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  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    edited May 2016

    One of the reasons Trump is hard to figure out is his largesse that goes largely unreported. A couple of examples:

    his limo broke down while he was on a lonely road in a western state a few years ago. A couple driving by stopped to offer to help. Much to their surprise a few months later their mortgage was paid off without explanation. It took them a while to find out it was Trump.

    A US soldier was detained in Mexico, suffering from PTSD, and only freed after months of campaigning largely by Fox News' Greta van Susteren. When he was freed Trump called Greta (they've been friends for years) to find out his location and sent him a large check to help him restart his life.

    Then there's this - civic responsibility and charity, though hardly unreported..

    http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/features/2015-09-29/a-1980s-new-york-city-battle-explains-donald-trump-s-candidacy

    This sort of thing is what he does, usually on the quiet, without taking the charitable deduction.

    I'm not a Trump booster by any means, but the lack of knowledge about the man on this site is disappointing.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,550
    edited May 2016
    Tim_B said:

    One of the reasons Trump is hard to figure out is his largesse that goes largely unreported. A couple of examples:

    his limo broke down while he was on a lonely road in a western state a few years ago. A couple driving by stopped to offer to help. Much to their surprise a few months later their mortgage was paid off without explanation. It took them a while to find out it was Trump.

    A US soldier was detained in Mexico, suffering from PTSD, and only freed after months of campaigning largely by Fox News' Greta van Susteren. When he was freed Trump called Greta (they've been friends for years) to find out his location and sent him a large check to help him restart his life.

    Then there's this - civic responsibility and charity, though hardly unreported..

    http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/features/2015-09-29/a-1980s-new-york-city-battle-explains-donald-trump-s-candidacy

    This sort of thing is what he does, usually on the quiet, without taking the charitable deduction.

    I'm not a Trump booster by any means, but the lack of knowledge about the man on this site is disappointing.
    All well and good but we are talking specifically about a document he released himself where the claims don't stand up. It is that simple. $100 million claimed, reality $4-5 million.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,364

    PB has been run solely on Chromebooks for more than 4 years and I've just spent part of my Sadiq Khan winnings on one of the fastest available a Dell 13 with super fast processor and 8gb of RAM.

    Only hassle on printing is that you have to have a compatible Google cloud print machine. Once that's set up then you can print with any number of Chromebooks without any extra hassle.

    They start up in 6 seconds, you don't need an anti-virus software and the range of Google office apps is constantly updated and is free. Only hassle is that you always need an internet connection which with widespread 4G is almost always possible by using your phone as a hotspot.

    I will never go back to a Windows.
    PB is running on a laptop? Explains everything! Hamster and wheel comes to mind :p
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    Mitt Romney thinks Trump is making excuses on tax returns:

    https://facebook.com/mittromney/posts/10153487016861121

    Ask an attorney - no attorney would recommend releasing a return under audit.
  • Tim_B said:

    Ask an attorney - no attorney would recommend releasing a return under audit.
    Then he can release previous years, but he's not doing that either.

    It's not like he doesn't have form for this sort of thing. After he was mocked for the failure of Trump steaks, he claimed they were still going. He even got steaks bought in and had Trump steaks labels stuck on them, but forgot to take the old labels off!

    http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/03/09/qvc-trump-peddles-steaks-with-bush-brothers-label-you-cant-make-this-stuff-up-314816
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,364

    Then he can release previous years, but he's not doing that either.

    It's not like he doesn't have form for this sort of thing. After he was mocked for the failure of Trump steaks, he claimed they were still going. He even got steaks bought in and had Trump steaks labels stuck on them, but forgot to take the old labels off!

    http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/03/09/qvc-trump-peddles-steaks-with-bush-brothers-label-you-cant-make-this-stuff-up-314816
    Clinton nailed on now, surely!
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Trump's POTUS betting volume overtakes Clinton's on BF...

    £4.0m v £3.8m
  • Pulpstar said:

    Yes but this failure is worse, the data wasn't really pointing to a Tory majority - only a few (Matt Singh, @Tissue_Price) spotted it prior to the event... and it was quite hidden.

    Donald Trump had a big New Hampshire lead - one of the best indicators to GOP nominee in recent times.

    Trump GOP nominee is alot clearer than Con Majority was.
    Must've been, cos even Yours Truly was on it!
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    RobD said:

    Clinton nailed on now, surely!
    It's rather odd that Trump is insisting his VP prospects release their tax returns to the campaign (which will apparently not be made public), while Trump is not releasing his.

    It is normal for candidates to release their tax returns during the campaign, although there is no legal requirement to do so. I am only aware of 2 or 3 candidates who released little or no tax information during their campaign, a couple of whom were Reagan and Bill Clinton.

    To me it's not a big deal one way or the other. I have no interest in the contents of Hillary's return either. In the bigger scheme of things, it's irrelevant.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,520
    Cookie said:

    The other mystery is that she apparently said all this on local radio - it wasn't a simple matter of private thoughts inadvertently becoming public a la Gordon Brown. Presumably she thinks that there are more votes to be gained than lost by sneering at provincial attitudes.
    I think that there is intense dislike for provincial attitudes among the leadership of both the Conservatives and Labour, but they're usually sensible enough to conceal the fact.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Now apparently Egyptair is saying they have NOT found wreckage from the Paris flight yet. This is CNN only so far, so treat it with care.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,550
    Tim_B said:

    Now apparently Egyptair is saying they have NOT found wreckage from the Paris flight yet. This is CNN only so far, so treat it with care.

    Been reported on BBC as well based on Greek official.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    HYUFD said:

    Well you obviously have to be above average to get to be president but if you look at recent candidates none have exactly had truly outstanding careers before. Obama was a community organiser and lecturer, Dubya ran a baseball team (a post his father gave him), Kerry was a pretty average DA in Boston, Gore was a middle ranking journalist, Clinton was essentially a professional politician from a young age apart from a brief spell with an Arkansas law firm between governorships (Hillary got better grades than Bill at Yale and had a more distinguished legal career) etc. Romney is perhaps an exception but even he is not in Trump's league, he never made the billionaires' club!
    Trump's financial status is subject to change. I note a golf club that he disclosed was worth $50million in campaign fillings he is now claim is worth only $1.4 million in court proceedings to reduce his tax bill.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    edited May 2016

    What were your impressions of the Patel event?
    You will not be surprised that I was unconvinced.

    There were about 100 there, and the usual arguments aired and the usual dodgy figures too. The discussions on here are more erudite and informed.

    Priti worked the crowd well, but not much charisma, I could not see any real star quality.

    The meeting was in the HQ of the masons in Leics...
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @ComResPolls: New @DailyMailUK/@ITVNews #EURef poll:

    Remain 52% (-1)
    Leave 41% (+3)

    Turnout weighted https://t.co/wjf4rvSNck https://t.co/OwoRCu10I3
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022

    I think paxman thinks it is trademark to be rude thus he must do it in any show he is on. It.is like frankie Boyle not doing any offensive jokes.
    Frankie Boyle was good on HIGNFY last week.

    Given that @foxinsoxuk and @Richard_Tyndall both rate Paxman's program, that's probably worth watching too.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,364
    So, is it a 14 or 11 point lead?
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Tim_B said:


    His taxes are audited every year (which is normal for super rich people here) and NO attorney would allow their client to release their return while under audit.
    .

    If Nixon could release his tax returns while being audited I'm sure Trump can pony up.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,394
    Scott_P said:

    @ComResPolls: New @DailyMailUK/@ITVNews #EURef poll:

    Remain 52% (-1)
    Leave 41% (+3)

    Turnout weighted https://t.co/wjf4rvSNck https://t.co/OwoRCu10I3

    Interesting. Implies 56%/44% Remain result.

    What's also interesting is that controls over laws, here, is of interest to 47% of voters here compared to Ipsos-Mori's 15%.

    (although I don't know how they asked the question)
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,688
    RobD said:

    So, is it a 14 or 11 point lead?

    Both I think, is headline and turnout adjusted
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    RobD said:

    So, is it a 14 or 11 point lead?

    https://twitter.com/johnrentoul/status/733402808666497024
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,394

    Annoying. That vindicates all their bullshit.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,255
    RobD said:

    So, is it a 14 or 11 point lead?

    Slightly confused. Either the gap has not changed or it has closed by 4% which would be good news.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,688

    NEW THREAD NEW THREAD

  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,394
    Leave simply have to start telling a good story on the economy, or this is all over bar the singing.
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    Re Chromebooks, They are a great bit of kit. I bought Herself one by Toshiba for Christmas three years ago and I think it was the best present I ever bought her. Hastle free computing, providing all you want is basic internet sort of stuff and basic office functionality.

    No good for serious computing though. You can't play Skyrim on it for a start and it certainly won't cope with a three monitor, multiple controls, set up that I find essential for my flight sims.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    So that means lead falls from 16 to 14?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    IT'S NOT THE ECONOMY. STUPID.

    @chrisshipitv: NEW: @ComResPolls for @itvnews finds economy now most import issue in #euref. 38% in Feb. Now 55% say it's 1 of 3 most important factors

    Oh, wait...
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    So by next month it'll be 12 point lead which is close to my 58-42 prediction.
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