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TheScreamingEagles said:

George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

So back to personalities then.

Ho hum.

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Eagles, yeah, we know Osborne's tactic is shout 'Nigel Farage' at every opportunity.

Presumably the intent is to get one the 'respectable' Outers to publicly distance themselves from Farage

TheScreamingEagles said:

George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

Smear smear smear

Osborne is an odious toad. No political grave can be dug that will be too deep for him.

felix said:

You mean like Boris or did he change his mind on principle?

@DPJHodges: Have a look at this video and seriously tell me Boris has been consistent and principled during this referendum. https://t.co/wkZh0nTOxX

TheScreamingEagles said:

Anyone got any Euro 2016 tips?

I've gone for Germany at 9/2

And Lewandoski and Lukaku as top goalscorers at 18/1 and 20/1

Sweepstake only. Sweden at 80/1

Scott_P said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Eagles, yeah, we know Osborne's tactic is shout 'Nigel Farage' at every opportunity.

Presumably the intent is to get one the 'respectable' Outers to publicly distance themselves from Farage

Ah class snobbery, it had to come.

FrancisUrquhart said:

This 3rd umpire us far too professional...bring back tthe aussie one.

Lucky escape for bairstow there.

How has that not been given out?

Alanbrooke said:

Ah class snobbery, it had to come.

It came last week when the Lord high Chancellor talked about the Elite with his pal Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

Alanbrooke said:

I see the John and Tony show went down well

DUP MP Nigel Dodds

“Surely this is the most irresponsible talk that can be perpetuated in terms of Northern Ireland – very dangerous, destabilising and it should not be happening,”

Nigel is a Brexiteer. He and the DUP will not like it as it will strengthen the remain vote in the audience they were speaking to.

It does look as if there is now a full frontal co-ordinated attack on leave, which is going to be coming from many directions, not just blue on blue. Nicola Sturgeon and Angela Eagle v Boris tonight, Corbyn' TV debate to young people on the 20th, and Khan v Boris towards the end of the campaign. Many on here last night dismissed Sarah Wollaston as a non story and I did warn that it would be huge today on the broadcast media. It has and in spades but what on earth has possessed leave to accuse her of not wanting to put more money in the NHS. She is chair of the Health Select Committee and that comment is an avoidable own goal and has been called out by the Sky reporter

Scott_P said:

Alanbrooke said:

Ah class snobbery, it had to come.

It came last week when the Lord high Chancellor talked about the Elite with his pal Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

Nah it started ages before that with the we know what's best for the little people shtick.

AnneJGP said:

Casino_Royale said:

Scott_P said:

Balckburn's 14/1 looking perilous...

@sarahwollaston: To be clear, 1.I have not asked for or been offered any Govt post 2.I have not deleted any of my EU tweets 3. I am not auditioning for 007

Except we can no longer trust a word she says.

I am sure Dr Wollaston has been acting from the highest principles throughout, but it does seem to follow that she's been remarkably blinkered to the scope of the issue we're about to vote on. Still is, in fact. Her judgment up to yesterday was that it would be in the best interests of the UK to leave the EU; and now it's all about the NHS alone.

I find it very puzzling.

(edited to add: good afternoon, everyone)

£163 million* a week is still a lot of money.

(*that of course is based on the NET amount of £8.5 billion given to Brussels in 2015)

felix said:

Alanbrooke said:

felix said:

Alanbrooke said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

How the Sarah Wollaston conspiracy theory proves David Cameron is a political genius

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/09/how-the-sarah-wollaston-conspiracy-theory-proves-david-cameron-i/

LOL let's see what happens post 23rd.

The man may have just lost his party

Like Robert Peel in another time he puts the country first - Boris is the party man and like Disraeli of yore he'll betray the Leave agenda if he gets the chance.

There's precious little evidence Cameron puts the country first. His friends and cronies certainly but not the nation.

If you cannot see the evidence you need to take off those blinkers.

https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/739207060286504960

TheScreamingEagles said:

How the Sarah Wollaston conspiracy theory proves David Cameron is a political genius

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/09/how-the-sarah-wollaston-conspiracy-theory-proves-david-cameron-i/

LOL. Even by Mad Nad and LeaveB.com standards this one is a keeper.

Mr. Urquhart, survival horror?

felix said:

Casino_Royale said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

Smear smear smear

Osborne is an odious toad. No political grave can be dug that will be too deep for him.

Truth hurts - you want Nige for a playmate for your dreams you should not be surprised,

Whatever Farage's faults, Osborne is even more horrible.

It's like being on the receiving end of criticism from Peter Sutcliffe.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Alanbrooke said:

I see the John and Tony show went down well

DUP MP Nigel Dodds

“Surely this is the most irresponsible talk that can be perpetuated in terms of Northern Ireland – very dangerous, destabilising and it should not be happening,”

Nigel is a Brexiteer. He and the DUP will not like it as it will strengthen the remain vote in the audience they were speaking to.

It does look as if there is now a full frontal co-ordinated attack on leave, which is going to be coming from many directions, not just blue on blue. Nicola Sturgeon and Angela Eagle v Boris tonight, Corbyn' TV debate to young people on the 20th, and Khan v Boris towards the end of the campaign. Many on here last night dismissed Sarah Wollaston as a non story and I did warn that it would be huge today on the broadcast media. It has and in spades but what on earth has possessed leave to accuse her of not wanting to put more money in the NHS. She is chair of the Health Select Committee and that comment is an avoidable own goal and has been called out by the Sky reporter

??????????

That's plain nuts.

The DUP are the largest party and their people turn out to vote. The nationalists don't like british PMs telling them what to do. can't see that helping Remain

The analysis in Ulster was they came over to NI because they couldn't go to Scotland or fear of upsetting the locals. I suspect they'll piss a lot of the NI locals off.

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Urquhart, survival horror?

You play as either a murder or one of four survivors trying to escape the play area. I think with a bit more development / tweaks it could be very very good. I would say inspired by h1z1 type game, but has a lot of interesting things going for it & possibility to do some really cool things going forward.

Alanbrooke said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Alanbrooke said:

I see the John and Tony show went down well

DUP MP Nigel Dodds

“Surely this is the most irresponsible talk that can be perpetuated in terms of Northern Ireland – very dangerous, destabilising and it should not be happening,”

Nigel is a Brexiteer. He and the DUP will not like it as it will strengthen the remain vote in the audience they were speaking to.

It does look as if there is now a full frontal co-ordinated attack on leave, which is going to be coming from many directions, not just blue on blue. Nicola Sturgeon and Angela Eagle v Boris tonight, Corbyn' TV debate to young people on the 20th, and Khan v Boris towards the end of the campaign. Many on here last night dismissed Sarah Wollaston as a non story and I did warn that it would be huge today on the broadcast media. It has and in spades but what on earth has possessed leave to accuse her of not wanting to put more money in the NHS. She is chair of the Health Select Committee and that comment is an avoidable own goal and has been called out by the Sky reporter

??????????

That's plain nuts.

The DUP are the largest party and their people turn out to vote. The nationalists don't like british PMs telling them what to do. can't see that helping Remain

The analysis in Ulster was they came over to NI because they couldn't go to Scotland or fear of upsetting the locals. I suspect they'll piss a lot of the NI locals off.

The reports are that they were speaking to the substantial remain vote and the obvious fears over the shared border

Louise Mensch seems to have spent the whole day retweeting all of Wollaston's twitter timeline.

fight, fight, fight.

https://twitter.com/sarahwollaston/status/740930024681963520

Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

Luckyguy1983 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

Weak child picking on the only he one thinks the other kids like less than him.

Err, or one of his primary opponents in the campaign.

rottenborough said:

Louise Mensch seems to have spent the whole day retweeting all of Wollaston's twitter timeline.

She seems to have plenty of free time nowadays!

Luckyguy1983 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

Weak child picking on the only he one thinks the other kids like less than him.

Is this change of strategy coming from the Lynton Crosby playbook - It could be very effective if it becomes the remain theme

felix said:

Casino_Royale said:

felix said:

Casino_Royale said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

Smear smear smear

Osborne is an odious toad. No political grave can be dug that will be too deep for him.

Truth hurts - you want Nige for a playmate for your dreams you should not be surprised,

Actually, I'd rather hang out with you.

You sound like a real laugh.

Hang on m8 - this is supposed to be PB not Grindr

12,000 posts for naught

felix said:

Sean_F said:

felix said:

Casino_Royale said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

Smear smear smear

Osborne is an odious toad. No political grave can be dug that will be too deep for him.

Truth hurts - you want Nige for a playmate for your dreams you should not be surprised,

Whatever Farage's faults, Osborne is even more horrible.

It's like being on the receiving end of criticism from Peter Sutcliffe.

Lol -it's that level of sheer personal ott nastiness that is the mark of a true kipper. I'm sure you're entirely sane on other topics.

I thought I was being quite restrained.

Scott_P said:

Sandpit said:

Lay England in any way you can!!! They're always too short with UK bookies due to the weight of patriotic money.

How to bet on football

https://www.1843magazine.com/features/the-daily/how-i-used-maths-to-beat-the-bookies

That's a good article. Thanks.

felix said:

rottenborough said:

Louise Mensch seems to have spent the whole day retweeting all of Wollaston's twitter timeline.

She is that highly principled girl who gave up her marginal seat early on in the last govt and gifted the by-election to Labour.

That was to be able to "spend more time with twitter" right?

He has been offered a job by No 10

@KateEMcCann: NEW: Khalid Mahmood, Brexit backing Labour MP, defecting to remain amid concerns abt tone on "immigration and race" https://t.co/bdcE38UEtS

Oh, wait...

Scott_P said:

He has been offered a job by No 10

@KateEMcCann: NEW: Khalid Mahmood, Brexit backing Labour MP, defecting to remain amid concerns abt tone on "immigration and race" https://t.co/bdcE38UEtS

Oh, wait...

Another fine principled, patriotic lion.

I can't imagine why a non white Leavers have been put off by Leave's tone

Big_G_NorthWales said:

AnneJGP said:

Casino_Royale said:

Scott_P said:

Balckburn's 14/1 looking perilous...

@sarahwollaston: To be clear, 1.I have not asked for or been offered any Govt post 2.I have not deleted any of my EU tweets 3. I am not auditioning for 007

Except we can no longer trust a word she says.

I am sure Dr Wollaston has been acting from the highest principles throughout, but it does seem to follow that she's been remarkably blinkered to the scope of the issue we're about to vote on. Still is, in fact. Her judgment up to yesterday was that it would be in the best interests of the UK to leave the EU; and now it's all about the NHS alone.

I find it very puzzling.

(edited to add: good afternoon, everyone)

It is not just the NHS alone, she is expressing concern on the economic impact and is also unhappy at the way leave are dealing with the immigration issue.

I can understand anyone (even an MP!) changing her mind, being swayed by arguments, etc. What I find hard to understand is anyone at all joining a campaign on either side without having listened to the arguments, thought through the issues and arriving at a settled view.

Perhaps Dr Wollaston has been too focussed on the NHS to give thought to the wider issues until this week.

Later on, she may find herself unhappy at the way Remain are dealing one or more of their primary issues.

rottenborough said:

Louise Mensch seems to have spent the whole day retweeting all of Wollaston's twitter timeline.

I'm for Brexit but Mensch is a dick; let's be honest.

If my wife spent twenty minutes in a pub with her she'd end up flooring her.

felix said:

Casino_Royale said:

felix said:

Sean_F said:

felix said:

Casino_Royale said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

Smear smear smear

Osborne is an odious toad. No political grave can be dug that will be too deep for him.

Truth hurts - you want Nige for a playmate for your dreams you should not be surprised,

Whatever Farage's faults, Osborne is even more horrible.

It's like being on the receiving end of criticism from Peter Sutcliffe.

Lol -it's that level of sheer personal ott nastiness that is the mark of a true kipper. I'm sure you're entirely sane on other topics.

Osborne is a secret kipper?

Well, it's a view.

Concentrate dearie. That brexitis you got is doing real damage.

I really don't want to concentrate on George Osborne.

VoteLeave must be absolutely incandescent with rage at Nigel Farage. They had a good week last week, with immigration and a "points based" system and one inappropriate comment from Farage has completely changed the debate.

TGOHF said:

Scott_P said:

He has been offered a job by No 10

@KateEMcCann: NEW: Khalid Mahmood, Brexit backing Labour MP, defecting to remain amid concerns abt tone on "immigration and race" https://t.co/bdcE38UEtS

Oh, wait...

This guy ? He's a real asset.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1186818/Labour-MP-spent-2-575-staying-riot-gold-marble-silk-hotel-girlfriend.html

"Labour MP spent £2,575 staying in 'riot of gold, marble and silk' hotel with girlfriend

Hahahaha - what did I say this morning?

Hell, what did I say at the very beginning of this campaign? I predicted the racism smears then. Same as UKIP in the GE. My only surprise is it's taken them this long.

LadyBucket said:

VoteLeave must be absolutely incandescent with rage at Nigel Farage. They had a good week last week, with immigration and a "points based" system and one inappropriate comment from Farage has completely changed the debate.

What did he say?

RobD said:

What did he say?

Women could be at risk of mass sex attacks carried out by gangs of migrant men if Britain stays in the EU, Nigel Farage has warned.

AnneJGP said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

AnneJGP said:

Casino_Royale said:

Scott_P said:

Balckburn's 14/1 looking perilous...

@sarahwollaston: To be clear, 1.I have not asked for or been offered any Govt post 2.I have not deleted any of my EU tweets 3. I am not auditioning for 007

Except we can no longer trust a word she says.

I am sure Dr Wollaston has been acting from the highest principles throughout, but it does seem to follow that she's been remarkably blinkered to the scope of the issue we're about to vote on. Still is, in fact. Her judgment up to yesterday was that it would be in the best interests of the UK to leave the EU; and now it's all about the NHS alone.

I find it very puzzling.

(edited to add: good afternoon, everyone)

It is not just the NHS alone, she is expressing concern on the economic impact and is also unhappy at the way leave are dealing with the immigration issue.

I can understand anyone (even an MP!) changing her mind, being swayed by arguments, etc. What I find hard to understand is anyone at all joining a campaign on either side without having listened to the arguments, thought through the issues and arriving at a settled view.

Perhaps Dr Wollaston has been too focussed on the NHS to give thought to the wider issues until this week.

Later on, she may find herself unhappy at the way Remain are dealing one or more of their primary issues.

Listening to her quiet and reasoned arguments today she is firmly a remainer and carries creditability not only as chair of Health Select Committee but as a GP. Also the newly announced defection of a labour Brexiteer to remain over race concerns with leave is not a good picture for their campaign

Scott_P said:

RobD said:

What did he say?

Women could be at risk of mass sex attacks carried out by gangs of migrant men if Britain stays in the EU, Nigel Farage has warned.

Direct quote only please, ta.

Scott_P said:

RobD said:

What did he say?

Women could be at risk of mass sex attacks carried out by gangs of migrant men if Britain stays in the EU, Nigel Farage has warned.

Unsavoury as it may be, is that true or not, especially given events in Germany?

https://mobile.twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/740907654072152064

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Urquhart, depends if they attribute low sales to the weird distribution method or not, as that seems to be the issue.

There'll be another Witcher game (perhaps without Geralt), I think. It's got rave reviews and sold, I think, very well indeed. And rightly so, it's a staggeringly good game.

I quite like the episodic idea & the fact they produce new missions for existing maps. It is like an interactive TV show. It seems like a really interesting model of game where you have constantly evolving tasks within the computer generated world.

RobD said:

Scott_P said:

RobD said:

What did he say?

Women could be at risk of mass sex attacks carried out by gangs of migrant men if Britain stays in the EU, Nigel Farage has warned.

Unsavoury as it may be, is that true or not, especially given events in Germany?

The danger of remain doing this is that it raises the profile of this issue

I really wish those fucking idiots at Vote Leave adopted the Norway Model instead of this current shambles where their British Model or whatever it is can be constantly attacked. O well, I'll be up about 5k should Remain win so not the end of the world.