Lambie-Nairn, the agency wot designed the logo, intended it to represent molecular oxygen (an allusion to the "necessity" of telecoms, presumably!), which is represented with a capital "O". Ergo, "O2".
The BT Cellnet consumer brand was renamed O2 - the chemical symbol for unbound oxygen - as were all the group's other businesses (other than Manx Telecom). The re-branding was designed by the Lambie-Nairn design agency, which developed the idea of the company supplying services that were essential, much the same as oxygen is essential for life. With this, the company logo and associated graphics were designed, using air bubbles to present this.
You would never know from this that the UK is actually world leading in testing, whicj is massively unfair. The tracing system now thats a different matter.
But a bit rubbish at the trace element.
And didn't even bother with the isolate bit of it.
Indeed, I wouldn't mind as much but for the fact we spent billions on the trace and isolate bit.
You would never know from this that the UK is actually world leading in testing, whicj is massively unfair. The tracing system now thats a different matter.
But a bit rubbish at the trace element.
Criticism of that is total justified, but not to at least acknowledge we do have a really good testing system is unfair and biased by omission. As we all know on here, it is also why direct comparison of cases numbers with say the rest of Europe is fake news.
Lambie-Nairn, the agency wot designed the logo, intended it to represent molecular oxygen (an allusion to the "necessity" of telecoms, presumably!), which is represented with a capital "O". Ergo, "O2".
The BT Cellnet consumer brand was renamed O2 - the chemical symbol for unbound oxygen - as were all the group's other businesses (other than Manx Telecom). The re-branding was designed by the Lambie-Nairn design agency, which developed the idea of the company supplying services that were essential, much the same as oxygen is essential for life. With this, the company logo and associated graphics were designed, using air bubbles to present this.
What has that to do with an allegation of sexual abuse
Do you ever think before you post
Well for starters it means it was not criminal by reason of age, so she would have to prove sexual relations without her consent which is much harder to do
You would never know from this that the UK is actually world leading in testing, whicj is massively unfair. The tracing system now thats a different matter.
But a bit rubbish at the trace element.
And didn't even bother with the isolate bit of it.
To be fair, that is mostly down to the public not sticking to the rules.
I notice on the cricket commentary tonight the NZ commentator said you can't book to get back into NZ now until next Feb, as no spare isolation hotel spaces until then!!!!! Next Feb that's crazy, even if you are a citizen you are now stranded overseas until then.
I presume he was in Pizza Express in Woking at the time....
Last year at the height of the lockdown I said to the other half one of things we need to do once things are back to normal is to go the Woking Pizza Express.
Lambie-Nairn, the agency wot designed the logo, intended it to represent molecular oxygen (an allusion to the "necessity" of telecoms, presumably!), which is represented with a capital "O". Ergo, "O2".
The BT Cellnet consumer brand was renamed O2 - the chemical symbol for unbound oxygen - as were all the group's other businesses (other than Manx Telecom). The re-branding was designed by the Lambie-Nairn design agency, which developed the idea of the company supplying services that were essential, much the same as oxygen is essential for life. With this, the company logo and associated graphics were designed, using air bubbles to present this.
This is where being a Wiki warrior exposes you.
Check out mmo2.
And this exposes you as a non-scientist. The chemical symbol for oxygen is a capital "O". And an oxygen molecule, consisting of two atoms, is therefore "O2".*
(* Of course, with the "2" subscript - can you do subscript on Vanilla?).
I could just about cope with all this wibble about mobile phone networks, but a dozen posts arguing the toss over an upper or lower case letter just takes it to a whole different level.
Lambie-Nairn, the agency wot designed the logo, intended it to represent molecular oxygen (an allusion to the "necessity" of telecoms, presumably!), which is represented with a capital "O". Ergo, "O2".
The BT Cellnet consumer brand was renamed O2 - the chemical symbol for unbound oxygen - as were all the group's other businesses (other than Manx Telecom). The re-branding was designed by the Lambie-Nairn design agency, which developed the idea of the company supplying services that were essential, much the same as oxygen is essential for life. With this, the company logo and associated graphics were designed, using air bubbles to present this.
This is where being a Wiki warrior exposes you.
Check out mmo2.
And this exposes you as a non-scientist. The chemical symbol for oxygen is a capital "O". And an oxygen molecule, consisting of two atoms, is therefore "O2".*
(* Of course, with the "2" subscript - can you do subscript on Vanilla?).
Simple question for you.
I worked over 800 hours when o2 was a client.
How many hours have you worked for them? Did they give you a style guide like they did for us?
I could just about cope with all this wibble about mobile phone networks, but a dozen posts arguing the toss over an upper or lower case letter just takes it to a whole different level.
I'll come back for the AV thread.
Night all.
We could get back to arguing which of Nyetimber's excellent offerings should be reserved for the misses vs the mistress....
Lambie-Nairn, the agency wot designed the logo, intended it to represent molecular oxygen (an allusion to the "necessity" of telecoms, presumably!), which is represented with a capital "O". Ergo, "O2".
The BT Cellnet consumer brand was renamed O2 - the chemical symbol for unbound oxygen - as were all the group's other businesses (other than Manx Telecom). The re-branding was designed by the Lambie-Nairn design agency, which developed the idea of the company supplying services that were essential, much the same as oxygen is essential for life. With this, the company logo and associated graphics were designed, using air bubbles to present this.
This is where being a Wiki warrior exposes you.
Check out mmo2.
And I worked for them when they were Securicor Cellular Services! And it was always mmO2 when I saw it...
I could just about cope with all this wibble about mobile phone networks, but a dozen posts arguing the toss over an upper or lower case letter just takes it to a whole different level.
Lambie-Nairn, the agency wot designed the logo, intended it to represent molecular oxygen (an allusion to the "necessity" of telecoms, presumably!), which is represented with a capital "O". Ergo, "O2".
The BT Cellnet consumer brand was renamed O2 - the chemical symbol for unbound oxygen - as were all the group's other businesses (other than Manx Telecom). The re-branding was designed by the Lambie-Nairn design agency, which developed the idea of the company supplying services that were essential, much the same as oxygen is essential for life. With this, the company logo and associated graphics were designed, using air bubbles to present this.
This is where being a Wiki warrior exposes you.
Check out mmo2.
And I worked for them when they were Securicor Cellular Services! And it was always mmO2 when I saw it...
They were very keen to highlight it was the letter 'o' rather than a number due to fears of cybersquatting etc.
Let us not forget that Nigel Farage has his own OnlyFans account.
As opposed to David Cameron, whose only fans are you and Richard Nabavi.
Well, yes, but given that the competition in the last 15 years comprises Gordon Brown, Theresa May, and Boris Johnson, TSE and I are very secure in our assessment.
The wirecard fraud in particular is absolutely incredible. They really need to make a big short style movie about it, but it might be thought that the plot is too unbelievable for punters to buy into e.g. from hiring actors to pretend they are a bank in the Far East to try and con the auditors on video calls, to all the genuine part of the business being from the dodgy adult sector.
The wirecard fraud in particular is absolutely incredible. They really need to make a big short style movie about it, but it might be thought that the plot is too unbelievable for punters to buy into e.g. hiring actors to pretend they are a bank in the Far East.
They still need to do one on Enron.
They sold the same asset 50 times over to group subsidiaries.
The asset was worth $200,000 at the start and after the 50 transactions in six month was worth $20,000,000.
And it was overvalued when it was sold for $200,000 and they did with so many 'assets'.
Lambie-Nairn, the agency wot designed the logo, intended it to represent molecular oxygen (an allusion to the "necessity" of telecoms, presumably!), which is represented with a capital "O". Ergo, "O2".
The BT Cellnet consumer brand was renamed O2 - the chemical symbol for unbound oxygen - as were all the group's other businesses (other than Manx Telecom). The re-branding was designed by the Lambie-Nairn design agency, which developed the idea of the company supplying services that were essential, much the same as oxygen is essential for life. With this, the company logo and associated graphics were designed, using air bubbles to present this.
This is where being a Wiki warrior exposes you.
Check out mmo2.
And I worked for them when they were Securicor Cellular Services! And it was always mmO2 when I saw it...
They were very keen to highlight it was the letter 'o' rather than a number due to fears of cybersquatting etc.
They paid a ridiculous amount on SEO etc.
mmO2 lasted what? 6 months tops? It rebranded to O2 the same year.
Lambie-Nairn, the agency wot designed the logo, intended it to represent molecular oxygen (an allusion to the "necessity" of telecoms, presumably!), which is represented with a capital "O". Ergo, "O2".
The BT Cellnet consumer brand was renamed O2 - the chemical symbol for unbound oxygen - as were all the group's other businesses (other than Manx Telecom). The re-branding was designed by the Lambie-Nairn design agency, which developed the idea of the company supplying services that were essential, much the same as oxygen is essential for life. With this, the company logo and associated graphics were designed, using air bubbles to present this.
This is where being a Wiki warrior exposes you.
Check out mmo2.
And this exposes you as a non-scientist. The chemical symbol for oxygen is a capital "O". And an oxygen molecule, consisting of two atoms, is therefore "O2".*
(* Of course, with the "2" subscript - can you do subscript on Vanilla?).
Simple question for you.
I worked over 800 hours when o2 was a client.
How many hours have you worked for them? Did they give you a style guide like they did for us?
O2 was the brand, since 2002, it was never o2.
Oxygen is represented with a capital O.
Lambie-Nairn designed the logo after the oxygen molecule, O2.
The wirecard fraud in particular is absolutely incredible. They really need to make a big short style movie about it, but it might be thought that the plot is too unbelievable for punters to buy into e.g. hiring actors to pretend they are a bank in the Far East.
They still need to do one on Enron.
They sold the same asset 50 times over to group subsidiaries.
The asset was worth $200,000 at the start and after the 50 transactions in six month was worth $20,000,000.
And it was overvalued when it was sold for $200,000 and they did with so many 'assets'.
Obviously the next big one is all the cyptro sector. There is a YouTube guy whose whole channel is now pretty much exposing a new scam every day. There are now over 10k shit coins, i mean alt-coins, getting the pump and dump, rug pulls, money laundering, etc.
Lambie-Nairn, the agency wot designed the logo, intended it to represent molecular oxygen (an allusion to the "necessity" of telecoms, presumably!), which is represented with a capital "O". Ergo, "O2".
The BT Cellnet consumer brand was renamed O2 - the chemical symbol for unbound oxygen - as were all the group's other businesses (other than Manx Telecom). The re-branding was designed by the Lambie-Nairn design agency, which developed the idea of the company supplying services that were essential, much the same as oxygen is essential for life. With this, the company logo and associated graphics were designed, using air bubbles to present this.
This is where being a Wiki warrior exposes you.
Check out mmo2.
And I worked for them when they were Securicor Cellular Services! And it was always mmO2 when I saw it...
They were very keen to highlight it was the letter 'o' rather than a number due to fears of cybersquatting etc.
They paid a ridiculous amount on SEO etc.
mmO2 lasted what? 6 months tops? It rebranded to O2 the same year.
It lasted three years and would have lasted for even longer but for the Telefonica deal.
I'll let you into another little secret.
There was also a great debate about the accent on the name Telefonica.
The wirecard fraud in particular is absolutely incredible. They really need to make a big short style movie about it, but it might be thought that the plot is too unbelievable for punters to buy into e.g. hiring actors to pretend they are a bank in the Far East.
They still need to do one on Enron.
They sold the same asset 50 times over to group subsidiaries.
The asset was worth $200,000 at the start and after the 50 transactions in six month was worth $20,000,000.
And it was overvalued when it was sold for $200,000 and they did with so many 'assets'.
Obviously the next big one is all the cyptro sector. There is a YouTube guy whose whole channel is now pretty much exposing a new scam every day. There are now over 10k shit coins, i mean alt-coins.
The funny thing about that set of scams is that the whole basis of cryptocurrencies was supposed to be that the supply is limited.
I am seeing this as a hopeful sign. We are returning to normal, boring times. Brexit is over, now it is just post-Brexit bickering, which will fade. There won't be a Sindyref for many years. Even the pandemic is now dwindling in salience
We are left with partisan politics and, er, roaming charges.
The wirecard fraud in particular is absolutely incredible. They really need to make a big short style movie about it, but it might be thought that the plot is too unbelievable for punters to buy into e.g. hiring actors to pretend they are a bank in the Far East.
They still need to do one on Enron.
They sold the same asset 50 times over to group subsidiaries.
The asset was worth $200,000 at the start and after the 50 transactions in six month was worth $20,000,000.
And it was overvalued when it was sold for $200,000 and they did with so many 'assets'.
Obviously the next big one is all the cyptro sector. There is a YouTube guy whose whole channel is now pretty much exposing a new scam every day. There are now over 10k shit coins, i mean alt-coins, getting the pump and dump, rug pulls, money laundering, etc.
I was very depressed when I saw this news.
Formula 1 has today announced Crypto.com, the fastest-growing crypto platform with over 10 million users worldwide, as the inaugural global partner of the new Sprint series for 2021, with the first event at Silverstone on Saturday July 17th, at the Formula 1 Pirelli British Grand Prix.
The wirecard fraud in particular is absolutely incredible. They really need to make a big short style movie about it, but it might be thought that the plot is too unbelievable for punters to buy into e.g. hiring actors to pretend they are a bank in the Far East.
They still need to do one on Enron.
They sold the same asset 50 times over to group subsidiaries.
The asset was worth $200,000 at the start and after the 50 transactions in six month was worth $20,000,000.
And it was overvalued when it was sold for $200,000 and they did with so many 'assets'.
Obviously the next big one is all the cyptro sector. There is a YouTube guy whose whole channel is now pretty much exposing a new scam every day. There are now over 10k shit coins, i mean alt-coins, getting the pump and dump, rug pulls, money laundering, etc.
I was very depressed when I saw this news.
Formula 1 has today announced Crypto.com, the fastest-growing crypto platform with over 10 million users worldwide, as the inaugural global partner of the new Sprint series for 2021, with the first event at Silverstone on Saturday July 17th, at the Formula 1 Pirelli British Grand Prix.
The wirecard fraud in particular is absolutely incredible. They really need to make a big short style movie about it, but it might be thought that the plot is too unbelievable for punters to buy into e.g. hiring actors to pretend they are a bank in the Far East.
They still need to do one on Enron.
They sold the same asset 50 times over to group subsidiaries.
The asset was worth $200,000 at the start and after the 50 transactions in six month was worth $20,000,000.
And it was overvalued when it was sold for $200,000 and they did with so many 'assets'.
Obviously the next big one is all the cyptro sector. There is a YouTube guy whose whole channel is now pretty much exposing a new scam every day. There are now over 10k shit coins, i mean alt-coins, getting the pump and dump, rug pulls, money laundering, etc.
I was very depressed when I saw this news.
Formula 1 has today announced Crypto.com, the fastest-growing crypto platform with over 10 million users worldwide, as the inaugural global partner of the new Sprint series for 2021, with the first event at Silverstone on Saturday July 17th, at the Formula 1 Pirelli British Grand Prix.
Lambie-Nairn, the agency wot designed the logo, intended it to represent molecular oxygen (an allusion to the "necessity" of telecoms, presumably!), which is represented with a capital "O". Ergo, "O2".
The BT Cellnet consumer brand was renamed O2 - the chemical symbol for unbound oxygen - as were all the group's other businesses (other than Manx Telecom). The re-branding was designed by the Lambie-Nairn design agency, which developed the idea of the company supplying services that were essential, much the same as oxygen is essential for life. With this, the company logo and associated graphics were designed, using air bubbles to present this.
This is where being a Wiki warrior exposes you.
Check out mmo2.
And I worked for them when they were Securicor Cellular Services! And it was always mmO2 when I saw it...
They were very keen to highlight it was the letter 'o' rather than a number due to fears of cybersquatting etc.
They paid a ridiculous amount on SEO etc.
mmO2 lasted what? 6 months tops? It rebranded to O2 the same year.
It lasted three years and would have lasted for even longer but for the Telefonica deal.
I'll let you into another little secret.
There was also a great debate about the accent on the name Telefonica.
I'll let you into several little secrets:
BT shareholders voted to demerge Cellnet in October 2001, creating mmO2
mmO2 rebranded as O2 in May 2002.
The official name became O2 plc. in March 2005.
Oxygen is represented with a capital O.
Lambie-Nairn designed the logo after the oxygen molecule, O2.
Lambie-Nairn, the agency wot designed the logo, intended it to represent molecular oxygen (an allusion to the "necessity" of telecoms, presumably!), which is represented with a capital "O". Ergo, "O2".
The BT Cellnet consumer brand was renamed O2 - the chemical symbol for unbound oxygen - as were all the group's other businesses (other than Manx Telecom). The re-branding was designed by the Lambie-Nairn design agency, which developed the idea of the company supplying services that were essential, much the same as oxygen is essential for life. With this, the company logo and associated graphics were designed, using air bubbles to present this.
This is where being a Wiki warrior exposes you.
Check out mmo2.
And I worked for them when they were Securicor Cellular Services! And it was always mmO2 when I saw it...
They were very keen to highlight it was the letter 'o' rather than a number due to fears of cybersquatting etc.
They paid a ridiculous amount on SEO etc.
mmO2 lasted what? 6 months tops? It rebranded to O2 the same year.
It lasted three years and would have lasted for even longer but for the Telefonica deal.
I'll let you into another little secret.
There was also a great debate about the accent on the name Telefonica.
I'll let you into several little secrets:
BT shareholders voted to demerge Cellnet in October 2001, creating mmO2
mmO2 rebranded as O2 in May 2002.
The official name became O2 plc. in March 2005.
Oxygen is represented with a capital O.
Lambie-Nairn designed the logo after the oxygen molecule, O2.
Lambie-Nairn, the agency wot designed the logo, intended it to represent molecular oxygen (an allusion to the "necessity" of telecoms, presumably!), which is represented with a capital "O". Ergo, "O2".
The BT Cellnet consumer brand was renamed O2 - the chemical symbol for unbound oxygen - as were all the group's other businesses (other than Manx Telecom). The re-branding was designed by the Lambie-Nairn design agency, which developed the idea of the company supplying services that were essential, much the same as oxygen is essential for life. With this, the company logo and associated graphics were designed, using air bubbles to present this.
This is where being a Wiki warrior exposes you.
Check out mmo2.
And I worked for them when they were Securicor Cellular Services! And it was always mmO2 when I saw it...
They were very keen to highlight it was the letter 'o' rather than a number due to fears of cybersquatting etc.
They paid a ridiculous amount on SEO etc.
mmO2 lasted what? 6 months tops? It rebranded to O2 the same year.
It lasted three years and would have lasted for even longer but for the Telefonica deal.
I'll let you into another little secret.
There was also a great debate about the accent on the name Telefonica.
I'll let you into several little secrets:
BT shareholders voted to demerge Cellnet in October 2001, creating mmO2
mmO2 rebranded as O2 in May 2002.
The official name became O2 plc. in March 2005.
Oxygen is represented with a capital O.
Lambie-Nairn designed the logo after the oxygen molecule, O2.
I am seeing this as a hopeful sign. We are returning to normal, boring times. Brexit is over, now it is just post-Brexit bickering, which will fade. There won't be a Sindyref for many years. Even the pandemic is now dwindling in salience
We are left with partisan politics and, er, roaming charges.
I get us amateurs enjoying a pointless ego fight, but I'm less clear what people who want to be perceived as serious thinkers and commentators get out it, seems like whoever wins they would both end up looking like prats.
Just wondering if a Brexiteer wants to explain why roaming charges coming back is a good thing
There is a cost to roaming.
Why should those who aren't roaming shoulder the costs of those who are?
Why should people like TSE frequently going abroad and using a lot of roaming data, be paid for by those who are staying domestically and not accruing such costs?
Philip, I used to work for Vodafone.
There is no cost to Vodafone of you roaming from Vodafone UK onto Vodafone Germany, the costs are moved around the Group.
Have you considered that things may have moved on since you used to work for Vodafone?
Vodafone used to be quite ahead of the curve. They still don't any 5G coverage where I am and they're miles behind EE on rollout.
Maybe paying Vodafone Germany instead of paying for infrastructure in the UK, is not a productive use of Vodafone UK subscribers fees. Have you considered that?
Even when you have been soundly beaten you still have enough desire to throw that last flurry of punches after the bell. Respect.
I get us amateurs enjoying a pointless ego fight, but I'm less clear what people who want to be perceived as serious thinkers and commentators get out it, seems like whoever wins they would both end up looking like prats.
Those that get dragged into the world of twitter spats i think they lose their perception of such things. How many people have you now heard I finally came off twitter, i didn't realise what my life had become, i am so much happier now.
https://www.facebook.com/lambienairn/posts/1193226757455767 Lambie-Nairn July 31, 2017 "Great brands have a clear purpose at heart. When we developed the O2 brand, we set out do do things differently. Whilst everyone in the market was focussing on phone features, the O2’s customer was placed centre stage from the start. As lead branding agency working with our client for over 15 years, we couldn’t be prouder of the results so far."
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I can remember being assured by more than one leaver on here that mobile phone operators would definitely not be reintroducing roaming charges due to competitive pressure (or similar briefcase wanker terminology). Now that they have the position is being hastily recast to claim it's actually a good thing. Well done lads, your credibility is no way compromised.
Full disclosure, in a past job o2 were clients of ours.
Come to the red team!
I'm with EE and o2.
Vodafone really are shite oop North.
Always good to go with the network that works for you. Sadly O2 have a lot of capacity issues.
Prior to the advent of Wifi calling the only network that worked inside my house was o2. EE/Orange would be no bars.
I'm getting 500 Mbps speed with o2 5G in parts of Leeds, Sheffield, and Manchester.
EE set the record with over 800 Mbps for me though.
Fair enough, at the Oval the other day the only network that didn't work was O2 due to a lack of useable spectrum. EE and Vodafone were working fine.
O2 and Vodafone coverage is broadly the same due to Cornerstone, usually I find them the best indoors. EE wins on pure speed and will probably in the longer term be the best overall with the spectrum they've got plus the BT Group being intent on putting in lots of investment.
I think the Virgin deal is going to improve o2 (backhaul isn't it?)
I did some 5G tests around my workplace a few weeks ago
EE - 480 Mbps
o2 - 300 Mbps
Vodafone - 12 Mbps (on 4G)
O2/Vodafone 5G isn't shared. Vodafone is quite far behind on 5G roll out all over Europe and now they're betting on OpenRAN which is unproven at best. They made their bed with Huawei for 4G and now they need to spend shit loads ripping and replacing. Not just here but all across Europe too. I don't think Vodafone's 5G outside of London is going to be any good until the end of next year.
Vodafone 5G rollout in the UK is a lot wider than O2, I suspect it won’t last though.
I think 5G longer term O2 and EE will lead and Vodafone will suffer. They don’t seem to have purchased a lot of spectrum which I find puzzling.
There are rumours that Vodafone are looking for a buyer for their UK network now that they're never going to properly compete with Sky and Virgin Media. It could well be related to that.
There were rumours that Sky were trying to buy o2 a decade ago then the phone hacking story broke and put the kibosh on that. Did lead to Sky Mobile though.
There's rumours that T Mobile want to get back into the UK market.
Deutsch Telekom owns too much of BT to then bother around with buying some other network. I think a sale to Verizon Wireless of the US makes more sense, which would be a funny reversal of fortune.
I expect them to sell their share in BT to Patrick Drahi.
It amuses me that the BT Group is now valued less than the money they paid for EE in 2015.
Massive exercise of value destruction. Almost worse than Standard Life and Aberdeen. Though the latter is probably the worst merger of all time.
Lambie-Nairn, the agency wot designed the logo, intended it to represent molecular oxygen (an allusion to the "necessity" of telecoms, presumably!), which is represented with a capital "O". Ergo, "O2".
The BT Cellnet consumer brand was renamed O2 - the chemical symbol for unbound oxygen - as were all the group's other businesses (other than Manx Telecom). The re-branding was designed by the Lambie-Nairn design agency, which developed the idea of the company supplying services that were essential, much the same as oxygen is essential for life. With this, the company logo and associated graphics were designed, using air bubbles to present this.
This is where being a Wiki warrior exposes you.
Check out mmo2.
And this exposes you as a non-scientist. The chemical symbol for oxygen is a capital "O". And an oxygen molecule, consisting of two atoms, is therefore "O2".*
(* Of course, with the "2" subscript - can you do subscript on Vanilla?).
Simple question for you.
I worked over 800 hours when o2 was a client.
How many hours have you worked for them? Did they give you a style guide like they did for us?
Can you find a link with the branding that you are referring to? This is the only thing I can find for mmO2 and it looks like a capital O in that.
Though I also found an article in the paper of record that had them as MMO2, so that's clearly how history will remember them...
Full disclosure, in a past job o2 were clients of ours.
Come to the red team!
I'm with EE and o2.
Vodafone really are shite oop North.
Always good to go with the network that works for you. Sadly O2 have a lot of capacity issues.
Prior to the advent of Wifi calling the only network that worked inside my house was o2. EE/Orange would be no bars.
I'm getting 500 Mbps speed with o2 5G in parts of Leeds, Sheffield, and Manchester.
EE set the record with over 800 Mbps for me though.
Fair enough, at the Oval the other day the only network that didn't work was O2 due to a lack of useable spectrum. EE and Vodafone were working fine.
O2 and Vodafone coverage is broadly the same due to Cornerstone, usually I find them the best indoors. EE wins on pure speed and will probably in the longer term be the best overall with the spectrum they've got plus the BT Group being intent on putting in lots of investment.
I think the Virgin deal is going to improve o2 (backhaul isn't it?)
I did some 5G tests around my workplace a few weeks ago
EE - 480 Mbps
o2 - 300 Mbps
Vodafone - 12 Mbps (on 4G)
O2/Vodafone 5G isn't shared. Vodafone is quite far behind on 5G roll out all over Europe and now they're betting on OpenRAN which is unproven at best. They made their bed with Huawei for 4G and now they need to spend shit loads ripping and replacing. Not just here but all across Europe too. I don't think Vodafone's 5G outside of London is going to be any good until the end of next year.
Vodafone 5G rollout in the UK is a lot wider than O2, I suspect it won’t last though.
I think 5G longer term O2 and EE will lead and Vodafone will suffer. They don’t seem to have purchased a lot of spectrum which I find puzzling.
There are rumours that Vodafone are looking for a buyer for their UK network now that they're never going to properly compete with Sky and Virgin Media. It could well be related to that.
There were rumours that Sky were trying to buy o2 a decade ago then the phone hacking story broke and put the kibosh on that. Did lead to Sky Mobile though.
There's rumours that T Mobile want to get back into the UK market.
Deutsch Telekom owns too much of BT to then bother around with buying some other network. I think a sale to Verizon Wireless of the US makes more sense, which would be a funny reversal of fortune.
I expect them to sell their share in BT to Patrick Drahi.
It amuses me that the BT Group is now valued less than the money they paid for EE in 2015.
Massive exercise of value destruction. Almost worse than Standard Life and Aberdeen. Though the latter is probably the worst merger of all time.
AOL Time Warner is the worst merger in history.
It used to be Daimler Chrysler. A lesson to analysts in value destruction.
Successful mergers are rare beasts.
Meanwhile I'm on Three and I think they're great. Coverage everywhere I've been and, so far, no EU roaming charges planned.
One of the funniest stories about international travel I heard involved the DaimlerChrysler merger…
Just wondering if a Brexiteer wants to explain why roaming charges coming back is a good thing
There is a cost to roaming.
Why should those who aren't roaming shoulder the costs of those who are?
Why should people like TSE frequently going abroad and using a lot of roaming data, be paid for by those who are staying domestically and not accruing such costs?
Philip, I used to work for Vodafone.
There is no cost to Vodafone of you roaming from Vodafone UK onto Vodafone Germany, the costs are moved around the Group.
Have you considered that things may have moved on since you used to work for Vodafone?
Vodafone used to be quite ahead of the curve. They still don't any 5G coverage where I am and they're miles behind EE on rollout.
Maybe paying Vodafone Germany instead of paying for infrastructure in the UK, is not a productive use of Vodafone UK subscribers fees. Have you considered that?
Even when you have been soundly beaten you still have enough desire to throw that last flurry of punches after the bell. Respect.
Pricing strategies are only tangentially related to costs
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Possibly peak PB here with people outside the phone industry angrily telling people with experience of the phone industry about costs that don't exist to justify their views on Brexit.
Possibly peak PB here with people outside the phone industry angrily telling people with experience of the phone industry about costs that don't exist to justify their views on Brexit.
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We give the Yanks Prince Andrew and they give us Anne Sacoolas.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-58144499
Lambie-Nairn, the agency wot designed the logo, intended it to represent molecular oxygen (an allusion to the "necessity" of telecoms, presumably!), which is represented with a capital "O". Ergo, "O2".
Sadly, their founder, Martin Lambie-Nairn, who designed various BBC and C4 idents, died last December:
https://www.thedrum.com/news/2020/12/29/true-titan-branding-tributes-paid-iconic-ident-designer-martin-lambie-nairn
From Wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O2_(brand)#Branding
The BT Cellnet consumer brand was renamed O2 - the chemical symbol for unbound oxygen - as were all the group's other businesses (other than Manx Telecom). The re-branding was designed by the Lambie-Nairn design agency, which developed the idea of the company supplying services that were essential, much the same as oxygen is essential for life. With this, the company logo and associated graphics were designed, using air bubbles to present this.
Check out mmo2.
I notice on the cricket commentary tonight the NZ commentator said you can't book to get back into NZ now until next Feb, as no spare isolation hotel spaces until then!!!!! Next Feb that's crazy, even if you are a citizen you are now stranded overseas until then.
(* Of course, with the "2" subscript - can you do subscript on Vanilla?).
https://twitter.com/PhilipProudfoot/status/1424855879539646466?s=20
I'll come back for the AV thread.
Night all.
I worked over 800 hours when o2 was a client.
How many hours have you worked for them? Did they give you a style guide like they did for us?
I can assure you that the cost of roaming onto Vodafone Germany for a Vodafone UK customer is zero, as is the case the other way round
And it was always mmO2 when I saw it...
Genuine question is it just coincidence that both German, or is there some specific weakness there?
They paid a ridiculous amount on SEO etc.
Plus Prince Andrew has not been accused of full rape but the lesser charge of sexual abuse in a civil lawsuit
https://www.wsj.com/articles/after-wirecard-germanys-proposed-audit-overhaul-worries-finance-executives-11617868813
But they aren't confined to Germany.
KPMG criticised for ‘unacceptable’ bank audits by UK regulator
https://www.ft.com/content/fedd96fc-780d-4ddb-85c2-6d41dc2025ab
They sold the same asset 50 times over to group subsidiaries.
The asset was worth $200,000 at the start and after the 50 transactions in six month was worth $20,000,000.
And it was overvalued when it was sold for $200,000 and they did with so many 'assets'.
Oxygen is represented with a capital O.
Lambie-Nairn designed the logo after the oxygen molecule, O2.
I'll let you into another little secret.
There was also a great debate about the accent on the name Telefonica.
I am seeing this as a hopeful sign. We are returning to normal, boring times. Brexit is over, now it is just post-Brexit bickering, which will fade. There won't be a Sindyref for many years. Even the pandemic is now dwindling in salience
We are left with partisan politics and, er, roaming charges.
GOOD
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https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.formula-1-announce-crypto-com-as-inaugural-global-partner-of-the-f1-sprint.ozYI9zd0622tZyvroYhcM.html
To be able to sponsor F1 means you have really money which means...
BT shareholders voted to demerge Cellnet in October 2001, creating mmO2
mmO2 rebranded as O2 in May 2002.
The official name became O2 plc. in March 2005.
Oxygen is represented with a capital O.
Lambie-Nairn designed the logo after the oxygen molecule, O2.
mmo2 is still around.
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/04190833
But I'm off to bed now, you can do all your google and wiki searches but for those of us who worked for o2 at the time know what we're talking about.
I'll email Mark Evans, I have still have his private email address and you can talk to him.
And I have Ronan Dunne's as well.
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/04190833
And don't forget:
Oxygen is represented with a capital O.
Lambie-Nairn designed the logo after the oxygen molecule, O2
Ta!
https://www.o2.co.uk/why-o2
(yes I know the "o" is small case is in the URL, but a lot of sites use small case in their URLs!)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1663487.stm
By early 2002 when we started working for them they were internally using o2 and instructing us to use o2.
But like Sunil you know more about o2 than Ronan Dunne.
As people were searching for 02 at the time.
Go and ask Lambie-Nairn, who designed the logo.
Lambie-Nairn
July 31, 2017
"Great brands have a clear purpose at heart. When we developed the O2 brand, we set out do do things differently. Whilst everyone in the market was focussing on phone features, the O2’s customer was placed centre stage from the start. As lead branding agency working with our client for over 15 years, we couldn’t be prouder of the results so far."
⚽️ They say they work for a convicted criminal.
⚽️ The story should end here.
⚽️ It doesn’t.
⚽️ Discover how the men #SellingFootball wash dirty money through the beautiful game.
THREAD 👇🧵 https://t.co/qUy0EWIHPp
Samuelson also claims Chinese investor, Tony Xia, who bought @AVFCOfficial in 2016 was a front for an unknown investor.
He says he doesn’t know where his client’s money really came from.
#SellingFootball https://t.co/5UqE99NwVC
https://twitter.com/AJIunit/status/1424847506626777096?s=19
https://s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/centaur-wp/marketingweek/prod/content/uploads/2001/10/c1bca90f-6f91-4eb5-8611-b8b59b9c764f.jpg
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1525000/images/_1528919_newlogo.jpg
Though I also found an article in the paper of record that had them as MMO2, so that's clearly how history will remember them...
Some poor analyst had a horrific flight
If the charge is “had sex with me when I was below the age of consent” then it matters.
If something else then it may be less relevant
That is a despicable edit of @HYUFD ’s post. As a lawyer you should know better.
Roaming charges are not a hidden fee.
If firms wish to offer free roaming, they obviously can. But if they wish not to, that should be their choice too.
https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1424744371551973380?s=20
What an incredible end to the thread.
Chef kiss.