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It's certainly not going to happen with a majority of 12.Gardenwalker said:
I think you would like this to happen.MaxPB said:
This will be the price of Brexit. Our system of in-work benefits will be complete axed.Indigo said:
Yes, but that wont happen. The amount of howling from the opposition benches would be too great, 7 Tories would cave and the bill would be lost.MaxPB said:
They will make a huge difference. When an Eastern European "worker" can stay with a friend for 90 says, register as self employed afterwards, claim tax credits and housing benefits it creates a huge attractive force. Removing that system of tax credits and housing benefits, especially for the self employed, will lower the numbers quite significantly.Indigo said:
Benefit rights will make no difference to numbers, the numbers will keep on climbing, and the Kippers (should they manage not to select that liability Kassam) will be heading toward 20% amongst cries of betrayal.TGOHF said:
"staying in single market" and "Freedom of movement" are yesterdays concepts.Indigo said:
May needs to worry less about the BrExiteers and worry more about the voters. If she stays in the single market it will require Freedom of Movement in all but name, just needing an (easy to obtain) job offer is not going to cut the mustard, and the Tory majority is toast at the next opportunity, she might even be forced into a coalition with the kippers to get anything doneTheScreamingEagles said:Most interesting theory about the Nissan 'deal' and why the government isn't making it public.
Nissan are staying because they've been told we're staying in the single market and the customs union.
Mrs May will then announce a plethora of companies who will only stay on if we stay in both, and force the hard Brexiteers to be associated with an economic disaster.
We want access to the single market and nobody wants tariffs.
The price for the Uk for this will be payments - probably tapered - and the EU will sacrifice some of the benefit rights of low skilled workers in the Uk for this.
win-win.
I don't think it will happen, because politics.0 -
Permission was given to bail out the banks on the basis it was temporary. See the faffing about with Williams and Glynn and generally the government trying to sell off the last vestiges of RBS.david_herdson said:
Same principle. The Commission's been regulating intra-EEC/EU trade since the 1950s. Governments can nationalise (or part-own) firms as they see fit as long as they follow the international rules. Banks would be a more recent example as far as the UK goes.TheWhiteRabbit said:
Not since the early eighties!david_herdson said:
Same way as the UK govt used to own British Leyland, I'd imagine. Or still does own or operate any number of other activities which are carried on elsewhere by private businesses.TheWhiteRabbit said:
How on Earth are the French allowed to own 20% of an enormous car giant without state aid?williamglenn said:
Nissan is 43.5% owned by Renault which is 20% owned by the French government...Malmesbury said:Thinking about it more - the information is most likely to have come from the EU direct to Nissan. That way they would have been able to be certain that what the UK is talking about matches (or is an achievable distance from) what the EU is talking about.
The answer is the Commission actually approved this crap.0 -
The Bangladesh batting has been reminiscent of England 1970s/80s batting. Usually woeful but with some exceptions notable for their rarity.DavidL said:
The rate of fall of wickets usually accelerates though as the pitch deteriorates. I will be up about 7.30 tomorrow. Hope England are still batting. Root or Stokes or Bairstow have to match Tamim. Going to be hard. How much of a lead would England need to be confident? Maybe 75?weejonnie said:
If it is the same rate then it will go into the 4th day - with England's last pair at the wicket.DavidL said:50-3. What horrors are we going to wake up to tomorrow morning?
13 wickets on the first day. Surely this match is going to finish inside 3 days?
(Of course if it does end on the third day and Bangladesh win by e.g. 2 runs, they will be able to boast that they defeated England within 3 days.)
Usually 100+ is regarded as a potentially winning lead, but so far I don't think we have seen a score of 300 - so 75 sounds about right.
England seem to have the edge on batting in theory with Stokes, Woakes and Moeen / Rashid notionally better than the Bangladesh bowlers.
But a good spinner can go through an English side like a dose of cholera, as our pitches are now usually so uncondusive to spin.0 -
It's the only way to square the circle.Gardenwalker said:
I think you would like this to happen.MaxPB said:
This will be the price of Brexit. Our system of in-work benefits will be complete axed.Indigo said:
Yes, but that wont happen. The amount of howling from the opposition benches would be too great, 7 Tories would cave and the bill would be lost.MaxPB said:
They will make a huge difference. When an Eastern European "worker" can stay with a friend for 90 says, register as self employed afterwards, claim tax credits and housing benefits it creates a huge attractive force. Removing that system of tax credits and housing benefits, especially for the self employed, will lower the numbers quite significantly.Indigo said:
Benefit rights will make no difference to numbers, the numbers will keep on climbing, and the Kippers (should they manage not to select that liability Kassam) will be heading toward 20% amongst cries of betrayal.TGOHF said:
"staying in single market" and "Freedom of movement" are yesterdays concepts.Indigo said:
May needs to worry less about the BrExiteers and worry more about the voters. If she stays in the single market it will require Freedom of Movement in all but name, just needing an (easy to obtain) job offer is not going to cut the mustard, and the Tory majority is toast at the next opportunity, she might even be forced into a coalition with the kippers to get anything doneTheScreamingEagles said:Most interesting theory about the Nissan 'deal' and why the government isn't making it public.
Nissan are staying because they've been told we're staying in the single market and the customs union.
Mrs May will then announce a plethora of companies who will only stay on if we stay in both, and force the hard Brexiteers to be associated with an economic disaster.
We want access to the single market and nobody wants tariffs.
The price for the Uk for this will be payments - probably tapered - and the EU will sacrifice some of the benefit rights of low skilled workers in the Uk for this.
win-win.
I don't think it will happen, because politics.0 -
Luckily I'd pulled my tinfoil hat over my eyes just in time to not read that, you handwaving MSM shill.edmundintokyo said:
That's not election fraud, that's a miscalibrated touchscreen. If you had admin access to a machine with no paper trail and you wanted it to steal the votes, you'd just make it steal the votes. You wouldn't make it steal the vote then SHOW THE VOTER THAT YOU JUST STOLE IT.PlatoSaid said:0 -
Anyhow Zac to win looks to me a far more clear cut betting decision than Hillary.
Zac is 26 pts ahead in this poll, Hillary is an average of 6 (Admitedly over a much more massive sample, the chance of a wrong winner election is around 10ish %).0 -
It actually makes you wonder how the likes of VW has survived with civil lawsuits in the U.S. alone of $16.5 billion having been agreed, with the criminal fines there still to be assessed.Patrick said:Have the Americans learned yet that fining European companies gigantic amounts is starting to kick off a tit-for-tat fining war?
Not a good time for VW to be in danger of losing a slug of its lucrative UK business.0 -
The 'elephant in the room' is the independents.- with nearly 500,000 of them having voted they could swamp any +- ( republican - democrat) differentialbrokenwheel said:Reps appear to have won another day of the Florida early vote since the start of in-person. Up to a 52140 lead in vote by mail, up 5905. In-person the Dem lead grew only 3306, up to 37791. Things will be clearer after Souls to the Polls Sunday.
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Waycist! More virtual signalling. I was WTF x1000.Anorak said:
Luckily I'd pulled my tinfoil hat over my eyes just in time to not read that, you handwaving MSM shill.edmundintokyo said:
That's not election fraud, that's a miscalibrated touchscreen. If you had admin access to a machine with no paper trail and you wanted it to steal the votes, you'd just make it steal the votes. You wouldn't make it steal the vote then SHOW THE VOTER THAT YOU JUST STOLE IT.PlatoSaid said:0 -
In fairness to BD they play very little Test Cricket. The excitement generated by these 2 games might suggest that is a mistake and hopefully other touring teams will give them more games. I agree England bat much deeper and in low scoring games that should give them a particular edge. It's gripping.weejonnie said:
The Bangladesh batting has been reminiscent of England 1970s/80s batting. Usually woeful but with some exceptions notable for their rarity.DavidL said:
The rate of fall of wickets usually accelerates though as the pitch deteriorates. I will be up about 7.30 tomorrow. Hope England are still batting. Root or Stokes or Bairstow have to match Tamim. Going to be hard. How much of a lead would England need to be confident? Maybe 75?weejonnie said:
If it is the same rate then it will go into the 4th day - with England's last pair at the wicket.DavidL said:
(Of course if it does end on the third day and Bangladesh win by e.g. 2 runs, they will be able to boast that they defeated England within 3 days.)
Usually 100+ is regarded as a potentially winning lead, but so far I don't think we have seen a score of 300 - so 75 sounds about right.
England seem to have the edge on batting in theory with Stokes, Woakes and Moeen / Rashid notionally better than the Bangladesh bowlers.
But a good spinner can go through an English side like a dose of cholera, as our pitches are now usually so uncondusive to spin.0 -
I think you are right. Single market by stealth, and they will try and sell some kind of watered down immigration policy as success. That's the way I'd do it anyway.Jobabob said:Nissan have an assurance we are going into the Single Market (probably in all but name). There will be other sectors and industries given the same assurance.
Hammond will strangle the Hard Brexiteers by building a coalition of wealth and employment behind a Soft Brexit.
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Do carry on, you are most amusing.Jobabob said:
Waycist! More virtual signalling. I was WTF x1000.Anorak said:
Luckily I'd pulled my tinfoil hat over my eyes just in time to not read that, you handwaving MSM shill.edmundintokyo said:
That's not election fraud, that's a miscalibrated touchscreen. If you had admin access to a machine with no paper trail and you wanted it to steal the votes, you'd just make it steal the votes. You wouldn't make it steal the vote then SHOW THE VOTER THAT YOU JUST STOLE IT.PlatoSaid said:0 -
OPEN YOUR EYES SHEEPLEAnorak said:
Luckily I'd pulled my tinfoil hat over my eyes just in time to not read that, you handwaving MSM shill.edmundintokyo said:
That's not election fraud, that's a miscalibrated touchscreen. If you had admin access to a machine with no paper trail and you wanted it to steal the votes, you'd just make it steal the votes. You wouldn't make it steal the vote then SHOW THE VOTER THAT YOU JUST STOLE IT.PlatoSaid said:0 -
The government's record of selling watered down immigration policies hasn't been that great recently, if all that is going to be offered is needing a job offer and a bit of tinkering with benefits, they are going to get eaten alive.tyson said:
I think you are right. Single market by stealth, and they will try and sell some kind of watered down immigration policy as success. That's the way I'd do it anyway.Jobabob said:Nissan have an assurance we are going into the Single Market (probably in all but name). There will be other sectors and industries given the same assurance.
Hammond will strangle the Hard Brexiteers by building a coalition of wealth and employment behind a Soft Brexit.
Yes, yes I know all about Corbyn, but its a huge gamble, even if Labour dont suddenly come to their senses, its not remotely impossible that Corbyn has some sort of health problem, or decided/is persuaded to step down in favour of a more charismatic leftie.0 -
It depends whether Richmond follows the pattern of Witney. If it does, that brings the LIb Dems close to Zac levels. Three differences from Witney however. There isn't a significant UKIP vote to squeeze in Richmond, which should disfavour the "Conservative". However Zac has two things in his favour: he is a known and popular MP unlike the Cameron replacement. He has ambiguity about whether he actually is a Conservative.Pulpstar said:
I disagree, a 27 pt margin is very meaningful. It means Zac will win.Gardenwalker said:The Richmond Park poll is probably not very meaningful, although it will put some wind in Zac's sails if he's smart enough not to become complacent.
That's a big assumption.
Have the LDs confirmed Olney yet?
Have Labour decided whether or not to run?
My guess is that Zac will probably win, but on a much closer margin than implied by that poll.
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Donald wants to cancel the election and just be declared the winner. I wonder why?
http://us.cnn.com/2016/10/27/politics/donald-trump-cancel-election/index.html0 -
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Not the most ideal poll (primarily becasue small sample), but it's better than nothing.Pulpstar said:Anyhow Zac to win looks to me a far more clear cut betting decision than Hillary.
Zac is 26 pts ahead in this poll, Hillary is an average of 6 (Admitedly over a much more massive sample, the chance of a wrong winner election is around 10ish %).
http://www.bmgresearch.co.uk/richmond-park-election-voting-key-issue-results/
I'll stick with my original assessment of the odds;
1/3 Zac
3/1 LD's0 -
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Good old Tony.
Tony Blair suggests a second referendum to reverse Brexit 'catastrophe', as he calls on Remainers to mobilise
Downing Street insisted there would be no second referendum and brushed off concerns about Mr Blair communicating his views with Mr Hollande.
A No 10 spokesman told a Westminster briefing: "Tony Blair is entitled to put his views to whom he so chooses. But what's important is the PM has been absolutely clear - the British people have spoken, we are listening, we're going to leave the European Union.
"And not only has the PM been clear here but she's also been clear when she's met European leaders.
"There will be no second referendum, Britain is leaving the European Union."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/28/minister-convinced-nissan-to-keep-building-in-uk-with-written-pr/0 -
There's a whole herd of elephants in the room. But it does look to me like Dems aren't particularly enthused.weejonnie said:
The 'elephant in the room' is the independents.- with nearly 500,000 of them having voted they could swamp any +- ( republican - democrat) differentialbrokenwheel said:Reps appear to have won another day of the Florida early vote since the start of in-person. Up to a 52140 lead in vote by mail, up 5905. In-person the Dem lead grew only 3306, up to 37791. Things will be clearer after Souls to the Polls Sunday.
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You can't have everything, so it's a question of what to prioritise. Staying in the Customs Union but not the Single Market actually looks a rather good option overall:Sandpit said:It's the Customs Union that represents the shackles of the EU - the inability to do trade deals elsewhere. If we stay in the CU then we haven't really left the EU in any meaningful way.
Advantages:
- No freedom of movement issue
- No ECJ issues
- None of the political or environmental clap-trap
- No CFP
- No CAP
- Very low contributions to the EU budget
- Zero tariffs with the EU (vital for the car industry)
- Zero paperwork for our manufacturers trading with the EU (vital for the car industry)
- Probably no delays in agreeing trade agreements and WTO rules because these would inherit from the existing EU ones
Disadvantages:
- Couldn't negotiate our own trade deals outside the EU ones
- Unclear what the status of the City would be [would require separate agreement].
If you can propose an attainable alternative which is better, I'm sure the PM would like to know hear about it.0 -
I'm not sure the small sample is such an issue, it is actually a fair proportion of the population there. In addition Richmond park must have a fairly uniform "A" distribution of socio-economic class, as anyone who lives there has benefitted from huge asset inflation over the years.Pong said:
Not the most ideal poll (primarily becasue small sample), but it's better than nothing.Pulpstar said:Anyhow Zac to win looks to me a far more clear cut betting decision than Hillary.
Zac is 26 pts ahead in this poll, Hillary is an average of 6 (Admitedly over a much more massive sample, the chance of a wrong winner election is around 10ish %).
http://www.bmgresearch.co.uk/richmond-park-election-voting-key-issue-results/
I'll stick with my original assessment of the odds;
1/3 Zac
3/1 LD's
I reckon Zac is more like a 1-5 shot with the poll personally.0 -
I can see your hands waving from here. Colour me unamused! You are just playing at being a grown up. I'm WTF on steroids.Anorak said:
Do carry on, you are most amusing.Jobabob said:
Waycist! More virtual signalling. I was WTF x1000.Anorak said:
Luckily I'd pulled my tinfoil hat over my eyes just in time to not read that, you handwaving MSM shill.edmundintokyo said:
That's not election fraud, that's a miscalibrated touchscreen. If you had admin access to a machine with no paper trail and you wanted it to steal the votes, you'd just make it steal the votes. You wouldn't make it steal the vote then SHOW THE VOTER THAT YOU JUST STOLE IT.PlatoSaid said:0 -
America, home to the world's stupidest Illuminati.Anorak said:
Luckily I'd pulled my tinfoil hat over my eyes just in time to not read that, you handwaving MSM shill.edmundintokyo said:
That's not election fraud, that's a miscalibrated touchscreen. If you had admin access to a machine with no paper trail and you wanted it to steal the votes, you'd just make it steal the votes. You wouldn't make it steal the vote then SHOW THE VOTER THAT YOU JUST STOLE IT.PlatoSaid said:0 -
If they can enthuse themselves enough to give Hillary between 250 and 269 electoral college votes I'd be particularly grateful.brokenwheel said:
There's a whole herd of elephants in the room. But I does look to me like Dems aren't particularly enthused.weejonnie said:
The 'elephant in the room' is the independents.- with nearly 500,000 of them having voted they could swamp any +- ( republican - democrat) differentialbrokenwheel said:Reps appear to have won another day of the Florida early vote since the start of in-person. Up to a 52140 lead in vote by mail, up 5905. In-person the Dem lead grew only 3306, up to 37791. Things will be clearer after Souls to the Polls Sunday.
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Looks good for Zac imho. He has drifted down a little on BF since I last looked. At 1.57 now.Pulpstar said:Anyhow Zac to win looks to me a far more clear cut betting decision than Hillary.
Zac is 26 pts ahead in this poll, Hillary is an average of 6 (Admitedly over a much more massive sample, the chance of a wrong winner election is around 10ish %).0 -
Since this is CNN, its impartiality is not under question. Everyone KNOWS it is biased.ToryJim said:Donald wants to cancel the election and just be declared the winner. I wonder why?
http://us.cnn.com/2016/10/27/politics/donald-trump-cancel-election/index.html0 -
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I'd be most grateful is they go 360+Pulpstar said:
If they can enthuse themselves enough to give Hillary between 250 and 269 electoral college votes I'd be particularly grateful.brokenwheel said:
There's a whole herd of elephants in the room. But I does look to me like Dems aren't particularly enthused.weejonnie said:
The 'elephant in the room' is the independents.- with nearly 500,000 of them having voted they could swamp any +- ( republican - democrat) differentialbrokenwheel said:Reps appear to have won another day of the Florida early vote since the start of in-person. Up to a 52140 lead in vote by mail, up 5905. In-person the Dem lead grew only 3306, up to 37791. Things will be clearer after Souls to the Polls Sunday.
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Nobody has a clue, that is about it. It has been fun watching a conspiracy theory actually being developed on here this morning, though.Gardenwalker said:
If "Europe" has confirmed UK assurances, why hasn't it leaked already?
I tend to think that Mrs May hasn't yet made up her mind and is letting Hammond argue it out with the Brexiters. Mood music suggests Hammond is winning, but that's only this week.
Nobody has a clue.0 -
Nikki Haley says she will vote for Trump.
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It's looking a bit close for comfort in the US. Anecdotally I've heard a few people who were in the undecided camp that moved to Clinton have now moved back into undecided territory.0
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The spirit of Brexit is in the air!MaxPB said:It's looking a bit close for comfort in the US. Anecdotally I've heard a few people who were in the undecided camp that moved to Clinton have now moved back into undecided territory.
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There's a short video circulating on Twitter naming and shaming every Hillary media friend with their pix, name and news outlet. It's a total killer reputation wise.weejonnie said:
Since this is CNN, its impartiality is not under question. Everyone KNOWS it is biased.ToryJim said:Donald wants to cancel the election and just be declared the winner. I wonder why?
http://us.cnn.com/2016/10/27/politics/donald-trump-cancel-election/index.html
The 4th Estate have shot themselves in their on-screen antics and in Wikileaks. One survey had the US media trust ratings at 6% - before the full bucket of crap was tipped out. A load of people have no reputation to trade on anymore. IIRC it's about 65 well known/big names so far.0 -
Miss Plato, that's almost Hollandesque.
I still think Trump will lose. But if the Republicans can find someone who can harness those left behind by globalisation and misunderstood by the Establishment, they could get a landslide.
Anyway, I'm off for a bit.0 -
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More likely he is holding back for the final push.619 said:Donald is running out of cash
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No, his cash on hand is low.weejonnie said:
More likely he is holding back for the final push.619 said:Donald is running out of cash
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I'm puzzled, because this CNN report, published today, says:brokenwheel said:Reps appear to have won another day of the Florida early vote since the start of in-person. Up to a 52140 lead in vote by mail, up 5905. In-person the Dem lead grew only 3306, up to 37791. Things will be clearer after Souls to the Polls Sunday.
Now that in-person early voting is underway, the GOP advantage has been slashed by about two-thirds. They were up by about 18,000 votes earlier this week, but now they lead by only about 6,000 -- or 0.3 percentage points. While they are still leading, they are far behind the advantage of 6.8 points -- almost 73,000 votes -- that they had at this point in 2008.
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/27/politics/early-voting-update-clinton-trump-election-2016/
That would be good news for Clinton, because in 2008 the Democrats won Florida by 2.8%. But it doesn't seem to tally with the official figures, which apparently show the Republicans still more than 14,000 ahead. On the other hand, that would be only 0.5% of the total, so if CNN's figures for 2008 are right the Republican percentage lead would still be well down on that election.
The report also says the Democrat percentage lead in early voting in North Carolina is down on the 2012 figure for the same time, which is obviously bad news for Clinton. Also that the Democrat percentage lead in Iowa is down on 2012, but only by 2.3 points, which is less than their winning margin of 5.8% in 2012. And similarly the Republican percentage lead in Arizona is down by 6.8 points on 2012, again less than their 2012 winning margin of 9%.0 -
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It's certainly not going to happen with a majority of 12.Gardenwalker said:
I think you would like this to happen.MaxPB said:
This will be the price of Brexit. Our system of in-work benefits will be complete axed.Indigo said:
Yes, but that wont happen. The amount of howling from the opposition benches would be too great, 7 Tories would cave and the bill would be lost.MaxPB said:
They will make a huge difference. When an Eastern European "worker" can stay with a friend for 90 says, register as self employed afterwards, claim tax credits and housing benefits it creates a huge attractive force. Removing that system of tax credits and housing benefits, especially for the self employed, will lower the numbers quite significantly.Indigo said:
Benefit rights will make no difference to numbers, the numbers will keep on climbing, and the Kippers (should they manage not to select that liability Kassam) will be heading toward 20% amongst cries of betrayal.TGOHF said:
"staying in single market" and "Freedom of movement" are yesterdays concepts.Indigo said:
May needs to worry less about the BrExiteers and worry more about the voters. If she stays in the single market it will require Freedom of Movement in all but name, just needing an (easy to obtain) job offer is not going to cut the mustard, and the Tory majority is toast at the next opportunity, she might even be forced into a coalition with the kippers to get anything doneTheScreamingEagles said:Most interesting theory about the Nissan 'deal' and why the government isn't making it public.
Nissan are staying because they've been told we're staying in the single market and the customs union.
Mrs May will then announce a plethora of companies who will only stay on if we stay in both, and force the hard Brexiteers to be associated with an economic disaster.
We want access to the single market and nobody wants tariffs.
The price for the Uk for this will be payments - probably tapered - and the EU will sacrifice some of the benefit rights of low skilled workers in the Uk for this.
win-win.
I don't think it will happen, because politics.0 -
No, you're just a passive-agressive subposting twat.Jobabob said:
I can see your hands waving from here. Colour me unamused! You are just playing at being a grown up. I'm WTF on steroids.Anorak said:
Do carry on, you are most amusing.Jobabob said:
Waycist! More virtual signalling. I was WTF x1000.Anorak said:
Luckily I'd pulled my tinfoil hat over my eyes just in time to not read that, you handwaving MSM shill.edmundintokyo said:
That's not election fraud, that's a miscalibrated touchscreen. If you had admin access to a machine with no paper trail and you wanted it to steal the votes, you'd just make it steal the votes. You wouldn't make it steal the vote then SHOW THE VOTER THAT YOU JUST STOLE IT.PlatoSaid said:
Times only one, but that's more than enough.0 -
Liquid lunch?Jobabob said:Nissan have an assurance we are going into the Single Market (probably in all but name). There will be other sectors and industries given the same assurance.
Hammond will strangle the Hard Brexiteers by building a coalition of wealth and employment behind a Soft Brexit.
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European anti trust authorities not the EUHurstLlama said:
Morning, Mr. B., have you seen the article on RBS in this morning's Telegraph. Makes for fun reading. Not only did they make a loss in their last financial year, they are also not going to be able to flog off William & Glynns in time to meet the EU mandated deadline of December 2017. If they don't then the EU can appoint a commissioner to take charge of divestment and he/she can flog it for whatever price they like to whoever they like. I can see that going down well.Alanbrooke said:
there's just the little matter of that £1 trillion support the bankers needed from us, have they stopped using it yet ?Scott_P said:
Give tax receipts from bankers to foreign car makers? Works great until the bankers tax receipts dry up...Alanbrooke said:you never did have a plan to rebalance the economy bar sound bites, looks like Mrs May has
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