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NIMBY Rishi – politicalbetting.com
“Fatta la legge. Trovato l’inganno.” (A law is made. A way round it is found.) Sicilian in origin, apparently. Fancy that.
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It would allow younger age groups to be vaccinated more quickly.
But the problem is that supplies of the vaccines needed to do that – Pfizer and Moderna – are limited, according to government sources.
There is currently thought to be a stockpile of more than five million vaccine doses, but they are almost entirely AstraZeneca, which is not being used for the under 40s.
Currently about four million extra doses are being supplied by manufacturers. But most of this comes from the UK’s AstraZeneca plants. On average around 1.5 million doses of Pfizer and Moderna are being imported in each week.
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FFS...5 million doses sitting doing nothing...get them in arms.
Surely we could do a scheme where your young, they tell you, you can come today, its going to be AZN, or if you don't wait for Pfizer / Moderna. Its up to you.
And watch the website crash with those who want to take that very, very slight risk....
I did flag this up at the time.
Rishi Sunak, the UK chancellor, is pushing to win a carve-out for the City of London in the G7’s push for a new global tax system to cover the world’s “largest and most profitable multinational enterprises”.
Sunak said the weekend’s “historic agreement” by G7 finance ministers would force “the largest multinational tech giants to pay their fair share of tax in the UK”.
But one official close to the talks said the UK was among those countries pushing “for an exemption on financial services”, reflecting Sunak’s fears that global banks with head offices in London could be affected.
HSBC, the UK’s biggest bank by revenues, generates more than half its income from China, while Standard Chartered, another UK-headquartered lender, conducts little business in Britain, with most from Asia and Africa.
Sunak raised the issue at the G7 talks in London, according to those briefed on the meeting, and his allies confirmed he would continue to make the case when the talks move to the G20 next month.
“Our position is we want financial services companies to be exempt and EU countries are in the same position,” said one British official. But Joe Biden, US president, wants to broaden the scope of the tax so it does not just hit US tech giants.
The Treasury said of the G7 agreement: “The deal makes sure that the system is fair, so that the right companies pay the right taxes in the right places.” It would now be discussed in further detail by G20 finance ministers and central bank governors.
Under so-called “pillar one” of the deal, it was agreed that countries could tax 20 per cent of the profits of the biggest multinationals above a 10 per cent margin based on where the company made its sales, regardless of whether they had a physical presence in that country.
The rationale for excluding the financial sector was set out in October 2020 in a “pillar one” plan that said financial services were a special case because they were generally required to have appropriately capitalised entities in each jurisdiction and therefore paid the right level of local tax.
But Biden’s proposals in April to define the type of companies included in the pillar one plan was cross-sector, based on the 100 largest and most profitable firms, and brought the issue of financial services back in scope.
https://www.ft.com/content/4ed18830-f561-4291-8db5-c3c1fa86c1b8
Anyhoo, I'm so old I remember when this government prioritised fish over banking, so I don't hold out much hope for Sunak.
For under 50, there have been 2.7m doses given and no clots. First dose has higher risk - think it's 13.6 in 1 million.
This would take away the unwelcome political and submission element of the knee gesture, be something that all non racists would get behind while quickly out the racists, and pump up the adrenaline of the fans and players before kick off, especially if accompanied by a roar at the end.
I am not a particularly clever or creative person, it staggers me they haven’t come up with this themselves.
I'd be willing to take part in that trial. The antivaxxers all bang on about people having to go for infinite jabs but I'm up for it all tbh.
EDit : @FrancisUrquhart It's a shame you can't take AZ as your second dose to test out similar tbh.
If the AZ clotting risk is mostly from the first dose them using it for the second dose only might work, otherwise we are going to be getting 3m AZ a week that we can't use...
So how about just opening up festivals etc, let them happen, and let the young get vaccinated once there's sufficient Pfizer etc available?
Why use a cure that is worse than the disease now? Which incidentally includes lockdowns too.
Dear Carlotta,
I’m writing to you as a valued member of the Magdalen Community to set the record straight on the stories in today’s media claiming that the College has taken down a portrait of Her Majesty the Queen.
In 2013, the MCR purchased an inexpensive print of a photograph of the Queen to put on its common room wall. Before then, there was no portrait of the Queen in the common room. A few days ago, the MCR voted after a debate to take the photograph down. The reasons for that decision are a matter for the MCR, but I understand from the MCR President that it reflected a desire that the room should be a neutral place for all members, regardless of demographic, background or views. The photograph will be safely stored with other items belonging to the MCR, in case the MCR wishes to put it up again at a future date.
The MCR is an organisation of graduate students at Magdalen. It does not represent or speak for the College. It has the right to make its own decisions about the decoration of its common room, provided that they do not breach College rules.
I have the greatest respect for the Queen, her seven decades of extraordinary service, and the steadfast way in which she has upheld British values against pressure. Those values include the right to freedom of expression and debate, including the expression of views which many people may find offensive or wrong. I strongly support the MCR’s exercise of that right, and their right to take democratic decisions about their own affairs, including the decoration of their own space in College. It has never been more important to support free speech in Universities. I very much hope that in continuing to do so we will have your support.
Best wishes,
Dinah Rose QC
President
We have another 2.5 million people's worth of supply just sitting doing nothing.
I would say if you want one of these, you can have it today. But know there is a tiny risk. Its totally up to you.
Some people need to just get over Covid now. Covid isn't a problem anymore, lets get back to normal. Besides Pfizer is already available to anyone 25+ so why use something worse than that?
In a few weeks time anyone 18+ will be able to get Pfizer.
We need to just announce the end to all legal restrictions next Monday and start to forget about Covid. Not live our lives around Covid, whether that be lockdowns, or using a vaccine the JCVI considers worse than the risk of Covid.
Millwall fans applauded as their team and QPR players came together to hold an anti-racism banner before Tuesday's Championship match at The Den, days after booing them for taking a knee...Millwall defender Mahlon Romeo, who said Saturday's booing had "personally disrespected" and "offended" him, led the team out in front of captain Alex Pearce. After the match Romeo was applauded off the pitch as he held his shirt aloft. Millwall's regular shirt sponsor had been replaced with the logo of anti-discrimination body Kick It Out. Evidently not.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/09/leading-biologist-dampens-his-smoking-gun-covid-lab-leak-theory
The vulnerable have been double-vaccinated. The young are causing a spread but they're spreading it to each other - and they're not especially vulnerable to Covid. And if 25+ then Pfizer or Moderna is available already - at this rate in a few weeks time Pfizer and Moderna will be available to 18+ too.
Using an inferior unrecommend medicine over a better alternative, or continuing with lockdown, for cases alone isn't necessary. Just forget about cases and move on.
We could bang out another 5 million people in the next week or two, so come unlocking time, they have at least partial coverage and thus reduction in spread.
.@MarosSefcovic says the infringement proceedings against the UK over the NI Protocol cd end up in the European Court of Justice in the autumn
https://twitter.com/tconnellyRTE/status/1402608340941914114?s=20
🏴 109,068 1st doses / 252,697 2nd doses
🏴 18,565 / 31,492
🏴 5,033 / 21,093
NI 4,136 / 8,200
Not good enough.
If you want to take precautions until you get your second jab then that should be your free choice, but its not a reason to continue with lockdown, or to go against JCVI advice.
There is clearly a big squeeze on supply, given all the youngsters are getting Pfizer / Moderna. And we can see it again in today's numbers, only ~130k first doses.
That being said, in Canada and much of the EU you are now seeing mixing and matching of vaccines. So, you get AZN first, and then one of the mRNA vaccines as your second shot.
I don't see why the UK doesn't follow the same principle. Especially given the emerging evidence is that mixing and matching produces a better immune response.
Article 16 is a perfectly legitimate part of the Protocol.
Of course, we can only impose that on our own country, and given that the mantra of the nutters is "no one is safe until everyone is safe", then I don't see the point in bothering.
The report is comparing delta variant with alpha variant, adjusted for age, vaccination status etc. and says delta variant has 2.6x greater chance of hospitalization vs. alpha variant.
"Of course you can protest, but only in a way we don't object to..."
That's part of what the protests are about.
The EU has a scheme up and running. We do too actually, just not publicised.
https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/How-do-Americans-prove-Covid-vaccination-status-to-enter-France I showed some work colleagues how to download the app the other day as they need to go to France on business.
We should copy France on this.
This is for AZN first, with Pfizer second. Which is probably exactly what the UK should be doing right now.
Now I am a bit sceptical about that, but if that's the evidence we have to go on, the race should be to get as many people with 2 doses of whatever we can give them asap.
Having 5 millions doses sitting doing nothing seems suboptimal, when it is clear there is a big squeeze on the supply of Pfizer / Moderna compared to the demand.
"The overall incidence after first or unknown doses was 13.6 per million doses. Taking into account the different numbers of patients vaccinated with COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca in different age groups, the data shows that there is a higher reported incidence rate in the younger adult age groups following the first dose compared to the older groups. (18.0 per million doses in those aged 18-49 years compared to 10.2 per million doses in those aged 50 years and over). The MHRA advises that this evolving evidence should be taken into account when considering the use of the vaccine. There is now some evidence that the reported incidence rate is higher in females compared to men although this is not seen across all age groups and the difference remains small.
The overall incidence after second doses was 1.3 per million doses. All reported cases following a second dose are in patients aged 50 years and over, for whom the reported incidence rate is 1.4 per million second doses. Currently, no cases have been reported following a second dose in patients aged 18-49 years with an estimated 2.7 million in this age group having received both doses. This should not be directly compared to the incidence rate reported after the first dose as the time for follow-up and identification of cases after second doses is more limited. However, the data are reassuring at this stage and suggest that the reported incidence rate following a second dose is lower than that seen following a first dose."
If you've already seen the spike protein, would any reaction that causes clotting not be less likely?
Or is the clotting mechanism entirely due to the carrier virus?
Matthew Katzman, president of Magdalen College’s 200-strong “middle common room” (MCR) of graduate students, is studying for a doctorate in computer science while also lecturing at Jesus College.
He is from Bethesda, Maryland, and attended the exclusive Sidwell Francis School, whose alumni include the children of several presidents. His father, Scott, is a prominent Washington lawyer." (£)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/magdalen-college-oxford-to-remove-queens-portrait-over-colonial-links-qcd3zlf2m
Figures I'd seen were 60% from one jab.
The only reason to get 2 doses ASAP of whatever is if the risk of Covid is more than the risk of the jabs, but the JCVI doesn't say that.
However, both vaccines were only 33% effective against the Indian variant three weeks after the first dose.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57214596
Now obviously I think it will be doing a much better job of preventing serious illness and hospitalization, but if the chances are still high of getting it, you can also most likely spread it and so onward transmission.
I think it would be beneficial to give the Under 30s an AZ option when they book but let them know very clearly the miniscule risks.
80% of UK adults have Covid antibodies, its farcical to continue obsessing with Covid. Just lift lockdown and move on already - and no need to use an inferior vaccine that the JCVI doesn't recommend if we have a better one available.
i) Anyone over 40 can instantly get AZ now. The 8 week delay is being kept for efficacy not supply so we're basically demand limited on 1st dose 40+ vaccinations and time limited on 2nd doses.
ii) Pfizer/Moderna is supply limited.
Despite being utterly insufferable in many ways, the French have got a number of things spot on.
I agree on the unlocking, but using what vaccine supplies we do have optimally is still worthwhile.
Isn't the reality that because COVID is so rare and so unlikely to kill people at the moment, there's no scientific basis for taking risks. Unlike back in January...
Of course, that also means we really ought to end lockdown.
Who cares if you have an asymptomatic infection? Especially when 80% of the country have antibodies already.
All the discussion on here is culture war, silly season stuff.
Don’t care about Lilibet, JCRs, knee-taking etc.
The data broke down Covid cases for single dosed people between those who had a Covid case who'd got their vaccination in the previous three weeks, and those who'd got it more than three weeks ago.
Including anyone who only got their Covid vaccine in the previous two weeks is incredibly misleading. Because it usually takes 10 days to two weeks before the infection reaches a level where it can be detected all. (Which has been the problem with Covid all along - this ticking timebomb of people who are going to be infectious but are not yet.)
In other words, that 33% is probably 50% people who'd caught Covid before getting the vaccine.
Honestly as soon as it was discovered that AZ needed 8-12 weeks in between doses to get to maximum efficacy plans to get other vaccines should have been made.
So, using second dose is a bit misleading.
Now it may be that cricket attracts a better clientele, or it may be Philip is wrong on this one and an alternative gesture would solve the impasse.
Wokeshittery is bad news in whatever form it takes.
I posted a Nature article, and the preliminary results from the trial in Spain is that AZN first plus Pfizer second stimulates a stronger immune response than either using AZN or Pfizer twice.
Canada, France, Spain, Germany and a bunch of other countries have now approved AZN followed by Pfizer, and we should probably do the same.
If you've had your first dose [like me!] and you are wondering about 2nd dose... it's relevant to look at 2nd dose! And reassuring to know risk seems to be less than 1st dose and no adverse instances reported in 2.7m doses.
The JCVI shows that the remaining age groups getting AZN is more risky than the miniscule risk from Covid. So doing a mix and match for them would be riskied than letting them take their chances until they can get Pfizer.
As soon as the prevalence increases and their chance of actually catching covid increases past "very low right now", that equation changes.
Delta therefore changes it all on its own, as does relaxation of restrictions.
(a) It ignores the benefit to everyone from reducing the number of potential Covid hosts.
(b) It relies on a very low community prevalence of Covid. If there's more Covid around (because of - say- the Delta variant), then the equation changes.
(c), the vaccine risk is for a particular point in time (i.e. getting the vaccine), while the Covid risk is potentially over decades
The virus is running out of people to infect.
Though its worth concentrating what vaccine supplies we do have in Manchester, Lancashire and other hotspots. An 18 year old in Manchester or Bolton is going to be at higher risk than a 25 year old in the Cotswolds.
A bit like the poppy fascists, for whom not wearing a poppy for days on end is a sign of being pacifist/treacherous/Corbynista etc.
The virus is only ever going to remain rare. We have herd immunity. There will be some people who get infected, but the idea of an overwhelming widespread pandemic is non-existant now. It can't happen already.
Given the emerging data is that mix and match is actually more efficacious, then offering the five million to people who simply want to walk in, with the promise of their second shot being Moderna or Pfizer makes an enormous amount of sense, as well as continuing to collapse the number of potential hosts for the virus faster.
I think what the government ought to do is allow everything (domestically) to go back to normal except say that people should continue to work from home if possible.
Its a gesture against racism that sport players (especially in football) have to put up with.