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Boozer McCruiser.Cyclefree said:
Cruisy McCruiseface.Alanbrooke said:
SS TitanicEssexit said:O/T: Do people never learn?!
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Alanbrooke said:
SS Titanic
The Brexitania0 -
Bangladesh showing England they can do collapses too. House of cards.0
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Just that the picture is cut just below where the ESC key is on my MBA keyboard, but it shows a key there for something or other.Indigo said:
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SS The Unsinkable Tony BlairCyclefree said:
Cruisy McCruiseface.Alanbrooke said:
SS TitanicEssexit said:O/T: Do people never learn?!
https://twitter.com/pandocruises/status/791367794118057984
should make for fun cruising the Eastern Med.0 -
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Step away for ten minutes and three more wickets fall!! 215/9 now, England huge favourites from here.0
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SOS Coffin Dodgerwilliamglenn said:
Boozer McCruiser.Cyclefree said:
Cruisy McCruiseface.Alanbrooke said:
SS TitanicEssexit said:O/T: Do people never learn?!
https://twitter.com/pandocruises/status/791367794118057984
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/liberaldemocrats/7225643/Baroness-Tonge-fired-over-outburst-against-Israeli-soldiers-in-Haiti.html
Jenny Tonge would, frankly, be more at home in Corbyn's Labour party than in the Lib Dems. A woman of integrity and principle she is not, IMO.
Those who wrote vile things to her after the death of her daughter are utter scumbags.0 -
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The ESC Key now sometimes appears on the TFT touch strip at the top of the screen, the problem I imagine is that the app has to tell the Mac what keys it wants in the strip, and most existing apps wont know how to. See the picture on Apple.geoffw said:
Just that the picture is cut just below where the ESC key is on my MBA keyboard, but it shows a key there for something or other.Indigo said:
http://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/0 -
Bill Clinton making three speeches in Pennsylvania today.JackW said:
Only because they haven't included two Clinton polls of +6 and +7 issued yesterday. RCP playing games again.MonikerDiCanio said:
Realclearpolitics moves Pennsylvania from Leans Mrs Clinton to Toss up status.JackW said:Jonathan Swan and Ben Kamisar of "Politico" struggle to find a viable Trump route to 270 :
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/303167-how-does-trump-get-to-270
http://www.politicspa.com/realclearpolitics-moves-pa-to-toss-up-status/79563/0 -
Visual Interface, as any programmer knows. Before K&R editors were 'difficult'.Ishmael_X said:When did ESC last actually do anything other than (in some applications) exit full screen?
curses.h: Beaten by Indigo!
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@SkyNewsBreak: Northern Ireland's High Court has rejected claim that NI law means royal prerogative cannot be used to trigger formal process of leaving EU0
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Ah, but more importantly, do you know who's being tested ? *Cough*TheScreamingEagles said:
We have regular, random drug tests at work, though I do know when they are happening.Pulpstar said:
Wouldn't a coke habit be cheaper ?TheScreamingEagles said:
You're not just paying for the hardware, one of the reasons I go for macs is no blue screen of death.rcs1000 said:
They're A THOUSAND POUNDS CHEAPER - 1,500 vs 2,500 - on a like-for-like basis.DecrepitJohnL said:
No escape key. But Microsoft has recently announced some very, very expensive Surface laptops aimed at the graphics market.rcs1000 said:By the way, is it my imagination or are the new MacBook Pros completely, absurdly, ridiculously expensive? Two and a half thousand pounds for the 15 inch model; that's a grand more than a similarly spec'ed Surface Book. (And that includes a free Xbox One.)
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Essexit said:
O/T: Do people never learn?!
https://twitter.com/pandocruises/status/791367794118057984
We once ran a major public event for young people for a new logo for a youth service.....we had a celebrity and press.... All the better entries had something of Goebbels about them, angular and menacing, so I had to get an artist to do something at the last minute and say he was an 11 year old from Gravesend. Surprisingly he wasn't there to win his prize. The logo still is there.0 -
The expression 'Suck it up, losers' springs to mind...Scott_P said:@SkyNewsBreak: Northern Ireland's High Court has rejected claim that NI law means royal prerogative cannot be used to trigger formal process of leaving EU
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I do. It is remarkable how many people have shy kidneys.peter_from_putney said:
Ah, but more importantly, do you know who's being tested ? *Cough*TheScreamingEagles said:
We have regular, random drug tests at work, though I do know when they are happening.Pulpstar said:
Wouldn't a coke habit be cheaper ?TheScreamingEagles said:
You're not just paying for the hardware, one of the reasons I go for macs is no blue screen of death.rcs1000 said:
They're A THOUSAND POUNDS CHEAPER - 1,500 vs 2,500 - on a like-for-like basis.DecrepitJohnL said:
No escape key. But Microsoft has recently announced some very, very expensive Surface laptops aimed at the graphics market.rcs1000 said:By the way, is it my imagination or are the new MacBook Pros completely, absurdly, ridiculously expensive? Two and a half thousand pounds for the 15 inch model; that's a grand more than a similarly spec'ed Surface Book. (And that includes a free Xbox One.)
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You could get a job on Blue Peter with that approach.tyson said:Essexit said:O/T: Do people never learn?!
https://twitter.com/pandocruises/status/791367794118057984
We once ran a major public event for young people for a new logo for a youth service.....we had a celebrity and press.... All the better entries had something of Goebbels about them, angular and menacing, so I had to get an artist to do something at the last minute and say he was an 11 year old from Gravesend. Surprisingly he wasn't there to win his prize. The logo still is there.0 -
Bangladesh lost 9 for 49, that scorecard looks like when Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis were at their pomp according to Derek Pringle.0
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All out for 220. Great work from the bowlers today, now let's hope the batsmen can deliver.0
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"Steiner.."Essexit said:O/T: Do people never learn?!
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Shock Horror - NI court rules that NI is part of the UK and that UK decisions get made by UK PM. Can they please tell this to wee Jimmy Krankie!Scott_P said:@SkyNewsBreak: Northern Ireland's High Court has rejected claim that NI law means royal prerogative cannot be used to trigger formal process of leaving EU
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I think that a little dismal, though agree the supposed Brexit good news is merely bad news that hasn't happened.tyson said:
And there are the expats dealing with a 30% increase in living costs (no sympathy at all from the Brexiters)- I could get over 1.43 to the Euro a year ago/ now its down to about 1.08 (on my exchange).Scott_P said:@EdConwaySky: Last night Apple quietly raised the UK prices of its computers to reflect the fall in the pound. So a 4K iMac that was £1,199 is now £1,449
But surely we are living in some parallel multiverse....yesterdays economic news, a slowdown in growth, and the continuation of Nissan- they all seem to be put through the prism of Brexit crapness whereby anything that isn't that crap is viewed as a resounding success for Brexit.
If remain had won I doubt very much we would have all been creaming our undies on slowing growth rates of 0.5%, or Nissans continuation of the NE contract.
Meanwhile the exchange rate is shocking, stagflation is coming, business investment is stalling, the deficit is increasing, the current account increasing....we are eight years from the last economic shock....and after Nissan yesterday we have shown just how open we are to blackmail from industry and the EU because of Brexit.
I don't think we could have picked a worse time to put us through the uncertainty of Brexit....when (not if) the next economic shock hits us....it'll be tough.
My view is that things are rarely as good as they seem or as bad as they seem, just boringly in the middle.
By this principle a Wall St crash on a Trump victory would be a buying opportunity, as was Brexit. I made about 20× my Brexit gambling profit by buying back the shares that I had sold pre Brexit. Quite a nice little earner.0 -
I am a sage 220 all out !!!0
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So this is what "take back control" looks like
@faisalislam: 7/10 Greg Clark, who visited Nissan HQ told me yesterday "its very important that businesses like Nissan help shape our negotiating mandate"
I for one welcome our new Japanese Automotive overlords...0 -
Indeed.MonikerDiCanio said:
Bill Clinton making three speeches in Pennsylvania today.JackW said:
Only because they haven't included two Clinton polls of +6 and +7 issued yesterday. RCP playing games again.MonikerDiCanio said:
Realclearpolitics moves Pennsylvania from Leans Mrs Clinton to Toss up status.JackW said:Jonathan Swan and Ben Kamisar of "Politico" struggle to find a viable Trump route to 270 :
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/303167-how-does-trump-get-to-270
http://www.politicspa.com/realclearpolitics-moves-pa-to-toss-up-status/79563/
Hillary has the nice problem of an indulgence of high profile surrogates and states to put them in supporting not only her campaign but down ballot race too as in the Pennsylvania Senate race.
Clinton has - Bill .. POTUS .. Michelle .. Keane .. Biden .. Chelsea .. Sanders .. Warren .. Gore
Trump has the missus (infrequently) and Pence. Most of the other GOP leaders aren't touching Donald with a barge poll.
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Only two batsmen with more than 13, not a nice scorecard for the Banglas - but let's wait a couple of hours before too much gloating!TheScreamingEagles said:Bangladesh lost 9 for 49, that scorecard looks like when Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis were at their pomp according to Derek Pringle.
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I always thought I should send something into "Take Hart"....I was so rubbish at drawing, I though as a 12 year old I could pass off something as maybe a three year old.SandyRentool said:
You could get a job on Blue Peter with that approach.tyson said:Essexit said:O/T: Do people never learn?!
https://twitter.com/pandocruises/status/791367794118057984
We once ran a major public event for young people for a new logo for a youth service.....we had a celebrity and press.... All the better entries had something of Goebbels about them, angular and menacing, so I had to get an artist to do something at the last minute and say he was an 11 year old from Gravesend. Surprisingly he wasn't there to win his prize. The logo still is there.
A trip down memory line. That music makes me want to cry......and I cannot help think of Christopher Walken blowing his brains out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dP1V_acXqY
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Poor old Banglas (sorry I've been calling them Bangers)...put to the sword....Oh well we will soon enough feel what that is like with our Brexit negotiations.0
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As someone who started following the England cricket team since 1990, I know it is wise never wise to gloat.Sandpit said:
Only two batsmen with more than 13, not a nice scorecard for the Banglas - but let's wait a couple of hours before too much gloating!TheScreamingEagles said:Bangladesh lost 9 for 49, that scorecard looks like when Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis were at their pomp according to Derek Pringle.
I remember 46 all out when we had dominated a test match.0 -
If you use vi - which is an old-school text editor that wires your brain directly to the document you're editing - there are two different modes of operation, and you use ESC a lot to switch between them.Ishmael_X said:
When did ESC last actually do anything other than (in some applications) exit full screen?DecrepitJohnL said:
No escape key. But Microsoft has recently announced some very, very expensive Surface laptops aimed at the graphics market.rcs1000 said:By the way, is it my imagination or are the new MacBook Pros completely, absurdly, ridiculously expensive? Two and a half thousand pounds for the 15 inch model; that's a grand more than a similarly spec'ed Surface Book. (And that includes a free Xbox One.)
However, ESC is a little bit far away, so it might be better to remap this to another key that you don't use much. I take it Apple haven't removed the Windows key?0 -
Oh come on Jack he does have Rudy and Newt. He also has Christie if he's still pulling his weight...JackW said:
Indeed.MonikerDiCanio said:
Bill Clinton making three speeches in Pennsylvania today.JackW said:
Only because they haven't included two Clinton polls of +6 and +7 issued yesterday. RCP playing games again.MonikerDiCanio said:
Realclearpolitics moves Pennsylvania from Leans Mrs Clinton to Toss up status.JackW said:Jonathan Swan and Ben Kamisar of "Politico" struggle to find a viable Trump route to 270 :
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/303167-how-does-trump-get-to-270
http://www.politicspa.com/realclearpolitics-moves-pa-to-toss-up-status/79563/
Hillary has the nice problem of an indulgence of high profile surrogates and states to put them in supporting not only her campaign but down ballot race too as in the Pennsylvania Senate race.
Clinton has - Bill .. POTUS .. Michelle .. Keane .. Biden .. Chelsea .. Sanders .. Warren .. Gore
Trump has the missus (infrequently) and Pence. Most of the other GOP leaders aren't touching Donald with a barge poll.0 -
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RMS Lawrence DallaglioEssexit said:O/T: Do people never learn?!
https://twitter.com/pandocruises/status/791367794118057984
Forget any Italian roots: 100% English!
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I'm not usually particularly hawkish when it comes to England's batting, but I think I can say with certainty that we won't be following on today!weejonnie said:
All out for 220 - do you think they'll be able to enforce the follow-on later today?tyson said:The Bangers deflating faster than Hillary's poll leads
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That there illustrates Trumps problems, time spent in AZ is time you don't have to expand the map.williamglenn said:0 -
Alex Wickham
Leaked documents show how Baroness Scotland waived procurement practices to hire a close friend on £30,000-per-month https://t.co/2CY03oZpV9 https://t.co/w4ofthpMFh0 -
Yes, don't remind me of '90s English cricket!! It was 2005 before we really found our mojo.TheScreamingEagles said:
As someone who started following the England cricket team since 1990, I know it is wise never wise to gloat.Sandpit said:
Only two batsmen with more than 13, not a nice scorecard for the Banglas - but let's wait a couple of hours before too much gloating!TheScreamingEagles said:Bangladesh lost 9 for 49, that scorecard looks like when Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis were at their pomp according to Derek Pringle.
I remember 46 all out when we had dominated a test match.0 -
Obama and Clinton rushing to support Clinton in supposedly 'safe' states (according to 619). Do they know something we don't?JackW said:
Indeed.MonikerDiCanio said:
Bill Clinton making three speeches in Pennsylvania today.JackW said:
Only because they haven't included two Clinton polls of +6 and +7 issued yesterday. RCP playing games again.MonikerDiCanio said:
Realclearpolitics moves Pennsylvania from Leans Mrs Clinton to Toss up status.JackW said:Jonathan Swan and Ben Kamisar of "Politico" struggle to find a viable Trump route to 270 :
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/303167-how-does-trump-get-to-270
http://www.politicspa.com/realclearpolitics-moves-pa-to-toss-up-status/79563/
Hillary has the nice problem of an indulgence of high profile surrogates and states to put them in supporting not only her campaign but down ballot race too as in the Pennsylvania Senate race.
Clinton has - Bill .. POTUS .. Michelle .. Keane .. Biden .. Chelsea .. Sanders .. Warren .. Gore
Trump has the missus (infrequently) and Pence. Most of the other GOP leaders aren't touching Donald with a barge poll.0 -
Nothing quite like solving a baffling, weird, tiny but irksome technical problem only for one more to crop up.
It's not too serious but it's just bloody irksome. Humbug!0 -
Twitter seems caught between Cruisy McCruiseface and Shippy McShipface.williamglenn said:
Boozer McCruiser.Cyclefree said:
Cruisy McCruiseface.Alanbrooke said:
SS TitanicEssexit said:O/T: Do people never learn?!
https://twitter.com/pandocruises/status/791367794118057984
I'd go for Das Boot to wind up the brexiteers. Or the Margaret Thatcher just to watch half the internet explode.0 -
I became a cricket fan and a Tory in the 90s, you can't call me a glory hunter, apart from 1992 it was a grim time until 2005 when we won The Ashes and David Cameron became Tory leader.Sandpit said:
Yes, don't remind me of '90s English cricket!! It was 2005 before we really found our mojo.TheScreamingEagles said:
As someone who started following the England cricket team since 1990, I know it is wise never wise to gloat.Sandpit said:
Only two batsmen with more than 13, not a nice scorecard for the Banglas - but let's wait a couple of hours before too much gloating!TheScreamingEagles said:Bangladesh lost 9 for 49, that scorecard looks like when Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis were at their pomp according to Derek Pringle.
I remember 46 all out when we had dominated a test match.0 -
LOL. The internal polls must be rigged as well.williamglenn said:0 -
As we were saying, the nice Mr Duckett gets an early bath.0
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One down - only 9 to go.Sandpit said:
I'm not usually particularly hawkish when it comes to England's batting, but I think I can say with certainty that we won't be following on today!weejonnie said:
All out for 220 - do you think they'll be able to enforce the follow-on later today?tyson said:The Bangers deflating faster than Hillary's poll leads
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6 and out?Sandpit said:As we were saying, the nice Mr Duckett gets an early bath.
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And if there had been DRS then, we might not have won that series. Kasprowicz shouldn't have been given out...Sandpit said:
Yes, don't remind me of '90s English cricket!! It was 2005 before we really found our mojo.TheScreamingEagles said:
As someone who started following the England cricket team since 1990, I know it is wise never wise to gloat.Sandpit said:
Only two batsmen with more than 13, not a nice scorecard for the Banglas - but let's wait a couple of hours before too much gloating!TheScreamingEagles said:Bangladesh lost 9 for 49, that scorecard looks like when Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis were at their pomp according to Derek Pringle.
I remember 46 all out when we had dominated a test match.0 -
Nissan = a zaibatsu (a word I know from William Gibson). Cf the line in Neuromancer about "nations so backward that they still took the concept of nationhood seriously".Scott_P said:So this is what "take back control" looks like
@faisalislam: 7/10 Greg Clark, who visited Nissan HQ told me yesterday "its very important that businesses like Nissan help shape our negotiating mandate"
I for one welcome our new Japanese Automotive overlords...0 -
Sounds like Unimaginative McUnimaginativeFace twatterers.Anorak said:
Twitter seems caught between Cruisy McCruiseface and Shippy McShipface.williamglenn said:
Boozer McCruiser.Cyclefree said:
Cruisy McCruiseface.Alanbrooke said:
SS TitanicEssexit said:O/T: Do people never learn?!
https://twitter.com/pandocruises/status/791367794118057984
I'd go for Das Boot to wind up the brexiteers. Or the Margaret Thatcher just to watch half the internet explode.
SS Prison Ship is my suggestion.0 -
So you're just like Mrs Thatcher thenScott_P said:So this is what "take back control" looks like
@faisalislam: 7/10 Greg Clark, who visited Nissan HQ told me yesterday "its very important that businesses like Nissan help shape our negotiating mandate"
I for one welcome our new Japanese Automotive overlords...0 -
Doesn't work like that though, KP was given out incorrectly in the second innings, and with DRS he might have gone on an scored a double century.ThreeQuidder said:
And if there had been DRS then, we might not have won that series. Kasprowicz shouldn't have been given out...Sandpit said:
Yes, don't remind me of '90s English cricket!! It was 2005 before we really found our mojo.TheScreamingEagles said:
As someone who started following the England cricket team since 1990, I know it is wise never wise to gloat.Sandpit said:
Only two batsmen with more than 13, not a nice scorecard for the Banglas - but let's wait a couple of hours before too much gloating!TheScreamingEagles said:Bangladesh lost 9 for 49, that scorecard looks like when Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis were at their pomp according to Derek Pringle.
I remember 46 all out when we had dominated a test match.0 -
I think you failed to understand my post. An oversight on your part I'm sure.weejonnie said:
Obama and Clinton rushing to support Clinton in supposedly 'safe' states (according to 619). Do they know something we don't?JackW said:
Indeed.MonikerDiCanio said:
Bill Clinton making three speeches in Pennsylvania today.JackW said:
Only because they haven't included two Clinton polls of +6 and +7 issued yesterday. RCP playing games again.MonikerDiCanio said:
Realclearpolitics moves Pennsylvania from Leans Mrs Clinton to Toss up status.JackW said:Jonathan Swan and Ben Kamisar of "Politico" struggle to find a viable Trump route to 270 :
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/303167-how-does-trump-get-to-270
http://www.politicspa.com/realclearpolitics-moves-pa-to-toss-up-status/79563/
Hillary has the nice problem of an indulgence of high profile surrogates and states to put them in supporting not only her campaign but down ballot race too as in the Pennsylvania Senate race.
Clinton has - Bill .. POTUS .. Michelle .. Keane .. Biden .. Chelsea .. Sanders .. Warren .. Gore
Trump has the missus (infrequently) and Pence. Most of the other GOP leaders aren't touching Donald with a barge poll.
Is Trump off to Arizona tomorrow to support John McCain. Over the past few days was Pence in Utah and Omaha taking the air .... 0 -
Well he does have Melania and Ivanka.....ToryJim said:
Oh come on Jack he does have Rudy and Newt. He also has Christie if he's still pulling his weight...JackW said:
Indeed.MonikerDiCanio said:
Bill Clinton making three speeches in Pennsylvania today.JackW said:
Only because they haven't included two Clinton polls of +6 and +7 issued yesterday. RCP playing games again.MonikerDiCanio said:
Realclearpolitics moves Pennsylvania from Leans Mrs Clinton to Toss up status.JackW said:Jonathan Swan and Ben Kamisar of "Politico" struggle to find a viable Trump route to 270 :
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/303167-how-does-trump-get-to-270
http://www.politicspa.com/realclearpolitics-moves-pa-to-toss-up-status/79563/
Hillary has the nice problem of an indulgence of high profile surrogates and states to put them in supporting not only her campaign but down ballot race too as in the Pennsylvania Senate race.
Clinton has - Bill .. POTUS .. Michelle .. Keane .. Biden .. Chelsea .. Sanders .. Warren .. Gore
Trump has the missus (infrequently) and Pence. Most of the other GOP leaders aren't touching Donald with a barge poll.0 -
Seven and out, from 5 balls! FoW 10/1.OldKingCole said:
6 and out?Sandpit said:As we were saying, the nice Mr Duckett gets an early bath.
First target achieved, at 20/1 we won't be following on!0 -
And Farage.nunu said:
Well he does have Melania and Ivanka.....ToryJim said:
Oh come on Jack he does have Rudy and Newt. He also has Christie if he's still pulling his weight...JackW said:
Indeed.MonikerDiCanio said:
Bill Clinton making three speeches in Pennsylvania today.JackW said:
Only because they haven't included two Clinton polls of +6 and +7 issued yesterday. RCP playing games again.MonikerDiCanio said:
Realclearpolitics moves Pennsylvania from Leans Mrs Clinton to Toss up status.JackW said:Jonathan Swan and Ben Kamisar of "Politico" struggle to find a viable Trump route to 270 :
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/303167-how-does-trump-get-to-270
http://www.politicspa.com/realclearpolitics-moves-pa-to-toss-up-status/79563/
Hillary has the nice problem of an indulgence of high profile surrogates and states to put them in supporting not only her campaign but down ballot race too as in the Pennsylvania Senate race.
Clinton has - Bill .. POTUS .. Michelle .. Keane .. Biden .. Chelsea .. Sanders .. Warren .. Gore
Trump has the missus (infrequently) and Pence. Most of the other GOP leaders aren't touching Donald with a barge poll.0 -
Most interesting theory about the Nissan 'deal' and why the government isn't making it public.
Nissan are staying because they've been told we're staying in the single market and the customs union.
Mrs May will then announce a plethora of companies who will only stay on if we stay in both, and force the hard Brexiteers to be associated with an economic disaster.0 -
Keen on Blair now he is set for a humiliating return as a Remainer, are we?TheScreamingEagles said:
Seriously - he hasn't ever been this far removed from popular consciousness. Any such party would be hammered....
We're leaving. People like Blair should be trying to avoid attention at the moment, given his policies are a huge cause of the anti-EU grievance....0 -
On topic, the interesting thing about currency effects is that they should mess with the odds when you're betting in the currency in question.
Suppose Mark Carney wanted to do huge-scale helicopter money that would halve the value of the pound, but Theresa May thought it was a bad idea, so they agreed to toss a coin. Normally you'd expect the markets on a coin toss to be evens, showing a 50/50 probability. But if you bet in pounds, your winnings if Carney wins the toss would be worth only half as much (denominated in hard currency, like MacBooks) as your winnings if May wins, so you should require much better odds than evens to bet on Carney.
The upshot is that if Trump is very bad for the dollar, USD markets should appear to overestimate the likelihood of him winning, and that overestimate shouldn't be there in the GBP markets. We saw this in the opposite direction in the Brexit odds, meaning that the UK markets actually represented a higher probability of Brexit than people were claiming.
I don't think we're seeing this divergence? If I'm right then the markets don't expect Trump to represent a Brexit-style apocalypse for the US dollar.0 -
General Belgrano 2 is my little contribution. Ideal for cruising the Southern Ocean...SandyRentool said:
Sounds like Unimaginative McUnimaginativeFace twatterers.Anorak said:
Twitter seems caught between Cruisy McCruiseface and Shippy McShipface.williamglenn said:
Boozer McCruiser.Cyclefree said:
Cruisy McCruiseface.Alanbrooke said:
SS TitanicEssexit said:O/T: Do people never learn?!
https://twitter.com/pandocruises/status/791367794118057984
I'd go for Das Boot to wind up the brexiteers. Or the Margaret Thatcher just to watch half the internet explode.
SS Prison Ship is my suggestion.0 -
Watching Trump rallies in Ohio this week, I'm reminded why they're held a lot in schools, factories, college towns, etc. Better a hostage crowd of kids or employees than people with lots of free time on a Thursday afternoon.0
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SS HarambeSandyRentool said:
Sounds like Unimaginative McUnimaginativeFace twatterers.Anorak said:
Twitter seems caught between Cruisy McCruiseface and Shippy McShipface.williamglenn said:
Boozer McCruiser.Cyclefree said:
Cruisy McCruiseface.Alanbrooke said:
SS TitanicEssexit said:O/T: Do people never learn?!
https://twitter.com/pandocruises/status/791367794118057984
I'd go for Das Boot to wind up the brexiteers. Or the Margaret Thatcher just to watch half the internet explode.
SS Prison Ship is my suggestion.0 -
Ditto with his day spent in Washington two days ago.ToryJim said:
That there illustrates Trumps problems, time spent in AZ is time you don't have to expand the map.williamglenn said:
I didn't say I thought PA was safe, just that its more than likely going to Clinton. Also, helps the senate race!0 -
Capt'n Cook next for the early bath. 24/2, this isn't over.0
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Brilliantly cunning except the people out there doing the negotiation are Boris, Davis and Fox.TheScreamingEagles said:Most interesting theory about the Nissan 'deal' and why the government isn't making it public.
Nissan are staying because they've been told we're staying in the single market and the customs union.
Mrs May will then announce a plethora of companies who will only stay on if we stay in both, and force the hard Brexiteers to be associated with an economic disaster.0 -
We've got lots of Yorkshire batting in this team. Keep calm.Sandpit said:Capt'n Cook next for the early bath. 24/2, this isn't over.
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This deal was done by Greg Clark and Phil Hammond.rottenborough said:
Brilliantly cunning except the people out there doing the negotiation are Boris, Davis and Fox.TheScreamingEagles said:Most interesting theory about the Nissan 'deal' and why the government isn't making it public.
Nissan are staying because they've been told we're staying in the single market and the customs union.
Mrs May will then announce a plethora of companies who will only stay on if we stay in both, and force the hard Brexiteers to be associated with an economic disaster.0 -
It's the Customs Union that represents the shackles of the EU - the inability to do trade deals elsewhere. If we stay in the CU then we haven't really left the EU in any meaningful way.TheScreamingEagles said:Most interesting theory about the Nissan 'deal' and why the government isn't making it public.
Nissan are staying because they've been told we're staying in the single market and the customs union.
Mrs May will then announce a plethora of companies who will only stay on if we stay in both, and force the hard Brexiteers to be associated with an economic disaster.0 -
Are the lizard people facilitating the negotiations ?TheScreamingEagles said:Most interesting theory about the Nissan 'deal' and why the government isn't making it public.
Nissan are staying because they've been told we're staying in the single market and the customs union.
Mrs May will then announce a plethora of companies who will only stay on if we stay in both, and force the hard Brexiteers to be associated with an economic disaster.
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Sounds like wishful thinking there TSE.TheScreamingEagles said:Most interesting theory about the Nissan 'deal' and why the government isn't making it public.
Nissan are staying because they've been told we're staying in the single market and the customs union.
Mrs May will then announce a plethora of companies who will only stay on if we stay in both, and force the hard Brexiteers to be associated with an economic disaster.
I think it is much more likely we'll get a free-trade-in-goods deal, with some fudge on services - especially for banking.0 -
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Costa DiscordiaEssexit said:
SS HarambeSandyRentool said:
Sounds like Unimaginative McUnimaginativeFace twatterers.Anorak said:
Twitter seems caught between Cruisy McCruiseface and Shippy McShipface.williamglenn said:
Boozer McCruiser.Cyclefree said:
Cruisy McCruiseface.Alanbrooke said:
SS TitanicEssexit said:O/T: Do people never learn?!
https://twitter.com/pandocruises/status/791367794118057984
I'd go for Das Boot to wind up the brexiteers. Or the Margaret Thatcher just to watch half the internet explode.
SS Prison Ship is my suggestion.0 -
It's used in the maths program Mathematica to give letters from the Greek alphabet, e.g. Esc,a,Esc for α, and some other characters.Ishmael_X said:
When did ESC last actually do anything other than (in some applications) exit full screen?DecrepitJohnL said:
No escape key. But Microsoft has recently announced some very, very expensive Surface laptops aimed at the graphics market.rcs1000 said:By the way, is it my imagination or are the new MacBook Pros completely, absurdly, ridiculously expensive? Two and a half thousand pounds for the 15 inch model; that's a grand more than a similarly spec'ed Surface Book. (And that includes a free Xbox One.)
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https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/791941006375555073TheScreamingEagles said:Most interesting theory about the Nissan 'deal' and why the government isn't making it public.
Nissan are staying because they've been told we're staying in the single market and the customs union.
Mrs May will then announce a plethora of companies who will only stay on if we stay in both, and force the hard Brexiteers to be associated with an economic disaster.0 -
Are we really going to be bombing and sinking it in La Rochelle?Anorak said:
I'd go for Das Boot to wind up the brexiteers. Or the Margaret Thatcher just to watch half the internet explode.
The Margaret Thatcher would be a great choice. The ships not for turning....
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Just seen a spot of Blair on Sky News.
"We are the insurgents now."
Yes, Blair. Against democracy.0 -
Looks like the manufacturers get to march with TezzaTheScreamingEagles said:Most interesting theory about the Nissan 'deal' and why the government isn't making it public.
Nissan are staying because they've been told we're staying in the single market and the customs union.
Mrs May will then announce a plethora of companies who will only stay on if we stay in both, and force the hard Brexiteers to be associated with an economic disaster.
if only George could have done it0 -
I remove the windows key from every keyboard I buy.Dromedary said:
It's used in the maths program Mathematica to give letters from the Greek alphabet, e.g. Esc,a,Esc for α, and some other characters.Ishmael_X said:
When did ESC last actually do anything other than (in some applications) exit full screen?DecrepitJohnL said:
No escape key. But Microsoft has recently announced some very, very expensive Surface laptops aimed at the graphics market.rcs1000 said:By the way, is it my imagination or are the new MacBook Pros completely, absurdly, ridiculously expensive? Two and a half thousand pounds for the 15 inch model; that's a grand more than a similarly spec'ed Surface Book. (And that includes a free Xbox One.)
Anyone else do that ?0 -
BMG POLL
Zac Goldsmith today urged voters to send a message to Theresa May and help him fight a third runway at Heathrow— as the first poll in the Richmond Park by-election showed him clear favourite to win.
The former Tory MP would be re-elected with a majority of more than 10,000 if the vote were held now, according to the exclusive BMG Research survey for the Standard.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/zac-goldsmith-vote-for-me-to-fight-new-heathrow-runway-a3381176.html0 -
... all the way to Brussels.Alanbrooke said:Looks like the manufacturers get to march with Tezza
Huzzah! Take Back Control!0 -
If Blairs for it vote against it, Faustian bargains never work out wellMorris_Dancer said:Just seen a spot of Blair on Sky News.
"We are the insurgents now."
Yes, Blair. Against democracy.0 -
'Gotcha!'foxinsoxuk said:
General Belgrano 2 is my little contribution. Ideal for cruising the Southern Ocean...SandyRentool said:
Sounds like Unimaginative McUnimaginativeFace twatterers.Anorak said:
Twitter seems caught between Cruisy McCruiseface and Shippy McShipface.williamglenn said:
Boozer McCruiser.Cyclefree said:
Cruisy McCruiseface.Alanbrooke said:
SS TitanicEssexit said:O/T: Do people never learn?!
https://twitter.com/pandocruises/status/791367794118057984
I'd go for Das Boot to wind up the brexiteers. Or the Margaret Thatcher just to watch half the internet explode.
SS Prison Ship is my suggestion.
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you never did have a plan to rebalance the economy bar sound bites, looks like Mrs May hasScott_P said:
... all the way to Brussels.Alanbrooke said:Looks like the manufacturers get to march with Tezza
Huzzah! Take Back Control!0 -
There is little doubt there will be a free trade agreement on automotive industry. The Nissan deal is the other side of the coin from "Germany wants to sell us all those cars". The big question marks are over services, especially finance, which are Britain's USP, and agriculture, which is always an intractable trade issue.TheScreamingEagles said:Most interesting theory about the Nissan 'deal' and why the government isn't making it public.
Nissan are staying because they've been told we're staying in the single market and the customs union.
Mrs May will then announce a plethora of companies who will only stay on if we stay in both, and force the hard Brexiteers to be associated with an economic disaster.0 -
Trump today, 28 Oct (2012 results in brackets):
NH (6% D)
ME (15% D)
IA (6% D)
And 29 Oct:
CO (5% D)
AZ (9% R)
Pence today:
PA (5% D)
NC (2% D)
And 29 Oct:
NC (2% D)0 -
Senate races.weejonnie said:
Obama and Clinton rushing to support Clinton in supposedly 'safe' states (according to 619). Do they know something we don't?JackW said:
Indeed.MonikerDiCanio said:
Bill Clinton making three speeches in Pennsylvania today.JackW said:
Only because they haven't included two Clinton polls of +6 and +7 issued yesterday. RCP playing games again.MonikerDiCanio said:
Realclearpolitics moves Pennsylvania from Leans Mrs Clinton to Toss up status.JackW said:Jonathan Swan and Ben Kamisar of "Politico" struggle to find a viable Trump route to 270 :
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/303167-how-does-trump-get-to-270
http://www.politicspa.com/realclearpolitics-moves-pa-to-toss-up-status/79563/
Hillary has the nice problem of an indulgence of high profile surrogates and states to put them in supporting not only her campaign but down ballot race too as in the Pennsylvania Senate race.
Clinton has - Bill .. POTUS .. Michelle .. Keane .. Biden .. Chelsea .. Sanders .. Warren .. Gore
Trump has the missus (infrequently) and Pence. Most of the other GOP leaders aren't touching Donald with a barge poll.0 -
Single market yes, customs union probably not. Remember that goods originating from Norway are not subject to customs control despite Norway not being in the customs union.TheScreamingEagles said:Most interesting theory about the Nissan 'deal' and why the government isn't making it public.
Nissan are staying because they've been told we're staying in the single market and the customs union.
Mrs May will then announce a plethora of companies who will only stay on if we stay in both, and force the hard Brexiteers to be associated with an economic disaster.
The question is, and has always been, what measure of control on EU migration the government can achieve within the single market. I'm going for "not very much". I think by the end of 2020 we won't have tax credits and benefits will be paid on a contributory basis which will stem the flow of part time Romanian "self employed workers".
I also think over the longer term education reforms will mean a much less flexible labour market like Germany or Switzerland. That means the UK labour market will be a more like a closed shop with young people requiring qualifications to do almost anything, those without will need equivalence certification which will result in fewer arrivals.0 -
Looks like the nice people of Richmond have come to their senses and are now supporting the Brexit candidate.TheScreamingEagles said:BMG POLL
Zac Goldsmith today urged voters to send a message to Theresa May and help him fight a third runway at Heathrow— as the first poll in the Richmond Park by-election showed him clear favourite to win.
The former Tory MP would be re-elected with a majority of more than 10,000 if the vote were held now, according to the exclusive BMG Research survey for the Standard.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/zac-goldsmith-vote-for-me-to-fight-new-heathrow-runway-a3381176.html0 -
LDs winning here.TheScreamingEagles said:BMG POLL
Zac Goldsmith today urged voters to send a message to Theresa May and help him fight a third runway at Heathrow— as the first poll in the Richmond Park by-election showed him clear favourite to win.
The former Tory MP would be re-elected with a majority of more than 10,000 if the vote were held now, according to the exclusive BMG Research survey for the Standard.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/zac-goldsmith-vote-for-me-to-fight-new-heathrow-runway-a3381176.html0 -
Zac still at 1.83 on Betfair. Looks like a monster price to me.TheScreamingEagles said:BMG POLL
Zac Goldsmith today urged voters to send a message to Theresa May and help him fight a third runway at Heathrow— as the first poll in the Richmond Park by-election showed him clear favourite to win.
The former Tory MP would be re-elected with a majority of more than 10,000 if the vote were held now, according to the exclusive BMG Research survey for the Standard.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/zac-goldsmith-vote-for-me-to-fight-new-heathrow-runway-a3381176.html0 -
Give tax receipts from bankers to foreign car makers? Works great until the bankers tax receipts dry up...Alanbrooke said:you never did have a plan to rebalance the economy bar sound bites, looks like Mrs May has
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I think the most important bit of the Nissan 'deal' has been missed.Mortimer said:
Sounds like wishful thinking there TSE.TheScreamingEagles said:Most interesting theory about the Nissan 'deal' and why the government isn't making it public.
Nissan are staying because they've been told we're staying in the single market and the customs union.
Mrs May will then announce a plethora of companies who will only stay on if we stay in both, and force the hard Brexiteers to be associated with an economic disaster.
I think it is much more likely we'll get a free-trade-in-goods deal, with some fudge on services - especially for banking.
At this point, the trade situation between Europe and the UK after Brexit is in flux. No matter what the UK government promises *on it's own*, it would virtually impossible to give assurances to keep Nissan happy. Even promised to pay all import duties in the EU wouldn't do that...
"UK government promises *on it's own*"
This strongly suggests to me that as part of the pre-negotiation negotiations between the UK and the EU, some kind of basis for an agreement has been sketched out.
Something that the UK government was given permission to show to third parties such as Nissan, in confidence. There would have had to have been permission - otherwise such a disclosure would have killed the pre-negotiation negotiations.
ADDED - Thinking about it, it is extremely probable that Nissan has also been sitting down with the EU side directly. So their happiness is a function of what they heard from the EU + the UK.0 -
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Very popular locally. Farron should have been running expectations management and talking down Lib Dem chances.TheScreamingEagles said:BMG POLL
Zac Goldsmith today urged voters to send a message to Theresa May and help him fight a third runway at Heathrow— as the first poll in the Richmond Park by-election showed him clear favourite to win.
The former Tory MP would be re-elected with a majority of more than 10,000 if the vote were held now, according to the exclusive BMG Research survey for the Standard.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/zac-goldsmith-vote-for-me-to-fight-new-heathrow-runway-a3381176.html0 -
Norway is not a major part of the automotive supply chain, which is predicated on the customs union.MaxPB said:Single market yes, customs union probably not. Remember that goods originating from Norway are not subject to customs control despite Norway not being in the customs union.
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there's just the little matter of that £1 trillion support the bankers needed from us, have they stopped using it yet ?Scott_P said:
Give tax receipts from bankers to foreign car makers? Works great until the bankers tax receipts dry up...Alanbrooke said:you never did have a plan to rebalance the economy bar sound bites, looks like Mrs May has
Oh.
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