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Though as things stand I think it's very small and marginal impacts are as follows. #1 Those like myself who see the killing on the same day as the Farage poster as a synchronicity. That the referendum rather than helping us integrate our national Shadow has simply inflamed it. #2 Centre Right Remainders who have quite bought Cameron's economic chaos argument in sufficient numbers. They'll now fear political chaos. I think these are very marginal in Electoral terms, < 1% but they'll be there.0
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There are more ABs than C2sJobabob said:
It won't cost Leave any votes. Remain's only chance is if it converts enough DKs and pushes even more of its supporters to the ballot box in its London heartlands, and from its AB vote elsewhere. But Remain are trying to squeeze every drip from a limited demographic, sadly.GIN1138 said:
I tend to agree... Now, if a picture ever emerges of him anywhere near Farage things could turn a bit...RoyalBlue said:
Why? Who is going to change their vote over this? The vast majority of the public will see him as a madman; the only people who equate Leave and the far right are fervent Remainers.SeanT said:
I think it's hm. And I think this will tilt a very finely balanced referendum to REMAINBenedictWhite said:
Might be him, might not be him. (Actually it doesn't look a great deal like him)Tykejohnno said:
Honestiy, as a thriller writer, you couldn't get away with this in fiction0 -
New Order.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Depeche Mode are my favourite band - should be releasing another album early next year.TheScreamingEagles said:
I love all 80s music, the good music and the shit music.tyson said:@TSE
I love the way you try and search for an angle on your leads TSE. This could be like the AV referendum, and you draw some interesting comparisons. But, there is one slight flaw in your analysis. No one put any money on AV, but yet there are the majority of punters still backing remain.
BTW TSE- I ended on your twitter page or instagram page quite by chance. I am not a stalker..honest. But once reaching your page, quite by chance, I explored it a little and was intrigued by your love of 80's music. Do you like the great 80's music...the Smiths, Cure, Joy Division, New Order....or the shit 80's ,music....basically everything else?
I love everything from New Order to The London Boys.
Then the rest.
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Google reverse image search for the win
https://www.britainfirst.org/northern-brigade-activists-visit-26-mosques-across-dewsbury-and-bradford/0 -
Think we're on the same wavelength glw, but I don't think it's the same guy on the left.BenedictWhite said:
What is interesting? (Apart from the fact that doesn't look like Mair to me)glw said:
I have to tread carefully because I'm not 100% certain but the most interesting thing about that picture is not the man identified as Mair.Tykejohnno said:
Although the hair looks fairly similar.
@Benedict witness.0 -
It's not Mair, although the two men do look a bit similar.KentRising said:
Maybe it's the t-shirt. Looks like an odd choice of t-shirt for a blackshirt warrior....BenedictWhite said:
What is interesting? (Apart from the fact that doesn't look like Mair to me)glw said:
I have to tread carefully because I'm not 100% certain but the most interesting thing about that picture is not the man identified as Mair.Tykejohnno said:
I have seen other pictures of the guy wearing the patterned woollen or fleece top. Give me a moment and I will try to get them.0 -
Having stared at this for a few minutes I suspect this is a photoshop jobtyson said:
I'm not going to speculate. My comrade from many years past, Benedict White, hits the right note by saying it might be him, and it might not be him. Difficult to say.GIN1138 said:
I don't...tyson said:
I get your driftglw said:
I have to tread carefully because I'm not 100% certain but the most interesting thing about that picture is not the man identified as Mair.Tykejohnno said:
1) The guy is wearing a t-shirt with pink on it which is a colour you don't generally associate with the far right
2) The other 3 guys are holding the banner and staring straight ahead while the 3rd man is not holding the banner and looking in a different direction
3) if you look at the bottom of the banner the man on the right's legs are vertically aligned with his shoulders. In the case of the 3rd man what could be a leg is aligned with his head, which suggests he would have to be leaning at an angle rather than standing straight.
4) There seems to be some suspicious pixelation around the 2nd guy's left arm.
5) The 3rd man seems to be out of proportion (too large) when compared with the 4th man.
I call fake.
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BenedictWhite said:
As in Mair. It may or may not be him...tyson said:
I'm not going to speculate. My comrade from many years past, Benedict White, hits the right note by saying it might be him, and it might not be him. Difficult to say.GIN1138 said:
I don't...tyson said:
I get your driftglw said:
I have to tread carefully because I'm not 100% certain but the most interesting thing about that picture is not the man identified as Mair.Tykejohnno said:
I have no idea who anyone else is supposed to be. I can confirm I am not in that photo nor anyone else I know.
I don't mean you, the elusive Benedict White. It looks like someone else.
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I think it looks fake as well but didn't want to say that in case it isn't and I look an idiot.GarethoftheVale2 said:
Having stared at this for a few minutes I suspect this is a photoshop jobtyson said:
I'm not going to speculate. My comrade from many years past, Benedict White, hits the right note by saying it might be him, and it might not be him. Difficult to say.GIN1138 said:
I don't...tyson said:
I get your driftglw said:
I have to tread carefully because I'm not 100% certain but the most interesting thing about that picture is not the man identified as Mair.Tykejohnno said:
1) The guy is wearing a t-shirt with pink on it which is a colour you don't generally associate with the far right
2) The other 3 guys are holding the banner and staring straight ahead while the 3rd man is not holding the banner and looking in a different direction
3) if you look at the bottom of the banner the man on the right's legs are vertically aligned with his shoulders. In the case of the 3rd man what could be a leg is aligned with his head, which suggests he would have to be leaning at an angle rather than standing straight.
4) There seems to be some suspicious pixelation around the 2nd guy's left arm.
5) The 3rd man seems to be out of proportion (too large) when compared with the 4th man.
I call fake.
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Emmanuelle 3 to 6 tooHYUFD said:
Raiders of the Lost Arc in 1981 tooSunil_Prasannan said:
The best Star Wars film, The Empire Strikes Back was released in 1980.tyson said:
I think the 80's was overall really quite naff on all fronts, barring Manchester, where I was growing up. Cinema wise, apart from Raging Bull- which was filmed in 1979, but released in 1980, it was utter tosh. I think we had to wait until Pulp Fiction (1994) until cinema found its feet again.TheScreamingEagles said:
I love all 80s music, the good music and the shit music.tyson said:@TSE
I love the way you try and search for an angle on your leads TSE. This could be like the AV referendum, and you draw some interesting comparisons. But, there is one slight flaw in your analysis. No one put any money on AV, but yet there are the majority of punters still backing remain.
BTW TSE- I ended on your twitter page or instagram page quite by chance. I am not a stalker..honest. But once reaching your page, quite by chance, I explored it a little and was intrigued by your love of 80's music. Do you like the great 80's music...the Smiths, Cure, Joy Division, New Order....or the shit 80's ,music....basically everything else?
I love everything from New Order to The London Boys.
So a friend tells me0 -
VM for you.nunu said:
has anyone here has a serious mental illness and come through it? For me it feels like I'm stuck with it.RodCrosby said:Cox suspect sought mental health treatment the night before the killing...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/17/jo-cox-murder-thomas-mair-asked-for-mental-health-treatment-day/0 -
Quite.Scott_P said:
@DPJHodges: @iainmartin1 @JuliaHB1 You see, here's the problem Iain. I haven't mentioned Leave. But for some reason, you have. Why is that.RoyalBlue said:Why? Who is going to change their vote over this? The vast majority of the public will see him as a madman; the only people who equate Leave and the far right are fervent Remainers.
As to Mair's mental health crisis - it could well be genuine, or alternatively preparation for a defence he knew he could subsequently rely upon.
Interesting that Murdoch is hedging his bets with Times REMAIN, Sun LEAVE - of course that also probably reflects the newspaper's respective readers views....
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Amen-- but can we start with Joy Division and then New Order and then the others.....Scrapheap_as_was said:
New Order.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Depeche Mode are my favourite band - should be releasing another album early next year.TheScreamingEagles said:
I love all 80s music, the good music and the shit music.tyson said:@TSE
I love the way you try and search for an angle on your leads TSE. This could be like the AV referendum, and you draw some interesting comparisons. But, there is one slight flaw in your analysis. No one put any money on AV, but yet there are the majority of punters still backing remain.
BTW TSE- I ended on your twitter page or instagram page quite by chance. I am not a stalker..honest. But once reaching your page, quite by chance, I explored it a little and was intrigued by your love of 80's music. Do you like the great 80's music...the Smiths, Cure, Joy Division, New Order....or the shit 80's ,music....basically everything else?
I love everything from New Order to The London Boys.
Then the rest.
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Except it appears on the official Britain First website.GIN1138 said:
I think it looks fake as well but didn't want to say that in case it isn't and I look an idiot.GarethoftheVale2 said:
Having stared at this for a few minutes I suspect this is a photoshop jobtyson said:
I'm not going to speculate. My comrade from many years past, Benedict White, hits the right note by saying it might be him, and it might not be him. Difficult to say.GIN1138 said:
I don't...tyson said:
I get your driftglw said:
I have to tread carefully because I'm not 100% certain but the most interesting thing about that picture is not the man identified as Mair.Tykejohnno said:
1) The guy is wearing a t-shirt with pink on it which is a colour you don't generally associate with the far right
2) The other 3 guys are holding the banner and staring straight ahead while the 3rd man is not holding the banner and looking in a different direction
3) if you look at the bottom of the banner the man on the right's legs are vertically aligned with his shoulders. In the case of the 3rd man what could be a leg is aligned with his head, which suggests he would have to be leaning at an angle rather than standing straight.
4) There seems to be some suspicious pixelation around the 2nd guy's left arm.
5) The 3rd man seems to be out of proportion (too large) when compared with the 4th man.
I call fake.
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Campaigning suspendid until atleast Saturday now. How can anyone say this is a fair election ?
If Dave thinks the issue will be settled within the party now with a slim REMAIN win he's got another thing coming.0 -
Strange how he crops up in just one of the photos.Freggles said:Google reverse image search for the win
https://www.britainfirst.org/northern-brigade-activists-visit-26-mosques-across-dewsbury-and-bradford/0 -
Having a mental illness is not the same as being insane. You are perfectly capable of holding cogent political views or violent ones. It's just that you are also ill.0
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I am sure your friend very much appreciated the visuals!bigjohnowls said:
Emmanuelle 3 to 6 tooHYUFD said:
Raiders of the Lost Arc in 1981 tooSunil_Prasannan said:
The best Star Wars film, The Empire Strikes Back was released in 1980.tyson said:
I think the 80's was overall really quite naff on all fronts, barring Manchester, where I was growing up. Cinema wise, apart from Raging Bull- which was filmed in 1979, but released in 1980, it was utter tosh. I think we had to wait until Pulp Fiction (1994) until cinema found its feet again.TheScreamingEagles said:
I love all 80s music, the good music and the shit music.tyson said:@TSE
I love the way you try and search for an angle on your leads TSE. This could be like the AV referendum, and you draw some interesting comparisons. But, there is one slight flaw in your analysis. No one put any money on AV, but yet there are the majority of punters still backing remain.
BTW TSE- I ended on your twitter page or instagram page quite by chance. I am not a stalker..honest. But once reaching your page, quite by chance, I explored it a little and was intrigued by your love of 80's music. Do you like the great 80's music...the Smiths, Cure, Joy Division, New Order....or the shit 80's ,music....basically everything else?
I love everything from New Order to The London Boys.
So a friend tells me0 -
You have got to be kidding me.KentRising said:
Strange how he crops up in just one of the photos.Freggles said:Google reverse image search for the win
https://www.britainfirst.org/northern-brigade-activists-visit-26-mosques-across-dewsbury-and-bradford/0 -
Clutching at straws much?0
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In some ways the thing I now really fear is a leave win and then a deal that doesn't end free movement. It would be seen as a betrayal that makes Clegg and tuition fees a minor squabble in comparison.0
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The MSM don't seem to be biting, for the moment, and the pic's been on twitter for over 4 hours...GIN1138 said:
I think it looks fake as well but didn't want to say that in case it isn't and I look an idiot.GarethoftheVale2 said:
Having stared at this for a few minutes I suspect this is a photoshop jobtyson said:
I'm not going to speculate. My comrade from many years past, Benedict White, hits the right note by saying it might be him, and it might not be him. Difficult to say.GIN1138 said:
I don't...tyson said:
I get your driftglw said:
I have to tread carefully because I'm not 100% certain but the most interesting thing about that picture is not the man identified as Mair.Tykejohnno said:
1) The guy is wearing a t-shirt with pink on it which is a colour you don't generally associate with the far right
2) The other 3 guys are holding the banner and staring straight ahead while the 3rd man is not holding the banner and looking in a different direction
3) if you look at the bottom of the banner the man on the right's legs are vertically aligned with his shoulders. In the case of the 3rd man what could be a leg is aligned with his head, which suggests he would have to be leaning at an angle rather than standing straight.
4) There seems to be some suspicious pixelation around the 2nd guy's left arm.
5) The 3rd man seems to be out of proportion (too large) when compared with the 4th man.
I call fake.0 -
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The national campaign activities are suspended, but that doesn't mean nothing is happening at a local level.nunu said:Campaigning suspendid until atleast Saturday now. How can anyone say this is a fair election ?
If Dave thinks the issue will be settled within the party now with a slim REMAIN win he's got another thing coming.
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How about:tyson said:
But filmed in 1979....Next.....Sunil_Prasannan said:
The best Star Wars film, The Empire Strikes Back was released in 1980.tyson said:
I think the 80's was overall really quite naff on all fronts, barring Manchester, where I was growing up. Cinema wise, apart from Raging Bull- which was filmed in 1979, but released in 1980, it was utter tosh. I think we had to wait until Pulp Fiction (1994) until cinema found its feet again.TheScreamingEagles said:
I love all 80s music, the good music and the shit music.tyson said:@TSE
I love the way you try and search for an angle on your leads TSE. This could be like the AV referendum, and you draw some interesting comparisons. But, there is one slight flaw in your analysis. No one put any money on AV, but yet there are the majority of punters still backing remain.
BTW TSE- I ended on your twitter page or instagram page quite by chance. I am not a stalker..honest. But once reaching your page, quite by chance, I explored it a little and was intrigued by your love of 80's music. Do you like the great 80's music...the Smiths, Cure, Joy Division, New Order....or the shit 80's ,music....basically everything else?
I love everything from New Order to The London Boys.
Scarface
The Breakfast Club
Ghostbusters
Full Metal Jacket
Jean de Florette
Or my particular favourite:
Babette's Feast0 -
Oh well... Shows what I know (should have kept quiet)Freggles said:
Except it appears on the official Britain First website.GIN1138 said:
I think it looks fake as well but didn't want to say that in case it isn't and I look an idiot.GarethoftheVale2 said:
Having stared at this for a few minutes I suspect this is a photoshop jobtyson said:
I'm not going to speculate. My comrade from many years past, Benedict White, hits the right note by saying it might be him, and it might not be him. Difficult to say.GIN1138 said:
I don't...tyson said:
I get your driftglw said:
I have to tread carefully because I'm not 100% certain but the most interesting thing about that picture is not the man identified as Mair.Tykejohnno said:
1) The guy is wearing a t-shirt with pink on it which is a colour you don't generally associate with the far right
2) The other 3 guys are holding the banner and staring straight ahead while the 3rd man is not holding the banner and looking in a different direction
3) if you look at the bottom of the banner the man on the right's legs are vertically aligned with his shoulders. In the case of the 3rd man what could be a leg is aligned with his head, which suggests he would have to be leaning at an angle rather than standing straight.
4) There seems to be some suspicious pixelation around the 2nd guy's left arm.
5) The 3rd man seems to be out of proportion (too large) when compared with the 4th man.
I call fake.
Britain First has a website? I wouldn't dirty myself by even putting their name into Google never-mind visiting their grubby little place on the internet...0 -
What does campaigning being suspended have to do with whether it has been fair or not? Both sides have suspended their campaigns, you cannot get more fair than that. And it has been a few days out of weeks and weeks of official campaigning and years of unofficial campaigning, it isn't like the process has become invalidated by a delay.nunu said:Campaigning suspendid until atleast Saturday now. How can anyone say this is a fair election ?
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williamglenn said:
She's also best ignored by fanatical supporters of both sides, as well as people who don't care either way.Jobabob said:
Mensch is best ignored by sensible supporters of both sides.KentRising said:
I think she is saying that Cameron and others' intimations that the murder was politically motivated, and motivated by hate of foreigners etc - and thus, subliminally, Mensch thinks, linked, however tenously, to the Leave campaign - is wrong, and thus any subliminal laying of blame at Leave's door is wrong, because it turns out, according to the Mail, that it was in fact the actions of a man suffering from mental illness and not in possession of a sound mind.kle4 said:
I don't even understand what she is on about - was she responding to a different quote which might justify such a reaction?RealBritain said:
A ridiculous request from Louise Mensch.Tykejohnno said:
You know what, I don't care.
The EU referendum was already a poisonous debate, I'm not going to start thinking about most likely cretinous conspiracy theories and absurd over politicising.
How I long for the days when politics was mere dull pablum.
Or something.
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I don't understand what Campbell is getting at?Tykejohnno said:This tweet nearly made me sick.
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The Guardian accepts 257 voluntary redundancies https://t.co/Facy7yC7nP https://t.co/fhwjMCuXKj0
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No, I'm not disputing the authenticity, I'm saying it's strange how everyone else seems to appear in more than one photo at more than one location, but he appears in just one in one location. What with his differing attir too, it's almost like he stumbled into these chaps doing their thing, agreed with them, helped hold up their banner, before going on his way.Freggles said:
You have got to be kidding me.KentRising said:
Strange how he crops up in just one of the photos.Freggles said:Google reverse image search for the win
https://www.britainfirst.org/northern-brigade-activists-visit-26-mosques-across-dewsbury-and-bradford/
I need sleep.0 -
I'd forgotten what a good series Big Train was.
Ming the Merciless watching Teletubbies.0 -
Interesting. I'll admit I didn't know that. Turnout key. And ABs are reliable voters, as a rule.HYUFD said:
There are more ABs than C2sJobabob said:
It won't cost Leave any votes. Remain's only chance is if it converts enough DKs and pushes even more of its supporters to the ballot box in its London heartlands, and from its AB vote elsewhere. But Remain are trying to squeeze every drip from a limited demographic, sadly.GIN1138 said:
I tend to agree... Now, if a picture ever emerges of him anywhere near Farage things could turn a bit...RoyalBlue said:
Why? Who is going to change their vote over this? The vast majority of the public will see him as a madman; the only people who equate Leave and the far right are fervent Remainers.SeanT said:
I think it's hm. And I think this will tilt a very finely balanced referendum to REMAINBenedictWhite said:
Might be him, might not be him. (Actually it doesn't look a great deal like him)Tykejohnno said:
Honestiy, as a thriller writer, you couldn't get away with this in fiction0 -
Well, Osborne has done that to the country...williamglenn said:
Could be just a pre-emptive move to reassure shareholders. As Brexit is a 50-50 shot, it would be a brave listed company to come out and say they'd be stuffed by it.BenedictWhite said:Well, Legal and General are not bothered about #Brexit.
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Louise MenschBenedictWhite said:
As in Mair. It may or may not be him...tyson said:
I'm not going to speculate. My comrade from many years past, Benedict White, hits the right note by saying it might be him, and it might not be him. Difficult to say.GIN1138 said:
I don't...tyson said:
I get your driftglw said:
I have to tread carefully because I'm not 100% certain but the most interesting thing about that picture is not the man identified as Mair.Tykejohnno said:
I have no idea who anyone else is supposed to be. I can confirm I am not in that photo nor anyone else I know.
.@CharlesBAnthony that's not Tommy Mair. It's this guy. T. Mair is 52. you're welcome. https://t.co/ieKdmVwlbY0 -
Even if it is him, easy to photoshop an image of him into that photo. He is looking in a completely different direction to everyone else. And his hand is not on the banner, unlike the others.BenedictWhite said:
Might be him, might not be him. (Actually it doesn't look a great deal like him)Tykejohnno said:0 -
FWIW, the legs look completely off-kilter for me & it's also a bit odd that he only appears in one photo (in radically different clothing). Then again it is on the BF website. Perhaps he may have been a member but wasn't due to take part, but when he walked past he decided to pose for a photo.Freggles said:
Except it appears on the official Britain First website.GIN1138 said:
I think it looks fake as well but didn't want to say that in case it isn't and I look an idiot.GarethoftheVale2 said:
Having stared at this for a few minutes I suspect this is a photoshop jobtyson said:
I'm not going to speculate. My comrade from many years past, Benedict White, hits the right note by saying it might be him, and it might not be him. Difficult to say.GIN1138 said:
I don't...tyson said:
I get your driftglw said:
I have to tread carefully because I'm not 100% certain but the most interesting thing about that picture is not the man identified as Mair.Tykejohnno said:
1) The guy is wearing a t-shirt with pink on it which is a colour you don't generally associate with the far right
2) The other 3 guys are holding the banner and staring straight ahead while the 3rd man is not holding the banner and looking in a different direction
3) if you look at the bottom of the banner the man on the right's legs are vertically aligned with his shoulders. In the case of the 3rd man what could be a leg is aligned with his head, which suggests he would have to be leaning at an angle rather than standing straight.
4) There seems to be some suspicious pixelation around the 2nd guy's left arm.
5) The 3rd man seems to be out of proportion (too large) when compared with the 4th man.
I call fake.0 -
It would imply he was present at one site, not part of the whole event.KentRising said:
Strange how he crops up in just one of the photos.Freggles said:Google reverse image search for the win
https://www.britainfirst.org/northern-brigade-activists-visit-26-mosques-across-dewsbury-and-bradford/0 -
It was released in 1980. That's when we first got to see it. Next...tyson said:
But filmed in 1979....Next.....Sunil_Prasannan said:
The best Star Wars film, The Empire Strikes Back was released in 1980.tyson said:
I think the 80's was overall really quite naff on all fronts, barring Manchester, where I was growing up. Cinema wise, apart from Raging Bull- which was filmed in 1979, but released in 1980, it was utter tosh. I think we had to wait until Pulp Fiction (1994) until cinema found its feet again.TheScreamingEagles said:
I love all 80s music, the good music and the shit music.tyson said:@TSE
I love the way you try and search for an angle on your leads TSE. This could be like the AV referendum, and you draw some interesting comparisons. But, there is one slight flaw in your analysis. No one put any money on AV, but yet there are the majority of punters still backing remain.
BTW TSE- I ended on your twitter page or instagram page quite by chance. I am not a stalker..honest. But once reaching your page, quite by chance, I explored it a little and was intrigued by your love of 80's music. Do you like the great 80's music...the Smiths, Cure, Joy Division, New Order....or the shit 80's ,music....basically everything else?
I love everything from New Order to The London Boys.
Other 80s classics, film-wise include:
The Breakfast Club
Die Hard
Aliens
Beverley Hills Cop
Escape from New York
Terminator
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Superman II
Blade Runner
E.T.
Back to the Future
Predator
Footloose
Dirty Dancing
Tootsie
Ghostbusters
Um... to name a few 0 -
To return to exactly what we were discussing before the terrible event, if this were to happen it would be entirely the fault of the leave campaign.FrankBooth said:In some ways the thing I now really fear is a leave win and then a deal that doesn't end free movement. It would be seen as a betrayal that makes Clegg and tuition fees a minor squabble in comparison.
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SouthamObserver said:
Having a mental illness is not the same as being insane. You are perfectly capable of holding cogent political views or violent ones. It's just that you are also ill.
I think you are absolutely right...and it was really brave of Nunu earlier to talk of his or her mental illness.
I think we should re-label people as criminally insane as clearly this person was yesterday, and those others who are bravely, struggling on, as mentally ill, who are suffering from a debilitating illness that is impacting on their lives. We should not conflate the criminally insane with mental illness....
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Does that mean we count Goodfellas as an 80's film?tyson said:
But filmed in 1979....Next.....Sunil_Prasannan said:
The best Star Wars film, The Empire Strikes Back was released in 1980.tyson said:
I think the 80's was overall really quite naff on all fronts, barring Manchester, where I was growing up. Cinema wise, apart from Raging Bull- which was filmed in 1979, but released in 1980, it was utter tosh. I think we had to wait until Pulp Fiction (1994) until cinema found its feet again.TheScreamingEagles said:
I love all 80s music, the good music and the shit music.tyson said:@TSE
I love the way you try and search for an angle on your leads TSE. This could be like the AV referendum, and you draw some interesting comparisons. But, there is one slight flaw in your analysis. No one put any money on AV, but yet there are the majority of punters still backing remain.
BTW TSE- I ended on your twitter page or instagram page quite by chance. I am not a stalker..honest. But once reaching your page, quite by chance, I explored it a little and was intrigued by your love of 80's music. Do you like the great 80's music...the Smiths, Cure, Joy Division, New Order....or the shit 80's ,music....basically everything else?
I love everything from New Order to The London Boys.0 -
I really did not want to comment on the photo earlier. However, the t-shirt seemed like an unusual choice for a 52 year old man.PlatoSaid said:
Louise MenschBenedictWhite said:
As in Mair. It may or may not be him...tyson said:
I'm not going to speculate. My comrade from many years past, Benedict White, hits the right note by saying it might be him, and it might not be him. Difficult to say.GIN1138 said:
I don't...tyson said:
I get your driftglw said:
I have to tread carefully because I'm not 100% certain but the most interesting thing about that picture is not the man identified as Mair.Tykejohnno said:
I have no idea who anyone else is supposed to be. I can confirm I am not in that photo nor anyone else I know.
.@CharlesBAnthony that's not Tommy Mair. It's this guy. T. Mair is 52. you're welcome. https://t.co/ieKdmVwlbY0 -
Indeed, C1s are the most numerous, then DEs, then ABs, then C2sJobabob said:
Interesting. I'll admit I didn't know that. Turnout key. And ABs are reliable voters, as a rule.HYUFD said:
There are more ABs than C2sJobabob said:
It won't cost Leave any votes. Remain's only chance is if it converts enough DKs and pushes even more of its supporters to the ballot box in its London heartlands, and from its AB vote elsewhere. But Remain are trying to squeeze every drip from a limited demographic, sadly.GIN1138 said:
I tend to agree... Now, if a picture ever emerges of him anywhere near Farage things could turn a bit...RoyalBlue said:
Why? Who is going to change their vote over this? The vast majority of the public will see him as a madman; the only people who equate Leave and the far right are fervent Remainers.SeanT said:
I think it's hm. And I think this will tilt a very finely balanced referendum to REMAINBenedictWhite said:
Might be him, might not be him. (Actually it doesn't look a great deal like him)Tykejohnno said:
Honestiy, as a thriller writer, you couldn't get away with this in fiction0 -
Local Hero!!!Sunil_Prasannan said:
It was released in 1980. That's when we first got to see it. Next...tyson said:
But filmed in 1979....Next.....Sunil_Prasannan said:
The best Star Wars film, The Empire Strikes Back was released in 1980.tyson said:
I think the 80's was overall really quite naff on all fronts, barring Manchester, where I was growing up. Cinema wise, apart from Raging Bull- which was filmed in 1979, but released in 1980, it was utter tosh. I think we had to wait until Pulp Fiction (1994) until cinema found its feet again.TheScreamingEagles said:
I love all 80s music, the good music and the shit music.tyson said:@TSE
I love the way you try and search for an angle on your leads TSE. This could be like the AV referendum, and you draw some interesting comparisons. But, there is one slight flaw in your analysis. No one put any money on AV, but yet there are the majority of punters still backing remain.
BTW TSE- I ended on your twitter page or instagram page quite by chance. I am not a stalker..honest. But once reaching your page, quite by chance, I explored it a little and was intrigued by your love of 80's music. Do you like the great 80's music...the Smiths, Cure, Joy Division, New Order....or the shit 80's ,music....basically everything else?
I love everything from New Order to The London Boys.
Other 80s classics, film-wise include:
The Breakfast Club
Die Hard
Aliens
Beverley Hills Cop
Escape from New York
Terminator
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Superman II
Blade Runner
E.T.
Back to the Future
Predator
Footloose
Dirty Dancing
Tootsie
Ghostbusters
Um... to name a few0 -
Curiously the chap I presume is supposed to be Mair (The chap in the hat) is only in one photo and doesn't looked engaged.Freggles said:Google reverse image search for the win
https://www.britainfirst.org/northern-brigade-activists-visit-26-mosques-across-dewsbury-and-bradford/0 -
https://www.britainfirst.org NSFW but that's the website. The front page is dominated with referendum stories in general and pieces on the coverage of the Jo Cox murder in particular.0
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There are some very serious issues of natural justice here with conflicting witness statements being bandied around on the media;allegations of impartial witnesses;
hearsay and therefore inadmissible evidence being published in the press;prejudicial
information on police searches apparently being leaked and published;politicians making allegations about motive publically potentially
photoshopped or out of context photos being published on the internet.The Police need to get a grip quickly as this is turning into a legal minefield.I think the chance of a fair trial now
is nil.
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Not sure who you mean and who it is supposed to be,Tony said:
Think we're on the same wavelength glw, but I don't think it's the same guy on the left.BenedictWhite said:
What is interesting? (Apart from the fact that doesn't look like Mair to me)glw said:
I have to tread carefully because I'm not 100% certain but the most interesting thing about that picture is not the man identified as Mair.Tykejohnno said:
Although the hair looks fairly similar.
@Benedict witness.0 -
Contrary to popular belief, Osborne has a political duty to the citizens of the country, not a fiduciary duty to the people who own the country, so his obligations are quite different to those of a CEO.BenedictWhite said:
Well, Osborne has done that to the country...williamglenn said:
Could be just a pre-emptive move to reassure shareholders. As Brexit is a 50-50 shot, it would be a brave listed company to come out and say they'd be stuffed by it.BenedictWhite said:Well, Legal and General are not bothered about #Brexit.
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The 80s were superb. The music was superb - the Jam (til 82), the Clash, the Undrrtones, the Pogues, Dexys. Cheap football, beer and fags, great clubs, signing on and housing benefit, then three years in Spain. First child in 1990 and everything changed. Very different in the 1990s, but also brilliant. Being young is just good. Even when it's crap.tyson said:
I think the 80's was overall really quite naff on all fronts, barring Manchester, where I was growing up. Cinema wise, apart from Raging Bull- which was filmed in 1979, but released in 1980, it was utter tosh. I think we had to wait until Pulp Fiction (1994) until cinema found its feet again.TheScreamingEagles said:
I love all 80s music, the good music and the shit music.tyson said:@TSE
I love the way you try and search for an angle on your leads TSE. This could be like the AV referendum, and you draw some interesting comparisons. But, there is one slight flaw in your analysis. No one put any money on AV, but yet there are the majority of punters still backing remain.
BTW TSE- I ended on your twitter page or instagram page quite by chance. I am not a stalker..honest. But once reaching your page, quite by chance, I explored it a little and was intrigued by your love of 80's music. Do you like the great 80's music...the Smiths, Cure, Joy Division, New Order....or the shit 80's ,music....basically everything else?
I love everything from New Order to The London Boys.
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Ha, good stuff
Residents living in a village sharing its name with Batman's city of Gotham were told their address did not exist when they phoned the local council.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-36550622
In fairness, there are plenty of villages in this country that sound like they could not possibly be real. High Ham, Nempnett Thrubwell, Kingsbury Episcopi, Newton Poppleford, Ebbesbourne Wake, Collingbourne Ducis, Lytchett Matravers, Wrestlingworth
Gods, I love this country0 -
I think this is what mensch was getting at.PrinceofTaranto said:There are some very serious issues of natural justice here with conflicting witness statements being bandied around on the media;allegations of impartial witnesses;
hearsay and therefore inadmissible evidence being published in the press;prejudicial
information on police searches apparently being leaked and published;politicians making allegations about motive publically potentially
photoshopped or out of context photos being published on the internet.The Police need to get a grip quickly as this is turning into a legal minefield.I think the chance of a fair trial now
is nil.0 -
I know you don't mean me, but buggered if I know who anyone in that photo is supposed to be.tyson said:BenedictWhite said:
As in Mair. It may or may not be him...tyson said:
I'm not going to speculate. My comrade from many years past, Benedict White, hits the right note by saying it might be him, and it might not be him. Difficult to say.GIN1138 said:
I don't...tyson said:
I get your driftglw said:
I have to tread carefully because I'm not 100% certain but the most interesting thing about that picture is not the man identified as Mair.Tykejohnno said:
I have no idea who anyone else is supposed to be. I can confirm I am not in that photo nor anyone else I know.
I don't mean you, the elusive Benedict White. It looks like someone else.0 -
OMG- I watched Goodfellas on it's release in Times Square in 1990. It was an afternoon. I don't think I have ever felt such excitement being fully clothed, and without the influence of chemicals ever. I love that film.dodrade said:
Does that mean we count Goodfellas as an 80's film?tyson said:
But filmed in 1979....Next.....Sunil_Prasannan said:
The best Star Wars film, The Empire Strikes Back was released in 1980.tyson said:
I think the 80's was overall really quite naff on all fronts, barring Manchester, where I was growing up. Cinema wise, apart from Raging Bull- which was filmed in 1979, but released in 1980, it was utter tosh. I think we had to wait until Pulp Fiction (1994) until cinema found its feet again.TheScreamingEagles said:
I love all 80s music, the good music and the shit music.tyson said:@TSE
I love the way you try and search for an angle on your leads TSE. This could be like the AV referendum, and you draw some interesting comparisons. But, there is one slight flaw in your analysis. No one put any money on AV, but yet there are the majority of punters still backing remain.
BTW TSE- I ended on your twitter page or instagram page quite by chance. I am not a stalker..honest. But once reaching your page, quite by chance, I explored it a little and was intrigued by your love of 80's music. Do you like the great 80's music...the Smiths, Cure, Joy Division, New Order....or the shit 80's ,music....basically everything else?
I love everything from New Order to The London Boys.
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I know all about this stuff. I deal with it every day at work. You have to measure this risk against the risks to the City of staying in and, of course, of all the other advantages/disadvantages of staying or going.TOPPING said:
You do not understand why leaving the EU would be so damaging to The City.BenedictWhite said:
I think you will find that they need access to our money markets more than our money markets need access to them. That is why London trade more $s than New York and China came to London as well.geoffw said:What are we going to do with all that sovereignty when we win?
I propose banishing the FT to Frankfurt.
Having explained it here a thousand times, and to save every other poster's sanity, I am not going to tell you why it would be. You can google stuff.
Here's a hint ( @Cyclefree look away now).
Still, vote Remain to save the City has a certain ring to it, no? And will go down well with many outside London, I'm sure.
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Ugh! I think I'll refrain from clicking...YellowSubmarine said:https://www.britainfirst.org NSFW but that's the website. The front page is dominated with referendum stories in general and pieces on the coverage of the Jo Cox murder in particular.
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Sent you a private message.BenedictWhite said:
Not sure who you mean and who it is supposed to be,Tony said:
Think we're on the same wavelength glw, but I don't think it's the same guy on the left.BenedictWhite said:
What is interesting? (Apart from the fact that doesn't look like Mair to me)glw said:
I have to tread carefully because I'm not 100% certain but the most interesting thing about that picture is not the man identified as Mair.Tykejohnno said:
Although the hair looks fairly similar.
@Benedict witness.0 -
Which is completely lost by her calling on Cameron to resign without immediately obvious context.Tykejohnno said:
I think this is what mensch was getting at.PrinceofTaranto said:There are some very serious issues of natural justice here with conflicting witness statements being bandied around on the media;allegations of impartial witnesses;
hearsay and therefore inadmissible evidence being published in the press;prejudicial
information on police searches apparently being leaked and published;politicians making allegations about motive publically potentially
photoshopped or out of context photos being published on the internet.The Police need to get a grip quickly as this is turning into a legal minefield.I think the chance of a fair trial now
is nil.0 -
Yes and she is right.I am a solicitor and I can confirm that the Court will have a real problem with these issues if there is a murder charge and Mair pleads an insanity defence.Tykejohnno said:
I think this is what mensch was getting at.PrinceofTaranto said:There are some very serious issues of natural justice here with conflicting witness statements being bandied around on the media;allegations of impartial witnesses;
hearsay and therefore inadmissible evidence being published in the press;prejudicial
information on police searches apparently being leaked and published;politicians making allegations about motive publically potentially
photoshopped or out of context photos being published on the internet.The Police need to get a grip quickly as this is turning into a legal minefield.I think the chance of a fair trial now
is nil.0 -
The ShiningRichard_Tyndall said:
Local Hero!!!Sunil_Prasannan said:
It was released in 1980. That's when we first got to see it. Next...tyson said:
But filmed in 1979....Next.....Sunil_Prasannan said:
The best Star Wars film, The Empire Strikes Back was released in 1980.tyson said:
I think the 80's was overall really quite naff on all fronts, barring Manchester, where I was growing up. Cinema wise, apart from Raging Bull- which was filmed in 1979, but released in 1980, it was utter tosh. I think we had to wait until Pulp Fiction (1994) until cinema found its feet again.TheScreamingEagles said:
I love all 80s music, the good music and the shit music.tyson said:@TSE
I love the way you try and search for an angle on your leads TSE. This could be like the AV referendum, and you draw some interesting comparisons. But, there is one slight flaw in your analysis. No one put any money on AV, but yet there are the majority of punters still backing remain.
BTW TSE- I ended on your twitter page or instagram page quite by chance. I am not a stalker..honest. But once reaching your page, quite by chance, I explored it a little and was intrigued by your love of 80's music. Do you like the great 80's music...the Smiths, Cure, Joy Division, New Order....or the shit 80's ,music....basically everything else?
I love everything from New Order to The London Boys.
Other 80s classics, film-wise include:
The Breakfast Club
Die Hard
Aliens
Beverley Hills Cop
Escape from New York
Terminator
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Superman II
Blade Runner
E.T.
Back to the Future
Predator
Footloose
Dirty Dancing
Tootsie
Ghostbusters
Um... to name a few
Das Boot
The Elephant Man
Breaker Morant
The Killing Fields0 -
What the article doesn't say is why Gotham got its reputation for madness. It is said that it was because in medieval times the village didn't want a King's highway traversing their parish as they would have to pay to maintain it. So they feigned madness - which was supposedly catching - so that the road would be routed elsewhere.kle4 said:Ha, good stuff
Residents living in a village sharing its name with Batman's city of Gotham were told their address did not exist when they phoned the local council.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-36550622
In fairness, there are plenty of villages in this country that sound like they could not possibly be real. High Ham, Nempnett Thrubwell, Kingsbury Episcopi, Newton Poppleford, Ebbesbourne Wake, Collingbourne Ducis, Lytchett Matravers, Wrestlingworth
Gods, I love this country0 -
But filmed in 1979....Next.....
It was released in 1980. That's when we first got to see it. Next...
Other 80s classics, film-wise include:
The Breakfast Club- shit
Die Hard- shit, but kinda of fun
Aliens- shit- but passes 2 and a half hours
Beverley Hills Cop- really shit, and dated
Escape from New York-shit, and crap
Terminator-not bad, perhaps
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan-shit
Superman II-OK(ish)
Blade Runner- I'll give you this one- but ahead of it's time by at least 15 years
E.T.- mawkish shit
Back to the Future- shit
Predator- shit
Footloose- shit, shit
Dirty Dancing- fucking shit
Tootsie- sort of alright
Ghostbuster-juvenile shit
Um... to name a few
Local Hero!!!- sentimental shit
@above
I have just objectively critiqued the above 80's classics for you
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The last time the Sun backed the losing side in a British general election or referendum was in 1974. In 1997 the Times backed the Tories.CarlottaVance said:
Interesting that Murdoch is hedging his bets with Times REMAIN, Sun LEAVE - of course that also probably reflects the newspaper's respective readers views....
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It may not go down well, but this country is very dependent on London. Without it, taxes would be a lot higher and/or there would be even further cuts to public services. It's silly to pretend otherwise.Cyclefree said:
I know all about this stuff. I deal with it every day at work. You have to measure this risk against the risks to the City of staying in and, of course, of all the other advantages/disadvantages of staying or going.TOPPING said:
You do not understand why leaving the EU would be so damaging to The City.BenedictWhite said:
I think you will find that they need access to our money markets more than our money markets need access to them. That is why London trade more $s than New York and China came to London as well.geoffw said:What are we going to do with all that sovereignty when we win?
I propose banishing the FT to Frankfurt.
Having explained it here a thousand times, and to save every other poster's sanity, I am not going to tell you why it would be. You can google stuff.
Here's a hint ( @Cyclefree look away now).
Still, vote Remain to save the City has a certain ring to it, no? And will go down well with many outside London, I'm sure.
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She's incensed about it.Tykejohnno said:
I think this is what mensch was getting at.PrinceofTaranto said:There are some very serious issues of natural justice here with conflicting witness statements being bandied around on the media;allegations of impartial witnesses;
hearsay and therefore inadmissible evidence being published in the press;prejudicial
information on police searches apparently being leaked and published;politicians making allegations about motive publically potentially
photoshopped or out of context photos being published on the internet.The Police need to get a grip quickly as this is turning into a legal minefield.I think the chance of a fair trial now
is nil.0 -
I walked miles with five kids (all under the age of 10; not all mine!) and my ancient dog tonight. The world is a much happier, rewarding place when spent with children. Makes it extra sad that two have lost their Mam.
The Twitterati is bonkers. You look at it and think WTF and then can't help but get involved too! I must stay away from my phone!!
Safe to say, if Brexit happens next week it will be the gateway to the biggest gnashing of lefty, privileged, metropolitan teeth in the history of teeth gnashing.
Fuck me. Those guys hate us feckless, stupid, ignorant working classes. How dare we vote in a way they don't agree with? I almost find myself agreeing that I'm an ignorant racist scumbag.
I must stay away from my phone.....0 -
Well it might not go down well with people who are prejudiced against London (which is very many of them) but that doesn't stop it being an important consideration.Cyclefree said:
I know all about this stuff. I deal with it every day at work. You have to measure this risk against the risks to the City of staying in and, of course, of all the other advantages/disadvantages of staying or going.TOPPING said:
You do not understand why leaving the EU would be so damaging to The City.BenedictWhite said:
I think you will find that they need access to our money markets more than our money markets need access to them. That is why London trade more $s than New York and China came to London as well.geoffw said:What are we going to do with all that sovereignty when we win?
I propose banishing the FT to Frankfurt.
Having explained it here a thousand times, and to save every other poster's sanity, I am not going to tell you why it would be. You can google stuff.
Here's a hint ( @Cyclefree look away now).
Still, vote Remain to save the City has a certain ring to it, no? And will go down well with many outside London, I'm sure.0 -
American werewolf in london.RodCrosby said:
The ShiningRichard_Tyndall said:
Local Hero!!!Sunil_Prasannan said:
It was released in 1980. That's when we first got to see it. Next...tyson said:
But filmed in 1979....Next.....Sunil_Prasannan said:
The best Star Wars film, The Empire Strikes Back was released in 1980.tyson said:
I think the 80's was overall really quite naff on all fronts, barring Manchester, where I was growing up. Cinema wise, apart from Raging Bull- which was filmed in 1979, but released in 1980, it was utter tosh. I think we had to wait until Pulp Fiction (1994) until cinema found its feet again.TheScreamingEagles said:
I love all 80s music, the good music and the shit music.tyson said:@TSE
I love the way you try and search for an angle on your leads TSE. This could be like the AV referendum, and you draw some interesting comparisons. But, there is one slight flaw in your analysis. No one put any money on AV, but yet there are the majority of punters still backing remain.
BTW TSE- I ended on your twitter page or instagram page quite by chance. I am not a stalker..honest. But once reaching your page, quite by chance, I explored it a little and was intrigued by your love of 80's music. Do you like the great 80's music...the Smiths, Cure, Joy Division, New Order....or the shit 80's ,music....basically everything else?
I love everything from New Order to The London Boys.
Other 80s classics, film-wise include:
The Breakfast Club
Die Hard
Aliens
Beverley Hills Cop
Escape from New York
Terminator
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Superman II
Blade Runner
E.T.
Back to the Future
Predator
Footloose
Dirty Dancing
Tootsie
Ghostbusters
Um... to name a few
Das Boot
The Elephant Man
Breaker Morant
The Killing Fields0 -
Of course it would but it isn't a scenario I look forward to.RealBritain said:
To return to exactly what we were discussing before the terrible event, if this were to happen it would be entirely the fault of the leave campaign.FrankBooth said:In some ways the thing I now really fear is a leave win and then a deal that doesn't end free movement. It would be seen as a betrayal that makes Clegg and tuition fees a minor squabble in comparison.
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That's awkward.PlatoSaid said:
Louise MenschBenedictWhite said:
As in Mair. It may or may not be him...tyson said:
I'm not going to speculate. My comrade from many years past, Benedict White, hits the right note by saying it might be him, and it might not be him. Difficult to say.GIN1138 said:
I don't...tyson said:
I get your driftglw said:
I have to tread carefully because I'm not 100% certain but the most interesting thing about that picture is not the man identified as Mair.Tykejohnno said:
I have no idea who anyone else is supposed to be. I can confirm I am not in that photo nor anyone else I know.
.@CharlesBAnthony that's not Tommy Mair. It's this guy. T. Mair is 52. you're welcome. https://t.co/ieKdmVwlbY0 -
The Times did not back the Tories in 1997, it advocated its readers back eurosceptic candidates from all the main partiesJohn_N4 said:
The last time the Sun backed the losing side in a British general election or referendum was in 1974. In 1997 the Times backed the Tories.CarlottaVance said:
Interesting that Murdoch is hedging his bets with Times REMAIN, Sun LEAVE - of course that also probably reflects the newspaper's respective readers views....0 -
Its grammatical mistakes were enough for me. Don't bother.GIN1138 said:
Ugh! I think I'll refrain from clicking...YellowSubmarine said:https://www.britainfirst.org NSFW but that's the website. The front page is dominated with referendum stories in general and pieces on the coverage of the Jo Cox murder in particular.
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No they didn't.John_N4 said:
The last time the Sun backed the losing side in a British general election or referendum was in 1974. In 1997 the Times backed the Tories.CarlottaVance said:
Interesting that Murdoch is hedging his bets with Times REMAIN, Sun LEAVE - of course that also probably reflects the newspaper's respective readers views....
In 1997 they didn't back any party, they urged voters to vote for the most eurosceptic candidate in their constituency.
So they endorsed the likes of Michael Portillo, Tony Benn, Sir James Goldsmith, and erm Nick Palmer0 -
You have gone from being just deluded to my all time arch enemy Mr Tyson. You can slag off democracy all you like but when you start slagging off one of the greatest films ever made you really have crossed a line!!!!tyson said:
Local Hero!!!- sentimental shit
@above
I have just objectively critiqued the above 80's classics for you
In jest of course but still DEADLY SERIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(You can tell by the number of exclamation marks)0 -
It was amazing at the time, but seems incredibly weak and dated now (CGI era)...Tykejohnno said:
American werewolf in london.RodCrosby said:
The ShiningRichard_Tyndall said:
Local Hero!!!Sunil_Prasannan said:
It was released in 1980. That's when we first got to see it. Next...tyson said:
But filmed in 1979....Next.....Sunil_Prasannan said:
The best Star Wars film, The Empire Strikes Back was released in 1980.tyson said:
I think the 80's was overall really quite naff on all fronts, barring Manchester, where I was growing up. Cinema wise, apart from Raging Bull- which was filmed in 1979, but released in 1980, it was utter tosh. I think we had to wait until Pulp Fiction (1994) until cinema found its feet again.TheScreamingEagles said:
I love all 80s music, the good music and the shit music.tyson said:@TSE
I love the way you try and search for an angle on your leads TSE. This could be like the AV referendum, and you draw some interesting comparisons. But, there is one slight flaw in your analysis. No one put any money on AV, but yet there are the majority of punters still backing remain.
BTW TSE- I ended on your twitter page or instagram page quite by chance. I am not a stalker..honest. But once reaching your page, quite by chance, I explored it a little and was intrigued by your love of 80's music. Do you like the great 80's music...the Smiths, Cure, Joy Division, New Order....or the shit 80's ,music....basically everything else?
I love everything from New Order to The London Boys.
Other 80s classics, film-wise include:
The Breakfast Club
Die Hard
Aliens
Beverley Hills Cop
Escape from New York
Terminator
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Superman II
Blade Runner
E.T.
Back to the Future
Predator
Footloose
Dirty Dancing
Tootsie
Ghostbusters
Um... to name a few
Das Boot
The Elephant Man
Breaker Morant
The Killing Fields0 -
The Shining- arthouse shit
Das Boot- not bad, but too long
The Elephant Man- over the top and arthouse shit
Breaker Morant- OK for a TV drama
The Killing Fields- fucking dated and sentimental shit if you watch it again
@above
I've just given a further objective critique on those batch of 80's films.
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As in "real life" I'm careful not to enter into cesspits when I'm online. I appreciate others will want to out of curiosity if nothing else, but it's not for me...Jobabob said:
Its grammatical mistakes were enough for me. Don't bother.GIN1138 said:
Ugh! I think I'll refrain from clicking...YellowSubmarine said:https://www.britainfirst.org NSFW but that's the website. The front page is dominated with referendum stories in general and pieces on the coverage of the Jo Cox murder in particular.
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Your not kidding ;-)PlatoSaid said:
She's incensed about it.Tykejohnno said:
I think this is what mensch was getting at.PrinceofTaranto said:There are some very serious issues of natural justice here with conflicting witness statements being bandied around on the media;allegations of impartial witnesses;
hearsay and therefore inadmissible evidence being published in the press;prejudicial
information on police searches apparently being leaked and published;politicians making allegations about motive publically potentially
photoshopped or out of context photos being published on the internet.The Police need to get a grip quickly as this is turning into a legal minefield.I think the chance of a fair trial now
is nil.
Louise Mensch @LouiseMensch
Louise Mensch Retweeted Dick Mackintosh
Fuck off and withdraw your trolling tweet of the photo of a Britain First activist who is NOT mentally ill Tom Mair
Dick Mackintosh
@DickMackintosh
Why are you spinning the assassination of Jo Cox to further your campaign to leave the EU @LouiseMensch
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Shows what I know about photoshopping but still very weird that the 3rd guy was dressed so differently to the othersMP_SE said:
I really did not want to comment on the photo earlier. However, the t-shirt seemed like an unusual choice for a 52 year old man.PlatoSaid said:
Louise MenschBenedictWhite said:
As in Mair. It may or may not be him...tyson said:
I'm not going to speculate. My comrade from many years past, Benedict White, hits the right note by saying it might be him, and it might not be him. Difficult to say.GIN1138 said:
I don't...tyson said:
I get your driftglw said:
I have to tread carefully because I'm not 100% certain but the most interesting thing about that picture is not the man identified as Mair.Tykejohnno said:
I have no idea who anyone else is supposed to be. I can confirm I am not in that photo nor anyone else I know.
.@CharlesBAnthony that's not Tommy Mair. It's this guy. T. Mair is 52. you're welcome. https://t.co/ieKdmVwlbY0 -
So much so she called for the resignation of the PM.PlatoSaid said:
She's incensed about it.Tykejohnno said:
I think this is what mensch was getting at.PrinceofTaranto said:There are some very serious issues of natural justice here with conflicting witness statements being bandied around on the media;allegations of impartial witnesses;
hearsay and therefore inadmissible evidence being published in the press;prejudicial
information on police searches apparently being leaked and published;politicians making allegations about motive publically potentially
photoshopped or out of context photos being published on the internet.The Police need to get a grip quickly as this is turning into a legal minefield.I think the chance of a fair trial now
is nil.
Answers on a postcard.0 -
Oh I disagree. I think the make-up and special effects is still magnificent today. Great film.RodCrosby said:
It was amazing at the time, but seems incredibly weak and dated now (CGI era)...Tykejohnno said:
American werewolf in london.RodCrosby said:
The ShiningRichard_Tyndall said:
Local Hero!!!Sunil_Prasannan said:
It was released in 1980. That's when we first got to see it. Next...tyson said:
But filmed in 1979....Next.....Sunil_Prasannan said:
The best Star Wars film, The Empire Strikes Back was released in 1980.tyson said:
I think the 80's was overall really quite naff on all fronts, barring Manchester, where I was growing up. Cinema wise, apart from Raging Bull- which was filmed in 1979, but released in 1980, it was utter tosh. I think we had to wait until Pulp Fiction (1994) until cinema found its feet again.TheScreamingEagles said:
I love all 80s music, the good music and the shit music.tyson said:@TSE
I love the way you try and search for an angle on your leads TSE. This could be like the AV referendum, and you draw some interesting comparisons. But, there is one slight flaw in your analysis. No one put any money on AV, but yet there are the majority of punters still backing remain.
BTW TSE- I ended on your twitter page or instagram page quite by chance. I am not a stalker..honest. But once reaching your page, quite by chance, I explored it a little and was intrigued by your love of 80's music. Do you like the great 80's music...the Smiths, Cure, Joy Division, New Order....or the shit 80's ,music....basically everything else?
I love everything from New Order to The London Boys.
Other 80s classics, film-wise include:
The Breakfast Club
Die Hard
Aliens
Beverley Hills Cop
Escape from New York
Terminator
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Superman II
Blade Runner
E.T.
Back to the Future
Predator
Footloose
Dirty Dancing
Tootsie
Ghostbusters
Um... to name a few
Das Boot
The Elephant Man
Breaker Morant
The Killing Fields0 -
Utterly deluded, just like your politics1tyson said:
.It was released in 1980. That's when we first got to see it. Next...
Other 80s classics, film-wise include:
The Breakfast Club- shit
Die Hard- shit, but kinda of fun
Aliens- shit- but passes 2 and a half hours
Beverley Hills Cop- really shit, and dated
Escape from New York-shit, and crap
Terminator-not bad, perhaps
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan-shit
Superman II-OK(ish)
Blade Runner- I'll give you this one- but ahead of it's time by at least 15 years
E.T.- mawkish shit
Back to the Future- shit
Predator- shit
Footloose- shit, shit
Dirty Dancing- fucking shit
Tootsie- sort of alright
Ghostbuster-juvenile shit
Um... to name a few
Local Hero!!!- sentimental shit
@above
I have just objectively critiqued the above 80's classics for you0 -
Happy to join you in the Local Hero appreciation society. A wonderful film. So beautifully shot.Richard_Tyndall said:
You have gone from being just deluded to my all time arch enemy Mr Tyson. You can slag off democracy all you like but when you start slagging off one of the greatest films ever made you really have crossed a line!!!!tyson said:
Local Hero!!!- sentimental shit
@above
I have just objectively critiqued the above 80's classics for you
In jest of course but still DEADLY SERIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(You can tell by the number of exclamation marks)
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This too: That point being the witnesses who say BNP guy is lying are MuslimsPlatoSaid said:
She's incensed about it.Tykejohnno said:
I think this is what mensch was getting at.PrinceofTaranto said:There are some very serious issues of natural justice here with conflicting witness statements being bandied around on the media;allegations of impartial witnesses;
hearsay and therefore inadmissible evidence being published in the press;prejudicial
information on police searches apparently being leaked and published;politicians making allegations about motive publically potentially
photoshopped or out of context photos being published on the internet.The Police need to get a grip quickly as this is turning into a legal minefield.I think the chance of a fair trial now
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Lost the plot today I fear... she's also retweeted perhaps 1000 times today too.Jobabob said:
So much so she called for the resignation of the PM.PlatoSaid said:
She's incensed about it.Tykejohnno said:
I think this is what mensch was getting at.PrinceofTaranto said:There are some very serious issues of natural justice here with conflicting witness statements being bandied around on the media;allegations of impartial witnesses;
hearsay and therefore inadmissible evidence being published in the press;prejudicial
information on police searches apparently being leaked and published;politicians making allegations about motive publically potentially
photoshopped or out of context photos being published on the internet.The Police need to get a grip quickly as this is turning into a legal minefield.I think the chance of a fair trial now
is nil.
Answers on a postcard.0 -
Apparently rural folk are wily when it comes to feigning matters. Like the one about smugglers raking up stashed goods from a pond, caught by local officials, and claimed they were trying to rake in the reflection of the moon as they thought it a cheese. I presume the story is apocryphal, but I'm still proud to be a moonraker.Richard_Tyndall said:
What the article doesn't say is why Gotham got its reputation for madness. It is said that it was because in medieval times the village didn't want a King's highway traversing their parish as they would have to pay to maintain it. So they feigned madness - which was supposedly catching - so that the road would be routed elsewhere.kle4 said:Ha, good stuff
Residents living in a village sharing its name with Batman's city of Gotham were told their address did not exist when they phoned the local council.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-36550622
In fairness, there are plenty of villages in this country that sound like they could not possibly be real. High Ham, Nempnett Thrubwell, Kingsbury Episcopi, Newton Poppleford, Ebbesbourne Wake, Collingbourne Ducis, Lytchett Matravers, Wrestlingworth
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I'm not making any claims of identity for anyone in that photo. Just saying it doesn't seem faked. I'm sure if there are links to particular groups, there will be better evidence than what we can Google out there.
It's just incredible how far people will go to push this one way or the other0 -
Wall Street 1988, Platoon 1987, Top Gun, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Stand By Me 1986, Batman 1989, Amadeus 1984, The Terminator 1984, Nightmare on Elm Street 1984, Dead Poets Society 19890
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Was there a single film released between 1980 and 1989 that wasn't some variant of shit?Sunil_Prasannan said:
Utterly deluded, just like your politics1tyson said:
.It was released in 1980. That's when we first got to see it. Next...
Other 80s classics, film-wise include:
The Breakfast Club- shit
Die Hard- shit, but kinda of fun
Aliens- shit- but passes 2 and a half hours
Beverley Hills Cop- really shit, and dated
Escape from New York-shit, and crap
Terminator-not bad, perhaps
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan-shit
Superman II-OK(ish)
Blade Runner- I'll give you this one- but ahead of it's time by at least 15 years
E.T.- mawkish shit
Back to the Future- shit
Predator- shit
Footloose- shit, shit
Dirty Dancing- fucking shit
Tootsie- sort of alright
Ghostbuster-juvenile shit
Um... to name a few
Local Hero!!!- sentimental shit
@above
I have just objectively critiqued the above 80's classics for you
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Well it sure seemed an improvement on Lon Chaney, in 1981...Fenster said:
Oh I disagree. I think the make-up and special effects is still magnificent today. Great film.RodCrosby said:
It was amazing at the time, but seems incredibly weak and dated now (CGI era)...Tykejohnno said:
American werewolf in london.RodCrosby said:
The ShiningRichard_Tyndall said:
Local Hero!!!Sunil_Prasannan said:
It was released in 1980. That's when we first got to see it. Next...tyson said:
But filmed in 1979....Next.....Sunil_Prasannan said:
The best Star Wars film, The Empire Strikes Back was released in 1980.tyson said:
I think the 80's was overall really quite naff on all fronts, barring Manchester, where I was growing up. Cinema wise, apart from Raging Bull- which was filmed in 1979, but released in 1980, it was utter tosh. I think we had to wait until Pulp Fiction (1994) until cinema found its feet again.TheScreamingEagles said:
I love all 80s music, the good music and the shit music.tyson said:@TSE
I love the way you try and search for an angle on your leads TSE. This could be like the AV referendum, and you draw some interesting comparisons. But, there is one slight flaw in your analysis. No one put any money on AV, but yet there are the majority of punters still backing remain.
BTW TSE- I ended on your twitter page or instagram page quite by chance. I am not a stalker..honest. But once reaching your page, quite by chance, I explored it a little and was intrigued by your love of 80's music. Do you like the great 80's music...the Smiths, Cure, Joy Division, New Order....or the shit 80's ,music....basically everything else?
I love everything from New Order to The London Boys.
Other 80s classics, film-wise include:
The Breakfast Club
Die Hard
Aliens
Beverley Hills Cop
Escape from New York
Terminator
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Superman II
Blade Runner
E.T.
Back to the Future
Predator
Footloose
Dirty Dancing
Tootsie
Ghostbusters
Um... to name a few
Das Boot
The Elephant Man
Breaker Morant
The Killing Fields0 -
Policy Academy 5Jobabob said:
Was there a single film released between 1980 and 1989 that wasn't some variant of shit?Sunil_Prasannan said:
Utterly deluded, just like your politics1tyson said:
.It was released in 1980. That's when we first got to see it. Next...
Other 80s classics, film-wise include:
The Breakfast Club- shit
Die Hard- shit, but kinda of fun
Aliens- shit- but passes 2 and a half hours
Beverley Hills Cop- really shit, and dated
Escape from New York-shit, and crap
Terminator-not bad, perhaps
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan-shit
Superman II-OK(ish)
Blade Runner- I'll give you this one- but ahead of it's time by at least 15 years
E.T.- mawkish shit
Back to the Future- shit
Predator- shit
Footloose- shit, shit
Dirty Dancing- fucking shit
Tootsie- sort of alright
Ghostbuster-juvenile shit
Um... to name a few
Local Hero!!!- sentimental shit
@above
I have just objectively critiqued the above 80's classics for you0 -
It's appalling to insinuate people with mental illness are insane, as Louise Mensch seems to be doing.0
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Actually you posted on my wall... (Now deleted.)Tony said:
Sent you a private message.BenedictWhite said:
Not sure who you mean and who it is supposed to be,Tony said:
Think we're on the same wavelength glw, but I don't think it's the same guy on the left.BenedictWhite said:
What is interesting? (Apart from the fact that doesn't look like Mair to me)glw said:
I have to tread carefully because I'm not 100% certain but the most interesting thing about that picture is not the man identified as Mair.Tykejohnno said:
Although the hair looks fairly similar.
@Benedict witness.
No, can't quite see that either... May be but no more likely than Mair.0 -
You can imagine what it was like when her and Tim got going, lol!SouthamObserver said:It's appalling to insinuate people with mental illness are insane, as Louise Mensch seems to be doing.
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As a totally off-topic and possibly useless point to lighten the grimness, despite never agreeing with her I do always find her very attractive.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Lost the plot today I fear... she's also retweeted perhaps 1000 times today too.Jobabob said:
So much so she called for the resignation of the PM.PlatoSaid said:
She's incensed about it.Tykejohnno said:
I think this is what mensch was getting at.PrinceofTaranto said:There are some very serious issues of natural justice here with conflicting witness statements being bandied around on the media;allegations of impartial witnesses;
hearsay and therefore inadmissible evidence being published in the press;prejudicial
information on police searches apparently being leaked and published;politicians making allegations about motive publically potentially
photoshopped or out of context photos being published on the internet.The Police need to get a grip quickly as this is turning into a legal minefield.I think the chance of a fair trial now
is nil.
Answers on a postcard.0 -
You and Southam- you are a couple of sentimental saddos. A bit of mawkish music, a red telephone box on a Scottish beach, a box of hankies and that's it, you are completely gonersRichard_Tyndall said:
You have gone from being just deluded to my all time arch enemy Mr Tyson. You can slag off democracy all you like but when you start slagging off one of the greatest films ever made you really have crossed a line!!!!tyson said:
Local Hero!!!- sentimental shit
@above
I have just objectively critiqued the above 80's classics for you
In jest of course but still DEADLY SERIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(You can tell by the number of exclamation marks)
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My erstwhile colleague worked on it. Pennan is a magical place. Well worth a visit if you are in the areaSouthamObserver said:Happy to join you in the Local Hero appreciation society. A wonderful film. So beautifully shot.
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