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  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    I'm not sure which is more bemusing, the BBC for blocking out all channels, or the people pretending there's no options other than the BBC.
  • TimTTimT Posts: 6,468

    America is weird.

    They were very quick (desperate?) to take the side of H&M over Megxit and heavily criticised the Royals from a proudly republican point of view - and this was merely weeks ago - BUT they seem strangely moved by Prince Phillip's death and fixated on it.

    What is it? Some schizophrenia? Strange sense of post colonial Stockholm syndrome? Resentful but also admiring of British institutions? Secretly emotionally attached to and invested in them still but can't bear to admit it?

    America and Americans are an enigma. Discuss.

    No mystery. They love Daytime Soaps
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487

    kle4 said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    Well, there are a lot of snowflakes out there. And yes, people who complain about too much coverage within hours of it starting definitely seems snowflakey to me.
    You are entitled to your opinion and you can watch as much coverage as you wish why not watch on BBC1 and BBC2 on two separate sets. BBC4 programming cancelled so the rest of us can watch a black screen

    Fill your sycophantic boots

    Me i am part of the highest number of complaints in history of man about our public broadcaster

    My daughter has just cancelled her licence fee WHAT A SNOWFLAKE!
    He's been dead less than 10 hours.
    No excuse for filling all BBC channels with one programme and suspending all alternative output.

    Is not as if most sycophants can watch all the channels at the same time.
    The BBC is a national broadcaster. This is a hugely significant event in our history and national story. It is being treated with the importance and respect that deserves.

    You have a case if it extends beyond 24-48 hours. For now, you don't.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487
    TimT said:

    America is weird.

    They were very quick (desperate?) to take the side of H&M over Megxit and heavily criticised the Royals from a proudly republican point of view - and this was merely weeks ago - BUT they seem strangely moved by Prince Phillip's death and fixated on it.

    What is it? Some schizophrenia? Strange sense of post colonial Stockholm syndrome? Resentful but also admiring of British institutions? Secretly emotionally attached to and invested in them still but can't bear to admit it?

    America and Americans are an enigma. Discuss.

    No mystery. They love Daytime Soaps
    Hmm. Inadequate answer.

    It's much deeper and more specific than that.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,176

    I'm not sure which is more bemusing, the BBC for blocking out all channels, or the people pretending there's no options other than the BBC.

    Must be a tricky day for the BBC loving, royal family hating lefties.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,080

    I'm not sure which is more bemusing, the BBC for blocking out all channels, or the people pretending there's no options other than the BBC.

    Well those several 1000 people who still claim to only have a black and white telly don't have many options ;-)
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,599
    edited April 2021

    I'm not sure which is more bemusing, the BBC for blocking out all channels, or the people pretending there's no options other than the BBC.

    There’s always Twitter:

    https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1380526691638992901
    “ When a famous straight white male dies, if your first instinct isn't to get on Twitter to gloat and trash his reputation then you clearly have no idea what it takes to be a progressive and compassionate human being.

    #LoveWIns”


    https://mobile.twitter.com/stephenfry/status/1380533992366084096
    “ Well, I for one am very sorry to see the old boy go. But I know there are plenty out there keen to tell us all how little they care. So keen that you might almost think that they … well … care”
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126
    edited April 2021

    kle4 said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    Well, there are a lot of snowflakes out there. And yes, people who complain about too much coverage within hours of it starting definitely seems snowflakey to me.
    You are entitled to your opinion and you can watch as much coverage as you wish why not watch on BBC1 and BBC2 on two separate sets. BBC4 programming cancelled so the rest of us can watch a black screen

    Fill your sycophantic boots

    Me i am part of the highest number of complaints in history of man about our public broadcaster

    My daughter has just cancelled her licence fee WHAT A SNOWFLAKE!
    Yes, that seems like a textbook example of snowflake behaviour - getting histrionically worked up over something incredibly minor and presenting individual choices in response as some grand gesture.

    The key is it is not enough to merely complain, one must complain in an over the top way, seeking some kind of martyr like status for how you are 'suffering' (eg bemoaning how much of an imposition a few hours coverage is, being part of a movement 'highest number of complaints in history of man').

    I've not watched any of the coverage as it happens (other than two 3 minute videos on the BBC site), so have no sycophantic boots to fill. I think it rather telling that you made that assumption because you seem to want your outrage to be the result of something imposed on you by sycophants, rather than, you know, media channels have gone a little over the top for a few hours.

    Get some perspective - a lack of it is a key characteristic of snowflake behaviour.

    Edit: This has been a useful case of demonstrating why I think snowflake is a useful term, and how it can be applied apolitically, since you get snowflakes on all sides of politics and other issues.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868

    I'm not sure which is more bemusing, the BBC for blocking out all channels, or the people pretending there's no options other than the BBC.

    Well those several 1000 people who still claim to only have a black and white telly don't have many options ;-)
    Wouldn’t be so bad, but it’s on the third channel as well.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,865

    GP-led sites will not receive any new first-dose Covid vaccine deliveries at all over the next two weeks, NHS England has said.

    Pulse magazine.

    Yes, that tallies up with getting the last few phase 1 people done before commencing phase 2 in the 3rd and 4th week of April.

    It's not particularly worrying IMO.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126
    edited April 2021
    As it is I've been doing something far sadder than sycophantically watching royal coverage (or performatively moaning about the same), which, btw, is always over the top. I've been going over the candidates for my local council's election

    Greens are well organised. A couple of elections ago they had five candidates, now they have over 65. Probably still won't win anything, but well done them for putting effort in, it's more candidates than Labour are putting up.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207

    kle4 said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    Well, there are a lot of snowflakes out there. And yes, people who complain about too much coverage within hours of it starting definitely seems snowflakey to me.
    You are entitled to your opinion and you can watch as much coverage as you wish why not watch on BBC1 and BBC2 on two separate sets. BBC4 programming cancelled so the rest of us can watch a black screen

    Fill your sycophantic boots

    Me i am part of the highest number of complaints in history of man about our public broadcaster

    My daughter has just cancelled her licence fee WHAT A SNOWFLAKE!
    I can see a fine incoming......
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    edited April 2021
    Most read on the bbc news site is;

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56687578

    Time for the beeb editors to move things on, I think.

    It’s what the people want.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,676

    kle4 said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    Well, there are a lot of snowflakes out there. And yes, people who complain about too much coverage within hours of it starting definitely seems snowflakey to me.
    You are entitled to your opinion and you can watch as much coverage as you wish why not watch on BBC1 and BBC2 on two separate sets. BBC4 programming cancelled so the rest of us can watch a black screen

    Fill your sycophantic boots

    Me i am part of the highest number of complaints in history of man about our public broadcaster

    My daughter has just cancelled her licence fee WHAT A SNOWFLAKE!
    He's been dead less than 10 hours.
    No excuse for filling all BBC channels with one programme and suspending all alternative output.

    Is not as if most sycophants can watch all the channels at the same time.
    The BBC is a national broadcaster. This is a hugely significant event in our history and national story. It is being treated with the importance and respect that deserves.

    You have a case if it extends beyond 24-48 hours. For now, you don't.
    He wasn’t Kim Jong-Un he was Prince Phillip. and the Mission of the BBC is to produce programmes serving all audiences through the provision of impartial, high-quality and distinctive output and services which inform, educate and entertain.


    Failing on the ALL AUDIENCES

    Failing on DINSTINCTIVE

    Failing on ENTERTAIN

  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    kle4 said:

    As it is I've been doing something far sadder than sycophantically watching royal coverage (or performatively moaning about the same), which, btw, is always over the top. I've been going over the candidates for my local council's election

    Greens are well organised. A couple of elections ago they had five candidates, now they have over 65. Probably still won't win anything, but well done them for putting effort in, it's more candidates than Labour are putting up.

    Particularly posh round your way is it?
  • TimTTimT Posts: 6,468

    TimT said:

    America is weird.

    They were very quick (desperate?) to take the side of H&M over Megxit and heavily criticised the Royals from a proudly republican point of view - and this was merely weeks ago - BUT they seem strangely moved by Prince Phillip's death and fixated on it.

    What is it? Some schizophrenia? Strange sense of post colonial Stockholm syndrome? Resentful but also admiring of British institutions? Secretly emotionally attached to and invested in them still but can't bear to admit it?

    America and Americans are an enigma. Discuss.

    No mystery. They love Daytime Soaps
    Hmm. Inadequate answer.

    It's much deeper and more specific than that.
    Well, I will resist going into a truly deep answer, because there is no such thing as a monolithic American culture or psychology. This is a very diverse country.

    There are those who are very republican and those who are woke, and many other groups which happily jump on the H&M bandwagon to push their own political and social agendas. But then, for another part of the US population, the Brits are the only people for whom they have a respect bordering on inferiority complex. In an Improv workshop, we were told that your jokes should never punch down. So jokes about Mexicans or Irish or whatever were verboten, but jokes against the English were fine. So I joked that, if Americans making jokes about the English was not considered punching down, Americans must be socially inferior to the English. Which did not go down well.

    Multiple reactions to different events, some of which seem contradictory if you think of Americans as monolithic, are just the norm.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,921
    Charles said:

    Tres said:

    Leon said:

    It's way too soon for a thread about anything other than the late Duke. This is tasteless

    All threads for the next 8 days should focus on his life and achievements, and the steadfast service he gave to the nation. For diversity, we could have some that focus on his more lovable gaffes about "slitty eyes", so the lefties and BAMEs don't get too upset by the endless solemnity

    At least one thread a day must be simply a photo of him - in uniform, on a horse, staring down a cleavage, etc


    Come on PB, this is obvious

    Isn't Edward the new Duke now?
    No, Charles
    This is your occasional reminder that primogeniture sucks
    On the subject of primogeniture, The Queen's filly, Orderofsuccession, ran unplaced at Kempton this afternoon. As we admire the timely ironic coincidence of the name, it also suggests HMQ thinks the show must go on, even if Boris and the BBC want to stop the world for eight days.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,127
    kle4 said:

    As it is I've been doing something far sadder than sycophantically watching royal coverage (or performatively moaning about the same), which, btw, is always over the top. I've been going over the candidates for my local council's election

    Greens are well organised. A couple of elections ago they had five candidates, now they have over 65. Probably still won't win anything, but well done them for putting effort in, it's more candidates than Labour are putting up.

    The Greens standing more widely is very interesting. I think in the long run it will hurt the Libs most; but I know who it most definitely helps...
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,080
    BBC News - Nikolai Glushkov: Putin critic 'strangled in London home by third party'
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-56695489
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126

    IanB2 said:

    Basically there is no escape from the cringingly awful Gyles Brandreth for the foreseeable, short of cutting yourself off from all media.

    And this is just the rehearsal.

    I invite you to imagine what it'll be like when HM passes away...
    Oh, it's going to be a nightmare. Even as an ardent fan who will be much affected by it, I expect I, like most, will find it a bit much in the end.

    All news organisations will scramble to get films on air and obituaries online. At the Guardian, the deputy editor has a list of prepared stories pinned to his wall. The Times is said to have 11 days of coverage ready to go

    The population will slide between sadness and irritability. In 2002, 130 people complained to the BBC about its insensitive coverage of the Queen Mother’s death; another 1,500 complained that Casualty was moved to BBC2. The TV schedules in the days after the Queen’s death will change again. Comedy won’t be taken off the BBC completely, but most satire will. There will be Dad’s Army reruns, but no Have I Got News For You...

    The newsreaders will wear black suits and black ties. Category one was made for her. Programmes will stop. Networks will merge. BBC 1, 2 and 4 will be interrupted and revert silently to their respective idents – an exercise class in a village hall, a swan waiting on a pond – before coming together for the news...


    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/16/what-happens-when-queen-elizabeth-dies-london-bridge

    The bolded bit is why the protestations and complaints feel a bit formulaic - complaints about it are part of these sorts of things, as much as some posh correspondent whittering on.
  • BBC News - Nikolai Glushkov: Putin critic 'strangled in London home by third party'
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-56695489

    Oh god, it never ends.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    ping said:

    Most read on the bbc news site is;

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56687578

    Time for the beeb editors to move things on, I think.

    It’s what the people want.

    Certainly a colourful subject for biography...

    Born in Mount Vernon, New York in 1970, DMX publicly battled substance abuse for years and spent several periods in rehab.

    A father of 15, he served jail sentences on charges including animal cruelty, reckless driving, drug possession and weapons possession.

    According to his family, DMX died on Friday at White Plains Hospital in White Plains, New York.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126

    IanB2 said:

    Basically there is no escape from the cringingly awful Gyles Brandreth for the foreseeable, short of cutting yourself off from all media.

    And this is just the rehearsal.

    I invite you to imagine what it'll be like when HM passes away...
    Oh, it's going to be a nightmare. Even as an ardent fan who will be much affected by it, I expect I, like most, will find it a bit much in the end.

    All news organisations will scramble to get films on air and obituaries online. At the Guardian, the deputy editor has a list of prepared stories pinned to his wall. The Times is said to have 11 days of coverage ready to go

    The population will slide between sadness and irritability. In 2002, 130 people complained to the BBC about its insensitive coverage of the Queen Mother’s death; another 1,500 complained that Casualty was moved to BBC2. The TV schedules in the days after the Queen’s death will change again. Comedy won’t be taken off the BBC completely, but most satire will. There will be Dad’s Army reruns, but no Have I Got News For You...

    The newsreaders will wear black suits and black ties. Category one was made for her. Programmes will stop. Networks will merge. BBC 1, 2 and 4 will be interrupted and revert silently to their respective idents – an exercise class in a village hall, a swan waiting on a pond – before coming together for the news...


    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/16/what-happens-when-queen-elizabeth-dies-london-bridge

    The bolded bit is why the protestations and complaints feel a bit formulaic - complaints about it are part of these sorts of things, as much as some posh correspondent whittering on.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,994
    The despicable silence of the separatists. Speak up lads!

    https://twitter.com/britafterbrex/status/1380585122534146048?s=21

  • FossFoss Posts: 1,019
    The BBC seem to be excluding their coverage from the iPlayer archives. You can watch the current block live but the older chunks aren't available, which seems to be a somewhat odd decision.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126
    TimT said:

    America is weird.

    They were very quick (desperate?) to take the side of H&M over Megxit and heavily criticised the Royals from a proudly republican point of view - and this was merely weeks ago - BUT they seem strangely moved by Prince Phillip's death and fixated on it.

    What is it? Some schizophrenia? Strange sense of post colonial Stockholm syndrome? Resentful but also admiring of British institutions? Secretly emotionally attached to and invested in them still but can't bear to admit it?

    America and Americans are an enigma. Discuss.

    No mystery. They love Daytime Soaps
    I remember jokes when they even had plenty of coverage of the discovery of Richard III's remains.
  • TimTTimT Posts: 6,468
    Floater said:
    Scrolling down through that stream, I think I've come across my new favorite flag - the Assyrian Flag

    https://www.printa.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Assyrian-Flag.jpg
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126
    Mortimer said:

    kle4 said:

    As it is I've been doing something far sadder than sycophantically watching royal coverage (or performatively moaning about the same), which, btw, is always over the top. I've been going over the candidates for my local council's election

    Greens are well organised. A couple of elections ago they had five candidates, now they have over 65. Probably still won't win anything, but well done them for putting effort in, it's more candidates than Labour are putting up.

    The Greens standing more widely is very interesting. I think in the long run it will hurt the Libs most; but I know who it most definitely helps...
    Especially as no RefUK are standing here!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126

    kle4 said:

    As it is I've been doing something far sadder than sycophantically watching royal coverage (or performatively moaning about the same), which, btw, is always over the top. I've been going over the candidates for my local council's election

    Greens are well organised. A couple of elections ago they had five candidates, now they have over 65. Probably still won't win anything, but well done them for putting effort in, it's more candidates than Labour are putting up.

    Particularly posh round your way is it?
    Well, shire counties are what they are.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,599

    kle4 said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    Well, there are a lot of snowflakes out there. And yes, people who complain about too much coverage within hours of it starting definitely seems snowflakey to me.
    You are entitled to your opinion and you can watch as much coverage as you wish why not watch on BBC1 and BBC2 on two separate sets. BBC4 programming cancelled so the rest of us can watch a black screen

    Fill your sycophantic boots

    Me i am part of the highest number of complaints in history of man about our public broadcaster

    My daughter has just cancelled her licence fee WHAT A SNOWFLAKE!
    He's been dead less than 10 hours.
    No excuse for filling all BBC channels with one programme and suspending all alternative output.

    Is not as if most sycophants can watch all the channels at the same time.
    The BBC is a national broadcaster. This is a hugely significant event in our history and national story. It is being treated with the importance and respect that deserves.

    You have a case if it extends beyond 24-48 hours. For now, you don't.
    He wasn’t Kim Jong-Un he was Prince Phillip. and the Mission of the BBC is to produce programmes serving all audiences through the provision of impartial, high-quality and distinctive output and services which inform, educate and entertain.


    Failing on the ALL AUDIENCES

    Failing on DINSTINCTIVE

    Failing on ENTERTAIN

    Fantastic, if we can get the lefties cancelling their licence fees too...
  • TresTres Posts: 2,702
    kle4 said:

    As it is I've been doing something far sadder than sycophantically watching royal coverage (or performatively moaning about the same), which, btw, is always over the top. I've been going over the candidates for my local council's election

    Greens are well organised. A couple of elections ago they had five candidates, now they have over 65. Probably still won't win anything, but well done them for putting effort in, it's more candidates than Labour are putting up.

    I've received a quite ridiculous leaflet from Sean Bailey, full of lies and dubious assertions.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,410

    BBC News - Nikolai Glushkov: Putin critic 'strangled in London home by third party'
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-56695489

    Musing on "third party". I know it is a common saying but if he was strangled and made to look like suicide, surely it was by a second party?
    Unless there was a supervisor.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126
    Tres said:

    kle4 said:

    As it is I've been doing something far sadder than sycophantically watching royal coverage (or performatively moaning about the same), which, btw, is always over the top. I've been going over the candidates for my local council's election

    Greens are well organised. A couple of elections ago they had five candidates, now they have over 65. Probably still won't win anything, but well done them for putting effort in, it's more candidates than Labour are putting up.

    I've received a quite ridiculous leaflet from Sean Bailey, full of lies and dubious assertions.
    Those are at least more entertaining than bland nonsense - I believe Charles noted earlier some mayoral info summary, useless as they all believe in the same things.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,676

    Originally, I was taking Snowflake as a great compliment as i am unique and beautiful

    Then I read originally "A snowflake was a person who was opposed to the abolition of slavery. They were called snowflakes because it said they value white people over black people." Since the term is now being used largely by conservatives, zealous bigots, and the "alt-right" (irony is not dead)"

    I wouldn't have had KLE as a user of the term in either respect TBH

  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,770
    Tres said:

    kle4 said:

    As it is I've been doing something far sadder than sycophantically watching royal coverage (or performatively moaning about the same), which, btw, is always over the top. I've been going over the candidates for my local council's election

    Greens are well organised. A couple of elections ago they had five candidates, now they have over 65. Probably still won't win anything, but well done them for putting effort in, it's more candidates than Labour are putting up.

    I've received a quite ridiculous leaflet from Sean Bailey, full of lies and dubious assertions.
    Do share,
  • MetatronMetatron Posts: 193
    Fortunate that the sad day happened today and not tomorrow Grand National day.In my book the Grand National is the best sports event of the year and i suspect that horsing lady The Queen agrees.Recommend every PB reader does a £1 tricast on the race (picking the 1st 2nd 3rd) - they can often payout out a 5 figure sum
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,101
    edited April 2021

    kle4 said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    Well, there are a lot of snowflakes out there. And yes, people who complain about too much coverage within hours of it starting definitely seems snowflakey to me.
    You are entitled to your opinion and you can watch as much coverage as you wish why not watch on BBC1 and BBC2 on two separate sets. BBC4 programming cancelled so the rest of us can watch a black screen

    Fill your sycophantic boots

    Me i am part of the highest number of complaints in history of man about our public broadcaster

    My daughter has just cancelled her licence fee WHAT A SNOWFLAKE!
    He's been dead less than 10 hours.
    No excuse for filling all BBC channels with one programme and suspending all alternative output.

    Is not as if most sycophants can watch all the channels at the same time.
    The BBC is a national broadcaster. This is a hugely significant event in our history and national story. It is being treated with the importance and respect that deserves.

    You have a case if it extends beyond 24-48 hours. For now, you don't.
    He wasn’t Kim Jong-Un he was Prince Phillip. and the Mission of the BBC is to produce programmes serving all audiences through the provision of impartial, high-quality and distinctive output and services which inform, educate and entertain.


    Failing on the ALL AUDIENCES

    Failing on DINSTINCTIVE

    Failing on ENTERTAIN

    There was wall to wall coverage when Diana and the Queen Mother died too.

    He was the husband of the Head of State.

    Tough. If you don't like it watch Netflix or Channel 4 (once the news finishes) or 5 or another Freeview channel or Sky (ITV also doing wall to wall coverage still)
  • With the forthcoming mayoral elections I am thinking Andy Burnham is on track for by far largest majority.

    Natural Labour heartland, high profile supporter of the area.

    In comparison Liverpool is a mess of fraud.

    Brum is a marginal.

    London is a Khan win but not in the scale of Burnham.

    South & West Yorks may as well not even both with mayors/
  • TresTres Posts: 2,702
    HYUFD said:

    kle4 said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    Well, there are a lot of snowflakes out there. And yes, people who complain about too much coverage within hours of it starting definitely seems snowflakey to me.
    You are entitled to your opinion and you can watch as much coverage as you wish why not watch on BBC1 and BBC2 on two separate sets. BBC4 programming cancelled so the rest of us can watch a black screen

    Fill your sycophantic boots

    Me i am part of the highest number of complaints in history of man about our public broadcaster

    My daughter has just cancelled her licence fee WHAT A SNOWFLAKE!
    He's been dead less than 10 hours.
    No excuse for filling all BBC channels with one programme and suspending all alternative output.

    Is not as if most sycophants can watch all the channels at the same time.
    The BBC is a national broadcaster. This is a hugely significant event in our history and national story. It is being treated with the importance and respect that deserves.

    You have a case if it extends beyond 24-48 hours. For now, you don't.
    He wasn’t Kim Jong-Un he was Prince Phillip. and the Mission of the BBC is to produce programmes serving all audiences through the provision of impartial, high-quality and distinctive output and services which inform, educate and entertain.


    Failing on the ALL AUDIENCES

    Failing on DINSTINCTIVE

    Failing on ENTERTAIN

    There was wall to wall coverage when Diana and the Queen Mother died too.

    He was the husband of the Head of State.

    Tough. If you don't like it watch Netflix or Channel 4 or 5 or another Freeview channel or Sky (ITV also doing wall to wall coverage still)
    If you want to fawn over a monarch, bugger off to Thailand.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    As it is I've been doing something far sadder than sycophantically watching royal coverage (or performatively moaning about the same), which, btw, is always over the top. I've been going over the candidates for my local council's election

    Greens are well organised. A couple of elections ago they had five candidates, now they have over 65. Probably still won't win anything, but well done them for putting effort in, it's more candidates than Labour are putting up.

    Particularly posh round your way is it?
    Well, shire counties are what they are.
    Except there are rather a lot of counties. I'm kind of imagining this Green-on-Yellow action taking place in West Sussex, or possibly Oxfordshire...

    That said, we've got district and county elections taking place in my neck of the woods, and checking the details the three usual suspects are standing everywhere, but the Greens are also contesting all the available seats except for two on the county council (and in one of those cases they're only missing because they mucked up their paperwork.) So they're giving it a good go.

    If the medium term aim, backed by relatively buoyant opinion poll data, is to try to chop down the Lib Dems and replace them as the third party in England, then I would no longer count that as an unrealistic ambition - though if they can actually do it then the Tories will be thrilled.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,892
    Evening all :)

    I saw a couple of Labour canvassers in East Ham this morning - that's up there, I suppose, with bears defecating in wooded areas but while the Mayoral and GLA elections are not in doubt, the Governance Referendum in Newham may not be so straight forward. I think the move to weaken the power of Mayor Fiaz and revert to a Committee structure is gathering some momentum and this may be the nearest thing we have to a close election.

    6 runners in the East Ham Central by-election handicap for three year olds of all ages. Conservative, Labour, Green and Liberal Democrat candidates along with the Christian People's Alliance and the TUSC.

    My local cafe owner is going to put a couple of tables outside next week - I applaud his enthusiasm but al fresco dining by the Barking Road isn't quite the same as your sublime pub garden by the river - it's all about the ambience, you'd think.

    For those wanting a couple to avoid in the National tomorrow -I'm on MAGIC OF LIFE at 25s and FARCLAS at 40s (both each way).
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,101
    edited April 2021
    Tres said:

    HYUFD said:

    kle4 said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    Well, there are a lot of snowflakes out there. And yes, people who complain about too much coverage within hours of it starting definitely seems snowflakey to me.
    You are entitled to your opinion and you can watch as much coverage as you wish why not watch on BBC1 and BBC2 on two separate sets. BBC4 programming cancelled so the rest of us can watch a black screen

    Fill your sycophantic boots

    Me i am part of the highest number of complaints in history of man about our public broadcaster

    My daughter has just cancelled her licence fee WHAT A SNOWFLAKE!
    He's been dead less than 10 hours.
    No excuse for filling all BBC channels with one programme and suspending all alternative output.

    Is not as if most sycophants can watch all the channels at the same time.
    The BBC is a national broadcaster. This is a hugely significant event in our history and national story. It is being treated with the importance and respect that deserves.

    You have a case if it extends beyond 24-48 hours. For now, you don't.
    He wasn’t Kim Jong-Un he was Prince Phillip. and the Mission of the BBC is to produce programmes serving all audiences through the provision of impartial, high-quality and distinctive output and services which inform, educate and entertain.


    Failing on the ALL AUDIENCES

    Failing on DINSTINCTIVE

    Failing on ENTERTAIN

    There was wall to wall coverage when Diana and the Queen Mother died too.

    He was the husband of the Head of State.

    Tough. If you don't like it watch Netflix or Channel 4 or 5 or another Freeview channel or Sky (ITV also doing wall to wall coverage still)
    If you want to fawn over a monarch, bugger off to Thailand.
    If you don't like living in a nation with a constitutional monarch bugger off to France or the US
  • TresTres Posts: 2,702
    Omnium said:

    Tres said:

    kle4 said:

    As it is I've been doing something far sadder than sycophantically watching royal coverage (or performatively moaning about the same), which, btw, is always over the top. I've been going over the candidates for my local council's election

    Greens are well organised. A couple of elections ago they had five candidates, now they have over 65. Probably still won't win anything, but well done them for putting effort in, it's more candidates than Labour are putting up.

    I've received a quite ridiculous leaflet from Sean Bailey, full of lies and dubious assertions.
    Do share,
    Banging on about an non-existent 'outer London tax', trying to pretend it wasn't the Tory government that have been cutting police numbers, and blaming the local true blue run council tax rise on Khan.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    As it is I've been doing something far sadder than sycophantically watching royal coverage (or performatively moaning about the same), which, btw, is always over the top. I've been going over the candidates for my local council's election

    Greens are well organised. A couple of elections ago they had five candidates, now they have over 65. Probably still won't win anything, but well done them for putting effort in, it's more candidates than Labour are putting up.

    Particularly posh round your way is it?
    Well, shire counties are what they are.
    Except there are rather a lot of counties. I'm kind of imagining this Green-on-Yellow action taking place in West Sussex, or possibly Oxfordshire...
    In this case it is Wiltshire.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,206

    GP-led sites will not receive any new first-dose Covid vaccine deliveries at all over the next two weeks, NHS England has said.

    Pulse magazine.

    UK vaccine supply really has crashed.

    I wonder if we will discover there has been "stuff" going on in the background? Not until we are swimming with it in a couple of months though.

    Hang on: where is the Moderna going? It can't go for second doses, because hardly any one has it yet.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,428
    rcs1000 said:

    GP-led sites will not receive any new first-dose Covid vaccine deliveries at all over the next two weeks, NHS England has said.

    Pulse magazine.

    UK vaccine supply really has crashed.

    I wonder if we will discover there has been "stuff" going on in the background? Not until we are swimming with it in a couple of months though.

    Hang on: where is the Moderna going? It can't go for second doses, because hardly any one has it yet.
    Wales and Scotland...
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905

    With the forthcoming mayoral elections I am thinking Andy Burnham is on track for by far largest majority.

    Natural Labour heartland, high profile supporter of the area.

    In comparison Liverpool is a mess of fraud.

    Brum is a marginal.

    London is a Khan win but not in the scale of Burnham.

    South & West Yorks may as well not even both with mayors/

    Burnham ought to be returned with an Albanian-style victory. Labour currently controls 91 of 96 seats of Manchester City Council, and nine out of ten of the local authorities in Greater Manchester as a whole. Looking at the result of the previous election, I'm actually surprised that he polled as low as 64% of the vote.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,676
    One of our Election leaflets locally had the Candidates Surname spelt wrong by Regional office.

    They asked me to "proof read a final version apart from "Forename Surname" which we will correct" which i did and made several corrections to the content only for them to then print 4000 with the wrong SN of the Candidate.

    Agghhh
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,770
    Tres said:

    Omnium said:

    Tres said:

    kle4 said:

    As it is I've been doing something far sadder than sycophantically watching royal coverage (or performatively moaning about the same), which, btw, is always over the top. I've been going over the candidates for my local council's election

    Greens are well organised. A couple of elections ago they had five candidates, now they have over 65. Probably still won't win anything, but well done them for putting effort in, it's more candidates than Labour are putting up.

    I've received a quite ridiculous leaflet from Sean Bailey, full of lies and dubious assertions.
    Do share,
    Banging on about an non-existent 'outer London tax', trying to pretend it wasn't the Tory government that have been cutting police numbers, and blaming the local true blue run council tax rise on Khan.
    Could you scan it?

    I'm a Tory voter but I'm struggling to see him as a better candidate than Khan. And Khan's a bit crap.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,870
    HYUFD said:

    Tres said:

    HYUFD said:

    kle4 said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    Well, there are a lot of snowflakes out there. And yes, people who complain about too much coverage within hours of it starting definitely seems snowflakey to me.
    You are entitled to your opinion and you can watch as much coverage as you wish why not watch on BBC1 and BBC2 on two separate sets. BBC4 programming cancelled so the rest of us can watch a black screen

    Fill your sycophantic boots

    Me i am part of the highest number of complaints in history of man about our public broadcaster

    My daughter has just cancelled her licence fee WHAT A SNOWFLAKE!
    He's been dead less than 10 hours.
    No excuse for filling all BBC channels with one programme and suspending all alternative output.

    Is not as if most sycophants can watch all the channels at the same time.
    The BBC is a national broadcaster. This is a hugely significant event in our history and national story. It is being treated with the importance and respect that deserves.

    You have a case if it extends beyond 24-48 hours. For now, you don't.
    He wasn’t Kim Jong-Un he was Prince Phillip. and the Mission of the BBC is to produce programmes serving all audiences through the provision of impartial, high-quality and distinctive output and services which inform, educate and entertain.


    Failing on the ALL AUDIENCES

    Failing on DINSTINCTIVE

    Failing on ENTERTAIN

    There was wall to wall coverage when Diana and the Queen Mother died too.

    He was the husband of the Head of State.

    Tough. If you don't like it watch Netflix or Channel 4 or 5 or another Freeview channel or Sky (ITV also doing wall to wall coverage still)
    If you want to fawn over a monarch, bugger off to Thailand.
    If you don't like living in a nation with a constitutional monarch bugger off to France or the US
    MONARCHY = SOCIALISM!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126

    With the forthcoming mayoral elections I am thinking Andy Burnham is on track for by far largest majority.

    Natural Labour heartland, high profile supporter of the area.

    In comparison Liverpool is a mess of fraud.

    Brum is a marginal.

    London is a Khan win but not in the scale of Burnham.

    South & West Yorks may as well not even both with mayors/

    Burnham ought to be returned with an Albanian-style victory. Labour currently controls 91 of 96 seats of Manchester City Council, and nine out of ten of the local authorities in Greater Manchester as a whole. Looking at the result of the previous election, I'm actually surprised that he polled as low as 64% of the vote.
    91 is low for them in Manchester.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,031
    This evening's Look North was devoted to Prince Philip visiting Yorkshire over the years.

    However, it should be noted that both Amy and Abbie looked rather fetching in black.

    Yes, even regional weather presenters have to dress appropriately.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    As it is I've been doing something far sadder than sycophantically watching royal coverage (or performatively moaning about the same), which, btw, is always over the top. I've been going over the candidates for my local council's election

    Greens are well organised. A couple of elections ago they had five candidates, now they have over 65. Probably still won't win anything, but well done them for putting effort in, it's more candidates than Labour are putting up.

    Particularly posh round your way is it?
    Well, shire counties are what they are.
    Except there are rather a lot of counties. I'm kind of imagining this Green-on-Yellow action taking place in West Sussex, or possibly Oxfordshire...
    In this case it is Wiltshire.
    Ah, makes sense - you forcibly resettled all your poor people in Swindon and then fenced it off.
    rcs1000 said:

    GP-led sites will not receive any new first-dose Covid vaccine deliveries at all over the next two weeks, NHS England has said.

    Pulse magazine.

    UK vaccine supply really has crashed.

    I wonder if we will discover there has been "stuff" going on in the background? Not until we are swimming with it in a couple of months though.

    Hang on: where is the Moderna going? It can't go for second doses, because hardly any one has it yet.
    They've started in Scotland and Wales, but I seem to recall that the English have been promised we'll finally start getting it in about the third week of April. I'm currently wondering if that's what I'm getting when I have my first appointment on the 24th.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126

    This evening's Look North was devoted to Prince Philip visiting Yorkshire over the years.

    However, it should be noted that both Amy and Abbie looked rather fetching in black.

    Yes, even regional weather presenters have to dress appropriately.

    It's well known if the regional weather presenters do not wear mourning black that the kingdom shall fall, it's like the ravens at the Tower.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421
    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    As it is I've been doing something far sadder than sycophantically watching royal coverage (or performatively moaning about the same), which, btw, is always over the top. I've been going over the candidates for my local council's election

    Greens are well organised. A couple of elections ago they had five candidates, now they have over 65. Probably still won't win anything, but well done them for putting effort in, it's more candidates than Labour are putting up.

    Particularly posh round your way is it?
    Well, shire counties are what they are.
    Except there are rather a lot of counties. I'm kind of imagining this Green-on-Yellow action taking place in West Sussex, or possibly Oxfordshire...
    In this case it is Wiltshire.
    Greens are standing in every ward in Cannock. Haven’t checked further afield. No Liberal Democrats. Didn’t realise there was a district council election in my ward as well until I went to see who was standing for the county.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,870

    One of our Election leaflets locally had the Candidates Surname spelt wrong by Regional office.

    Candidate's.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,827
    edited April 2021
    rcs1000 said:

    GP-led sites will not receive any new first-dose Covid vaccine deliveries at all over the next two weeks, NHS England has said.

    Pulse magazine.

    UK vaccine supply really has crashed.

    I wonder if we will discover there has been "stuff" going on in the background? Not until we are swimming with it in a couple of months though.

    Hang on: where is the Moderna going? It can't go for second doses, because hardly any one has it yet.
    Non GP-led sites presumably. Or Wales/Scotland/NI.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421

    One of our Election leaflets locally had the Candidates Surname spelt wrong by Regional office.

    Candidate's.
    Shouldn’t there be quotation marks around that?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,870
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    I hope someone brings that topic about 'Jeff Bezos's Oracle killer' into this thread, because I wanted to say 'Oh, is it a bit temple-imental?' Like the temple where you go and see the Oracle.

    If you ever get the chance to go to Delphi, do. It is an amazing place: the local town is full of tourist tat, but that doesn't matter because you would have found the equivalent there two and a half millennia ago. The actual site is incredibly well preserved with a huge amount to see and perched on the side of a mountain with a fabulous view out over the sea (I think the Gulf of Corinth).
    Absolutely fully agreed. It's one of the most amazing vistas and locations in Europe, if not the world.

    Best visited slightly out of season, early in the morning or at dusk, too, I would say.
    The ban on travel has given me an incredible yearning for Greece. Not anywhere else. I'd love to go to Thailand or Portugal or America or Greenland or bloody Belgium, but it is Greece that haunts me. Perhaps because it is the last foreign country I visited - last September - but also....Greece.

    The simplicity. Grilled fish, white wine, blue sea, Greek salad, burning sun
    I'm always struck by patriots who can't wait to get away from these shores.

    Yes, there are some wonderful places elsewhere in the world - but Jerusalem was builded here and I'm perfectly happy in the UK at all times of year.

    The weather doesn't bother me.
    Actually i think Leon would agree with you as well - Leon just loves the world in general which is a great thing!
    Nah, I wouldn't. I can't stand Britain from New Year's Eve to late March

    It sucks. No getting round it

    The treachery is worse than we imagined!
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868
    Tres said:

    kle4 said:

    As it is I've been doing something far sadder than sycophantically watching royal coverage (or performatively moaning about the same), which, btw, is always over the top. I've been going over the candidates for my local council's election

    Greens are well organised. A couple of elections ago they had five candidates, now they have over 65. Probably still won't win anything, but well done them for putting effort in, it's more candidates than Labour are putting up.

    I've received a quite ridiculous leaflet from Sean Bailey, full of lies and dubious assertions.
    Well, it’s worked before?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,870

    I reckon Philip was a Remainer.

    (Ducks).

    "Do you still chuck straight bananas at one another?"
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868
    edited April 2021

    One of our Election leaflets locally had the Candidates Surname spelt wrong by Regional office.

    Candidate's.
    ..
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,031
    In our ward the LDs and Greens are both standing to split the anti-Tory vote and probably stop us from winning yet again.

    The Tory victory margin was smaller than the number of Green votes last time.

    Not that one more Labour councillor would make much difference on Bradford council, mind.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,892
    Looking back at yesterday's YouGov poll in London, I'm reminded of the old adage, the more things change the more they stay the same.

    In the GLA constituency poll, there's been a 2% swing to Labour since 2016 with the LDs up four. There may not be much change on these numbers but I suppose Labour might win Havering & Redbridge and have a squeak in West Central.

    The List result also has a 2% swing from Conservative to Labour with both LD and Green in double figures.

    I think Labour may be up a net one to 13 with the Conservatives on 8 and both the Greens and LDs on two.

    As for the Mayoral contest, YouGov has Khan leading Bailey 47-26 which is a 6% swing to Labour from 2016. Both the Greens and the LDs are up slightly from 2016. Khan beat Goldsmith 57-43 in the run off in 2016 and Khan now leads Bailey 66-34 which is a 9% swing.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,206
    kle4 said:

    IanB2 said:

    Basically there is no escape from the cringingly awful Gyles Brandreth for the foreseeable, short of cutting yourself off from all media.

    And this is just the rehearsal.

    I invite you to imagine what it'll be like when HM passes away...
    Oh, it's going to be a nightmare. Even as an ardent fan who will be much affected by it, I expect I, like most, will find it a bit much in the end.

    All news organisations will scramble to get films on air and obituaries online. At the Guardian, the deputy editor has a list of prepared stories pinned to his wall. The Times is said to have 11 days of coverage ready to go

    The population will slide between sadness and irritability. In 2002, 130 people complained to the BBC about its insensitive coverage of the Queen Mother’s death; another 1,500 complained that Casualty was moved to BBC2. The TV schedules in the days after the Queen’s death will change again. Comedy won’t be taken off the BBC completely, but most satire will. There will be Dad’s Army reruns, but no Have I Got News For You...

    The newsreaders will wear black suits and black ties. Category one was made for her. Programmes will stop. Networks will merge. BBC 1, 2 and 4 will be interrupted and revert silently to their respective idents – an exercise class in a village hall, a swan waiting on a pond – before coming together for the news...


    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/16/what-happens-when-queen-elizabeth-dies-london-bridge

    The bolded bit is why the protestations and complaints feel a bit formulaic - complaints about it are part of these sorts of things, as much as some posh correspondent whittering on.
    In this world of streaming TV, one has to ask what the actual impact of taking satire off the airwaves will be...
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,101

    HYUFD said:

    Tres said:

    HYUFD said:

    kle4 said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    Well, there are a lot of snowflakes out there. And yes, people who complain about too much coverage within hours of it starting definitely seems snowflakey to me.
    You are entitled to your opinion and you can watch as much coverage as you wish why not watch on BBC1 and BBC2 on two separate sets. BBC4 programming cancelled so the rest of us can watch a black screen

    Fill your sycophantic boots

    Me i am part of the highest number of complaints in history of man about our public broadcaster

    My daughter has just cancelled her licence fee WHAT A SNOWFLAKE!
    He's been dead less than 10 hours.
    No excuse for filling all BBC channels with one programme and suspending all alternative output.

    Is not as if most sycophants can watch all the channels at the same time.
    The BBC is a national broadcaster. This is a hugely significant event in our history and national story. It is being treated with the importance and respect that deserves.

    You have a case if it extends beyond 24-48 hours. For now, you don't.
    He wasn’t Kim Jong-Un he was Prince Phillip. and the Mission of the BBC is to produce programmes serving all audiences through the provision of impartial, high-quality and distinctive output and services which inform, educate and entertain.


    Failing on the ALL AUDIENCES

    Failing on DINSTINCTIVE

    Failing on ENTERTAIN

    There was wall to wall coverage when Diana and the Queen Mother died too.

    He was the husband of the Head of State.

    Tough. If you don't like it watch Netflix or Channel 4 or 5 or another Freeview channel or Sky (ITV also doing wall to wall coverage still)
    If you want to fawn over a monarch, bugger off to Thailand.
    If you don't like living in a nation with a constitutional monarch bugger off to France or the US
    MONARCHY = SOCIALISM!
    Monachy = British Conservatism.

    State control of the economy = Socialism
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,725

    kle4 said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    Well, there are a lot of snowflakes out there. And yes, people who complain about too much coverage within hours of it starting definitely seems snowflakey to me.
    You are entitled to your opinion and you can watch as much coverage as you wish why not watch on BBC1 and BBC2 on two separate sets. BBC4 programming cancelled so the rest of us can watch a black screen

    Fill your sycophantic boots

    Me i am part of the highest number of complaints in history of man about our public broadcaster

    My daughter has just cancelled her licence fee WHAT A SNOWFLAKE!
    He's been dead less than 10 hours.
    No excuse for filling all BBC channels with one programme and suspending all alternative output.

    Is not as if most sycophants can watch all the channels at the same time.
    The BBC is a national broadcaster. This is a hugely significant event in our history and national story. It is being treated with the importance and respect that deserves.

    You have a case if it extends beyond 24-48 hours. For now, you don't.
    He wasn’t Kim Jong-Un he was Prince Phillip. and the Mission of the BBC is to produce programmes serving all audiences through the provision of impartial, high-quality and distinctive output and services which inform, educate and entertain.


    Failing on the ALL AUDIENCES

    Failing on DINSTINCTIVE

    Failing on ENTERTAIN

    They now have announcers who fail.on pronunciation and can't say the or faith. The becomes ve and faith becomes faif. And those examples are just those related to announcers.
    Standards have fallen so far that its barely watchable.

    #BBC EPIC FAIL
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,870
    ydoethur said:

    One of our Election leaflets locally had the Candidates Surname spelt wrong by Regional office.

    Candidate's.
    Shouldn’t there be "quotation marks" around that?
    :lol:
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,548

    Got this as well.

    Sorry but as both a monarchist in principle and a big fan of the DoE in particular I think that is bloody funny. :)

    I suspect that the DofE would have done as well.
  • JonathanDJonathanD Posts: 2,400

    With the forthcoming mayoral elections I am thinking Andy Burnham is on track for by far largest majority.

    Natural Labour heartland, high profile supporter of the area.

    In comparison Liverpool is a mess of fraud.

    Brum is a marginal.

    London is a Khan win but not in the scale of Burnham.

    South & West Yorks may as well not even both with mayors/

    Yes. Living in Manchester, I'm not even aware there is a mayoral election coming up and certainly not who the other candidates are.

    Burnham might get the largest majority but probably on one of the smallest turnouts.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,206

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    As it is I've been doing something far sadder than sycophantically watching royal coverage (or performatively moaning about the same), which, btw, is always over the top. I've been going over the candidates for my local council's election

    Greens are well organised. A couple of elections ago they had five candidates, now they have over 65. Probably still won't win anything, but well done them for putting effort in, it's more candidates than Labour are putting up.

    Particularly posh round your way is it?
    Well, shire counties are what they are.
    Except there are rather a lot of counties. I'm kind of imagining this Green-on-Yellow action taking place in West Sussex, or possibly Oxfordshire...
    In this case it is Wiltshire.
    Ah, makes sense - you forcibly resettled all your poor people in Swindon and then fenced it off.
    rcs1000 said:

    GP-led sites will not receive any new first-dose Covid vaccine deliveries at all over the next two weeks, NHS England has said.

    Pulse magazine.

    UK vaccine supply really has crashed.

    I wonder if we will discover there has been "stuff" going on in the background? Not until we are swimming with it in a couple of months though.

    Hang on: where is the Moderna going? It can't go for second doses, because hardly any one has it yet.
    They've started in Scotland and Wales, but I seem to recall that the English have been promised we'll finally start getting it in about the third week of April. I'm currently wondering if that's what I'm getting when I have my first appointment on the 24th.
    I had Moderna. The second dose wiped me out for 24 hours, and skin rashes around the injection site are common, but that seems to be it for side effects.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,410
    Where are people finding these candidate lists?
    Google is not my friend and the County Council website search yields no results.
    Cheers.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,206

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    As it is I've been doing something far sadder than sycophantically watching royal coverage (or performatively moaning about the same), which, btw, is always over the top. I've been going over the candidates for my local council's election

    Greens are well organised. A couple of elections ago they had five candidates, now they have over 65. Probably still won't win anything, but well done them for putting effort in, it's more candidates than Labour are putting up.

    Particularly posh round your way is it?
    Well, shire counties are what they are.
    Except there are rather a lot of counties. I'm kind of imagining this Green-on-Yellow action taking place in West Sussex, or possibly Oxfordshire...
    In this case it is Wiltshire.
    Ah, makes sense - you forcibly resettled all your poor people in Swindon and then fenced it off.
    rcs1000 said:

    GP-led sites will not receive any new first-dose Covid vaccine deliveries at all over the next two weeks, NHS England has said.

    Pulse magazine.

    UK vaccine supply really has crashed.

    I wonder if we will discover there has been "stuff" going on in the background? Not until we are swimming with it in a couple of months though.

    Hang on: where is the Moderna going? It can't go for second doses, because hardly any one has it yet.
    They've started in Scotland and Wales, but I seem to recall that the English have been promised we'll finally start getting it in about the third week of April. I'm currently wondering if that's what I'm getting when I have my first appointment on the 24th.
    Also, the third week of April makes sense. The Lonza plant is expected to reach capacity (800k per day) in the second half of the month.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421
    edited April 2021
    dixiedean said:

    Where are people finding these candidate lists?
    Google is not my friend and the County Council website search yields no results.
    Cheers.

    District council website.

    In my case, https://www.cannockchasedc.gov.uk/content-z-tags/elections
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126
    dixiedean said:

    Where are people finding these candidate lists?
    Google is not my friend and the County Council website search yields no results.
    Cheers.

    All depends on how good your council is at putting up the info in convenient form. At least this time my council combined all SOPN into one doc.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,870
    rcs1000 said:

    Got this as well.

    I thought that was Priti for a second, which really confused me...
    "All brown people look the same to me!"
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    dixiedean said:

    Where are people finding these candidate lists?
    Google is not my friend and the County Council website search yields no results.
    Cheers.

    If you're in a two-tier area then try sticking the name of the district council + elections into Google and see what it brings up.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421

    ydoethur said:

    One of our Election leaflets locally had the Candidates Surname spelt wrong by Regional office.

    Candidate's.
    Shouldn’t there be "quotation marks" around that?
    :lol:
    No, because I’m not quoting.

    Honestly, PhD and can’t punctuate correctly...you’ll be getting us a bad name.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,865
    rcs1000 said:

    GP-led sites will not receive any new first-dose Covid vaccine deliveries at all over the next two weeks, NHS England has said.

    Pulse magazine.

    UK vaccine supply really has crashed.

    I wonder if we will discover there has been "stuff" going on in the background? Not until we are swimming with it in a couple of months though.

    Hang on: where is the Moderna going? It can't go for second doses, because hardly any one has it yet.
    It's just GP appointments that are being paused. Vaccine centres will continue to do first doses, mostly with Moderna.
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,263
    Working in the garden this evening I heard a single church bell tolling for the Duke - an unexpectedly moving event. In spite of being irreligious I've missed the bells this past year and that plodding funereal monotone sent a shiver down my spine.

    Far away across the field
    The tolling of the iron bell
    Calls the faithful to their knees
    To hear the softly spoken magic spell
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,870
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    One of our Election leaflets locally had the Candidates Surname spelt wrong by Regional office.

    Candidate's.
    Shouldn’t there be "quotation marks" around that?
    :lol:
    No, because I’m not quoting.

    Honestly, PhD and can’t punctuate correctly...you’ll be getting us a bad name.
    OK, I've got one:

    What's Harry and Meghan's favourite island chain?

    Archie-pelago!

    (I thank you!)
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,450
    kle4 said:

    IanB2 said:

    Basically there is no escape from the cringingly awful Gyles Brandreth for the foreseeable, short of cutting yourself off from all media.

    And this is just the rehearsal.

    I invite you to imagine what it'll be like when HM passes away...
    Oh, it's going to be a nightmare. Even as an ardent fan who will be much affected by it, I expect I, like most, will find it a bit much in the end.

    All news organisations will scramble to get films on air and obituaries online. At the Guardian, the deputy editor has a list of prepared stories pinned to his wall. The Times is said to have 11 days of coverage ready to go

    The population will slide between sadness and irritability. In 2002, 130 people complained to the BBC about its insensitive coverage of the Queen Mother’s death; another 1,500 complained that Casualty was moved to BBC2. The TV schedules in the days after the Queen’s death will change again. Comedy won’t be taken off the BBC completely, but most satire will. There will be Dad’s Army reruns, but no Have I Got News For You...

    The newsreaders will wear black suits and black ties. Category one was made for her. Programmes will stop. Networks will merge. BBC 1, 2 and 4 will be interrupted and revert silently to their respective idents – an exercise class in a village hall, a swan waiting on a pond – before coming together for the news...


    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/16/what-happens-when-queen-elizabeth-dies-london-bridge

    The bolded bit is why the protestations and complaints feel a bit formulaic - complaints about it are part of these sorts of things, as much as some posh correspondent whittering on.
    There was SFA on the radio when the old king died. Boring as hell.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421

    Working in the garden this evening I heard a single church bell tolling for the Duke - an unexpectedly moving event. In spite of being irreligious I've missed the bells this past year and that plodding funereal monotone sent a shiver down my spine.

    Far away across the field
    The tolling of the iron bell
    Calls the faithful to their knees
    To hear the softly spoken magic spell

    They tolled the one bell only,
    Groom there was none to see,
    The mourners followed after,
    And so to church went she,
    And would not wait for me.

    The bells they sound on Bredon,
    And still the steeples hum,
    "Come all to church, good people," --
    Oh, noisy bells, be dumb;
    I hear you, I will come.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,101
    edited April 2021
    ydoethur said:

    dixiedean said:

    Where are people finding these candidate lists?
    Google is not my friend and the County Council website search yields no results.
    Cheers.

    District council website.

    In my case, https://www.cannockchasedc.gov.uk/content-z-tags/elections
    All up in Epping Forest too

    https://www.eppingforestdc.gov.uk/candidates-for-the-county-council-elections/

    https://www.eppingforestdc.gov.uk/candidates-for-the-district-council-elections/
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,206
    MaxPB said:

    rcs1000 said:

    GP-led sites will not receive any new first-dose Covid vaccine deliveries at all over the next two weeks, NHS England has said.

    Pulse magazine.

    UK vaccine supply really has crashed.

    I wonder if we will discover there has been "stuff" going on in the background? Not until we are swimming with it in a couple of months though.

    Hang on: where is the Moderna going? It can't go for second doses, because hardly any one has it yet.
    It's just GP appointments that are being paused. Vaccine centres will continue to do first doses, mostly with Moderna.
    Do you know how our priorities work at Moderna? I heard that they are fulfilling Switzerland and the UK's initial 7m dose order first, and then our next 10m are going to be comingled with the EU order.

    But, of course, I learned that from a bloke on the Internet, so it could be complete rubbish.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,599

    Working in the garden this evening I heard a single church bell tolling for the Duke - an unexpectedly moving event. In spite of being irreligious I've missed the bells this past year and that plodding funereal monotone sent a shiver down my spine.

    Far away across the field
    The tolling of the iron bell
    Calls the faithful to their knees
    To hear the softly spoken magic spell

    One of the things most missed when living abroad. Church bells.

    Mosques calling the faithful to prayer are not quite the same.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,865

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    As it is I've been doing something far sadder than sycophantically watching royal coverage (or performatively moaning about the same), which, btw, is always over the top. I've been going over the candidates for my local council's election

    Greens are well organised. A couple of elections ago they had five candidates, now they have over 65. Probably still won't win anything, but well done them for putting effort in, it's more candidates than Labour are putting up.

    Particularly posh round your way is it?
    Well, shire counties are what they are.
    Except there are rather a lot of counties. I'm kind of imagining this Green-on-Yellow action taking place in West Sussex, or possibly Oxfordshire...
    In this case it is Wiltshire.
    Ah, makes sense - you forcibly resettled all your poor people in Swindon and then fenced it off.
    rcs1000 said:

    GP-led sites will not receive any new first-dose Covid vaccine deliveries at all over the next two weeks, NHS England has said.

    Pulse magazine.

    UK vaccine supply really has crashed.

    I wonder if we will discover there has been "stuff" going on in the background? Not until we are swimming with it in a couple of months though.

    Hang on: where is the Moderna going? It can't go for second doses, because hardly any one has it yet.
    They've started in Scotland and Wales, but I seem to recall that the English have been promised we'll finally start getting it in about the third week of April. I'm currently wondering if that's what I'm getting when I have my first appointment on the 24th.
    From early next week for England in small quantities and much more the following week. Don't forget that England is a bit further ahead in terms of first doses than the rest of the UK so the Moderna doses are going there becuase there is more need of first doses in Wales and Scotland.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,202
    Some good stuff doing the Whatsapp rounds tonight
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,450
    stodge said:

    Looking back at yesterday's YouGov poll in London, I'm reminded of the old adage, the more things change the more they stay the same.

    In the GLA constituency poll, there's been a 2% swing to Labour since 2016 with the LDs up four. There may not be much change on these numbers but I suppose Labour might win Havering & Redbridge and have a squeak in West Central.

    The List result also has a 2% swing from Conservative to Labour with both LD and Green in double figures.

    I think Labour may be up a net one to 13 with the Conservatives on 8 and both the Greens and LDs on two.

    As for the Mayoral contest, YouGov has Khan leading Bailey 47-26 which is a 6% swing to Labour from 2016. Both the Greens and the LDs are up slightly from 2016. Khan beat Goldsmith 57-43 in the run off in 2016 and Khan now leads Bailey 66-34 which is a 9% swing.

    Any chance of Bailey coming third? That would be fun!
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,770
    Sandpit said:

    Working in the garden this evening I heard a single church bell tolling for the Duke - an unexpectedly moving event. In spite of being irreligious I've missed the bells this past year and that plodding funereal monotone sent a shiver down my spine.

    Far away across the field
    The tolling of the iron bell
    Calls the faithful to their knees
    To hear the softly spoken magic spell

    One of the things most missed when living abroad. Church bells.

    Mosques calling the faithful to prayer are not quite the same.
    They're both rather beautiful in their way to my mind.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429

    kle4 said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    Well, there are a lot of snowflakes out there. And yes, people who complain about too much coverage within hours of it starting definitely seems snowflakey to me.
    You are entitled to your opinion and you can watch as much coverage as you wish why not watch on BBC1 and BBC2 on two separate sets. BBC4 programming cancelled so the rest of us can watch a black screen

    Fill your sycophantic boots

    Me i am part of the highest number of complaints in history of man about our public broadcaster

    My daughter has just cancelled her licence fee WHAT A SNOWFLAKE!
    He's been dead less than 10 hours.
    No excuse for filling all BBC channels with one programme and suspending all alternative output.

    Is not as if most sycophants can watch all the channels at the same time.
    The BBC is a national broadcaster. This is a hugely significant event in our history and national story. It is being treated with the importance and respect that deserves.

    You have a case if it extends beyond 24-48 hours. For now, you don't.
    He wasn’t Kim Jong-Un he was Prince Phillip. and the Mission of the BBC is to produce programmes serving all audiences through the provision of impartial, high-quality and distinctive output and services which inform, educate and entertain.


    Failing on the ALL AUDIENCES

    Failing on DINSTINCTIVE

    Failing on ENTERTAIN

    Fuck off, you smelly socialist hobgoblin. If you don't like hysterical 24/7 coverage of the TRAGIC DEATH OF A 99 YEAR OLD MAN, TAKEN BEFORE HIS TIME go and live IN ANOTHER COUNTRY
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,865
    rcs1000 said:

    MaxPB said:

    rcs1000 said:

    GP-led sites will not receive any new first-dose Covid vaccine deliveries at all over the next two weeks, NHS England has said.

    Pulse magazine.

    UK vaccine supply really has crashed.

    I wonder if we will discover there has been "stuff" going on in the background? Not until we are swimming with it in a couple of months though.

    Hang on: where is the Moderna going? It can't go for second doses, because hardly any one has it yet.
    It's just GP appointments that are being paused. Vaccine centres will continue to do first doses, mostly with Moderna.
    Do you know how our priorities work at Moderna? I heard that they are fulfilling Switzerland and the UK's initial 7m dose order first, and then our next 10m are going to be comingled with the EU order.

    But, of course, I learned that from a bloke on the Internet, so it could be complete rubbish.
    I've heard it's just going to be a constant rate of about 1.2m doses per week after the ramp up from 500k per week initially, the whole order should be fulfilled by the middle of July. I'm also informed that the government is now inquiring about purchasing a lot of Gen 2 Pfizer and Moderna doses for delivery in Q3/4 now that US production capacity is becoming available for international delivery because of expected changes by Biden to US contracts.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868
    dixiedean said:

    Where are people finding these candidate lists?
    Google is not my friend and the County Council website search yields no results.
    Cheers.

    Go to your principal council website; it is a responsibility for them to publish the statements of persons validly nominated. Look under ‘your council’ then elections, if there isn’t a link from the home page
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,676
    edited April 2021

    kle4 said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    Well, there are a lot of snowflakes out there. And yes, people who complain about too much coverage within hours of it starting definitely seems snowflakey to me.
    You are entitled to your opinion and you can watch as much coverage as you wish why not watch on BBC1 and BBC2 on two separate sets. BBC4 programming cancelled so the rest of us can watch a black screen

    Fill your sycophantic boots

    Me i am part of the highest number of complaints in history of man about our public broadcaster

    My daughter has just cancelled her licence fee WHAT A SNOWFLAKE!
    He's been dead less than 10 hours.
    No excuse for filling all BBC channels with one programme and suspending all alternative output.

    Is not as if most sycophants can watch all the channels at the same time.
    The BBC is a national broadcaster. This is a hugely significant event in our history and national story. It is being treated with the importance and respect that deserves.

    You have a case if it extends beyond 24-48 hours. For now, you don't.
    He wasn’t Kim Jong-Un he was Prince Phillip. and the Mission of the BBC is to produce programmes serving all audiences through the provision of impartial, high-quality and distinctive output and services which inform, educate and entertain.


    Failing on the ALL AUDIENCES

    Failing on DINSTINCTIVE

    Failing on ENTERTAIN

    They now have announcers who fail.on pronunciation and can't say the or faith. The becomes ve and faith becomes faif. And those examples are just those related to announcers.
    Standards have fallen so far that its barely watchable.

    #BBC EPIC FAIL
    One of their Presenters was crying earlier FFS

    Reminded me of me watching Maria come back in Sound of Music!
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,165
    edited April 2021
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Tres said:

    HYUFD said:

    kle4 said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    Well, there are a lot of snowflakes out there. And yes, people who complain about too much coverage within hours of it starting definitely seems snowflakey to me.
    You are entitled to your opinion and you can watch as much coverage as you wish why not watch on BBC1 and BBC2 on two separate sets. BBC4 programming cancelled so the rest of us can watch a black screen

    Fill your sycophantic boots

    Me i am part of the highest number of complaints in history of man about our public broadcaster

    My daughter has just cancelled her licence fee WHAT A SNOWFLAKE!
    He's been dead less than 10 hours.
    No excuse for filling all BBC channels with one programme and suspending all alternative output.

    Is not as if most sycophants can watch all the channels at the same time.
    The BBC is a national broadcaster. This is a hugely significant event in our history and national story. It is being treated with the importance and respect that deserves.

    You have a case if it extends beyond 24-48 hours. For now, you don't.
    He wasn’t Kim Jong-Un he was Prince Phillip. and the Mission of the BBC is to produce programmes serving all audiences through the provision of impartial, high-quality and distinctive output and services which inform, educate and entertain.


    Failing on the ALL AUDIENCES

    Failing on DINSTINCTIVE

    Failing on ENTERTAIN

    There was wall to wall coverage when Diana and the Queen Mother died too.

    He was the husband of the Head of State.

    Tough. If you don't like it watch Netflix or Channel 4 or 5 or another Freeview channel or Sky (ITV also doing wall to wall coverage still)
    If you want to fawn over a monarch, bugger off to Thailand.
    If you don't like living in a nation with a constitutional monarch bugger off to France or the US
    MONARCHY = SOCIALISM!
    Monachy = British Conservatism.

    State control of the economy = Socialism

    Conservative progressive-statism with a constitutional monarchy = Sweden and the Netherlands.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,822

    Working in the garden this evening I heard a single church bell tolling for the Duke - an unexpectedly moving event. In spite of being irreligious I've missed the bells this past year and that plodding funereal monotone sent a shiver down my spine.

    Far away across the field
    The tolling of the iron bell
    Calls the faithful to their knees
    To hear the softly spoken magic spell

    I know a few bellringers. Lots on my facebook feed about 'Operation Forth Bridge' - clearly the campanological response to the event has been anticipated well in advance.
    Incidentally, tolling a bell, on its own, is not hard. Tolling an exact number of strikes is trickier. Tolling an exact odd number of strikes - i. e. 99 - takes more skill still and not a little nerve.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868
    Omnium said:

    Sandpit said:

    Working in the garden this evening I heard a single church bell tolling for the Duke - an unexpectedly moving event. In spite of being irreligious I've missed the bells this past year and that plodding funereal monotone sent a shiver down my spine.

    Far away across the field
    The tolling of the iron bell
    Calls the faithful to their knees
    To hear the softly spoken magic spell

    One of the things most missed when living abroad. Church bells.

    Mosques calling the faithful to prayer are not quite the same.
    They're both rather beautiful in their way to my mind.
    Agreed.

    Although imagine if we had someone climbing up our church towers and wailing about how great god was in English through a megaphone, four times a day.
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