The largest Nechako white sturgeon on record was caught and released on the Nechako River near Vanderhoof, B.C., earlier this month.
Weighing in at 152 kilograms (336 pounds) and measuring 2.9 metres (9.6 feet), the huge fish was caught by staff at the Nechako White Sturgeon Conservation Centre (NWSCC).
"It was really an amazing experience," Jordan Cranmer, a junior researcher and outreach technician at the centre, told Carolina de Ryk on CBC's Daybreak North.
"As she got closer and closer to the boat, we really realized that we were in for a record."
The sturgeon is estimated to be nearly 100 years old, is almost blind and remarkably fertile, says Cranmer. . . .
Going to visit my parents today, they live in outer London so I have to get a commuter train. Trains are all fucked. Train scheduled but the platform is occupied by one that won't leave for ages so the one I need to get is cancelled because no platform is available for it. Honestly, these guys couldn't run a piss up in a brewery. It's the kind of shit that makes me want to smash the whole sector into a million pieces, sack all of the managers and CEOs and nationalise it all and make someone accountable for it. These arseholes have got a monopoly on the line and passengers can do nothing about their incompetence. We're stuck with it, roll on nationalisation and sacking all of these incompentent wankers in charge. I had a look into the CEO of this line and he's got absolutely zero real world experience and no qualifications for the job, just someone who failed upwards and is now failing in the job.
I think you are being very optimistic that a British Rail 2.0 will change such appointments....failing upwards appears to very common among public sector institutions see off the top of my head, the head of the MET.
At least I can go and bitch at the MP about it wankers. Right now not a single person is accountable and they have an actual monopoly over the line.
Going to visit my parents today, they live in outer London so I have to get a commuter train. Trains are all fucked. Train scheduled but the platform is occupied by one that won't leave for ages so the one I need to get is cancelled because no platform is available for it. Honestly, these guys couldn't run a piss up in a brewery. It's the kind of shit that makes me want to smash the whole sector into a million pieces, sack all of the managers and CEOs and nationalise it all and make someone accountable for it. These arseholes have got a monopoly on the line and passengers can do nothing about their incompetence. We're stuck with it, roll on nationalisation and sacking all of these incompentent wankers in charge. I had a look into the CEO of this line and he's got absolutely zero real world experience and no qualifications for the job, just someone who failed upwards and is now failing in the job.
As always, on PB, if someone says something dogmatic, someone comes along with the completely opposite story.
I went to Woking again today - travelled from East London - delighted to see the Drain back in operation, South West Railways put on a 12-coach train (presumably because there were 12 of us wanting to travel). Exercising social distancing when it's just you in the carriage isn't too difficult.
The huge difference on the Jubilee is the absence of the Canary Wharf workers - the service is now tolerable with seats and little or no standing.
This Working at Home really is wonderful as I'm sure you'll agree !!
He obviously dropped a bollock there, but I think it was quite an easy mistake to make. Doesn’t make him thick, though he might be. England at home to Romania, you’d think they’d wear White.
The largest Nechako white sturgeon on record was caught and released on the Nechako River near Vanderhoof, B.C., earlier this month.
Weighing in at 152 kilograms (336 pounds) and measuring 2.9 metres (9.6 feet), the huge fish was caught by staff at the Nechako White Sturgeon Conservation Centre (NWSCC).
"It was really an amazing experience," Jordan Cranmer, a junior researcher and outreach technician at the centre, told Carolina de Ryk on CBC's Daybreak North.
"As she got closer and closer to the boat, we really realized that we were in for a record."
The sturgeon is estimated to be nearly 100 years old, is almost blind and remarkably fertile, says Cranmer. . . .
The largest Nechako white sturgeon on record was caught and released on the Nechako River near Vanderhoof, B.C., earlier this month.
Weighing in at 152 kilograms (336 pounds) and measuring 2.9 metres (9.6 feet), the huge fish was caught by staff at the Nechako White Sturgeon Conservation Centre (NWSCC).
"It was really an amazing experience," Jordan Cranmer, a junior researcher and outreach technician at the centre, told Carolina de Ryk on CBC's Daybreak North.
"As she got closer and closer to the boat, we really realized that we were in for a record."
The sturgeon is estimated to be nearly 100 years old, is almost blind and remarkably fertile, says Cranmer. . . .
And all this is because Boris would not close the border with India, because ‘racism’, ‘trade talks’
Trade talks, not racism.
If he was worried about racism he wouldn't have closed off Pakistan and Bangladesh.
Fair point. Tho Big Bad Dom did cite "fear of racism" as one reason for our insane borders policy.
Anyway, it is insane. As soon as the Indian variant emerged, they should have shut the fucking Indian frontier. We would now be cruising to our allotted unlockdown date, easily winning the vaccine-v-variant race.
Boris spaffed our vaccine bonus up the frigging wall. And now lockdown might go on forever
If that's true then we're in this until 2022. I think it's time to leave the country, freedom just won't exist here in any meaningful sense because the government has been captured by the doom mongering scientists who want to keep everyone locked up forever.
Not that it’s at the forefront but delays to June 21st, especially a four week (minimum) delay must have serious implications for some massive U.K. sporting events. We are a major host for the European Championships, Wimbledon is start of July, British Grand Prix from 16th. Where does it end...?
NIH lifts 3-year ban on funding risky virus studies
More than 3 years after imposing a moratorium on U.S. funding for certain studies with dangerous viruses, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in Bethesda, Maryland, today lifted this so-called "pause" and announced a new plan for reviewing such research.
Concerns over so-called “gain-of-function” (GOF) studies that make pathogens more potent or likely to spread in people erupted in 2011, when Kawaoka’s team and Ron Fouchier’s lab at Erasmus Medical Center in Rotterdam, the Netherlands, announced that they had modified the H5N1 bird flu virus to enable it to spread between ferrets. Such studies could help experts prepare for pandemics, but pose risks if the souped-up pathogen escapes the lab.
Going to visit my parents today, they live in outer London so I have to get a commuter train. Trains are all fucked. Train scheduled but the platform is occupied by one that won't leave for ages so the one I need to get is cancelled because no platform is available for it. Honestly, these guys couldn't run a piss up in a brewery. It's the kind of shit that makes me want to smash the whole sector into a million pieces, sack all of the managers and CEOs and nationalise it all and make someone accountable for it. These arseholes have got a monopoly on the line and passengers can do nothing about their incompetence. We're stuck with it, roll on nationalisation and sacking all of these incompentent wankers in charge. I had a look into the CEO of this line and he's got absolutely zero real world experience and no qualifications for the job, just someone who failed upwards and is now failing in the job.
Because the one thing the public sector is well known for is sacking incompetents? And never failing upwards? 🤔
Dominic Raab's seat of Esher and Walton would have a LD MP based on the new boundaries, the first time ever it has not had a Tory MP. So while there would be a tiny net Tory gain overall, there would be Tory casualties too
The LibDems had a noticeably poor performance in E&W at both County and Borough levels on May 6th.
Why do I get the feeling Labour and Lib Dems will expend so much energy in Uxbridge & South Ruislip and Esher & Walton at the next election when they should focus on more winnable seats.
Shades of Charlie Kennedy's decapitation strategy?
Esher and Walton is just 9th on the LD target list, if they cannot win there they cannot win new seats anywhere
The LibDems often fail to make the expected gains while winning somewhere totally unexpected because of local factors.
Esher and Walton will be a lot harder for the LibDems than its current majority suggests.
NIH lifts 3-year ban on funding risky virus studies
More than 3 years after imposing a moratorium on U.S. funding for certain studies with dangerous viruses, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in Bethesda, Maryland, today lifted this so-called "pause" and announced a new plan for reviewing such research.
Concerns over so-called “gain-of-function” (GOF) studies that make pathogens more potent or likely to spread in people erupted in 2011, when Kawaoka’s team and Ron Fouchier’s lab at Erasmus Medical Center in Rotterdam, the Netherlands, announced that they had modified the H5N1 bird flu virus to enable it to spread between ferrets. Such studies could help experts prepare for pandemics, but pose risks if the souped-up pathogen escapes the lab.
Stunning indeed. Fauci really says this. Go to 1:38
‘Fauci's words are stunning: "You don't wanna go to Hoboken New Jersey or to Fairfax Virginia to be studying the bat-human interface. THAT MIGHT LEAD TO AN OUTBREAK. So you go to China.”’
How does Fauci survive these remarks? He’s now admitting he funded gain-of-function research to make bat coronaviruses nastier. And the reason he funded this science in Wuhan is because such research is dangerous, might cause a pandemic, and he didn’t want to take that risk in America
I’m struggling to find an alternative explanation for his words
That seems incredibly aggressively clipped. Would love to see the surrounding context.
I'm slightly sceptical that the boundary changes give the Cons sny immediate advantage. They have a lot of first-term MPs whose incumbency they are failing to maximise by implementing boundary changes now. Tactically, the time to implement boundary changes is as your vote is ebbing and your incumbency boost as small. Of course, arguably, it shouldn't be a political consideration. But we know politics comes into it.
I don't see much in it myself. I suspect that with the increasing C2DE Tory vote and decreasing ABC1 vote, that the geography pretty much cancels out the demography. I cannot see SKS overturning the majority in 2023/4 whatever the constituencies.
Unless of course there are further major events, which are quite possible in a rather unpredictable world.
That logic rather eludes me. In 2019 we saw a swing of almost 5% to the Tories in a single election. Why can that not be reversed in 2023 or 2024?
It could be, but SKS is far too dull and wooden to do it. A different leader who can show a bit of inspirational zeal might.
I have been coming to that view myself in view of the mounting evidence of his psephological autism as highlighted by his holding totally unnecessary by elections at times particularly helpful to the Government. On the other hand , barely six months ago the polls were recording a 7% swing against the Tories compared with 2019.
I think a 4 week delay, Tories polling numbers will be through the floor. The great unlocking has been boosted and boosted and boosted. Get jabbed, just hold on a bit longer, then bright days ahead...or not.
If that's true then we're in this until 2022. I think it's time to leave the country, freedom just won't exist here in any meaningful sense because the government has been captured by the doom mongering scientists who want to keep everyone locked up forever.
I have the same dark thoughts. I wonder if they will actually tighten the lockdown again
I don't think they will tighten the lockdown. They are hoping that if we wait four more weeks, the Delta situation will crystallize and hopefully stabilize to allow a permanent and non-reversible move to Stage 4 in late July.
And all this is because Boris would not close the border with India, because ‘racism’, ‘trade talks’
That provides the excuse but it’s not the reason. Even with the Delta variant it’s clear that the goalposts are being shifted. The “data not dates” roadmap was presumably based on something approximating midpoint scenarios for rising cases, hospitalisations and deaths. Whilst case numbers are probably keeping up with that, hospitalisations and deaths absolutely are not.
So whatever “data” they were anticipating for decisions in March is now just being blatantly overridden
Going to visit my parents today, they live in outer London so I have to get a commuter train. Trains are all fucked. Train scheduled but the platform is occupied by one that won't leave for ages so the one I need to get is cancelled because no platform is available for it. Honestly, these guys couldn't run a piss up in a brewery. It's the kind of shit that makes me want to smash the whole sector into a million pieces, sack all of the managers and CEOs and nationalise it all and make someone accountable for it. These arseholes have got a monopoly on the line and passengers can do nothing about their incompetence. We're stuck with it, roll on nationalisation and sacking all of these incompentent wankers in charge. I had a look into the CEO of this line and he's got absolutely zero real world experience and no qualifications for the job, just someone who failed upwards and is now failing in the job.
Because the one thing the public sector is well known for is sacking incompetents? And never failing upwards? 🤔
I have always thought that the irony of the little lamented privatised structure was that Railtrack was in practice far more a ‘publicly owned, publicly accountable’ system than Network Rail or BR. Anyone could own shares in Railtrack and vote on its board, its policies and its operations as a result.
Only civil servants and ministers can make decisions over the railways when they are in public ownership, and passengers are not a high priority for them.
NIH lifts 3-year ban on funding risky virus studies
More than 3 years after imposing a moratorium on U.S. funding for certain studies with dangerous viruses, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in Bethesda, Maryland, today lifted this so-called "pause" and announced a new plan for reviewing such research.
Concerns over so-called “gain-of-function” (GOF) studies that make pathogens more potent or likely to spread in people erupted in 2011, when Kawaoka’s team and Ron Fouchier’s lab at Erasmus Medical Center in Rotterdam, the Netherlands, announced that they had modified the H5N1 bird flu virus to enable it to spread between ferrets. Such studies could help experts prepare for pandemics, but pose risks if the souped-up pathogen escapes the lab.
I've been linking to these same articles for weeks.
It came from the lab!
I'd only seen bits and pieces on twitter and did think some of the Fauci emails looked pretty bad for him but I hadn't looked at the details until now. As you pointed out, the attempted cover up in the US could have serious political consequences.
If that's true then we're in this until 2022. I think it's time to leave the country, freedom just won't exist here in any meaningful sense because the government has been captured by the doom mongering scientists who want to keep everyone locked up forever.
I have the same dark thoughts. I wonder if they will actually tighten the lockdown again
That's kind of happened today across a swathe of the north, hasn't it? OK, it's advice not command, for now anyway... but it's not remotely consistent with announcing the removal of all restrictions everywhere next Monday to come into force the week after that.
Whatever happens, the vaccines will work enough for everyone, and sooner than the autumn. But I really thought that, this time, for once, the government wouldn't muck things up by preliminary hype. It's not (entirely) their fault that the vaccination programme isn't quite where we wanted it to be by now. It's not (entirely) their fault that they let the new variant in before the UK was ready. But there's also a good chunk of "They botched this. Again. Because they're not fit to govern."
The largest Nechako white sturgeon on record was caught and released on the Nechako River near Vanderhoof, B.C., earlier this month.
Weighing in at 152 kilograms (336 pounds) and measuring 2.9 metres (9.6 feet), the huge fish was caught by staff at the Nechako White Sturgeon Conservation Centre (NWSCC).
"It was really an amazing experience," Jordan Cranmer, a junior researcher and outreach technician at the centre, told Carolina de Ryk on CBC's Daybreak North.
"As she got closer and closer to the boat, we really realized that we were in for a record."
The sturgeon is estimated to be nearly 100 years old, is almost blind and remarkably fertile, says Cranmer. . . .
Hope they put it back.
They did. In fact, Grandma Sturgeon (no relation to Scottish FM) has caught & released before, more than once.
O/T bit U.K. vaccines. It does seem anecdotally that at least prt of the slow pace of vaccination (and probably what is preventing a free for all is this self imposed restriction to U40s). I wonder where we’d be for numbers if that hadn’t been implemented?
Stunning indeed. Fauci really says this. Go to 1:38
‘Fauci's words are stunning: "You don't wanna go to Hoboken New Jersey or to Fairfax Virginia to be studying the bat-human interface. THAT MIGHT LEAD TO AN OUTBREAK. So you go to China.”’
How does Fauci survive these remarks? He’s now admitting he funded gain-of-function research to make bat coronaviruses nastier. And the reason he funded this science in Wuhan is because such research is dangerous, might cause a pandemic, and he didn’t want to take that risk in America
I’m struggling to find an alternative explanation for his words
That seems incredibly aggressively clipped. Would love to see the surrounding context.
I've watched it all, and debated it with some other lab-leakers. Yes, we're a tribe! I am actually talking with Richard Ebright, the Prof of Chemistry at Rutgers, and one of the leading early doubters about natural, non-lab zoonosis
Anyway we have decided to give Fauci the benefit of the doubt, to an extent, on this quote. He is probably trying to say, in a garbled way, that it is better to do the research in China because that is where the bat-interface is - ie in the caves of Yunnan - so there's no point in spreading the risk of a leak by bringing the research back to the USA. He's not saying Chinese lives are worth less
However, he is, it seems, admitting that this research IS dangerous, and might cause an outbreak
Elsewhere in the same interview Fauci tells two outright lies. He suggests the Wuhan lab is excellent and reputable (it isn't, US observers raised grave fears about Wuhan's biosecuirity in 2017) and he denies any link between the lab and the Chinese military, which is nonsense: there is ample evidence of links, including a State Department report in early 2020
Why is Fauci telling all these apparent lies? He knows he's in deep shit. I expect one day soon he will be grilled about all this much more forensically
And all this is because Boris would not close the border with India, because ‘racism’, ‘trade talks’
That provides the excuse but it’s not the reason. Even with the Delta variant it’s clear that the goalposts are being shifted. The “data not dates” roadmap was presumably based on something approximating midpoint scenarios for rising cases, hospitalisations and deaths. Whilst case numbers are probably keeping up with that, hospitalisations and deaths absolutely are not.
So whatever “data” they were anticipating for decisions in March is now just being blatantly overridden
I suspect that Boris is functionally innumerate ** and easily swayed by 'scary graphs'.
** This would also help to explain his chaotic personal finances.
NIH lifts 3-year ban on funding risky virus studies
More than 3 years after imposing a moratorium on U.S. funding for certain studies with dangerous viruses, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in Bethesda, Maryland, today lifted this so-called "pause" and announced a new plan for reviewing such research.
Concerns over so-called “gain-of-function” (GOF) studies that make pathogens more potent or likely to spread in people erupted in 2011, when Kawaoka’s team and Ron Fouchier’s lab at Erasmus Medical Center in Rotterdam, the Netherlands, announced that they had modified the H5N1 bird flu virus to enable it to spread between ferrets. Such studies could help experts prepare for pandemics, but pose risks if the souped-up pathogen escapes the lab.
I've been linking to these same articles for weeks.
It came from the lab!
Newbie. I was involved in intergovernmental discussions of Ron and Yoshi's work back in 2011. Yoshi, btw is a fun dinner companion, Ron not so much.
BTW Just off the Zoom from a very interesting discussion of the Lab Leak hyphothesis. One of the leading scientists pushing the plausibility of the hypothesis (note, the plausibility of, not the fact of) mused that the original resistance of the scientific community to it was a knee-jerk response to Trump's insistence that it came from the lab. Oh, the irony.
I'm coming round to Covid passports for the double vaxxed so we won't have to endure any further lockdown restrictions.
It doesn’t work, it’s nonsense. If pubs can only let in double vaxxed people (and have to employ extra security to enforce it), then they might as well stick to the existing rules. It’s not the double vaxxed who are going to be cramming into nightclubs or packing out pubs on Friday nights.
I’m in a pub now - about 30 people, two members of staff. How on earth do they afford to start enforcing double vax rules?
NIH lifts 3-year ban on funding risky virus studies
More than 3 years after imposing a moratorium on U.S. funding for certain studies with dangerous viruses, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in Bethesda, Maryland, today lifted this so-called "pause" and announced a new plan for reviewing such research.
Concerns over so-called “gain-of-function” (GOF) studies that make pathogens more potent or likely to spread in people erupted in 2011, when Kawaoka’s team and Ron Fouchier’s lab at Erasmus Medical Center in Rotterdam, the Netherlands, announced that they had modified the H5N1 bird flu virus to enable it to spread between ferrets. Such studies could help experts prepare for pandemics, but pose risks if the souped-up pathogen escapes the lab.
I've been linking to these same articles for weeks.
It came from the lab!
I'd only seen bits and pieces on twitter and did think some of the Fauci emails looked pretty bad for him but I hadn't looked at the details until now. As you pointed out, the attempted cover up in the US could have serious political consequences.
Yes, once you start digging, a huge cavern opens up, and you tumble into the darkness: it is exciting and exhilarating
What makes it even more exciting, is that you can do original detective work by yourself, sitting at home, on a laptop. I've done some myself. Felt like a proper Sherlock
See this remarkable story
"Exclusive: How Amateur Sleuths Broke the Wuhan Lab Story and Embarrassed the Media"
Stunning indeed. Fauci really says this. Go to 1:38
‘Fauci's words are stunning: "You don't wanna go to Hoboken New Jersey or to Fairfax Virginia to be studying the bat-human interface. THAT MIGHT LEAD TO AN OUTBREAK. So you go to China.”’
How does Fauci survive these remarks? He’s now admitting he funded gain-of-function research to make bat coronaviruses nastier. And the reason he funded this science in Wuhan is because such research is dangerous, might cause a pandemic, and he didn’t want to take that risk in America
I’m struggling to find an alternative explanation for his words
That seems incredibly aggressively clipped. Would love to see the surrounding context.
I've watched it all, and debated it with some other lab-leakers. Yes, we're a tribe! I am actually talking with Richard Ebright, the Prof of Chemistry at Rutgers, and one of the leading early doubters about natural, non-lab zoonosis
Anyway we have decided to give Fauci the benefit of the doubt, to an extent, on this quote. He is probably trying to say, in a garbled way, that it is better to do the research in China because that is where the bat-interface is - ie in the caves of Yunnan - so there's no point in spreading the risk of a leak by bringing the research back to the USA. He's not saying Chinese lives are worth less
However, he is, it seems, admitting that this research IS dangerous, and might cause an outbreak
Elsewhere in the same interview Fauci tells two outright lies. He suggests the Wuhan lab is excellent and reputable (it isn't, US observers raised grave fears about Wuhan's biosecuirity in 2017) and he denies any link between the lab and the Chinese military, which is nonsense: there is ample evidence of links, including a State Department report in early 2020
Why is Fauci telling all these apparent lies? He knows he's in deep shit. I expect one day soon he will be grilled about all this much more forensically
A small lab leak in China which killed a few dozen would mean fuck all.
A small lab leak in the USA which killed a few dozen would get you in serious legal problems.
I'm coming round to Covid passports for the double vaxxed so we won't have to endure any further lockdown restrictions.
It doesn’t work, it’s nonsense. If pubs can only let in double vaxxed people (and have to employ extra security to enforce it), then they might as well stick to the existing rules. It’s not the double vaxxed who are going to be cramming into nightclubs or packing out pubs on Friday nights.
I’m in a pub now - about 30 people, two members of staff. How on earth do they afford to start enforcing double vax rules?
Plus me, a double vaccinated person, doesn't give a sh*t if the people around me are vaccinated or not. Why would I care?
Stunning indeed. Fauci really says this. Go to 1:38
‘Fauci's words are stunning: "You don't wanna go to Hoboken New Jersey or to Fairfax Virginia to be studying the bat-human interface. THAT MIGHT LEAD TO AN OUTBREAK. So you go to China.”’
How does Fauci survive these remarks? He’s now admitting he funded gain-of-function research to make bat coronaviruses nastier. And the reason he funded this science in Wuhan is because such research is dangerous, might cause a pandemic, and he didn’t want to take that risk in America
I’m struggling to find an alternative explanation for his words
That seems incredibly aggressively clipped. Would love to see the surrounding context.
I've watched it all, and debated it with some other lab-leakers. Yes, we're a tribe! I am actually talking with Richard Ebright, the Prof of Chemistry at Rutgers, and one of the leading early doubters about natural, non-lab zoonosis
Anyway we have decided to give Fauci the benefit of the doubt, to an extent, on this quote. He is probably trying to say, in a garbled way, that it is better to do the research in China because that is where the bat-interface is - ie in the caves of Yunnan - so there's no point in spreading the risk of a leak by bringing the research back to the USA. He's not saying Chinese lives are worth less
However, he is, it seems, admitting that this research IS dangerous, and might cause an outbreak
Elsewhere in the same interview Fauci tells two outright lies. He suggests the Wuhan lab is excellent and reputable (it isn't, US observers raised grave fears about Wuhan's biosecuirity in 2017) and he denies any link between the lab and the Chinese military, which is nonsense: there is ample evidence of links, including a State Department report in early 2020
Why is Fauci telling all these apparent lies? He knows he's in deep shit. I expect one day soon he will be grilled about all this much more forensically
A small lab leak in China which killed a few dozen would mean fuck all.
A small lab leak in the USA which killed a few dozen would get you in serious legal problems.
Actually, as small lab leak in China could result in the Director's execution.
Does anyone know what age range European countries are currently vaccinating ?
Not approved for vaccinating but actually vaccinating.
I've read that Italy and Poland are currently vaccinating 12-15 year olds.
If so doesn't that suggest that they're rapidly running out of people wishing to be vaccinated ?
Possibly, but it could also suggest that the medical alterities there have calculated that the younger people are more likely to catch and spread it because they socialise more, spend time in lecher thetas together/ work in costumer facing jobs at pubs and restaurants, and therefor, by vaccinating a good chunk of this age range, they eliminate/reduce the change of another 'wave' rather than by just going from oldest to youngest.
Not saying that's what they are doing, just that it seems a plausible strategy,
Talking of which, I think vaccinating the 18-30 year olds that which to have one in the UK with have a mammoth effect on bringing down infections.
I'm coming round to Covid passports for the double vaxxed so we won't have to endure any further lockdown restrictions.
Locking Indie Sage up in an oubliette with heavy duty gags for eight weeks would achieve the same effect much more cheaply.
Or just follow what the EU are doing and cut back on testing. If Delta is genuinely a problem then we’re already screwed. Lots of testing really doesn’t do anything unless it’s going to result in a massive reversal on the lifting of restrictions thus far. They need to focus on hospitalisations, and even more focus on the severity of illness if those in hospitals.
The problem is that they’re so pleased with being top of the table for genomic testing and variant identification, that they’re failing to question whether it is actually helping.
NIH lifts 3-year ban on funding risky virus studies
More than 3 years after imposing a moratorium on U.S. funding for certain studies with dangerous viruses, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in Bethesda, Maryland, today lifted this so-called "pause" and announced a new plan for reviewing such research.
Concerns over so-called “gain-of-function” (GOF) studies that make pathogens more potent or likely to spread in people erupted in 2011, when Kawaoka’s team and Ron Fouchier’s lab at Erasmus Medical Center in Rotterdam, the Netherlands, announced that they had modified the H5N1 bird flu virus to enable it to spread between ferrets. Such studies could help experts prepare for pandemics, but pose risks if the souped-up pathogen escapes the lab.
I've been linking to these same articles for weeks.
It came from the lab!
Newbie. I was involved in intergovernmental discussions of Ron and Yoshi's work back in 2011. Yoshi, btw is a fun dinner companion, Ron not so much.
BTW Just off the Zoom from a very interesting discussion of the Lab Leak hyphothesis. One of the leading scientists pushing the plausibility of the hypothesis (note, the plausibility of, not the fact of) mused that the original resistance of the scientific community to it was a knee-jerk response to Trump's insistence that it came from the lab. Oh, the irony.
Yes, of course it was Trump: Trump Derangement Syndrome, to be precise
There was the horrible possibility that if Trump's lab thesis was proved right, he would be vindicated, and win the election. That must have warped a few brains, and persuaded sensible people to lie
BTW I'm still not wholly convinced that it came from the lab. Tho I think it is the most likely explanation. What is indisputable is that there was a cover-up, both in America and in Britain, as the scientific Establishment tried to squash the Lab Leak hypothesis.
There goes the IPL contracts for Morgan & Buttler.
The England and Wales Cricket Board are investigating historic tweets posted by senior players Jos Buttler and Eoin Morgan after they appeared to mimic Indian people saying “Sir” in posts sent in 2017 and 2018.
The messages have been widely circulated on Twitter in the wake of the ECB’s decision to suspend Ollie Robinson for posts that were made in 2012 and 2013 when he was still a teenager.
Screenshots have also been shared of a message by Buttler in which he says “I always reply sir no1 else like me like you like me” and, separately, Morgan includes Buttler in a message which says, “Sir you're my favourite batsman”.
Some messages have since been deleted but, in the wake of the ECB’s crackdown over social media use, the governing body will investigate the latest posts to have come to light and decide whether action needs to be taken.
Although there are questions over the precise context of the tweets, they were written at a time when Buttler and Morgan were established England players and have caused offence on social media. Buttler is the current England vice-captain and he plays for the Rajasthan Royals in the Indian Premier League.
Morgan, who plays for the Kolkata Knight Riders in the Indian Premier League, is the all-time leading run scorer and most capped player for England in limited overs matches, having been appointed one-day captain in 2015
NIH lifts 3-year ban on funding risky virus studies
More than 3 years after imposing a moratorium on U.S. funding for certain studies with dangerous viruses, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in Bethesda, Maryland, today lifted this so-called "pause" and announced a new plan for reviewing such research.
Concerns over so-called “gain-of-function” (GOF) studies that make pathogens more potent or likely to spread in people erupted in 2011, when Kawaoka’s team and Ron Fouchier’s lab at Erasmus Medical Center in Rotterdam, the Netherlands, announced that they had modified the H5N1 bird flu virus to enable it to spread between ferrets. Such studies could help experts prepare for pandemics, but pose risks if the souped-up pathogen escapes the lab.
I've been linking to these same articles for weeks.
It came from the lab!
I'd only seen bits and pieces on twitter and did think some of the Fauci emails looked pretty bad for him but I hadn't looked at the details until now. As you pointed out, the attempted cover up in the US could have serious political consequences.
Yes, once you start digging, a huge cavern opens up, and you tumble into the darkness: it is exciting and exhilarating
What makes it even more exciting, is that you can do original detective work by yourself, sitting at home, on a laptop. I've done some myself. Felt like a proper Sherlock
See this remarkable story
"Exclusive: How Amateur Sleuths Broke the Wuhan Lab Story and Embarrassed the Media"
It’s good to know that it’s not just in England that education ministers are (a) totally fucking stupid (b) quite extraordinarily dishonest or (c) both.
Scotland is already shaping up to be a worse mess than last year given the bizarre system they have put in place. Giving a pledge like that is just asking for trouble.
I’m aware that this has very personal implications for a number of posters. But it’s no good blinking at facts.
NIH lifts 3-year ban on funding risky virus studies
More than 3 years after imposing a moratorium on U.S. funding for certain studies with dangerous viruses, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in Bethesda, Maryland, today lifted this so-called "pause" and announced a new plan for reviewing such research.
Concerns over so-called “gain-of-function” (GOF) studies that make pathogens more potent or likely to spread in people erupted in 2011, when Kawaoka’s team and Ron Fouchier’s lab at Erasmus Medical Center in Rotterdam, the Netherlands, announced that they had modified the H5N1 bird flu virus to enable it to spread between ferrets. Such studies could help experts prepare for pandemics, but pose risks if the souped-up pathogen escapes the lab.
I've been linking to these same articles for weeks.
It came from the lab!
I'd only seen bits and pieces on twitter and did think some of the Fauci emails looked pretty bad for him but I hadn't looked at the details until now. As you pointed out, the attempted cover up in the US could have serious political consequences.
Yes, once you start digging, a huge cavern opens up, and you tumble into the darkness: it is exciting and exhilarating
What makes it even more exciting, is that you can do original detective work by yourself, sitting at home, on a laptop. I've done some myself. Felt like a proper Sherlock
See this remarkable story
"Exclusive: How Amateur Sleuths Broke the Wuhan Lab Story and Embarrassed the Media"
Given how much Boris Johnson wanted to suck up to Modi for a trade deal and led to the Indian variant becoming dominant here I fully expect Boris Johnson to urge the sacking of Buttler and Morgan.
Stunning indeed. Fauci really says this. Go to 1:38
‘Fauci's words are stunning: "You don't wanna go to Hoboken New Jersey or to Fairfax Virginia to be studying the bat-human interface. THAT MIGHT LEAD TO AN OUTBREAK. So you go to China.”’
How does Fauci survive these remarks? He’s now admitting he funded gain-of-function research to make bat coronaviruses nastier. And the reason he funded this science in Wuhan is because such research is dangerous, might cause a pandemic, and he didn’t want to take that risk in America
I’m struggling to find an alternative explanation for his words
That seems incredibly aggressively clipped. Would love to see the surrounding context.
I've watched it all, and debated it with some other lab-leakers. Yes, we're a tribe! I am actually talking with Richard Ebright, the Prof of Chemistry at Rutgers, and one of the leading early doubters about natural, non-lab zoonosis
Anyway we have decided to give Fauci the benefit of the doubt, to an extent, on this quote. He is probably trying to say, in a garbled way, that it is better to do the research in China because that is where the bat-interface is - ie in the caves of Yunnan - so there's no point in spreading the risk of a leak by bringing the research back to the USA. He's not saying Chinese lives are worth less
However, he is, it seems, admitting that this research IS dangerous, and might cause an outbreak
Elsewhere in the same interview Fauci tells two outright lies. He suggests the Wuhan lab is excellent and reputable (it isn't, US observers raised grave fears about Wuhan's biosecuirity in 2017) and he denies any link between the lab and the Chinese military, which is nonsense: there is ample evidence of links, including a State Department report in early 2020
Why is Fauci telling all these apparent lies? He knows he's in deep shit. I expect one day soon he will be grilled about all this much more forensically
A small lab leak in China which killed a few dozen would mean fuck all.
A small lab leak in the USA which killed a few dozen would get you in serious legal problems.
Actually, as small lab leak in China could result in the Director's execution.
Which would give them something of an incentive to cover problems up.
But what would worry some US topbods more - someone in China being executed or themselves facing legal action in the USA ?
There goes the IPL contracts for Morgan & Buttler.
The England and Wales Cricket Board are investigating historic tweets posted by senior players Jos Buttler and Eoin Morgan after they appeared to mimic Indian people saying “Sir” in posts sent in 2017 and 2018.
The messages have been widely circulated on Twitter in the wake of the ECB’s decision to suspend Ollie Robinson for posts that were made in 2012 and 2013 when he was still a teenager.
Screenshots have also been shared of a message by Buttler in which he says “I always reply sir no1 else like me like you like me” and, separately, Morgan includes Buttler in a message which says, “Sir you're my favourite batsman”.
Some messages have since been deleted but, in the wake of the ECB’s crackdown over social media use, the governing body will investigate the latest posts to have come to light and decide whether action needs to be taken.
Although there are questions over the precise context of the tweets, they were written at a time when Buttler and Morgan were established England players and have caused offence on social media. Buttler is the current England vice-captain and he plays for the Rajasthan Royals in the Indian Premier League.
Morgan, who plays for the Kolkata Knight Riders in the Indian Premier League, is the all-time leading run scorer and most capped player for England in limited overs matches, having been appointed one-day captain in 2015
There goes the IPL contracts for Morgan & Buttler.
The England and Wales Cricket Board are investigating historic tweets posted by senior players Jos Buttler and Eoin Morgan after they appeared to mimic Indian people saying “Sir” in posts sent in 2017 and 2018.
The messages have been widely circulated on Twitter in the wake of the ECB’s decision to suspend Ollie Robinson for posts that were made in 2012 and 2013 when he was still a teenager.
Screenshots have also been shared of a message by Buttler in which he says “I always reply sir no1 else like me like you like me” and, separately, Morgan includes Buttler in a message which says, “Sir you're my favourite batsman”.
Some messages have since been deleted but, in the wake of the ECB’s crackdown over social media use, the governing body will investigate the latest posts to have come to light and decide whether action needs to be taken.
Although there are questions over the precise context of the tweets, they were written at a time when Buttler and Morgan were established England players and have caused offence on social media. Buttler is the current England vice-captain and he plays for the Rajasthan Royals in the Indian Premier League.
Morgan, who plays for the Kolkata Knight Riders in the Indian Premier League, is the all-time leading run scorer and most capped player for England in limited overs matches, having been appointed one-day captain in 2015
There goes the IPL contracts for Morgan & Buttler.
The England and Wales Cricket Board are investigating historic tweets posted by senior players Jos Buttler and Eoin Morgan after they appeared to mimic Indian people saying “Sir” in posts sent in 2017 and 2018.
The messages have been widely circulated on Twitter in the wake of the ECB’s decision to suspend Ollie Robinson for posts that were made in 2012 and 2013 when he was still a teenager.
Screenshots have also been shared of a message by Buttler in which he says “I always reply sir no1 else like me like you like me” and, separately, Morgan includes Buttler in a message which says, “Sir you're my favourite batsman”.
Some messages have since been deleted but, in the wake of the ECB’s crackdown over social media use, the governing body will investigate the latest posts to have come to light and decide whether action needs to be taken.
Although there are questions over the precise context of the tweets, they were written at a time when Buttler and Morgan were established England players and have caused offence on social media. Buttler is the current England vice-captain and he plays for the Rajasthan Royals in the Indian Premier League.
Morgan, who plays for the Kolkata Knight Riders in the Indian Premier League, is the all-time leading run scorer and most capped player for England in limited overs matches, having been appointed one-day captain in 2015
I doubt it will have any impact on their IPL contracts. I suspect the Indians couldn’t care less.
Presumably the ECB will now have to do something though.
They hired David Warner knowing he’s an actual cheat, liar, racist bully and crook. Are they really going to get worked up over this?
There would be something of an irony if ECB action for mocking indian linguistic mannerisms leads to them spending less time playing cricket for England and more time playing cricket in India.
If that's true then we're in this until 2022. I think it's time to leave the country, freedom just won't exist here in any meaningful sense because the government has been captured by the doom mongering scientists who want to keep everyone locked up forever.
Not that it’s at the forefront but delays to June 21st, especially a four week (minimum) delay must have serious implications for some massive U.K. sporting events. We are a major host for the European Championships, Wimbledon is start of July, British Grand Prix from 16th. Where does it end...?
Covid has if nothing been a showcase for amazing contradictions and inconsistencies, so it would not remotely surprise me to see all of those things going ahead with some crowds whilst at the same time the government freaking out and extending other restrictions.
I can't tell whether you are playing a tiny violin about Craig Murray losing, or Scotland's high judicial system going to hell in a handcart.
Malc is right imo on this - Murray did no more than nearly a whole football team of journalists, and I think the only ones that have been gone for are Murray and one other who are both broadly sympathetic to Salmond.
The U.K. Supreme Court is going to kick that straight out, surely?
He didn’t name names, and you couldn’t work out names from his posts.
You could, if you already knew the names, work backwards, but that’s the wrong way around.
The UKSC has no jurisdiction in Scottish criminal matters. There's no appeal from the Scottish High Court.
So why did they need to reject an application if one is not possible?
CM's case for getting leave from the SCUK to appeal to the SCUK looks weak. "All the other boys did it too" is essentially saying that the prosecutors abused process by bringing the case against him in particular but not against the other boys. If he said that at his trial then the matter has already been decided and it's not something you can appeal to the SCUK about in a Scottish criminal case. If he didn't say it, then ditto. He should forget that track because it won't lead anywhere.
I doubt he will be allowed to appeal on the grounds that the doctrine of jigsaw identification is cobblers either.
And saying nobody could have identified the witnesses using what he wrote in his blog has little mileage. (No inside information was required to do precisely that, and not a lot of brains were needed either.)
What remains is very tenuous. He'll have to argue that he didn't get the fair trial that he was entitled to under the European Convention on Human Rights. But in what way didn't he? He keeps saying he had a right as a journalist to report the defence case, but there's no First Amendment here and if he thinks the order against him was wrong he should have gone to court to get it lifted or nullified, eventually taking it to the SCUK if necessary because the SCUK does have the authority to strike down the section of the Contempt of Court Act that empowers a judge to make the kind of order that was slapped on him that he was later found to have breached. Instead he went to his keyboard and posted to his blog. Really bad move.
If I were advising him I'd say prepare for doing time or run.
Going by what he's written on his blog, he seems to have been naive enough to think he'd get away with a non-custodial if he was convicted of contempt of court. Seriously?
If he wants to fight, then the best thing tactically would be to goad Nicola Sturgeon into getting involved somehow.
Alex Salmond, although innocent of course of the serious crimes of which he was accused, is nonetheless an utterly dishonourable cad for not giving Murray his public support. He doesn't even say "I have a view about his action but I will wait until the conclusion of the judicial process before commenting". He just keeps his mouth completely shut. Arsehole.
Stunning indeed. Fauci really says this. Go to 1:38
‘Fauci's words are stunning: "You don't wanna go to Hoboken New Jersey or to Fairfax Virginia to be studying the bat-human interface. THAT MIGHT LEAD TO AN OUTBREAK. So you go to China.”’
How does Fauci survive these remarks? He’s now admitting he funded gain-of-function research to make bat coronaviruses nastier. And the reason he funded this science in Wuhan is because such research is dangerous, might cause a pandemic, and he didn’t want to take that risk in America
I’m struggling to find an alternative explanation for his words
That seems incredibly aggressively clipped. Would love to see the surrounding context.
I've watched it all, and debated it with some other lab-leakers. Yes, we're a tribe! I am actually talking with Richard Ebright, the Prof of Chemistry at Rutgers, and one of the leading early doubters about natural, non-lab zoonosis
Anyway we have decided to give Fauci the benefit of the doubt, to an extent, on this quote. He is probably trying to say, in a garbled way, that it is better to do the research in China because that is where the bat-interface is - ie in the caves of Yunnan - so there's no point in spreading the risk of a leak by bringing the research back to the USA. He's not saying Chinese lives are worth less
However, he is, it seems, admitting that this research IS dangerous, and might cause an outbreak
Elsewhere in the same interview Fauci tells two outright lies. He suggests the Wuhan lab is excellent and reputable (it isn't, US observers raised grave fears about Wuhan's biosecuirity in 2017) and he denies any link between the lab and the Chinese military, which is nonsense: there is ample evidence of links, including a State Department report in early 2020
Why is Fauci telling all these apparent lies? He knows he's in deep shit. I expect one day soon he will be grilled about all this much more forensically
A small lab leak in China which killed a few dozen would mean fuck all.
A small lab leak in the USA which killed a few dozen would get you in serious legal problems.
Actually, as small lab leak in China could result in the Director's execution.
Which would give them something of an incentive to cover problems up.
But what would worry some US topbods more - someone in China being executed or themselves facing legal action in the USA ?
Quite a few people in the UK are also in the firing line. Daszak (a Brit). Horton at the Lancet. The editors of Nature. Farrar at the Wellcome Trust. Vallance is implicated: he was at the virtual meeting when Fauci allegedly revealed the USG's suspicions of a lab leak - even as they told the dumb public this was a *racist conspiracy theory*.
There goes the IPL contracts for Morgan & Buttler.
The England and Wales Cricket Board are investigating historic tweets posted by senior players Jos Buttler and Eoin Morgan after they appeared to mimic Indian people saying “Sir” in posts sent in 2017 and 2018.
The messages have been widely circulated on Twitter in the wake of the ECB’s decision to suspend Ollie Robinson for posts that were made in 2012 and 2013 when he was still a teenager.
Screenshots have also been shared of a message by Buttler in which he says “I always reply sir no1 else like me like you like me” and, separately, Morgan includes Buttler in a message which says, “Sir you're my favourite batsman”.
Some messages have since been deleted but, in the wake of the ECB’s crackdown over social media use, the governing body will investigate the latest posts to have come to light and decide whether action needs to be taken.
Although there are questions over the precise context of the tweets, they were written at a time when Buttler and Morgan were established England players and have caused offence on social media. Buttler is the current England vice-captain and he plays for the Rajasthan Royals in the Indian Premier League.
Morgan, who plays for the Kolkata Knight Riders in the Indian Premier League, is the all-time leading run scorer and most capped player for England in limited overs matches, having been appointed one-day captain in 2015
I doubt it will have any impact on their IPL contracts. I suspect the Indians couldn’t care less.
Presumably the ECB will now have to do something though.
They hired David Warner knowing he’s an actual cheat, liar, racist bully and crook. Are they really going to get worked up over this?
There would be something of an irony if ECB action for mocking indian linguistic mannerisms leads to them spending less time playing cricket for England and more time playing cricket in India.
I don’t think that time is too far away for Morgan anyway. Losing Buttler would be a big blow for the one day team, not necessarily for the Test team.
I'm coming round to Covid passports for the double vaxxed so we won't have to endure any further lockdown restrictions.
The system is currently offering me Sat 14 August for my second jab (11 weeks after my first), but I’m not booking for two reasons.
Firstly I was told at my first jab to wait for my GP to phone me and book me in for my second jab, which would be 8-10 weeks after my first. Secondly, 14 August is the first day of the season and I would like to be at the first game back. So I’m happy to leave it until later in July before committing.
If the government says that I can’t go to football until x days after my second jab, I will go anyway and protest outside the ground.
They've done an interesting thing to Reading. Two former marginals been carved up into dead certain Labour and certain Con seats. When I was having a go at doing the boundaries myself it was just about the only way that Berkshire semi-worked.
Slightly favours the Tories perhaps - Reading East was long term a more solid Labour seat than Reading West a Tory one I think.
If that's true then we're in this until 2022. I think it's time to leave the country, freedom just won't exist here in any meaningful sense because the government has been captured by the doom mongering scientists who want to keep everyone locked up forever.
It is more that the scientists have been captured by the incompetent government. If Delta had not been so widely seeded so early then we would not be in this mess. The percentage change in reported weekly cases keeps going up, every day. It’s at just over 60% at the moment. If it simply stops at that figure then this time next month we will be at 40,000 cases per day - roughly where we were at Christmas. If it keeps going up then we will be there, and beyond, a lot quicker. That’s further lockdown territory. All because Johnson didn’t want to upset Modi to get a trade deal.
It’s not “doom mongering scientists” who will be at fault if that happens. It will be Johnson’s determination to go to Delhi long after it was clear that was not possible. Hopefully it won’t and the hopeful trajectory of Bolton will be followed but if it does then don’t blame the scientists, Blame Johnson.
Stunning indeed. Fauci really says this. Go to 1:38
‘Fauci's words are stunning: "You don't wanna go to Hoboken New Jersey or to Fairfax Virginia to be studying the bat-human interface. THAT MIGHT LEAD TO AN OUTBREAK. So you go to China.”’
How does Fauci survive these remarks? He’s now admitting he funded gain-of-function research to make bat coronaviruses nastier. And the reason he funded this science in Wuhan is because such research is dangerous, might cause a pandemic, and he didn’t want to take that risk in America
I’m struggling to find an alternative explanation for his words
That seems incredibly aggressively clipped. Would love to see the surrounding context.
I've watched it all, and debated it with some other lab-leakers. Yes, we're a tribe! I am actually talking with Richard Ebright, the Prof of Chemistry at Rutgers, and one of the leading early doubters about natural, non-lab zoonosis
Anyway we have decided to give Fauci the benefit of the doubt, to an extent, on this quote. He is probably trying to say, in a garbled way, that it is better to do the research in China because that is where the bat-interface is - ie in the caves of Yunnan - so there's no point in spreading the risk of a leak by bringing the research back to the USA. He's not saying Chinese lives are worth less
However, he is, it seems, admitting that this research IS dangerous, and might cause an outbreak
Elsewhere in the same interview Fauci tells two outright lies. He suggests the Wuhan lab is excellent and reputable (it isn't, US observers raised grave fears about Wuhan's biosecuirity in 2017) and he denies any link between the lab and the Chinese military, which is nonsense: there is ample evidence of links, including a State Department report in early 2020
Why is Fauci telling all these apparent lies? He knows he's in deep shit. I expect one day soon he will be grilled about all this much more forensically
A small lab leak in China which killed a few dozen would mean fuck all.
A small lab leak in the USA which killed a few dozen would get you in serious legal problems.
Actually, as small lab leak in China could result in the Director's execution.
Which would give them something of an incentive to cover problems up.
But what would worry some US topbods more - someone in China being executed or themselves facing legal action in the USA ?
Quite a few people in the UK are also in the firing line. Daszak (a Brit). Horton at the Lancet. The editors of Nature. Farrar at the Wellcome Trust. Vallance is implicated: he was at the virtual meeting when Fauci allegedly revealed the USG's suspicions of a lab leak - even as they told the dumb public this was a *racist conspiracy theory*.
If that's true then we're in this until 2022. I think it's time to leave the country, freedom just won't exist here in any meaningful sense because the government has been captured by the doom mongering scientists who want to keep everyone locked up forever.
Not that it’s at the forefront but delays to June 21st, especially a four week (minimum) delay must have serious implications for some massive U.K. sporting events. We are a major host for the European Championships, Wimbledon is start of July, British Grand Prix from 16th. Where does it end...?
Covid has if nothing been a showcase for amazing contradictions and inconsistencies, so it would not remotely surprise me to see all of those things going ahead with some crowds whilst at the same time the government freaking out and extending other restrictions.
The government can treat the post 21 June Euro 2020 games as 'Covid test events' with permitted crowds steadily increasing up to 90,000 for the final...
Stunning indeed. Fauci really says this. Go to 1:38
‘Fauci's words are stunning: "You don't wanna go to Hoboken New Jersey or to Fairfax Virginia to be studying the bat-human interface. THAT MIGHT LEAD TO AN OUTBREAK. So you go to China.”’
How does Fauci survive these remarks? He’s now admitting he funded gain-of-function research to make bat coronaviruses nastier. And the reason he funded this science in Wuhan is because such research is dangerous, might cause a pandemic, and he didn’t want to take that risk in America
I’m struggling to find an alternative explanation for his words
That seems incredibly aggressively clipped. Would love to see the surrounding context.
I've watched it all, and debated it with some other lab-leakers. Yes, we're a tribe! I am actually talking with Richard Ebright, the Prof of Chemistry at Rutgers, and one of the leading early doubters about natural, non-lab zoonosis
Anyway we have decided to give Fauci the benefit of the doubt, to an extent, on this quote. He is probably trying to say, in a garbled way, that it is better to do the research in China because that is where the bat-interface is - ie in the caves of Yunnan - so there's no point in spreading the risk of a leak by bringing the research back to the USA. He's not saying Chinese lives are worth less
However, he is, it seems, admitting that this research IS dangerous, and might cause an outbreak
Elsewhere in the same interview Fauci tells two outright lies. He suggests the Wuhan lab is excellent and reputable (it isn't, US observers raised grave fears about Wuhan's biosecuirity in 2017) and he denies any link between the lab and the Chinese military, which is nonsense: there is ample evidence of links, including a State Department report in early 2020
Why is Fauci telling all these apparent lies? He knows he's in deep shit. I expect one day soon he will be grilled about all this much more forensically
A small lab leak in China which killed a few dozen would mean fuck all.
A small lab leak in the USA which killed a few dozen would get you in serious legal problems.
Actually, as small lab leak in China could result in the Director's execution.
Which would give them something of an incentive to cover problems up.
But what would worry some US topbods more - someone in China being executed or themselves facing legal action in the USA ?
Quite a few people in the UK are also in the firing line. Daszak (a Brit). Horton at the Lancet. The editors of Nature. Farrar at the Wellcome Trust. Vallance is implicated: he was at the virtual meeting when Fauci allegedly revealed the USG's suspicions of a lab leak - even as they told the dumb public this was a *racist conspiracy theory*.
If that's true then we're in this until 2022. I think it's time to leave the country, freedom just won't exist here in any meaningful sense because the government has been captured by the doom mongering scientists who want to keep everyone locked up forever.
It is more that the scientists have been captured by the incompetent government. If Delta had not been so widely seeded so early then we would not be in this mess. The percentage change in reported weekly cases keeps going up, every day. It’s at just over 60% at the moment. If it simply stops at that figure then this time next month we will be at 40,000 cases per day - roughly where we were at Christmas. If it keeps going up then we will be there, and beyond, a lot quicker. That’s further lockdown territory. All because Johnson didn’t want to upset Modi to get a trade deal.
It’s not “doom mongering scientists” who will be at fault if that happens. It will be Johnson’s determination to go to Delhi long after it was clear that was not possible. Hopefully it won’t and the hopeful trajectory of Bolton will be followed but if it does then don’t blame the scientists, Blame Johnson.
If that scenario is true though, it will be all over Europe again. Because they are less vaxxed, unlocking as fast, if not faster, and not testing for it. So either it will pass relatively harmlessly through unvaccinated youngsters... or everyone will be screwed. I just don’t buy this idea the the U.K. is uniquely affected and vulnerable.
In the Sixties flagrant racism was quite common. We have all moved on quite a bit from then, the past is a foreign country. They do things differently there.
If that's true then we're in this until 2022. I think it's time to leave the country, freedom just won't exist here in any meaningful sense because the government has been captured by the doom mongering scientists who want to keep everyone locked up forever.
It is more that the scientists have been captured by the incompetent government. If Delta had not been so widely seeded so early then we would not be in this mess. The percentage change in reported weekly cases keeps going up, every day. It’s at just over 60% at the moment. If it simply stops at that figure then this time next month we will be at 40,000 cases per day - roughly where we were at Christmas. If it keeps going up then we will be there, and beyond, a lot quicker. That’s further lockdown territory. All because Johnson didn’t want to upset Modi to get a trade deal.
It’s not “doom mongering scientists” who will be at fault if that happens. It will be Johnson’s determination to go to Delhi long after it was clear that was not possible. Hopefully it won’t and the hopeful trajectory of Bolton will be followed but if it does then don’t blame the scientists, Blame Johnson.
I'm afraid that is absolutely right. And the narrative will be - UK government completely fucked up the first stages of the virus, then saved themselves with a brilliant vaccine policy, then threw it all away, and worse, with an insane, inexplicable mistake (made time and again) in not closing the borders
If that's true then we're in this until 2022. I think it's time to leave the country, freedom just won't exist here in any meaningful sense because the government has been captured by the doom mongering scientists who want to keep everyone locked up forever.
It is more that the scientists have been captured by the incompetent government. If Delta had not been so widely seeded so early then we would not be in this mess. The percentage change in reported weekly cases keeps going up, every day. It’s at just over 60% at the moment. If it simply stops at that figure then this time next month we will be at 40,000 cases per day - roughly where we were at Christmas. If it keeps going up then we will be there, and beyond, a lot quicker. That’s further lockdown territory. All because Johnson didn’t want to upset Modi to get a trade deal.
It’s not “doom mongering scientists” who will be at fault if that happens. It will be Johnson’s determination to go to Delhi long after it was clear that was not possible. Hopefully it won’t and the hopeful trajectory of Bolton will be followed but if it does then don’t blame the scientists, Blame Johnson.
If that scenario is true though, it will be all over Europe again. Because they are less vaxxed, unlocking as fast, if not faster, and not testing for it. So either it will pass relatively harmlessly through unvaccinated youngsters... or everyone will be screwed. I just don’t buy this idea the the U.K. is uniquely affected and vulnerable.
It was not as widely seeded in other parts of Europe. Yes, it will spread there, but later and from a narrower base allowing them to get vaccinated in time. We shot ourselves in the foot over this.
If that's true then we're in this until 2022. I think it's time to leave the country, freedom just won't exist here in any meaningful sense because the government has been captured by the doom mongering scientists who want to keep everyone locked up forever.
It is more that the scientists have been captured by the incompetent government. If Delta had not been so widely seeded so early then we would not be in this mess. The percentage change in reported weekly cases keeps going up, every day. It’s at just over 60% at the moment. If it simply stops at that figure then this time next month we will be at 40,000 cases per day - roughly where we were at Christmas. If it keeps going up then we will be there, and beyond, a lot quicker. That’s further lockdown territory. All because Johnson didn’t want to upset Modi to get a trade deal.
It’s not “doom mongering scientists” who will be at fault if that happens. It will be Johnson’s determination to go to Delhi long after it was clear that was not possible. Hopefully it won’t and the hopeful trajectory of Bolton will be followed but if it does then don’t blame the scientists, Blame Johnson.
But how is the question - this is the Indian variant tearing through the young (who are unaffected) and the antivaxxers (and who gives a toss if they die). Those numbers are stupid, to say the least.
In the Sixties flagrant racism was quite common. We have all moved on quite a bit from then, the past is a foreign country. They do things differently there.
Yet currently.
Documents also shed light on Queen’s ongoing exemption from race and sex discrimination laws
Stunning indeed. Fauci really says this. Go to 1:38
‘Fauci's words are stunning: "You don't wanna go to Hoboken New Jersey or to Fairfax Virginia to be studying the bat-human interface. THAT MIGHT LEAD TO AN OUTBREAK. So you go to China.”’
How does Fauci survive these remarks? He’s now admitting he funded gain-of-function research to make bat coronaviruses nastier. And the reason he funded this science in Wuhan is because such research is dangerous, might cause a pandemic, and he didn’t want to take that risk in America
I’m struggling to find an alternative explanation for his words
That seems incredibly aggressively clipped. Would love to see the surrounding context.
I've watched it all, and debated it with some other lab-leakers. Yes, we're a tribe! I am actually talking with Richard Ebright, the Prof of Chemistry at Rutgers, and one of the leading early doubters about natural, non-lab zoonosis
Anyway we have decided to give Fauci the benefit of the doubt, to an extent, on this quote. He is probably trying to say, in a garbled way, that it is better to do the research in China because that is where the bat-interface is - ie in the caves of Yunnan - so there's no point in spreading the risk of a leak by bringing the research back to the USA. He's not saying Chinese lives are worth less
However, he is, it seems, admitting that this research IS dangerous, and might cause an outbreak
Elsewhere in the same interview Fauci tells two outright lies. He suggests the Wuhan lab is excellent and reputable (it isn't, US observers raised grave fears about Wuhan's biosecuirity in 2017) and he denies any link between the lab and the Chinese military, which is nonsense: there is ample evidence of links, including a State Department report in early 2020
Why is Fauci telling all these apparent lies? He knows he's in deep shit. I expect one day soon he will be grilled about all this much more forensically
A small lab leak in China which killed a few dozen would mean fuck all.
A small lab leak in the USA which killed a few dozen would get you in serious legal problems.
Actually, as small lab leak in China could result in the Director's execution.
Which would give them something of an incentive to cover problems up.
But what would worry some US topbods more - someone in China being executed or themselves facing legal action in the USA ?
Quite a few people in the UK are also in the firing line. Daszak (a Brit). Horton at the Lancet. The editors of Nature. Farrar at the Wellcome Trust. Vallance is implicated: he was at the virtual meeting when Fauci allegedly revealed the USG's suspicions of a lab leak - even as they told the dumb public this was a *racist conspiracy theory*.
It lab leak theory being true and it being a “racist conspiracy theory” are not actually mutually inconsistent.
True but uninteresting
But it is at the heart of the justification for a “cover up” (if it happened). If Trump had actually been interested in working with his intelligence agencies/scientists/whatever rather than seeing all of them as part of a massive conspiracy out to get him, then they would have been more relaxed about such theories being explored publicly, rather than need shutting down.
I can’t imagine India is particularly woke. I noticed one or two Indian cricketers were supportive of Robinson. It’s a shame that the press automatically turn to Carberry who has his gripes with the ECB and motormouth Ramprakash rather than the masses of other former cricketers who would have a more measured approach, but I suppose they wouldn’t give the media the fan for the flames they crave.
Stunning indeed. Fauci really says this. Go to 1:38
‘Fauci's words are stunning: "You don't wanna go to Hoboken New Jersey or to Fairfax Virginia to be studying the bat-human interface. THAT MIGHT LEAD TO AN OUTBREAK. So you go to China.”’
How does Fauci survive these remarks? He’s now admitting he funded gain-of-function research to make bat coronaviruses nastier. And the reason he funded this science in Wuhan is because such research is dangerous, might cause a pandemic, and he didn’t want to take that risk in America
I’m struggling to find an alternative explanation for his words
That seems incredibly aggressively clipped. Would love to see the surrounding context.
I've watched it all, and debated it with some other lab-leakers. Yes, we're a tribe! I am actually talking with Richard Ebright, the Prof of Chemistry at Rutgers, and one of the leading early doubters about natural, non-lab zoonosis
Anyway we have decided to give Fauci the benefit of the doubt, to an extent, on this quote. He is probably trying to say, in a garbled way, that it is better to do the research in China because that is where the bat-interface is - ie in the caves of Yunnan - so there's no point in spreading the risk of a leak by bringing the research back to the USA. He's not saying Chinese lives are worth less
However, he is, it seems, admitting that this research IS dangerous, and might cause an outbreak
Elsewhere in the same interview Fauci tells two outright lies. He suggests the Wuhan lab is excellent and reputable (it isn't, US observers raised grave fears about Wuhan's biosecuirity in 2017) and he denies any link between the lab and the Chinese military, which is nonsense: there is ample evidence of links, including a State Department report in early 2020
Why is Fauci telling all these apparent lies? He knows he's in deep shit. I expect one day soon he will be grilled about all this much more forensically
A small lab leak in China which killed a few dozen would mean fuck all.
A small lab leak in the USA which killed a few dozen would get you in serious legal problems.
Actually, as small lab leak in China could result in the Director's execution.
Which would give them something of an incentive to cover problems up.
But what would worry some US topbods more - someone in China being executed or themselves facing legal action in the USA ?
Quite a few people in the UK are also in the firing line. Daszak (a Brit). Horton at the Lancet. The editors of Nature. Farrar at the Wellcome Trust. Vallance is implicated: he was at the virtual meeting when Fauci allegedly revealed the USG's suspicions of a lab leak - even as they told the dumb public this was a *racist conspiracy theory*.
It lab leak theory being true and it being a “racist conspiracy theory” are not actually mutually inconsistent.
True but uninteresting
But it is at the heart of the justification for a “cover up” (if it happened). If Trump had actually been interested in working with his intelligence agencies/scientists/whatever rather than seeing all of them as part of a massive conspiracy out to get him, then they would have been more relaxed about such theories being explored publicly, rather than need shutting down.
Bollocks
Trump was an odious madman, but the lab leak hypothesis was clearly plausible, and clearly needed investigating, from the get go. Blaming Trump is a feeble excuse advanced by people who are embarrassed by their earlier errors, or, worse, incriminated in the cover-up
PS: a cover up DEFINITELY happened. Read this entirely convincing Vanity Fair piece (or many many others)
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If he was worried about racism he wouldn't have closed off Pakistan and Bangladesh.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/big-sturgeon-100-years-vanderhoof-1.6057166
The largest Nechako white sturgeon on record was caught and released on the Nechako River near Vanderhoof, B.C., earlier this month.
Weighing in at 152 kilograms (336 pounds) and measuring 2.9 metres (9.6 feet), the huge fish was caught by staff at the Nechako White Sturgeon Conservation Centre (NWSCC).
"It was really an amazing experience," Jordan Cranmer, a junior researcher and outreach technician at the centre, told Carolina de Ryk on CBC's Daybreak North.
"As she got closer and closer to the boat, we really realized that we were in for a record."
The sturgeon is estimated to be nearly 100 years old, is almost blind and remarkably fertile, says Cranmer. . . .
Today is 4 weeks but more like 2 weeks.
I went to Woking again today - travelled from East London - delighted to see the Drain back in operation, South West Railways put on a 12-coach train (presumably because there were 12 of us wanting to travel). Exercising social distancing when it's just you in the carriage isn't too difficult.
The huge difference on the Jubilee is the absence of the Canary Wharf workers - the service is now tolerable with seats and little or no standing.
This Working at Home really is wonderful as I'm sure you'll agree !!
Embarrassing ricket though, for sure
Anyway, it is insane. As soon as the Indian variant emerged, they should have shut the fucking Indian frontier. We would now be cruising to our allotted unlockdown date, easily winning the vaccine-v-variant race.
Boris spaffed our vaccine bonus up the frigging wall. And now lockdown might go on forever
NIH lifts 3-year ban on funding risky virus studies
More than 3 years after imposing a moratorium on U.S. funding for certain studies with dangerous viruses, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in Bethesda, Maryland, today lifted this so-called "pause" and announced a new plan for reviewing such research.
Concerns over so-called “gain-of-function” (GOF) studies that make pathogens more potent or likely to spread in people erupted in 2011, when Kawaoka’s team and Ron Fouchier’s lab at Erasmus Medical Center in Rotterdam, the Netherlands, announced that they had modified the H5N1 bird flu virus to enable it to spread between ferrets. Such studies could help experts prepare for pandemics, but pose risks if the souped-up pathogen escapes the lab.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/12/nih-lifts-3-year-ban-funding-risky-virus-studies
Esher and Walton will be a lot harder for the LibDems than its current majority suggests.
I've been linking to these same articles for weeks.
It came from the lab!
So whatever “data” they were anticipating for decisions in March is now just being blatantly overridden
Only civil servants and ministers can make decisions over the railways when they are in public ownership, and passengers are not a high priority for them.
But I’m not a fan of slut shaming. After all, I’m not without sin…
Not approved for vaccinating but actually vaccinating.
I've read that Italy and Poland are currently vaccinating 12-15 year olds.
If so doesn't that suggest that they're rapidly running out of people wishing to be vaccinated ?
My Medical School didn't.
‘I’m not the red woman. Take your own bloody pants off.’
Whatever happens, the vaccines will work enough for everyone, and sooner than the autumn. But I really thought that, this time, for once, the government wouldn't muck things up by preliminary hype.
It's not (entirely) their fault that the vaccination programme isn't quite where we wanted it to be by now. It's not (entirely) their fault that they let the new variant in before the UK was ready.
But there's also a good chunk of "They botched this. Again. Because they're not fit to govern."
Does anyone outside of some very traditional or posh or official government places ?
And is there a reason you're asking ?
(It got decapitated by some random nutter for reasons which I forget.)
Anyway we have decided to give Fauci the benefit of the doubt, to an extent, on this quote. He is probably trying to say, in a garbled way, that it is better to do the research in China because that is where the bat-interface is - ie in the caves of Yunnan - so there's no point in spreading the risk of a leak by bringing the research back to the USA. He's not saying Chinese lives are worth less
However, he is, it seems, admitting that this research IS dangerous, and might cause an outbreak
Elsewhere in the same interview Fauci tells two outright lies. He suggests the Wuhan lab is excellent and reputable (it isn't, US observers raised grave fears about Wuhan's biosecuirity in 2017) and he denies any link between the lab and the Chinese military, which is nonsense: there is ample evidence of links, including a State Department report in early 2020
Why is Fauci telling all these apparent lies? He knows he's in deep shit. I expect one day soon he will be grilled about all this much more forensically
** This would also help to explain his chaotic personal finances.
BTW Just off the Zoom from a very interesting discussion of the Lab Leak hyphothesis. One of the leading scientists pushing the plausibility of the hypothesis (note, the plausibility of, not the fact of) mused that the original resistance of the scientific community to it was a knee-jerk response to Trump's insistence that it came from the lab. Oh, the irony.
I’m in a pub now - about 30 people, two members of staff. How on earth do they afford to start enforcing double vax rules?
What makes it even more exciting, is that you can do original detective work by yourself, sitting at home, on a laptop. I've done some myself. Felt like a proper Sherlock
See this remarkable story
"Exclusive: How Amateur Sleuths Broke the Wuhan Lab Story and Embarrassed the Media"
https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-how-amateur-sleuths-broke-wuhan-lab-story-embarrassed-media-1596958
One of the main investigators that blew this story open is an unemployed Indian dude, just sitting in his kitchen. A brilliant article
A small lab leak in the USA which killed a few dozen would get you in serious legal problems.
They will make a decision by a week Friday.
The data is simply meh, and even if our vaccination is slightly delayed, there’s no evidence the NHS is under stress.
Not saying that's what they are doing, just that it seems a plausible strategy,
Talking of which, I think vaccinating the 18-30 year olds that which to have one in the UK with have a mammoth effect on bringing down infections.
The problem is that they’re so pleased with being top of the table for genomic testing and variant identification, that they’re failing to question whether it is actually helping.
There was the horrible possibility that if Trump's lab thesis was proved right, he would be vindicated, and win the election. That must have warped a few brains, and persuaded sensible people to lie
BTW I'm still not wholly convinced that it came from the lab. Tho I think it is the most likely explanation. What is indisputable is that there was a cover-up, both in America and in Britain, as the scientific Establishment tried to squash the Lab Leak hypothesis.
Nature and The Lancet were willing accomplices
https://unherd.com/2021/06/beijings-useful-idiots/
The England and Wales Cricket Board are investigating historic tweets posted by senior players Jos Buttler and Eoin Morgan after they appeared to mimic Indian people saying “Sir” in posts sent in 2017 and 2018.
The messages have been widely circulated on Twitter in the wake of the ECB’s decision to suspend Ollie Robinson for posts that were made in 2012 and 2013 when he was still a teenager.
Screenshots have also been shared of a message by Buttler in which he says “I always reply sir no1 else like me like you like me” and, separately, Morgan includes Buttler in a message which says, “Sir you're my favourite batsman”.
Some messages have since been deleted but, in the wake of the ECB’s crackdown over social media use, the governing body will investigate the latest posts to have come to light and decide whether action needs to be taken.
Although there are questions over the precise context of the tweets, they were written at a time when Buttler and Morgan were established England players and have caused offence on social media. Buttler is the current England vice-captain and he plays for the Rajasthan Royals in the Indian Premier League.
Morgan, who plays for the Kolkata Knight Riders in the Indian Premier League, is the all-time leading run scorer and most capped player for England in limited overs matches, having been appointed one-day captain in 2015
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2021/06/08/ecb-face-questions-historic-jos-buttler-eoin-morgan-social-media/
School assessments: Education secretary makes 'cast-iron' guarantee
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57405037
Scotland is already shaping up to be a worse mess than last year given the bizarre system they have put in place. Giving a pledge like that is just asking for trouble.
I’m aware that this has very personal implications for a number of posters. But it’s no good blinking at facts.
But what would worry some US topbods more - someone in China being executed or themselves facing legal action in the USA ?
Presumably the ECB will now feel they have to do something though.
It’s just absurd.
If you'd be willing, could I pm you?
(If any other PB'ers are knowledgeable on this topic the same question applies!)
--AS
She should be cancelled.
Gentle hint: try being less predictable, and funnier?
https://www.supremecourt.uk/docs/jurisdiction-of-the-supreme-court-in-scottish-appeals-human-rights-the-scotland-act-2012-and-the-courts-reform-scotland-act-2014.pdf
CM's case for getting leave from the SCUK to appeal to the SCUK looks weak. "All the other boys did it too" is essentially saying that the prosecutors abused process by bringing the case against him in particular but not against the other boys. If he said that at his trial then the matter has already been decided and it's not something you can appeal to the SCUK about in a Scottish criminal case. If he didn't say it, then ditto. He should forget that track because it won't lead anywhere.
I doubt he will be allowed to appeal on the grounds that the doctrine of jigsaw identification is cobblers either.
And saying nobody could have identified the witnesses using what he wrote in his blog has little mileage. (No inside information was required to do precisely that, and not a lot of brains were needed either.)
What remains is very tenuous. He'll have to argue that he didn't get the fair trial that he was entitled to under the European Convention on Human Rights. But in what way didn't he? He keeps saying he had a right as a journalist to report the defence case, but there's no First Amendment here and if he thinks the order against him was wrong he should have gone to court to get it lifted or nullified, eventually taking it to the SCUK if necessary because the SCUK does have the authority to strike down the section of the Contempt of Court Act that empowers a judge to make the kind of order that was slapped on him that he was later found to have breached. Instead he went to his keyboard and posted to his blog. Really bad move.
If I were advising him I'd say prepare for doing time or run.
Going by what he's written on his blog, he seems to have been naive enough to think he'd get away with a non-custodial if he was convicted of contempt of court. Seriously?
If he wants to fight, then the best thing tactically would be to goad Nicola Sturgeon into getting involved somehow.
Alex Salmond, although innocent of course of the serious crimes of which he was accused, is nonetheless an utterly dishonourable cad for not giving Murray his public support. He doesn't even say "I have a view about his action but I will wait until the conclusion of the judicial process before commenting". He just keeps his mouth completely shut. Arsehole.
Just imagine if she had a no Jews policy.
See here:
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1401756704472195073?s=20
Firstly I was told at my first jab to wait for my GP to phone me and book me in for my second jab, which would be 8-10 weeks after my first. Secondly, 14 August is the first day of the season and I would like to be at the first game back. So I’m happy to leave it until later in July before committing.
If the government says that I can’t go to football until x days after my second jab, I will go anyway and protest outside the ground.
You're much better on other subjects.
It’s not “doom mongering scientists” who will be at fault if that happens. It will be Johnson’s determination to go to Delhi long after it was clear that was not possible. Hopefully it won’t and the hopeful trajectory of Bolton will be followed but if it does then don’t blame the scientists, Blame Johnson.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/02/buckingham-palace-banned-ethnic-minorities-from-office-roles-papers-reveal
How's Dore tonight?
Documents also shed light on Queen’s ongoing exemption from race and sex discrimination laws
https://twitter.com/nadine_writes/status/1402292181222756361?s=21
Trump was an odious madman, but the lab leak hypothesis was clearly plausible, and clearly needed investigating, from the get go. Blaming Trump is a feeble excuse advanced by people who are embarrassed by their earlier errors, or, worse, incriminated in the cover-up
PS: a cover up DEFINITELY happened. Read this entirely convincing Vanity Fair piece (or many many others)
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-lab-leak-theory-inside-the-fight-to-uncover-covid-19s-origins