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Eagles = Roy Hodgson
Tykejohnno = Bill Shankly0 -
WW2 was won and lost on the Steppes and the slopes of Mt.Elbrus. The same argument can be made quite plausibly with Napoleon's retreat from Moscow leading to the 1813 campaign.TheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.0 -
Richard_Nabavi said:
No, it's cumbersome because it's cumbersome, involving a disparate group of countries each with their own agendas and domestic political issues, as well the EU bureaucracy and the European Parliament. It's not even quite clear whether it would require unanimity amongst the other 27 EU governments, but it might. At the very least it will require a QMV majority. So whilst the main participants might indeed want to come to a deal quickly, that's not enough to ensure that they'll be able to.runnymede said:It's only cumbersome if people want it to be - Peter's point is precisely that they wouldn't.
"No, it's cumbersome because it's cumbersome, involving a disparate group of countries each with their own agendas and domestic political issues, as well the EU bureaucracy and the European Parliament."
And you want to remain part of this organisation?
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Lol,thanks Mr Brookes,god knows what Winston would think of his grandson today ;-)Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill0 -
Should have pulled out earlyTykejohnno said:
Lol,thanks Mr Brookes,god knows what Winston would think of his grandson today ;-)Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
Like the UK0 -
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.0 -
On balance, yes. Bear in mind that the alternative is that we open bilateral negotiations not only with the same cumbersome organisation, but also with many dozens of other states. I'm just being realistic.MarkHopkins said:"No, it's cumbersome because it's cumbersome, involving a disparate group of countries each with their own agendas and domestic political issues, as well the EU bureaucracy and the European Parliament."
And you want to remain part of this organisation?0 -
Those Russians know how to fight, if there's any trouble we need to be on their side.Innocent_Abroad said:
In both cases, the Russians did the hard yards.TheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.0 -
You are just repeating yourself now. Nothing in life is certain, but Peter is I am sure right that there will be a lot of pressure for a quick deal to be done, and on what may be surprisingly favourable terms. Another reason for this is the still very fragile nature of the Eurozone economic recovery.Richard_Nabavi said:
No, it's cumbersome because it's cumbersome, involving a disparate group of countries each with their own agendas and domestic political issues, as well the EU bureaucracy and the European Parliament. It's not even quite clear whether it would require unanimity amongst the other 27 EU governments, but it might. At the very least it will require a QMV majority. So whilst the main participants might indeed want to come to a deal quickly, that's not enough to ensure that they'll be able to.runnymede said:It's only cumbersome if people want it to be - Peter's point is precisely that they wouldn't.
And (if I may repeat myself) his criticisms of the economics of the Treasury report are very good ones. It is being slowly revealed as the shoddy piece of propaganda it is.0 -
stop digging, Richard.Richard_Tyndall said:
Sorry Topping but these strange misquotes really don't fool anyone. All they show is that your actual grasp of the subject matter is so flaky and shallow that you have to rely upon deflection rather than dealing with the issues. Of course the problem is that you write opinion as fact whereas I make a point of distinguishing between the two.TOPPING said:
Don't panic Richard, we all let our guards down and allow the truth to slip out de temps en temps. You have acknowledged that all the stuff and nonsense you have been banging on about is your "personal view". I, personally, welcome that admission.
So please do continue with your asides. At least they save us from your fantasy ideas about how the EEA or EFTA work which bear no resemblance to reality at all.0 -
LolAlanbrooke said:
Should have pulled out earlyTykejohnno said:
Lol,thanks Mr Brookes,god knows what Winston would think of his grandson today ;-)Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
Like the UK
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I have no head for such matters.blackburn63 said:
I don't find it offensive and have no idea why would suggest I do.JackW said:
If you find PB so offensive it's a wonder you trouble OGH and TSE with your presence.blackburn63 said:
By writing thread headers about blow jobsTheScreamingEagles said:
I've got a thread coming up on that topic, and the gender splits.Pulpstar said:
I did some analysis on one of the "issues" poll to test Mr Meek's hypothesis that the EU and immigration are seen as seperate issues.TheScreamingEagles said:
That was kinda my point, you can really add things together from that poll with 100% certainty.Pulpstar said:
You can't just add them (Economy or immigration related ones), the intersects need to be subtracted as well - else you're assuming zero correlation between the issues.TheScreamingEagles said:
You can also the economy is divided into three different categories, adding up to 55%MarkHopkins said:taffys said:
It seems to me that the 'immigration' issues have been divided up into about four questions of different sorts in that survey.Scott_P said:
Added together, they are more than the economy...
They are not different options as it is unprompted. The issue is how they choose to collate them afterwards.
Adding "most important issue" is a quick workaround.
Impact on economy + Impact on British jobs + ability to trade = 25
Immigrants into Britain + Cost on welfare system + refugees + housing = 24
I came to the conclusion that voters concerned about hospitals tend to be concerned about schools too.
If Leave want to win, they need to reassure women
Do you tweet about blow jobs? If not why not?0 -
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Connecticut: Trump 48, not Trump 47
Getting a n outright majority would boost Trump's return here considerably.
One to watch.
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Corbyn is only for a few years. The EU is for much longer.david_herdson said:
Depends on how you view it. If you see the EU as a massive issue, more important than the odd GE, then the referendum is the priority. On the other hand, if you see EU membership as important but not worth handing the country to Corbyn over, then being in a position to win in 2020 matters more. The EU is just one policy. A different government could change everything.0 -
I did consider it, but then I thought Halifax had more of a spine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.0 -
Any reason for the Philby avatar?TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.
Just sayin'...0 -
Typical behaviour from a Brooke, thinks he knows better than the Tory PM.Alanbrooke said:
I did consider it, but then I thought Halifax had more of a spine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.0 -
Just highlighting your modus operandi and the facile nature of your arguments. Now since Vote Leave appears to have opted against the EEA route it is probably moot but if you want we can reopen your strange views on how EFTA works and I can show everyone how ignorant you are yet again.TOPPING said:
stop digging, Richard.Richard_Tyndall said:
Sorry Topping but these strange misquotes really don't fool anyone. All they show is that your actual grasp of the subject matter is so flaky and shallow that you have to rely upon deflection rather than dealing with the issues. Of course the problem is that you write opinion as fact whereas I make a point of distinguishing between the two.TOPPING said:
Don't panic Richard, we all let our guards down and allow the truth to slip out de temps en temps. You have acknowledged that all the stuff and nonsense you have been banging on about is your "personal view". I, personally, welcome that admission.
So please do continue with your asides. At least they save us from your fantasy ideas about how the EEA or EFTA work which bear no resemblance to reality at all.0 -
PS looking at WW2 leaders I can't actually think of one who wasn't a pissed up racist, bar Adolf he was a sober one.Alanbrooke said:
I did consider it, but then I thought Halifax had more of a spine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.0 -
That point I very much agree with. The potential effect of Brexit on the Eurozone is one of the major short-term risk factors for us, and one which I don't think has had enough attention.runnymede said:...Another reason for this is the still very fragile nature of the Eurozone economic recovery....
You want to be long in US dollar or Swiss franc denominated assets, I think.0 -
He was a top bloke, went to a good uni and got an OBESunil_Prasannan said:
Any reason for the Philby avatar?TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.
Just sayin'...0 -
I think this referendum is going to tell us quite a lot. In that sense it's quite interesting.Pulpstar said:
I'm not sure "Jobs" should be entirely within "Remain" to be honest. "Security" might also be partially "remain" though...Casino_Royale said:
That's quite revealing I think.chestnut said:The Issue Index - 10/10 to Vote - Most Important Issue
REMAIN - 34
Economy 20, Trade 4, Jobs 2, Workers Rights 2, Personal Impact 1, International Relations 1, Human Rights 1, Free Movement 1, Pro EU 1, Global Standing 1
LEAVE - 37
Immigrants 15, Sovereignty 8, Welfare Payouts 5, EU Fees 3, Security 2, Housing and Public Services 1, Refugees 1, EU Regulations 1, Anti EU 1
It's probably fair on balance.
It will tell us those who will always put their fears for the economy first, despite anything they might say about immigration or sovereignty otherwise, and how many don't care about the EU, or actually like it.
It will tell us who will actually go out and vote on regulations, laws, migration, and democracy.
It might also tell us what would be finally required to swing it, if Leave don't win.
Personally, I stick to a prima facie case that we'd immediately be better off exiting and the EU deliberately hitting the Uk and voters directly in their pockets, a Tory PM who is a Leaver, a pre-negotiated deal on the table and a recommendation to ratify it in a referendum for immediate implementation.
Which I suspect would be won 70%+. If Leave get to 10% or less with all their disadvantages this time, that's actually quite good,0 -
Um, OK... But wasn't he a first class TPD?TheScreamingEagles said:
He was a top bloke, went to a good uni and got an OBESunil_Prasannan said:
Any reason for the Philby avatar?TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.
Just sayin'...0 -
FDR and Harry Truman surely?Alanbrooke said:
PS looking at WW2 leaders I can't actually think of one who wasn't a pissed up racist, bar Adolf he was a sober one.Alanbrooke said:
I did consider it, but then I thought Halifax had more of a spine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.0 -
I can't see Japanese Americans agreeing with you.TheScreamingEagles said:
FDR and Harry Truman surely?Alanbrooke said:
PS looking at WW2 leaders I can't actually think of one who wasn't a pissed up racist, bar Adolf he was a sober one.Alanbrooke said:
I did consider it, but then I thought Halifax had more of a spine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.0 -
US armed forces were officially segregated until 1948.TheScreamingEagles said:
FDR and Harry Truman surely?Alanbrooke said:
PS looking at WW2 leaders I can't actually think of one who wasn't a pissed up racist, bar Adolf he was a sober one.Alanbrooke said:
I did consider it, but then I thought Halifax had more of a spine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.0 -
One of my friend's suggested that were I to back Remain, I should choose Philby, MacLean, Burgess or Cairncross as my avatar.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Um, OK... But wasn't he a first class TPD?TheScreamingEagles said:
He was a top bloke, went to a good uni and got an OBESunil_Prasannan said:
Any reason for the Philby avatar?TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.
Just sayin'...0 -
And if you had chosen LEAVE? Who would you have chosen?TheScreamingEagles said:
One of my friend's suggested that were I to back Remain, I should choose Philby, MacLean, Burgess or Cairncross as my avatar.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Um, OK... But wasn't he a first class TPD?TheScreamingEagles said:
He was a top bloke, went to a good uni and got an OBESunil_Prasannan said:
Any reason for the Philby avatar?TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.
Just sayin'...0 -
WTF !TheScreamingEagles said:
One of my friend's suggested that were I to back Remain, I should choose Philby, MacLean, Burgess or Cairncross as my avatar.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Um, OK... But wasn't he a first class TPD?TheScreamingEagles said:
He was a top bloke, went to a good uni and got an OBESunil_Prasannan said:
Any reason for the Philby avatar?TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.
Just sayin'...
they at least had a modicum of belief in this country.0 -
Very sad and shocking news about Victoria Wood. She used to make my wife cry with laughter. And me sometimes, too. Very talented, very funny. RIP.0
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And a vegetarian.Alanbrooke said:
PS looking at WW2 leaders I can't actually think of one who wasn't a pissed up racist, bar Adolf he was a sober one.Alanbrooke said:
I did consider it, but then I thought Halifax had more of a spine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.0 -
True, I've always rated both FDR and Truman as truly great Presidents.Alanbrooke said:
I can't see Japanese Americans agreeing with you.TheScreamingEagles said:
FDR and Harry Truman surely?Alanbrooke said:
PS looking at WW2 leaders I can't actually think of one who wasn't a pissed up racist, bar Adolf he was a sober one.Alanbrooke said:
I did consider it, but then I thought Halifax had more of a spine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.
FDR for being the most duplicitous bastard to be President, officially being neutral at the start of World War II, but doing everything he could to help the UK. Plus his Germany first policy was a key moment of WW2.
Truman for desegrating the army, having the balls to drop the bombs, and after leaving office, not accepting any offers as he thought it would demean the office of President.0 -
Not sure.Sunil_Prasannan said:
And if you had chosen LEAVE? Who would you have chosen?TheScreamingEagles said:
One of my friend's suggested that were I to back Remain, I should choose Philby, MacLean, Burgess or Cairncross as my avatar.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Um, OK... But wasn't he a first class TPD?TheScreamingEagles said:
He was a top bloke, went to a good uni and got an OBESunil_Prasannan said:
Any reason for the Philby avatar?TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.
Just sayin'...0 -
Let TSE tweet about blowjobs if he wants to - there's far worse on twitter. My issue is that it doesn't in any way shape of form constitute commentary, even bad commentary. Nor was it informative in any way. As such it was probably the lowest quality post I've seen whilst I've been viewing the site. I noticed that TSE didn't put his name on it, I presume because that would have made it look even more risible than it akready did.JackW said:
I have no head for such matters.blackburn63 said:
I don't find it offensive and have no idea why would suggest I do.JackW said:
If you find PB so offensive it's a wonder you trouble OGH and TSE with your presence.blackburn63 said:
By writing thread headers about blow jobsTheScreamingEagles said:
I've got a thread coming up on that topic, and the gender splits.Pulpstar said:
I did some analysis on one of the "issues" poll to test Mr Meek's hypothesis that the EU and immigration are seen as seperate issues.TheScreamingEagles said:
That was kinda my point, you can really add things together from that poll with 100% certainty.Pulpstar said:
You can't just add them (Economy or immigration related ones), the intersects need to be subtracted as well - else you're assuming zero correlation between the issues.TheScreamingEagles said:
You can also the economy is divided into three different categories, adding up to 55%MarkHopkins said:taffys said:
It seems to me that the 'immigration' issues have been divided up into about four questions of different sorts in that survey.Scott_P said:
Added together, they are more than the economy...
They are not different options as it is unprompted. The issue is how they choose to collate them afterwards.
Adding "most important issue" is a quick workaround.
Impact on economy + Impact on British jobs + ability to trade = 25
Immigrants into Britain + Cost on welfare system + refugees + housing = 24
I came to the conclusion that voters concerned about hospitals tend to be concerned about schools too.
If Leave want to win, they need to reassure women
Do you tweet about blow jobs? If not why not?0 -
I might be the only vegetarian LEAVER in the PB Village.OldKingCole said:
And a vegetarian.Alanbrooke said:
PS looking at WW2 leaders I can't actually think of one who wasn't a pissed up racist, bar Adolf he was a sober one.Alanbrooke said:
I did consider it, but then I thought Halifax had more of a spine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.0 -
I have belief in my country, The United States of Europe Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is the greatest country in the world.Alanbrooke said:
WTF !TheScreamingEagles said:
One of my friend's suggested that were I to back Remain, I should choose Philby, MacLean, Burgess or Cairncross as my avatar.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Um, OK... But wasn't he a first class TPD?TheScreamingEagles said:
He was a top bloke, went to a good uni and got an OBESunil_Prasannan said:
Any reason for the Philby avatar?TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.
Just sayin'...
they at least had a modicum of belief in this country.
I shall demand satisfaction from any man or woman who says otherwise.0 -
I think it just shows "greatness" requires a ruthless bastard streak and heroes aren't perfect.TheScreamingEagles said:
True, I've always rated both FDR and Truman as truly great Presidents.Alanbrooke said:
I can't see Japanese Americans agreeing with you.TheScreamingEagles said:
FDR and Harry Truman surely?Alanbrooke said:
PS looking at WW2 leaders I can't actually think of one who wasn't a pissed up racist, bar Adolf he was a sober one.Alanbrooke said:
I did consider it, but then I thought Halifax had more of a spine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.
FDR for being the most duplicitous bastard to be President, officially being neutral at the start of World War II, but doing everything he could to help the UK. Plus his Germany first policy was a key moment of WW2.
Truman for desegrating the army, having the balls to drop the bombs, and after leaving office, not accepting any offers as he thought it would demean the office of President.
which sort of puts name calling in perspective.0 -
Just demonstrates their strange ideas.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I might be the only vegetarian LEAVER in the PB Village.OldKingCole said:
And a vegetarian.Alanbrooke said:
PS looking at WW2 leaders I can't actually think of one who wasn't a pissed up racist, bar Adolf he was a sober one.Alanbrooke said:
I did consider it, but then I thought Halifax had more of a spine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.
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Mike wrote the thread, honestly, I don't talk about myself in the third person.Luckyguy1983 said:
Let TSE tweet about blowjobs if he wants to - there's far worse on twitter. My issue is that it doesn't in any way shape of form constitute commentary, even bad commentary. Nor was it informative in any way. As such it was probably the lowest quality post I've seen whilst I've been viewing the site. I noticed that TSE didn't put his name on it, I presume because that would have made it even more risible than it was.JackW said:
I have no head for such matters.blackburn63 said:
I don't find it offensive and have no idea why would suggest I do.JackW said:
If you find PB so offensive it's a wonder you trouble OGH and TSE with your presence.blackburn63 said:
By writing thread headers about blow jobsTheScreamingEagles said:
I've got a thread coming up on that topic, and the gender splits.Pulpstar said:
I did some analysis on one of the "issues" poll to test Mr Meek's hypothesis that the EU and immigration are seen as seperate issues.TheScreamingEagles said:
That was kinda my point, you can really add things together from that poll with 100% certainty.Pulpstar said:
You can't just add them (Economy or immigration related ones), the intersects need to be subtracted as well - else you're assuming zero correlation between the issues.TheScreamingEagles said:
You can also the economy is divided into three different categories, adding up to 55%MarkHopkins said:taffys said:
It seems to me that the 'immigration' issues have been divided up into about four questions of different sorts in that survey.Scott_P said:
Added together, they are more than the economy...
They are not different options as it is unprompted. The issue is how they choose to collate them afterwards.
Adding "most important issue" is a quick workaround.
Impact on economy + Impact on British jobs + ability to trade = 25
Immigrants into Britain + Cost on welfare system + refugees + housing = 24
I came to the conclusion that voters concerned about hospitals tend to be concerned about schools too.
If Leave want to win, they need to reassure women
Do you tweet about blow jobs? If not why not?
I had no idea he was planning on doing it until he published it.0 -
And at the same time you tell us "too wee, too poor, too stupid".TheScreamingEagles said:
I have belief in my country, The United States of Europe Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is the greatest country in the world. .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink
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I think that demand is subject to QMV firstTheScreamingEagles said:
I have belief in my country, The United States of Europe Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is the greatest country in the world.Alanbrooke said:
WTF !TheScreamingEagles said:
One of my friend's suggested that were I to back Remain, I should choose Philby, MacLean, Burgess or Cairncross as my avatar.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Um, OK... But wasn't he a first class TPD?TheScreamingEagles said:
He was a top bloke, went to a good uni and got an OBESunil_Prasannan said:
Any reason for the Philby avatar?TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.
Just sayin'...
they at least had a modicum of belief in this country.
I shall demand satisfaction from any man or woman who says otherwise.0 -
When have I said that?Indigo said:
And at the same time you tell us "too wee, too poor, too stupid".TheScreamingEagles said:
I have belief in my country, The United States of Europe Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is the greatest country in the world. .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink0 -
The Russian invasion of Manchuria, Sakhalin and the Kuriles may have been just as important as the nukes in convincing the Japanese to surrender.TheScreamingEagles said:
True, I've always rated both FDR and Truman as truly great Presidents.Alanbrooke said:
I can't see Japanese Americans agreeing with you.TheScreamingEagles said:
FDR and Harry Truman surely?Alanbrooke said:
PS looking at WW2 leaders I can't actually think of one who wasn't a pissed up racist, bar Adolf he was a sober one.Alanbrooke said:
I did consider it, but then I thought Halifax had more of a spine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.
FDR for being the most duplicitous bastard to be President, officially being neutral at the start of World War II, but doing everything he could to help the UK. Plus his Germany first policy was a key moment of WW2.
Truman for desegrating the army, having the balls to drop the bombs, and after leaving office, not accepting any offers as he thought it would demean the office of President.
Remember, as per Yalta Agreement, Stalin had to attack Japan three months after VE Day.0 -
Wasn't Adolf a junkie?Alanbrooke said:
PS looking at WW2 leaders I can't actually think of one who wasn't a pissed up racist, bar Adolf he was a sober one.Alanbrooke said:
I did consider it, but then I thought Halifax had more of a spine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.0 -
Ah ok, thanks for the info. No offence to the tweet, but I really don't get why he did that.TheScreamingEagles said:
Mike wrote the thread, honestly, I don't talk about myself in the third person.
I had no idea he was planning on doing it until he published it.0 -
I think I like you again now.TheScreamingEagles said:
One of my friend's suggested that were I to back Remain, I should choose Philby, MacLean, Burgess or Cairncross as my avatar.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Um, OK... But wasn't he a first class TPD?TheScreamingEagles said:
He was a top bloke, went to a good uni and got an OBESunil_Prasannan said:
Any reason for the Philby avatar?TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.
Just sayin'...0 -
I'm sure everyone is grateful for your incisive and conclusive views.Richard_Tyndall said:
Just highlighting your modus operandi and the facile nature of your arguments. Now since Vote Leave appears to have opted against the EEA route it is probably moot but if you want we can reopen your strange views on how EFTA works and I can show everyone how ignorant you are yet again.TOPPING said:
stop digging, Richard.Richard_Tyndall said:
Sorry Topping but these strange misquotes really don't fool anyone. All they show is that your actual grasp of the subject matter is so flaky and shallow that you have to rely upon deflection rather than dealing with the issues. Of course the problem is that you write opinion as fact whereas I make a point of distinguishing between the two.TOPPING said:
Don't panic Richard, we all let our guards down and allow the truth to slip out de temps en temps. You have acknowledged that all the stuff and nonsense you have been banging on about is your "personal view". I, personally, welcome that admission.
So please do continue with your asides. At least they save us from your fantasy ideas about how the EEA or EFTA work which bear no resemblance to reality at all.
Which are, after all, only your "personal view".0 -
Russia's current behaviour over the Kurile Islands is imo totally unacceptable. Sadly they're not a PB hot topic, or people might find my views on Russia more nuanced than they think.Sunil_Prasannan said:
The Russian invasion of Manchuria, Sakhalin and the Kuriles may have been just as important as the nukes in convincing the Japanese to surrender.TheScreamingEagles said:
True, I've always rated both FDR and Truman as truly great Presidents.Alanbrooke said:
I can't see Japanese Americans agreeing with you.TheScreamingEagles said:
FDR and Harry Truman surely?Alanbrooke said:
PS looking at WW2 leaders I can't actually think of one who wasn't a pissed up racist, bar Adolf he was a sober one.Alanbrooke said:
I did consider it, but then I thought Halifax had more of a spine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.
FDR for being the most duplicitous bastard to be President, officially being neutral at the start of World War II, but doing everything he could to help the UK. Plus his Germany first policy was a key moment of WW2.
Truman for desegrating the army, having the balls to drop the bombs, and after leaving office, not accepting any offers as he thought it would demean the office of President.
Remember, as per Yalta Agreement, Stalin had to attack Japan three months after VE Day.0 -
Mr. 1983, could you give us a quick summary of the Kurile Islands situation?0
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Lord King 'economic threat of Brexit is being exaggerated'
'I'm old enough to remember the referendum in Britain in 1975 on exactly the same issue. The one thing that both sides of the argument then were wrong about was that it would make a dramatic difference. It didn't.'
Correct.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/20/economic-threat-of-brexit-is-being-exaggerated-says-former-bank/0 -
SouthamObserver said:
Very sad and shocking news about Victoria Wood. She used to make my wife cry with laughter. And me sometimes, too. Very talented, very funny. Good grief! What is with this year? Very sad. RIP.
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O/T, this is a curious lawsuit:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/foods-counter-sues-tex-pastor-cake-gay-slur-suit-article-1.2607711
Clearly Texan pastors aren't like our CoE vicars down in deepest Sussex.0 -
Sometimes Mike is busy, sometimes it is very hard to write a thread, and you just stick in a couple of tweets as that's your thread header.Luckyguy1983 said:
Ah ok, thanks for the info. No offence to the tweet, but I really don't get why he did that.TheScreamingEagles said:
Mike wrote the thread, honestly, I don't talk about myself in the third person.
I had no idea he was planning on doing it until he published it.
Until I became guest editor, it wasn't something I really appreciated, for most of the year, Mike writes 3 threads a day. On average he writes 15-20 threads a week.
My longest stint as guest editor is just over 3 weeks, after about week 2, you're suffering from writer's block and struggling with stuff to write about.
Just imagine what Mike must feel like after doing this for 12 years plus.0 -
What makes me laugh about FDR was that he was also a duplicitous bastard to Churchill, then tried it on with Stalin but met his match.TheScreamingEagles said:
True, I've always rated both FDR and Truman as truly great Presidents.Alanbrooke said:
I can't see Japanese Americans agreeing with you.TheScreamingEagles said:
FDR and Harry Truman surely?Alanbrooke said:
PS looking at WW2 leaders I can't actually think of one who wasn't a pissed up racist, bar Adolf he was a sober one.Alanbrooke said:
I did consider it, but then I thought Halifax had more of a spine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.
FDR for being the most duplicitous bastard to be President, officially being neutral at the start of World War II, but doing everything he could to help the UK. Plus his Germany first policy was a key moment of WW2.
Truman for desegrating the army, having the balls to drop the bombs, and after leaving office, not accepting any offers as he thought it would demean the office of President.
Stalin was *such* a duplicitous bastard he manipulated the whole West through FDR. Even Churchill saw it but FDR never suspected anything, wouldn't listen to Churchill, and genuinely thought he had Stalin eating out of his palm.0 -
I always have a default cynical position when it comes to news stories involving any type of celebrity, but christ on a bike Lily Allen's ordeal sounds absolubtely horrendous and the stuff of nightmares.0
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I forgot Blunt, as my friend said, Anthony Blunt is perfect rhyming slang for Remainers.Casino_Royale said:
I think I like you again now.TheScreamingEagles said:
One of my friend's suggested that were I to back Remain, I should choose Philby, MacLean, Burgess or Cairncross as my avatar.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Um, OK... But wasn't he a first class TPD?TheScreamingEagles said:
He was a top bloke, went to a good uni and got an OBESunil_Prasannan said:
Any reason for the Philby avatar?TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.
Just sayin'...0 -
This has got to be the most absurd claim ever in The Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/19/review-the-security-of-our-borders-to-keep-britain-safe-say-form/Britain currently relies largely on information provided by European intelligence agencies on suspected terrorists when establishing whether people attempting to enter the country pose a risk.
Genuine WTF moment when we are a major provider and sharer in the world's premium intelligence network and the rest of Europe... isnt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes0 -
Having thought about it, I agree with @Richard_Nabavi that 8.2 on Remain getting 60-65% is worth backing. So I have.0
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You are enjoying all this immensely, aren't you? ;-DAlastairMeeks said:Having thought about it, I agree with @Richard_Nabavi that 8.2 on Remain getting 60-65% is worth backing. So I have.
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That's your next thread sorted.AlastairMeeks said:Having thought about it, I agree with @Richard_Nabavi that 8.2 on Remain getting 60-65% is worth backing. So I have.
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To say nothing of what his wife feels like...TheScreamingEagles said:
Sometimes Mike is busy, sometimes it is very hard to write a thread, and you just stick in a couple of tweets as that's your thread header.Luckyguy1983 said:
Ah ok, thanks for the info. No offence to the tweet, but I really don't get why he did that.TheScreamingEagles said:
Mike wrote the thread, honestly, I don't talk about myself in the third person.
I had no idea he was planning on doing it until he published it.
Until I became guest editor, it wasn't something I really appreciated, for most of the year, Mike writes 3 threads a day. On average he writes 15-20 threads a week.
My longest stint as guest editor is just over 3 weeks, after about week 2, you're suffering from writer's block and struggling with stuff to write about.
Just imagine what Mike must feel like after doing this for 12 years plus.
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Hmm. With whom is that 8.2? Betfair?
I wonder what 55-60 is.0 -
Sad news about Victoria Wood, whose eye for detail was unparalleled among comedians.0
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Me? To borrow the words of a past poster, I'm just a soldier for truth.SouthamObserver said:
You are enjoying all this immensely, aren't you? ;-DAlastairMeeks said:Having thought about it, I agree with @Richard_Nabavi that 8.2 on Remain getting 60-65% is worth backing. So I have.
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I think her patience has only been tested when Mike delayed their holiday because of the Indyref.Innocent_Abroad said:
To say nothing of what his wife feels like...TheScreamingEagles said:
Sometimes Mike is busy, sometimes it is very hard to write a thread, and you just stick in a couple of tweets as that's your thread header.Luckyguy1983 said:
Ah ok, thanks for the info. No offence to the tweet, but I really don't get why he did that.TheScreamingEagles said:
Mike wrote the thread, honestly, I don't talk about myself in the third person.
I had no idea he was planning on doing it until he published it.
Until I became guest editor, it wasn't something I really appreciated, for most of the year, Mike writes 3 threads a day. On average he writes 15-20 threads a week.
My longest stint as guest editor is just over 3 weeks, after about week 2, you're suffering from writer's block and struggling with stuff to write about.
Just imagine what Mike must feel like after doing this for 12 years plus.0 -
The US is a hell of alot more litigous than the UK in general, and alot of people here think (OK me) people sue too easily.Richard_Nabavi said:O/T, this is a curious lawsuit:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/foods-counter-sues-tex-pastor-cake-gay-slur-suit-article-1.2607711
Clearly Texan pastors aren't like our CoE vicars down in deepest Sussex.
Would a baker in their right mind in the US ice "Love wins Fag" onto a cake in the US ?!
Occam's razor says he's iced it himself, or had someone else do it "after the fact". I hope the bakery countersuit ruins him.0 -
Well, I shall be motoring down the Mediterranean coast of Italy on my way to the delights of Naples and the Amalfi coast at the time of the referendum.
For the first time in my life I will get a postal vote.
It will be interesting viewing the result from outside the UK.0 -
Not every thread on PB has to be candidate for the Nobel Prize for Literature.Luckyguy1983 said:
Let TSE tweet about blowjobs if he wants to - there's far worse on twitter. My issue is that it doesn't in any way shape of form constitute commentary, even bad commentary. Nor was it informative in any way. As such it was probably the lowest quality post I've seen whilst I've been viewing the site. I noticed that TSE didn't put his name on it, I presume because that would have made it look even more risible than it akready did.JackW said:
I have no head for such matters.blackburn63 said:
I don't find it offensive and have no idea why would suggest I do.JackW said:
If you find PB so offensive it's a wonder you trouble OGH and TSE with your presence.blackburn63 said:
By writing thread headers about blow jobsTheScreamingEagles said:
I've got a thread coming up on that topic, and the gender splits.Pulpstar said:
I did some analysis on one of the "issues" poll to test Mr Meek's hypothesis that the EU and immigration are seen as seperate issues.TheScreamingEagles said:
That was kinda my point, you can really add things together from that poll with 100% certainty.Pulpstar said:
Impact on economy + Impact on British jobs + ability to trade = 25TheScreamingEagles said:
You can also the economy is divided into three different categories, adding up to 55%MarkHopkins said:taffys said:
It seems to me that the 'immigration' issues have been divided up into about four questions of different sorts in that survey.Scott_P said:
Added together, they are more than the economy...
They are not different options as it is unprompted. The issue is how they choose to collate them afterwards.
Immigrants into Britain + Cost on welfare system + refugees + housing = 24
I came to the conclusion that voters concerned about hospitals tend to be concerned about schools too.
If Leave want to win, they need to reassure women
Do you tweet about blow jobs? If not why not?
And if the worse for our considerable entry fee that we have to worry about is one thread leader reference to rumpy pumpy then clearly we'd should all be rushing down to Trading Standards and asking about a refund.0 -
I think we'd get on.TheScreamingEagles said:
I forgot Blunt, as my friend said, Anthony Blunt is perfect rhyming slang for Remainers.Casino_Royale said:
I think I like you again now.TheScreamingEagles said:
One of my friend's suggested that were I to back Remain, I should choose Philby, MacLean, Burgess or Cairncross as my avatar.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Um, OK... But wasn't he a first class TPD?TheScreamingEagles said:
He was a top bloke, went to a good uni and got an OBESunil_Prasannan said:
Any reason for the Philby avatar?TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.
Just sayin'...0 -
In my opinion it's a simple case of victor's justice. Japan claims the southernmost two islands, in accordance with an 1855 treaty (I had to look this up), Russia had the rest, but Russia grabbed them in the war and have simply deported all the Japanese back to mainland Japan. The Russians have no legal claim that I can see. They have offered to give back the closest two Islands to Japan, which is about 7% of what the Japanese claim. Land-grabbing in this fashion when you're the biggest country in the world seems pointless.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. 1983, could you give us a quick summary of the Kurile Islands situation?
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Absolutely. Mike must feel like pulling his hair out ....TheScreamingEagles said:
Sometimes Mike is busy, sometimes it is very hard to write a thread, and you just stick in a couple of tweets as that's your thread header.Luckyguy1983 said:
Ah ok, thanks for the info. No offence to the tweet, but I really don't get why he did that.TheScreamingEagles said:
Mike wrote the thread, honestly, I don't talk about myself in the third person.
I had no idea he was planning on doing it until he published it.
Until I became guest editor, it wasn't something I really appreciated, for most of the year, Mike writes 3 threads a day. On average he writes 15-20 threads a week.
My longest stint as guest editor is just over 3 weeks, after about week 2, you're suffering from writer's block and struggling with stuff to write about.
Just imagine what Mike must feel like after doing this for 12 years plus.
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Lol!JackW said:
Absolutely. Mike must feel like pulling his hair out ....TheScreamingEagles said:
Sometimes Mike is busy, sometimes it is very hard to write a thread, and you just stick in a couple of tweets as that's your thread header.Luckyguy1983 said:
Ah ok, thanks for the info. No offence to the tweet, but I really don't get why he did that.TheScreamingEagles said:
Mike wrote the thread, honestly, I don't talk about myself in the third person.
I had no idea he was planning on doing it until he published it.
Until I became guest editor, it wasn't something I really appreciated, for most of the year, Mike writes 3 threads a day. On average he writes 15-20 threads a week.
My longest stint as guest editor is just over 3 weeks, after about week 2, you're suffering from writer's block and struggling with stuff to write about.
Just imagine what Mike must feel like after doing this for 12 years plus.0 -
I have no idea what Mrs OGH feels like and it's a wicked idea to suggest other PBers have put the squeeze on her either !!Innocent_Abroad said:
To say nothing of what his wife feels like...TheScreamingEagles said:
Sometimes Mike is busy, sometimes it is very hard to write a thread, and you just stick in a couple of tweets as that's your thread header.Luckyguy1983 said:
Ah ok, thanks for the info. No offence to the tweet, but I really don't get why he did that.TheScreamingEagles said:
Mike wrote the thread, honestly, I don't talk about myself in the third person.
I had no idea he was planning on doing it until he published it.
Until I became guest editor, it wasn't something I really appreciated, for most of the year, Mike writes 3 threads a day. On average he writes 15-20 threads a week.
My longest stint as guest editor is just over 3 weeks, after about week 2, you're suffering from writer's block and struggling with stuff to write about.
Just imagine what Mike must feel like after doing this for 12 years plus.0 -
Quite.runnymede said:Lord King 'economic threat of Brexit is being exaggerated'
'I'm old enough to remember the referendum in Britain in 1975 on exactly the same issue. The one thing that both sides of the argument then were wrong about was that it would make a dramatic difference. It didn't.'
Correct.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/20/economic-threat-of-brexit-is-being-exaggerated-says-former-bank/
I honestly believe there'll be a couple of months turbulence if we Leave, and then things will get back to normal very quickly. (Though I am amused that the Tories are implicitly talking down their much-vaunted "economic competence", since they're now saying all the British economy's strength is down to the EU rather than anything the govt is doing).0 -
Indeed, but there is the option to simply let the previous thread run on, or (as encouragingly seems to be happening more) have some of the longer standing members submit threads for publication.JackW said:
Not every thread on PB has to be candidate for the Nobel Prize for Literature.
And if the worse for our considerable entry fee that we have to worry about is one thread leader reference to rumpy pumpy then clearly we'd should all be rushing down to Trading Standards and asking about a refund.0 -
C hurchillAlanbrooke said:
PS looking at WW2 leaders I can't actually think of one who wasn't a pissed up racist, bar Adolf he was a sober one.Alanbrooke said:
I did consider it, but then I thought Halifax had more of a spine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.
H itler
R oosevelt
I l Duce
S talin
T ojo
An easy way to remember WW2 Leaders/ Most influential parties.
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Quite. Perhaps there should be a 'direct rule by EU' option on the ballot paper, if we are so helpless.Danny565 said:
Quite.runnymede said:Lord King 'economic threat of Brexit is being exaggerated'
'I'm old enough to remember the referendum in Britain in 1975 on exactly the same issue. The one thing that both sides of the argument then were wrong about was that it would make a dramatic difference. It didn't.'
Correct.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/20/economic-threat-of-brexit-is-being-exaggerated-says-former-bank/
I honestly believe there'll be a couple of months turbulence if we Leave, and then things will get back to normal very quickly. (Though I am amused that the Tories are implicitly talking down their much-vaunted "economic competence", since they're now saying all the British economy's strength is down to the EU rather than anything the govt is doing).0 -
Mr. 1983, cheers.
If the islands are strategically located (which it sounds like they may be) and/or have resources, that could explain it, as per China's militaristic expansion into the South China Sea.0 -
Good point. Don't think Tojo was pissed up.weejonnie said:
C hurchillAlanbrooke said:
PS looking at WW2 leaders I can't actually think of one who wasn't a pissed up racist, bar Adolf he was a sober one.Alanbrooke said:
I did consider it, but then I thought Halifax had more of a spine.TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.
H itler
R oosevelt
I l Duce
S talin
T ojo
An easy way to remember WW2 Leaders/ Most influential parties.0 -
Fishing or oil rights? Usually why people want pointless little islands. See Rockall.Luckyguy1983 said:
In my opinion it's a simple case of victor's justice. Japan claims the southernmost two islands, in accordance with an 1855 treaty (I had to look this up), Russia had the rest, but Russia grabbed them in the war and have simply deported all the Japanese back to mainland Japan. The Russians have no legal claim that I can see. They have offered to give back the closest two Islands to Japan, which is about 7% of what the Japanese claim. Land-grabbing in this fashion when you're the biggest country in the world seems pointless.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. 1983, could you give us a quick summary of the Kurile Islands situation?
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Mike normally only uses continuation threads during periods of vast traffic at election time and when @MikeK issues his UKIP MP forecast ....Luckyguy1983 said:
Indeed, but there is the option to simply let the previous thread run on, or (as encouragingly seems to be happening more) have some of the longer standing members submit threads for publication.JackW said:
Not every thread on PB has to be candidate for the Nobel Prize for Literature.
And if the worse for our considerable entry fee that we have to worry about is one thread leader reference to rumpy pumpy then clearly we'd should all be rushing down to Trading Standards and asking about a refund.
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Mr Meeks article at the top sites two examples of LEAVE attacking people for REMAIN. Both Redwood and Farage are not on the main group of LEAVE. Therefore it cannot be said that the official campaign is personalisIng this.0
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Quite. It does give rise to the question 'What is the point of the Tories', if economic success is nothing to do with them, guv.Danny565 said:
Quite.runnymede said:Lord King 'economic threat of Brexit is being exaggerated'
'I'm old enough to remember the referendum in Britain in 1975 on exactly the same issue. The one thing that both sides of the argument then were wrong about was that it would make a dramatic difference. It didn't.'
Correct.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/20/economic-threat-of-brexit-is-being-exaggerated-says-former-bank/
I honestly believe there'll be a couple of months turbulence if we Leave, and then things will get back to normal very quickly. (Though I am amused that the Tories are implicitly talking down their much-vaunted "economic competence", since they're now saying all the British economy's strength is down to the EU rather than anything the govt is doing).
And I'm sure Labour scavengers such as McBride are making a careful note of everything too, for later reference.0 -
You would. He would tell you you're not going to win the referendum by trashing Cameron.Casino_Royale said:
I think we'd get on.TheScreamingEagles said:
I forgot Blunt, as my friend said, Anthony Blunt is perfect rhyming slang for Remainers.Casino_Royale said:
I think I like you again now.TheScreamingEagles said:
One of my friend's suggested that were I to back Remain, I should choose Philby, MacLean, Burgess or Cairncross as my avatar.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Um, OK... But wasn't he a first class TPD?TheScreamingEagles said:
He was a top bloke, went to a good uni and got an OBESunil_Prasannan said:
Any reason for the Philby avatar?TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.
Just sayin'...
His way is 'I like and trust David Cameron, and want him to be PM for as long he wishes. I just don't trust the EU, that's why I'm voting Leave'0 -
The Amalfi coast is one of my all time favourite places.Cyclefree said:Well, I shall be motoring down the Mediterranean coast of Italy on my way to the delights of Naples and the Amalfi coast at the time of the referendum.
For the first time in my life I will get a postal vote.
It will be interesting viewing the result from outside the UK.
Off to Lake Garda in June, never been so looking forward to that.0 -
Yes, but Russia is one of the most natural resource rich countries on earth. If anything I feel their interests would be better served by trying to build bridges with Japan over it. Won't happen now of course. There is what I imagine to be a settled population, Russia are best mates with China and Japan are very much under US control.DavidL said:
Fishing or oil rights? Usually why people want pointless little islands. See Rockall.Luckyguy1983 said:
In my opinion it's a simple case of victor's justice. Japan claims the southernmost two islands, in accordance with an 1855 treaty (I had to look this up), Russia had the rest, but Russia grabbed them in the war and have simply deported all the Japanese back to mainland Japan. The Russians have no legal claim that I can see. They have offered to give back the closest two Islands to Japan, which is about 7% of what the Japanese claim. Land-grabbing in this fashion when you're the biggest country in the world seems pointless.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. 1983, could you give us a quick summary of the Kurile Islands situation?
Incidentally, on natural resources, one of the positives of being sanctioned is that the Russian economy is being forced to diversify, and therefore looks likely to return to growth fairly soon.0 -
God guys, get a roomCasino_Royale said:
I think we'd get on.TheScreamingEagles said:
I forgot Blunt, as my friend said, Anthony Blunt is perfect rhyming slang for Remainers.Casino_Royale said:
I think I like you again now.TheScreamingEagles said:
One of my friend's suggested that were I to back Remain, I should choose Philby, MacLean, Burgess or Cairncross as my avatar.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Um, OK... But wasn't he a first class TPD?TheScreamingEagles said:
He was a top bloke, went to a good uni and got an OBESunil_Prasannan said:
Any reason for the Philby avatar?TheScreamingEagles said:
Harsh to call Johnno a pissed up racist like Churchill.Alanbrooke said:
Eagles = Neville ChamberlainTheScreamingEagles said:
We defeated Napoleon as part as a vast Europe wide coalition, and with some of our Canadian cousins too.taffys said:
How on EARTH did we do that without being a member of the EU...??Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, indeed, quite right to highlight Britain's historic successes fighting against the monstrosity of European empire-building.
As for World War II, we did it as part of a Europe Wide alliance, with massive help from our Empire forces.
Tykejohnno = Winston Churchill
I would have been most upset if you had compared me to Lord Halifax.
Just sayin'...
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A genuinely sensible contribution from the former Governer of the BoE, who isn't in George Osborne's pocket.runnymede said:Lord King 'economic threat of Brexit is being exaggerated'
'I'm old enough to remember the referendum in Britain in 1975 on exactly the same issue. The one thing that both sides of the argument then were wrong about was that it would make a dramatic difference. It didn't.'
Correct.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/20/economic-threat-of-brexit-is-being-exaggerated-says-former-bank/
Funny the Remainers are quiet about it.0 -
OMG .... you mean Farage and Redwood are official LEAVE non-persons ....TCPoliticalBetting said:Mr Meeks article at the top sites two examples of LEAVE attacking people for REMAIN. Both Redwood and Farage are not on the main group of LEAVE. Therefore it cannot be said that the official campaign is personalisIng this.
Run for the hills .... the LEAVE Walking Dead are coming to get us !! ....0 -
No point listening to Lord King. He was wrong when he was part of the 364 economists who slagged off Thatcher and Howe, and he's wrong now.Casino_Royale said:
A genuinely sensible contribution from the former Governer of the BoE, who isn't in George Osborne's pocket.runnymede said:Lord King 'economic threat of Brexit is being exaggerated'
'I'm old enough to remember the referendum in Britain in 1975 on exactly the same issue. The one thing that both sides of the argument then were wrong about was that it would make a dramatic difference. It didn't.'
Correct.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/20/economic-threat-of-brexit-is-being-exaggerated-says-former-bank/
Funny the Remainers are quiet about it.0 -
Looks more likely to collapse to me. The OPEC meeting was a yawn for the west but very bad news for the biggest oil producer in the world. If oil stays near its current prices and Russian output starts to drop off the position will be unsustainable.Luckyguy1983 said:
Yes, but Russia is one of the most natural resource rich countries on earth. If anything I feel their interests would be better served by trying to build bridges with Japan over it. Won't happen now of course. There is what I imagine to be a settled population, Russia are best mates with China and Japan are very much under US control.DavidL said:
Fishing or oil rights? Usually why people want pointless little islands. See Rockall.Luckyguy1983 said:
In my opinion it's a simple case of victor's justice. Japan claims the southernmost two islands, in accordance with an 1855 treaty (I had to look this up), Russia had the rest, but Russia grabbed them in the war and have simply deported all the Japanese back to mainland Japan. The Russians have no legal claim that I can see. They have offered to give back the closest two Islands to Japan, which is about 7% of what the Japanese claim. Land-grabbing in this fashion when you're the biggest country in the world seems pointless.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. 1983, could you give us a quick summary of the Kurile Islands situation?
Incidentally, on natural resources, one of the positives of being sanctioned is that the Russian economy is being forced to diversify, and therefore looks likely to return to growth fairly soon.0 -
Of course it's victor's justice.Luckyguy1983 said:
In my opinion it's a simple case of victor's justice. Japan claims the southernmost two islands, in accordance with an 1855 treaty (I had to look this up), Russia had the rest, but Russia grabbed them in the war and have simply deported all the Japanese back to mainland Japan. The Russians have no legal claim that I can see. They have offered to give back the closest two Islands to Japan, which is about 7% of what the Japanese claim. Land-grabbing in this fashion when you're the biggest country in the world seems pointless.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. 1983, could you give us a quick summary of the Kurile Islands situation?
Japan gave up its own claim to the Kuriles when it signed the Treaty of San Francisco in 1951.
That treaty wasn't signed by the USSR, but that's not the point, because it was signed by Japan. By the time of the Japanese-Soviet Declaration of 1956, which ended the state of war between the two countries while not amounting to a peace treaty, Japan was arguing the toss over how to define "Kuriles", claiming that some of the annexed islands weren't in the Kuriles. Meanwhile the USSR didn't just offer to give back the Habomai and the Shikotan Islands; they said they would, once there was a peace treaty. In the late 1980s and the 1990s Japan maybe had a chance to buy not just the Kuriles but also Kamchatka and perhaps even part of Siberia, but while they may get back a few smaller islands - depending for example on what happens with the price of oil - the train has left the station, I think, in respect of most of the territory they lost to the USSR in 1945. They might as well decide to reverse the renunciation of their claims to Sakhalin or Manchuria.0 -
Before I read this thread, my view was as below
And though the piece is more about ad hominem from one side not the other, when it certainly happens the other direction as well, I mostly stand by it.kle4 said:
Yes, conducting it in a political manner in order to win was totally unexpected and beyond the pale.taffys said:
Agree 100%. Feeling extremely bitter not about his campaign, but the way he has conducted it.FattyBolger said:Cameron really is a busted flush now. He will probably win his vote but will forever be regarded as effectively a traitor by somewhere near half the country. See Blair/Iraq for howsuch profound disapproval neednot fade. This reflects not his position, that in is better than out. That can be legitimately argued. It is the deliberate deception,and his dishonourable conduct in looking to rig the scales that have done for his reputation inmy view
Personally I think Leavers, particularly Tory Leavers, should hold off the traitor talk until after the referendum. Leave has the most compelling arguments, the best drive, and the status quo has less firmness to it than the IndyRef. Calling out Cameron for misleading or unfair stuff is fine if people feel that, but it is standard political behaviour, and focusing too much on how he's 'rigging' things and 'betraying' things risks looking like Leave think they'll lose and are getting excuses in or focusing more on the man than the arguments (when they can do both).0 -
You haven't read the thread header?TheScreamingEagles said:
No point listening to Lord King. He was wrong when he was part of the 364 economists who slagged off Thatcher and Howe, and he's wrong now.Casino_Royale said:
A genuinely sensible contribution from the former Governer of the BoE, who isn't in George Osborne's pocket.runnymede said:Lord King 'economic threat of Brexit is being exaggerated'
'I'm old enough to remember the referendum in Britain in 1975 on exactly the same issue. The one thing that both sides of the argument then were wrong about was that it would make a dramatic difference. It didn't.'
Correct.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/20/economic-threat-of-brexit-is-being-exaggerated-says-former-bank/
Funny the Remainers are quiet about it.0 -
You may notice the divide that has opened up between people no longer in office and dependent on patronage, and those who are.Casino_Royale said:
A genuinely sensible contribution from the former Governer of the BoE, who isn't in George Osborne's pocket.runnymede said:Lord King 'economic threat of Brexit is being exaggerated'
'I'm old enough to remember the referendum in Britain in 1975 on exactly the same issue. The one thing that both sides of the argument then were wrong about was that it would make a dramatic difference. It didn't.'
Correct.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/20/economic-threat-of-brexit-is-being-exaggerated-says-former-bank/
Funny the Remainers are quiet about it.0 -
Pennsylvania - Monmouth Uni
Clinton 52 .. Sanders 39
http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/32212254770/32212254991/32212254992/32212254994/32212254995/30064771087/143fe2e7-7497-44ed-8aef-c93505a1fa96.pdf0 -
There's undoubtedly propaganda on both sides. There was a 3.7 GDP contraction in 2015, and they are predicting a 0.3 contraction in 2016. If true, it would appear to indicate a return to growth in 2017. Of course sanctions wound, but markets adjust, people adjust, and if something is artificially undervalued, it will find its real value one way or another. This is as true and pertinent to the Brexit argument as it is to anything else.DavidL said:
Looks more likely to collapse to me. The OPEC meeting was a yawn for the west but very bad news for the biggest oil producer in the world. If oil stays near its current prices and Russian output starts to drop off the position will be unsustainable.Luckyguy1983 said:
Yes, but Russia is one of the most natural resource rich countries on earth. If anything I feel their interests would be better served by trying to build bridges with Japan over it. Won't happen now of course. There is what I imagine to be a settled population, Russia are best mates with China and Japan are very much under US control.DavidL said:
Fishing or oil rights? Usually why people want pointless little islands. See Rockall.Luckyguy1983 said:
In my opinion it's a simple case of victor's justice. Japan claims the southernmost two islands, in accordance with an 1855 treaty (I had to look this up), Russia had the rest, but Russia grabbed them in the war and have simply deported all the Japanese back to mainland Japan. The Russians have no legal claim that I can see. They have offered to give back the closest two Islands to Japan, which is about 7% of what the Japanese claim. Land-grabbing in this fashion when you're the biggest country in the world seems pointless.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. 1983, could you give us a quick summary of the Kurile Islands situation?
Incidentally, on natural resources, one of the positives of being sanctioned is that the Russian economy is being forced to diversify, and therefore looks likely to return to growth fairly soon.0 -
A quick recap on the GOP race.
After N.Y. I have Trump ranging from 1194 to 1274 delegates in the end.
The 8 key races to look at:
April 26th
Connecticut, will Trump get more that 50% to trigger WTA ?
Maryland, will Trump win all CD's to get all delegates ?
May 3rd
Indiana, will Trump win the state or at least most CD's ?
May 10th
W.Virginia, will Trump manage to overcome the extremely complex rules to get at least 20 delegates ?
May 24th
Washington, will Trump win the state or at least most CD's ?
June 7th
California, will Trump succeed in turning his almost 20 point lead into a landslide with delegates ?
Montana, will Trump win the state ?
Bonus.
Will Trump get any of the Pennsylvania unpledged delegates ?
Trump can afford to underperform or lose or get zero delegates in 3 out of those 8 and still be above 1237.0 -
Lord King helped keep us out the Euro. At best it tells you economists can't forecast shit.TheScreamingEagles said:
No point listening to Lord King. He was wrong when he was part of the 364 economists who slagged off Thatcher and Howe, and he's wrong now.Casino_Royale said:
A genuinely sensible contribution from the former Governer of the BoE, who isn't in George Osborne's pocket.runnymede said:Lord King 'economic threat of Brexit is being exaggerated'
'I'm old enough to remember the referendum in Britain in 1975 on exactly the same issue. The one thing that both sides of the argument then were wrong about was that it would make a dramatic difference. It didn't.'
Correct.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/20/economic-threat-of-brexit-is-being-exaggerated-says-former-bank/
Funny the Remainers are quiet about it.
And Tebbit/Thatcher/Lawson/Owen were all europhiles back then.
How is the weather in Moscow this evening?0
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