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  • Sean_F
    Sean_F Posts: 39,132
    tyson said:

    FF43 said:

    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. Song, both the campaigns have been rife with exaggeration, misleading statements and deceit. Picking one out for truthful loveliness is like selecting the most fragrant cowpat.

    A plague on both your houses is likely to be a vote for the status quo.
    Not really. A remain vote will be a repudiation of the nauseous, vile, mendacious Out campaign, and a huge political victory for David Cameron and George Osborne and their campaign. I'll probably even be tempted to lend hopefully PM George Osborne my vote for the 2020 election if Labour doesn't get its act together by then.
    A campaign which threatens war, economic disaster, and is fronted by a Chancellor who threatens massive cuts and tax rises if we vote the wrong way is in no position to claim the moral high ground.
  • chestnut
    chestnut Posts: 7,341
    edited June 2016
    http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0008/191861/Plymouth-UKPGE-electoral-data-report-final-WEB.pdf

    Almost 7.6 million postal votes were issued -16.4% of the entire electorate. This represented an increase of 1.1 percentage points and more than half a million more voters than in 2010.

    85.8% of those with a postal ballot returned it. By way of contrast, only 63.2% of those electors required to vote ‘in person’ did so.

    The number of postal votes at the count was one in five of the total. In the North East region of England more than a third of all votes were cast by post.

  • taffys
    taffys Posts: 9,753
    I still have no idea which side is going to win. One thing's for sure though - I wouldn't be wanting to pile my banker bonus on Remain at the Betfair odds today....

    Who says the vast sums being matched on Betfair are backed by real money? I'm wondering if there will be problems with widespread defaults.
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    RobC said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    RobC said:

    Remain price now 1/5 and still tightening. Let's not beat around the bush Cox aligned with the Farage poster has sunk Leave below the waterline. Could now be 55-45 Remain or better.

    If I had a pound for every time someone had said on here Leave/Remain is now a done deal..
    You'd be lying to yourself if you don't suspect something's definitely changed this time. It all hinges on the flaky 10% if you like. They want to go with the mood. the mood now has turned.
    The mood has changed several times and may yet again.
  • Sean_F
    Sean_F Posts: 39,132
    RobC said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    RobC said:

    Remain price now 1/5 and still tightening. Let's not beat around the bush Cox aligned with the Farage poster has sunk Leave below the waterline. Could now be 55-45 Remain or better.

    If I had a pound for every time someone had said on here Leave/Remain is now a done deal..
    You'd be lying to yourself if you don't suspect something's definitely changed this time. It all hinges on the flaky 10% if you like. They want to go with the mood. the mood now has turned.
    Something may have changed, or lots of people may be telling each other that something has changed. Time will tell.
  • Roger
    Roger Posts: 20,744
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. Song, both the campaigns have been rife with exaggeration, misleading statements and deceit. Picking one out for truthful loveliness is like selecting the most fragrant cowpat.

    I think there's a huge difference between some dodgy statistics and predicating your whole campaign on three WHOPPERS!! Turkey-EU Army-£350million a week.

    I said last week that the big question was whether LEAVE could disguise the cracks for the next ten days. I'm not sure they can
  • CD13
    CD13 Posts: 6,386
    If Remain wins, I shall merely wait another 41 years to vote Leave again. I'll only be 107 - a mere stripling compared to Jack W.
  • CarlottaVance
    CarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    taffys said:

    The Cox Wail fest is the establishment talking to themselves, in my view.

    The death of Jo Cox is no more tragic than a single soldier dying in Afghanistan to joe public, I reckon.

    Whisper it, but maybe less.

    Any death is a tragedy - but for soldiers its an occupational hazard - are you saying it should be for politicians too?
  • nunu
    nunu Posts: 6,024
    edited June 2016
    mobile.twitter.com/vote_leave/status/744848303498502145?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
  • MarqueeMark
    MarqueeMark Posts: 55,458
    Roger said:

    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. Song, both the campaigns have been rife with exaggeration, misleading statements and deceit. Picking one out for truthful loveliness is like selecting the most fragrant cowpat.

    I think there's a huge difference between some dodgy statistics and predicating your whole campaign on three WHOPPERS!! Turkey-EU Army-£350million a week.

    I said last week that the big question was whether LEAVE could disguise the cracks for the next ten days. I'm not sure they can
    I think LEAVE could. But when Farage is intent on taking a jack-hammer to those cracks...
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    taffys said:

    I still have no idea which side is going to win. One thing's for sure though - I wouldn't be wanting to pile my banker bonus on Remain at the Betfair odds today....

    Who says the vast sums being matched on Betfair are backed by real money? I'm wondering if there will be problems with widespread defaults.

    The killer is up in court again this afternoon and can be pretty much be relied upon to say something outrageous.

    Which will be heavily reported.
  • Paul_Bedfordshire
    Paul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    Found the source. Peter from Putney who is one of the more reliable chaps here posted this at 6.58 this morning:

    "Why do you say that? Because the elderly are the largest sector appling fo postal vote I imagine. I recall reading here on PB recently that approximately 27% of the electorate had applied for a postal vote. Since the act of voting involves rather less effort, presumably the percentage of actual postal voters will be somewhat higher than 27%."
  • Sean_F
    Sean_F Posts: 39,132
    Casino_Royale said:

    RobC said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    RobC said:

    Remain price now 1/5 and still tightening. Let's not beat around the bush Cox aligned with the Farage poster has sunk Leave below the waterline. Could now be 55-45 Remain or better.

    If I had a pound for every time someone had said on here Leave/Remain is now a done deal..
    You'd be lying to yourself if you don't suspect something's definitely changed this time. It all hinges on the flaky 10% if you like. They want to go with the mood. the mood now has turned.
    The mood has changed several times and may yet again.
    And quite often, the poll numbers have not moved in the expected direction.
  • peter_from_putney
    peter_from_putney Posts: 6,956
    taffys said:

    I still have no idea which side is going to win. One thing's for sure though - I wouldn't be wanting to pile my banker bonus on Remain at the Betfair odds today....

    Who says the vast sums being matched on Betfair are backed by real money? I'm wondering if there will be problems with widespread defaults.

    You can't bet on Betfair without putting your money down - there are no credit facilities available. Punters could however be borrowing from another source of course.
  • PlatoSaid
    PlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    Quite - there's over 500 comments under Warsi *scoop* 470 are saying LOL

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/sayeeda-warsi-duped-times/
  • geoffw
    geoffw Posts: 9,161
    I have a hunch that the betting movements this morning reflect a side ripple of hedging really big positions in currency and other financial markets.
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    edited June 2016
    2015 GE electorate = 46.4m

    2015 GE Votes Cast = 30.7m

    Postal votes issued = 7.6m

    Postal votes cast = 0.858 * 7.6m = 6.5m

    Postal votes cast = 6.5/30.7 = 21% of votes cast

    Postal votes cast = 6.5/46.4 = 14% of electorate

    No chance whatsoever that the proportion of postal votes has doubled between 2015 GE and EU Ref 2016.
  • Jebediah_Beane1
    Jebediah_Beane1 Posts: 25
    edited June 2016
    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    Found the source. Peter from Putney who is one of the more reliable chaps here posted this at 6.58 this morning:

    "Why do you say that? Because the elderly are the largest sector appling fo postal vote I imagine. I recall reading here on PB recently that approximately 27% of the electorate had applied for a postal vote. Since the act of voting involves rather less effort, presumably the percentage of actual postal voters will be somewhat higher than 27%."

    So you are quoting a source who "imagines" one fact and then "recalls reading" something else in order to unequivocally state Leave have won?????
  • taffys
    taffys Posts: 9,753
    ''Any death is a tragedy - but for soldiers its an occupational hazard - are you saying it should be for politicians too? ''

    I am not claiming anything. I am just expressing an opinion on where the sympathies of the public may lie.

    Voters are brutal in getting what they want, as I suspect parliament will discover on June 24.
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,312
    Jebediah_Beane1 said:

    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    Found the source. Peter from Putney who is one of the more reliable chaps here posted this at 6.58 this morning:

    "Why do you say that? Because the elderly are the largest sector appling fo postal vote I imagine. I recall reading here on PB recently that approximately 27% of the electorate had applied for a postal vote. Since the act of voting involves rather less effort, presumably the percentage of actual postal voters will be somewhat higher than 27%."

    So you are quoting a source who "recalls reading" something as a statement of fact?????
    There is no way that 27% of the electorate are registered for a postal vote
  • RochdalePioneers
    RochdalePioneers Posts: 30,611
    Colleague of mine jokingly suggested a strap line for Leave that's quite apt: "fuck 'em"
  • MarqueeMark
    MarqueeMark Posts: 55,458
    Casino_Royale said:

    taffys said:

    I still have no idea which side is going to win. One thing's for sure though - I wouldn't be wanting to pile my banker bonus on Remain at the Betfair odds today....

    Who says the vast sums being matched on Betfair are backed by real money? I'm wondering if there will be problems with widespread defaults.

    The killer is up in court again this afternoon and can be pretty much be relied upon to say something outrageous.

    Which will be heavily reported.
    The outcome of the footie will be first, second and third in tomorrow's news cycle....
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,312
    MarqueeMark said:

    Roger said:

    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. Song, both the campaigns have been rife with exaggeration, misleading statements and deceit. Picking one out for truthful loveliness is like selecting the most fragrant cowpat.

    I think there's a huge difference between some dodgy statistics and predicating your whole campaign on three WHOPPERS!! Turkey-EU Army-£350million a week.

    I said last week that the big question was whether LEAVE could disguise the cracks for the next ten days. I'm not sure they can
    I think LEAVE could. But when Farage is intent on taking a jack-hammer to those cracks...
    Well, as I have said before, neither Farage nor Boris actually want a leave win...
  • Sean_F
    Sean_F Posts: 39,132
    IanB2 said:

    Jebediah_Beane1 said:

    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    Found the source. Peter from Putney who is one of the more reliable chaps here posted this at 6.58 this morning:

    "Why do you say that? Because the elderly are the largest sector appling fo postal vote I imagine. I recall reading here on PB recently that approximately 27% of the electorate had applied for a postal vote. Since the act of voting involves rather less effort, presumably the percentage of actual postal voters will be somewhat higher than 27%."

    So you are quoting a source who "recalls reading" something as a statement of fact?????
    There is no way that 27% of the electorate are registered for a postal vote
    If 20% of votes were cast by post in 2015, and postal vote numbers are up on last year, it's possible that 27% of votes may be cast by post in this referendum, although that would seem on the high side.
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    geoffw said:

    I have a hunch that the betting movements this morning reflect a side ripple of hedging really big positions in currency and other financial markets.

    It could be a giant feedback loop of positive swings to Remain over the weekend, and all the sentiment re: the murder affecting the worldwide markets. But, I suspect there is some real data behind all this as well.

    We'll see.
  • kle4
    kle4 Posts: 99,113
    CD13 said:

    If Remain wins, I shall merely wait another 41 years to vote Leave again. I'll only be 107 - a mere stripling compared to Jack W.

    That's the spirit!
    RobC said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    RobC said:

    Remain price now 1/5 and still tightening. Let's not beat around the bush Cox aligned with the Farage poster has sunk Leave below the waterline. Could now be 55-45 Remain or better.

    If I had a pound for every time someone had said on here Leave/Remain is now a done deal..
    You'd be lying to yourself if you don't suspect something's definitely changed this time. It all hinges on the flaky 10% if you like. They want to go with the mood. the mood now has turned.
    I'm having this weird issue where only every other page of comments gets through my works internet filter, so viewing this comment on its own, without knowing what preceded it, I have no idea which way the mood is supposed to have turned.

    It went massively for Leave last week. Then it came back a bit to remain, at least to level pegging, but then with such a big shift from leave some swing back was probably inevitable. So if the mood has turned, is it turned back to Leave, more to Remain? I truly don't think it is that clear - I think Leave is leading, but even with histrionic reactions being the stock in trade here on PB, I'm not sold on the mood turning decisively one way or another. Leave was always stronger in my view, and ebbs and flows aside, will win as a result.
  • Big_G_NorthWales
    Big_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,238
    Sky interview of Warsi on now. Very outspoken and not a good sound bite for Farage and leave
  • Viceroy
    Viceroy Posts: 128
    chestnut said:

    Pulpstar said:

    chestnut said:

    Ashcroft's post Sindy Review was told there had been a 22% postal vote.

    Over half the votes were from 55+ voters . The inferred Remain lead was 62-38 by post.

    Err ?
    It was a post independence vote review - Ashcoft asked how many voted by post, and then he asked how they voted.

    No (Remain) to Independence was 24 points ahead on the postal vote going into Scottish referendum day. On the day it was 52-48 to No.

    Yes to Indepenence would have needed an eight point win on the day to claw back their postal deficit.
    Isn't that reassuring to Leave?

    If postals are showing for Leave and say Remain lead on the day by two points then...?
  • david_herdson
    david_herdson Posts: 18,357
    FrankBooth said:

    taffys said:

    The Cox Wail fest is the establishment talking to themselves, in my view.

    The death of Jo Cox is no more tragic than a single soldier dying in Afghanistan to joe public, I reckon.

    Whisper it, but maybe less.

    They may be involved but I think it's more about SJWs. The left wing version of the Diana fans.
    SJW?
  • SandyRentool
    SandyRentool Posts: 23,156
    Markets moving to Remain ahead of Jezza's Q&A tonight?

    Chance for Remain to seal the deal.

  • CarlottaVance
    CarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    Roger said:

    JohnO said:

    My 88 year old dad has put a Remain poster in his window...likely assisted by my sister!

    Every little helps....

    There's an advertising idea in there somewhere.....
  • Sean_F
    Sean_F Posts: 39,132
    Casino_Royale said:

    geoffw said:

    I have a hunch that the betting movements this morning reflect a side ripple of hedging really big positions in currency and other financial markets.

    It could be a giant feedback loop of positive swings to Remain over the weekend, and all the sentiment re: the murder affecting the worldwide markets. But, I suspect there is some real data behind all this as well.

    We'll see.
    There may be hard data, or there may just be rumours, or as you say, a feedback loop. But, bear in mind that betting markets are constantly overreacting to good news for Remain, and underreacting to good news for Leave.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806

    NEW THREAD NEW THREAD

  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    edited June 2016
    Campaigning clearly back on for the final few days, 'Stronger In' were handing out leaflets at Oxford Circus tube this morning




  • MarqueeMark
    MarqueeMark Posts: 55,458
    PlatoSaid said:

    Quite - there's over 500 comments under Warsi *scoop* 470 are saying LOL

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/sayeeda-warsi-duped-times/


    I didn't buy The Times today, as a one-man protest over its lead non-story. Doubtless it has meant people are being sacked as we speak....
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    HYUFD said:

    Campaigning clearly back on for the final few days, 'Stronger In' were handing out leaflets at Oxford Circus this morning




    Presumably to tourists?
  • david_herdson
    david_herdson Posts: 18,357
    taffys said:

    ''Any death is a tragedy - but for soldiers its an occupational hazard - are you saying it should be for politicians too? ''

    I am not claiming anything. I am just expressing an opinion on where the sympathies of the public may lie.

    Voters are brutal in getting what they want, as I suspect parliament will discover on June 24.

    Voters also have a sense of decency. They'll happily abuse politicians, or applaud others doing - and that's fair enough. They may have a wry smile about the less popular ones being egged - though the response to Prescott's punch is telling about how sympathies can be balanced. But once that escalates to more serious forms of violence, never mind murder, that's wholly different.

    On the other hand, while the public will happily pay tribute to a fallen soldier, sailor or airman, they also accept that the risk of being shot or stabbed comes with the job.
  • FF43
    FF43 Posts: 18,213
    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    Found the source. Peter from Putney who is one of the more reliable chaps here posted this at 6.58 this morning:

    "Why do you say that? Because the elderly are the largest sector appling fo postal vote I imagine. I recall reading here on PB recently that approximately 27% of the electorate had applied for a postal vote. Since the act of voting involves rather less effort, presumably the percentage of actual postal voters will be somewhat higher than 27%."

    Presumably the thinking is that postal votes were mainly returned at the point that Leave was doing best. It delivers a Leave victory even if sentiment turns against it later but before the main poll.

    Could do, but it would be a question of how many floating voters vote by post. If elderly committed Leave voters vote by post it won't make any difference. They'll vote Leave at any stage.

  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    KentRising said:

    HYUFD said:

    Campaigning clearly back on for the final few days, 'Stronger In' were handing out leaflets at Oxford Circus this morning




    Presumably to tourists?
    Mainly commuters
  • CarlottaVance
    CarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    Full moon tonight......just sayin......
  • PlatoSaid
    PlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    taffys said:

    ''Any death is a tragedy - but for soldiers its an occupational hazard - are you saying it should be for politicians too? ''

    I am not claiming anything. I am just expressing an opinion on where the sympathies of the public may lie.

    Voters are brutal in getting what they want, as I suspect parliament will discover on June 24.

    I read the comments under the related Katie Hopkins article - vast majority are comparing it to moral blackmail/poor taste to use her death/Dianafication/aren't changing their mind/glad she'd the cojones to say it.
  • david_herdson
    david_herdson Posts: 18,357
    taffys said:

    I still have no idea which side is going to win. One thing's for sure though - I wouldn't be wanting to pile my banker bonus on Remain at the Betfair odds today....

    Who says the vast sums being matched on Betfair are backed by real money? I'm wondering if there will be problems with widespread defaults.

    Betfair won't let you bet unless you have real money in your account.
  • david_herdson
    david_herdson Posts: 18,357
    CarlottaVance said:

    Full moon tonight......just sayin......

    Solstice today as well. Strange happenings afoot.
  • DecrepitJohnL
    DecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    CarlottaVance said:

    taffys said:

    The Cox Wail fest is the establishment talking to themselves, in my view.

    The death of Jo Cox is no more tragic than a single soldier dying in Afghanistan to joe public, I reckon.

    Whisper it, but maybe less.

    Any death is a tragedy - but for soldiers its an occupational hazard - are you saying it should be for politicians too?
    No, but politicians should remember they are not the only ones vulnerable. As this is a betting site, here is a story from Saturday's Sun, for example.
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1302481/bookies-horror-as-fiend-leaves-young-female-cashier-for-dead-after-brutal-sexual-mutilation/
  • IanB2
    IanB2 Posts: 52,312
    Sean_F said:

    IanB2 said:

    Jebediah_Beane1 said:

    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    Found the source. Peter from Putney who is one of the more reliable chaps here posted this at 6.58 this morning:

    "Why do you say that? Because the elderly are the largest sector appling fo postal vote I imagine. I recall reading here on PB recently that approximately 27% of the electorate had applied for a postal vote. Since the act of voting involves rather less effort, presumably the percentage of actual postal voters will be somewhat higher than 27%."

    So you are quoting a source who "recalls reading" something as a statement of fact?????
    There is no way that 27% of the electorate are registered for a postal vote
    If 20% of votes were cast by post in 2015, and postal vote numbers are up on last year, it's possible that 27% of votes may be cast by post in this referendum, although that would seem on the high side.
    My best guess would be:

    % of electorate registers for a postal vote = 17% (hence 83% able to vote in person)
    Turnout of postal voters @ 80% = 14% of the electorate
    Turnout of polling station voters @ 60% = 50% of the electorate
    Hence total turnout = 64%
    Of which 21% will be returned postal votes.
    Postal votes typically are either returned straight away, or at the last minute (an increasing number are handed in to polling stations on the day).
    If say 75% of those that will be returned already have been, then my best guess is that something like 15% of the votes have already been cast.

    Although the common assumption is that the postal vote is heavily weighted towards leave, in my experience postal voters tend to be disproportionately either a) elderly, b) ethnic minority, c) students, of whom only the first lean towards leave.

    However the question isn't actually about the balance of the postal vote, but about what proportion of the postal voters might have changed their minds had they not cast their vote until the end of the campaign. I have no idea but my instinct is that the floating vote in this referendum may well be significantly higher amongst the non-postal voters.
  • chestnut
    chestnut Posts: 7,341
    MikeL said:

    2015 GE electorate = 46.4m

    2015 GE Votes Cast = 30.7m

    Postal votes issued = 7.6m

    Postal votes cast = 0.858 * 7.6m = 6.5m

    Postal votes cast = 6.5/30.7 = 21% of votes cast

    Postal votes cast = 6.5/46.4 = 14% of electorate

    No chance whatsoever that the proportion of postal votes has doubled between 2015 GE and EU Ref 2016.

    The overall size of the electorate isn't especially pertinent; it's the proportion of those who actually vote that is.

    Besides, the electorate itself was down nearly three million in December, and there are also two or three million ineligible EU citizens in the national electorate.

    Adjusting for lower registration and barring by citizenship, it is conceivable that close to a quarter of the vote is already in.

    Postal Vote by Region last May:

    North East 35%
    Yorkshire and Humber 24%
    North West 23%
    Wales 22%
    Scotland 21%
    East Mids 21%
    South West 21%
    South East 20%
    East England 19%
    London 18%
    West Mids 17%
    Northern Ireland 2%

  • Alistair
    Alistair Posts: 23,670
    Morris_Dancer said:

    How did the elderly vote in the Scottish referendum?

    Massively No. 65/35 No amongst 70+
    56/44 Amongst 60-69
  • john_zims
    john_zims Posts: 3,399
    @tyson


    'Out vote will hurt the economy- judging by todays markets bounce, and the IMF predictions, and by major business leaders saying that they could no longer invest in the UK post Brexit, that seems entirely plausible.'


    Out has told us exactly the same thing we were told if we didn't join the ERM or Euro.

    As we know from history that was complete bollocks,hence few people take the the so called 'experts / vested interests' seriously..
  • tyson
    tyson Posts: 6,122
    PlatoSaid said:

    taffys said:

    ''Any death is a tragedy - but for soldiers its an occupational hazard - are you saying it should be for politicians too? ''

    I am not claiming anything. I am just expressing an opinion on where the sympathies of the public may lie.

    Voters are brutal in getting what they want, as I suspect parliament will discover on June 24.

    I read the comments under the related Katie Hopkins article - vast majority are comparing it to moral blackmail/poor taste to use her death/Dianafication/aren't changing their mind/glad she'd the cojones to say it.
    The people who comment on Daily Mail are even greater head bangers, vitriolic and right wing than the majority of the pbCOM community. I don't think they particularly reflect public opinion.
  • malcolmg
    malcolmg Posts: 44,523
    GIN1138 said:

    DanSmith said:

    Beginning to think the Farage/UKIP poster was the turning point. What was he thinking? Leave were winning, no need to scare the horses like that.

    I've said it before. Farage is in it for Farage.

    A narrow REMAIN win is ideal for him and keeps him in the game. UKIP will thrive over the next few years as all Cameron's promise's turn to ashes and he also gets to keep his place on the EU gravy train.

    REMAIN is a win, win for him.
    Afternoon GIN, wise words.
  • David_Evershed
    David_Evershed Posts: 6,506
    One of the findings from the latest and final Ashcroft focus groups.

    The Totnes Question – how will you feel if you wake up next Friday and the country has voted for Brexit – turned out to be a revealing one for our wavering voters. More often than not, it was a sobering thought: “Nervous”, “anxious”, “apprehensive”, even “alone”; “I just wonder what is going to happen next. If that does happen there will be five or six years of change.”

    But some said their apprehension would be tinged with excitement, and even surprised themselves with their answer to the opposite question – how they would feel on hearing Remain had won? “I’ve just realised I would be disappointed. And before that I had no idea what I was going to do;” “I’d be a bit more anxious. Part of me thinks we’d be better outside. I find a new challenge quite exciting. If we hadn’t got that, I’d think, ‘have we made a mistake?’ ”

    See

    http://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2016/06/lord-ashcroft-my-final-eu-referendum-focus-groups-i-cant-make-my-mind-up-its-a-lot-of-responsibility-and-i-really-want-to-get-it-right.html
  • David_Evershed
    David_Evershed Posts: 6,506
    Postal votes are in the bag. :)
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