Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. Sign in or register to get started.

politicalbetting.com » Blog Archive » The voters’ misconceptions could win this for Leave

2456

Comments

  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,714

    George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

    In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

    Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

    The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

    It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

    http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

    So back to personalities then.

    Ho hum.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,080
    Mr. Eagles, yeah, we know Osborne's tactic is shout 'Nigel Farage' at every opportunity.

    Could backfire. Hopefully will. It's not a legitimate argument. [I do think there are some legitimate arguments for staying, though these are outweighed by those for leaving. Shouting 'Nigel Farage' is as reasonable as shouting 'Tony Blair'].
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    Mr. Eagles, yeah, we know Osborne's tactic is shout 'Nigel Farage' at every opportunity.

    Presumably the intent is to get one the 'respectable' Outers to publicly distance themselves from Farage
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,714

    Mr. Eagles, yeah, we know Osborne's tactic is shout 'Nigel Farage' at every opportunity.

    Could backfire. Hopefully will. It's not a legitimate argument. [I do think there are some legitimate arguments for staying, though these are outweighed by those for leaving. Shouting 'Nigel Farage' is as reasonable as shouting 'Tony Blair'].

    I was out down the pub last night with gentlemen of the village. And while it's hardly surprising I wouldn't piss on George if he was on fire, I was somewhat taken aback by one bloke who's views on Osborne made me look a fan.

    It's the first time Ive come across a property developer who's all for smash the state.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180

    Scott_P said:

    Balckburn's 14/1 looking perilous...

    @sarahwollaston: To be clear, 1.I have not asked for or been offered any Govt post 2.I have not deleted any of my EU tweets 3. I am not auditioning for 007

    Except we can no longer trust a word she says.
    You mean like Boris or did he change his mind on principle?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @MSmithsonPB: Tonight’s ITV debate could be start of next CON leader contest with both Boris & Andrea Leadsom on the LEAVE side

    Or if Remain win, this could be the next leader contest

    @BBCPhilipSim: "An' siccan a sotter wiz nivver seen, as the muckin' o' Geordie's byre" https://t.co/Z4u7LRYyZH
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,261

    George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

    In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

    Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

    The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

    It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

    http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

    Smear smear smear

    Osborne is an odious toad. No political grave can be dug that will be too deep for him.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,080
    edited June 2016
    Mr. P, indeed.

    But we're voting on staying with or leaving the EU, not staying with or leaving Nigel Farage. It's a grubby approach, although they do seem to have dropped the 'Little England' line.

    Edited extra bit: also, Lake Manor is (or has been recently) a #1 in the US, Canada and Australia, and even hit #27 in the overall paid list in Canada. Damned impressive given it's the publisher's first book.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    felix said:

    You mean like Boris or did he change his mind on principle?

    @DPJHodges: Have a look at this video and seriously tell me Boris has been consistent and principled during this referendum. https://t.co/wkZh0nTOxX
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180

    felix said:

    How the Sarah Wollaston conspiracy theory proves David Cameron is a political genius

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/09/how-the-sarah-wollaston-conspiracy-theory-proves-david-cameron-i/

    LOL let's see what happens post 23rd.

    The man may have just lost his party
    Like Robert Peel in another time he puts the country first - Boris is the party man and like Disraeli of yore he'll betray the Leave agenda if he gets the chance.
    There's precious little evidence Cameron puts the country first. His friends and cronies certainly but not the nation.
    If you cannot see the evidence you need to take off those blinkers.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,261

    Anyone got any Euro 2016 tips?

    I've gone for Germany at 9/2

    And Lewandoski and Lukaku as top goalscorers at 18/1 and 20/1

    Sweepstake only. Sweden at 80/1
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    edited June 2016
    This 3rd umpire us far too professional...bring back tthe aussie one.

    Lucky escape for bairstow there.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,714
    Scott_P said:

    Mr. Eagles, yeah, we know Osborne's tactic is shout 'Nigel Farage' at every opportunity.

    Presumably the intent is to get one the 'respectable' Outers to publicly distance themselves from Farage
    Ah class snobbery, it had to come.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,152
    edited June 2016

    Scott_P said:

    Balckburn's 14/1 looking perilous...

    @sarahwollaston: To be clear, 1.I have not asked for or been offered any Govt post 2.I have not deleted any of my EU tweets 3. I am not auditioning for 007

    Except we can no longer trust a word she says.
    I am sure Dr Wollaston has been acting from the highest principles throughout, but it does seem to follow that she's been remarkably blinkered to the scope of the issue we're about to vote on. Still is, in fact. Her judgment up to yesterday was that it would be in the best interests of the UK to leave the EU; and now it's all about the NHS alone.

    I find it very puzzling.

    (edited to add: good afternoon, everyone)
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,432

    This 3rd umpire us far too professional...bring back tthe aussie one.

    Lucky escape for bairstow there.

    How has that not been given out?
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180

    George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

    In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

    Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

    The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

    It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

    http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

    So back to personalities then.

    Ho hum.
    Oh the irony!
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    Ah class snobbery, it had to come.

    It came last week when the Lord high Chancellor talked about the Elite with his pal Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    edited June 2016

    This 3rd umpire us far too professional...bring back tthe aussie one.

    Lucky escape for bairstow there.

    How has that not been given out?
    Terrile decision...and crucial for England. Although given how crap Sri Lanka are probably got enough runs already!
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,150

    I see the John and Tony show went down well

    DUP MP Nigel Dodds

    “Surely this is the most irresponsible talk that can be perpetuated in terms of Northern Ireland – very dangerous, destabilising and it should not be happening,”

    Nigel is a Brexiteer. He and the DUP will not like it as it will strengthen the remain vote in the audience they were speaking to.

    It does look as if there is now a full frontal co-ordinated attack on leave, which is going to be coming from many directions, not just blue on blue. Nicola Sturgeon and Angela Eagle v Boris tonight, Corbyn' TV debate to young people on the 20th, and Khan v Boris towards the end of the campaign. Many on here last night dismissed Sarah Wollaston as a non story and I did warn that it would be huge today on the broadcast media. It has and in spades but what on earth has possessed leave to accuse her of not wanting to put more money in the NHS. She is chair of the Health Select Committee and that comment is an avoidable own goal and has been called out by the Sky reporter
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 9,944
    Scott_P said:

    Ah class snobbery, it had to come.

    It came last week when the Lord high Chancellor talked about the Elite with his pal Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
    Yes, Boris with his German ancestry and US passport should be the exact opposite of a Little Englander.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,714
    Scott_P said:

    Ah class snobbery, it had to come.

    It came last week when the Lord high Chancellor talked about the Elite with his pal Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
    Nah it started ages before that with the we know what's best for the little people shtick.

  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180

    George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

    In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

    Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

    The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

    It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

    http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

    Smear smear smear

    Osborne is an odious toad. No political grave can be dug that will be too deep for him.
    Truth hurts - you want Nige for a playmate for your dreams you should not be surprised,
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,414
    AnneJGP said:

    Scott_P said:

    Balckburn's 14/1 looking perilous...

    @sarahwollaston: To be clear, 1.I have not asked for or been offered any Govt post 2.I have not deleted any of my EU tweets 3. I am not auditioning for 007

    Except we can no longer trust a word she says.
    I am sure Dr Wollaston has been acting from the highest principles throughout, but it does seem to follow that she's been remarkably blinkered to the scope of the issue we're about to vote on. Still is, in fact. Her judgment up to yesterday was that it would be in the best interests of the UK to leave the EU; and now it's all about the NHS alone.

    I find it very puzzling.

    (edited to add: good afternoon, everyone)
    £163 million* a week is still a lot of money.

    (*that of course is based on the NET amount of £8.5 billion given to Brussels in 2015)
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,080
    Miss JGP, good afternoon (I agree with your assessment, incidentally).
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,414
    felix said:

    felix said:

    How the Sarah Wollaston conspiracy theory proves David Cameron is a political genius

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/09/how-the-sarah-wollaston-conspiracy-theory-proves-david-cameron-i/

    LOL let's see what happens post 23rd.

    The man may have just lost his party
    Like Robert Peel in another time he puts the country first - Boris is the party man and like Disraeli of yore he'll betray the Leave agenda if he gets the chance.
    There's precious little evidence Cameron puts the country first. His friends and cronies certainly but not the nation.
    If you cannot see the evidence you need to take off those blinkers.
    https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/739207060286504960
  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792

    Thanks to you Leave buggers, I have to spend Monday in Paris.

    I hope you're all proud of yourselves.

    Your bosses are sending you on a fool's errand. Paris, too, will soon be liberated.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/07/its-not-just-the-brits-euroscepticism-on-the-rise-all-across-eur/
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807

    How the Sarah Wollaston conspiracy theory proves David Cameron is a political genius

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/09/how-the-sarah-wollaston-conspiracy-theory-proves-david-cameron-i/

    LOL. Even by Mad Nad and LeaveB.com standards this one is a keeper.


  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    edited June 2016
    Off topic - I know we have a lot of gamers on here. Might I recommend checking out dead by daylight as a really interesting new game that will be available in the next few days.

    Also sad to hear that the hitman game has tanked. IMO up there for best game so far this year, but then it requires a lot of work.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,080
    Mr. Urquhart, survival horror?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,261
    felix said:

    George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

    In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

    Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

    The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

    It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

    http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

    Smear smear smear

    Osborne is an odious toad. No political grave can be dug that will be too deep for him.
    Truth hurts - you want Nige for a playmate for your dreams you should not be surprised,
    Actually, I'd rather hang out with you.

    You sound like a real laugh.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,756
    felix said:

    George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

    In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

    Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

    The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

    It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

    http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

    Smear smear smear

    Osborne is an odious toad. No political grave can be dug that will be too deep for him.
    Truth hurts - you want Nige for a playmate for your dreams you should not be surprised,
    Whatever Farage's faults, Osborne is even more horrible.

    It's like being on the receiving end of criticism from Peter Sutcliffe.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,150
    AnneJGP said:

    Scott_P said:

    Balckburn's 14/1 looking perilous...

    @sarahwollaston: To be clear, 1.I have not asked for or been offered any Govt post 2.I have not deleted any of my EU tweets 3. I am not auditioning for 007

    Except we can no longer trust a word she says.
    I am sure Dr Wollaston has been acting from the highest principles throughout, but it does seem to follow that she's been remarkably blinkered to the scope of the issue we're about to vote on. Still is, in fact. Her judgment up to yesterday was that it would be in the best interests of the UK to leave the EU; and now it's all about the NHS alone.

    I find it very puzzling.

    (edited to add: good afternoon, everyone)
    It is not just the NHS alone, she is expressing concern on the economic impact and is also unhappy at the way leave are dealing with the immigration issue.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,714

    I see the John and Tony show went down well

    DUP MP Nigel Dodds

    “Surely this is the most irresponsible talk that can be perpetuated in terms of Northern Ireland – very dangerous, destabilising and it should not be happening,”

    Nigel is a Brexiteer. He and the DUP will not like it as it will strengthen the remain vote in the audience they were speaking to.

    It does look as if there is now a full frontal co-ordinated attack on leave, which is going to be coming from many directions, not just blue on blue. Nicola Sturgeon and Angela Eagle v Boris tonight, Corbyn' TV debate to young people on the 20th, and Khan v Boris towards the end of the campaign. Many on here last night dismissed Sarah Wollaston as a non story and I did warn that it would be huge today on the broadcast media. It has and in spades but what on earth has possessed leave to accuse her of not wanting to put more money in the NHS. She is chair of the Health Select Committee and that comment is an avoidable own goal and has been called out by the Sky reporter
    ??????????

    That's plain nuts.

    The DUP are the largest party and their people turn out to vote. The nationalists don't like british PMs telling them what to do. can't see that helping Remain

    The analysis in Ulster was they came over to NI because they couldn't go to Scotland or fear of upsetting the locals. I suspect they'll piss a lot of the NI locals off.
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807

    I see the John and Tony show went down well

    DUP MP Nigel Dodds

    “Surely this is the most irresponsible talk that can be perpetuated in terms of Northern Ireland – very dangerous, destabilising and it should not be happening,”

    Nigel is a Brexiteer. He and the DUP will not like it as it will strengthen the remain vote in the audience they were speaking to.

    It does look as if there is now a full frontal co-ordinated attack on leave, which is going to be coming from many directions, not just blue on blue. Nicola Sturgeon and Angela Eagle v Boris tonight, Corbyn' TV debate to young people on the 20th, and Khan v Boris towards the end of the campaign. Many on here last night dismissed Sarah Wollaston as a non story and I did warn that it would be huge today on the broadcast media. It has and in spades but what on earth has possessed leave to accuse her of not wanting to put more money in the NHS. She is chair of the Health Select Committee and that comment is an avoidable own goal and has been called out by the Sky reporter
    She is both chair of the Health Select Committee and a FORMER NHS DOCTOR. Leave are having a bad week.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    edited June 2016

    Mr. Urquhart, survival horror?

    You play as either a murder or one of four survivors trying to escape the play area. I think with a bit more development / tweaks it could be very very good. I would say inspired by h1z1 type game, but has a lot of interesting things going for it & possibility to do some really cool things going forward.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,756

    George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

    In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

    Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

    The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

    It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

    http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

    Smear smear smear

    Osborne is an odious toad. No political grave can be dug that will be too deep for him.
    The Conservative government has spent the last six years criticising mass immigration and its consequences. They can't convincingly defend it now.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,150

    I see the John and Tony show went down well

    DUP MP Nigel Dodds

    “Surely this is the most irresponsible talk that can be perpetuated in terms of Northern Ireland – very dangerous, destabilising and it should not be happening,”

    Nigel is a Brexiteer. He and the DUP will not like it as it will strengthen the remain vote in the audience they were speaking to.

    It does look as if there is now a full frontal co-ordinated attack on leave, which is going to be coming from many directions, not just blue on blue. Nicola Sturgeon and Angela Eagle v Boris tonight, Corbyn' TV debate to young people on the 20th, and Khan v Boris towards the end of the campaign. Many on here last night dismissed Sarah Wollaston as a non story and I did warn that it would be huge today on the broadcast media. It has and in spades but what on earth has possessed leave to accuse her of not wanting to put more money in the NHS. She is chair of the Health Select Committee and that comment is an avoidable own goal and has been called out by the Sky reporter
    ??????????

    That's plain nuts.

    The DUP are the largest party and their people turn out to vote. The nationalists don't like british PMs telling them what to do. can't see that helping Remain

    The analysis in Ulster was they came over to NI because they couldn't go to Scotland or fear of upsetting the locals. I suspect they'll piss a lot of the NI locals off.
    The reports are that they were speaking to the substantial remain vote and the obvious fears over the shared border
  • JonathanDJonathanD Posts: 2,400

    I see the John and Tony show went down well

    DUP MP Nigel Dodds

    “Surely this is the most irresponsible talk that can be perpetuated in terms of Northern Ireland – very dangerous, destabilising and it should not be happening,”

    Nigel is a Brexiteer. He and the DUP will not like it as it will strengthen the remain vote in the audience they were speaking to.

    It does look as if there is now a full frontal co-ordinated attack on leave, which is going to be coming from many directions, not just blue on blue. Nicola Sturgeon and Angela Eagle v Boris tonight, Corbyn' TV debate to young people on the 20th, and Khan v Boris towards the end of the campaign. Many on here last night dismissed Sarah Wollaston as a non story and I did warn that it would be huge today on the broadcast media. It has and in spades but what on earth has possessed leave to accuse her of not wanting to put more money in the NHS. She is chair of the Health Select Committee and that comment is an avoidable own goal and has been called out by the Sky reporter

    The analysis in Ulster was they came over to NI because they couldn't go to Scotland or fear of upsetting the locals.
    Osborne is in Scotland today, so I don't think there is any fear of upsetting the Scots.

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,563
    Louise Mensch seems to have spent the whole day retweeting all of Wollaston's twitter timeline.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 29,265

    George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

    In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

    Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

    The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

    It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

    http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

    Weak child picking on the only he one thinks the other kids like less than him.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,301
    fight, fight, fight.

    https://twitter.com/sarahwollaston/status/740930024681963520

    Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,080
    Mr. Urquhart, so multiplayer?

    I prefer single player, to be honest.

    On Hitman: from what I've seen/heard the game is great. But the distribution method is... unorthodox. Releasing it in chunks with lengthy gaps between each episode and the hard copy only coming out when it's all done is a weird way to do it.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,170

    George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

    In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

    Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

    The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

    It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

    http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

    Weak child picking on the only he one thinks the other kids like less than him.
    Err, or one of his primary opponents in the campaign.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,563
    dr_spyn said:

    fight, fight, fight.

    https://twitter.com/sarahwollaston/status/740930024681963520

    Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

    Libel lawyers: to your stations.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,170

    Louise Mensch seems to have spent the whole day retweeting all of Wollaston's twitter timeline.

    She seems to have plenty of free time nowadays!
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180

    felix said:

    George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

    In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

    Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

    The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

    It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

    http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

    Smear smear smear

    Osborne is an odious toad. No political grave can be dug that will be too deep for him.
    Truth hurts - you want Nige for a playmate for your dreams you should not be surprised,
    Actually, I'd rather hang out with you.

    You sound like a real laugh.
    Hang on m8 - this is supposed to be PB not Grindr :)
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    Sean_F said:

    felix said:

    George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

    In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

    Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

    The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

    It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

    http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

    Smear smear smear

    Osborne is an odious toad. No political grave can be dug that will be too deep for him.
    Truth hurts - you want Nige for a playmate for your dreams you should not be surprised,
    Whatever Farage's faults, Osborne is even more horrible.

    It's like being on the receiving end of criticism from Peter Sutcliffe.
    Lol -it's that level of sheer personal ott nastiness that is the mark of a true kipper. I'm sure you're entirely sane on other topics.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    I expect ~210 is not a bad estimate for Sri Lanka's first innings total, ergo, England are now playing for the lead.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,150

    George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

    In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

    Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

    The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

    It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

    http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

    Weak child picking on the only he one thinks the other kids like less than him.
    Is this change of strategy coming from the Lynton Crosby playbook - It could be very effective if it becomes the remain theme
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Genius..

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/06/09/brexit-might-trigger-run-on-britains-record-financial-debts-sp-w/

    Britain is the world’s most vulnerable state on a key measure of short-term debt and credit markets might suddenly seize up if voters opt for Brexit, Standard & Poor’s has warned.

  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,170
    felix said:

    felix said:

    George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

    In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

    Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

    The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

    It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

    http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

    Smear smear smear

    Osborne is an odious toad. No political grave can be dug that will be too deep for him.
    Truth hurts - you want Nige for a playmate for your dreams you should not be surprised,
    Actually, I'd rather hang out with you.

    You sound like a real laugh.
    Hang on m8 - this is supposed to be PB not Grindr :)
    12,000 posts for naught :(
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,261
    felix said:

    felix said:

    George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

    In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

    Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

    The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

    It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

    http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

    Smear smear smear

    Osborne is an odious toad. No political grave can be dug that will be too deep for him.
    Truth hurts - you want Nige for a playmate for your dreams you should not be surprised,
    Actually, I'd rather hang out with you.

    You sound like a real laugh.
    Hang on m8 - this is supposed to be PB not Grindr :)
    U shld be so lucky.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180

    Louise Mensch seems to have spent the whole day retweeting all of Wollaston's twitter timeline.

    She is that highly principled girl who gave up her marginal seat early on in the last govt and gifted the by-election to Labour.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,261
    felix said:

    Sean_F said:

    felix said:

    George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

    In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

    Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

    The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

    It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

    http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

    Smear smear smear

    Osborne is an odious toad. No political grave can be dug that will be too deep for him.
    Truth hurts - you want Nige for a playmate for your dreams you should not be surprised,
    Whatever Farage's faults, Osborne is even more horrible.

    It's like being on the receiving end of criticism from Peter Sutcliffe.
    Lol -it's that level of sheer personal ott nastiness that is the mark of a true kipper. I'm sure you're entirely sane on other topics.
    Osborne is a secret kipper?

    Well, it's a view.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,756
    felix said:

    Sean_F said:

    felix said:

    George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

    In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

    Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

    The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

    It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

    http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

    Smear smear smear

    Osborne is an odious toad. No political grave can be dug that will be too deep for him.
    Truth hurts - you want Nige for a playmate for your dreams you should not be surprised,
    Whatever Farage's faults, Osborne is even more horrible.

    It's like being on the receiving end of criticism from Peter Sutcliffe.
    Lol -it's that level of sheer personal ott nastiness that is the mark of a true kipper. I'm sure you're entirely sane on other topics.
    I thought I was being quite restrained.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554

    Mr. Urquhart, so multiplayer?

    I prefer single player, to be honest.

    On Hitman: from what I've seen/heard the game is great. But the distribution method is... unorthodox. Releasing it in chunks with lengthy gaps between each episode and the hard copy only coming out when it's all done is a weird way to do it.

    Not just episodic, but they do these contracts that will appear for 2-3 days & then gone forever. Once you have been killed or you killed the target the contract can't be replayed. Which seems very silly...effectively create a new level & then only make available temporarily.

    The levels released so far as fantastic. The Ai is slightly lacking in places, but I think the general concept is great. My fear is because it is tanking we won't see this kind of really open ended slow moving game attempted again for the foreseeable...instead just more fifa this, tomb raider that...where as witcher & hitman are superb & different.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,627
    Scott_P said:

    Sandpit said:

    Lay England in any way you can!!! They're always too short with UK bookies due to the weight of patriotic money.

    How to bet on football

    https://www.1843magazine.com/features/the-daily/how-i-used-maths-to-beat-the-bookies
    That's a good article. Thanks.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180

    felix said:

    Sean_F said:

    felix said:

    George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

    In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

    Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

    The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

    It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

    http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

    Smear smear smear

    Osborne is an odious toad. No political grave can be dug that will be too deep for him.
    Truth hurts - you want Nige for a playmate for your dreams you should not be surprised,
    Whatever Farage's faults, Osborne is even more horrible.

    It's like being on the receiving end of criticism from Peter Sutcliffe.
    Lol -it's that level of sheer personal ott nastiness that is the mark of a true kipper. I'm sure you're entirely sane on other topics.
    Osborne is a secret kipper?

    Well, it's a view.
    Concentrate dearie. That brexitis you got is doing real damage.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,563
    felix said:

    Louise Mensch seems to have spent the whole day retweeting all of Wollaston's twitter timeline.

    She is that highly principled girl who gave up her marginal seat early on in the last govt and gifted the by-election to Labour.
    That was to be able to "spend more time with twitter" right?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,432
    @PickardJE: What's that you say? An Outer Labour MP switching to Remain? Tomorrow? HOLD THE FRONT PAGE....

    ....but I can't guarantee that you will have heard of this person....

    Or maybe the Labour MP defector is going from In to Out tomorrow. This can be so very confusing...
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180

    felix said:

    felix said:

    George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

    In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

    Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

    The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

    It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

    http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

    Smear smear smear

    Osborne is an odious toad. No political grave can be dug that will be too deep for him.
    Truth hurts - you want Nige for a playmate for your dreams you should not be surprised,
    Actually, I'd rather hang out with you.

    You sound like a real laugh.
    Hang on m8 - this is supposed to be PB not Grindr :)
    U shld be so lucky.
    I generally have been so far.
  • I see the John and Tony show went down well

    DUP MP Nigel Dodds

    “Surely this is the most irresponsible talk that can be perpetuated in terms of Northern Ireland – very dangerous, destabilising and it should not be happening,”

    Nigel is a Brexiteer. He and the DUP will not like it as it will strengthen the remain vote in the audience they were speaking to.

    It does look as if there is now a full frontal co-ordinated attack on leave, which is going to be coming from many directions, not just blue on blue. Nicola Sturgeon and Angela Eagle v Boris tonight, Corbyn' TV debate to young people on the 20th, and Khan v Boris towards the end of the campaign. Many on here last night dismissed Sarah Wollaston as a non story and I did warn that it would be huge today on the broadcast media. It has and in spades but what on earth has possessed leave to accuse her of not wanting to put more money in the NHS. She is chair of the Health Select Committee and that comment is an avoidable own goal and has been called out by the Sky reporter
    ??????????

    That's plain nuts.

    The DUP are the largest party and their people turn out to vote. The nationalists don't like british PMs telling them what to do. can't see that helping Remain

    The analysis in Ulster was they came over to NI because they couldn't go to Scotland or fear of upsetting the locals. I suspect they'll piss a lot of the NI locals off.
    The reports are that they were speaking to the substantial remain vote and the obvious fears over the shared border
    Im sure they were, but that they felt they needed to go there and say things the unionists would find imflammatory and the nationalists patronising shows how worried Remain are.

    I reckon their private polling and canvas returns must be dire.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    He has been offered a job by No 10

    @KateEMcCann: NEW: Khalid Mahmood, Brexit backing Labour MP, defecting to remain amid concerns abt tone on "immigration and race" https://t.co/bdcE38UEtS

    Oh, wait...
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180

    felix said:

    Louise Mensch seems to have spent the whole day retweeting all of Wollaston's twitter timeline.

    She is that highly principled girl who gave up her marginal seat early on in the last govt and gifted the by-election to Labour.
    That was to be able to "spend more time with twitter" right?
    Yup - and don't we know it. :)
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    Sean_F said:

    felix said:

    Sean_F said:

    felix said:

    George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

    In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

    Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

    The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

    It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

    http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

    Smear smear smear

    Osborne is an odious toad. No political grave can be dug that will be too deep for him.
    Truth hurts - you want Nige for a playmate for your dreams you should not be surprised,
    Whatever Farage's faults, Osborne is even more horrible.

    It's like being on the receiving end of criticism from Peter Sutcliffe.
    Lol -it's that level of sheer personal ott nastiness that is the mark of a true kipper. I'm sure you're entirely sane on other topics.
    I thought I was being quite restrained.
    :)
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,080
    Mr. Urquhart, depends if they attribute low sales to the weird distribution method or not, as that seems to be the issue.

    There'll be another Witcher game (perhaps without Geralt), I think. It's got rave reviews and sold, I think, very well indeed. And rightly so, it's a staggeringly good game.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    Scott_P said:

    He has been offered a job by No 10

    @KateEMcCann: NEW: Khalid Mahmood, Brexit backing Labour MP, defecting to remain amid concerns abt tone on "immigration and race" https://t.co/bdcE38UEtS

    Oh, wait...

    Lol - send him home!
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @KateEMcCann: Mahmood said he was offended by "racist" Leave announcements on Turkey and "disappointed" by Boris comments on Obama https://t.co/bdcE38UEtS
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,432
    Scott_P said:

    He has been offered a job by No 10

    @KateEMcCann: NEW: Khalid Mahmood, Brexit backing Labour MP, defecting to remain amid concerns abt tone on "immigration and race" https://t.co/bdcE38UEtS

    Oh, wait...

    Another fine principled, patriotic lion.

    I can't imagine why a non white Leavers have been put off by Leave's tone
  • Sean_F said:

    felix said:

    George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

    In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

    Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

    The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

    It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

    http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

    Smear smear smear

    Osborne is an odious toad. No political grave can be dug that will be too deep for him.
    Truth hurts - you want Nige for a playmate for your dreams you should not be surprised,
    Whatever Farage's faults, Osborne is even more horrible.

    It's like being on the receiving end of criticism from Peter Sutcliffe.
    He makes John Redwood seem human
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,152

    AnneJGP said:

    Scott_P said:

    Balckburn's 14/1 looking perilous...

    @sarahwollaston: To be clear, 1.I have not asked for or been offered any Govt post 2.I have not deleted any of my EU tweets 3. I am not auditioning for 007

    Except we can no longer trust a word she says.
    I am sure Dr Wollaston has been acting from the highest principles throughout, but it does seem to follow that she's been remarkably blinkered to the scope of the issue we're about to vote on. Still is, in fact. Her judgment up to yesterday was that it would be in the best interests of the UK to leave the EU; and now it's all about the NHS alone.

    I find it very puzzling.

    (edited to add: good afternoon, everyone)
    It is not just the NHS alone, she is expressing concern on the economic impact and is also unhappy at the way leave are dealing with the immigration issue.
    I can understand anyone (even an MP!) changing her mind, being swayed by arguments, etc. What I find hard to understand is anyone at all joining a campaign on either side without having listened to the arguments, thought through the issues and arriving at a settled view.

    Perhaps Dr Wollaston has been too focussed on the NHS to give thought to the wider issues until this week.

    Later on, she may find herself unhappy at the way Remain are dealing one or more of their primary issues.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,563
    That's it: Sir Tim Berners-Lee, inventor - the world wide web, has come out for Remain.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Scott_P said:

    He has been offered a job by No 10

    @KateEMcCann: NEW: Khalid Mahmood, Brexit backing Labour MP, defecting to remain amid concerns abt tone on "immigration and race" https://t.co/bdcE38UEtS

    Oh, wait...

    This guy ? He's a real asset.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1186818/Labour-MP-spent-2-575-staying-riot-gold-marble-silk-hotel-girlfriend.html

    "Labour MP spent £2,575 staying in 'riot of gold, marble and silk' hotel with girlfriend


  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    Scott_P said:

    @KateEMcCann: Mahmood said he was offended by "racist" Leave announcements on Turkey and "disappointed" by Boris comments on Obama https://t.co/bdcE38UEtS

    Oh dear - it's gonna be a rough night on here CCCOOONNSSSPPPIIIRRRAAACCCYYYYYYYY!!
  • FensterFenster Posts: 2,115

    Louise Mensch seems to have spent the whole day retweeting all of Wollaston's twitter timeline.

    I'm for Brexit but Mensch is a dick; let's be honest.

    If my wife spent twenty minutes in a pub with her she'd end up flooring her.
  • Am I bad man for laughing at this?

    A bird has earned the nickname Gullfrazie after turning bright orange when he plunged into a vat of chicken tikka masala.

    The seagull fell into a container of curry while trying to scavenge meat from a food factory bin on Monday.

    http://www.itv.com/news/2016-06-09/seagull-turns-bright-orange-after-falling-in-a-vat-of-chicken-tikka-masala/

    Its the libdems new mascot
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,261
    felix said:

    felix said:

    Sean_F said:

    felix said:

    George Osborne has attacked Nigel Farage for using “pretty disgusting” rhetoric about the threat of migrants sexually attacking women and refugee bodies washing up on British beaches.

    In a marked escalation of attacks on the Ukip leader and by extension the entire leave campaign, the chancellor singled out Farage for representing a “mean-spirited, narrow and divisive” vision of Britain. He said that “tendency” was now coming to dominate the anti-EU campaign.

    Speaking to reporters on a campaign visit to a Scottish sheep and beef farm with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson, Osborne said:

    The Nigel Farage tendency is taking over their argument and you’re increasingly getting this Farage vision of Britain, with all this talk of bodies washing up the sea shores and women being at risk of sexual assault from migrants.

    It is pretty disgusting. And we want to say no to it. We want to say that is not the country we are. We’re a country that is big and bold and strong, and united, and we want to say no to this mean-spirited, divisive, negative view of Britain that you get from Nigel Farage and company.

    http://tinyurl.com/IAgreeWithGeorge

    Smear smear smear

    Osborne is an odious toad. No political grave can be dug that will be too deep for him.
    Truth hurts - you want Nige for a playmate for your dreams you should not be surprised,
    Whatever Farage's faults, Osborne is even more horrible.

    It's like being on the receiving end of criticism from Peter Sutcliffe.
    Lol -it's that level of sheer personal ott nastiness that is the mark of a true kipper. I'm sure you're entirely sane on other topics.
    Osborne is a secret kipper?

    Well, it's a view.
    Concentrate dearie. That brexitis you got is doing real damage.
    I really don't want to concentrate on George Osborne.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,150

    I see the John and Tony show went down well

    DUP MP Nigel Dodds

    “Surely this is the most irresponsible talk that can be perpetuated in terms of Northern Ireland – very dangerous, destabilising and it should not be happening,”

    Nigel is a Brexiteer. He and the DUP will not like it as it will strengthen the remain vote in the audience they were speaking to.

    It does look as if there is now a full frontal co-ordinated attack on leave, which is going to be coming from many directions, not just blue on blue. Nicola Sturgeon and Angela Eagle v Boris tonight, Corbyn' TV debate to young people on the 20th, and Khan v Boris towards the end of the campaign. Many on here last night dismissed Sarah Wollaston as a non story and I did warn that it would be huge today on the broadcast media. It has and in spades but what on earth has possessed leave to accuse her of not wanting to put more money in the NHS. She is chair of the Health Select Committee and that comment is an avoidable own goal and has been called out by the Sky reporter
    ??????????

    That's plain nuts.

    The DUP are the largest party and their people turn out to vote. The nationalists don't like british PMs telling them what to do. can't see that helping Remain

    The analysis in Ulster was they came over to NI because they couldn't go to Scotland or fear of upsetting the locals. I suspect they'll piss a lot of the NI locals off.
    The reports are that they were speaking to the substantial remain vote and the obvious fears over the shared border
    Im sure they were, but that they felt they needed to go there and say things the unionists would find imflammatory and the nationalists patronising shows how worried Remain are.

    I reckon their private polling and canvas returns must be dire.
    I think the last 48 hours will have seen a change and the Wollaston story together with a labour Brexiteer defecting to remain over the immigration issues with leave, will change the narrative. It may take a while to show in the polls but the momentum may be shifting
  • LadyBucketLadyBucket Posts: 590
    VoteLeave must be absolutely incandescent with rage at Nigel Farage. They had a good week last week, with immigration and a "points based" system and one inappropriate comment from Farage has completely changed the debate.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,432
    felix said:

    Scott_P said:

    @KateEMcCann: Mahmood said he was offended by "racist" Leave announcements on Turkey and "disappointed" by Boris comments on Obama https://t.co/bdcE38UEtS

    Oh dear - it's gonna be a rough night on here CCCOOONNSSSPPPIIIRRRAAACCCYYYYYYYY!!
    Remain are going to win this referendum by 80% to Leave's 20%

    Remain are so professional with their campaign and sleeper agents.

    With MI7 on their side, Dave can put his feet up for the next fortnight.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 29,265
    edited June 2016
    TGOHF said:

    Scott_P said:

    He has been offered a job by No 10

    @KateEMcCann: NEW: Khalid Mahmood, Brexit backing Labour MP, defecting to remain amid concerns abt tone on "immigration and race" https://t.co/bdcE38UEtS

    Oh, wait...

    This guy ? He's a real asset.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1186818/Labour-MP-spent-2-575-staying-riot-gold-marble-silk-hotel-girlfriend.html

    "Labour MP spent £2,575 staying in 'riot of gold, marble and silk' hotel with girlfriend


    Hahahaha - what did I say this morning?

    Hell, what did I say at the very beginning of this campaign? I predicted the racism smears then. Same as UKIP in the GE. My only surprise is it's taken them this long.

  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,627
    felix said:

    Louise Mensch seems to have spent the whole day retweeting all of Wollaston's twitter timeline.

    She is that highly principled girl who gave up her marginal seat early on in the last govt and gifted the by-election to Labour.
    Don't go there, I didn't bloody knock on doors for her so she could run off after a couple of years. Grr.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,170

    VoteLeave must be absolutely incandescent with rage at Nigel Farage. They had a good week last week, with immigration and a "points based" system and one inappropriate comment from Farage has completely changed the debate.

    What did he say?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    RobD said:

    What did he say?

    Women could be at risk of mass sex attacks carried out by gangs of migrant men if Britain stays in the EU, Nigel Farage has warned.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,170

    felix said:

    Scott_P said:

    @KateEMcCann: Mahmood said he was offended by "racist" Leave announcements on Turkey and "disappointed" by Boris comments on Obama https://t.co/bdcE38UEtS

    Oh dear - it's gonna be a rough night on here CCCOOONNSSSPPPIIIRRRAAACCCYYYYYYYY!!
    Remain are going to win this referendum by 80% to Leave's 20%

    Remain are so professional with their campaign and sleeper agents.

    With MI7 on their side, Dave can put his feet up for the next fortnight.
    As a fellow PB Tory, I take it you've seen the arranged vote tallies? Bet accordingly :)
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,150
    AnneJGP said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Scott_P said:

    Balckburn's 14/1 looking perilous...

    @sarahwollaston: To be clear, 1.I have not asked for or been offered any Govt post 2.I have not deleted any of my EU tweets 3. I am not auditioning for 007

    Except we can no longer trust a word she says.
    I am sure Dr Wollaston has been acting from the highest principles throughout, but it does seem to follow that she's been remarkably blinkered to the scope of the issue we're about to vote on. Still is, in fact. Her judgment up to yesterday was that it would be in the best interests of the UK to leave the EU; and now it's all about the NHS alone.

    I find it very puzzling.

    (edited to add: good afternoon, everyone)
    It is not just the NHS alone, she is expressing concern on the economic impact and is also unhappy at the way leave are dealing with the immigration issue.
    I can understand anyone (even an MP!) changing her mind, being swayed by arguments, etc. What I find hard to understand is anyone at all joining a campaign on either side without having listened to the arguments, thought through the issues and arriving at a settled view.

    Perhaps Dr Wollaston has been too focussed on the NHS to give thought to the wider issues until this week.

    Later on, she may find herself unhappy at the way Remain are dealing one or more of their primary issues.
    Listening to her quiet and reasoned arguments today she is firmly a remainer and carries creditability not only as chair of Health Select Committee but as a GP. Also the newly announced defection of a labour Brexiteer to remain over race concerns with leave is not a good picture for their campaign
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,170
    Scott_P said:
    It is fair and correct to say we have little say on how that money received from the EU is spent.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 29,265
    Scott_P said:

    RobD said:

    What did he say?

    Women could be at risk of mass sex attacks carried out by gangs of migrant men if Britain stays in the EU, Nigel Farage has warned.
    Direct quote only please, ta.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,451

    VoteLeave must be absolutely incandescent with rage at Nigel Farage. They had a good week last week, with immigration and a "points based" system and one inappropriate comment from Farage has completely changed the debate.

    I missed this. What did he say?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,170
    Scott_P said:

    RobD said:

    What did he say?

    Women could be at risk of mass sex attacks carried out by gangs of migrant men if Britain stays in the EU, Nigel Farage has warned.
    Unsavoury as it may be, is that true or not, especially given events in Germany?
  • PAWPAW Posts: 1,074
    Scott_P - but you are counting the money coming from the EU as actually useful - why would you want money spent on set aside for example? Or building a 2nd Forth road bridge?
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    edited June 2016

    TGOHF said:

    Scott_P said:

    He has been offered a job by No 10

    @KateEMcCann: NEW: Khalid Mahmood, Brexit backing Labour MP, defecting to remain amid concerns abt tone on "immigration and race" https://t.co/bdcE38UEtS

    Oh, wait...

    This guy ? He's a real asset.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1186818/Labour-MP-spent-2-575-staying-riot-gold-marble-silk-hotel-girlfriend.html

    "Labour MP spent £2,575 staying in 'riot of gold, marble and silk' hotel with girlfriend


    Hahahaha - what did I say this morning?

    Hell, what did I say at the very beginning of this campaign? I predicted the racism smears then. Same as UKIP in the GE. My only surprise is it's taken them this long.

    I thought we were xenophobes, not racists. Is it one of those or both? I suppose xenophobic racists has a certain cachet, though I'm sure racist xenophobes will have its adherents.

    Remain. So ugly. One day they might start selling the EU to us, though I shan't hold my breath.

    Edit: Oops, I forgot, 'parochial racist xenophobes'. How silly of me.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554

    Mr. Urquhart, depends if they attribute low sales to the weird distribution method or not, as that seems to be the issue.

    There'll be another Witcher game (perhaps without Geralt), I think. It's got rave reviews and sold, I think, very well indeed. And rightly so, it's a staggeringly good game.

    I quite like the episodic idea & the fact they produce new missions for existing maps. It is like an interactive TV show. It seems like a really interesting model of game where you have constantly evolving tasks within the computer generated world.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 29,265

    VoteLeave must be absolutely incandescent with rage at Nigel Farage. They had a good week last week, with immigration and a "points based" system and one inappropriate comment from Farage has completely changed the debate.

    Utter rubbish. Vote Leave and their utterly sh*t campaign (sorry Plato, but it is) have only themselves to blame. It was utterly stupid to imagine that they could sweep Nigel under the carpet, and that the other kids would play nice with them if they did. Instead, they should have done everything in their power to integrate him into their campaign, so everyone could at least have attempted to sing from the same hymn sheet. They were always going to lump him in with the Leave campaign regardless of official status.
  • RobD said:

    Scott_P said:

    RobD said:

    What did he say?

    Women could be at risk of mass sex attacks carried out by gangs of migrant men if Britain stays in the EU, Nigel Farage has warned.
    Unsavoury as it may be, is that true or not, especially given events in Germany?
    The danger of remain doing this is that it raises the profile of this issue
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Don't forget that if you vote to "remain" then you'll be responsible for the complete and total destruction of the green belt as a hundred million immigrants flock here within the next 20 years - whereas if you "leave" then the total and complete collapse of the economy is coming which will make Mugabe's Zimbabwe look like a model state.
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    I really wish those fucking idiots at Vote Leave adopted the Norway Model instead of this current shambles where their British Model or whatever it is can be constantly attacked. O well, I'll be up about 5k should Remain win so not the end of the world.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,428
    JonathanD said:

    I see the John and Tony show went down well

    DUP MP Nigel Dodds

    “Surely this is the most irresponsible talk that can be perpetuated in terms of Northern Ireland – very dangerous, destabilising and it should not be happening,”

    Nigel is a Brexiteer. He and the DUP will not like it as it will strengthen the remain vote in the audience they were speaking to.

    It does look as if there is now a full frontal co-ordinated attack on leave, which is going to be coming from many directions, not just blue on blue. Nicola Sturgeon and Angela Eagle v Boris tonight, Corbyn' TV debate to young people on the 20th, and Khan v Boris towards the end of the campaign. Many on here last night dismissed Sarah Wollaston as a non story and I did warn that it would be huge today on the broadcast media. It has and in spades but what on earth has possessed leave to accuse her of not wanting to put more money in the NHS. She is chair of the Health Select Committee and that comment is an avoidable own goal and has been called out by the Sky reporter

    The analysis in Ulster was they came over to NI because they couldn't go to Scotland or fear of upsetting the locals.
    Osborne is in Scotland today, so I don't think there is any fear of upsetting the Scots.

    Only Boris is upset apparently. Osborne and Davidson turned up at the farm to find he had withdrawn, because of a broken penis.
This discussion has been closed.