped working, entirely because some idiots at a company called Gradwell had 'upgraded' their systems.
I've had connected music systems for over 10 years at home. It's endless fun adding a couple of total unconnected tracks to someone else play list.
The amusing thing is that, far from saving time, many of the population have become full-time sysadmin slaves, forever upgrading their phones, downloading security updates, and battling with call-centres in India to find out why their service has suddenly stopped (usually it's because the service provider has 'upgraded to a new platform').
WiFi music is pretty great though. Connects my Spotify playlist to the Sonos. It's really useful and intuitive.
I've had connected music systems for over 10 years at home. It's endless fun adding a couple of total unconnected tracks to someone else play list.
The amusing thing is that, far from saving time, many of the population have become full-time sysadmin slaves, forever upgrading their phones, downloading security updates, and battling with call-centres in India to find out why their service has suddenly stopped (usually it's because the service provider has 'upgraded to a new platform').
WiFi music is pretty great though. Connects my Spotify playlist to the Sonos. It's really useful and intuitive.
Sure, but you don't need to control it remotely. Big difference.
Also, CDs are actually rather good - and likely to have a 50-year lifetime at least. I bet your Spotify playlist will vanish into the ether in that timescale.
Don't know anyone who does that, maybe is just you Richard?
Certainly not me! I've got too much experience in IT to ever want to update software which is working. But we had a great example of the problem Chez Nabavi today: my wife's business email suddenly stopped working, entirely because some idiots at a company called Gradwell had 'upgraded' their systems.
The Sinclair QL really was ahead of its time, but you should move on now.
I've had connected music systems for over 10 years at home. It's endless fun adding a couple of total unconnected tracks to someone else play list.
The amusing thing is that, far from saving time, many of the population have become full-time sysadmin slaves, forever upgrading their phones, downloading security updates, and battling with call-centres in India to find out why their service has suddenly stopped (usually it's because the service provider has 'upgraded to a new platform').
WiFi music is pretty great though. Connects my Spotify playlist to the Sonos. It's really useful and intuitive.
Sure, but you don't need to control it remotely. Big difference.
Also, CDs are actually rather good - and likely to have a 50-year lifetime at least. I bet your Spotify playlist will vanish into the ether in that timescale.
I've had connected music systems for over 10 years at home. It's endless fun adding a couple of total unconnected tracks to someone else play list.
The amusing thing is that, far from saving time, many of the population have become full-time sysadmin slaves, forever upgrading their phones, downloading security updates, and battling with call-centres in India to find out why their service has suddenly stopped (usually it's because the service provider has 'upgraded to a new platform').
WiFi music is pretty great though. Connects my Spotify playlist to the Sonos. It's really useful and intuitive.
Sure, but you don't need to control it remotely. Big difference.
No of course, but in my flat it used to know when I connected to the home WiFi and transfer the audio from my phone to the Sonos.
Also, CDs are actually rather good - and likely to have a 50-year lifetime at least. I bet your Spotify playlist will vanish into the ether in that timescale.
In a world of overvalued real estate, setting aside space in your home to store digital media which is available over the air is either perverse or a decadent luxury.
Don't know anyone who does that, maybe is just you Richard?
Certainly not me! I've got too much experience in IT to ever want to update software which is working. But we had a great example of the problem Chez Nabavi today: my wife's business email suddenly stopped working, entirely because some idiots at a company called Gradwell had 'upgraded' their systems.
The Sinclair QL really was ahead of its time, but you should move on now.
You should move when it's sensible to do so.
There's a very good reason why banks and telecoms systems are still based on old technology.
Seriously, the internet is worryingly unreliable. I don't mean the infrastructure, although even that is nothing like as reliable as the telephone system. I mean the whole thing we are beginning to rely on absolutely: DNS servers, email, cloud-based applications, etc. It's not so much the technology itself, but the fact that some idiot at an ISP can screw up your DNS records at the click of a mouse, or the cloud-based company can vanish with all your data, and so on.
Don't know anyone who does that, maybe is just you Richard?
Certainly not me! I've got too much experience in IT to ever want to update software which is working. But we had a great example of the problem Chez Nabavi today: my wife's business email suddenly stopped working, entirely because some idiots at a company called Gradwell had 'upgraded' their systems.
The Sinclair QL really was ahead of its time, but you should move on now.
You should move when it's sensible to do so.
There's a very good reason why banks and telecoms systems are still based on old technology.
Seriously, the internet is worryingly unreliable. I don't mean the infrastructure, although even that is nothing like as reliable as the telephone system. I mean the whole thing we are beginning to rely on absolutely: DNS servers, email, cloud-based applications, etc. It's not so much the technology itself, but the fact that some idiot at an ISP can screw up your DNS records at the click of a mouse, or the cloud-based company can vanish with all your data, and so on.
Just wasted two hours due to trains between Sheffield and the East Midlands being cancelled because of flooding. No information on whether tickets would be valid on other services, so had to spend more money on extra tickets to avoid being fined.
Good news if indeed the government is tomorrow to ban lettings agents from levying renewal and other spurious paperwork fees from tenants. As Scotland did a few years back, I believe.
Don't know anyone who does that, maybe is just you Richard?
Certainly not me! I've got too much experience in IT to ever want to update software which is working. But we had a great example of the problem Chez Nabavi today: my wife's business email suddenly stopped working, entirely because some idiots at a company called Gradwell had 'upgraded' their systems.
The Sinclair QL really was ahead of its time, but you should move on now.
I still use the Sinclair QL. I won't hear a word spoken against it. It's a brilliant computer.
Don't know anyone who does that, maybe is just you Richard?
Certainly not me! I've got too much experience in IT to ever want to update software which is working. But we had a great example of the problem Chez Nabavi today: my wife's business email suddenly stopped working, entirely because some idiots at a company called Gradwell had 'upgraded' their systems.
The Sinclair QL really was ahead of its time, but you should move on now.
I still use the Sinclair QL. I won't hear a word spoken against it. It's a brilliant computer.
Don't know anyone who does that, maybe is just you Richard?
Certainly not me! I've got too much experience in IT to ever want to update software which is working. But we had a great example of the problem Chez Nabavi today: my wife's business email suddenly stopped working, entirely because some idiots at a company called Gradwell had 'upgraded' their systems.
The Sinclair QL really was ahead of its time, but you should move on now.
I still use the Sinclair QL. I won't hear a word spoken against it. It's a brilliant computer.
What do you use it for?
Word processing, databasing, games. All very retro of course.
Don't know anyone who does that, maybe is just you Richard?
Certainly not me! I've got too much experience in IT to ever want to update software which is working. But we had a great example of the problem Chez Nabavi today: my wife's business email suddenly stopped working, entirely because some idiots at a company called Gradwell had 'upgraded' their systems.
The Sinclair QL really was ahead of its time, but you should move on now.
I still use the Sinclair QL. I won't hear a word spoken against it. It's a brilliant computer.
What do you use it for?
Word processing, databasing, games. All very retro of course.
Don't know anyone who does that, maybe is just you Richard?
Certainly not me! I've got too much experience in IT to ever want to update software which is working. But we had a great example of the problem Chez Nabavi today: my wife's business email suddenly stopped working, entirely because some idiots at a company called Gradwell had 'upgraded' their systems.
The Sinclair QL really was ahead of its time, but you should move on now.
You should move when it's sensible to do so.
There's a very good reason why banks and telecoms systems are still based on old technology.
Seriously, the internet is worryingly unreliable. I don't mean the infrastructure, although even that is nothing like as reliable as the telephone system. I mean the whole thing we are beginning to rely on absolutely: DNS servers, email, cloud-based applications, etc. It's not so much the technology itself, but the fact that some idiot at an ISP can screw up your DNS records at the click of a mouse, or the cloud-based company can vanish with all your data, and so on.
It will never catch on.
I keep nothing on the Cloud. I also like the programs to be on my computer.
clinton not spending in Michigan in wisconsin? Even after Bernie's shock win in Michigan which had him 20% behind in the polls? ffs, she deserved to lose.
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There's no argument or point or direction to it. Nobody will be educated or enlightened as a result of reading it, which would be an indication of "critical faculty".
I guess we will have to disagree on this one.
I don't expect you to like it, but he certainly doesn't come across as gaga.
The EU is not seeking to damage the UK, or engage in some kind of playgound battle, and now that we're leaving, creating even more animosity and jingoism on the part of Daily Mail readers is pointless. Let's try a bit of realism: leaving the EU is not going to be easy, and most people will notice very little if any benefit from the change in any way.
I hope someone didn't stick it under his nose in the old folks home and say "sign this, grandpa, it's about the weekly bingo night".
If it leaves the UK can just adopt the EU standard, as it will over pretty much everything else.
Escaping *is* the good deal.
So, there certainly are some useful Internet of Things applications: security alarms, home heating controls that you can switch on from anywhere (but you really don't need the excessive complexity being built in to some of the offerings), remotely-readable electricity meters, and no doubt some we haven't thought of.
And there are a whole lot more which are bonkers and which will go down into the same dustbin of history as the absurdities of the Victorian steam gadgets. You really, really don't need an internet-connected toaster, or an internet-connected fridge, or an internet-connected music system that you can switch on from Hawaii.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/22/theresa-may-would-missing-trick-not-make-donald-trump-next-man/
Clearly starting to move from 'Fight' to 'Win'.
Looking forward to 'outraged of pb' funding the Farage Statue.
Also, CDs are actually rather good - and likely to have a 50-year lifetime at least. I bet your Spotify playlist will vanish into the ether in that timescale.
There's a very good reason why banks and telecoms systems are still based on old technology.
Seriously, the internet is worryingly unreliable. I don't mean the infrastructure, although even that is nothing like as reliable as the telephone system. I mean the whole thing we are beginning to rely on absolutely: DNS servers, email, cloud-based applications, etc. It's not so much the technology itself, but the fact that some idiot at an ISP can screw up your DNS records at the click of a mouse, or the cloud-based company can vanish with all your data, and so on.
http://terdina.net/ql/q-emulator.html
https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/801214159266414592
California & Nebraska
My first exhibit is Greece - I have others
Democrats still in the Denial state.