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I'm not sure. A REMAINER would do well in London, where Labour is already strong, but how they go down in Wales and the North is another matter...SeanT said:We're laughing now (and why not) - but if Labour do somehow prise Corbyn from the Precious, and then campaign on REMAIN against a Tory LEAVE they might do quite well; and if they campaign on a STAY IN SINGLE MARKET versus Bojo's LEAVE SINGLE MARKET they'd probably win
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I can totally appreciate Labour members being very irked - over turning their mandate is undemocratic according to their own rules.John_M said:
If Corbyn still has the support of the membership, he's essentially politically immortal. They should rename him God-King of the Opposition.felix said:I'm waiting for Corbyn to be supported by TP & Plato on the grounds that he supported Leave really. One of them has been busy hacking away today at the traitorous Ruth Davidson - you know the one who saved the Scottish Tories a few weeks ago. The Brexiters take no prisoners
Either you believe in it - or you don't.
Personally, I think a GE is appropriate shortly after a new PM is appointed. I thought Gordon was wrong taking over from Tony, and the same applies to Cameron.0 -
Nope. Not even a smidgeon of a chance.Paul_Bedfordshire said:The real question I guess is whether places like Poland and RoI also switch to EFTA once we join.
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Remanians are amazing at performing False Flag operations. anything negative you see on the mainstream media is a Remain false flag operation.eek said:
so the video was staged?felix said:
It didn't happen. It couldn't have happened. A vile 'Remainian' rumour.Scott_P said:@gmpolice: Three arrested in connection with a hate incident on a tram in Manchester City Centre. https://t.co/AbpygV4IOQ
They're all in on it.0 -
LBC reporting 40 votes against, not 440
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The Lib Dems will need to reach out to Labour and the Greens and reach an electoral pact to defeat the Tories.0
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"Three arrested in connection with a hate incident on a tram in Manchester City Centre" - I would wait and see. It was the Manchester police who arrested a 9 year old girl and kept her in a cell for 12 hours for the crime of saying "I don't understand Urdu".0
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They should ask Peter the Punter to adjudicate.Tissue_Price said:
The Labour Party have one set of legal advice. The leadership have another.SimonStClare said:
That is my understanding also - automatically on the list.eek said:
Supposedly he's on the ballot automatically as the reigning leader...stjohn said:This article says Corbyn needs 50 to get on the leadership ballot but that can include MEPs.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-labour-leadership-brexit-can-he-stand-for-re-election-vote-of-no-confidence-legal-a7107291.html0 -
And less rainGeoffM said:
This sort of thing never happened before last Thursday.felix said:
It didn't happen. It couldn't have happened. A vile 'Remainian' rumour.Scott_P said:@gmpolice: Three arrested in connection with a hate incident on a tram in Manchester City Centre. https://t.co/AbpygV4IOQ
There was less dog poo on the streets before the referendum too.
Have you noticed that as well?0 -
Perhaps they were variations on Corbyn/Watson is a *********SeanT said:
Blimey. I knew the new intake was low-watt, but four Labour MPs don't even know how to VOTE. What did they do, eat the ballot paper by mistake?Richard_Nabavi said:
I'd like to see those spoilt ballots!TGOHF said:Faisal Islam @faisalislam 3m3 minutes ago
Confirmed result from labour no confidence motion
172 for
40 against
4 spoilt ballots
13 didn't vote0 -
Corbyn surveys the PLP
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NSFW.Richard_Nabavi said:
I'd like to see those spoilt ballots!TGOHF said:Faisal Islam @faisalislam 3m3 minutes ago
Confirmed result from labour no confidence motion
172 for
40 against
4 spoilt ballots
13 didn't vote
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I replied to you at the end of the last thread re identity politics.John_M said:
Felix likes pretend arguments. Young men being arseholes apparently unknown in the UK before June 23rd.eek said:
so the video was staged?felix said:
It didn't happen. It couldn't have happened. A vile 'Remainian' rumour.Scott_P said:@gmpolice: Three arrested in connection with a hate incident on a tram in Manchester City Centre. https://t.co/AbpygV4IOQ
Look for a new pretendy Felix argument coming to a site near you soon!0 -
God yes, those remainers came up with 2,400,000,000,000 dollars and did the dirty on Sterling. Hang 'em, I say!Alistair said:
Remanians are amazing at performing False Flag operations. anything negative you see on the mainstream media is a Remain false flag operation.eek said:
so the video was staged?felix said:
It didn't happen. It couldn't have happened. A vile 'Remainian' rumour.Scott_P said:@gmpolice: Three arrested in connection with a hate incident on a tram in Manchester City Centre. https://t.co/AbpygV4IOQ
They're all in on it.0 -
Or those who are worried about being deselected by Corbynista local parties.Artist said:Voting for him in this vote of confidence also doesn't mean they'd nominate him. A few are probably those Labour MPs who just don't feel like this is the right time when the country is in its current state.
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I cant think of any hate incidents ever happening on trams in the years before the referendum.felix said:
It didn't happen. It couldn't have happened. A vile 'Remainian' rumour.Scott_P said:@gmpolice: Three arrested in connection with a hate incident on a tram in Manchester City Centre. https://t.co/AbpygV4IOQ
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Drawing dicks on them.Richard_Nabavi said:
I'd like to see those spoilt ballots!TGOHF said:Faisal Islam @faisalislam 3m3 minutes ago
Confirmed result from labour no confidence motion
172 for
40 against
4 spoilt ballots
13 didn't vote0 -
Jeremy Corbyn must have some pretty rubbish friends if they aren't telling him kindly some important truths.0
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@mattforde: People asking what happens if Corbyn survives a leadership challenge. There's a specific phrase in the rule book for that: WE'RE FUCKED.0
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I seem to remember your opinion on the assumed authenticity of high visibility nasty behaviour being somewhat different during the Indyref.Alistair said:
Remanians are amazing at performing False Flag operations. anything negative you see on the mainstream media is a Remain false flag operation.eek said:
so the video was staged?felix said:
It didn't happen. It couldn't have happened. A vile 'Remainian' rumour.Scott_P said:@gmpolice: Three arrested in connection with a hate incident on a tram in Manchester City Centre. https://t.co/AbpygV4IOQ
They're all in on it.0 -
Mr. JS, Corbyn can survive. Not sure about Labour, though.
Mr Morris If Corbyn goes back to the membership, and they confirm him, what on earth happens then?
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I've not thought this up until now but we are getting into a position where SDP2 becomes a serious possibility.
The MPs need to ensure that Corbyn is on the ballot for the leadership contest that must now follow, assuming he wants to fight on. Only if he is defeated within the party will there even be a chance that the Left will accept the result.
But that opens up the possibility that he might win. If so, given today's vote, I don't see how the MPs can credibly continue within the same party. There could be worse times to split: the annihilation of the Lib Dems at least provides a space on the centre-left to fill.0 -
Those bedroom eyes will win it.Toms said:"Diane Abbott: leadership must be decided by party members not MPs"
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/28/diane-abbott-leadership-must-be-decided-by-party-members-not-mps
It looks like the Labour Party is also suffering hysteria and maybe ought to hold a referendum too.0 -
MPs disloyal to Corbyn and the membership get de-selected.taffys said:Mr. JS, Corbyn can survive. Not sure about Labour, though.
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@euanmccolm: how does seumas expect to spin a clear, general election-winning message out of this? i mean, assuming seumas isn't an idiot. which he is.0
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Alastair Campbell: Labour Party "has become a sect".0
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Thanks for the heads up - I'd moved onto this thread. Interesting background.PlatoSaid said:
I replied to you at the end of the last thread re identity politics.John_M said:
Felix likes pretend arguments. Young men being arseholes apparently unknown in the UK before June 23rd.eek said:
so the video was staged?felix said:
It didn't happen. It couldn't have happened. A vile 'Remainian' rumour.Scott_P said:@gmpolice: Three arrested in connection with a hate incident on a tram in Manchester City Centre. https://t.co/AbpygV4IOQ
Look for a new pretendy Felix argument coming to a site near you soon!
I received a follow up letter from the Welsh quasi-GIC this morning. They've changed my gender marker (which is a bit naughty of them in advance of a GRC). So, apparently I'm now gay. Whee, so dizzy, must have a lie down.
If I ever end up voting Labour, it really will have been a Fantastic Voyage. 0 -
That is more or less what I wrote yesterday. Depends on who the Leader will be though. I am beginning to prefer Yvette, again. Failing which Tom Watson to carry the party.SeanT said:We're laughing now (and why not) - but if Labour do somehow prise Corbyn from the Precious, and then campaign on REMAIN against a Tory LEAVE they might do quite well; and if they campaign on a STAY IN SINGLE MARKET versus Bojo's LEAVE SINGLE MARKET they'd probably win
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But i thought it was a generational thing, i thought all young people were remainers. Who was arguing for sixteen year olds to have the vote? It was their future?felix said:
It didn't happen. It couldn't have happened. A vile 'Remainian' rumour.Scott_P said:@gmpolice: Three arrested in connection with a hate incident on a tram in Manchester City Centre. https://t.co/AbpygV4IOQ
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You do realise Corbyn will have 36 MPs to nominate him.0
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AlastairMeeks said:
Jeremy Corbyn must have some pretty rubbish friends if they aren't telling him kindly some important truths.
There are few hundred thousand more Labour members who support Corbyn than support the disloyal MPs.
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According to the New Statesman’s George Eaton, Rosie Winterton, the chief whip, and John Cryer, the chair of the PLP, are going to see Jeremy Corbyn to tell him that the game is up.
[edited update]
George Eaton (@georgeeaton) June 28, 2016
Labour source: "Rosie [chief whip] and John [PLP chair] have not asked JC to resign, contrary to some speculation."0 -
I'm inclined to think it would be wiser not to do so. A GE would simply add to the turmoil & uncertainty. After all, Mr Cameron originally said he had no intention of resigning if Leave won.AndyJS said:BBC — Boris won't call general election if he becomes Tory leader.
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Yvette would be great. Her against Boris would be the best combo for Labour. Following Sean's suggested ticket, above*surbiton said:
That is more or less what I wrote yesterday. Depends on who the Leader will be though. I am beginning to prefer Yvette, again. Failing which Tom Watson to carry the party.SeanT said:We're laughing now (and why not) - but if Labour do somehow prise Corbyn from the Precious, and then campaign on REMAIN against a Tory LEAVE they might do quite well; and if they campaign on a STAY IN SINGLE MARKET versus Bojo's LEAVE SINGLE MARKET they'd probably win
*Note that Boris will not run on a 'leave single market' ticket. He may be a clown but he is not mad. The City will not in any case allow such irresponsibility.0 -
I travel on these trams quite often and have never seen any incident before. People and the media need to be very careful where they are going with this.Paul_Bedfordshire said:
I cant think of any hate incidents ever happening on trams in the years before the referendum.felix said:
It didn't happen. It couldn't have happened. A vile 'Remainian' rumour.Scott_P said:@gmpolice: Three arrested in connection with a hate incident on a tram in Manchester City Centre. https://t.co/AbpygV4IOQ
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Mr. Taffys, the 172 may form a new party. Or sigh, and hope for a bulk discount on the gimp suits they'll be wearing until the next election.0
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What?Luckyguy1983 said:
I seem to remember your opinion on the assumed authenticity of high visibility nasty behaviour being somewhat different during the Indyref.Alistair said:
Remanians are amazing at performing False Flag operations. anything negative you see on the mainstream media is a Remain false flag operation.eek said:
so the video was staged?felix said:
It didn't happen. It couldn't have happened. A vile 'Remainian' rumour.Scott_P said:@gmpolice: Three arrested in connection with a hate incident on a tram in Manchester City Centre. https://t.co/AbpygV4IOQ
They're all in on it.0 -
But it needs a deal with the LDs and the Greens. There are some Tories who might even join a progressive group. Heidi Allen springs to mind.surbiton said:
That is more or less what I wrote yesterday. Depends on who the Leader will be though. I am beginning to prefer Yvette, again. Failing which Tom Watson to carry the party.SeanT said:We're laughing now (and why not) - but if Labour do somehow prise Corbyn from the Precious, and then campaign on REMAIN against a Tory LEAVE they might do quite well; and if they campaign on a STAY IN SINGLE MARKET versus Bojo's LEAVE SINGLE MARKET they'd probably win
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'm inclined to think it would be wiser not to do so. A GE would simply add to the turmoil & uncertainty. After all, Mr Cameron originally said he had no intention of resigning if Leave won.
I don;t think the electorate would thank the conservatives for calling a GE. They want Brexit implemented, and then they will deliver their verdict in 2020.0 -
In what way would the City disallow it?Jobabob said:
Yvette would be great. Her against Boris would be the best combo for Labour. Following Sean's suggested ticket, above*surbiton said:
That is more or less what I wrote yesterday. Depends on who the Leader will be though. I am beginning to prefer Yvette, again. Failing which Tom Watson to carry the party.SeanT said:We're laughing now (and why not) - but if Labour do somehow prise Corbyn from the Precious, and then campaign on REMAIN against a Tory LEAVE they might do quite well; and if they campaign on a STAY IN SINGLE MARKET versus Bojo's LEAVE SINGLE MARKET they'd probably win
*Note that Boris will not run on a 'leave single market' ticket. He may be a clown but he is not mad. The City will not in any case allow such irresponsibility.0 -
Their mouths are well and truly stuffed with gold. If you were in Poland you would surely think anyone wanting to leave the EU as being utterly mad.John_M said:
Nope. Not even a smidgeon of a chance.Paul_Bedfordshire said:The real question I guess is whether places like Poland and RoI also switch to EFTA once we join.
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@WikiGuido: Andrea Leadsom is waiting for Boris to offer her Chancellor before she makes her mind up about running for leader: https://t.co/WCMdgSMUCx0
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Reality kicks in.
https://twitter.com/JamieRoss7/status/747823211254059008
The interesting thing is that Sturgeon brought forward her trip to Brussels from next week to tomorrow. It seems to me she's been invited by Shultz and that's why she's moved her schedule up.
Of course Unionists will read what they want into it.0 -
Flesh wound0
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Hi everyone,Paul_Bedfordshire said:The real question I guess is whether places like Poland and RoI also switch to EFTA once we join.
One thing concerns me slightly about EFTA: the ?four? existing EFTA states all have relatively small populations. How does voting / decision making inside EFTA occur?
We are leaving an organisation where one large member (Germany) is often seen as 'bullying' other members. Would the vastly large size of the UK (even without Scotland if they gain indy) just naturally lead us to 'bully' the other EFTA members just because of our different size and economic power?
On another note: at the beginning of last year I expected politics after the GE to be boring. Thanks to the referendum and Labour it's been quite the opposite!0 -
GeoffM said:
I completely agree - she'd be utterly useless.AndyJS said:
I'm not sure Angela Eagle is leadership material.Scott_P said:@benrileysmith: Two Labour sources: proposal is Angela Eagle runs against Corbyn while Tom Watson oversees as interim leader.
Which is why I voted for her in the YouGov poll of potential successors.
Got your three pounds ready for the next leadership vote of the Labour party.
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PeterC said:
London is not a state. It cannot therefore enter international treaties independently of the UK. Ditto Scotland. Sturgeon is talking nonsense.Jobabob said:@Morris_Dancer
London ALREADY IS devolved. We have been through this before. Khan is simply asking for extra powers, most of which I'll be will be centred around FOM and City passporting.
It has sod all to do with an English Parliament or a Yorkshire Parliament and everything to do with England taking leave of its senses and trying to pull the jewel in the EU's crown out of the EU against its wishes.
It's possible that it can negotiate work passporting, as you know.0 -
Big mistake by Boris to rule out a general election if he becomes leader IMO.0
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Right now it's increasingly hard to imagine any post general election path to a stable government.0
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I'm agnostic about it in a general sense, but with all the uncertainty atm, it really doesn't seem wise in this case. Particularly if some party decides to campaign on an intention to over-turn the referendum result.PlatoSaid said:
I can totally appreciate Labour members being very irked - over turning their mandate is undemocratic according to their own rules.John_M said:
If Corbyn still has the support of the membership, he's essentially politically immortal. They should rename him God-King of the Opposition.felix said:I'm waiting for Corbyn to be supported by TP & Plato on the grounds that he supported Leave really. One of them has been busy hacking away today at the traitorous Ruth Davidson - you know the one who saved the Scottish Tories a few weeks ago. The Brexiters take no prisoners
Either you believe in it - or you don't.
Personally, I think a GE is appropriate shortly after a new PM is appointed. I thought Gordon was wrong taking over from Tony, and the same applies to Cameron.0 -
So are the PLP going to put up Watson for PMQs tomorrow? That surely would be a humiliation too far.0
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EFTA voting is entirely by unanimity and each country gets one vote.JosiasJessop said:
Hi everyone,Paul_Bedfordshire said:The real question I guess is whether places like Poland and RoI also switch to EFTA once we join.
One thing concerns me slightly about EFTA: the ?four? existing EFTA states all have relatively small populations. How does voting / decision making inside EFTA occur?
We are leaving an organisation where one large member (Germany) is often seen as 'bullying' other members. Would the vastly large size of the UK (even without Scotland if they gain indy) just naturally lead us to 'bully' the other EFTA members just because of our different size and economic power?
On another note: at the beginning of last year I expected politics after the GE to be boring. Thanks to the referendum and Labour it's been quite the opposite!0 -
The always no doubt 100% accurate 'which x are you' thing on Guido is useful, as apparently I'm Crabb, and it lets me know one thing about him, which is more than before,
Wetter than an English summer, your #Crabbid joint-ticket with Saj stands for One Nation continuity-Cameron.0 -
Those closer to the action seem to think Watson and Eagle are doing a deal so that there will be only one candidate. I've no idea whether others will allow that to happen.PeterC said:
In what way would the City disallow it?Jobabob said:
Yvette would be great. Her against Boris would be the best combo for Labour. Following Sean's suggested ticket, above*surbiton said:
That is more or less what I wrote yesterday. Depends on who the Leader will be though. I am beginning to prefer Yvette, again. Failing which Tom Watson to carry the party.SeanT said:We're laughing now (and why not) - but if Labour do somehow prise Corbyn from the Precious, and then campaign on REMAIN against a Tory LEAVE they might do quite well; and if they campaign on a STAY IN SINGLE MARKET versus Bojo's LEAVE SINGLE MARKET they'd probably win
*Note that Boris will not run on a 'leave single market' ticket. He may be a clown but he is not mad. The City will not in any case allow such irresponsibility.
I think Yvette would be a fine choice, but rejected last time.0 -
Odds on option B please!Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Taffys, the 172 may form a new party. Or sigh, and hope for a bulk discount on the gimp suits they'll be wearing until the next election.
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Is it just me, or does the betting for next Labour leader look like the market for the Grand National?
Only three horses under 10/1, Watson and Eagle at 6/4 the double and the whole thing could be moot if JC wins the members' vote again.
Someone's gonna make money on this, but I can't see the wood for the trees.0 -
If 172 MPs resigned the Labour whip, would that make the SNP the Loyal Opposition?0
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It's a total non-story anyway, but that denial would have been issued regardless.Lowlander said:Reality kicks in.
https://twitter.com/JamieRoss7/status/747823211254059008
The interesting thing is that Sturgeon brought forward her trip to Brussels from next week to tomorrow. It seems to me she's been invited by Shultz and that's why she's moved her schedule up.
Of course Unionists will read what they want into it.0 -
If the people can rise up against the establishment about the EU, then the Labour party members can easily rise up and defeat the 176 disloyal MPs.
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3 more have resigned from the shadow cabinet apparently0
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You didn't take long to crater. From dreaming of a resurgent Commonwealth block to wanting to sign up to be a satellite of the EU, pronto. I can only conclude that Brexit is not turning out as you thought it would.Paul_Bedfordshire said:The real question I guess is whether places like Poland and RoI also switch to EFTA once we join.
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McCluskey: “The extraordinary behaviour of Labour MPs has achieved nothing beyond diverting attention from a Tory government in crisis.
“If anyone wants to change the Labour leadership, they must do it openly and democratically through an election, not through resignations and pointless posturing. If there has to be such an election, Jeremy Corbyn’s supporters throughout the movement will be ready for it.”
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At what point does Corbyn hanging on damage the chances of a candidate just like him but competent? Not that that would solve the problem of the members of course.0
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Differing legal advice. And the NEC's final decision is very unlikely to be overturnable in court.RochdalePioneers said:0 -
That was the PB consensus from when this was discussed at the time of his election. If he doesn't resign voluntarily, he's on the ballot automatically. There is no way of removing him against his will.RochdalePioneers said:0 -
Big mistake by Boris to rule out a general election if he becomes leader IMO.
Do you sense there's an appetite for a GE in the country?
I don't. Quite the opposite.0 -
A #SavingLabour website has been set up for people who want to send in a message saying they support calls for Jeremy Corbyn to resign. - https://www.savinglabour.com/
Their site moderators have my deepest sympathy...
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A potential candidate needs 50 nominations from MPs and MEPs according to the BBC:
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After 3 days of the Mirror running anti Corbyn stories their poll of readers now has it
Does Jeremy Corbyn need to quit?
YES 23%
NO 77%
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Two more resignations from Corbo's shadow cab:
Champion and a.n.other0 -
I do.rottenborough said:
That's no good, I don't have a bet on her!Scott_P said:@benrileysmith: Two Labour sources: proposal is Angela Eagle runs against Corbyn while Tom Watson oversees as interim leader.
But only about £20 at 50s :-).
One of a small portfolio of Labour Ladies for Leader.0 -
RochdalePioneers said:
I quoted the rule book earlier. Any challenger needs 20% of MPs (46). The incumbent doesn't need nominations, they are incumbent.Jobabob said:Does anyone know the Labour Party rules? Not sure incumbency gets him on the ballot and I think he may need 50 nominations to do so. He could be toast here.
Apparently that is not true – legal advice that the PLP has. In any case Corbyn is quite stark raving mad for refusing to resign. The PLP could now split, and may do so.0 -
It's an attempt to #SaveJez. If Corbyn is still there the GE will happen.taffys said:Big mistake by Boris to rule out a general election if he becomes leader IMO.
Do you sense there's an appetite for a GE in the country?
I don't. Quite the opposite.0 -
Staggering.
Soames says he will back Boris!!!!0 -
Can't see the labour party in its current form surviving this0
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Wrong. All such decisions [potentially] are.DanSmith said:
Differing legal advice. And the NEC's final decision is very unlikely to be overturnable in court.RochdalePioneers said:0 -
A GE in the Spring seems fair to me. I well recall how miffed I was about Gordon. I voted very reluctantly for Tony in 2005 - I'd never have chosen Gordon.AnneJGP said:
I'm agnostic about it in a general sense, but with all the uncertainty atm, it really doesn't seem wise in this case. Particularly if some party decides to campaign on an intention to over-turn the referendum result.PlatoSaid said:
I can totally appreciate Labour members being very irked - over turning their mandate is undemocratic according to their own rules.John_M said:
If Corbyn still has the support of the membership, he's essentially politically immortal. They should rename him God-King of the Opposition.felix said:I'm waiting for Corbyn to be supported by TP & Plato on the grounds that he supported Leave really. One of them has been busy hacking away today at the traitorous Ruth Davidson - you know the one who saved the Scottish Tories a few weeks ago. The Brexiters take no prisoners
Either you believe in it - or you don't.
Personally, I think a GE is appropriate shortly after a new PM is appointed. I thought Gordon was wrong taking over from Tony, and the same applies to Cameron.
I can't have one rule for my preferred side because it suits me.0 -
Top hole!MattW said:
I do.rottenborough said:
That's no good, I don't have a bet on her!Scott_P said:@benrileysmith: Two Labour sources: proposal is Angela Eagle runs against Corbyn while Tom Watson oversees as interim leader.
At 50s :-).0 -
Thanks.Richard_Tyndall said:
EFTA voting is entirely by unanimity and each country gets one vote.JosiasJessop said:
Hi everyone,Paul_Bedfordshire said:The real question I guess is whether places like Poland and RoI also switch to EFTA once we join.
One thing concerns me slightly about EFTA: the ?four? existing EFTA states all have relatively small populations. How does voting / decision making inside EFTA occur?
We are leaving an organisation where one large member (Germany) is often seen as 'bullying' other members. Would the vastly large size of the UK (even without Scotland if they gain indy) just naturally lead us to 'bully' the other EFTA members just because of our different size and economic power?
On another note: at the beginning of last year I expected politics after the GE to be boring. Thanks to the referendum and Labour it's been quite the opposite!0 -
I agree, there would probably be a low turnout. It might be good for the Tories but not necessarily for the country.taffys said:Big mistake by Boris to rule out a general election if he becomes leader IMO.
Do you sense there's an appetite for a GE in the country?
I don't. Quite the opposite.0 -
In fairness is the latter not directly out of the New Labour playbook?Scott_P said:0 -
Did Soames just back Boris on Sky? I was busy making a cup of tea.0
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That can only mean that Boris is planning to betray the Brexit camp.Richard_Tyndall said:Staggering.
Soames says he will back Boris!!!!0 -
Yeh, MEPs have been added into the mix since last time I believe.AndyJS said:A potential candidate needs 50 nominations from MPs and MEPs according to the BBC:
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How are you doing JJ? Hope you are still improving.JosiasJessop said:
Thanks.Richard_Tyndall said:
EFTA voting is entirely by unanimity and each country gets one vote.JosiasJessop said:
Hi everyone,Paul_Bedfordshire said:The real question I guess is whether places like Poland and RoI also switch to EFTA once we join.
One thing concerns me slightly about EFTA: the ?four? existing EFTA states all have relatively small populations. How does voting / decision making inside EFTA occur?
We are leaving an organisation where one large member (Germany) is often seen as 'bullying' other members. Would the vastly large size of the UK (even without Scotland if they gain indy) just naturally lead us to 'bully' the other EFTA members just because of our different size and economic power?
On another note: at the beginning of last year I expected politics after the GE to be boring. Thanks to the referendum and Labour it's been quite the opposite!0 -
Pulpstar said:
Don't the NEC interpret the rules, and isn't that stuffed with Jez placemen ?Jobabob said:Does anyone know the Labour Party rules? Not sure incumbency gets him on the ballot and I think he may need 50 nominations to do so. He could be toast here.
Think the centre-left has a majority on the NEC according to a post by NPXMP earlier0 -
Unless they are all running round saying now whatstjohn said:
I've no idea how Eagle would fare with the Labour membership but Nick P doesn't rate her chances or Watson's against Corbyn but thinks Cooper would make a contest of it.RealBritain said:
Seems odd. Eagle would never win amongst the members.Scott_P said:@benrileysmith: Two Labour sources: proposal is Angela Eagle runs against Corbyn while Tom Watson oversees as interim leader.
It would be crazy of the Labour PLP to go this far and then not field the candidate who has the best chance of beating Corbyn with Labour members. I don't know who that would be but the PLP ought to have a good idea and should get that person to stand.0 -
Yep - Boris is one of the #Bridiots.williamglenn said:
That can only mean that Boris is planning to betray the Brexit camp.Richard_Tyndall said:Staggering.
Soames says he will back Boris!!!!
Row back all the way....0 -
GeorgeMonbiot @GeorgeMonbiotRazedabode said:Can't see the labour party in its current form surviving this
I fear that may be the end of the Labour party. Just when we need it most.0
