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And yet you show no indication of doing so.Toms said:Very good Mr. Meeks. I agree completely.
As for most of our politics this country is essentially bifurcated, for instance exemplified by the 1st few comments on this thread.
Sadly, lacking rigour, this referendum has split us into those who are right and those who're wrong.
And those who're wrong should carry a few cans.0 -
OK, fair enough, we agree to bear the brunt of tax rises or spending cuts, if they are required. Whether or not they are required, however, will largely be the result of the policy decisions taken between now and whenever we leave the EU, and most probably the few years immediately following formal Brexit. Consequently, as it will be us taking the economic hit, it needs to be us making the decisions; pro-Remain members of the government, as well senior members of the civil service and the Bank of England, must either stand aside, or explicitly renounce their Remainerism and agree to be counted among the Leave voters who will pay the price if it all fails.
What would be intolerable is such a scheme under the current regime (particularly the Governor of the B of E), which has every incentive to punish us, and to make the process of leaving appear shambolic and costly. Until then, it must be recalled that the 52% have almost no influence on policy and very few representatives among senior policy makers, and as such cannot be considered responsible for everything that happens going forward.0 -
You'd be punishing the beneficiaries of their estates actually. Who are mostly young.Sean_F said:
But, they mostly voted Remain, so you'd be punishing the wrong people. It's poorer people that you want to be punishing.TheKrakenAwakes said:The idea of making those who voted for Brexit appeals to me although maybe a more subtle approach will be required.
After all, the elderly population who voted for those pesky EU migrants to go home will be paying a far greater price than just the loss of their "triple-lock", by virtue of the fact that they will no longer have their daily visits from their Lithuanian care-worker or the nice lady with the accent who calls every evening to put them to bed, as they've all buggered off back home.
Maybe a hike in inheritance tax would be more appropriate to take advantage of the increased number of wealthy old bigots popping their clogs during the winter while their dependents and their families are off on their Alpine ski-ing holidays.
Maybe that would be appropriate after all. The young mostly supported remain but couldn't be arsed to vote. It might be a lesson to them to get off their lazy backsides next time.0 -
The Telegraph has gone massively down the toilet in the last few years. The redesign of their website just made it so much worse.GeoffM said:
I'm not a subscriber any longer, either online or paper.Scott_P said:
I already posted the Telegraph article, and I made it through (while PMSL)GeoffM said:Consider if it had been an equally unbalanced article from the other side of the river.
There may still be a copy at my club so I will look there after work. Thanks for the tip.0 -
As we lost, in some ill-defined manner, the article doesn't put the onus on us.GeoffM said:
And yet you show no indication of doing so.Toms said:Very good Mr. Meeks. I agree completely.
As for most of our politics this country is essentially bifurcated, for instance exemplified by the 1st few comments on this thread.
Sadly, lacking rigour, this referendum has split us into those who are right and those who're wrong.
And those who're wrong should carry a few cans.0 -
Those who are wrong, of course, already lost. By definition.Toms said:Very good Mr. Meeks. I agree completely.
As for most of our politics this country is essentially bifurcated, for instance exemplified by the 1st few comments on this thread.
Sadly, lacking rigour, this referendum has split us into those who are right and those who're wrong.
And those who're wrong should carry a few cans.0 -
Quite the silliest header ever!
Should we tax the working class most heavily to pay for any spending Labour might promise?
Undermining the result and punishing those that voted for it isn't democratic in any sense.0 -
The affects of inheritance tax are not felt by the "Weathly old bigots" as you call them. They are felt by the younger generations who will see the State confiscating the gift from Granny that lets them buy their first home.TheKrakenAwakes said:Maybe a hike in inheritance tax would be more appropriate to take advantage of the increased number of wealthy old bigots popping their clogs during the winter while their dependents and their families are off on their Alpine ski-ing holidays.
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Busy todaySean_F said:
They'd probably have voted Leave, though, if they'd survived to the present day.PlatoSaid said:SkyNews
59-year-old man arrested over the sectarian murder of 10 Protestant workers at Kingsmill in Northern Ireland https://t.co/fFIsoBpBXO
SkyNews
Police in Northern Ireland have uncovered a significant dissident republican arms dump in #Lurgan & are dealing with fully constructed bomb0 -
Welcome to pb.com, Mr. Bayliss.0
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If the majority is always right then we should do away with parliament and just have plebiscites on everything.ThreeQuidder said:
Those who are wrong, of course, already lost. By definition.Toms said:Very good Mr. Meeks. I agree completely.
As for most of our politics this country is essentially bifurcated, for instance exemplified by the 1st few comments on this thread.
Sadly, lacking rigour, this referendum has split us into those who are right and those who're wrong.
And those who're wrong should carry a few cans.0 -
http://order-order.com/2016/08/05/telegraphs-viewed-story-crank-doomsday-video/RobD said:
The Telegraph has gone massively down the toilet in the last few years. The redesign of their website just made it so much worse.GeoffM said:
I'm not a subscriber any longer, either online or paper.Scott_P said:
I already posted the Telegraph article, and I made it through (while PMSL)GeoffM said:Consider if it had been an equally unbalanced article from the other side of the river.
There may still be a copy at my club so I will look there after work. Thanks for the tip.0 -
How many overs did England bowl between lunch and tea? 20? I'd be asking for my money back.0
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I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Remainers get to have the red passport, but with 12 stars instead of the lions on the front. However it does allow you to still work and live and move round anywhere in Europe. It has "European union" on the front.
This would reflect both the leave group's need for "sovereignty" and the remain's group desire to still be able to enjoy all their freedoms pre-Brexit (Whilst acknowledging that a remain vote would have meant ever closer union).
A fair compromise !0 -
Such a radical idea would need to be endorsed by the people in a referendum.williamglenn said:
If the majority is always right then we should do away with parliament and just have plebiscites on everything.ThreeQuidder said:
Those who are wrong, of course, already lost. By definition.Toms said:Very good Mr. Meeks. I agree completely.
As for most of our politics this country is essentially bifurcated, for instance exemplified by the 1st few comments on this thread.
Sadly, lacking rigour, this referendum has split us into those who are right and those who're wrong.
And those who're wrong should carry a few cans.0 -
For constitutional questions, certainly.williamglenn said:
If the majority is always right then we should do away with parliament and just have plebiscites on everything.ThreeQuidder said:
Those who are wrong, of course, already lost. By definition.Toms said:Very good Mr. Meeks. I agree completely.
As for most of our politics this country is essentially bifurcated, for instance exemplified by the 1st few comments on this thread.
Sadly, lacking rigour, this referendum has split us into those who are right and those who're wrong.
And those who're wrong should carry a few cans.0 -
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Yep, 20 overs. Was 116 at Lunch and 136 at Tea.FrankBooth said:How many overs did England bowl between lunch and tea? 20? I'd be asking for my money back.
44 ovs tonight for England's batsmen, if they don't stop early.0 -
https://twitter.com/mrdavidwhitley/status/761572757373067264Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.0 -
Captain Cook doing the best to destroy my position (Was on Pakistan at the change at ~ 6-4) daren't look at the odds now !Sandpit said:
Yep, 20 overs. Was 116 at Lunch and 136 at Tea.FrankBooth said:How many overs did England bowl between lunch and tea? 20? I'd be asking for my money back.
Serves me right for being such a heathen
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Ah yes THIS is what people voted Brexit for !Scott_P said:
https://twitter.com/mrdavidwhitley/status/761572757373067264Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.0 -
Perhaps we should have a law like Logan's Run and euthanise the old.Sean_F said:
They'd probably have voted Leave, though, if they'd survived to the present day.PlatoSaid said:SkyNews
59-year-old man arrested over the sectarian murder of 10 Protestant workers at Kingsmill in Northern Ireland https://t.co/fFIsoBpBXO0 -
We will probably talk about it all day today here on PB.PlatoSaid said:
Busy todaySean_F said:
They'd probably have voted Leave, though, if they'd survived to the present day.PlatoSaid said:SkyNews
59-year-old man arrested over the sectarian murder of 10 Protestant workers at Kingsmill in Northern Ireland https://t.co/fFIsoBpBXO
SkyNews
Police in Northern Ireland have uncovered a significant dissident republican arms dump in #Lurgan & are dealing with fully constructed bomb
Pity I wanted to twist the knife on Owen Smith.
Team Corbyn are now pleading with Smith to say in the race :
https://twitter.com/LabourEoin/status/761346789584896000
"Please don't drop out, we are having such fun beating you"0 -
Presumably, there'd have to be extra taxes on white people, who voted 53/47 Leave.0
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That's as good a definition of "wrong" as any these days I guess. And, mind you, the banks are now talking about charging just to keep our money, so logic appears to, um, be malleable.ThreeQuidder said:
Those who are wrong, of course, already lost. By definition.Toms said:Very good Mr. Meeks. I agree completely.
As for most of our politics this country is essentially bifurcated, for instance exemplified by the 1st few comments on this thread.
Sadly, lacking rigour, this referendum has split us into those who are right and those who're wrong.
And those who're wrong should carry a few cans.0 -
We could be the first country to introduce paperless passports and then just have an option in the app to change between patriotic blue and European burgundy.0
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I'm not keen on the old UK passport, far too many French words on the front of it. I'm English not French.Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Remainers get to have the red passport, but with 12 stars instead of the lions on the front. However it does allow you to still work and live and move round anywhere in Europe. It has "European union" on the front.
This would reflect both the leave group's need for "sovereignty" and the remain's group desire to still be able to enjoy all their freedoms pre-Brexit (Whilst acknowledging that a remain vote would have meant ever closer union).
A fair compromise !
You don't get that nonsense on the red EU passport.
By God it's my right not to have French words on the front of my passport0 -
How can they get away with that?Sandpit said:
Yep, 20 overs. Was 116 at Lunch and 136 at Tea.FrankBooth said:How many overs did England bowl between lunch and tea? 20? I'd be asking for my money back.
44 ovs tonight for England's batsmen, if they don't stop early.0 -
Burgundy looks better than blue I think.Pulpstar said:
Ah yes THIS is what people voted Brexit for !Scott_P said:
https://twitter.com/mrdavidwhitley/status/761572757373067264Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Couldn't they keep the previous colour ?0 -
Mr. Glenn, and for those of us unencumbered by a mobile telephone?0
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You'd think they'd at least get rid of the French slogan.Pulpstar said:
Ah yes THIS is what people voted Brexit for !Scott_P said:
https://twitter.com/mrdavidwhitley/status/761572757373067264Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.0 -
Can we have interest / mortgage rate increases and house prices decreases for 'Remainers' as they promised us.
Apart from that a great tantrum from Vapid bilge.0 -
"Honi" is of course not proper French any more(!)TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm not keen on the old UK passport, far too many French words on the front of it. I'm English not French.Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Remainers get to have the red passport, but with 12 stars instead of the lions on the front. However it does allow you to still work and live and move round anywhere in Europe. It has "European union" on the front.
This would reflect both the leave group's need for "sovereignty" and the remain's group desire to still be able to enjoy all their freedoms pre-Brexit (Whilst acknowledging that a remain vote would have meant ever closer union).
A fair compromise !
You don't get that nonsense on the red EU passport.
By God it's my right not to have French words on the front of my passport0 -
You mean the current color, this is just the Sun's campaign, not an official announcement (we haven't left yet, for starters)Speedy said:
Burgundy looks better than blue I think.Pulpstar said:
Ah yes THIS is what people voted Brexit for !Scott_P said:
twitter.com/mrdavidwhitley/status/761572757373067264Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Couldn't they keep the previous colour ?0 -
General Election
A few anomalies when YOUGOV try to predict what the don't knows will do
https://t.co/NeUG9DHcfY
Your thoughts are welcome0 -
A whole load of vapid bilge.0
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Plenty of french words inside the EU passport (although I think that's convention rather than being in the EU)!TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm not keen on the old UK passport, far too many French words on the front of it. I'm English not French.Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Remainers get to have the red passport, but with 12 stars instead of the lions on the front. However it does allow you to still work and live and move round anywhere in Europe. It has "European union" on the front.
This would reflect both the leave group's need for "sovereignty" and the remain's group desire to still be able to enjoy all their freedoms pre-Brexit (Whilst acknowledging that a remain vote would have meant ever closer union).
A fair compromise !
You don't get that nonsense on the red EU passport.
By God it's my right not to have French words on the front of my passport0 -
What about "Quim"?TheWhiteRabbit said:
"Honi" is of course not proper French any more(!)TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm not keen on the old UK passport, far too many French words on the front of it. I'm English not French.Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Remainers get to have the red passport, but with 12 stars instead of the lions on the front. However it does allow you to still work and live and move round anywhere in Europe. It has "European union" on the front.
This would reflect both the leave group's need for "sovereignty" and the remain's group desire to still be able to enjoy all their freedoms pre-Brexit (Whilst acknowledging that a remain vote would have meant ever closer union).
A fair compromise !
You don't get that nonsense on the red EU passport.
By God it's my right not to have French words on the front of my passport0 -
Oh, those words are still on the current style passport, in the coat of arms.SandyRentool said:
What about "Quim"?TheWhiteRabbit said:
"Honi" is of course not proper French any more(!)TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm not keen on the old UK passport, far too many French words on the front of it. I'm English not French.Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Remainers get to have the red passport, but with 12 stars instead of the lions on the front. However it does allow you to still work and live and move round anywhere in Europe. It has "European union" on the front.
This would reflect both the leave group's need for "sovereignty" and the remain's group desire to still be able to enjoy all their freedoms pre-Brexit (Whilst acknowledging that a remain vote would have meant ever closer union).
A fair compromise !
You don't get that nonsense on the red EU passport.
By God it's my right not to have French words on the front of my passport0 -
To date, Leavers have shown no interest in those of us who voted Remain, telling us alternately to “suck it up, losers”, to stop talking down Britain whenever we note with dismay that all the economic indicators are making honking noises or to stop standing on the sidelines and make Leave work
I, for one, have urged Remainers and SoftBrexiteers to work together to ensure what I perceive to be the better option, which is a lighter rather than Hard Brexit. Which you reference in some leavers attempting to 'co-opt' remainers. Which makes you insistence leavers have shown no interest in those who voted remain contradictory to mere paragraphs before.
And while it is impossible not to agree that immigration was a key concern for many, that a disagreeable immigration settlement must happen because of the vote is logically unsound, because even as much as the vote itself was advisory (if politically impossible to ignore), the vote did not specify that such a deal must happen, no matter how many times you insist it did. So the need to press ahead with a negative immigration deal is, like Brexit itself, dependent on politics, and while it is a key concern for many, it is a much easier one to slide on to some degree.
I happen to think we will get a harder deal on immigration than some softleavers would like, but the idea it must happen is pure nonsense, no different to the idea that as Leave won we should have a Leaver PM. It's just a question of if there is political will to try to slide on that aspect of Brexit. There probably will not be, but it is a much more achievable aim than the die hard remainers who, unlike you, have not accepted Brexit.0 -
Excellent article. Why should my family suffer for Brexit? Anyone who voted leave? Fuck them.
There's obviously no plan even now. Get rid of the triple lock immediately.
Batten down the hatches and prepare for a rocky 10 years.0 -
Norman French, right? La Reyne le veult.williamglenn said:
You'd think they'd at least get rid of the French slogan.Pulpstar said:
Ah yes THIS is what people voted Brexit for !Scott_P said:
https://twitter.com/mrdavidwhitley/status/761572757373067264Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.0 -
@AlistairMeeks will have to change his race & gender to get the full set of "Remain" points I'm afraid.Sean_F said:Presumably, there'd have to be extra taxes on white people, who voted 53/47 Leave.
Pro-Remain points: "A"; Londoner; Lib-Lab-Green swing voter; Gay
Neutral: 40-50 yrs old
Anti-Remain points: White / Male.
I think @the_apocalypse collects the whole set of "Pro-remain" pidgeon holing points on this board:
For me it is:
Pro-Remain points: LD; Under 40
Neutral: C1 (I think ?)
Anti-Remain points: White / Male / Straight / Rural
The full Brexit would be UKIP / 65 + / D2E / White / Male / Straight / Rural I think.0 -
It's the YouGov mystery sauce of likelihood to vote.PlatoSaid said:General Election
A few anomalies when YOUGOV try to predict what the don't knows will do
https://t.co/NeUG9DHcfY
Your thoughts are welcome
You should ask the cook, Mr.Kellner, for the secret recipe.0 -
'color' Mr D ?RobD said:
You mean the current color, this is just the Sun's campaign, not an official announcement (we haven't left yet, for starters)Speedy said:
Burgundy looks better than blue I think.Pulpstar said:
Ah yes THIS is what people voted Brexit for !Scott_P said:
twitter.com/mrdavidwhitley/status/761572757373067264Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Couldn't they keep the previous colour ?
I fear long term exposure to our cousins across the pond is having a detrimental effect.
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Didn't poorer people back Leave a lot more than the rich? Good luck asking them to pay more, even if it were fair.0
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Why? Peter Kellner no longer works for YouGovSpeedy said:
It's the YouGov mystery sauce of likelihood to vote.PlatoSaid said:General Election
A few anomalies when YOUGOV try to predict what the don't knows will do
https://t.co/NeUG9DHcfY
Your thoughts are welcome
You should ask the cook, Mr.Kellner, for the secret recipe.0 -
Honi soit qui mal y pense is actually Scottish. It was the motto of Black Watch, they were hard as nails.TheWhiteRabbit said:
"Honi" is of course not proper French any more(!)TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm not keen on the old UK passport, far too many French words on the front of it. I'm English not French.Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Remainers get to have the red passport, but with 12 stars instead of the lions on the front. However it does allow you to still work and live and move round anywhere in Europe. It has "European union" on the front.
This would reflect both the leave group's need for "sovereignty" and the remain's group desire to still be able to enjoy all their freedoms pre-Brexit (Whilst acknowledging that a remain vote would have meant ever closer union).
A fair compromise !
You don't get that nonsense on the red EU passport.
By God it's my right not to have French words on the front of my passport0 -
I thought TSE would be pleased, apparently the "mon droit" part of "dieu et mon droit" refers to the claim on the French throne..ThreeQuidder said:
Norman French, right? La Reyne le veult.williamglenn said:
You'd think they'd at least get rid of the French slogan.Pulpstar said:
Ah yes THIS is what people voted Brexit for !Scott_P said:
https://twitter.com/mrdavidwhitley/status/761572757373067264Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere. 0 -
Do you feel you have enough "remain" points to be part of the chosen onesTheScreamingEagles said:
Why? Peter Kellner no longer works for YouGovSpeedy said:
It's the YouGov mystery sauce of likelihood to vote.PlatoSaid said:General Election
A few anomalies when YOUGOV try to predict what the don't knows will do
https://t.co/NeUG9DHcfY
Your thoughts are welcome
You should ask the cook, Mr.Kellner, for the secret recipe.
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And all spending should go to Tories. Anyone else, fuck them, they don't want the government so why should the government spend a penny on them.kle4 said:
Yes, of course. And all taxes should only come from Tories, who voted for this government when no one else did. Works for me, I didn't vote for this government.Monty said:Excellent article. Why should my family suffer for Brexit? Anyone who voted leave? Fuck them.
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What about me?Pulpstar said:
@AlistairMeeks will have to change his race & gender to get the full set of "Remain" points I'm afraid.Sean_F said:Presumably, there'd have to be extra taxes on white people, who voted 53/47 Leave.
Pro-Remain points: "A"; Londoner; Lib-Lab-Green swing voter; Gay
Neutral: 40-50 yrs old
Anti-Remain points: White / Male.
I think @the_apocalypse collects the whole set of "Pro-remain" pidgeon holing points on this board:
For me it is:
Pro-Remain points: LD; Under 40
Neutral: C1 (I think ?)
Anti-Remain points: White / Male / Straight / Rural
The full Brexit would be UKIP / 65 + / D2E / White / Male / Straight / Rural I think.
I'm a working class Northerner descendant of immigrants, who voted Remain, I should get the full points.0 -
Oh God Yes.Pulpstar said:
Do you feel you have enough "remain" points to be part of the chosen onesTheScreamingEagles said:
Why? Peter Kellner no longer works for YouGovSpeedy said:
It's the YouGov mystery sauce of likelihood to vote.PlatoSaid said:General Election
A few anomalies when YOUGOV try to predict what the don't knows will do
https://t.co/NeUG9DHcfY
Your thoughts are welcome
You should ask the cook, Mr.Kellner, for the secret recipe. ?0 -
Sorry.. blame the iPhone dictionary which I have set on American.SimonStClare said:
'color' Mr D ?RobD said:
You mean the current color, this is just the Sun's campaign, not an official announcement (we haven't left yet, for starters)Speedy said:
Burgundy looks better than blue I think.Pulpstar said:
Ah yes THIS is what people voted Brexit for !Scott_P said:
twitter.com/mrdavidwhitley/status/761572757373067264Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Couldn't they keep the previous colour ?
I fear long term exposure to our cousins across the pond is having a detrimental effect.
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No, it;s perfect. You don't vote for something, it's not fair it applies to you, that's democracy.Philip_Thompson said:
And all spending should go to Tories. Anyone else, fuck them, they don't want the government so why should the government spend a penny on them.kle4 said:
Yes, of course. And all taxes should only come from Tories, who voted for this government when no one else did. Works for me, I didn't vote for this government.Monty said:Excellent article. Why should my family suffer for Brexit? Anyone who voted leave? Fuck them.
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Since this is an EU ref article, why not include the ex-president of Yougov who predicted a comfy Remain victory at the night of the count ?TheScreamingEagles said:
Why? Peter Kellner no longer works for YouGovSpeedy said:
It's the YouGov mystery sauce of likelihood to vote.PlatoSaid said:General Election
A few anomalies when YOUGOV try to predict what the don't knows will do
https://t.co/NeUG9DHcfY
Your thoughts are welcome
You should ask the cook, Mr.Kellner, for the secret recipe.0 -
We should really use British French. "Creme de la menthe Rodders. Mange tout."ThreeQuidder said:
Norman French, right? La Reyne le veult.williamglenn said:
You'd think they'd at least get rid of the French slogan.Pulpstar said:
Ah yes THIS is what people voted Brexit for !Scott_P said:
https://twitter.com/mrdavidwhitley/status/761572757373067264Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.0 -
But no NHS, Education, Police etc. coverage unless you did vote for the winning team.kle4 said:
Yes, of course. And all taxes should only come from Tories, who voted for this government when no one else did. Works for me, I didn't vote for this government.Monty said:Excellent article. Why should my family suffer for Brexit? Anyone who voted leave? Fuck them.
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I think it's a great idea. It needs to be rolled out to other things as well, though. We need to ensure your voting slip is identifiable, so that when anything in a party's manifesto that you voted for goes tits up, you can be billed for it, or accept a good shoeing in lieu of payment. Think of the fun we could have, and the money to be made? Governments waste so much money, the whole nation will be walking around with black eyes and empty wallets.0
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https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/732785721145188352MaxPB said:A whole load of vapid bilge.
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Nemo me impune lacessit, I think. No-one hurts me and gets away with it. On various Scottish things - pound coins, Edinburgh Castle etcTheScreamingEagles said:
Honi soit qui mal y pense is actually Scottish. It was the motto of Black Watch, they were hard as nails.TheWhiteRabbit said:
"Honi" is of course not proper French any more(!)TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm not keen on the old UK passport, far too many French words on the front of it. I'm English not French.Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Remainers get to have the red passport, but with 12 stars instead of the lions on the front. However it does allow you to still work and live and move round anywhere in Europe. It has "European union" on the front.
This would reflect both the leave group's need for "sovereignty" and the remain's group desire to still be able to enjoy all their freedoms pre-Brexit (Whilst acknowledging that a remain vote would have meant ever closer union).
A fair compromise !
You don't get that nonsense on the red EU passport.
By God it's my right not to have French words on the front of my passport0 -
That's actually a pretty good idea and I like it very much.Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Remainers get to have the red passport, but with 12 stars instead of the lions on the front. However it does allow you to still work and live and move round anywhere in Europe. It has "European union" on the front.
This would reflect both the leave group's need for "sovereignty" and the remain's group desire to still be able to enjoy all their freedoms pre-Brexit (Whilst acknowledging that a remain vote would have meant ever closer union).
A fair compromise !
I'd suggest though that the EU versions are dual-printed in Arabic. It'll save having to get them all reprinted in about a decade when you'll need that to get around most of France and Germany.0 -
You'll need to become a friend of Dorothy to bag them all I'm afraid. Also Sheffield voted to "leave"TheScreamingEagles said:
What about me?Pulpstar said:
@AlistairMeeks will have to change his race & gender to get the full set of "Remain" points I'm afraid.Sean_F said:Presumably, there'd have to be extra taxes on white people, who voted 53/47 Leave.
Pro-Remain points: "A"; Londoner; Lib-Lab-Green swing voter; Gay
Neutral: 40-50 yrs old
Anti-Remain points: White / Male.
I think @the_apocalypse collects the whole set of "Pro-remain" pidgeon holing points on this board:
For me it is:
Pro-Remain points: LD; Under 40
Neutral: C1 (I think ?)
Anti-Remain points: White / Male / Straight / Rural
The full Brexit would be UKIP / 65 + / D2E / White / Male / Straight / Rural I think.
I'm a working class Northerner descendant of immigrants, who voted Remain, I should get the full points. 0 -
You are no longer allowed to have a British passport.RobD said:
Sorry.. blame the iPhone dictionary which I have set on American.SimonStClare said:
'color' Mr D ?RobD said:
You mean the current color, this is just the Sun's campaign, not an official announcement (we haven't left yet, for starters)Speedy said:
Burgundy looks better than blue I think.Pulpstar said:
Ah yes THIS is what people voted Brexit for !Scott_P said:
twitter.com/mrdavidwhitley/status/761572757373067264Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Couldn't they keep the previous colour ?
I fear long term exposure to our cousins across the pond is having a detrimental effect.
Next you'll be calling your mobile a cellphone.
OMG, given your profession, you don't call it math (sic) do you?0 -
It kinda destroys the idea of ballot secrecy.RobD said:
But no NHS, Education, Police etc. coverage unless you did vote for the winning team.kle4 said:
Yes, of course. And all taxes should only come from Tories, who voted for this government when no one else did. Works for me, I didn't vote for this government.Monty said:Excellent article. Why should my family suffer for Brexit? Anyone who voted leave? Fuck them.
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To continue the NI theme
RUC Diary
Wednesday 4 April 1984 ~ An angry man requested we give him the name of the soldier who has been sleeping with both his wife and daughter.0 -
Haven't yet crossed that particular rubicon...TheScreamingEagles said:
You are no longer allowed to have a British passport.RobD said:
Sorry.. blame the iPhone dictionary which I have set on American.SimonStClare said:
'color' Mr D ?RobD said:
You mean the current color, this is just the Sun's campaign, not an official announcement (we haven't left yet, for starters)Speedy said:
Burgundy looks better than blue I think.Pulpstar said:
Ah yes THIS is what people voted Brexit for !Scott_P said:
twitter.com/mrdavidwhitley/status/761572757373067264Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Couldn't they keep the previous colour ?
I fear long term exposure to our cousins across the pond is having a detrimental effect.
Next you'll be calling your mobile a cellphone.
OMG, given your profession, you don't call it math (sic) do you?0 -
Bugger, where's the edit buttonFF43 said:
Nemo me impune lacessit, I think. No-one hurts me and gets away with it. On various Scottish things - pound coins, Edinburgh Castle etcTheScreamingEagles said:
Honi soit qui mal y pense is actually Scottish. It was the motto of Black Watch, they were hard as nails.TheWhiteRabbit said:
"Honi" is of course not proper French any more(!)TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm not keen on the old UK passport, far too many French words on the front of it. I'm English not French.Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Remainers get to have the red passport, but with 12 stars instead of the lions on the front. However it does allow you to still work and live and move round anywhere in Europe. It has "European union" on the front.
This would reflect both the leave group's need for "sovereignty" and the remain's group desire to still be able to enjoy all their freedoms pre-Brexit (Whilst acknowledging that a remain vote would have meant ever closer union).
A fair compromise !
You don't get that nonsense on the red EU passport.
By God it's my right not to have French words on the front of my passport0 -
So does the premise of this threadSpeedy said:
It kinda destroys the idea of ballot secrecy.RobD said:
But no NHS, Education, Police etc. coverage unless you did vote for the winning team.kle4 said:
Yes, of course. And all taxes should only come from Tories, who voted for this government when no one else did. Works for me, I didn't vote for this government.Monty said:Excellent article. Why should my family suffer for Brexit? Anyone who voted leave? Fuck them.
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Not entirely sure why rural broadband is on the hit list here. Only a few millions. Surely there will need to be far more substantial cuts?0
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Make sure you don't cross that Rubicon.RobD said:
Haven't yet crossed that particular rubicon...TheScreamingEagles said:
You are no longer allowed to have a British passport.RobD said:
Sorry.. blame the iPhone dictionary which I have set on American.SimonStClare said:
'color' Mr D ?RobD said:
You mean the current color, this is just the Sun's campaign, not an official announcement (we haven't left yet, for starters)Speedy said:
Burgundy looks better than blue I think.Pulpstar said:
Ah yes THIS is what people voted Brexit for !Scott_P said:
twitter.com/mrdavidwhitley/status/761572757373067264Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Couldn't they keep the previous colour ?
I fear long term exposure to our cousins across the pond is having a detrimental effect.
Next you'll be calling your mobile a cellphone.
OMG, given your profession, you don't call it math (sic) do you?0 -
TheScreamingEagles said:
You are no longer allowed to have a British passport.RobD said:
Sorry.. blame the iPhone dictionary which I have set on American.SimonStClare said:
'color' Mr D ?RobD said:
You mean the current color, this is just the Sun's campaign, not an official announcement (we haven't left yet, for starters)Speedy said:
Burgundy looks better than blue I think.Pulpstar said:
Ah yes THIS is what people voted Brexit for !Scott_P said:
twitter.com/mrdavidwhitley/status/761572757373067264Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Couldn't they keep the previous colour ?
I fear long term exposure to our cousins across the pond is having a detrimental effect.
Next you'll be calling your mobile a cellphone.
OMG, given your profession, you don't call it math (sic) do you?
I prefer saying math. Much easier than trying to pronounce 'th' & 's' together.
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If things go badly in the next couple of years, I think we can be sure than public recollection will be people voted 70-30 Remain.RobD said:
So does the premise of this threadSpeedy said:
It kinda destroys the idea of ballot secrecy.RobD said:
But no NHS, Education, Police etc. coverage unless you did vote for the winning team.kle4 said:
Yes, of course. And all taxes should only come from Tories, who voted for this government when no one else did. Works for me, I didn't vote for this government.Monty said:Excellent article. Why should my family suffer for Brexit? Anyone who voted leave? Fuck them.
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Math is kinda weird, since mathematics has an s on the end. Mathematic doesn't sound right...MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:
You are no longer allowed to have a British passport.RobD said:
Sorry.. blame the iPhone dictionary which I have set on American.SimonStClare said:
'color' Mr D ?RobD said:
You mean the current color, this is just the Sun's campaign, not an official announcement (we haven't left yet, for starters)Speedy said:
Burgundy looks better than blue I think.Pulpstar said:
Ah yes THIS is what people voted Brexit for !Scott_P said:
twitter.com/mrdavidwhitley/status/761572757373067264Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Couldn't they keep the previous colour ?
I fear long term exposure to our cousins across the pond is having a detrimental effect.
Next you'll be calling your mobile a cellphone.
OMG, given your profession, you don't call it math (sic) do you?
I prefer saying math. Much easier than trying to pronounce 'th' & 's' together.0 -
Only because of TSE's excellent canvassing skills - unless he "secretly" canvassed for LEAVE, of course!Pulpstar said:
You'll need to become a friend of Dorothy to bag them all I'm afraid. Also Sheffield voted to "leave"TheScreamingEagles said:
What about me?Pulpstar said:
@AlistairMeeks will have to change his race & gender to get the full set of "Remain" points I'm afraid.Sean_F said:Presumably, there'd have to be extra taxes on white people, who voted 53/47 Leave.
Pro-Remain points: "A"; Londoner; Lib-Lab-Green swing voter; Gay
Neutral: 40-50 yrs old
Anti-Remain points: White / Male.
I think @the_apocalypse collects the whole set of "Pro-remain" pidgeon holing points on this board:
For me it is:
Pro-Remain points: LD; Under 40
Neutral: C1 (I think ?)
Anti-Remain points: White / Male / Straight / Rural
The full Brexit would be UKIP / 65 + / D2E / White / Male / Straight / Rural I think.
I'm a working class Northerner descendant of immigrants, who voted Remain, I should get the full points.0 -
I was speaking to a psephologist last week, he cheerily pointed out that in a decade's time, there will be more people alive that voted Remain than voted Leave.kle4 said:
If things go badly in the next couple of years, I think we can be sure than public recollection will be people voted 70-30 Remain.RobD said:
So does the premise of this threadSpeedy said:
It kinda destroys the idea of ballot secrecy.RobD said:
But no NHS, Education, Police etc. coverage unless you did vote for the winning team.kle4 said:
Yes, of course. And all taxes should only come from Tories, who voted for this government when no one else did. Works for me, I didn't vote for this government.Monty said:Excellent article. Why should my family suffer for Brexit? Anyone who voted leave? Fuck them.
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TSE knows better than to boast about ground games.... IOS on the other hand......... titters.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Only because of TSE's excellent canvassing skills - unless he "secretly" canvassed for LEAVE, of course!Pulpstar said:
You'll need to become a friend of Dorothy to bag them all I'm afraid. Also Sheffield voted to "leave"TheScreamingEagles said:
What about me?Pulpstar said:
@AlistairMeeks will have to change his race & gender to get the full set of "Remain" points I'm afraid.Sean_F said:Presumably, there'd have to be extra taxes on white people, who voted 53/47 Leave.
Pro-Remain points: "A"; Londoner; Lib-Lab-Green swing voter; Gay
Neutral: 40-50 yrs old
Anti-Remain points: White / Male.
I think @the_apocalypse collects the whole set of "Pro-remain" pidgeon holing points on this board:
For me it is:
Pro-Remain points: LD; Under 40
Neutral: C1 (I think ?)
Anti-Remain points: White / Male / Straight / Rural
The full Brexit would be UKIP / 65 + / D2E / White / Male / Straight / Rural I think.
I'm a working class Northerner descendant of immigrants, who voted Remain, I should get the full points.0 -
For people with speech impediments the word "lisp" is an incredibly unfortunate description.MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:
You are no longer allowed to have a British passport.RobD said:
Sorry.. blame the iPhone dictionary which I have set on American.SimonStClare said:
'color' Mr D ?RobD said:
You mean the current color, this is just the Sun's campaign, not an official announcement (we haven't left yet, for starters)Speedy said:
Burgundy looks better than blue I think.Pulpstar said:
Ah yes THIS is what people voted Brexit for !Scott_P said:
twitter.com/mrdavidwhitley/status/761572757373067264Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Couldn't they keep the previous colour ?
I fear long term exposure to our cousins across the pond is having a detrimental effect.
Next you'll be calling your mobile a cellphone.
OMG, given your profession, you don't call it math (sic) do you?
I prefer saying math. Much easier than trying to pronounce 'th' & 's' together.0 -
Well, there's your pretext for a revote right there.TheScreamingEagles said:
I was speaking to a psephologist last week, he cheerily pointed out that in a decade's time, there will be more people alive that voted Remain than voted Leave.kle4 said:
If things go badly in the next couple of years, I think we can be sure than public recollection will be people voted 70-30 Remain.RobD said:
So does the premise of this threadSpeedy said:
It kinda destroys the idea of ballot secrecy.RobD said:
But no NHS, Education, Police etc. coverage unless you did vote for the winning team.kle4 said:
Yes, of course. And all taxes should only come from Tories, who voted for this government when no one else did. Works for me, I didn't vote for this government.Monty said:Excellent article. Why should my family suffer for Brexit? Anyone who voted leave? Fuck them.
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That is true, but that's only because there aren't going to be repeated votes on it. The same thing could be said about Tories, but luckily they get replaced by people growing up.TheScreamingEagles said:
I was speaking to a psephologist last week, he cheerily pointed out that in a decade's time, there will be more people alive that voted Remain than voted Leave.kle4 said:
If things go badly in the next couple of years, I think we can be sure than public recollection will be people voted 70-30 Remain.RobD said:
So does the premise of this threadSpeedy said:
It kinda destroys the idea of ballot secrecy.RobD said:
But no NHS, Education, Police etc. coverage unless you did vote for the winning team.kle4 said:
Yes, of course. And all taxes should only come from Tories, who voted for this government when no one else did. Works for me, I didn't vote for this government.Monty said:Excellent article. Why should my family suffer for Brexit? Anyone who voted leave? Fuck them.
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I'm also founder of the Campaign For Real Swearing. Our swearing has become far too Americanised, it's arse, not ass.RobD said:
Math is kinda weird, since mathematics has an s on the end. Mathematic doesn't sound right...MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:
You are no longer allowed to have a British passport.RobD said:
Sorry.. blame the iPhone dictionary which I have set on American.SimonStClare said:
'color' Mr D ?RobD said:
You mean the current color, this is just the Sun's campaign, not an official announcement (we haven't left yet, for starters)Speedy said:
Burgundy looks better than blue I think.Pulpstar said:
Ah yes THIS is what people voted Brexit for !Scott_P said:
twitter.com/mrdavidwhitley/status/761572757373067264Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Couldn't they keep the previous colour ?
I fear long term exposure to our cousins across the pond is having a detrimental effect.
Next you'll be calling your mobile a cellphone.
OMG, given your profession, you don't call it math (sic) do you?
I prefer saying math. Much easier than trying to pronounce 'th' & 's' together.0 -
And why isn't monosyllabic monosyllabic?GeoffM said:
For people with speech impediments the word "lisp" is an incredibly unfortunate description.MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:
You are no longer allowed to have a British passport.RobD said:
Sorry.. blame the iPhone dictionary which I have set on American.SimonStClare said:
'color' Mr D ?RobD said:
You mean the current color, this is just the Sun's campaign, not an official announcement (we haven't left yet, for starters)Speedy said:
Burgundy looks better than blue I think.Pulpstar said:
Ah yes THIS is what people voted Brexit for !Scott_P said:
twitter.com/mrdavidwhitley/status/761572757373067264Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Couldn't they keep the previous colour ?
I fear long term exposure to our cousins across the pond is having a detrimental effect.
Next you'll be calling your mobile a cellphone.
OMG, given your profession, you don't call it math (sic) do you?
I prefer saying math. Much easier than trying to pronounce 'th' & 's' together.0 -
Alas no, we voted to Leave, we're Leaving. No Turning Back, and rejoining the EU in the future is a no no, as we'd have to sign up for the single currency, Schengen, and no rebate.kle4 said:
Well, there's your pretext for a revote right there.TheScreamingEagles said:
I was speaking to a psephologist last week, he cheerily pointed out that in a decade's time, there will be more people alive that voted Remain than voted Leave.kle4 said:
If things go badly in the next couple of years, I think we can be sure than public recollection will be people voted 70-30 Remain.RobD said:
So does the premise of this threadSpeedy said:
It kinda destroys the idea of ballot secrecy.RobD said:
But no NHS, Education, Police etc. coverage unless you did vote for the winning team.kle4 said:
Yes, of course. And all taxes should only come from Tories, who voted for this government when no one else did. Works for me, I didn't vote for this government.Monty said:Excellent article. Why should my family suffer for Brexit? Anyone who voted leave? Fuck them.
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The truth means nothing to Scott if he can insult ScotlandGeoffM said:
The "Yes" awning in that picture matches your point but the "We Do Not Accept Scottish Notes" A-board outside makes it less likely that the name reflects their vote!Scott_P said:
Once again, 2 years behind the Scottish curve...GeoffM said:Shops owned by Leaver voters should also be marked and publicly recognisable.
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Chortles
well remainers have been taxing the ass of the poor ages and profting from their policy preferences. Time for the Remainers to cough up.0 -
And if things go well that ratio will be reversed. That's human nature.kle4 said:
If things go badly in the next couple of years, I think we can be sure than public recollection will be people voted 70-30 Remain.RobD said:
So does the premise of this threadSpeedy said:
It kinda destroys the idea of ballot secrecy.RobD said:
But no NHS, Education, Police etc. coverage unless you did vote for the winning team.kle4 said:
Yes, of course. And all taxes should only come from Tories, who voted for this government when no one else did. Works for me, I didn't vote for this government.Monty said:Excellent article. Why should my family suffer for Brexit? Anyone who voted leave? Fuck them.
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Didn't Sir Ian Botham once say something along the lines of - more people claim that they saw him at Headlingley in 1981 than the actual capacity of the ground?0 -
Re punishing particular groups of voters: Singapore's People's Action Party actually did something like this, prioritising the roll-out of the Lift Upgrading Programme in state-owned residential tower blocks to those areas that voted more heavily for the PAP!
At the Kent Ridge Ministerial Forum in 2011, an engineering student living in Hougang asked Prime Minister (PM) Lee Hsien Loong if he could pay less tax since the opposition-held ward does not enjoy upgrading programmes.
Seah Yin Hwa asked the PM, “When it comes to upgrading, what is being told to us is that we don’t have the funds to actually go ahead with lift upgrading, as well as shelters to the bus stops. When I look across the road to Aljunied GRC, they have everything.”
PM Lee paraphrased his question and said that what Mr Seah meant is why opposition wards are not treated as equally as PAP wards. PM Lee said the “answer is that there has to be a distinction. Because the PAP wards supported the Government and the policies which delivered these good things.”
He described upgrading programmes as ‘extras’ and said that, “between the people who voted and supported the programme and the government, and the people who didn’t, I think if we went and put yours before the PAP constituencies, it would be an injustice.”
Similarly Housing Development Board upgrades were used to entice voters in the 1997 General Election.0 -
That's no reason not to go back in. The gross payment is only £18 billion a year. That's 2.2% of government spending.TheScreamingEagles said:
Alas no, we voted to Leave, we're Leaving. No Turning Back, and rejoining the EU in the future is a no no, as we'd have to sign up for the single currency, Schengen, and no rebate.kle4 said:
Well, there's your pretext for a revote right there.TheScreamingEagles said:
I was speaking to a psephologist last week, he cheerily pointed out that in a decade's time, there will be more people alive that voted Remain than voted Leave.kle4 said:
If things go badly in the next couple of years, I think we can be sure than public recollection will be people voted 70-30 Remain.RobD said:
So does the premise of this threadSpeedy said:
It kinda destroys the idea of ballot secrecy.RobD said:
But no NHS, Education, Police etc. coverage unless you did vote for the winning team.kle4 said:
Yes, of course. And all taxes should only come from Tories, who voted for this government when no one else did. Works for me, I didn't vote for this government.Monty said:Excellent article. Why should my family suffer for Brexit? Anyone who voted leave? Fuck them.
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Cook and Hales have reached their best ever partnership.0
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worse - why is there onlly one Monoply and Metgers Commission ?SandyRentool said:
And why isn't monosyllabic monosyllabic?GeoffM said:
For people with speech impediments the word "lisp" is an incredibly unfortunate description.MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:
You are no longer allowed to have a British passport.RobD said:
Sorry.. blame the iPhone dictionary which I have set on American.SimonStClare said:
'color' Mr D ?RobD said:
You mean the current color, this is just the Sun's campaign, not an official announcement (we haven't left yet, for starters)Speedy said:
Burgundy looks better than blue I think.Pulpstar said:
Ah yes THIS is what people voted Brexit for !Scott_P said:
twitter.com/mrdavidwhitley/status/761572757373067264Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Couldn't they keep the previous colour ?
I fear long term exposure to our cousins across the pond is having a detrimental effect.
Next you'll be calling your mobile a cellphone.
OMG, given your profession, you don't call it math (sic) do you?
I prefer saying math. Much easier than trying to pronounce 'th' & 's' together.0 -
It's not such much as the lack of rebate, it's signing up to the single currency, I cannot foresee any circumstances where it is in the UK's long term interests to join the Euro.John_M said:
That's no reason not to go back in. The gross payment is only £18 billion a year. That's 2.2% of government spending.TheScreamingEagles said:
Alas no, we voted to Leave, we're Leaving. No Turning Back, and rejoining the EU in the future is a no no, as we'd have to sign up for the single currency, Schengen, and no rebate.kle4 said:
Well, there's your pretext for a revote right there.TheScreamingEagles said:
I was speaking to a psephologist last week, he cheerily pointed out that in a decade's time, there will be more people alive that voted Remain than voted Leave.kle4 said:
If things go badly in the next couple of years, I think we can be sure than public recollection will be people voted 70-30 Remain.RobD said:
So does the premise of this threadSpeedy said:
It kinda destroys the idea of ballot secrecy.RobD said:
But no NHS, Education, Police etc. coverage unless you did vote for the winning team.kle4 said:
Yes, of course. And all taxes should only come from Tories, who voted for this government when no one else did. Works for me, I didn't vote for this government.Monty said:Excellent article. Why should my family suffer for Brexit? Anyone who voted leave? Fuck them.
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Yeah it's rather stuffed me !ThreeQuidder said:Cook and Hales have reached their best ever partnership.
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Showing your age there, it hasn't been the Monopoly and Mergers Commission for years.Alanbrooke said:
worse - why is there onlly one Monoply and Metgers Commission ?SandyRentool said:
And why isn't monosyllabic monosyllabic?GeoffM said:
For people with speech impediments the word "lisp" is an incredibly unfortunate description.MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:
You are no longer allowed to have a British passport.RobD said:
Sorry.. blame the iPhone dictionary which I have set on American.SimonStClare said:
'color' Mr D ?RobD said:
You mean the current color, this is just the Sun's campaign, not an official announcement (we haven't left yet, for starters)Speedy said:
Burgundy looks better than blue I think.Pulpstar said:
Ah yes THIS is what people voted Brexit for !Scott_P said:
twitter.com/mrdavidwhitley/status/761572757373067264Pulpstar said:I reckon the simplest solution to this whole thing would be:
Brexiteers get to have the shiny black passports, real gold plating on the front, a slightly inconvienent oversize - but doubtless a feeling of "sovereignty". It says Great Britain, no mention of the EU anywhere.
Couldn't they keep the previous colour ?
I fear long term exposure to our cousins across the pond is having a detrimental effect.
Next you'll be calling your mobile a cellphone.
OMG, given your profession, you don't call it math (sic) do you?
I prefer saying math. Much easier than trying to pronounce 'th' & 's' together.
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Why arent you on Daves honour list ?TheScreamingEagles said:
It's not such much as the lack of rebate, it's signing up to the single currency, I cannot foresee any circumstances where it is in the UK's long term interests to join the Euro.John_M said:
That's no reason not to go back in. The gross payment is only £18 billion a year. That's 2.2% of government spending.TheScreamingEagles said:
Alas no, we voted to Leave, we're Leaving. No Turning Back, and rejoining the EU in the future is a no no, as we'd have to sign up for the single currency, Schengen, and no rebate.kle4 said:
Well, there's your pretext for a revote right there.TheScreamingEagles said:
I was speaking to a psephologist last week, he cheerily pointed out that in a decade's time, there will be more people alive that voted Remain than voted Leave.kle4 said:
If things go badly in the next couple of years, I think we can be sure than public recollection will be people voted 70-30 Remain.RobD said:
So does the premise of this threadSpeedy said:
It kinda destroys the idea of ballot secrecy.RobD said:
But no NHS, Education, Police etc. coverage unless you did vote for the winning team.kle4 said:
Yes, of course. And all taxes should only come from Tories, who voted for this government when no one else did. Works for me, I didn't vote for this government.Monty said:Excellent article. Why should my family suffer for Brexit? Anyone who voted leave? Fuck them.
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I think it would be fantastic. We could join the Krauts in oppressing enjoying a trade surplus with southern Europe.TheScreamingEagles said:
It's not such much as the lack of rebate, it's signing up to the single currency, I cannot foresee any circumstances where it is in the UK's long term interests to join the Euro.John_M said:
That's no reason not to go back in. The gross payment is only £18 billion a year. That's 2.2% of government spending.TheScreamingEagles said:
Alas no, we voted to Leave, we're Leaving. No Turning Back, and rejoining the EU in the future is a no no, as we'd have to sign up for the single currency, Schengen, and no rebate.kle4 said:
Well, there's your pretext for a revote right there.TheScreamingEagles said:
I was speaking to a psephologist last week, he cheerily pointed out that in a decade's time, there will be more people alive that voted Remain than voted Leave.kle4 said:
If things go badly in the next couple of years, I think we can be sure than public recollection will be people voted 70-30 Remain.RobD said:
So does the premise of this threadSpeedy said:
It kinda destroys the idea of ballot secrecy.RobD said:
But no NHS, Education, Police etc. coverage unless you did vote for the winning team.kle4 said:
Yes, of course. And all taxes should only come from Tories, who voted for this government when no one else did. Works for me, I didn't vote for this government.Monty said:Excellent article. Why should my family suffer for Brexit? Anyone who voted leave? Fuck them.
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If England can get up to 350ish, a final day chase of 250ish will be entertaining.Pulpstar said:
Yeah it's rather stuffed me !ThreeQuidder said:Cook and Hales have reached their best ever partnership.
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In their dreams, it is a one way journey and the train has left the stationRobD said:
Hah.. I love it!FF43 said:
If there's ever IndyRef2, I insist the question must be "Should Scotland remain in the UK"? Then all those that have done the "Journey to Yes" will have to do the journey back to NoScott_P said:
Once again, 2 years behind the Scottish curve...GeoffM said:Shops owned by Leaver voters should also be marked and publicly recognisable.
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Ooops, meant to give a source for that. http://theindependent.sg/no-vote-no-upgrading-wp-leon-perera-slams-paps-murali-pillais-carrot-for-bukit-batok-voters/MyBurningEars said:Re punishing particular groups of voters: Singapore's People's Action Party actually did something like this, prioritising the roll-out of the Lift Upgrading Programme in state-owned residential tower blocks to those areas that voted more heavily for the PAP!
At the Kent Ridge Ministerial Forum in 2011, an engineering student living in Hougang asked Prime Minister (PM) Lee Hsien Loong if he could pay less tax since the opposition-held ward does not enjoy upgrading programmes.
Seah Yin Hwa asked the PM, “When it comes to upgrading, what is being told to us is that we don’t have the funds to actually go ahead with lift upgrading, as well as shelters to the bus stops. When I look across the road to Aljunied GRC, they have everything.”
PM Lee paraphrased his question and said that what Mr Seah meant is why opposition wards are not treated as equally as PAP wards. PM Lee said the “answer is that there has to be a distinction. Because the PAP wards supported the Government and the policies which delivered these good things.”
He described upgrading programmes as ‘extras’ and said that, “between the people who voted and supported the programme and the government, and the people who didn’t, I think if we went and put yours before the PAP constituencies, it would be an injustice.”
Similarly Housing Development Board upgrades were used to entice voters in the 1997 General Election.0 -
Top trolling Alastair.rottenborough said:Not entirely sure why rural broadband is on the hit list here. Only a few millions. Surely there will need to be far more substantial cuts?
Can I suggest a white van supertax to add to your suggestions?
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