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  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,408

    MaxPB said:

    An NHS London source - the new health secretary is giving "unnecessarily tough" scrutiny to the data models being provided by SAGE and other advisory bodies. He expects that Javid will ram through full reopening on July 19th regardless of the numbers and expect the NHS to "just cope" with whatever happens.

    He's not a happy bunny.

    ‘Bout feckin’ time the models got some hard scrutiny.
    Such as https://twitter.com/RP131/status/1410264076551327747
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Neil Henderson
    @hendopolis
    YORKSHIRE POST: I will not quit if we lose poll, says Starmer #TomorrowsPapersToday

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1410343494804180993

    That doesn’t display overwhelming confidence
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,854
    tlg86 said:

    Also I found Rochester quite depressed considering it is a traditional city

    Town.
    Got a cathedral, no?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,647
    Pulpstar said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Another @TheSun belter…

    YOB LOSES JOB: Chris Whitty attack yob sacked from his job as an estate agent


    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15448426/chris-whitty-attack-yob-loses-job/

    "I feel very let down by Boris, for him to call me a thug. I actually voted for him as well."

    :lol:
    That's a big price he's paid, losing his job. I think everyone should move on from the incident now.
    They were at an anti-vax march.

    Absolutely deserve what has come their way.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,647
    Yeah Fulham aren't getting promoted this season, more likely to get relegated.

    Fulham reach provisional agreement with Marco Silva to replace Scott Parker

    https://theathletic.com/news/fulham-marco-silva-new-manager/QkSyFgDbYCLC
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

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    *What* Did Deutsche Do?

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,104

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    New government regulations released.
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518
    Gnud said:

    BigRich said:

    How many of the cases we're picking up are asymptomatic?

    image

    As its mostly in young people and a very large propotion of the cases are Asyptomatic.

    The the UKs mass testing in schools collages and University's. is probably a big factor in the number of cases.
    Yes, that will skew things enormously. But is there not a good estimate of the number of current cases in the country, whether tested or not? Surely there must be. There must be a capability for getting a good estimate of that number (and an assessment of distribution geographically and demographically) for biowar defence reasons as well as health provision in peacetime. I wonder what the CFR for delta is when "C" is estimated like that, rather than obtained with false precision by totting up positive test results. "Confirmed cases" isn't such a useful statistic really.
    I think the issue isn’t that we don’t have reasonable estimates in the U.K. it’s the suspicion that we aren’t quite the European outlier that the case numbers would suggest.
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,492
    Gnud said:

    BigRich said:

    How many of the cases we're picking up are asymptomatic?

    image

    As its mostly in young people and a very large propotion of the cases are Asyptomatic.

    The the UKs mass testing in schools collages and University's. is probably a big factor in the number of cases.
    Yes, that will skew things enormously. But is there not a good estimate of the number of current cases in the country, whether tested or not? Surely there must be. There must be a capability for getting a good estimate of that number (and an assessment of distribution geographically and demographically) for biowar defence reasons as well as health provision in peacetime. I wonder what the CFR for delta is when "C" is estimated like that, rather than obtained with false precision by totting up positive test results. "Confirmed cases" isn't such a useful statistic really.
    the ONS does random samplings of people to estimate the number of people in the general population with COVID each week, however there is a time lag in the repotting of this number.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Scott_xP said:

    Another @TheSun belter…

    YOB LOSES JOB: Chris Whitty attack yob sacked from his job as an estate agent


    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15448426/chris-whitty-attack-yob-loses-job/

    He's from Essex and an estate agent.

    Can you get any lower?
    A banker from Sheffield?
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 3,883
    easiest in human history
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    IshmaelZ said:

    Write a horror story for your industry using just four words...

    Asteroid on collision course?

    Education Secretary Gavin Williamson
    Prime Minister Gavin Williamson?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,853
    alex_ said:

    MaxPB said:

    An NHS London source - the new health secretary is giving "unnecessarily tough" scrutiny to the data models being provided by SAGE and other advisory bodies. He expects that Javid will ram through full reopening on July 19th regardless of the numbers and expect the NHS to "just cope" with whatever happens.

    He's not a happy bunny.

    What on earth is “unnecessarily tough” when you consider what has been enacted, justifiably or otherwise, on the back of these models over the past 15 months? They should welcome such challenge, if it hasn’t been happening before. The scientists are always keen to emphasise that they advise, politicians decide. Well if you expect politicians to follow your advice then you’d better be damn prepared to defend it robustly.

    Now if he’s just blithely dismissing all modelling and telling them that he will do what he wasn’t s regardless, then that’s a different issue. But robust challenge that make them uncomfortable? Tough.
    He didn't say, just that people at the top of the NHS are worried that he's ignoring the data modelling because the models have had inconsistent results. Basically from what I could tell Javid is asking the same questions anyone who is data literate has been asking for months and the scientists are struggling to answer and are now briefing the NHS bods who will in turn go running to the media this weekend about how Javid is going to put the NHS at risk etc...
  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146

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  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,647
    edited June 2021
    Charles said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Another @TheSun belter…

    YOB LOSES JOB: Chris Whitty attack yob sacked from his job as an estate agent


    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15448426/chris-whitty-attack-yob-loses-job/

    He's from Essex and an estate agent.

    Can you get any lower?
    A banker from Sheffield?
    I resent the implication that I am a banker (sic).

    I work in regulatory affairs.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,104

    IshmaelZ said:

    Write a horror story for your industry using just four words...

    Asteroid on collision course?

    Education Secretary Gavin Williamson
    Prime Minister Gavin Williamson?
    That's not a horror story for an industry, it's the premise of a dystopic novel.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,695
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  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,362

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Fishing said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    Ok, votes for weirdly good regional or National cuisines

    (I’m bored but drunk and happy)

    My three

    1. Without question: the solovetsky islands of the White Sea. A microclimate. Everything grown there. Cattle that live on salt grass. Dill. Omg. The best fish and chips ever

    2. The seafood of east anglia

    3. Calabria. The home of nduja. Desperately poor but the local and highly violent mafia recruit the best chefs. Or kidnap them

    Go to any Taiwanese night market. Eat from the stall with the biggest crowd.
    Ooh. Good call. I’ve heard Taiwanese food is superb. It makes sense. Chinese with money!

    The food in Singapore is generally brilliant. Malaysia might have the best cuisine in the world I reckon - an incredible mix of Chinese, Thai and Indian, possibly superior to Vietnam
    Malaysian food is great. Suriname has amazing food for similar reasons - mix of European, Creole, Javanese, Indian and Chinese. Trinidadian rotis and doubles are some of the best street food I've ever eaten, washed down with plenty of cold beers at Carnival. But Sri Lanka has the best food I've ever eaten. Everything there is amazing.
    How weird. I had generally terrible food in Sri Lanka. And we tried everywhere. Not just tourist traps. It was so bad we made an extra effort. But no. The best we got was an ok curry with an egg on top

    Whereas almost anywhere in India you get great food

    However so many people have taken your position I think we were just very unlucky

    Fascinating about Surinam. I have yet to find a South American country with good food. Perhaps that is it.

    Mexico, bewilderingly, is great
    Why is it bewildering? Mexican is one of the world's great cuisines, if a little salty at times.

    Brazilian food is pretty good, and the steaks and pasta in Argentina are of course first class.
    Bewildering because food throughout Latin America is terrible - and it is, despite the steaks in Buenos Aires - but Mexico has a magnificent and multivarious cuisine. An exception which proves the rule

    I don’t know how to explain it. Ok Mexico is massive with much climate variation and an ancient culture. But all this is true of Peru, and Peruvian food is dreadful, despite a couple of trendy restaurants in Lima, and ceviche (which is wildly overrated)

    And then there is Cuba. Oh my fucking giddy aunt. Possibly the worst food in the world
    In Colombia ajiaco is a very rich and satisfying soup/stew. Bandeja paisa is like an English breakfast with avocado and rice. The fruit juices are incredible from literally hundreds of different fruits many of which like lulu feijoa and guanavana are rarely seen outside the country.
    I've never been to Colombia (would dearly like to go) but one of my favourite travel books EVER is The Fruit Palace

    https://www.amazon.com/Fruit-Palace-Charles-Nicholl-author/dp/0099274043

    Probably very dated now (travel writing often dates quicker than comedy) but a gorgeous book - and particularly good on the wild variety of tropical fruit in Colombia
    It is a beautiful country and lovely people. But not a good time to go right now. The police have been killing dozens of peaceful protesters and vigilante gangs killing with impunity. The president is a puppet of ex presideny Uribe and the regime makes Pinochet look like a saint.
    It is not so long ago that i remember visiting Colombia and seeing the incessant groups of broken refugees fleeing Venezuela when Corbyn and his cronies held it up as an example of successful socialism.
    Well those of us on the right of the spectrum who may have mocked this naivety are now sickened by the cruelty of the right wing regime in Colombia which in many ways is much worse.
    So much of South America should be amazing, and so much isn’t. It is a stark contrast with North America and - to be jingoistic - rare for me - reflects very well on British imperialism and very badly on the Iberian version. I accept that indigenous peoples in both continents might quite violently disagree


    Chile is the sanest place in South America. It shows the way forward. Still got shite food tho
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,647
    EXCL: Supporters of Angela Rayner are canvassing support from MPs and trade unions in the hope she challenges Keir Starmer for the leadership post-Batley

    Unite is among trade unions ready to support her if she pulls the trigger

    https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1410354453992153088
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,996
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Fishing said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    Ok, votes for weirdly good regional or National cuisines

    (I’m bored but drunk and happy)

    My three

    1. Without question: the solovetsky islands of the White Sea. A microclimate. Everything grown there. Cattle that live on salt grass. Dill. Omg. The best fish and chips ever

    2. The seafood of east anglia

    3. Calabria. The home of nduja. Desperately poor but the local and highly violent mafia recruit the best chefs. Or kidnap them

    Go to any Taiwanese night market. Eat from the stall with the biggest crowd.
    Ooh. Good call. I’ve heard Taiwanese food is superb. It makes sense. Chinese with money!

    The food in Singapore is generally brilliant. Malaysia might have the best cuisine in the world I reckon - an incredible mix of Chinese, Thai and Indian, possibly superior to Vietnam
    Malaysian food is great. Suriname has amazing food for similar reasons - mix of European, Creole, Javanese, Indian and Chinese. Trinidadian rotis and doubles are some of the best street food I've ever eaten, washed down with plenty of cold beers at Carnival. But Sri Lanka has the best food I've ever eaten. Everything there is amazing.
    How weird. I had generally terrible food in Sri Lanka. And we tried everywhere. Not just tourist traps. It was so bad we made an extra effort. But no. The best we got was an ok curry with an egg on top

    Whereas almost anywhere in India you get great food

    However so many people have taken your position I think we were just very unlucky

    Fascinating about Surinam. I have yet to find a South American country with good food. Perhaps that is it.

    Mexico, bewilderingly, is great
    Why is it bewildering? Mexican is one of the world's great cuisines, if a little salty at times.

    Brazilian food is pretty good, and the steaks and pasta in Argentina are of course first class.
    Bewildering because food throughout Latin America is terrible - and it is, despite the steaks in Buenos Aires - but Mexico has a magnificent and multivarious cuisine. An exception which proves the rule

    I don’t know how to explain it. Ok Mexico is massive with much climate variation and an ancient culture. But all this is true of Peru, and Peruvian food is dreadful, despite a couple of trendy restaurants in Lima, and ceviche (which is wildly overrated)

    And then there is Cuba. Oh my fucking giddy aunt. Possibly the worst food in the world
    In Colombia ajiaco is a very rich and satisfying soup/stew. Bandeja paisa is like an English breakfast with avocado and rice. The fruit juices are incredible from literally hundreds of different fruits many of which like lulu feijoa and guanavana are rarely seen outside the country.
    I've never been to Colombia (would dearly like to go) but one of my favourite travel books EVER is The Fruit Palace

    https://www.amazon.com/Fruit-Palace-Charles-Nicholl-author/dp/0099274043

    Probably very dated now (travel writing often dates quicker than comedy) but a gorgeous book - and particularly good on the wild variety of tropical fruit in Colombia
    I was friends for a time with his son at school in Hereford. Will Nicholl. Wonder what he’s doing now.

    I remember reading the book to see what Will’s dad did in his youth, and it was…enlightening.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,104
    RobD said:

    MaxPB said:

    An NHS London source - the new health secretary is giving "unnecessarily tough" scrutiny to the data models being provided by SAGE and other advisory bodies. He expects that Javid will ram through full reopening on July 19th regardless of the numbers and expect the NHS to "just cope" with whatever happens.

    He's not a happy bunny.

    I hadn't realised "unnecessarily tough" was a synonym for "some".
    It's like management buzzspeak - people will say they want to be open and transparent, or decentralise, or welcome scrutiny or whatever, because that's what you're supposed to say, but no one really means it.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,021

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  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,647
    FFS.

    Footballers from amber list countries have been exempted from quarantine rules in a controversial move aimed at allowing Premier League clubs to play friendlies against sides from abroad.

    Sportsmail can reveal that legislation has been passed which will open the door for overseas teams to head to these shores without the requirement for 10-day self-isolation faced by the public.

    The top flight has been in discussions with the Football Association and Department for Culture, Media and Sport, with clubs desperate to take on sides from overseas as part of their pre-season preparations.

    Currently, members of the public heading to the UK from an amber list country have to quarantine for 10 days and take two Covid tests. Should similar rules have applied to footballers it would have made friendly matches impossible.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9742885/Top-Premier-League-clubs-allowed-play-pre-season-friendlies-against-foreign-sides.html
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,668
    @hzeffman
    EXCL: Supporters of Angela Rayner are canvassing support from MPs and trade unions in the hope she challenges Keir Starmer for the leadership post-Batley

    Unite is among trade unions ready to support her if she pulls the trigger


    https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1410354453992153088
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,679
    isam said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Another @TheSun belter…

    YOB LOSES JOB: Chris Whitty attack yob sacked from his job as an estate agent


    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15448426/chris-whitty-attack-yob-loses-job/

    "I feel very let down by Boris, for him to call me a thug. I actually voted for him as well."

    :lol:
    That's a big price he's paid, losing his job. I think everyone should move on from the incident now.
    I just watched the vid for the first time - annoying drunken pricks, but they weren’t violent or threatening were they? It would be intimidating I guess, but to get sacked is indeed a big price to pay
    What is it about estate agents? I always had it down as a sedate profession. One of them once smashed Liam Gallagher's teeth out.

    https://www.contactmusic.com/liam-gallagher/news/gallagher-beaten-up-by-estate-agents
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,647

    @hzeffman
    EXCL: Supporters of Angela Rayner are canvassing support from MPs and trade unions in the hope she challenges Keir Starmer for the leadership post-Batley

    Unite is among trade unions ready to support her if she pulls the trigger


    https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1410354453992153088

    Too slow.
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518

    FFS.

    Footballers from amber list countries have been exempted from quarantine rules in a controversial move aimed at allowing Premier League clubs to play friendlies against sides from abroad.

    Sportsmail can reveal that legislation has been passed which will open the door for overseas teams to head to these shores without the requirement for 10-day self-isolation faced by the public.

    The top flight has been in discussions with the Football Association and Department for Culture, Media and Sport, with clubs desperate to take on sides from overseas as part of their pre-season preparations.

    Currently, members of the public heading to the UK from an amber list country have to quarantine for 10 days and take two Covid tests. Should similar rules have applied to footballers it would have made friendly matches impossible.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9742885/Top-Premier-League-clubs-allowed-play-pre-season-friendlies-against-foreign-sides.html

    Have they not noticed this little tournament going on with lots of games at Wembley called “Euro 2020”?
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,846

    IshmaelZ said:

    Write a horror story for your industry using just four words...

    Asteroid on collision course?

    Education Secretary Gavin Williamson
    Prime Minister Gavin Williamson?
    I hadn't realised that Williamson was the source of a particularly pernicious rumour about Cummings and Gove.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/my-husband-s-gay-affair-with-gove
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,695

    FFS.

    Footballers from amber list countries have been exempted from quarantine rules in a controversial move aimed at allowing Premier League clubs to play friendlies against sides from abroad.

    Sportsmail can reveal that legislation has been passed which will open the door for overseas teams to head to these shores without the requirement for 10-day self-isolation faced by the public.

    The top flight has been in discussions with the Football Association and Department for Culture, Media and Sport, with clubs desperate to take on sides from overseas as part of their pre-season preparations.

    Currently, members of the public heading to the UK from an amber list country have to quarantine for 10 days and take two Covid tests. Should similar rules have applied to footballers it would have made friendly matches impossible.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9742885/Top-Premier-League-clubs-allowed-play-pre-season-friendlies-against-foreign-sides.html

    C'mon man! The dreaded lurgy is spreading by the week and we are unlocking even more in two weeks whatever the figures show. The policy is get vaccinated or get covid, or get both.

    Might as well let some footy players come too.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    IshmaelZ said:

    Write a horror story for your industry using just four words...

    Asteroid on collision course?

    Education Secretary Gavin Williamson
    Prime Minister Gavin Williamson?
    You’re just trawling for likes…
  • glwglw Posts: 9,906
    edited June 2021
    alex_ said:

    What on earth is “unnecessarily tough” when you consider what has been enacted, justifiably or otherwise, on the back of these models over the past 15 months? They should welcome such challenge, if it hasn’t been happening before. The scientists are always keen to emphasise that they advise, politicians decide. Well if you expect politicians to follow your advice then you’d better be damn prepared to defend it robustly.

    Now if he’s just blithely dismissing all modelling and telling them that he will do what he wasn’t s regardless, then that’s a different issue. But robust challenge that make them uncomfortable? Tough.

    In the US many prestigious universities and national laboratories produced models of the pandemic that were not even as good as simply extrapolating the current trends. i.e. A layman would have outperformed many of the expert groups.

    The idea that a model should go unchallenged because of who produced it is completely nuts. If a modeller can't wind the clock back on their model and do a half-decent job of predicting what happened, within reasonable margins, as many models have failed to do, they need to bin their model and produce something better, or maybe even seek other employment.
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,492
    MaxPB said:

    An NHS London source - the new health secretary is giving "unnecessarily tough" scrutiny to the data models being provided by SAGE and other advisory bodies. He expects that Javid will ram through full reopening on July 19th regardless of the numbers and expect the NHS to "just cope" with whatever happens.

    He's not a happy bunny.

    It would be much safer IMHO to just open up fully now.

    If we assume that there is a remote possibility that fully opening will lead to the WOW increases going for 70% to 700%, I'm pretty shore this will not happen, but in the words of the late Rumsfeld, Known Unknowns and all that.

    well if its going to go to 700% or whatever, it would be better to start that off with todays number of cases, not let it rise for another 2 weeks probably more than double and then have the risk of 700% increases.

    This idea that we have to be shore we never need to lockdown again is just silly, if its going to overwhelm the NHS, then ok Lockdown, then. If you really mean never end restrictions until we know they will never be needed again, that's really just a new way of saying Zero-Covid, because we will never be in that position, we don't know how fast it will rise until we lift and we never know if it will mutate it to an ever worse strain so long as one person has it.
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518

    IshmaelZ said:

    Write a horror story for your industry using just four words...

    Asteroid on collision course?

    Education Secretary Gavin Williamson
    Prime Minister Gavin Williamson?
    I hadn't realised that Williamson was the source of a particularly pernicious rumour about Cummings and Gove.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/my-husband-s-gay-affair-with-gove
    Williamson’s continued presence in the Cabinet can only surely date back to his time as Chief Whip. If he’s perfectly prepared to spread gossip and false rumour that he’s picked up about Conservative MPs for political and/or personal gain, then he’s hardly likely to hold back on anything genuinely true and scandalous.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    Charles said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Write a horror story for your industry using just four words...

    Asteroid on collision course?

    Education Secretary Gavin Williamson
    Prime Minister Gavin Williamson?
    You’re just trawling for likes…
    World King Gavin Williamson?
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    IshmaelZ said:

    Write a horror story for your industry using just four words...

    Asteroid on collision course?

    Education Secretary Gavin Williamson
    Prime Minister Gavin Williamson?
    I hadn't realised that Williamson was the source of a particularly pernicious rumour about Cummings and Gove.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/my-husband-s-gay-affair-with-gove
    I remember when it was rumoured that Lennox Lewis and Sol Campbell were having a gay relationship; one of my mates said ‘Fuck me, imagine the size of the kids!”
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,853

    Charles said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Write a horror story for your industry using just four words...

    Asteroid on collision course?

    Education Secretary Gavin Williamson
    Prime Minister Gavin Williamson?
    You’re just trawling for likes…
    World King Gavin Williamson?
    Now you just sound like you want the world to burn.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    edited June 2021

    Charles said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Write a horror story for your industry using just four words...

    Asteroid on collision course?

    Education Secretary Gavin Williamson
    Prime Minister Gavin Williamson?
    You’re just trawling for likes…
    World King Gavin Williamson?
    Ok, you get one for sheer chutzpa
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,647
    I thought The Italian Job was set in Turin, not Rome?


  • rpjsrpjs Posts: 3,787
    Foxy said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Lots of cities have had a face lift..... which major UK one hasn't or has been done so poorly its still a shit hole?

    Coventry.
    Plymouth.
    Portsmouth.
    Bradford, as in "We hit the enemy bunker with GBU-47s then went back and bradforded it with our miniguns until nothing moved."
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    MaxPB said:

    Charles said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Write a horror story for your industry using just four words...

    Asteroid on collision course?

    Education Secretary Gavin Williamson
    Prime Minister Gavin Williamson?
    You’re just trawling for likes…
    World King Gavin Williamson?
    Now you just sound like you want the world to burn.
    Gavin Caesar Augustus Williamson?
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,492

    @hzeffman
    EXCL: Supporters of Angela Rayner are canvassing support from MPs and trade unions in the hope she challenges Keir Starmer for the leadership post-Batley

    Unite is among trade unions ready to support her if she pulls the trigger


    https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1410354453992153088

    As unite is in the midal of an election for a new leader, anybody who is saying that the union is ready to support ..... in an election is just making stuff up, IMHO
  • eekeek Posts: 28,378
    Charles said:

    Charles said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Write a horror story for your industry using just four words...

    Asteroid on collision course?

    Education Secretary Gavin Williamson
    Prime Minister Gavin Williamson?
    You’re just trawling for likes…
    World King Gavin Williamson?
    Ok, you get one for sheer chutzpa
    Galactic Overlord Gavin Williamson (coming soon to a knock-off Marvel trilogy)
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,695
    edited June 2021
    rpjs said:

    Foxy said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Lots of cities have had a face lift..... which major UK one hasn't or has been done so poorly its still a shit hole?

    Coventry.
    Plymouth.
    Portsmouth.
    Bradford, as in "We hit the enemy bunker with GBU-47s then went back and bradforded it with our miniguns until nothing moved."
    It is some time since I was last in Bradford. Not really inspired to return.

    Nottingham is a lot grottier than it was 3 decades ago.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,695
    BigRich said:

    @hzeffman
    EXCL: Supporters of Angela Rayner are canvassing support from MPs and trade unions in the hope she challenges Keir Starmer for the leadership post-Batley

    Unite is among trade unions ready to support her if she pulls the trigger


    https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1410354453992153088

    As unite is in the midal of an election for a new leader, anybody who is saying that the union is ready to support ..... in an election is just making stuff up, IMHO
    As an ex shop steward herself, Rayner is likely to get a lot of support from the unions.

    I am very green on Rayner.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,672
    Vaccine resistant strain spreads.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,567
    Working on my Batley and Spen prediction at the moment. Not easy.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,409

    I thought The Italian Job was set in Turin, not Rome?


    One for the kids there...
  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146
    dixiedean said:

    I thought The Italian Job was set in Turin, not Rome?


    One for the kids there...
    Does anyone under 50 buy a newspaper?
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,672
    dixiedean said:

    I thought The Italian Job was set in Turin, not Rome?


    One for the kids there...
    The media reaction to England winning is nuts even by its own low standards. Something very tired about it.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,195
    Andy_JS said:

    Working on my Batley and Spen prediction at the moment. Not easy.

    Will St0rmer pull it out the bag ?
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518

    I thought The Italian Job was set in Turin, not Rome?


    Not sure the basic plot of The Italian Job is quite the analogy we want for a match in which we are overwhelming favourites and expected on paper to win quite comfortably.

  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,528
    edited June 2021

    dixiedean said:

    I thought The Italian Job was set in Turin, not Rome?


    One for the kids there...
    Does anyone under 50 buy a newspaper?
    Or know who Harry Caine is?
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    alex_ said:

    I thought The Italian Job was set in Turin, not Rome?


    Not sure the basic plot of The Italian Job is quite the analogy we want for a match in which we are overwhelming favourites and expected on paper to win quite comfortably.

    I think spelling Kane’s name as Caine is unnecessary
  • eekeek Posts: 28,378
    pointless fact

    25% of the 1st pick Goalkeepers left in the European Championship made their professional debuts with Darlington Football Club
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,409
    edited June 2021
    alex_ said:

    I thought The Italian Job was set in Turin, not Rome?


    Not sure the basic plot of The Italian Job is quite the analogy we want for a match in which we are overwhelming favourites and expected on paper to win quite comfortably.

    We'll be left teetering on the precipice of disaster?
    As a dishonest, wildly over ambitious and optimistic plan in Europe goes tits up?
    It's not an analogy for a match, it is State of the Nation stuff.
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518

    dixiedean said:

    I thought The Italian Job was set in Turin, not Rome?


    One for the kids there...
    Does anyone under 50 buy a newspaper?
    Or know who Harry Caine is?
    Does anyone over 50 know who Harry Caine is?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,195
    Some jump in spanish cases today. Wonder if it's a backfill blip or the start of a delta driven wave.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,050
    Jonathan said:

    Vaccine resistant strain spreads.

    Where?
  • eekeek Posts: 28,378
    Leon actually isn't SeanT
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    eek said:

    Leon actually isn't SeanT

    LOL - riiight
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Pulpstar said:

    Some jump in spanish cases today. Wonder if it's a backfill blip or the start of a delta driven wave.

    From the Telegraph

    France facing fourth wave as Europe races to vaccinate against delta surge
    Germany's delta share doubling by the week, and Italy warns variant is likely to become dominant
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,672

    Jonathan said:

    Vaccine resistant strain spreads.

    Where?
    Four words.
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518

    Jonathan said:

    Vaccine resistant strain spreads.

    Where?
    We’re doing “horror story headlines for your industry”
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,567

    dixiedean said:

    I thought The Italian Job was set in Turin, not Rome?


    One for the kids there...
    Does anyone under 50 buy a newspaper?
    I do. I got addicted to them when I was about 10.
  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146
    eek said:

    Leon actually isn't SeanT

    Is that your 4 word fuck business suggestion?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,050
    edited June 2021
    Jonathan said:

    Jonathan said:

    Vaccine resistant strain spreads.

    Where?
    Four words.
    Gotcha.....and I was the one who started the game. Duh.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,195
    alex_ said:

    Jonathan said:

    Vaccine resistant strain spreads.

    Where?
    We’re doing “horror story headlines for your industry”
    UK redlisted everywhere else.
  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146
    New York Times: ‘Northern Ireland Is Coming to an End’

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/30/opinion/northern-ireland-centenary.html
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,567
    Daisy McAndrew doing the paper review on GB News.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,695

    The ‘story’ on the front page of @thetimes tomorrow is news to me.

    https://twitter.com/AngelaRayner/status/1410359438796537857?s=19

    Pity.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,528

    Leon said:




    I've never been to Colombia (would dearly like to go) but one of my favourite travel books EVER is The Fruit Palace

    https://www.amazon.com/Fruit-Palace-Charles-Nicholl-author/dp/0099274043

    Probably very dated now (travel writing often dates quicker than comedy) but a gorgeous book - and particularly good on the wild variety of tropical fruit in Colombia

    It is a beautiful country and lovely people. But not a good time to go right now. The police have been killing dozens of peaceful protesters and vigilante gangs killing with impunity. The president is a puppet of ex presideny Uribe and the regime makes Pinochet look like a saint.
    It is not so long ago that i remember visiting Colombia and seeing the incessant groups of broken refugees fleeing Venezuela when Corbyn and his cronies held it up as an example of successful socialism.
    Well those of us on the right of the spectrum who may have mocked this naivety are now sickened by the cruelty of the right wing regime in Colombia which in many ways is much worse.
    It's been bad in different ways for a long time, hasn't it? I went over there for my first post-MP job (2013 or so), invited to speak in the Senate when they weren't in formal session. That was fine, but Bogota felt damaged and slightly sinister - though I've never been sure if that was because I knew about the death squads and terrorism and was projecting that onto people innocently going shopping.

    By contrast I really liked Mexico City, though SeanT at the time urged me to get out fast, as there was a lot of violence in the background there too.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,930

    New York Times: ‘Northern Ireland Is Coming to an End’

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/30/opinion/northern-ireland-centenary.html

    Let me guess, Brexit Britain bad.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,528
    Charles said:

    Neil Henderson
    @hendopolis
    YORKSHIRE POST: I will not quit if we lose poll, says Starmer #TomorrowsPapersToday

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1410343494804180993

    That doesn’t display overwhelming confidence
    What's he supposed to say? "We're gonna win, man." could be disproved in hours, making him look silly. "No comment" would be reported as "Doesn't rule out".
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,810
    dixiedean said:

    Scott_xP said:

    MaxPB said:

    An NHS London source - the new health secretary is giving "unnecessarily tough" scrutiny to the data models being provided by SAGE and other advisory bodies. He expects that Javid will ram through full reopening on July 19th regardless of the numbers and expect the NHS to "just cope" with whatever happens.

    He's not a happy bunny.

    🔴Exclusive: Almost 50 Conservative MPs have told Boris Johnson that schools must return to normal from July 19, as they called for an end to “unnecessary disruption”
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/30/exclusive-schools-must-return-normal-july-19-tory-mps-warn-boris/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1625085738
    Won't they be returning to normal by, erm,.closing for 6 weeks on July 19?
    1) My daughters' schools will have at least a week still at school after July 19.

    2) Anecdotally, one of the reasons for school closures is some of the less scrupulous teachers are going out of their way to get pinged - finding someone with covid and waving their phone in their general direction. Bingo, ten days off. Not all teachers, obviously - but it only takes five or six in a school to cause serious problems.
  • ExiledInScotlandExiledInScotland Posts: 1,529
    edited June 2021

    Write a horror story for your industry using just four words...

    Stack Overflow is gone.

    Wife realises I've retired

    Edit: Well a horror story for me, not necessarily for my industry
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 4,935
    Foxy said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Lots of cities have had a face lift..... which major UK one hasn't or has been done so poorly its still a shit hole?

    Coventry.
    Plymouth.
    Portsmouth.
    Aberdeen.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,059

    New York Times: ‘Northern Ireland Is Coming to an End’

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/30/opinion/northern-ireland-centenary.html

    Says the NY Times which has always been ideologically anti Brexit and pro a United Ireland.

    In the small print of the article however the polling still shows most Northern Irish voters are still happy to stay in the UK
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,810

    Write a horror story for your industry using just four words...

    Stack Overflow is gone.

    Wife realises I've retired

    Ha - very good.

    Mine is:

    Everyone: Work from home.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,050
    edited June 2021
    Make of this what you will...probably not a good idea to speculate.....I don't wish to end up with Carole Conspiracy in court.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9742903/Entrepreneur-offered-images-Matt-Hancocks-clinch-aide-journalist-five-days-before.html
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 4,935

    Write a horror story for your industry using just four words...

    Asteroid on collision course?

    Write a horror story for your industry using just four words...

    Stack Overflow is gone.

    The Financial Conduct Authority.
  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146
    Eight-storey union flag planned for Cardiff UK-government building

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-politics-57667929

    Screams insecurity.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,810
    Foxy said:

    rpjs said:

    Foxy said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Lots of cities have had a face lift..... which major UK one hasn't or has been done so poorly its still a shit hole?

    Coventry.
    Plymouth.
    Portsmouth.
    Bradford, as in "We hit the enemy bunker with GBU-47s then went back and bradforded it with our miniguns until nothing moved."
    It is some time since I was last in Bradford. Not really inspired to return.

    Nottingham is a lot grottier than it was 3 decades ago.
    Bradford is much nicer than it was twelve years ago. Basically they've knocked down all the ugly buildings, leaving only fine Victoriana and numerous well kept new public open spaces. Quite radical, really, and very successful.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,050
    I presume not available in their Middle Eastern stores.....

    IKEA unveils quirky Pride-themed couches inspired by different LGBTQ+ identities

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9742417/IKEA-debuts-whimsical-new-Pride-themed-couches-inspired-different-LGBTQ-identity.html
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,695
    HYUFD said:

    New York Times: ‘Northern Ireland Is Coming to an End’

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/30/opinion/northern-ireland-centenary.html

    Says the NY Times which has always been ideologically anti Brexit and pro a United Ireland.

    In the small print of the article however the polling still shows most Northern Irish voters are still happy to stay in the UK
    The writing is on the wall though. The NYT is right, there will be no bicentenary for NI.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,528
    Gnud said:

    Another straw in the wind to make of what you will: Labour has now spoken to EVERY Batley and Spen voter for whom we have phone numbers. I resumed phoning this evening and after a few (including 2 don't-know to Labour switchers, yay) I got the message that everyone had now been called.

    This has to be a lot more than the Galloway effort. I think it's now really come down to a Tory-Labour battle and Galloway is marginalised.

    Can you fill us in on how Labour campaign managers believe Labour will fare tomorrow? I was intrigued by Mike's final paragraph in the header. Can Labour realistically hold this seat?

    Maybe GG would be more likely to beat 7%, denting Labour something rotten, had Anne Marie Waters of For Britain put up more of a showing, helped by her pal Tommy Robinson, and had Muslim voters in the constituency considered themselves to be under threat rather than incensed by SKS's not being good on Palestine. Good for almost everyone not on the extreme right (or GG) that this hasn't happened. Could Friday's news be "damp squib; no big swings from anyone to anyone else; Labour hold"?
    I'm not in direct touch with the campaign managers, so can only offer my view. It's possible - I actually think that 5-10% chance report is accurate. It requires several things. Galloway implodes (quite likely). The Muslim vote mostly turns out loyally for Labour (hmm). Tories voters are underwhelmed by their invisible candidate and stay at home (doubtful). Kim's personal vote is even bigger than we thought (quite likely). The LibDem/Green vote mostly comes over (very likely). The Woolens stay at home or go Waters (possible).

    I think we'll come reasonably close but no cigar - 47-42-6? Could be wildly out.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,021
    Cookie said:

    Write a horror story for your industry using just four words...

    Stack Overflow is gone.

    Wife realises I've retired

    Ha - very good.

    Mine is:

    Everyone: Work from home.
    You work for Pret?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,059
    edited June 2021
    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    New York Times: ‘Northern Ireland Is Coming to an End’

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/30/opinion/northern-ireland-centenary.html

    Says the NY Times which has always been ideologically anti Brexit and pro a United Ireland.

    In the small print of the article however the polling still shows most Northern Irish voters are still happy to stay in the UK
    The writing is on the wall though. The NYT is right, there will be no bicentenary for NI.
    No it isn't the writing is only on the wall amongst diehard Remainers who are desperate to break up the UK.

    Ignoring the fact every constituency in county Antrim for example not only has a DUP MP but also voted Leave, they will never accept rule from Dublin
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,911
    Andy_JS said:

    Daisy McAndrew doing the paper review on GB News.

    GB News is still having streaming problems, now during the adverts. I have seen this with ITV as well. Perhaps adverts are played in from a different server.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,409

    Eight-storey union flag planned for Cardiff UK-government building

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-politics-57667929

    Screams insecurity.

    How unpatriotic. What's wrong with nine storeys? Ten?
    This one goes up to eleven.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,810

    Cookie said:

    Write a horror story for your industry using just four words...

    Stack Overflow is gone.

    Wife realises I've retired

    Ha - very good.

    Mine is:

    Everyone: Work from home.
    You work for Pret?
    Ha - almost! Public transport.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,059

    Eight-storey union flag planned for Cardiff UK-government building

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-politics-57667929

    Screams insecurity.

    Screams proud Unionism, taking the fight to Nationalist secessionists like you
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,810

    Eight-storey union flag planned for Cardiff UK-government building

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-politics-57667929

    Screams insecurity.

    Scot Nat questions use of flags? *cough*
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    HYUFD said:

    Eight-storey union flag planned for Cardiff UK-government building

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-politics-57667929

    Screams insecurity.

    Screams proud Unionism, taking the fight to Nationalist secessionists like you
    With Unionists like you, who needs Nationalists?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,930
    dixiedean said:

    Eight-storey union flag planned for Cardiff UK-government building

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-politics-57667929

    Screams insecurity.

    How unpatriotic. What's wrong with nine storeys? Ten?
    This one goes up to eleven.
    Don’t want to get the bottom dirty, do we?
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Sky are really pushing adverts for The Hundred.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,059
    edited June 2021

    HYUFD said:

    Eight-storey union flag planned for Cardiff UK-government building

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-politics-57667929

    Screams insecurity.

    Screams proud Unionism, taking the fight to Nationalist secessionists like you
    With Unionists like you, who needs Nationalists?
    You are being a Nat appeaser, not even prepared to fight for our precious Union
  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146
    dixiedean said:

    Eight-storey union flag planned for Cardiff UK-government building

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-politics-57667929

    Screams insecurity.

    How unpatriotic. What's wrong with nine storeys? Ten?
    This one goes up to eleven.
    They’ll be buying a toupee, Viagra and an E-type soon as they try to stave off their inevitable impotency.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,911

    Make of this what you will...probably not a good idea to speculate.....I don't wish to end up with Carole Conspiracy in court.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9742903/Entrepreneur-offered-images-Matt-Hancocks-clinch-aide-journalist-five-days-before.html

    Didn't we already know this? There were hints of anti-lockdown involvement even last Friday. Since the Mail does not name anyone, what is the point?
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