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Choosing Jo Cox’s sister might just be enough to save Labour’s bacon in Batley and Spen – politicalb
Choosing Jo Cox’s sister might just be enough to save Labour’s bacon in Batley and Spen – politicalbetting.com
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Smacks of desperation to me, choosing Jo Cox’s sister for the sympathy vote. But worth a try in the circumstances
Conservative 4/7
Labour 6/4
100/1 bar.
My take on current situation: variants will continue to cause issues but our vaccines (both doses!) are effective as an additional layer of protection. We have to move away from harsh restrictions & lockdowns, to data-driven, precise outbreak management using science & logistics.
Devi abandons the zerovidians.
There were allegations of sexual abuse and apologies for 'mistakes'.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/18/brendan-cox-resigns-from-charities-amid-sexual-assault-claims
It was very unlikely that she wasn't going to be the candidate once she threw her hat into the ring - especially as it means Kier can't be blamed for selection if things go wrong (which in this case they won't).
Labour Party Rule must have been a Member for 12 Consecutive months prior to being a Candidate
Labour Candidate has been a member for less than 5 weeks
I think Labour still loses but will do better with this Candidate
We need to move to a stage where we accept COVID is a thing, that unfortunately kills some people, just like lots of other diseases, but for the vast vast majority, we should be moving to a stage where there is little to fear.
Also, I am very confident that as new variants appear the science is now well on top of this (and improving all the time) and so at worse we will just have to keep popping down the village hall to get another jab.
One thing I remember from way back at the start of this, one of the worlds top experts in this field, a man with a long track record in AIDs research, said COVID is the equivalent of the high school drop out (to AIDs which is the honours student).
The reason being, that isn't to say it isn't bloody dangerous, but said at the time there are a number of weaknesses that vaccine makers can go after, not just the spike protein, so he was confident back then there would be vaccine(s) quite quickly.
10 days of isolation isn't just taking away people's leisure, those that can't work from home have real cash that they sorely need not in their pocket.
Borders abbeys well worth visiting, are are Dawyck Botanic Gardens.
https://twitter.com/bothness/status/1396746574638862337?s=20
1/ Today we (
@ONS
) released the second of two #scrollytelling #dataviz pieces in a series on economic inequality. This second article explores income disparities in #England at a neighbourhood level https://ons.gov.uk/visualisations/dvc1371/
Excellent....
Except that, when it comes to my corner of Camden it is total bollocks. Here, a 2 bed flat costs £800,000, and a house £1.5m or so. Most of the houses are now privately owned, there are still some council flats, in the period houses, but not many. A couple of new blocks have replaced old garages etc, all are pricey, and private
There are some rentals, but they are expensive and get wealthy students and young City workers in the main
And this tiny corner is labelled as "quite deprived"?!
Perhaps this is a unique anomaly - but if it is true for the rest of the map then I really hope the government is not relying on this data. Bizarre
She is local, a lecturer, and well-known in her own right for more in common.
Good choice that goes way beyond a sympathy vote.
My view is vaccination should be shown to be the way out of the now over the top restrictions. Vaccinated? Then no masks required. Vaccinated? Then its fine you came up as a contact of a positive test. Crack on lads. You're vaccinated.
Only reason for any limitations whatsoever is that the vaccine rollout isn't finished yet.
And fair enough too. Respect to her, it makes opposition attack ads almost impossible too.
And quite frankly after the utterly inexplicable candidate selection in Hartlepool, going for a sympathy vote is miles better than a "why won't you stupid Brexiteers line up and vote for us" vote.
lol
I've just noticed that the ONS has the *western* side of Chalcot Square, in Primrose Hill, marked as "definitely more deprived"
A house for sale on Chalcot Square (the sides do not differ):
https://www.primelocation.com/for-sale/details/58388496/?search_identifier=c5a6d3b3399ef0ed20f156cb759d8b07
£.5.5 million
Is the rest of the map equally as bad?
I'm thinking Labour Hold, thanks to the choice of candidate.
Night all.
Give Sympathy to keep Keith in place too.
its an interesting metric, but not how I would normally think of as deprivation as such.
It's like they've taken some very narrow data from maybe the 1970s and based it on THAT. I can't explain it otherwise
Remember, a genuine local lecturer, just did better than dismally in Airdrie and Shotts.
It may be the case for many candidates, but not often enough.
Missing man found dead inside Spanish dinosaur statue
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...”We found the body of a man inside the leg of this dinosaur statue. It’s an accidental death; there was no violence. This person got inside the statue’s leg and got trapped. It looks as though he was trying to retrieve a mobile phone, which he’d dropped. It looks like he entered the statue head first and couldn’t get out.”...
This is going to come as shocking news to a lot of London estate agents
"St Pancras Chambers
3 bed Penthouse
Guide Price
£11,500,000"
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/88945540#/
It seems like a good move by Labour, esp the bending of the rules to get her in
Who do you suggest? There's only one Richard Burgon.
St Pancras is indeed magnificent. But.... the most revered gothic building in the world?
A couple of dozen European cathedrals, from Notre Dame to Koln, from Salisbury to Chartres, from York Minster to Milan, say Hi
Perhaps we can all club together and send him a food parcel. Must be tough down there
Far better to play her as just a normal candidate and let the local media bring up the sympathy thing with labour disavowing it and saying while true they are merely standing her as they think she would be an outstanding candidate with much to offer the area.
However I suspect they will instead go full focus on the sister aspect and that combined with the vocal twitterati who will predenounce anyone not voting for her as a knuckle dragging neanderthal racist who must sympathise with britain first and I fully expect labour to lose.
Rather less than the number of council tenants as I remember.
Which possibly makes London real estate look cheap.
Was a bit more scruffy than the other back in 1987.
Wonder how the current residents will take to the levelling up agenda when their teens are offered apprenticeships at care homes?
They've got the maps very accurate for areas in Yorkshire and the East Midlands.
There aren't many council flats left in these areas, but there are some
It is just nuts to call these areas "deprived". Covent Garden? Fitzrovia??
To be charitable, it might just be a London problem: perhaps they are having issues correctly mapping gentrification. Which is why I asked if other areas around England were mapped better
Andy Burnham when eligible
I only hope the meals-on-wheels people can reach him in time
If I'm spending £11.5 million on a swanky flat it better have it's own pool and not some "access to private facilities" for the whole block nonsense.
It is empty.
Belgravia, Knightsbridge, Mayfair, Bayswater, St Johns Wood, most of Marylebone all highly affluent.
North Paddington and much of Pimlico deprived.
Compare the map to voting patterns and its spot on.
How many people actually live in Covent Garden now anyway ?
There are certainly some council flats there.
If you have your way, Labour are finished.
Ditto... Whitehall. lol. And the Houses of Parliament. So they aren't fiddling their expenses after all
It will also be news to the inhabitants of Portland Place, W1, that they should be heading over to the foodbanks tomorrow
My guess is this map is based on old/skewed data - which has missed a lot of gentrification - and it is applied in a way that cannot compute unusual areas like central and inner London
For non-London-based PB-ers, here is a house for sale on Avenue Road
https://www.primelocation.com/for-sale/details/58381041/?search_identifier=069f04ea5984bdf5852705c8f1cf3785
£25 MILLION
It is one of the most expensive streets in the world
The map, in large chunks of central London, is bullshit
They can be in some surprising places in central London, behind posh looking streets.
I noticed that Delancey Street is in a below average area - I'm sure SeanT would prefer that as it gives a George Orwell 'hungry writer living in a garret' image.
AVENUE ROAD, ST JOHN'S WOOD, IS "DEPRIVED"
Come on, let's get together and help them. Start some kind of grass roots PB campaign to feed them. Reach out, offer soup, blankets, anything, before it is all too horribly late
Con + bxp + ind 49%
Which makes this a real nail biter.
In the favor of the government: vaccines + Brexit
Against: this is not as brexity a place as Hartlepool (although still pretty Brexity)
I'd probably make the Conservatives narrow favorites, but only because they have the big 'mo.
If its the latter there can be very nice houses within a stones throw of some very deprived ones.
The posh houses of central London are notorious for being left empty for much of the year.
It beggars belief, quite frankly, that in an advanced, wealthy country like the UK, let alone a world city like London, we tolerate this kind of deprivation. If we don't act soon, cholera and famine will stalk these sad, haunted, forgotten corners
You are in league with the likes of Blue, Casino, Urquart, Mark, D and others who wisely invested their £3 to elect Corbyn as leader and deliver Johnson with an 80 seat majority (and Isam who is desperate to confirm his PMs have to be charismatic theory). These people are now desperate for Starmer to be replaced and apparantly, simply because he reminds them of a dull 1990s Chris Barrie sitcom character. Hmmm, something doesn't smell right to me.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jan/31/inside-london-billionaires-row-derelict-mansions-hampstead
But I do reckon SKS is a dud. I have no interest in moving him on. Labour can do that after the next election.
I wouldn't really like to live there. You can't walk anywhere
Avenue Road has some similarities (a few properties are just as vulgar) but it is much much nicer. You can walk to Regents Park/Primrose Hill in 5 minutes, you can walk to Lords, shops, restaurants, you are just a few minutes from Marylebone High Street and central London.
All the opulent houses are very much occupied year-round, quite a few are ambassadorial I believe (you see armed guards). A big house there would be a grand place to live. Almost perfect, if you want a big house in central London. Hence the prices
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0WEwAOS2nI&t=2s
Could that be screwing with the data? The flats on the same road outweighing the housing?
Makes sense. A couple of years ago it reached peak dereliction. But since then there has been rapid rebuilding (no idea why, billionaire Hong Kongers fleeing?). The entire road (which is very long) is a wall of contractors and building sites and skips and large builders' vans blocking irritated drivers (me)
Let's have a look. Here. Even an ugly flat in a 30s mansion block is.... £1.7m
https://www.primelocation.com/for-sale/details/57315610/?weekly_featured=1&utm_content=featured_listing
Deprived?
Perhaps there is a tiny cluster of council owned crack-houses, near Swiss Cottage, that no one has ever seen, but I doubt it. The map fails in central London, for whatever reasons
A big block of them on Queens Terrace for example and looks like others along Wellington Road and Woronzow Road.
I have a few regular urban walks that I do of an evening, when I don't go down the gym. One takes me around this part of St John's Wood, partly because it is so pleasant, affluent and leafy (and right by Primrose Hill)
If the ONS thinks this is "deprived" then fuck knows what the RICH places look like. They must be carved from crystal
And with that happy dream, goodnight PB
As is often the case in central London the grand houses are on the main roads and the council estates are hidden away.
FPT. The latest Redfield and Wilton poll implies little change over the last month. Their 26th April poll had the Tories on 44% with Labour on 34%. Both parties have now dropped a point to show an unchanged 10% Tory lead.
Why do you keep saying i want Burton.
I have never wanted Burgon.
I voted for Nandy and Rayner