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  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,786
    Maybe we should just send the rugby team to play the football as well? At the very least their combined muscle mass could form an impenetrable block on the goal, then we can win on penalties.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @Phillip_Blond: Finally freed of the shackles of Europe we can turn now with great confidence to the World Cup #distantopulentshores
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,107
    edited June 2016
    SeanT said:

    Jobabob said:

    EPG said:

    The Europeans have a word called Schadenfreude.

    I suspect all of our (former) friends colleagues and partners are rejoicing at the result. A fucking clusterfuck of a fortnight in a horribly diminished nation
    Nah. We told the fucking EU where to go. We did what no other European nation, I don't think, would dare to do, in an in-out referendum. We were bullied and menaced, and we still told them where to go.

    However you look at it, that is quite a gritty attitude from a fairly indomitable nation.

    It may turn out to be a disaster, sure: but you have to admire the gumption.
    Or maybe we're just spoilt assholes.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,844
    OK Iceland, so we're quits for Gordon Brown fucking you over, right?
  • ParistondaParistonda Posts: 1,844
    Germany will win this tournament. Belgium-Germany final.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 40,046

    Apparently all kids in Iceland have an app on their phone which they bump with boy / girl they fancy in a bar to check if they are distantly related enough to get it on...Apparently it is common to spend the night finding everybody is your second cousin or closer...

    I did a visit to a genetics/DNA lab when I was there once. They have records for 80% of the population going back about 300 years. They license out the data for research projects in various parts of the world.

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,969
    HHey look on the positive there are going to be 1000s of brits back early.from France with euros burning holes in their pockets & they will get a lot.more pounds for them...
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    SeanT said:

    Jobabob said:

    EPG said:

    The Europeans have a word called Schadenfreude.

    I suspect all of our (former) friends colleagues and partners are rejoicing at the result. A fucking clusterfuck of a fortnight in a horribly diminished nation
    Nah. We told the fucking EU where to go. We did what no other European nation, I don't think, would dare to do, in an in-out referendum. We were bullied and menaced, and we still told them where to go.

    However you look at it, that is quite a gritty attitude from a fairly indomitable nation.

    It may turn out to be a disaster, sure: but you have to admire the gumption.
    We still have plenty of friends, colleagues and partners.

    Why has pb turned into this endless pityfest? We're in the process of leaving a fairly dysfunctional bureaucracy, not the Garden of Eden.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Roy resigns
  • ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    Hodgson quits.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,969
    edited June 2016

    Apparently all kids in Iceland have an app on their phone which they bump with boy / girl they fancy in a bar to check if they are distantly related enough to get it on...Apparently it is common to spend the night finding everybody is your second cousin or closer...

    I did a visit to a genetics/DNA lab when I was there once. They have records for 80% of the population going back about 300 years. They license out the data for research projects in various parts of the world.

    Yes I saw a documentary on that. Was fascinating.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @AlanRoden: That was absolutely woeful. But we're not out of the tournament until we invoke Article 50, right?
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    Did he forget to ask them to complete passes?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,921
    edited June 2016
    Why I love Ben Page, he just retweeted this

    https://twitter.com/synthjock/status/747531394444894212
  • LowlanderLowlander Posts: 941
    DavidL said:

    John_M said:

    Iceland better fucking win the competition, otherwise I'm down to Wembley with me pitchfork and flaming torch. Who's with me?

    Iceland will get beaten by France maybe 5-0. They are shit. It's just that England are worse.
    The Icelandic defence (remember they won their group in qualification) is actually really strong. The French defence are mobile enough to stop them though and I don't see them being sucker punched the way England were.

    I think 1 or 2 nil is probably right.

    However, you are right. England were worse than shit.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,307
    Hodgson gone.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,844
    Hodgson "They have done everything I asked of them"

    Maybe you should have asked them to win, Roy....
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,908
    Scott_P said:

    Roy resigns

    I didn't know the England football manager was in the Labour shadow cabinet?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,786
    dr_spyn said:

    Hodgson gone.

    [insert obvious shadow cabinet never heard of them joke here]
  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792
    Scott_P said:

    Roy resigns

    Is he going to hang around until October like his fellow flop Dave ?
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    Jobabob said:

    EPG said:

    The Europeans have a word called Schadenfreude.

    I suspect all of our (former) friends colleagues and partners are rejoicing at the result. A fucking clusterfuck of a fortnight in a horribly diminished nation
    Nah. We told the fucking EU where to go. We did what no other European nation, I don't think, would dare to do, in an in-out referendum. We were bullied and menaced, and we still told them where to go.

    However you look at it, that is quite a gritty attitude from a fairly indomitable nation.

    It may turn out to be a disaster, sure: but you have to admire the gumption.
    Or maybe we're just spoilt assholes.
    Yeah, maybe, but cussed and spirited assholes
    Most assholes are.
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    Royxit
  • Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    10 out of 10 Roy, make it quick and don't wait about.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @faisalislam: Roy Hodgson resigns: clears the way for Tory party leadership run.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,969

    Germany will win this tournament. Belgium-Germany final.

    Germany just turned it on with ease in their last game.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,196
    Leaving Euro 2016 doesn't mean we give up our right to play in the final, right?
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    SeanT said:

    Diminished. We are diminished.

    Oh give over. Did you see us whitewash Australia at rugby, in Australia?

    We just have some weird hoodoo in football - shit coaches and nervous, overrated, underperforming players. Eventually, sometime before I die, we will sort it out. I hope.
    To be fair, they did look out on their feet so maybe there was some sort of low level viral infection in the camp ... But Hodgson should never have been appointed, even if the only other candidate was Harry Redknapp. Maybe that's the real problem with the Premier League: not foreign players but foreign managers.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,107
    Can someone send a dvd of Roys press conference to JC.
  • YellowSubmarineYellowSubmarine Posts: 2,740
    edited June 2016
    On the positive side if you've freezer space they'll be loads of cheap Barbeque meat and pizzas in the Supermarkets this week. Always worth using the price correction after an England departure.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,804
    I'm watching the staggeringly good Layer Cake.

    England = The Duke
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,773
    edited June 2016
    In other news - David Miliband is now 2nd favourite for next Lab leader (behind Tom Watson).
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    Nice to see someone admit they have failed and leave gracefully. Cameron, Hodgson....
  • LowlanderLowlander Posts: 941
    matt said:


    You seem to have missed loving sheep too much or is purely a Welsh pursuit?

    Are you suggesting that even sheep reject the advances of the English?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @StigAbell: Cameron: quits with dignity.
    Hodgson: quits with dignity.
    Corbyn: attends a mad parade in his own honour.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    He said young and hungry about his team - lol
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    edited June 2016

    Germany will win this tournament. Belgium-Germany final.

    Italy are Germanys perpetual tournament nemesis. The Italians always go through.
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838

    On the positive side if you've freezer space they'll be lads of cheap Barbeque meat and pizzas in the Supermarkets this week. Always worth using the price correction after an England departure.

    like
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    MikeL said:

    In other news - David Miliband is now 2nd favourite for next Lab leader (behind Tom Watson).

    There are few questions to which the answer is more Miliband.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @SocialHistoryOx: Diane Abbott says she stands by Roy Hodgson.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Thrak said:

    Embarrassing and directionless.

    But enough of the UK, the football team were just as bad.

    A bad week to be sure.

    Iceland, on the other hand, a beautiful country and people, I might move there soon!

    If you can't stand the cold, don't.
  • steve_garnersteve_garner Posts: 1,019
    You really are a nasty piece of work.
    Jobabob said:

    A sad fortnight to be English. First we get the fucking morons disgracing our country saying "fuck off Europe, we're voting out", then they win and vote us out, now we lose and are out.

  • mattmatt Posts: 3,789
    Lowlander said:

    matt said:


    You seem to have missed loving sheep too much or is purely a Welsh pursuit?

    Are you suggesting that even sheep reject the advances of the English?
    The English can't hit the target....
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,118
    Scott_P said:

    @Phillip_Blond: Finally freed of the shackles of Europe we can turn now with great confidence to the World Cup #distantopulentshores

    Not even characters to mention that the plucky Icelanders aren't in the EU...
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    SeanT said:

    Jobabob said:

    EPG said:

    The Europeans have a word called Schadenfreude.

    I suspect all of our (former) friends colleagues and partners are rejoicing at the result. A fucking clusterfuck of a fortnight in a horribly diminished nation
    Nah. We told the fucking EU where to go. We did what no other European nation, I don't think, would dare to do, in an in-out referendum. We were bullied and menaced, and we still told them where to go.

    However you look at it, that is quite a gritty attitude from a fairly indomitable nation.

    It may turn out to be a disaster, sure: but you have to admire the gumption.
    Indomitable is the high of the bipolar phase. Stubborn and petulant is the low
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @adambanksdotcom: England team now feel they were misled about consequences of letting goals in, didn't think other team would actually win
  • pbr2013pbr2013 Posts: 649
    Lowlander said:

    DavidL said:

    John_M said:

    Iceland better fucking win the competition, otherwise I'm down to Wembley with me pitchfork and flaming torch. Who's with me?

    Iceland will get beaten by France maybe 5-0. They are shit. It's just that England are worse.
    The Icelandic defence (remember they won their group in qualification) is actually really strong. The French defence are mobile enough to stop them though and I don't see them being sucker punched the way England were.

    I think 1 or 2 nil is probably right.

    However, you are right. England were worse than shit.
    The French can't defend set pieces either.
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838
    MikeL said:

    In other news - David Miliband is now 2nd favourite for next Lab leader (behind Tom Watson).

    What on Earth are people thinking of?
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    dr_spyn said:
    Come on Hunt, let's make it the best of five. Good lord.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Scott_P said:

    @StigAbell: Cameron: quits with dignity.
    Hodgson: quits with dignity.
    Corbyn: attends a mad parade in his own honour.

    I must admit,I'm beginning to admire corbyn,he's a fighter.
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    Stuart Lancaster is available i believe
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,921
    Wanderer said:

    MikeL said:

    In other news - David Miliband is now 2nd favourite for next Lab leader (behind Tom Watson).

    What on Earth are people thinking of?
    Simples.

    Is an easy way to avoid money laundering checks
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,969
    Itv talking about Southgate...good god...he is Roy jnr....
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503

    Scott_P said:

    @StigAbell: Cameron: quits with dignity.
    Hodgson: quits with dignity.
    Corbyn: attends a mad parade in his own honour.

    I must admit,I'm beginning to admire corbyn,he's a fighter.
    Corbyn = Cersei.
  • mattmatt Posts: 3,789

    SeanT said:

    Diminished. We are diminished.

    Oh give over. Did you see us whitewash Australia at rugby, in Australia?

    We just have some weird hoodoo in football - shit coaches and nervous, overrated, underperforming players. Eventually, sometime before I die, we will sort it out. I hope.
    To be fair, they did look out on their feet so maybe there was some sort of low level viral infection in the camp ... But Hodgson should never have been appointed, even if the only other candidate was Harry Redknapp. Maybe that's the real problem with the Premier League: not foreign players but foreign managers.
    If Harry Redknapp is the answer would his dog have issued the invoices?
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Eddie howe for me.
  • ThrakThrak Posts: 494
    MikeK said:

    Thrak said:

    Embarrassing and directionless.

    But enough of the UK, the football team were just as bad.

    A bad week to be sure.

    Iceland, on the other hand, a beautiful country and people, I might move there soon!

    If you can't stand the cold, don't.
    Love the cold, love snow, love ice, I was there last year and can't wait to go back. Music scene and culture are good too.
  • LowlanderLowlander Posts: 941
    MikeL said:

    In other news - David Miliband is now 2nd favourite for next Lab leader (behind Tom Watson).

    Odds on Roy Hodgson? Maybe he resigned for Shadow Sports.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,786
    dr_spyn said:
    If it's not about reversing the first vote (political suicide, that), what's the point of a second referendum - the Leave campaign, being the establishment now, might find the people will give the 'wrong' answer again.
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069

    Eddie howe for me.

    Being serious I agree but he's used to working with triers
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807

    You really are a nasty piece of work.

    Jobabob said:

    A sad fortnight to be English. First we get the fucking morons disgracing our country saying "fuck off Europe, we're voting out", then they win and vote us out, now we lose and are out.

    Was that aimed at me?
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Kuenssberg: Jeremy Hunt considering a leadership bid.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Is the Iceland manager not available after this tournament?
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,081
    SeanT said:

    Jobabob said:

    EPG said:

    The Europeans have a word called Schadenfreude.

    I suspect all of our (former) friends colleagues and partners are rejoicing at the result. A fucking clusterfuck of a fortnight in a horribly diminished nation
    Nah. We told the fucking EU where to go. We did what no other European nation, I don't think, would dare to do, in an in-out referendum. We were bullied and menaced, and we still told them where to go.

    However you look at it, that is quite a gritty attitude from a fairly indomitable nation.

    It may turn out to be a disaster, sure: but you have to admire the gumption.
    In other words, we are idiotic. Nothing to be proud of. We've been humiliated - we feel small right now, licking our wounds and contemplating our stupidity.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,786
    edited June 2016
    John_M said:

    Scott_P said:

    @StigAbell: Cameron: quits with dignity.
    Hodgson: quits with dignity.
    Corbyn: attends a mad parade in his own honour.

    I must admit,I'm beginning to admire corbyn,he's a fighter.
    Corbyn = Cersei.
    Arrogant, self-destructive and pursues short term advantage at the cost of everything, subtle as a mace and also a bit dim?
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    John_M said:

    Scott_P said:

    @StigAbell: Cameron: quits with dignity.
    Hodgson: quits with dignity.
    Corbyn: attends a mad parade in his own honour.

    I must admit,I'm beginning to admire corbyn,he's a fighter.
    Corbyn = Cersei.
    So has Corbyn lit the touch paper in the parliamentary catacombs?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,921
    AndyJS said:

    Kuenssberg: Jeremy Hunt considering a leadership bid.

    Please, please, please.

    Some of us are on at 66/1
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 18,259
    MikeL said:

    In other news - David Miliband is now 2nd favourite for next Lab leader (behind Tom Watson).

    Bizarre. Is he going to be parachuted into Batley & Spen? If not, he's not eligible. And would the Corbynites really allow it? Would the local party allow it (I don't know the selection process). And then even if he is selected, would he win a vote against Corbyn?

    A more plausible route is Corbyn staying on to a GE at which Miliband returns, and DM wins the contest thereafter but still - 2nd favourite? Nuts.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,969
    dr_spyn said:
    He isn't suggesting what you think...
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    John_M said:

    dr_spyn said:
    Come on Hunt, let's make it the best of five. Good lord.
    Is this jeremy or Tristram ?
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    kle4 said:

    John_M said:

    Scott_P said:

    @StigAbell: Cameron: quits with dignity.
    Hodgson: quits with dignity.
    Corbyn: attends a mad parade in his own honour.

    I must admit,I'm beginning to admire corbyn,he's a fighter.
    Corbyn = Cersei.
    Arrogant, self-destructive and pursues short term advantage at the cost of everything, subtle as a mace and also a bit dim?
    I think you have gotten my drift :)
  • mattmatt Posts: 3,789
    AndyJS said:

    Kuenssberg: Jeremy Hunt considering a leadership bid.

    Roy's only been gone for 10 minutes though....
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    At least you knew Roy wanted his team to win and put eleven men on the pitch
    More than can be said for Jez
  • not_on_firenot_on_fire Posts: 4,449
    kle4 said:

    dr_spyn said:
    If it's not about reversing the first vote (political suicide, that), what's the point of a second referendum - the Leave campaign, being the establishment now, might find the people will give the 'wrong' answer again.
    Indeed. What happens if the deal is rejected in the referendum
    There will be a clamour to have a "don't leave after all" option on the ballot.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,773
    edited June 2016
    If there is a referendum on the Brexit deal and the public says No then what happens?

    Negotiate a different deal? On what terms?

    We would still be leaving having triggered Article 50.

    Makes no sense.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,969

    John_M said:

    dr_spyn said:
    Come on Hunt, let's make it the best of five. Good lord.
    Is this jeremy or Tristram ?
    ItIt's jeremy, but he isn't suggesting quite what the headline suggests. He is saying we leave, we do a deal, we vote on the deal (or GE)
  • steve_garnersteve_garner Posts: 1,019
    Yup.
    Jobabob said:

    You really are a nasty piece of work.

    Jobabob said:

    A sad fortnight to be English. First we get the fucking morons disgracing our country saying "fuck off Europe, we're voting out", then they win and vote us out, now we lose and are out.

    Was that aimed at me?
  • ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133

    Eddie howe for me.

    A great pick, just because of what people can say when he inevitably quits in disgrace.

    And that's Howe... for now.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,307
    ITV screened Iceland ad a few minutes ago. Clever timing.
  • ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    murali_s said:

    SeanT said:

    Jobabob said:

    EPG said:

    The Europeans have a word called Schadenfreude.

    I suspect all of our (former) friends colleagues and partners are rejoicing at the result. A fucking clusterfuck of a fortnight in a horribly diminished nation
    Nah. We told the fucking EU where to go. We did what no other European nation, I don't think, would dare to do, in an in-out referendum. We were bullied and menaced, and we still told them where to go.

    However you look at it, that is quite a gritty attitude from a fairly indomitable nation.

    It may turn out to be a disaster, sure: but you have to admire the gumption.
    In other words, we are idiotic. Nothing to be proud of. We've been humiliated - we feel small right now, licking our wounds and contemplating our stupidity.
    Speak for yourself.
  • LowlanderLowlander Posts: 941
    Scott_P said:

    Is the Iceland manager not available after this tournament?

    Michael O'Neil is a remarkable manager. I think England might want to consider him.
  • mattmatt Posts: 3,789

    John_M said:

    dr_spyn said:
    Come on Hunt, let's make it the best of five. Good lord.
    Is this jeremy or Tristram ?
    ItIt's jeremy, but he isn't suggesting quite what the headline suggests. He is saying we leave, we do a deal, we vote on the deal (or GE)
    That would be the usual Telegraph misrep that they do to everyone other than Johnson, then. There will be a lot of favours to be called in I f he does becone PM.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    What a sobering time this is.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,832

    John_M said:

    dr_spyn said:
    Come on Hunt, let's make it the best of five. Good lord.
    Is this jeremy or Tristram ?
    We could have a pair of Hunts facing each other at PMQs every week.

    (Insert punchline here)
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    Ca

    Yup.

    Jobabob said:

    You really are a nasty piece of work.

    Jobabob said:

    A sad fortnight to be English. First we get the fucking morons disgracing our country saying "fuck off Europe, we're voting out", then they win and vote us out, now we lose and are out.

    Was that aimed at me?
    Care to explain it?
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    murali_s said:

    SeanT said:

    Jobabob said:

    EPG said:

    The Europeans have a word called Schadenfreude.

    I suspect all of our (former) friends colleagues and partners are rejoicing at the result. A fucking clusterfuck of a fortnight in a horribly diminished nation
    Nah. We told the fucking EU where to go. We did what no other European nation, I don't think, would dare to do, in an in-out referendum. We were bullied and menaced, and we still told them where to go.

    However you look at it, that is quite a gritty attitude from a fairly indomitable nation.

    It may turn out to be a disaster, sure: but you have to admire the gumption.
    In other words, we are idiotic. Nothing to be proud of. We've been humiliated - we feel small right now, licking our wounds and contemplating our stupidity.
    Speak for yourself.
    Agree.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Labour MPs warned about their safety after Corbyn demo...
    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/labour-mps-advised-personal-safety-pro-corbyn-demo/
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    Scott_P said:
    The Telegraph which was egging on this embarrassing clusterfuck. Ho fucking ho
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    Scott_P said:

    Is the Iceland manager not available after this tournament?

    Unfortunately not. He's a dentist in Iceland so too busy.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,969
    Lowlander said:

    Scott_P said:

    Is the Iceland manager not available after this tournament?

    Michael O'Neil is a remarkable manager. I think England might want to consider him.
    The idiots of the FA could have got him years ago & messed him about.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,307

    Itv talking about Southgate...good god...he is Roy jnr....

    Perhaps he might practice penalty taking.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,786
    MikeL said:

    If there is a referendum on the Brexit deal and the public says No then what happens?

    Negotiate a different deal? On what terms?

    We would still be leaving having triggered Article 50.

    Makes no sense.

    Exactly - honestly, a 'are you sure?' rerun makes more sense than what he seems to be suggesting.
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    Loving wrighty
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,196

    dr_spyn said:
    He isn't suggesting what you think...
    The red lines that are emerging are being in the single market and restrictions on free movement. EEA/EFTA won't wash following a campaign based on immigration.

    What if the easiest way to achieve that is a new deal within the EU?
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,307
    Perhaps the Icelandic players are promised fermented shark if they lose.
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