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Though as SeanT points out China produced an excellent games with a much lower gdp per capita than BrazilJohn_M said:
It's the usual problem with headline stats. GDP per capita is back at 2010 levels in a country with ~9% inflation. A lot of of very poor folk in Brazil.HYUFD said:
Maybe but given there are 195 countries in the world, 8th out of 195 makes it a pretty rich country to me, even if rather closer to average on gdp per capita termsJohn_M said:
It used to be sixth and has been in recession since 2014.HYUFD said:
Brazil is the 8th largest economy in the worldfoxinsoxuk said:SeanT said:
I was in that crowd! It's the only thing I got tickets for, apart from one women's football event - (France versus Japan at Wembley, also sold out and also brilliant atmosphere)kle4 said:
I'd forgotten there were jam packed stands. For the horse dancing.SeanT said:
That's incredible. The differencePlatoSaid said:
htps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urMEKrFW9IcSimonStClare said:
Watching now – virtually empty, even the seats designated for the press is less than half full.PlatoSaid said:
Can't get over all the empty seats - so disappointing.Pulpstar said:
They should change the dressage scoring system a bit tbh, monstrously loud aids by the germans compared to Carl Hester say.PlatoSaid said:My what a gorgeous gg ridden by Fiona Bigwood.
For anyone interested, this is an interesting piece on Viking horses and their unusual style
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/the-prized-ambling-gait-originated-in-york-as-study-traces-gene/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
What a difference from Greenwich Hospital and the superb view across the Thames to Canary.
I think Rio has largely organised it well and the venues look fine. Brazil is not a rich country and had a 4% decline in GDP this year, and that is the fundamental problem. The Brazil World Cup in 2014 was one of the best ever, but that was a single sport.
I can see the need for it to move around the world, but Olympic bids are very expensive and usually leave behind a poisonous financial legacy. We should not expect ever increasing shows if we want anyone other than G7 countries hosting.
I cannot see Britain hosting another for a few decades, but if a quick alternative for a 2018 or 2022 World Cup was needed then we could easily step into the breach.0 -
Incomes in Brazil aren't as high as in London but the ticket prices are similar.
What am I saying - let us get SeanT about it. London in 2012 was almost at the peak of its 30-year frothy bubble which burst in June. It was and is chocked full of the global top 1% and 0.1% who burn money on a weekly basis on things like secret cinemas, Harrods and cereal cafés, and 2012 was in retrospect part of a blessedly optimistic era - it didn't seem so at the time - before Charlie Hebdo, the Bataclan, MH17, baby-deformity-conferring mosquitoes, or the undeniability of pervasive corruption in sport - only the threat of riots to keep people away.0 -
Skynunu said:why are we so good at cycling I would've thought the Dutch and other Europeans would be better.
Though some success in track cycling started well before them, they've turned some success on the track into ?4? Tour de France titles.
I wonder how much could be put down to Boardman and Obree (who rode some of the time on a bike he made himself, I think including parts from a washing machine).0 -
Fair point. I'm only arguing for the sake of it. I would imagine the Chinese authorities could more easily say "Full attendance please, or some of you will be goat herding in Xinjiang for the next eleventy billion years".HYUFD said:
Though as SeanT points out China produced an excellent games with a much lower gdp per capita than BrazilJohn_M said:
It's the usual problem with headline stats. GDP per capita is back at 2010 levels in a country with ~9% inflation. A lot of of very poor folk in Brazil.HYUFD said:
Maybe but given there are 195 countries in the world, 8th out of 195 makes it a pretty rich country to me, even if rather closer to average on gdp per capita termsJohn_M said:
It used to be sixth and has been in recession since 2014.HYUFD said:
Brazil is the 8th largest economy in the worldfoxinsoxuk said:SeanT said:
I was in that crowd! It's the only thing I got tickets for, apart from one women's football event - (France versus Japan at Wembley, also sold out and also brilliant atmosphere)kle4 said:
I'd forgotten there were jam packed stands. For the horse dancing.SeanT said:
That's incredible. The differencePlatoSaid said:
htps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urMEKrFW9IcSimonStClare said:
Watching now – virtually empty, even the seats designated for the press is less than half full.PlatoSaid said:
Can't get over all the empty seats - so disappointing.Pulpstar said:
They should change the dressage scoring system a bit tbh, monstrously loud aids by the germans compared to Carl Hester say.PlatoSaid said:My what a gorgeous gg ridden by Fiona Bigwood.
For anyone interested, this is an interesting piece on Viking horses and their unusual style
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/the-prized-ambling-gait-originated-in-york-as-study-traces-gene/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
What a difference from Greenwich Hospital and the superb view across the Thames to Canary.
I think Rio has largely organised it well and the venues look fine. Brazil is not a rich country and had a 4% decline in GDP this year, and that is the fundamental problem. The Brazil World Cup in 2014 was one of the best ever, but that was a single sport.
I cannot see Britain hosting another for a few decades, but if a quick alternative for a 2018 or 2022 World Cup was needed then we could easily step into the breach.0 -
Yes the best bit of the opening ceremony was the mock flight by the actor playing Santos Dumont over Rio, by the statue of Christ the Redeemer and towards the beaches and islands, spectacular!SeanT said:
One thing that has struck me is the sheer beauty of Rio. I had no idea it was such a stunning topography. All those islands.HYUFD said:
Indeed, after two outstanding games we were due a poor one though I think Brazil has been unlucky in that itSeanT said:
Brazil is a developing country, but its GDP per capita is TWICE that of China's. TWICE. And the Brazilian economy is large, as you say.HYUFD said:
Maybe but gJohn_M said:
It used to be sixth and has been in recession since 2014.HYUFD said:
Brazil is the 8th largest economy in the worldfoxinsoxuk said:
I sa.SeanT said:
I was in that crowd! It's the only thing I got tickets for, apart from one women's football event - (France versus Japan at Wembley, also sold outkle4 said:
I'd forgotten there were jam packed stands. For the horse dancing.SeanT said:
That's incredible. The differencePlatoSaid said:
htps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urMEKrFW9IcSimonStClare said:
Watching now – virtually empty, even the seats designated for the press is less than half full.PlatoSaid said:
What a difference from Greenwich Hospital and the superb view across the Thames to Canary.
I cannot see Britain hosting ano
They should be able to organise a decent Games and, given their huge population, they should be able to guarantee packed stadia
This is embarrassing. It just goes to show what an achievement Beijing was for a poor nation (in per capita terms) and what an achievement London was (in terms of attendance, enthusiasm, ambience - and legacy)
Rio is basically one of the two world cities I've never seen, along with Beijing. I am now determined to see it.0 -
the Chinese lapped lol.0
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I don't know why but the old verve song the drugs don't work comes to mind.....nunu said:the Chinese lapped lol.
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I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.PlatoSaid said:
Looking like a silver in a sailing event - just waiting confirmationSeanT said:On the other hand, one more gold and we leapfrog Japan into THIRD
Which is pretty bloody incredible for a nation of just 65m people
Come on Wiggins, Athletics, Murray and most of all Boxing GB. Some medals are worth loads more than others.0 -
Show me on this dolly where the nasty Tory touched you.tyson said:
I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.PlatoSaid said:
Looking like a silver in a sailing event - just waiting confirmationSeanT said:On the other hand, one more gold and we leapfrog Japan into THIRD
Which is pretty bloody incredible for a nation of just 65m people
Come on Wiggins, Athletics, Murray and most of all Boxing GB. Some medals are worth loads more than others.0 -
John_M said:HYUFD said:John_M said:HYUFD said:John_M said:HYUFD said:foxinsoxuk said:SeanT said:kle4 said:
I think I remember some suspicion of some of the spectators- as they were wearing the same uniform caps or something.SeanT said:
Fair point. I'm only arguing for the sake of it. I would imagine the Chinese authorities could more easily say "Full attendance please, or some of you will be goat herding in Xinjiang for the next eleventy billion years".PlatoSaid said:SimonStClare said:
Watching now – virtually empty, even the seats designated for the press is less than half full.PlatoSaid said:
Can't get over all the empty seats - so disappointing.Pulpstar said:
They should change the dressage scoring system a bit tbh, monstrously loud aids by the germans compared to Carl Hester say.PlatoSaid said:My what a gorgeous gg ridden by Fiona Bigwood.
For anyone interested, this is an interesting piece on Viking horses and their unusual style
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/the-prized-ambling-gait-originated-in-york-as-study-traces-gene/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
What a difference from Greenwich Hospital and the superb view across the Thames to Canary.
Though as SeanT points out China produced an excellent games with a much lower gdp per capita than Brazil0 -
Not at all, apparently more than usual booing is just a part of unique atmosphere. Don't forget there are six types of booing, including booing for funSeanT said:
From what I've read this evening, the Rio crowds have apparently been shocking - when they HAVE turned up. Booing and abusive, and shouting "Zika!" at women they don't like. Nice.Pulpstar said:Rio's big problem is that it isn't really that safe a city, is miles from anywhere and Brazilians couldn't really give a hoot about anything that their own aren't in.
And outside of football, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_at_the_Olympics that ain't all that much.
It's South Africa with the bloody World Cup and the vuvuzelas all over again.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-37026844
Re reading the article I feel the opening was written by someone other than the main bits, since it opens stating that the level of noise from booing has been higher than other Games, then tries to excuse it later by saying its nothing new, despite the premise of the article being the amount of it (if not the existence of it) is in fact new.0 -
Do cyclists need to drop out of the team pursuit? The Denmark riders were all over the place at the end and not in a line. Does this matter?0
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Because we view cycling primarily as a sport, whereas they view it primarily as a means for getting from A to B? That's certainly the case in Germany - see all the bikes parked outside train stations.nunu said:why are we so good at cycling I would've thought the Dutch and other Europeans would be better.
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The Tory sevens xDtyson said:
I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.PlatoSaid said:
Looking like a silver in a sailing event - just waiting confirmationSeanT said:On the other hand, one more gold and we leapfrog Japan into THIRD
Which is pretty bloody incredible for a nation of just 65m people
Come on Wiggins, Athletics, Murray and most of all Boxing GB. Some medals are worth loads more than others.0 -
Are Athletics medals won by public school Tories still worth winning though?tyson said:
I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.PlatoSaid said:
Looking like a silver in a sailing event - just waiting confirmationSeanT said:On the other hand, one more gold and we leapfrog Japan into THIRD
Which is pretty bloody incredible for a nation of just 65m people
Come on Wiggins, Athletics, Murray and most of all Boxing GB. Some medals are worth loads more than others.0 -
I can honestly say I have never considered consumer rights protection before selecting a holiday destination!John_M said:
I love the analyst's comments though. It is but a foreshadowing of the doom ahead. On investment plans:SeanT said:Anyone in sunny London right now will know this is true. The city is chocka, fit to bursting, with foreign tourists. Never known it so packed.
"Number of foreign visitors to Britain jumps 18% in the month after the Brexit vote"
"Luxury hotels are also reporting an uptick in visitor numbers: Claridge’s and The Connaught say they had “the best ever July on record""
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4186fb3c-5efa-11e6-bb77-a121aa8abd95.html#axzz4H8tay0I6
“The main concerns they have are about maintaining the arrangements that facilitate travel — open skies, soft checks for visas, EU drivers licence, health cards, consumer rights protection — many of which may cease to exist once Brexit is complete.”
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I see Hammond is pledging to match EU cash for farmers, scientists etc until 2020. Might reduce the bleating for a while.0
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Not all showjumpers are wealthy, the ES had piece this week about one whose father was a builder and mother a secretary on the Isle of Wight. Of course most sailors, riders and rowers cannot hope to get anywhere near the $5 million a year Andy Murray makestyson said:
I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.PlatoSaid said:
Looking like a silver in a sailing event - just waiting confirmationSeanT said:On the other hand, one more gold and we leapfrog Japan into THIRD
Which is pretty bloody incredible for a nation of just 65m people
Come on Wiggins, Athletics, Murray and most of all Boxing GB. Some medals are worth loads more than others.0 -
Indeed, China's government does at least know how to organise, unlike the present chaotic leaders in charge of BrazilJohn_M said:
Fair point. I'm only arguing for the sake of it. I would imagine the Chinese authorities could more easily say "Full attendance please, or some of you will be goat herding in Xinjiang for the next eleventy billion years".HYUFD said:
Though as SeanT points out China produced an excellent games with a much lower gdp per capita than BrazilJohn_M said:
It's the usual problem with headline stats. GDP per capita is back at 2010 levels in a country with ~9% inflation. A lot of of very poor folk in Brazil.HYUFD said:
Maybe but given there are 195 countries in the world, 8th out of 195 makes it a pretty rich country to me, even if rather closer to average on gdp per capita termsJohn_M said:
It used to be sixth and has been in recession since 2014.HYUFD said:
Brazil is the 8th largest economy in the worldfoxinsoxuk said:SeanT said:
I was in that crowd! It's the only thing I got tickets for, apart from one women's football event - (France versus Japan at Wembley, also sold out and also brilliant atmosphere)kle4 said:
I'd forgotten there were jam packed stands. For the horse dancing.SeanT said:
That's incredible. The differencePlatoSaid said:
htps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urMEKrFW9IcSimonStClare said:
Watching now – virtually empty, even the seats designated for the press is less than half full.PlatoSaid said:
Can't get over all the empty seats - so disappointing.Pulpstar said:
They should change the dressage scoring system a bit tbh, monstrously loud aids by the germans compared to Carl Hester say.PlatoSaid said:My what a gorgeous gg ridden by Fiona Bigwood.
For anyone interested, this is an interesting piece on Viking horses and their unusual style
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/the-prized-ambling-gait-originated-in-york-as-study-traces-gene/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
What a difference from Greenwich Hospital and the superb view across the Thames to Canary.
I cannot see Britain hosting another for a few decades, but if a quick alternative for a 2018 or 2022 World Cup was needed then we could easily step into the breach.0 -
And another WR in team pursuit0
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Another world record
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The time is taken off the third to cross the line so if one is struggling near the end he can drop out.PlatoSaid said:Do cyclists need to drop out of the team pursuit? The Denmark riders were all over the place at the end and not in a line. Does this matter?
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I hope they haven't overcooked it in the team penny-farthing. Biggest concern is Wiggins is the weak link.0
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Ah! Got it nowThreeQuidder said:
The time is taken off the third to cross the line so if one is struggling near the end he can drop out.PlatoSaid said:Do cyclists need to drop out of the team pursuit? The Denmark riders were all over the place at the end and not in a line. Does this matter?
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You may not have, but it might be a consideration for someone who has been saving for ages for a holiday to e.g. Greece as to whether they have a chance of a refund it turns out to be crap!Charles said:
I can honestly say I have never considered consumer rights protection before selecting a holiday destination!John_M said:
I love the analyst's comments though. It is but a foreshadowing of the doom ahead. On investment plans:SeanT said:Anyone in sunny London right now will know this is true. The city is chocka, fit to bursting, with foreign tourists. Never known it so packed.
"Number of foreign visitors to Britain jumps 18% in the month after the Brexit vote"
"Luxury hotels are also reporting an uptick in visitor numbers: Claridge’s and The Connaught say they had “the best ever July on record""
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4186fb3c-5efa-11e6-bb77-a121aa8abd95.html#axzz4H8tay0I6
“The main concerns they have are about maintaining the arrangements that facilitate travel — open skies, soft checks for visas, EU drivers licence, health cards, consumer rights protection — many of which may cease to exist once Brexit is complete.”0 -
The thing that bothers me is how lazy these concerns are. A US visitor can drive on a US license for up to a year, and that applies to the majority of countries (per the gov.uk website). We have visa free/voa/vol agreements with 175 countries. The idea that we're going to abolish consumer rights on Brexit is just fucking stupid. The only reason open skies would be an issue is if the EU decides to make it an issue.Charles said:
I can honestly say I have never considered consumer rights protection before selecting a holiday destination!John_M said:
I love the analyst's comments though. It is but a foreshadowing of the doom ahead. On investment plans:SeanT said:Anyone in sunny London right now will know this is true. The city is chocka, fit to bursting, with foreign tourists. Never known it so packed.
"Number of foreign visitors to Britain jumps 18% in the month after the Brexit vote"
"Luxury hotels are also reporting an uptick in visitor numbers: Claridge’s and The Connaught say they had “the best ever July on record""
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4186fb3c-5efa-11e6-bb77-a121aa8abd95.html#axzz4H8tay0I6
“The main concerns they have are about maintaining the arrangements that facilitate travel — open skies, soft checks for visas, EU drivers licence, health cards, consumer rights protection — many of which may cease to exist once Brexit is complete.”0 -
How about Oscars?kle4 said:
Are Athletics medals won by public school Tories still worth winning though?tyson said:
I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.PlatoSaid said:
Looking like a silver in a sailing event - just waiting confirmationSeanT said:On the other hand, one more gold and we leapfrog Japan into THIRD
Which is pretty bloody incredible for a nation of just 65m people
Come on Wiggins, Athletics, Murray and most of all Boxing GB. Some medals are worth loads more than others.0 -
That depends if they deride their Etonian upbringing or not.Charles said:
How about Oscars?kle4 said:
Are Athletics medals won by public school Tories still worth winning though?tyson said:
I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.PlatoSaid said:
Looking like a silver in a sailing event - just waiting confirmationSeanT said:On the other hand, one more gold and we leapfrog Japan into THIRD
Which is pretty bloody incredible for a nation of just 65m people
Come on Wiggins, Athletics, Murray and most of all Boxing GB. Some medals are worth loads more than others.0 -
HYUFD said:
Not all showjumpers are wealthy, the ES had piece this week about one whose father was a builder and mother a secretary on the Isle of Wight. Of course most sailors, riders and rowers cannot hope to get anywhere near the $5 million a year Andy Murray makestyson said:
I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.PlatoSaid said:
Looking like a silver in a sailing event - just waiting confirmationSeanT said:On the other hand, one more gold and we leapfrog Japan into THIRD
Which is pretty bloody incredible for a nation of just 65m people
Come on Wiggins, Athletics, Murray and most of all Boxing GB. Some medals are worth loads more than others.
There's one thing worse than the blue blooded Tory horse and hound (add rowing, sailing and rugger) brigade. And that is the sad fuckers who aspire to their lifestyle.
Come on Wiggins, Trott, and Murray, Jessica, Farah. Peaty and our boxers.0 -
Labour are the nasty party now.John_M said:
Show me on this dolly where the nasty Tory touched you.tyson said:
I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.PlatoSaid said:
Looking like a silver in a sailing event - just waiting confirmationSeanT said:On the other hand, one more gold and we leapfrog Japan into THIRD
Which is pretty bloody incredible for a nation of just 65m people
Come on Wiggins, Athletics, Murray and most of all Boxing GB. Some medals are worth loads more than others.0 -
ATOL protected should workFeersumEnjineeya said:
You may not have, but it might be a consideration for someone who has been saving for ages for a holiday to e.g. Greece as to whether they have a chance of a refund it turns out to be crap!Charles said:
I can honestly say I have never considered consumer rights protection before selecting a holiday destination!John_M said:
I love the analyst's comments though. It is but a foreshadowing of the doom ahead. On investment plans:SeanT said:Anyone in sunny London right now will know this is true. The city is chocka, fit to bursting, with foreign tourists. Never known it so packed.
"Number of foreign visitors to Britain jumps 18% in the month after the Brexit vote"
"Luxury hotels are also reporting an uptick in visitor numbers: Claridge’s and The Connaught say they had “the best ever July on record""
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4186fb3c-5efa-11e6-bb77-a121aa8abd95.html#axzz4H8tay0I6
“The main concerns they have are about maintaining the arrangements that facilitate travel — open skies, soft checks for visas, EU drivers licence, health cards, consumer rights protection — many of which may cease to exist once Brexit is complete.”
(Although if it's just crap then it's caveat emptor)0 -
The summer of 1913 all over again.SeanT said:Brexit, sunshine, Labour meltdown, and TORY TEAM GB SUPREME.
A fine summer indeed.0 -
I've always thought professional cyclists seemed pretty posh, with all that specialist equipment and fancy velodromes, seems like the sort of sport only rich people get into. Running, Jumping, feats of strength, that's proper sport. Also Cricket (I give it a pass on the poshness because unlike cycling I enjoy it).tyson said:HYUFD said:
Not all showjumpers are wealthy, the ES had piece this week about one whose father was a builder and mother a secretary on the Isle of Wight. Of course most sailors, riders and rowers cannot hope to get anywhere near the $5 million a year Andy Murray makestyson said:
I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.PlatoSaid said:
Looking like a silver in a sailing event - just waiting confirmationSeanT said:On the other hand, one more gold and we leapfrog Japan into THIRD
Which is pretty bloody incredible for a nation of just 65m people
Come on Wiggins, Athletics, Murray and most of all Boxing GB. Some medals are worth loads more than others.
There's one thing worse than the blue blooded Tory horse and hound (add rowing, saying and rugger) brigade. And that is the sad fuckers who aspire to their lifestyle.
Come on Wiggins, Trott, and Murray, Jessica, Farah. Peaty and our boxers.0 -
Ultimately we seem to manage to host the other 168 countries' visitors. I'm sure we'll struggle through the challenges of adding 27 more to the list.Charles said:
ATOL protected should workFeersumEnjineeya said:
You may not have, but it might be a consideration for someone who has been saving for ages for a holiday to e.g. Greece as to whether they have a chance of a refund it turns out to be crap!Charles said:
I can honestly say I have never considered consumer rights protection before selecting a holiday destination!John_M said:
I love the analyst's comments though. It is but a foreshadowing of the doom ahead. On investment plans:SeanT said:Anyone in sunny London right now will know this is true. The city is chocka, fit to bursting, with foreign tourists. Never known it so packed.
"Number of foreign visitors to Britain jumps 18% in the month after the Brexit vote"
"Luxury hotels are also reporting an uptick in visitor numbers: Claridge’s and The Connaught say they had “the best ever July on record""
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4186fb3c-5efa-11e6-bb77-a121aa8abd95.html#axzz4H8tay0I6
“The main concerns they have are about maintaining the arrangements that facilitate travel — open skies, soft checks for visas, EU drivers licence, health cards, consumer rights protection — many of which may cease to exist once Brexit is complete.”
(Although if it's just crap then it's caveat emptor)0 -
You really are just a bitter twisted excuse for a humantyson said:
I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.PlatoSaid said:
Looking like a silver in a sailing event - just waiting confirmationSeanT said:On the other hand, one more gold and we leapfrog Japan into THIRD
Which is pretty bloody incredible for a nation of just 65m people
Come on Wiggins, Athletics, Murray and most of all Boxing GB. Some medals are worth loads more than others.
Why don't you just do one.0 -
The time gets taken from the third rider to cross the line. So for efficiency it's best to have on rider absolutely give their all and then peel off before the end.PlatoSaid said:Do cyclists need to drop out of the team pursuit? The Denmark riders were all over the place at the end and not in a line. Does this matter?
Denmark screwed up by breaking the line, cycling in someone's slipstream is much less effort for the same speed.0 -
If course we will.John_M said:
Ultimately we seem to manage to host the other 168 countries' visitors. I'm sure we'll struggle through the challenges of adding 27 more to the list.Charles said:
ATOL protected should workFeersumEnjineeya said:
You may not have, but it might be a consideration for someone who has been saving for ages for a holiday to e.g. Greece as to whether they have a chance of a refund it turns out to be crap!Charles said:
I can honestly say I have never considered consumer rights protection before selecting a holiday destination!John_M said:
I love the analyst's comments though. It is but a foreshadowing of the doom ahead. On investment plans:SeanT said:Anyone in sunny London right now will know this is true. The city is chocka, fit to bursting, with foreign tourists. Never known it so packed.
"Number of foreign visitors to Britain jumps 18% in the month after the Brexit vote"
"Luxury hotels are also reporting an uptick in visitor numbers: Claridge’s and The Connaught say they had “the best ever July on record""
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4186fb3c-5efa-11e6-bb77-a121aa8abd95.html#axzz4H8tay0I6
“The main concerns they have are about maintaining the arrangements that facilitate travel — open skies, soft checks for visas, EU drivers licence, health cards, consumer rights protection — many of which may cease to exist once Brexit is complete.”
(Although if it's just crap then it's caveat emptor)0 -
Paul Kirkby
World resized by how much money countries receive from international tourism
@howmuch_net https://t.co/1y0lBGj9pK https://t.co/194LeLbql70 -
sometimes I feel sorry for the Labour party then when I read post's like that I remember how tribal and nasty the left is - and I think bring on two decades of tory rule. Hahahahah.SeanT said:
Hehtyson said:
I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.PlatoSaid said:
Looking like a silver in a sailing event - just waiting confirmationSeanT said:On the other hand, one more gold and we leapfrog Japan into THIRD
Which is pretty bloody incredible for a nation of just 65m people
Come on Wiggins, Athletics, Murray and most of all Boxing GB. Some medals are worth loads more than others.0 -
God just seen the pictures of the lasses doing the high jump in the hepthaton...I've seen more people at my local village fete!0
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Democracies are rubbish at making big things happen because the mob demands that money be spent on mitigating human suffering rather than concrete for foreigners to admire. I would guess that in Brazil, people do not do the will of the government, if the government merely asks them to do so. No-one had to be told to go to the Olympics in London either, but London is one of the most massively wealthy cities in the world full of unburdened young professionals looking for conspicuous experiential consumption.HYUFD said:
Indeed, China's government does at least know how to organise, unlike the present chaotic leaders in charge of BrazilJohn_M said:
Fair point. I'm only arguing for the sake of it. I would imagine the Chinese authorities could more easily say "Full attendance please, or some of you will be goat herding in Xinjiang for the next eleventy billion years".HYUFD said:Though as SeanT points out China produced an excellent games with a much lower gdp per capita than Brazil
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On a point of fact I think the 7s wasn't that public school dominated (in relative terms).Pulpstar said:
The Tory sevens xDtyson said:
I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.PlatoSaid said:
Looking like a silver in a sailing event - just waiting confirmationSeanT said:On the other hand, one more gold and we leapfrog Japan into THIRD
Which is pretty bloody incredible for a nation of just 65m people
Come on Wiggins, Athletics, Murray and most of all Boxing GB. Some medals are worth loads more than others.0 -
I'd forgotten UKIP were still tearing chunks off each other. In Wales too.
A UKIP colleague of Nathan Gill has criticised the party's Welsh leader's record of participation in the Senedd.
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China vs Russia in the womens spirit final...who has the better drugs?0
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Tory wannabes in that case.corporeal said:
On a point of fact I think the 7s wasn't that public school dominated (in relative terms).Pulpstar said:
The Tory sevens xDtyson said:
I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.PlatoSaid said:
Looking like a silver in a sailing event - just waiting confirmationSeanT said:On the other hand, one more gold and we leapfrog Japan into THIRD
Which is pretty bloody incredible for a nation of just 65m people
Come on Wiggins, Athletics, Murray and most of all Boxing GB. Some medals are worth loads more than others.0 -
So if Corbyn ever becomes PM (god help us) does that mean when he has the reception for Olympic winners they would have to have passed the toffometer first? Will anyone who looks remotely Tory and upper middle class or went to a public school be refused entry as their gold medals don't count as they were won on the backs of the proletariat?tyson said:HYUFD said:
Not all showjumpers are wealthy, the ES had piece this week about one whose father was a builder and mother a secretary on the Isle of Wight. Of course most sailors, riders and rowers cannot hope to get anywhere near the $5 million a year Andy Murray makestyson said:
I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.PlatoSaid said:
Looking like a silver in a sailing event - just waiting confirmationSeanT said:On the other hand, one more gold and we leapfrog Japan into THIRD
Which is pretty bloody incredible for a nation of just 65m people
Come on Wiggins, Athletics, Murray and most of all Boxing GB. Some medals are worth loads more than others.
There's one thing worse than the blue blooded Tory horse and hound (add rowing, sailing and rugger) brigade. And that is the sad fuckers who aspire to their lifestyle.
Come on Wiggins, Trott, and Murray, Jessica, Farah. Peaty and our boxers.0 -
Does Britain doing well in the Olympics equate to the correctness of Brexit?0
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I would guess from the Brazilian national anthem that they don't give a f*ck about what other countries think of them: "... Brazil, a dream sublime, vivid ray of love and hope to earth descends, Where in your clear, pure, beauteous skies"... etc etc0
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See you next Tuesday.tyson said:
I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.PlatoSaid said:
Looking like a silver in a sailing event - just waiting confirmationSeanT said:On the other hand, one more gold and we leapfrog Japan into THIRD
Which is pretty bloody incredible for a nation of just 65m people
Come on Wiggins, Athletics, Murray and most of all Boxing GB. Some medals are worth loads more than others.0 -
Nice.0
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So future Olympics can either be held in wealthy democracies or dictatorships then? So Harare 2024? Damascus 2032? Pyongyang 2040? Rio may have been a better bet in the seventies when the generals were still in chargeEPG said:
Democracies are rubbish at making big things happen because the mob demands that money be spent on mitigating human suffering rather than concrete for foreigners to admire. I would guess that in Brazil, people do not do the will of the government, if the government merely asks them to do so. No-one had to be told to go to the Olympics in London either, but London is one of the most massively wealthy cities in the world full of unburdened young professionals looking for conspicuous experiential consumption.HYUFD said:
Indeed, China's government does at least know how to organise, unlike the present chaotic leaders in charge of BrazilJohn_M said:
Fair point. I'm only arguing for the sake of it. I would imagine the Chinese authorities could more easily say "Full attendance please, or some of you will be goat herding in Xinjiang for the next eleventy billion years".HYUFD said:Though as SeanT points out China produced an excellent games with a much lower gdp per capita than Brazil
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Indeed.nunu said:
sometimes I feel sorry for the Labour party then when I read post's like that I remember how tribal and nasty the left is - and I think bring on two decades of tory rule. Hahahahah.SeanT said:
Hehtyson said:
I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.PlatoSaid said:
Looking like a silver in a sailing event - just waiting confirmationSeanT said:On the other hand, one more gold and we leapfrog Japan into THIRD
Which is pretty bloody incredible for a nation of just 65m people
Come on Wiggins, Athletics, Murray and most of all Boxing GB. Some medals are worth loads more than others.
It is a fantastic time to be a Tory. When Labour crops up in everyday conversation it is almost certainly a criticism of them.
The UK is trending Tory and with any luck we will not see a Labour government for decades.0 -
One things for certain if it was Pyongyang the opening and closing ceremonies would put all others in the shade.HYUFD said:
So future Olympics can either be held in wealthy democracies or dictatorships then? So Harare 2024? Damascus 2032? Pyongyang 2040?EPG said:
Democracies are rubbish at making big things happen because the mob demands that money be spent on mitigating human suffering rather than concrete for foreigners to admire. I would guess that in Brazil, people do not do the will of the government, if the government merely asks them to do so. No-one had to be told to go to the Olympics in London either, but London is one of the most massively wealthy cities in the world full of unburdened young professionals looking for conspicuous experiential consumption.HYUFD said:
Indeed, China's government does at least know how to organise, unlike the present chaotic leaders in charge of BrazilJohn_M said:
Fair point. I'm only arguing for the sake of it. I would imagine the Chinese authorities could more easily say "Full attendance please, or some of you will be goat herding in Xinjiang for the next eleventy billion years".HYUFD said:Though as SeanT points out China produced an excellent games with a much lower gdp per capita than Brazil
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Both British lads had the after burners on there.0
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Tyson thinks Chariots of Fire was a documentary.SeanT said:
Hehtyson said:HYUFD said:
Not all showjumpers are wealthy, the ES had piece this week about one whose father was a builder and mother a secretary on the Isle of Wight. Of course most sailors, riders and rowers cannot hope to get anywhere near the $5 million a year Andy Murray makestyson said:
I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.PlatoSaid said:
Looking like a silver in a sailing event - just waiting confirmationSeanT said:On the other hand, one more gold and we leapfrog Japan into THIRD
Which is pretty bloody incredible for a nation of just 65m people
Come on Wiggins, Athletics, Murray and most of all Boxing GB. Some medals are worth loads more than others.
There's one thing worse than the blue blooded Tory horse and hound (add rowing, sailing and rugger) brigade. And that is the sad fuckers who aspire to their lifestyle.
Come on Wiggins, Trott, and Murray, Jessica, Farah. Peaty and our boxers. 0 -
How about Bangkok? Generals in charge there at the moment!HYUFD said:
So future Olympics can either be held in wealthy democracies or dictatorships then? So Harare 2024? Damascus 2032? Pyongyang 2040? Rio may have been a better bet in the seventies when the generals were still in chargeEPG said:
Democracies are rubbish at making big things happen because the mob demands that money be spent on mitigating human suffering rather than concrete for foreigners to admire. I would guess that in Brazil, people do not do the will of the government, if the government merely asks them to do so. No-one had to be told to go to the Olympics in London either, but London is one of the most massively wealthy cities in the world full of unburdened young professionals looking for conspicuous experiential consumption.HYUFD said:
Indeed, China's government does at least know how to organise, unlike the present chaotic leaders in charge of BrazilJohn_M said:
Fair point. I'm only arguing for the sake of it. I would imagine the Chinese authorities could more easily say "Full attendance please, or some of you will be goat herding in Xinjiang for the next eleventy billion years".HYUFD said:Though as SeanT points out China produced an excellent games with a much lower gdp per capita than Brazil
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You mean it wasn't?SimonStClare said:
Tyson thinks Chariots of Fire was a documentary.SeanT said:
Hehtyson said:HYUFD said:
Not all showjumpers are wealthy, the ES had piece this week about one whose father was a builder and mother a secretary on the Isle of Wight. Of course most sailors, riders and rowers cannot hope to get anywhere near the $5 million a year Andy Murray makestyson said:
I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.PlatoSaid said:
Looking like a silver in a sailing event - just waiting confirmationSeanT said:On the other hand, one more gold and we leapfrog Japan into THIRD
Which is pretty bloody incredible for a nation of just 65m people
Come on Wiggins, Athletics, Murray and most of all Boxing GB. Some medals are worth loads more than others.
There's one thing worse than the blue blooded Tory horse and hound (add rowing, sailing and rugger) brigade. And that is the sad fuckers who aspire to their lifestyle.
Come on Wiggins, Trott, and Murray, Jessica, Farah. Peaty and our boxers.0 -
Well of course. Perfection or else death tends to produce excellence!Moses_ said:
One things for certain if it was Pyongyang the opening and closing ceremonies would put all others in the shade.HYUFD said:
So future Olympics can either be held in wealthy democracies or dictatorships then? So Harare 2024? Damascus 2032? Pyongyang 2040?EPG said:
Democracies are rubbish at making big things happen because the mob demands that money be spent on mitigating human suffering rather than concrete for foreigners to admire. I would guess that in Brazil, people do not do the will of the government, if the government merely asks them to do so. No-one had to be told to go to the Olympics in London either, but London is one of the most massively wealthy cities in the world full of unburdened young professionals looking for conspicuous experiential consumption.HYUFD said:
Indeed, China's government does at least know how to organise, unlike the present chaotic leaders in charge of BrazilJohn_M said:
Fair point. I'm only arguing for the sake of it. I would imagine the Chinese authorities could more easily say "Full attendance please, or some of you will be goat herding in Xinjiang for the next eleventy billion years".HYUFD said:Though as SeanT points out China produced an excellent games with a much lower gdp per capita than Brazil
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Silver in the windsurfing0
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You can add golf to the latter list. Despite the image of the sport, none of GB's four golfing Olympians come from particularly privileged backgrounds.tyson said:
I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.PlatoSaid said:
Looking like a silver in a sailing event - just waiting confirmationSeanT said:On the other hand, one more gold and we leapfrog Japan into THIRD
Which is pretty bloody incredible for a nation of just 65m people
Come on Wiggins, Athletics, Murray and most of all Boxing GB. Some medals are worth loads more than others.0 -
what time is Bradleys final?0
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Ah yes indeed.kle4 said:
Well of course. Perfection or else death tends to produce excellence!Moses_ said:
One things for certain if it was Pyongyang the opening and closing ceremonies would put all others in the shade.HYUFD said:
So future Olympics can either be held in wealthy democracies or dictatorships then? So Harare 2024? Damascus 2032? Pyongyang 2040?EPG said:
Democracies are rubbish at making big things happen because the mob demands that money be spent on mitigating human suffering rather than concrete for foreigners to admire. I would guess that in Brazil, people do not do the will of the government, if the government merely asks them to do so. No-one had to be told to go to the Olympics in London either, but London is one of the most massively wealthy cities in the world full of unburdened young professionals looking for conspicuous experiential consumption.HYUFD said:
Indeed, China's government does at least know how to organise, unlike the present chaotic leaders in charge of BrazilJohn_M said:
Fair point. I'm only arguing for the sake of it. I would imagine the Chinese authorities could more easily say "Full attendance please, or some of you will be goat herding in Xinjiang for the next eleventy billion years".HYUFD said:Though as SeanT points out China produced an excellent games with a much lower gdp per capita than Brazil
Anyway for beer lovers everywhere.....North Korea's Pyongyang hosts first beer festival
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/12/north-koreas-pyongyang-hosts-first-beer-festival/0 -
Sky News
A federal judge has overturned the conviction of a prisoner featured on Making a Murderer https://t.co/lk9v6y4hKR0 -
Team GB really surpassing my expectations... having tagged them spursy on day 3.
Anyone still need the link to PB fantasy premier league for tomorrow just ask. Last I looked we had 14 which is great...0 -
About 11pmnunu said:what time is Bradleys final?
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I couldnt get into that show. I found "serial" far more interesting because the guy found guilty was a super interesting.PlatoSaid said:Sky News
A federal judge has overturned the conviction of a prisoner featured on Making a Murderer https://t.co/lk9v6y4hKR0 -
That Beer has a British connection to my hometown.Moses_ said:
Ah yes indeed.kle4 said:
Well of course. Perfection or else death tends to produce excellence!Moses_ said:
One things for certain if it was Pyongyang the opening and closing ceremonies would put all others in the shade.HYUFD said:
So future Olympics can either be held in wealthy democracies or dictatorships then? So Harare 2024? Damascus 2032? Pyongyang 2040?EPG said:
Democracies are rubbish at making big things happen because the mob demands that money be spent on mitigating human suffering rather than concrete for foreigners to admire. I would guess that in Brazil, people do not do the will of the government, if the government merely asks them to do so. No-one had to be told to go to the Olympics in London either, but London is one of the most massively wealthy cities in the world full of unburdened young professionals looking for conspicuous experiential consumption.HYUFD said:
Indeed, China's government does at least know how to organise, unlike the present chaotic leaders in charge of BrazilJohn_M said:
Fair point. I'm only arguing for the sake of it. I would imagine the Chinese authorities could more easily say "Full attendance please, or some of you will be goat herding in Xinjiang for the next eleventy billion years".HYUFD said:Though as SeanT points out China produced an excellent games with a much lower gdp per capita than Brazil
Anyway for beer lovers everywhere.....North Korea's Pyongyang hosts first beer festival
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/12/north-koreas-pyongyang-hosts-first-beer-festival/
http://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/4475589.How_Ushers__Trowbridge_brewery_is_now_the_toast_of_North_Korea/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8115677.stm0 -
Balding mentioned the velodrome capacity was just 3k. The London one is 6k.0
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Sometimes when the commentators talk about previous form which riders have inexplicably lost from a couple of years back I feel as though they are ignoring the elephant in the room in the shape of doping. It's obvious that some racers who were unbelievably strong a couple of years ago before the big bang of Armstrong's scandal have lost "form" because they can no longer dope their way to the top.0
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Given the noise sounds like 2k of those are Brits.PlatoSaid said:Balding mentioned the velodrome capacity was just 3k. The London one is 6k.
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Oh I was glued and watched in one sitting. All nightFrancisUrquhart said:
I couldnt get into that show. I found "serial" far more interesting because the guy found guilty was a super interesting.PlatoSaid said:Sky News
A federal judge has overturned the conviction of a prisoner featured on Making a Murderer https://t.co/lk9v6y4hKR0 -
Ladbrokes have cut the odds of Trump being replaced as Republican candidate from 6\1 to 5\1.0
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In ufc (MMA) they brought in proper dug testing about 2 years ago & the difference in the bodies of the fighters is chalk and cheese.MaxPB said:Sometimes when the commentators talk about previous form which riders have inexplicably lost from a couple of years back I feel as though they are ignoring the elephant in the room in the shape of doping. It's obvious that some racers who were unbelievably strong a couple of years ago before the big bang of Armstrong's scandal have lost "form" because they can no longer dope their way to the top.
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Chinese helmets are great0
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Have you listened to serial?PlatoSaid said:
Oh I was glued and watched in one sitting. All nightFrancisUrquhart said:
I couldnt get into that show. I found "serial" far more interesting because the guy found guilty was a super interesting.PlatoSaid said:Sky News
A federal judge has overturned the conviction of a prisoner featured on Making a Murderer https://t.co/lk9v6y4hKR0 -
Interesting to note that given the poor attendance at many of the other venues that velodrome looks close to full.0
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Yep - back Pence for POTUS on Betfair as a better proxy for this.MaxPB said:
Free money for Shadsy!Dromedary said:Ladbrokes have cut the odds of Trump being replaced as Republican candidate from 6\1 to 5\1.
It's not an exact proxy but 5-1 is very very short, Pence was 1000.0 on Betfair. Think he is still around 900 or so.0 -
Haven't come across that, can you point me to a linky?FrancisUrquhart said:
Have you listened to serial?PlatoSaid said:
Oh I was glued and watched in one sitting. All nightFrancisUrquhart said:
I couldnt get into that show. I found "serial" far more interesting because the guy found guilty was a super interesting.PlatoSaid said:Sky News
A federal judge has overturned the conviction of a prisoner featured on Making a Murderer https://t.co/lk9v6y4hKR0 -
But surely the Toffometer would block Jez himself and they'd have to cancel the reception? Thus solving the problem!HYUFD said:
So if Corbyn ever becomes PM (god help us) does that mean when he has the reception for Olympic winners they would have to have passed the toffometer first? Will anyone who looks remotely Tory and upper middle class or went to a public school be refused entry as their gold medals don't count as they were won on the backs of the proletariat?tyson said:HYUFD said:
Not all showjumpers are wealthy, the ES had piece this week about one whose father was a builder and mother a secretary on the Isle of Wight. Of course most sailors, riders and rowers cannot hope to get anywhere near the $5 million a year Andy Murray makestyson said:
I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.PlatoSaid said:
Looking like a silver in a sailing event - just waiting confirmationSeanT said:On the other hand, one more gold and we leapfrog Japan into THIRD
Which is pretty bloody incredible for a nation of just 65m people
Come on Wiggins, Athletics, Murray and most of all Boxing GB. Some medals are worth loads more than others.
There's one thing worse than the blue blooded Tory horse and hound (add rowing, sailing and rugger) brigade. And that is the sad fuckers who aspire to their lifestyle.
Come on Wiggins, Trott, and Murray, Jessica, Farah. Peaty and our boxers.0 -
Look on iTunes (it's free)...it is the most downloaded podcast ever. Something crazy like 40 million downloads.PlatoSaid said:
Haven't come across that, can you point me to a linky?FrancisUrquhart said:
Have you listened to serial?PlatoSaid said:
Oh I was glued and watched in one sitting. All nightFrancisUrquhart said:
I couldnt get into that show. I found "serial" far more interesting because the guy found guilty was a super interesting.PlatoSaid said:Sky News
A federal judge has overturned the conviction of a prisoner featured on Making a Murderer https://t.co/lk9v6y4hKR
I don't want to say too much as it will spoil it, other than to say it true story looking into the case of a guy convicted of killing his girlfriend in high school...and was told week by week as the reporter looked into the case, and each week chased down leads she found and discovered by listeners.
The "story telling" is just fantastic and the phone conversations with the convicted killer are just so fascinating.
Edit:- You want season 1....not season 2.0 -
Yes, could be a strong contendor, will have to hold off Cairo and Havana though!OldKingCole said:
How about Bangkok? Generals in charge there at the moment!HYUFD said:
So future Olympics can either be held in wealthy democracies or dictatorships then? So Harare 2024? Damascus 2032? Pyongyang 2040? Rio may have been a better bet in the seventies when the generals were still in chargeEPG said:
Democracies are rubbish at making big things happen because the mob demands that money be spent on mitigating human suffering rather than concrete for foreigners to admire. I would guess that in Brazil, people do not do the will of the government, if the government merely asks them to do so. No-one had to be told to go to the Olympics in London either, but London is one of the most massively wealthy cities in the world full of unburdened young professionals looking for conspicuous experiential consumption.HYUFD said:
Indeed, China's government does at least know how to organise, unlike the present chaotic leaders in charge of BrazilJohn_M said:
Fair point. I'm only arguing for the sake of it. I would imagine the Chinese authorities could more easily say "Full attendance please, or some of you will be goat herding in Xinjiang for the next eleventy billion years".HYUFD said:Though as SeanT points out China produced an excellent games with a much lower gdp per capita than Brazil
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are you sure "inexplicable loss of form" isn't the commentators way of drawing attention to something they can't say?MaxPB said:Sometimes when the commentators talk about previous form which riders have inexplicably lost from a couple of years back I feel as though they are ignoring the elephant in the room in the shape of doping. It's obvious that some racers who were unbelievably strong a couple of years ago before the big bang of Armstrong's scandal have lost "form" because they can no longer dope their way to the top.
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@tyson
'I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.'
Chippy's come our from under his stone.0 -
Certainly if you were a performer and Kim Jong Un felt you were not up to standard you may find yourself permanently in the shade!Moses_ said:
One things for certain if it was Pyongyang the opening and closing ceremonies would put all others in the shade.HYUFD said:
So future Olympics can either be held in wealthy democracies or dictatorships then? So Harare 2024? Damascus 2032? Pyongyang 2040?EPG said:
Democracies are rubbish at making big things happen because the mob demands that money be spent on mitigating human suffering rather than concrete for foreigners to admire. I would guess that in Brazil, people do not do the will of the government, if the government merely asks them to do so. No-one had to be told to go to the Olympics in London either, but London is one of the most massively wealthy cities in the world full of unburdened young professionals looking for conspicuous experiential consumption.HYUFD said:
Indeed, China's government does at least know how to organise, unlike the present chaotic leaders in charge of BrazilJohn_M said:
Fair point. I'm only arguing for the sake of it. I would imagine the Chinese authorities could more easily say "Full attendance please, or some of you will be goat herding in Xinjiang for the next eleventy billion years".HYUFD said:Though as SeanT points out China produced an excellent games with a much lower gdp per capita than Brazil
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That's very interesting. I hove from Bath and I remember that Brewery even got a tour and a freebie in the onsite bar. It here was a huge bottling factory across the road from it and the old bus station used to be there as well. It's a Sainsburys now of course where the bottling plant was.kle4 said:
That Beer has a British connection to my hometown.Moses_ said:
Ah yes indeed.kle4 said:
Well of course. Perfection or else death tends to produce excellence!Moses_ said:
One things for certain if it was Pyongyang the opening and closing ceremonies would put all others in the shade.HYUFD said:
So future Olympics can either be held in wealthy democracies or dictatorships then? So Harare 2024? Damascus 2032? Pyongyang 2040?EPG said:
Democracies are rubbish at making big things happen because the mob demands that money be spent on mitigating human suffering rather than concrete for foreigners to admire. I would guess that in Brazil, people do not do the will of the government, if the government merely asks them to do so. No-one had to be told to go to the Olympics in London either, but London is one of the most massively wealthy cities in the world full of unburdened young professionals looking for conspicuous experiential consumption.HYUFD said:
Indeed, China's government does at least know how to organise, unlike the present chaotic leaders in charge of BrazilJohn_M said:
Fair point. I'm only arguing for the sake of it. I would imagine the Chinese authorities could more easily say "Full attendance please, or some of you will be goat herding in Xinjiang for the next eleventy billion years".HYUFD said:Though as SeanT points out China produced an excellent games with a much lower gdp per capita than Brazil
Anyway for beer lovers everywhere.....North Korea's Pyongyang hosts first beer festival
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/12/north-koreas-pyongyang-hosts-first-beer-festival/
http://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/4475589.How_Ushers__Trowbridge_brewery_is_now_the_toast_of_North_Korea/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8115677.stm
That buying a brewery and shipping internationally happened in Bristol as well. They shipped that one to Russia.
Personally I am a Wadworth fan myself and 6X . Always been a fan of Bath rugby of course.
Interesting fact. Waddworths in Devizes is the only brewery that still delivers beer to the local pubs using horse and dray.0 -
Whoever said socialists were logical!ydoethur said:
But surely the Toffometer would block Jez himself and they'd have to cancel the reception? Thus solving the problem!HYUFD said:
So if Corbyn ever becomes PM (god help us) does that mean when he has the reception for Olympic winners they would have to have passed the toffometer first? Will anyone who looks remotely Tory and upper middle class or went to a public school be refused entry as their gold medals don't count as they were won on the backs of the proletariat?tyson said:HYUFD said:
Not all showjumpers are wealthy, the ES had piece this week about one whose father was a builder and mother a secretary on the Isle of Wight. Of course most sailors, riders and rowers cannot hope to get anywhere near the $5 million a year Andy Murray makestyson said:
I'm hoping we capsize. There is nothing more depressing than watching rich English public school Tories winning sailing, riding, and rowing medals at the Olympic games. Fantastic to see Fiji demolish our public school boy Tory 7's.PlatoSaid said:
Looking like a silver in a sailing event - just waiting confirmationSeanT said:On the other hand, one more gold and we leapfrog Japan into THIRD
Which is pretty bloody incredible for a nation of just 65m people
Come on Wiggins, Athletics, Murray and most of all Boxing GB. Some medals are worth loads more than others.
There's one thing worse than the blue blooded Tory horse and hound (add rowing, sailing and rugger) brigade. And that is the sad fuckers who aspire to their lifestyle.
Come on Wiggins, Trott, and Murray, Jessica, Farah. Peaty and our boxers.0 -
It's right up there with 'tired and emotional'.Charles said:
are you sure "inexplicable loss of form" isn't the commentators way of drawing attention to something they can't say?MaxPB said:Sometimes when the commentators talk about previous form which riders have inexplicably lost from a couple of years back I feel as though they are ignoring the elephant in the room in the shape of doping. It's obvious that some racers who were unbelievably strong a couple of years ago before the big bang of Armstrong's scandal have lost "form" because they can no longer dope their way to the top.
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A post PM allegedly tried to get an F1 street race organised three or four years ago.HYUFD said:
Yes, could be a strong contendor, will have to hold off Cairo and Havana though!OldKingCole said:
How about Bangkok? Generals in charge there at the moment!HYUFD said:
So future Olympics can either be held in wealthy democracies or dictatorships then? So Harare 2024? Damascus 2032? Pyongyang 2040? Rio may have been a better bet in the seventies when the generals were still in chargeEPG said:
Democracies are rubbish at making big things happen because the mob demands that money be spent on mitigating human suffering rather than concrete for foreigners to admire. I would guess that in Brazil, people do not do the will of the government, if the government merely asks them to do so. No-one had to be told to go to the Olympics in London either, but London is one of the most massively wealthy cities in the world full of unburdened young professionals looking for conspicuous experiential consumption.HYUFD said:
Indeed, China's government does at least know how to organise, unlike the present chaotic leaders in charge of BrazilJohn_M said:
Fair point. I'm only arguing for the sake of it. I would imagine the Chinese authorities could more easily say "Full attendance please, or some of you will be goat herding in Xinjiang for the next eleventy billion years".HYUFD said:Though as SeanT points out China produced an excellent games with a much lower gdp per capita than Brazil
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I'd prefer them to just come out and say it foe those who have had doping bans.Charles said:
are you sure "inexplicable loss of form" isn't the commentators way of drawing attention to something they can't say?MaxPB said:Sometimes when the commentators talk about previous form which riders have inexplicably lost from a couple of years back I feel as though they are ignoring the elephant in the room in the shape of doping. It's obvious that some racers who were unbelievably strong a couple of years ago before the big bang of Armstrong's scandal have lost "form" because they can no longer dope their way to the top.
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2024 from Constantinople? Got to be in with a shout now then given recent eventsHYUFD said:
Yes, could be a strong contendor, will have to hold off Cairo and Havana though!OldKingCole said:
How about Bangkok? Generals in charge there at the moment!HYUFD said:
So future Olympics can either be held in wealthy democracies or dictatorships then? So Harare 2024? Damascus 2032? Pyongyang 2040? Rio may have been a better bet in the seventies when the generals were still in chargeEPG said:
Democracies are rubbish at making big things happen because the mob demands that money be spent on mitigating human suffering rather than concrete for foreigners to admire. I would guess that in Brazil, people do not do the will of the government, if the government merely asks them to do so. No-one had to be told to go to the Olympics in London either, but London is one of the most massively wealthy cities in the world full of unburdened young professionals looking for conspicuous experiential consumption.HYUFD said:
Indeed, China's government does at least know how to organise, unlike the present chaotic leaders in charge of BrazilJohn_M said:
Fair point. I'm only arguing for the sake of it. I would imagine the Chinese authorities could more easily say "Full attendance please, or some of you will be goat herding in Xinjiang for the next eleventy billion years".HYUFD said:Though as SeanT points out China produced an excellent games with a much lower gdp per capita than Brazil
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Sadly it had closed by the time I grew up in my very brief phase of drinking, although the smell of hops would often float over the school playground quite pleasantly.Moses_ said:
That's very interesting. I hove from Bath and I remember that Brewery even got a tour and a freebie in the onsite bar.kle4 said:
That Beer has a British connection to my hometown.Moses_ said:
Ah yes indeed.kle4 said:
Well of course. Perfection or else death tends to produce excellence!Moses_ said:
One things for certain if it was Pyongyang the opening and closing ceremonies would put all others in the shade.HYUFD said:
So future Olympics can either be held in wealthy democracies or dictatorships then? So Harare 2024? Damascus 2032? Pyongyang 2040?EPG said:
Democracies are rubbish at making big things happen because the mob demands that money be spent on mitigating human suffering rather than concrete for foreigners to admire. I would guess that in Brazil, people do not do the will of the government, if the government merely asks them to do so. No-one had to be told to go to the Olympics in London either, but London is one of the most massively wealthy cities in the world full of unburdened young professionals looking for conspicuous experiential consumption.HYUFD said:
Indeed, China's government does at least know how to organise, unlike the present chaotic leaders in charge of BrazilJohn_M said:
Fair point. I'm only arguing for the sake of it. I would imagine the Chinese authorities could more easily say "Full attendance please, or some of you will be goat herding in Xinjiang for the next eleventy billion years".HYUFD said:Though as SeanT points out China produced an excellent games with a much lower gdp per capita than Brazil
Anyway for beer lovers everywhere.....North Korea's Pyongyang hosts first beer festival
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/12/north-koreas-pyongyang-hosts-first-beer-festival/
http://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/4475589.How_Ushers__Trowbridge_brewery_is_now_the_toast_of_North_Korea/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8115677.stm0 -
If the BBC are going to channel hop then they should start the following channel a minute or so earlier. It's ridiculous that they force viewers to sit through their adverts and intros all the bloody time.
Edit, or just stick the news on BBC 2.0 -
CaptainAde
BBC One: Hello and...
BBC Two: Welcome to...
BBC One: The Olympics...
BBC Two: Here at...
BBC One: Rio de...
BBC Two: Janeiro
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Yes I do remember that hops smell as well and also Bowyers and the smell of freshly cooked pies..... My granny lived on the outskirts of Trowbridge hence I regularly visitedkle4 said:
Sadly it had closed by the time I grew up in my very brief phase of drinking, although the smell of hops would often float over the school playground quite pleasantly.Moses_ said:
That's very interesting. I hove from Bath and I remember that Brewery even got a tour and a freebie in the onsite bar.kle4 said:
That Beer has a British connection to my hometown.Moses_ said:
Ah yes indeed.kle4 said:
Well of course. Perfection or else death tends to produce excellence!Moses_ said:
One things for certain if it was Pyongyang the opening and closing ceremonies would put all others in the shade.HYUFD said:
So future Olympics can either be held in wealthy democracies or dictatorships then? So Harare 2024? Damascus 2032? Pyongyang 2040?EPG said:
Democracies are rubbish at making big things happen because the mob demands that money be spent on mitigating human suffering rather than concrete for foreigners to admire. I would guess that in Brazil, people do not do the will of the government, if the government merely asks them to do so. No-one had to be told to go to the Olympics in London either, but London is one of the most massively wealthy cities in the world full of unburdened young professionals looking for conspicuous experiential consumption.HYUFD said:
Indeed, China's government does at least know how to organise, unlike the present chaotic leaders in charge of BrazilJohn_M said:
Fair point. I'm only arguing for the sake of it. I would imagine the Chinese authorities could more easily say "Full attendance please, or some of you will be goat herding in Xinjiang for the next eleventy billion years".HYUFD said:Though as SeanT points out China produced an excellent games with a much lower gdp per capita than Brazil
Anyway for beer lovers everywhere.....North Korea's Pyongyang hosts first beer festival
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/12/north-koreas-pyongyang-hosts-first-beer-festival/
http://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/4475589.How_Ushers__Trowbridge_brewery_is_now_the_toast_of_North_Korea/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8115677.stm0
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