Not sure what is more embarrassing. The England performance or the casual bigoted arrogant commentary from the commentators.
See, kle4 didnt agree with me. But its good to see quite a few English people agreeing. The commentary on England games is what drives other home nations off wanting England to do well.
Not sure what is more embarrassing. The England performance or the casual bigoted arrogant commentary from the commentators.
See, kle4 didnt agree with me. But its good to see quite a few English people agreeing. The commentary on England games is what drives other home nations off wanting England to do well.
100% That and the behaviour of England fans and the terrible way the media tried to portray the as the victims.
Do English people get embarrassed by the commentaries on England games?
I feel envious of the other home nations for whom being at the tournament is a big thing. Tyldesley just over does his commentary.
I have a theory that if England games had commentaries by Scots in Scotland, etc, then people in the other home nations would be much, much more favourable towards England.
And yet, when I hear Gerry Armstrong doing a Northern Ireland game I really want them to win? Doesn't work with Robbie Savage and Wales, mind.
Because there is a pragmatism from commentators in most of the home nattions. Savage is very much from the English school of "its all biased against us, every foul should be a red card". Scotland games (even against minnows) do not go in saying "we'll win this".
Savage on the Wales games sounded just like the English commentators and pundits do on England games. Armstrong sounded the way you would want a commentator to sound. Hopeful but not arrogant.
I've completely emotionally disinvested from English national football. They've been so mediocre for so long they just bore me, now, and I NEVER anticipate a victory
It is odd tho. How a country with so many players and so much money and such a strong domestic culture could be SO crap for SO long, barely troubling semi finals in 40 years.
It is a statistical anomaly.
Part of the problem with UK football is that the premier league is stuffed with foreign players because EU rules mean free movement for them so its easier for the clubs to import players than bring on good youths which in turn means the national side suffers.
Cricket faced a similar problem and solved it by banning first class teams from having more than one overseas player per team which worked because few overseas cricket players had EU passports.
So leaving the EU may do wonders for the national side in a few years.
That argument would hold more water if it wasn't for the fact that all the other (EU) national teams seem to do better than us.
The England team has not been anything but less than the sum of its parts more than once. People can chalk that up to the EU but if they do, I'll file them under particularly thick.
Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound It's usually wrong to swear, even on Twitter, but what a load of abject shite but a bunch of frightened talentless overpaid c****
Not sure what is more embarrassing. The England performance or the casual bigoted arrogant commentary from the commentators.
See, kle4 didnt agree with me. But its good to see quite a few English people agreeing. The commentary on England games is what drives other home nations off wanting England to do well.
Oh, I totally agree. Clive Tyldesley in particular.
English sport is in pretty good shape right now. In rugby, England have just won a series in Australia for the first time ever. In cricket, they're performing fantastically against Sri Lanka (admittedly Sri Lanka are suffering from the retirement f several great players). Only in football are England terrible. Neither of these sports gets to be ruined by ITV though, except in the rugby world cup, where England were awful.
Again - I can't emphasise this strongly enough - I blame ITV.
The better side won. Well done Iceland. Never to be forgotten.
Worst performance by England ever. Damn lucky it was only 2-1. After the first 2 games Sterling should have been on a plane home not on the pitch. Kane was so out of form in the first 2 games the bench would be generous. To start with both was just suicidal, even against Iceland.
Not sure what is more embarrassing. The England performance or the casual bigoted arrogant commentary from the commentators.
See, kle4 didnt agree with me. But its good to see quite a few English people agreeing. The commentary on England games is what drives other home nations off wanting England to do well.
Oh, I totally agree. Clive Tyldesley in particular.
English sport is in pretty good shape right now. In rugby, England have just won a series in Australia for the first time ever. In cricket, they're performing fantastically against Sri Lanka (admittedly Sri Lanka are suffering from the retirement f several great players). Only in football are England terrible. Neither of these sports gets to be ruined by ITV though, except in the rugby world cup, where England were awful.
Again - I can't emphasise this strongly enough - I blame ITV.
BBC are as bad for English Football (and with Robbie Savage as bad for Weldh football).
A sad fortnight to be English. First we get the fucking morons disgracing our country saying "fuck off Europe, we're voting out", then they win and vote us out, now we lose and are out.
A cheering thought for suicidalists like Southam. Our nadir at rugby was just last year when we exited our very own World Cup in Round 1. Total humiliation. Like this.
A year later we are grand slam champions, we whitewashed Oz in Oz, we're world ranked number 2 and we have a sensational team.
I doubt we can achieve quite such a turnaround in football quite so quickly, but get the right coach, with the right attitude, and it is surprising how quickly hidden talent can be unleashed.
This is a humiliation of such magnitude that it might do the trick.
Splits in the German coalition over Brexit. The SPD aren't happy about Merkel not pushing for a quick invocation of Article 50 and are worried about populists in other countries exploiting the situation if there isn't quick clarity on Britain leaving.
Apparently all kids in Iceland have an app on their phone which they bump with boy / girl they fancy in a bar to check if they are distantly related enough to get it on...Apparently it is common to spend the night finding everybody is your second cousin or closer...
A cheering thought for suicidalists like Southam. Our nadir at rugby was just last year when we exited our very own World Cup in Round 1. Total humiliation. Like this.
A year later we are grand slam champions, we whitewashed Oz in Oz, we're world ranked number 2 and we have a sensational team.
I doubt we can achieve quite such a turnaround in football quite so quickly, but get the right coach, with the right attitude, and it is surprising how quickly hidden talent can be unleashed.
I gave up letting the England football team depress me years ago. But that was poor.
The England football team is uniquely awful. The talent is there, but the management is relentlessly uninspiring and cautious, and that puts too much pressure on the players.
Iceland better fucking win the competition, otherwise I'm down to Wembley with me pitchfork and flaming torch. Who's with me?
France or Germany will win it. They are a class above the rest. Italy are not as good but could end up with a sneak win. I think the rest are also rans.
But, Wayne Rooney is world class. That what The Sun tells me.
Or to give it more colour. Cristiano Ronaldo is a jerk with an incredible work ethic and desire for self-improvement. So was David Beckham. Wayne Rooney is a potato headed granny enthusasist who gave up trying to improve some years ago. He remains a jerk.
I suspect all of our (former) friends colleagues and partners are rejoicing at the result. A fucking clusterfuck of a fortnight in a horribly diminished nation
At least leaving the EU hasn't made us any worse at football.
My bright side is that we won't be playing France in Paris. Don't get me wrong, I'm not glad we've lost, but it does avoid a potentially sticky situation.
The most profitable betting evening of my life (so far). SpreadEx has sent me a cheque, and tomorrow I shall bank it
I did mine from Laddies in cash. Two of the notes were £50s: I'd never seen one before - they're quite ugly, tbh.
On a less comfortable note. If I remember correctly, your mortgage is in USD. I that is the case, then you will probably need to look at this
I have a US Dollar mortgage on my house in the US, and a Sterling one on my house in the UK.
My sole bit of financial advice is... always match assets and liabilities
I'm trying to work out what the mechanism for that might be. I got as far as an extendable shed before I realised you probably meant savings in two different currencies...
But, Wayne Rooney is world class. That what The Sun tells me.
Or to give it more colour. Cristiano Ronaldo is a jerk with an incredible work ethic and desire for self-improvement. So was David Beckham. Wayne Rooney is a potato headed granny enthusasist who gave up trying so years ago. He remains a jerk.
There was a great video a couple of years ago of first day of pre season Rooney vs Ronaldo...was was overweight and blowing & the other was ripped and pumping out press up like no tomorrow.
I'd like to say I'm not the kind of limp wristed, self hating, sneering, metropolitan guardian reader who is secretly quite pleased when the England football team crash out of international comps sparing us weeks more of this collective self delusion. But I am.
Iceland better fucking win the competition, otherwise I'm down to Wembley with me pitchfork and flaming torch. Who's with me?
France or Germany will win it. They are a class above the rest. Italy are not as good but could end up with a sneak win. I think the rest are also rans.
I watch England in the Euros & Worlds, in much the same way that a medieval penitent would don a hairshirt and flagellate themselves.
It's my way of thanking the Deity that I'm a rugby fan.
The better side won. Well done Iceland. Never to be forgotten.
Worst performance by England ever. Damn lucky it was only 2-1. After the first 2 games Sterling should have been on a plane home not on the pitch. Kane was so out of form in the first 2 games the bench would be generous. To start with both was just suicidal, even against Iceland.
After the first 2 games? After the first 20mins of the Russia game he should have been hooked and never seen again.
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On a less comfortable note. If I remember correctly, your mortgage is in USD. I that is the case, then you will probably need to look at this
But enough of the UK, the football team were just as bad.
A bad week to be sure.
Iceland, on the other hand, a beautiful country and people, I might move there soon!
It's usually wrong to swear, even on Twitter, but what a load of abject shite but a bunch of frightened talentless overpaid c****
English sport is in pretty good shape right now. In rugby, England have just won a series in Australia for the first time ever. In cricket, they're performing fantastically against Sri Lanka (admittedly Sri Lanka are suffering from the retirement f several great players). Only in football are England terrible. Neither of these sports gets to be ruined by ITV though, except in the rugby world cup, where England were awful.
Again - I can't emphasise this strongly enough - I blame ITV.
Its worse when your team plays better and loses.
England second rate throughout the tournament, apart from second half against Wales.
Woys rank wankers
Big fucking LOL
My sole bit of financial advice is... always match assets and liabilities
At least leaving the EU hasn't made us any worse at football.
http://icelandreview.com/news/2016/06/27/efta-plans-cooperation-uk
I dont get how Vardy did not start every game. It's implausible.
And in the end England went out to a team playing off the Leicester City playbook.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/spd-druck-bei-brexit-die-tempomacher-a-1100044.html
https://twitter.com/rcolvile/status/747533634626818048
The England football team is uniquely awful. The talent is there, but the management is relentlessly uninspiring and cautious, and that puts too much pressure on the players.
https://twitter.com/went1955/status/747532550365646848
By blaming the team, players, manager, they take the spotlight on how stupid their own analysis was up to the point of defeat.
It's my way of thanking the Deity that I'm a rugby fan.