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Yes, though whether the dictator is Erdogan or a general by then remains to be seenMoses_ said:
2024 from Constantinople? Got to be in with a shout now then given recent eventsHYUFD said:
Yes, could be a strong contendor, will have to hold off Cairo and Havana though!OldKingCole said:
How about Bangkok? Generals in charge there at the moment!HYUFD said:
So future Olympics can either be held in wealthy democracies or dictatorships then? So Harare 2024? Damascus 2032? Pyongyang 2040? Rio may have been a better bet in the seventies when the generals were still in chargeEPG said:
Democracies are rubbish at making big things happen because the mob demands that money be spent on mitigating human suffering rather than concrete for foreigners to admire. I would guess that in Brazil, people do not do the will of the government, if the government merely asks them to do so. No-one had to be told to go to the Olympics in London either, but London is one of the most massively wealthy cities in the world full of unburdened young professionals looking for conspicuous experiential consumption.HYUFD said:
Indeed, China's government does at least know how to organise, unlike the present chaotic leaders in charge of BrazilJohn_M said:
Fair point. I'm only arguing for the sake of it. I would imagine the Chinese authorities could more easily say "Full attendance please, or some of you will be goat herding in Xinjiang for the next eleventy billion years".HYUFD said:Though as SeanT points out China produced an excellent games with a much lower gdp per capita than Brazil
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Now which PM had links with Ecclestone?OldKingCole said:
A post PM allegedly tried to get an F1 street race organised three or four years ago.HYUFD said:
Yes, could be a strong contendor, will have to hold off Cairo and Havana though!OldKingCole said:
How about Bangkok? Generals in charge there at the moment!HYUFD said:
So future Olympics can either be held in wealthy democracies or dictatorships then? So Harare 2024? Damascus 2032? Pyongyang 2040? Rio may have been a better bet in the seventies when the generals were still in chargeEPG said:
Democracies are rubbish at making big things happen because the mob demands that money be spent on mitigating human suffering rather than concrete for foreigners to admire. I would guess that in Brazil, people do not do the will of the government, if the government merely asks them to do so. No-one had to be told to go to the Olympics in London either, but London is one of the most massively wealthy cities in the world full of unburdened young professionals looking for conspicuous experiential consumption.HYUFD said:
Indeed, China's government does at least know how to organise, unlike the present chaotic leaders in charge of BrazilJohn_M said:
Fair point. I'm only arguing for the sake of it. I would imagine the Chinese authorities could more easily say "Full attendance please, or some of you will be goat herding in Xinjiang for the next eleventy billion years".HYUFD said:Though as SeanT points out China produced an excellent games with a much lower gdp per capita than Brazil
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Newsnight profiling a suicide bomber in Germany.
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I really like the way sky do it, when they have a big sporting event they just change one of their channels to be Sky Ryder Cup etc.MaxPB said:If the BBC are going to channel hop then they should start the following channel a minute or so earlier. It's ridiculous that they force viewers to sit through their adverts and intros all the bloody time.
Edit, or just stick the news on BBC 2.
What is also really annoying is if you watch the "main" live stream via the bbc sport website, when the tv changes channel, the bbc sport doesn't continue with the live sport, it starts showing like the news at 10. You have to refresh the stream for it to pick up the sport again.0 -
It is deeply frustrating. And made worse by a lot of empty-headed 'presenters'MaxPB said:If the BBC are going to channel hop then they should start the following channel a minute or so earlier. It's ridiculous that they force viewers to sit through their adverts and intros all the bloody time.
Edit, or just stick the news on BBC 2.
Though having listened to Radio 5 earlier this evening, it would seem that there is no talent left for their presenting team. Utterly, utterly pointless to try to do radio coverage of a shooting competition!0 -
Does it go....this bloke locally known as Dave, was a bad Muslim, and probably a bit gay, and with nothing to do with Islam, he became radicalized, but was not a terrorist?Moses_ said:Newsnight profiling a suicide bomber in Germany.
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No spoilers pleaseFrancisUrquhart said:
Does it go....this bloke locally known as Dave, was a bad Muslim, and probably a bit gay, and with nothing to do with Islam, he became radicalized, but was not a terrorist?Moses_ said:Newsnight profiling a suicide bomber in Germany.
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Not bothered with any of the "official" BBC channels, just picked and chose what to watch on the BBC via the "schedule page".
The coverage has been excellent if you're technically savvy enough to find it all (Instead of listening to Hoy and Redgrave gas about Wiggins for an hour)0 -
Sky sports have several dedicated Olympic channels covering the different sports. The guide to what on though rarely matches what they are showing. Select boxing and its horse dancing sort of thing.oxfordsimon said:
It is deeply frustrating. And made worse by a lot of empty-headed 'presenters'MaxPB said:If the BBC are going to channel hop then they should start the following channel a minute or so earlier. It's ridiculous that they force viewers to sit through their adverts and intros all the bloody time.
Edit, or just stick the news on BBC 2.
Though having listened to Radio 5 earlier this evening, it would seem that there is no talent left for their presenting team. Utterly, utterly pointless to try to do radio coverage of a shooting competition!0 -
Working for the BBC is such a prestigious job that they all should be utterly superb, right down to the continuity announcer at three o'clock in the morning on local radio. That's clearly not the case.0
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I'm not sure I can watch it. Nerves.0
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As befits a movement dedicated to reinventing democracy through new technology, it also aims to boost the youth vote by persuading the company developing Pokémon Go in Iceland to turn polling stations into Pokéstops.nunu said:0 -
Come on Wiggo!0
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Hope they don't sellout like the Polish Beer Lovers Partynunu said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Beer-Lovers'_Party0 -
Not sure we're going to get this.0
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I suspect you might be right...John_M said:
It's right up there with 'tired and emotional'.Charles said:
are you sure "inexplicable loss of form" isn't the commentators way of drawing attention to something they can't say?MaxPB said:Sometimes when the commentators talk about previous form which riders have inexplicably lost from a couple of years back I feel as though they are ignoring the elephant in the room in the shape of doping. It's obvious that some racers who were unbelievably strong a couple of years ago before the big bang of Armstrong's scandal have lost "form" because they can no longer dope their way to the top.
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GOLD!0
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Another world record gold!0
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Gold in the velodrome!!0
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So close.0
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Yea Ha!0
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But if you can't say with 100% certainty that a historic performance was drug-induced you'd be in a legal minefieldMaxPB said:
I'd prefer them to just come out and say it foe those who have had doping bans.Charles said:
are you sure "inexplicable loss of form" isn't the commentators way of drawing attention to something they can't say?MaxPB said:Sometimes when the commentators talk about previous form which riders have inexplicably lost from a couple of years back I feel as though they are ignoring the elephant in the room in the shape of doping. It's obvious that some racers who were unbelievably strong a couple of years ago before the big bang of Armstrong's scandal have lost "form" because they can no longer dope their way to the top.
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Excellent!!!0
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Jaysus. Nerves shattered. Fantastic race.0
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Puts us up to 3rd in the medal table.0
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Wow. That was too close! They pushed then hard!0
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Third in the table, ahead of Japan.....0
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Never in doubt ;-)0
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Was Sir Chris speculating on "catching" the Aussies in the pre-match build-up?0
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Never in doubt0
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Did I lip read that correctly?0
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Eh, they're sitting down foe Christ sake...SeanT said:PROPER SPORT
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Proud.0
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ThreeQuidder said:
Did I lip read that correctly?
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Woo hoo!!0
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I get the feeling that Ed Clancy and Jason Kenny may end their career ahead of Chris Hoy.0
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Did somebody say something naughty?ThreeQuidder said:Did I lip read that correctly?
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FUCK YEAH!FrancisUrquhart said:
Did somebody say something naughty?ThreeQuidder said:Did I lip read that correctly?
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Well it did rather look like one of them screamed two four letter words, the second one being "yeah"....FrancisUrquhart said:
Did somebody say something naughty?ThreeQuidder said:Did I lip read that correctly?
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I'm shaking and I'm just lying down...........imagine how they feel.......0
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Still not into these Olympics ;-)
neighbours been round to ask if I mind stop shouting!0 -
Look at that medals table. LOOK AT IT.0
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Are we actually doing better than expected, or are our gold medals front loaded?AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Look at that medals table. LOOK AT IT.
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Another gold and WR
No doubt Tyson will be along in a minute to vomit more bile.0 -
Trying to think about the athletics. We have Mr mobot, the ginger flier & the two lasses in the hepthaton. Do we have any other good chances ?RobD said:
Are we actually doing better than expected, or are our gold medals front loaded?AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Look at that medals table. LOOK AT IT.
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Jeremy Corbyn 4 PM
Tonight, you raised 100% of the funds needed for the 5 who were ruled against this afternoon. You are amazing.0 -
Five of the seven were expected, I would say.RobD said:
Are we actually doing better than expected, or are our gold medals front loaded?AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Look at that medals table. LOOK AT IT.
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And vying for the top spot in test cricket.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Look at that medals table. LOOK AT IT.
There's a breath and depth to British sport that is quite superb, and we are THE global powerhouse of cycling now.0 -
We still have a load of sailing . I believe we are currently leading in two categories.0
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Nice chart
Guess who's third in the medal table? So proud of Team GB #rio2016 #BringOnTheGreat https://t.co/r07vdeYkiO0 -
Shame the footballers are utter crud.Pulpstar said:
And vying for the top spot in test cricket.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Look at that medals table. LOOK AT IT.
There's a breath and depth to British sport that is quite superb, and we are THE global powerhouse of cycling now.0 -
Don't forget the rugby (15s). Totally transformed under Eddie Jones .0
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Dujardin/Hester in dressageFrancisUrquhart said:
Trying to think about the athletics. We have Mr mobot, the ginger flier & the two lasses in the hepthaton. Do we have any other good chances ?RobD said:
Are we actually doing better than expected, or are our gold medals front loaded?AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Look at that medals table. LOOK AT IT.
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Very true, won 3-0 away, in Aus !FrancisUrquhart said:Don't forget the rugby (15s). Totally transformed under Eddie Jones .
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Tyson probably having a meltdown if he is watching bbc one...all.those posho gold medalists in one place.0
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Amazing.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Look at that medals table. LOOK AT IT.
Indeed if we hadn't voted Brexit and achieved ever closer union then by 2024 Team EU on the present medal totals would be wiping the floor with the Yanks and the Chinese.0 -
Actually I think that is the right action to take. They shouldn't have been out of pocket for fighting for party democracy. If only the NEC had acted properly in the firs place....PlatoSaid said:Jeremy Corbyn 4 PM
Tonight, you raised 100% of the funds needed for the 5 who were ruled against this afternoon. You are amazing.0 -
The Welsh did alright!FrancisUrquhart said:
Shame the footballers are utter crud.Pulpstar said:
And vying for the top spot in test cricket.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Look at that medals table. LOOK AT IT.
There's a breath and depth to British sport that is quite superb, and we are THE global powerhouse of cycling now.0 -
tell them to fuck off!FrancisUrquhart said:Still not into these Olympics ;-)
neighbours been round to ask if I mind stop shouting!
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Of course, on a per capita per family basis, we are doing rather better than both the US and China...PlatoSaid said:Nice chart
Guess who's third in the medal table? So proud of Team GB #rio2016 #BringOnTheGreat https://t.co/r07vdeYkiO0 -
Something really satisfying about beating the Australians, can't explain it.0
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Bradley eyes closed at the anthem plays....... Can you possibly even start to imagine what's going through his mind right now?0
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The NEC did act properly, or so it has been ruled. What they may not have done is acted decently.oxfordsimon said:
Actually I think that is the right action to take. They shouldn't have been out of pocket for fighting for party democracy. If only the NEC had acted properly in the firs place....PlatoSaid said:Jeremy Corbyn 4 PM
Tonight, you raised 100% of the funds needed for the 5 who were ruled against this afternoon. You are amazing.0 -
Fuck yeah!nunu said:
tell them to fuck off!FrancisUrquhart said:Still not into these Olympics ;-)
neighbours been round to ask if I mind stop shouting!
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What's that shit looking trinket that they get? One of my cyclists definitely looked at it as if what the f##ks this shit you are giving me now.0
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I don't know what you meanAramintaMoonbeamQC said:Something really satisfying about beating the Australians, can't explain it.
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They've all been looking awkwardly at them. Kids flip flops left on the beach?FrancisUrquhart said:What's that shit looking trinket that they get? One of my cyclists definitely looked at it as if what the f##ks this shit you are giving me now.
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Chris hoy ain't let himself go after retiring has he!0
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I applaud all the athletes who win gold medals, but frankly really do not give a toss as to which country they come from. At the end of the day they are doing it for themselves!0
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He's really rather sexy.FrancisUrquhart said:Chris hoy ain't let himself go after retiring has he!
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When I first saw them I thought it was a toast rack......PlatoSaid said:
They've all been looking awkwardly at them. Kids flip flops left on the beach?FrancisUrquhart said:What's that shit looking trinket that they get? One of my cyclists definitely looked at it as if what the f##ks this shit you are giving me now.
You have to win another medal to make a pair
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Ask yourself, which one is more useful?Moses_ said:
When I first saw them I thought it was a toast rack......PlatoSaid said:
They've all been looking awkwardly at them. Kids flip flops left on the beach?FrancisUrquhart said:What's that shit looking trinket that they get? One of my cyclists definitely looked at it as if what the f##ks this shit you are giving me now.
You have to win another medal to make a pair
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You know which is going on eBay!Moses_ said:
When I first saw them I thought it was a toast rack......PlatoSaid said:
They've all been looking awkwardly at them. Kids flip flops left on the beach?FrancisUrquhart said:What's that shit looking trinket that they get? One of my cyclists definitely looked at it as if what the f##ks this shit you are giving me now.
You have to win another medal to make a pair
Gold medal and a toast rack.... Cool0 -
Nick Barlow
Amidst Wiggins' achievements: only rider to defend individual pursuit title, and first since 1936 to win gold on track and road. #Rio20160 -
Just noticed on the highlights we have a silver in the trampoline
Well done Bryony Page !!0 -
Many babies will be made tonight. That is all.0
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Just thought we still have brownlee brothers in the triathlon as well to come.0
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I think Bradley is probably a bit knackered for all that ;-)John_M said:Many babies will be made tonight. That is all.
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No flowers because they wouldn't survive the Rio climate apparently. http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sports/What-in-the-World-are-the-Olympians-Holding-389906621.htmlFrancisUrquhart said:What's that shit looking trinket that they get? One of my cyclists definitely looked at it as if what the f##ks this shit you are giving me now.
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Nick Barlow
Amidst Wiggins' achievements: only rider to defend individual pursuit title, and first since 1936 to win gold on track and road. #Rio2016
Murray in tennis, assume Mo in 5 plus 10kFrancisUrquhart said:Just thought we still have brownlee brothers in the triathlon as well to come.
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A 3d logo of the games...oh ambassador you are really spoiling us.ThreeQuidder said:
No flowers because they wouldn't survive the Rio climate apparently. http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sports/What-in-the-World-are-the-Olympians-Holding-389906621.htmlFrancisUrquhart said:What's that shit looking trinket that they get? One of my cyclists definitely looked at it as if what the f##ks this shit you are giving me now.
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Amazing how all the leaders in the 85kg weightlifting are from eastern europe/ former soviet states.0
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Nicola Adams in the boxing. Jade Jones in the taekwondo.PlatoSaid said:Nick Barlow
Amidst Wiggins' achievements: only rider to defend individual pursuit title, and first since 1936 to win gold on track and road. #Rio2016
Murray in tennis, assume Mo in 5 plus 10kFrancisUrquhart said:Just thought we still have brownlee brothers in the triathlon as well to come.
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I wonder why it is team GB can never seem to find people who are competitive in the hammer, shot, discus? We had the big lad who tried it for 2 years, got to Olympics then went off to play American football & that is about the only person we have had that was up there with the top 10 or so in the world.0
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Not my cup of tea, and hardly feels like an athletic competition, but hey, a medal is a medal. Sold out stands for it in 2012.IanB2 said:0 -
I am not sure Murray can beat Nadal (the likely final) at the moment. He is not playing at his best.PlatoSaid said:Nick Barlow
Amidst Wiggins' achievements: only rider to defend individual pursuit title, and first since 1936 to win gold on track and road. #Rio2016
Murray in tennis, assume Mo in 5 plus 10kFrancisUrquhart said:Just thought we still have brownlee brothers in the triathlon as well to come.
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I literally don't understand it. I get show jumping and the other horse events, but dancing is just weird.IanB2 said:0 -
At least their logo is better than our logo was.FrancisUrquhart said:
A 3d logo of the games...oh ambassador you are really spoiling us.ThreeQuidder said:
No flowers because they wouldn't survive the Rio climate apparently. http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sports/What-in-the-World-are-the-Olympians-Holding-389906621.htmlFrancisUrquhart said:What's that shit looking trinket that they get? One of my cyclists definitely looked at it as if what the f##ks this shit you are giving me now.
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