Sam Coates Sky @SamCoatesSky · 1h New Health Secretary Sajid Javid says his priority is “that we return to normal as soon and as quickly as possible”
Promising start.
Hopefully he is completely zero-covid free.
Hope so, I do think that when the 4 week extension was announced, it has some words about a possible early end of Monday the 5 July, I do hope that that happens.
I consider that highly unlikely. The Government has been making no noises about speeding the process up, and the non-loopy, non-ISAGE faction of the scientists still want us to have the full month to get more people jabbed. Besides which, an early finish would require an announcement tomorrow, to give that week for affected businesses to prepare to open up that we've had for the previous phases. No sign of that coming.
You are probably right, sadly this is most likely to be another of my dashed hopes,
However based of the Covid Dashboards, we have almost 40% ish of 18-24 year olds jabbed, and are jabbing at a rate of 2% a day, given that only 60 ish % of over 30-34 are jabbed, I expect it to max out at about the same level i.e. in about 10 days, so what then? 16 and 17 Year olds, fine, but that will not take long, then what? maybe open a week early?
1st doses are increasing at a pretty steady 0.4% per day, so we've a reasonable chance of hitting 90% of the adult population by July 12th. 90% is important because I think, based on the polling evidence, that this will be around the level at which we hit the wall of refusers; July 12th is important because that is the date on which we should expect the announcement that the rules are going a week later. So, everything slots together for unlocking on the 19th. It's the date that's been trailed by ministers and it appears to satisfy most of the scientists.
Sam Coates Sky @SamCoatesSky · 1h New Health Secretary Sajid Javid says his priority is “that we return to normal as soon and as quickly as possible”
Promising start.
Hopefully he is completely zero-covid free.
Hope so, I do think that when the 4 week extension was announced, it has some words about a possible early end of Monday the 5 July, I do hope that that happens.
I consider that highly unlikely. The Government has been making no noises about speeding the process up, and the non-loopy, non-ISAGE faction of the scientists still want us to have the full month to get more people jabbed. Besides which, an early finish would require an announcement tomorrow, to give that week for affected businesses to prepare to open up that we've had for the previous phases. No sign of that coming.
You are probably right, sadly this is most likely to be another of my dashed hopes,
However based of the Covid Dashboards, we have almost 40% ish of 18-24 year olds jabbed, and are jabbing at a rate of 2% a day, given that only 60 ish % of over 30-34 are jabbed, I expect it to max out at about the same level i.e. in about 10 days, so what then? 16 and 17 Year olds, fine, but that will not take long, then what? maybe open a week early?
1st doses are increasing at a pretty steady 0.4% per day, so we've a reasonable chance of hitting 90% of the adult population by July 12th. 90% is important because I think, based on the polling evidence, that this will be around the level at which we hit the wall of refusers; July 12th is important because that is the date on which we should expect the announcement that the rules are going a week later. So, everything slots together for unlocking on the 19th. It's the date that's been trailed by ministers and it appears to satisfy most of the scientists.
I’m assuming that at some point we’ll reach 105%
One thing on the first dose/second dose thing. We hear about 2 doses being necessary for full protection. But is that just a consequence of the first dose prioritisation policy and the first dose wearing off? Or that one dose isn’t actually that effective between eg. 2 and 4 weeks?
Is Rog trying to claim advertising industry is morally virtuous place, who only ever speak the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about products...crickey....i am not sure i have ever seen a fast food ad say well this over priced junk won't look anything like this, will taste pretty shit and is full of salt and fat and is generally really bad for your healthy...which will only have you singing I'm not really luv'ing it....
Don't think he's saying that at all, just that advertising is fairly well regulated through ASA, & if you're found to be lying you'll get pulled up for it. In a previous job I discovered that they're like a dog with a bone, particularly if (as in our case) they have one of the great and the good making the complaint.
Is Rog trying to claim advertising industry is morally virtuous place, who only ever speak the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about products...crickey....i am not sure i have ever seen a fast food ad say well this over priced junk won't look anything like this, will taste pretty shit and is full of salt and fat and is generally really bad for your healthy...which will only have you singing I'm not really luv'ing it....
Don't think he's saying that at all, just that advertising is fairly well regulated through ASA, & if you're found to be lying you'll get pulled up for it. In a previous job I discovered that they're like a dog with a bone, particularly if (as in our case) they have one of the great and the good making the complaint.
In politics, this happens not so much.
There is loads of deceptive and shady advertising....ASA punishment seems mostly to be please take that down...that is if they aren't too busy worrying about gender stereotyping and diversity in ads.
Gloriously brutal question. Gloriously weasley response from Brandon "what border" Lewis. As I said earlier I couldn't be a front line politician having to defend the indefensible like that.
Seems a bit cruel to Lewis to make him the patsy sent round to stonewall a story like this, and also be NI Secretary. He's paid his dues serving as the latter.
Being of an almost exactly similar background myself (Ilford and Southend rather than Romford and Brentwood) I know I shouldn't be prejudiced, but I did wonder why they had apparently put a used car salesman on to talk about Handycock.
As a high ranking government minister you have to presume somebody is spying on you most of the time. Foreign powers aren't doing their jobs very well if they aren't.
When you know the Americans spied on Merkel for years, you have to presume somebody will be taking some interest in your goings on.
Gloriously brutal question. Gloriously weasley response from Brandon "what border" Lewis. As I said earlier I couldn't be a front line politician having to defend the indefensible like that.
Seems a bit cruel to Lewis to make him the patsy sent round to stonewall a story like this, and also be NI Secretary. He's paid his dues serving as the latter.
Being of an almost exactly similar background myself (Ilford and Southend rather than Romford and Brentwood) I know I shouldn't be prejudiced, but I did wonder why they had apparently put a used car salesman on to talk about Handycock.
Handy extra job experience for Hancock’s paramour. … She was also a director at the press consultancy Luther Pendragon, which specialises in crisis and reputation management.…
The Tory Party has already had two leaders from an ethnic minority - in 1868 and 2003.
The Liberals and Labour have one each - 1931 and 2010.
I think you mean the first *non-white* leader which is not quite the same thing.
To the extent Jews are an ethnic minority, yes, but that is a controversial question in the Jewish community. It might be easier just to say they were Jewish, and fudge whether that means by religion, ethnicity or community. Disraeli was our first (and only) Jewish Prime Minister, but he regarded himself as Anglican. His family was Jewish, but his family was also Italian and no-one says Disraeli was Britain's first Italian Prime Minister.
He was also quite happy to call himself a Jew when he wished, as when he withered Daniel O’Connell for his anti-Semitic remarks by commenting ‘when your ancestors were painted blue with woad, mine were priests in the Temples of Solomon.’
The assumption that being Jewish is somehow incompatible with being Anglican is ... interesting and rather (not quite of the correct word) bizarre.
The 12 disciples did not suddenly stop being Jewish when they followed Jesus.
Elements of modern society are really, really clueless on religion.
Is Rog trying to claim advertising industry is morally virtuous place, who only ever speak the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about products...crickey....i am not sure i have ever seen a fast food ad say well this over priced junk won't look anything like this, will taste pretty shit and is full of salt and fat and is generally really bad for your healthy...which will only have you singing I'm not really luv'ing it....
Don't think he's saying that at all, just that advertising is fairly well regulated through ASA, & if you're found to be lying you'll get pulled up for it. In a previous job I discovered that they're like a dog with a bone, particularly if (as in our case) they have one of the great and the good making the complaint.
In politics, this happens not so much.
There is loads of deceptive and shady advertising....ASA punishment seems mostly to be please take that down...that is if they aren't too busy worrying about gender stereotyping and diversity in ads.
A regulatory body that was e.g. able to ask Vote Leave to take down their lies that Turkey ‘is’ joining the EU might be an improvement on what currently exists.
I have some sympathy with Cummings on this. The Saj was not great as Chancellor during his brief spell. I remember a financial statement where he was consistently told off for spending nearly all of his time attacking Labour by the Speaker. It was, frankly, an embarrassingly poor effort. He seemed out of his depth in a way that Rishi simply doesn't, notwithstanding having a similar background in finance.
He's clearly not stupid and we can only hope that he has learned from that experience but social care in particular is going to need a much more conciliatory approach since any long term solution will ideally be cross party. I am not sure on the basis of his previous experience that that is his style.
Personally, I would rather have had Hunt back if he had been willing to do it. He probably has a better grip of these issues than anyone in government and has kept on top of them with his select committee role. Zahawi would have been another possibility. What Boris clearly wanted was someone who would slot in with no other reshuffle at this point and the Saj does achieve that. I hope I am wrong in this but Health and Social Care Secretary is going to be at least the third most important job in the government after PM and Chancellor over the next couple of years. I am not completely convinced Javid is the man for that.
You are making the mistake of analysing Johnson's government in conventional terms. Clearly I took this too far yesterday when I declared that Hancock would not go, due to Johnson's debasement of our political culture, but I think a much more important aspect to Javid's return is that Carrie was once one of his special advisors and, since the palace coup that ousted Cummings, a personal connection to Mrs PM is of far greater importance than the trifling details of being on top of his brief, or able to make a decent fist of a statement to the Commons.
You are making a different mistake, focusing on why the appointment was made rather than thinking about whether he will be any good at it. I think the Carrie connection has probably helped him but so has being a loyal foot soldier ever since he quit, never joining the awkward squad. Hunt has been a bit more equivocal in his committee role and personal loyalty is very, very important to Boris.
Howard Beckett firmly believes the Saj has been brought in just to sell off the NHS..
Another loony head of Unite.no Govt could survive that.
Howard Beckett has stood down from the leadership election ... presumably even Unite members can't stomach £2m+ of their money being spaffed away due to a leader's vanity.
Is Rog trying to claim advertising industry is morally virtuous place, who only ever speak the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about products...crickey....i am not sure i have ever seen a fast food ad say well this over priced junk won't look anything like this, will taste pretty shit and is full of salt and fat and is generally really bad for your healthy...which will only have you singing I'm not really luv'ing it....
Don't think he's saying that at all, just that advertising is fairly well regulated through ASA, & if you're found to be lying you'll get pulled up for it. In a previous job I discovered that they're like a dog with a bone, particularly if (as in our case) they have one of the great and the good making the complaint.
In politics, this happens not so much.
There is loads of deceptive and shady advertising....ASA punishment seems mostly to be please take that down...that is if they aren't too busy worrying about gender stereotyping and diversity in ads.
A regulatory body that was e.g. able to ask Vote Leave to take down their lies that Turkey ‘is’ joining the EU might be an improvement on what currently exists.
But they were candidate members, so technically true? Of course the timescale was a bit misleading.
Is Rog trying to claim advertising industry is morally virtuous place, who only ever speak the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about products...crickey....i am not sure i have ever seen a fast food ad say well this over priced junk won't look anything like this, will taste pretty shit and is full of salt and fat and is generally really bad for your healthy...which will only have you singing I'm not really luv'ing it....
Don't think he's saying that at all, just that advertising is fairly well regulated through ASA, & if you're found to be lying you'll get pulled up for it. In a previous job I discovered that they're like a dog with a bone, particularly if (as in our case) they have one of the great and the good making the complaint.
In politics, this happens not so much.
There is loads of deceptive and shady advertising....ASA punishment seems mostly to be please take that down...that is if they aren't too busy worrying about gender stereotyping and diversity in ads.
A regulatory body that was e.g. able to ask Vote Leave to take down their lies that Turkey ‘is’ joining the EU might be an improvement on what currently exists.
Is Rog trying to claim advertising industry is morally virtuous place, who only ever speak the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about products...crickey....i am not sure i have ever seen a fast food ad say well this over priced junk won't look anything like this, will taste pretty shit and is full of salt and fat and is generally really bad for your healthy...which will only have you singing I'm not really luv'ing it....
Don't think he's saying that at all, just that advertising is fairly well regulated through ASA, & if you're found to be lying you'll get pulled up for it. In a previous job I discovered that they're like a dog with a bone, particularly if (as in our case) they have one of the great and the good making the complaint.
In politics, this happens not so much.
There is loads of deceptive and shady advertising....ASA punishment seems mostly to be please take that down...that is if they aren't too busy worrying about gender stereotyping and diversity in ads.
A regulatory body that was e.g. able to ask Vote Leave to take down their lies that Turkey ‘is’ joining the EU might be an improvement on what currently exists.
Well given you can't do TV political advertising in the UK, billboards nobody really takes any notice off, its all about online And with online and ability to run 1000s of different variants every day targetting different people, its really an impossible task. As soon as you have released it, people share it across social media and its a game of whack a mole, but of course it then just gets shared by the likes of Whatsapp.
There is deceptive and misleading stuff by the bucket load created by supporters of parties every day without for even the need for central coordination. The old dodgy doctor who runs Tory Fibs being a classic example, who has had to make numerous apologies for when really has crossed the line, let alone all the spin / half truths.
The Tory Party has already had two leaders from an ethnic minority - in 1868 and 2003.
The Liberals and Labour have one each - 1931 and 2010.
I think you mean the first *non-white* leader which is not quite the same thing.
To the extent Jews are an ethnic minority, yes, but that is a controversial question in the Jewish community. It might be easier just to say they were Jewish, and fudge whether that means by religion, ethnicity or community. Disraeli was our first (and only) Jewish Prime Minister, but he regarded himself as Anglican. His family was Jewish, but his family was also Italian and no-one says Disraeli was Britain's first Italian Prime Minister.
He was also quite happy to call himself a Jew when he wished, as when he withered Daniel O’Connell for his anti-Semitic remarks by commenting ‘when your ancestors were painted blue with woad, mine were priests in the Temples of Solomon.’
The assumption that being Jewish is somehow incompatible with being Anglican is ... interesting and rather (not quite of the correct word) bizarre.
The 12 disciples did not suddenly stop being Jewish when they followed Jesus.
Which takes us back to the question of whether being Jewish is a matter of ethnicity or religion, or culture, or birth, or whatever. The point is there is no settled answer. Probably the best approach is to smudge it with fudge. Almost all of the time it does not matter. As to the disciples, there was no established Christian church so the question is moot, except for students of theological history.
ETA it was brought up today only because someone wondered if Rishi or Priti or The Saj might be our first BAME Prime Minister, and that led to the question of whether they'd been scooped by Disraeli.
O/T - Australia seems to have a real problem. Astra is their main vaccine but nobody wants it. Some of the discussions sound like U.K. April 20 (“Policemen moving people on for sitting on park benches!”). Contact tracing appears to be on the verge of reaching it’s limit (how many “venues of concern” becomes unmanageable?).
They must really hope it hasn’t spread far more than they are picking up.
Obviously they are far better off than almost everywhere is objective terms. But when the entire country has got used to the zero Covid mindset...
Does Australia have a problem with people not wanting the vaccine? (at leased any more that other Weston nations e.g. the UK and USA)
I heard somebody say that about both Australia and NZ on here a few weeks ago, but when I talked to my family in NZ they are adamant that there is no big anti vax thing, just slow in getting hold of vaccines in big numbers. and looked a some NZ news outlets, and nothing there.
Australia and New Zealand are different and it may be that what's happening on one is not the same as the other. But, I think its probably the case that Australia has vaccinated less of its population than other Weston nations mostly because of the late and low supply, even if Anti Vaz sentiment by some, has not helped.
Australia's problem seems to be that it has AZ but most people do not want AZ.
Now that's not a problem if Australia can keep Delta out until it has vaccinated with Pfizer.
But if Delta gets in (as it has) and proves uncontrollable (which we will see in the next few weeks) then it will have Delta rampaging around a country with little vaccination and almost zero acquired immunity.
I strongly suspect Delta is now uncontrollable within Sydney - it's just too easily infectious
I hope that's too pessimistic. A lockdown is a lockdown. A more infectious variant can't magically overcome the absence of social mixing.
Ultimately this pandemic will only end when you have sufficient herd immunity, either from acquired protection or a vaccine. Otherwise you will continually be bouncing between varying levels of restrictions (often quite suddenly imposed) and in the case of Oz and NZ, draconian border measures.
A burst of delta in Australia might wake them up a bit over there that they can’t keep it out forever and instead they need to get themselves vaxxed.
Well yes. One interesting feature of the Sydney "lockdown" is that sporting events outdoors continue with 50% capacity. Something we don't routinely have here as of yet. Test events apart.
Well there was a great Covid experiment yesterday in the west end - tens of thousands of unvaccinated people marching for freedom. The next ten days will be interesting
Well there was a great Covid experiment yesterday in the west end - tens of thousands of unvaccinated people marching for freedom. The next ten days will be interesting
That was the small-scale rehearsal, for opening the nightclubs of Ibiza on July 1st.
Well there was a great Covid experiment yesterday in the west end - tens of thousands of unvaccinated people marching for freedom. The next ten days will be interesting
I think as we have seen from the test events in the UK, transmission is still very very low outdoors....but personally I am still going to be giving large crowds a miss for a bit.
When we have 70-80% of adults double jabbed, the outdoors will be essentially zero, even in crowds...presuming we don't get super super super mutant variant.
Can’t believe no one is exploring the whole “Coladangelo is Bob Wilson’s niece” angle to this story
I’ve been trying to verify if this is true or someone’s idea of a joke.
Shades of Bob Holness and the sax solo on Baker Street. Otoh, Grant Shapps really is a cousin of someone who used to be in The Clash.
The obscure trivia question to which the answer is genuinely Bob Holness: “Who was the first British actor to portray the character James Bond?”
Barry Nelson, in a TV play of Casino Royale.
Except that he was an American actor, yes.
Barry Nelson Bob Holness Sean Connery.
Ah. Misread the question.
Amusing given I spend all my time telling teenagers ‘always read the question’...
Of all the advice I was given at school, that's probably been the most useful to me in my professional life. You don't generally get any credit for answering a question you haven't been asked, unless you're a politician in an interview of course.
Is Rog trying to claim advertising industry is morally virtuous place, who only ever speak the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about products...crickey....i am not sure i have ever seen a fast food ad say well this over priced junk won't look anything like this, will taste pretty shit and is full of salt and fat and is generally really bad for your healthy...which will only have you singing I'm not really luv'ing it....
Don't think he's saying that at all, just that advertising is fairly well regulated through ASA, & if you're found to be lying you'll get pulled up for it. In a previous job I discovered that they're like a dog with a bone, particularly if (as in our case) they have one of the great and the good making the complaint.
In politics, this happens not so much.
There is loads of deceptive and shady advertising....ASA punishment seems mostly to be please take that down...that is if they aren't too busy worrying about gender stereotyping and diversity in ads.
A regulatory body that was e.g. able to ask Vote Leave to take down their lies that Turkey ‘is’ joining the EU might be an improvement on what currently exists.
Sam Coates Sky @SamCoatesSky · 1h New Health Secretary Sajid Javid says his priority is “that we return to normal as soon and as quickly as possible”
Promising start.
Hopefully he is completely zero-covid free.
Hope so, I do think that when the 4 week extension was announced, it has some words about a possible early end of Monday the 5 July, I do hope that that happens.
I consider that highly unlikely. The Government has been making no noises about speeding the process up, and the non-loopy, non-ISAGE faction of the scientists still want us to have the full month to get more people jabbed. Besides which, an early finish would require an announcement tomorrow, to give that week for affected businesses to prepare to open up that we've had for the previous phases. No sign of that coming.
You are probably right, sadly this is most likely to be another of my dashed hopes,
However based of the Covid Dashboards, we have almost 40% ish of 18-24 year olds jabbed, and are jabbing at a rate of 2% a day, given that only 60 ish % of over 30-34 are jabbed, I expect it to max out at about the same level i.e. in about 10 days, so what then? 16 and 17 Year olds, fine, but that will not take long, then what? maybe open a week early?
1st doses are increasing at a pretty steady 0.4% per day, so we've a reasonable chance of hitting 90% of the adult population by July 12th. 90% is important because I think, based on the polling evidence, that this will be around the level at which we hit the wall of refusers; July 12th is important because that is the date on which we should expect the announcement that the rules are going a week later. So, everything slots together for unlocking on the 19th. It's the date that's been trailed by ministers and it appears to satisfy most of the scientists.
You are probably right about the timing of the reopening,
But, I think the rate of first jabs will start to drop soon, 10 days I recon, maybe a bit less, I'm largely basing that on the age bracket data, who's been jabbed and at what rate each age group is being jabbed. where in 11 days the 18-24 year olds will be more vaccinated than the 30-34 year olds are now, But also looking aw wales, they got to 88% on 15th June but have only been jabbing 0.1% most days since then. England at the moment is jabbing up to vaccine capacity, (at least in most places,) but soon that will drop off, there will be people coming late to the party, as in Israel, and wales, and some areas are further from that point than overs,
We will probably get to 90% eventually, but 86-88% in the next 10 ish days then, then a long drown out process maybe a month to get to 90%
He's bloke in Mississippi who regularly engaged with the journalist, kept on engaging in Covid/vaccine scepticism, citing people like Trump and GOP Governors for his beliefs, and now he is dead from Covid-19.
O/T - Australia seems to have a real problem. Astra is their main vaccine but nobody wants it. Some of the discussions sound like U.K. April 20 (“Policemen moving people on for sitting on park benches!”). Contact tracing appears to be on the verge of reaching it’s limit (how many “venues of concern” becomes unmanageable?).
They must really hope it hasn’t spread far more than they are picking up.
Obviously they are far better off than almost everywhere is objective terms. But when the entire country has got used to the zero Covid mindset...
Does Australia have a problem with people not wanting the vaccine? (at leased any more that other Weston nations e.g. the UK and USA)
I heard somebody say that about both Australia and NZ on here a few weeks ago, but when I talked to my family in NZ they are adamant that there is no big anti vax thing, just slow in getting hold of vaccines in big numbers. and looked a some NZ news outlets, and nothing there.
Australia and New Zealand are different and it may be that what's happening on one is not the same as the other. But, I think its probably the case that Australia has vaccinated less of its population than other Weston nations mostly because of the late and low supply, even if Anti Vaz sentiment by some, has not helped.
Australia's problem seems to be that it has AZ but most people do not want AZ.
Now that's not a problem if Australia can keep Delta out until it has vaccinated with Pfizer.
But if Delta gets in (as it has) and proves uncontrollable (which we will see in the next few weeks) then it will have Delta rampaging around a country with little vaccination and almost zero acquired immunity.
I strongly suspect Delta is now uncontrollable within Sydney - it's just too easily infectious
I hope that's too pessimistic. A lockdown is a lockdown. A more infectious variant can't magically overcome the absence of social mixing.
Ultimately this pandemic will only end when you have sufficient herd immunity, either from acquired protection or a vaccine. Otherwise you will continually be bouncing between varying levels of restrictions (often quite suddenly imposed) and in the case of Oz and NZ, draconian border measures.
A burst of delta in Australia might wake them up a bit over there that they can’t keep it out forever and instead they need to get themselves vaxxed.
Well yes. One interesting feature of the Sydney "lockdown" is that sporting events outdoors continue with 50% capacity. Something we don't routinely have here as of yet. Test events apart.
Yep - it's not a "lockdown" by any UK definition which I suspect means Delta is going to sweep through Sydney over the next 3 weeks.
Jess Phillips MP @jessphillips · 1h Hope my husband doesn't start putting me first Matt Hancock style.
It can only be a matter of time before 'Hancock' joins the lexicon of terms to describe...
1.sex at work. ( a quick Hancock) 2.bottom squeezing (a Hancock) 3. being caught on a hidden camera at work (being Hancocked) 4. being fired for any of the above (been Hancocked)
None of them well catered for (at the moment) by the English language
(Jess Phillips for Labour leader-if they can't get Marina Hyde)
My CLP is getting much better speakers (and viewer figures) in monthly online sessions than we did when they had to trek down to Godalming to talk, and Jess's talk a couple of months ago easily topped the list. She's a bit too centrist for my ideal preference, but she is perhaps the closest we've got to Johnson's cheerful sarcasm that is part of his appeal. I could be won over by her.
I have to ask. "A bit centrist" = Jess Phillips? You were an MP in a time where there was a Labour government. I assume your ambition for colleagues is that they be denied the same privilege as you want a Labour party where Jess is too far to the right to be mainstream...
Clause 1 of the Labour Party constitution states that the aim of the party is to promote the election of Labour representatives. How does this balance off against the left's desire for MPs where Zarah Sultana, Laura Pidcock and Rickie Dickie Burgon are the pinnacle of intellectual and political nous?
Well, I'm not in favour of Burgon for leader either. I voted for Keir, and think he still has potential. It's a balance, as often discussed here - most people in politics want a combination of electable leaders and leaders who have agendas which they find appealing. My criticism of some centrists is that they tend to confuse moderation with lack of policy (just as the far left tend to mistake ideas that they like for electoral appeal). I have little interest in electing a Labour government that does nothing except not be a Tory government. Nor, as we currently see, is centrism necessarily a key to success. The public like to see some concrete ideas too. We should be able instantly to answer the question "What is your party for?" And that applies to your current LibDem home too.
So yes, I think Jess is potentially a good foil for Boris Johnson. I'd like to hear what she'd like to do, though.
He's bloke in Mississippi who regularly engaged with the journalist, kept on engaging in Covid/vaccine scepticism, citing people like Trump and GOP Governors for his beliefs, and now he is dead from Covid-19.
That's very sad and all, but if you are a sceptic you probably also not exactly taking steps to minimise your potential exposure and thus.surely just a matter of time until you catch it.
To be honest, anti-vaxxers convince themselves most of the time. There’s a lot of orange man bad in that thread. Remember, this was Nancy Pelosi last February:
O/T - Australia seems to have a real problem. Astra is their main vaccine but nobody wants it. Some of the discussions sound like U.K. April 20 (“Policemen moving people on for sitting on park benches!”). Contact tracing appears to be on the verge of reaching it’s limit (how many “venues of concern” becomes unmanageable?).
They must really hope it hasn’t spread far more than they are picking up.
Obviously they are far better off than almost everywhere is objective terms. But when the entire country has got used to the zero Covid mindset...
Does Australia have a problem with people not wanting the vaccine? (at leased any more that other Weston nations e.g. the UK and USA)
I heard somebody say that about both Australia and NZ on here a few weeks ago, but when I talked to my family in NZ they are adamant that there is no big anti vax thing, just slow in getting hold of vaccines in big numbers. and looked a some NZ news outlets, and nothing there.
Australia and New Zealand are different and it may be that what's happening on one is not the same as the other. But, I think its probably the case that Australia has vaccinated less of its population than other Weston nations mostly because of the late and low supply, even if Anti Vaz sentiment by some, has not helped.
Australia's problem seems to be that it has AZ but most people do not want AZ.
Now that's not a problem if Australia can keep Delta out until it has vaccinated with Pfizer.
But if Delta gets in (as it has) and proves uncontrollable (which we will see in the next few weeks) then it will have Delta rampaging around a country with little vaccination and almost zero acquired immunity.
I strongly suspect Delta is now uncontrollable within Sydney - it's just too easily infectious
I hope that's too pessimistic. A lockdown is a lockdown. A more infectious variant can't magically overcome the absence of social mixing.
Ultimately this pandemic will only end when you have sufficient herd immunity, either from acquired protection or a vaccine. Otherwise you will continually be bouncing between varying levels of restrictions (often quite suddenly imposed) and in the case of Oz and NZ, draconian border measures.
A burst of delta in Australia might wake them up a bit over there that they can’t keep it out forever and instead they need to get themselves vaxxed.
Well yes. One interesting feature of the Sydney "lockdown" is that sporting events outdoors continue with 50% capacity. Something we don't routinely have here as of yet. Test events apart.
Yep - it's not a "lockdown" by any UK definition which I suspect means Delta is going to sweep through Sydney over the next 3 weeks.
Sydney needs an actual lockdown, in the same way as the rest of the world did last March. Go home, and stay home. It might be too late already.
O/T - Australia seems to have a real problem. Astra is their main vaccine but nobody wants it. Some of the discussions sound like U.K. April 20 (“Policemen moving people on for sitting on park benches!”). Contact tracing appears to be on the verge of reaching it’s limit (how many “venues of concern” becomes unmanageable?).
They must really hope it hasn’t spread far more than they are picking up.
Obviously they are far better off than almost everywhere is objective terms. But when the entire country has got used to the zero Covid mindset...
Does Australia have a problem with people not wanting the vaccine? (at leased any more that other Weston nations e.g. the UK and USA)
I heard somebody say that about both Australia and NZ on here a few weeks ago, but when I talked to my family in NZ they are adamant that there is no big anti vax thing, just slow in getting hold of vaccines in big numbers. and looked a some NZ news outlets, and nothing there.
Australia and New Zealand are different and it may be that what's happening on one is not the same as the other. But, I think its probably the case that Australia has vaccinated less of its population than other Weston nations mostly because of the late and low supply, even if Anti Vaz sentiment by some, has not helped.
Australia's problem seems to be that it has AZ but most people do not want AZ.
Now that's not a problem if Australia can keep Delta out until it has vaccinated with Pfizer.
But if Delta gets in (as it has) and proves uncontrollable (which we will see in the next few weeks) then it will have Delta rampaging around a country with little vaccination and almost zero acquired immunity.
I strongly suspect Delta is now uncontrollable within Sydney - it's just too easily infectious
I hope that's too pessimistic. A lockdown is a lockdown. A more infectious variant can't magically overcome the absence of social mixing.
Ultimately this pandemic will only end when you have sufficient herd immunity, either from acquired protection or a vaccine. Otherwise you will continually be bouncing between varying levels of restrictions (often quite suddenly imposed) and in the case of Oz and NZ, draconian border measures.
A burst of delta in Australia might wake them up a bit over there that they can’t keep it out forever and instead they need to get themselves vaxxed.
Well yes. One interesting feature of the Sydney "lockdown" is that sporting events outdoors continue with 50% capacity. Something we don't routinely have here as of yet. Test events apart.
Yep - it's not a "lockdown" by any UK definition which I suspect means Delta is going to sweep through Sydney over the next 3 weeks.
Sydney needs an actual lockdown, in the same way as the rest of the world did last March. Go home, and stay home. It might be too late already.
Tadej Pogačar (Slo) 17/10 Primož Roglič (Slo) 5/2 Geraint Thomas (Wal) 33/5 Richard Carapaz (Ecu) 11/1 Richie Porte (Aus) 27/1 Julian Alaphilippe (Fra) 35/1 Mark Padun (Ukr) 40/1 Miguel Ángel López (Col) 50/1 Rigoberto Urán (Col) 59/1 Tao Geoghegan Hart (Sco) 79/1 100 bar
Flatlander's predictions:
Porte will crash, Alaphilippe will crack in the mountains, even though there aren't many. Uran will follow and not gain any time, Geoghegan Hart will be under team orders. Carapaz might get a shot if Thomas isn't going well but the time trials might not suit.
Thomas or Pogacar. Roglic second to whoever wins.
Tadej Pogačar (Slo) 17/10 Primož Roglič (Slo) 5/2 Geraint Thomas (Wal) 33/5 Richard Carapaz (Ecu) 11/1 <- Couldn't quite follow. Lost a few seconds. Richie Porte (Aus) 27/1 <- Crash, lost 2'26" Julian Alaphilippe (Fra) 35/1 <- Did not appear to be conserving energy! Mark Padun (Ukr) 40/1 <- Did not start Miguel Ángel López (Col) 50/1 <- Crash, lost 1'59" Rigoberto Urán (Col) 59/1 Tao Geoghegan Hart (Sco) 79/1 <- Crash, lost 5'43"
I have some sympathy with Cummings on this. The Saj was not great as Chancellor during his brief spell. I remember a financial statement where he was consistently told off for spending nearly all of his time attacking Labour by the Speaker. It was, frankly, an embarrassingly poor effort. He seemed out of his depth in a way that Rishi simply doesn't, notwithstanding having a similar background in finance.
He's clearly not stupid and we can only hope that he has learned from that experience but social care in particular is going to need a much more conciliatory approach since any long term solution will ideally be cross party. I am not sure on the basis of his previous experience that that is his style.
Personally, I would rather have had Hunt back if he had been willing to do it. He probably has a better grip of these issues than anyone in government and has kept on top of them with his select committee role. Zahawi would have been another possibility. What Boris clearly wanted was someone who would slot in with no other reshuffle at this point and the Saj does achieve that. I hope I am wrong in this but Health and Social Care Secretary is going to be at least the third most important job in the government after PM and Chancellor over the next couple of years. I am not completely convinced Javid is the man for that.
You are making the mistake of analysing Johnson's government in conventional terms. Clearly I took this too far yesterday when I declared that Hancock would not go, due to Johnson's debasement of our political culture, but I think a much more important aspect to Javid's return is that Carrie was once one of his special advisors and, since the palace coup that ousted Cummings, a personal connection to Mrs PM is of far greater importance than the trifling details of being on top of his brief, or able to make a decent fist of a statement to the Commons.
The inevitable Johnson - Carrie bust up is really going be quite something. Who will get custody of the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care?
(This) Mrs Johnson, as an RC, doesn't, I assume, believe in divorce, only in annulment.
Why are you making that assumption? She seemed to have no problem with committing adultery so we should perhaps hold back on the "devout Catholic" bollocks.
In this context, note that former US Ambassador to the Holy See, Callista Gingrich, had an affair with her future husband, Newt Gingrich, while he was married to his previous (second) wife. So it seems the Vatican is pretty relaxed about adultery in high places.
The Tory Party has already had two leaders from an ethnic minority - in 1868 and 2003.
The Liberals and Labour have one each - 1931 and 2010.
I think you mean the first *non-white* leader which is not quite the same thing.
Interesting, isn't it, how this piece ignores Jewish immigrants in favour of ones who, presumably, look a bit more properly coloured up.
Just another variety of anti-semitism going on here? The subtext of it buys into the notion that they're not as deserving of the (vomit-inducing) smug self congratulations because they must have money hoarded away somewhere. Let's parade our son of a Pakistani bus driver rather than those whose families are sitting on mountains of Rothschild gold. (Neatly ignoring the fact that in reality many of them had narrowly escaped the concentrations camps.)
It takes me back to that hideous old bat Anne Widdecombe and her clearly anti-semitic attack on Michael Howard. He apparently had 'something of the night' about him. Naked anti-semitism. He was portrayed on at least one front page as a Fagin figure. I'm just surprised they didn't go the whole hog and picture him drinking the blood of virgins before returning to his casket at dawn.
Top trolling - especially the way you mix total cobblers with accurate observations. Although your usage of the word "naked" seems a bit off.
Why not ask about native Scots? I reckon not referencing Ramsay MacDonald, Gordon Brown, etc., was "just another variety" of English colonialism.
At the bottom of that page, it shoes you the take up by age group over time, what's worrying about Cambridge it the much above average number of old and middle age people who have not been jabbed compared to the national average,
e.g.
50-54 Year olds only 77% compared to England average of 85%,
Yeah, that's absolutely a concern -- it's clear that Cambridge's overall low figures are a combination of more vaccine-refusers as well as having a population that skews young.
I shall be doing my bit for the stats by getting my 2nd jab on Tuesday...
I have some sympathy with Cummings on this. The Saj was not great as Chancellor during his brief spell. I remember a financial statement where he was consistently told off for spending nearly all of his time attacking Labour by the Speaker. It was, frankly, an embarrassingly poor effort. He seemed out of his depth in a way that Rishi simply doesn't, notwithstanding having a similar background in finance.
He's clearly not stupid and we can only hope that he has learned from that experience but social care in particular is going to need a much more conciliatory approach since any long term solution will ideally be cross party. I am not sure on the basis of his previous experience that that is his style.
Personally, I would rather have had Hunt back if he had been willing to do it. He probably has a better grip of these issues than anyone in government and has kept on top of them with his select committee role. Zahawi would have been another possibility. What Boris clearly wanted was someone who would slot in with no other reshuffle at this point and the Saj does achieve that. I hope I am wrong in this but Health and Social Care Secretary is going to be at least the third most important job in the government after PM and Chancellor over the next couple of years. I am not completely convinced Javid is the man for that.
You are making the mistake of analysing Johnson's government in conventional terms. Clearly I took this too far yesterday when I declared that Hancock would not go, due to Johnson's debasement of our political culture, but I think a much more important aspect to Javid's return is that Carrie was once one of his special advisors and, since the palace coup that ousted Cummings, a personal connection to Mrs PM is of far greater importance than the trifling details of being on top of his brief, or able to make a decent fist of a statement to the Commons.
The inevitable Johnson - Carrie bust up is really going be quite something. Who will get custody of the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care?
(This) Mrs Johnson, as an RC, doesn't, I assume, believe in divorce, only in annulment.
Why are you making that assumption? She seemed to have no problem with committing adultery so we should perhaps hold back on the "devout Catholic" bollocks.
In this context, note that former US Ambassador to the Holy See, Callista Gingrich, had an affair with her future husband, Newt Gingrich, while he was married to his previous (second) wife. So it seems the Vatican is pretty relaxed about adultery in high places.
Is Rog trying to claim advertising industry is morally virtuous place, who only ever speak the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about products...crickey....i am not sure i have ever seen a fast food ad say well this over priced junk won't look anything like this, will taste pretty shit and is full of salt and fat and is generally really bad for your healthy...which will only have you singing I'm not really luv'ing it....
Don't think he's saying that at all, just that advertising is fairly well regulated through ASA, & if you're found to be lying you'll get pulled up for it. In a previous job I discovered that they're like a dog with a bone, particularly if (as in our case) they have one of the great and the good making the complaint.
In politics, this happens not so much.
There is loads of deceptive and shady advertising....ASA punishment seems mostly to be please take that down...that is if they aren't too busy worrying about gender stereotyping and diversity in ads.
A regulatory body that was e.g. able to ask Vote Leave to take down their lies that Turkey ‘is’ joining the EU might be an improvement on what currently exists.
Altogether now:
My lies good, your lies bad.
Kudos for your honesty in this regard anyway.
Whereas you don't have that level of honesty.
But who needs honesty when you have blind faith in the utterances of the dear leader.
O/T - Australia seems to have a real problem. Astra is their main vaccine but nobody wants it. Some of the discussions sound like U.K. April 20 (“Policemen moving people on for sitting on park benches!”). Contact tracing appears to be on the verge of reaching it’s limit (how many “venues of concern” becomes unmanageable?).
They must really hope it hasn’t spread far more than they are picking up.
Obviously they are far better off than almost everywhere is objective terms. But when the entire country has got used to the zero Covid mindset...
Does Australia have a problem with people not wanting the vaccine? (at leased any more that other Weston nations e.g. the UK and USA)
I heard somebody say that about both Australia and NZ on here a few weeks ago, but when I talked to my family in NZ they are adamant that there is no big anti vax thing, just slow in getting hold of vaccines in big numbers. and looked a some NZ news outlets, and nothing there.
Australia and New Zealand are different and it may be that what's happening on one is not the same as the other. But, I think its probably the case that Australia has vaccinated less of its population than other Weston nations mostly because of the late and low supply, even if Anti Vaz sentiment by some, has not helped.
Australia's problem seems to be that it has AZ but most people do not want AZ.
Now that's not a problem if Australia can keep Delta out until it has vaccinated with Pfizer.
But if Delta gets in (as it has) and proves uncontrollable (which we will see in the next few weeks) then it will have Delta rampaging around a country with little vaccination and almost zero acquired immunity.
I strongly suspect Delta is now uncontrollable within Sydney - it's just too easily infectious
I hope that's too pessimistic. A lockdown is a lockdown. A more infectious variant can't magically overcome the absence of social mixing.
Ultimately this pandemic will only end when you have sufficient herd immunity, either from acquired protection or a vaccine. Otherwise you will continually be bouncing between varying levels of restrictions (often quite suddenly imposed) and in the case of Oz and NZ, draconian border measures.
A burst of delta in Australia might wake them up a bit over there that they can’t keep it out forever and instead they need to get themselves vaxxed.
Well yes. One interesting feature of the Sydney "lockdown" is that sporting events outdoors continue with 50% capacity. Something we don't routinely have here as of yet. Test events apart.
Yep - it's not a "lockdown" by any UK definition which I suspect means Delta is going to sweep through Sydney over the next 3 weeks.
If it gets anything like as bad there as it was here during the first two waves here, then Australia is effectively going to devolve into two separate countries for about the next year - assuming that the remainder of the states don't end up getting it as well, of course. They'll be utterly terrified of letting it in.
The problem with the wife who has known you since way before you were king of the world is that she sees through your facade.
She knows your fears and your insecurities. She knows that, deep down inside, you are not the Master of the Universe you purport to be. And some people don’t like to be reminded of that.
The biggest problem in politicians marriages is the physical separation, with one life in the constituency and another in Westminster or Holyrood, the latter accompanied by young male and female groupies. I am surprised it doesn't happen more often.
There are plenty of other jobs where people work long hours, are separated etc. Having an affair may well be understandable. But it is always a choice.
I think the issue is that the consequences for politicians are pretty much all personal. In most areas of working life it would be an instant sacking offence (if conducted with work colleagues - especially where one is subordinate to the other). So that in itself makes it more likely.
And the point about the "where do you find the time issue?" - it's a lot easier if the affair is at work, rather than after work.
"Please could you come and take a dictation of a letter Miss Smith"
I’m not sure I agree about it being an instant sacking offence in most areas of working life. Which part? Having a relationship? Or an affair? Many marriages start at work. Sure there are rules about declaring relationships etc, but I’m not sure I’d get sacked at the uni if I had an affair with a colleague. Kicked out of my house yes...
I am certainly aware of married schoolteachers having to resign or look for posts elsewhere as a result of such affairs. I imagine their authority with parents - and perhaps pupils- will have been eroded.
Now having been infected he moves to a much higher level of protection.
The vaccination allowed him to do that with only minor effects.
Yes, strange he says it’s both ‘very nasty’ and akin to a ‘summer cold’, which doesn’t sound that nasty, relatively speaking.
Just what you would expect from the bellend, he is a useless presenter.
But Marr keeps getting the gigs. He is now presenting a series about great art on the BBC. Since when was he an expert on art? Marr's history book had to be pulped because it contained a slander. Yet he seems to be one of those indispensable to the BBC.
I think a lot of BBC contracts are of the “whatever we ask you to do” type, rather than being paid for specific programmes. So they are used for whatever ad hoc presenting job is going and can be fitted in.
Now having been infected he moves to a much higher level of protection.
The vaccination allowed him to do that with only minor effects.
Yes, strange he says it’s both ‘very nasty’ and akin to a ‘summer cold’, which doesn’t sound that nasty, relatively speaking.
Just what you would expect from the bellend, he is a useless presenter.
But Marr keeps getting the gigs. He is now presenting a series about great art on the BBC. Since when was he an expert on art? Marr's history book had to be pulped because it contained a slander. Yet he seems to be one of those indispensable to the BBC.
I think a lot of BBC contracts are of the “whatever we ask you to do” type, rather than being paid for specific programmes. So they are used for whatever ad hoc presenting job is going and can be fitted in.
Chumocracy just like the Tories.
It’s not chumocracy if they aren’t paid extra for each production. Basically they have a contract for, say £400k a year. They get paid that whether they present one programme (usually their main one) or 10.
The problem with the wife who has known you since way before you were king of the world is that she sees through your facade.
She knows your fears and your insecurities. She knows that, deep down inside, you are not the Master of the Universe you purport to be. And some people don’t like to be reminded of that.
The biggest problem in politicians marriages is the physical separation, with one life in the constituency and another in Westminster or Holyrood, the latter accompanied by young male and female groupies. I am surprised it doesn't happen more often.
There are plenty of other jobs where people work long hours, are separated etc. Having an affair may well be understandable. But it is always a choice.
I think the issue is that the consequences for politicians are pretty much all personal. In most areas of working life it would be an instant sacking offence (if conducted with work colleagues - especially where one is subordinate to the other). So that in itself makes it more likely.
And the point about the "where do you find the time issue?" - it's a lot easier if the affair is at work, rather than after work.
"Please could you come and take a dictation of a letter Miss Smith"
I’m not sure I agree about it being an instant sacking offence in most areas of working life. Which part? Having a relationship? Or an affair? Many marriages start at work. Sure there are rules about declaring relationships etc, but I’m not sure I’d get sacked at the uni if I had an affair with a colleague. Kicked out of my house yes...
I am certainly aware of married schoolteachers having to resign or look for posts elsewhere as a result of such affairs. I imagine their authority with parents - and perhaps pupils- will have been eroded.
A few years ago a colleague of mine, who was also a school inspector for the Catholic inspection agency, went to inspect a private school somewhere in the south (I forget where).
Among other things, he found that one of the married female staff had been having sex with the Deputy Head. While on school premises. In school hours. And was now pregnant.
He recommended that the school’s licence be suspended while they work out how the fuck nobody had noticed their fucking.
Sorry I gave you a chronic illness, I'm leaving you.
I agree he’s a shit for the way he treated his wife and kids, but that’s a trifle unfair!
My money is on the affair having gone on for years. The ‘started in May’ line is just a desperate attempt to head off concerns around the appointment.
The affair itself, distasteful as these things are, isn’t a resigning offence.
Hiring your mistress to your office, without declaring the relationship, that’s much more serious.
The personal email address is serious too, even though there’s a long history of ministers doing this. A sackable offence at pretty much any company.
The procurement stuff, I’m willing to give him more leeway than most, have been in situations at work before where the order was to throw the rules in the bin during an emergency, and ask everyone you know, call in any favours you may have, to do what needs doing. The PPE situation in March 2020 was definitely that.
That said, it’s still possible to be caught taking the piss, for example by inserting unnecessary people into supply chains, so it does need to be properly investigated. Any payments to the mistress certainly need looking at carefully.
Given how leaky the whole place is, I'm inclined to cut him a lot of slack on the email.
Depending how secure it was and if there was anything significant undeclared.
Sorry I gave you a chronic illness, I'm leaving you.
I agree he’s a shit for the way he treated his wife and kids, but that’s a trifle unfair!
My money is on the affair having gone on for years. The ‘started in May’ line is just a desperate attempt to head off concerns around the appointment.
The affair itself, distasteful as these things are, isn’t a resigning offence.
Hiring your mistress to your office, without declaring the relationship, that’s much more serious.
The personal email address is serious too, even though there’s a long history of ministers doing this. A sackable offence at pretty much any company.
The procurement stuff, I’m willing to give him more leeway than most, have been in situations at work before where the order was to throw the rules in the bin during an emergency, and ask everyone you know, call in any favours you may have, to do what needs doing. The PPE situation in March 2020 was definitely that.
That said, it’s still possible to be caught taking the piss, for example by inserting unnecessary people into supply chains, so it does need to be properly investigated. Any payments to the mistress certainly need looking at carefully.
Given how leaky the whole place is, I'm inclined to cut him a lot of slack on the email.
I wouldn't. Yes, the place leaks, but just because others do the wrong thing doesn't mean you have to, and ministers have no excuse for not knowing they shouldn't be doing as he did.
Why are there CCTV cameras in ministerial offices?
because they are known crooks, look at all the dodgy contracts handed out , hopefully they have their phones tapped and all their personal e-,mails, whats ups etc and get them in the pokey where they belong. Gove found to have broken the law as well,
Sorry I gave you a chronic illness, I'm leaving you.
I agree he’s a shit for the way he treated his wife and kids, but that’s a trifle unfair!
My money is on the affair having gone on for years. The ‘started in May’ line is just a desperate attempt to head off concerns around the appointment.
The affair itself, distasteful as these things are, isn’t a resigning offence.
Hiring your mistress to your office, without declaring the relationship, that’s much more serious.
The personal email address is serious too, even though there’s a long history of ministers doing this. A sackable offence at pretty much any company.
The procurement stuff, I’m willing to give him more leeway than most, have been in situations at work before where the order was to throw the rules in the bin during an emergency, and ask everyone you know, call in any favours you may have, to do what needs doing. The PPE situation in March 2020 was definitely that.
That said, it’s still possible to be caught taking the piss, for example by inserting unnecessary people into supply chains, so it does need to be properly investigated. Any payments to the mistress certainly need looking at carefully.
Given how leaky the whole place is, I'm inclined to cut him a lot of slack on the email.
Depending how secure it was and if there was anything significant undeclared.
The only reason he would use personal e-mail is because he knew it was dodgy and wanted it all to be under the desk, a crook plain and simple.
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One thing on the first dose/second dose thing. We hear about 2 doses being necessary for full protection. But is that just a consequence of the first dose prioritisation policy and the first dose wearing off? Or that one dose isn’t actually that effective between eg. 2 and 4 weeks?
In politics, this happens not so much.
When you know the Americans spied on Merkel for years, you have to presume somebody will be taking some interest in your goings on.
The 12 disciples did not suddenly stop being Jewish when they followed Jesus.
Elements of modern society are really, really clueless on religion.
My lies good, your lies bad.
There is deceptive and misleading stuff by the bucket load created by supporters of parties every day without for even the need for central coordination. The old dodgy doctor who runs Tory Fibs being a classic example, who has had to make numerous apologies for when really has crossed the line, let alone all the spin / half truths.
Pandora's box is already open.
ETA it was brought up today only because someone wondered if Rishi or Priti or The Saj might be our first BAME Prime Minister, and that led to the question of whether they'd been scooped by Disraeli.
Barry Nelson
Bob Holness
Sean Connery.
One interesting feature of the Sydney "lockdown" is that sporting events outdoors continue with 50% capacity.
Something we don't routinely have here as of yet. Test events apart.
Amusing given I spend all my time telling teenagers ‘always read the question’...
On 9/2/20, Brent wrote, "I've never taken a flu shot and I'll never take a COVID shot."
On 5/3/21: "Zinc & vitamin D regiment > Moderna and Pfizer"
On 6/23/21: "This is Brent's daughter... dad died of COVID...PLEASE save your families this heartache. Go get your shot."
https://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/status/1408915466760900613
When we have 70-80% of adults double jabbed, the outdoors will be essentially zero, even in crowds...presuming we don't get super super super mutant variant.
But, I think the rate of first jabs will start to drop soon, 10 days I recon, maybe a bit less, I'm largely basing that on the age bracket data, who's been jabbed and at what rate each age group is being jabbed. where in 11 days the 18-24 year olds will be more vaccinated than the 30-34 year olds are now, But also looking aw wales, they got to 88% on 15th June but have only been jabbing 0.1% most days since then. England at the moment is jabbing up to vaccine capacity, (at least in most places,) but soon that will drop off, there will be people coming late to the party, as in Israel, and wales, and some areas are further from that point than overs,
We will probably get to 90% eventually, but 86-88% in the next 10 ish days then, then a long drown out process maybe a month to get to 90%
So yes, I think Jess is potentially a good foil for Boris Johnson. I'd like to hear what she'd like to do, though.
Now a bit of zinc and vitamin D might be beneficial in moderation but I bet some are taking too much of such things.
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/nancy-pelosi-visits-san-franciscos-chinatown/2240247/
A total fucking retard.
NEW THREAD
Primož Roglič (Slo) 5/2
Geraint Thomas (Wal) 33/5
Richard Carapaz (Ecu) 11/1 <- Couldn't quite follow. Lost a few seconds.
Richie Porte (Aus) 27/1 <- Crash, lost 2'26"
Julian Alaphilippe (Fra) 35/1 <- Did not appear to be conserving energy!
Mark Padun (Ukr) 40/1 <- Did not start
Miguel Ángel López (Col) 50/1 <- Crash, lost 1'59"
Rigoberto Urán (Col) 59/1
Tao Geoghegan Hart (Sco) 79/1 <- Crash, lost 5'43"
Today should confirm form...
Also a young Nicola Sturgeon sang the titular song.
Why not ask about native Scots? I reckon not referencing Ramsay MacDonald, Gordon Brown, etc., was "just another variety" of English colonialism.
I shall be doing my bit for the stats by getting my 2nd jab on Tuesday...
New Thread
but don't rush as I've already bagged the first post.But who needs honesty when you have blind faith in the utterances of the dear leader.
Among other things, he found that one of the married female staff had been having sex with the Deputy Head. While on school premises. In school hours. And was now pregnant.
He recommended that the school’s licence be suspended while they work out how the fuck nobody had noticed their fucking.
Depending how secure it was and if there was anything significant undeclared.